WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: What A Crying Shame

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Booth Podcast. The Oh Baby be Oh, what

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<v Speaker 1>a crying shame addition, as the Bengals lose on a

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<v Speaker 1>walk off field goal for the third time in the

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<v Speaker 1>first five weeks falling in Baltimore nineteen to seventeen. Coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll hear radio replays, postgame comments from players and coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>and analysis from a broadcast partner, Dave Lapham. Then, in

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<v Speaker 1>this week's fun fact segment, you'll get to know Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>tight end Mitch Wilcox. The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest thing since stat Guys, I try not to

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<v Speaker 1>bombard the listener with a bunch of numbers during the broadcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think a great stat at just the right

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<v Speaker 1>time really adds something. For example, when Justin Tucker kicked

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<v Speaker 1>a fifty eight yard field goal in the third quarter

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<v Speaker 1>to give the Ravens a three point lead, our Baltimore

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<v Speaker 1>based statistician Brett Pisell immediately handed me a piece of

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<v Speaker 1>paper pointing out that it was Tucker's seventy third consecutive

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<v Speaker 1>field goal in the second half or overtime without a miss,

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing stat. At home games, our legendary statistician Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Jarvis brad Ellis is constantly feeding us interesting info. So

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<v Speaker 1>thank you to all the great stat guys that help

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<v Speaker 1>enrich our broadcasts. All that math they took in school

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<v Speaker 1>did pay off. Now let's get to radio replays from

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday night's game in Baltimore. We pick it up about

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<v Speaker 1>ninety seconds into the second quarter with the Ravens leading three.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing will be an empty backfield four, Lamar Jackson. He

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<v Speaker 1>drops back to throw, the pocket closes. Now he throws,

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<v Speaker 1>caught by a wide open Mark Andrews, and he will

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<v Speaker 1>cruise into the end zone. Trey Flowers was nearby, but

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Andrews somehow got tremendous separation, caught the football and

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<v Speaker 1>ran it in for the eleven yard td Von Bell

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<v Speaker 1>and Trey Flowers are talking it over. How the hell

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<v Speaker 1>can you let Mark Andrews get that opened in the

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<v Speaker 1>rid zone like that? Du Vernagos in motion. They fake

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<v Speaker 1>it to him on an end around. Jackson guns it

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<v Speaker 1>down field a high throw interceptives. Von Bell, who had

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<v Speaker 1>two interceptions last week, comes away with another interception tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Two receivers left, one out to the right. Burrow drops

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<v Speaker 1>back to throw, bouncing in the pocket, chucks in the middle,

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<v Speaker 1>caught at the five by Hayden Hurst, driving twy MD

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<v Speaker 1>zone extends a ball gtober touchdown. Bengals a nineteen yard

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<v Speaker 1>strike Joe Burrow to Hayden Hurst, who comes back to

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore and catches a touchdown pass. This is a forty

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<v Speaker 1>yard attempt from the left hash out of the hold

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<v Speaker 1>of Kevin Hubert. Rookie cow Adam Midas will snap it

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<v Speaker 1>back to snap the catch to put down. The kick

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<v Speaker 1>is up, It looks perfect and it is right down

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<v Speaker 1>the middle to tie the game at ten. With four

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<v Speaker 1>seconds left and the half. Burrows under center, turns left,

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<v Speaker 1>fakes to mix and sets up to throw fires middle.

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<v Speaker 1>Intercepted by Patrick Queen, his former college teammate and he

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<v Speaker 1>runs into the Cincinnati forty seven where he gets tackled.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to be a fifty eight yard attempt.

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<v Speaker 1>Stout is the holder, the ball is down, the kick

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<v Speaker 1>is up, it has the distance, and it is good.

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<v Speaker 1>G o at greatest of all time. Yep. And I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what Stout did, what everybody was thinking. Just

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<v Speaker 1>bout to him, just bowed down to his greatness. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals lining up to go for it on fourth and

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<v Speaker 1>goal from the two, they trailed by three, empty backfield

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<v Speaker 1>for Joe Burrow. He catches the shotgun, snap, rolls left,

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<v Speaker 1>shovel pass incomplete. Now they just shoveled it right into

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the Baltimore Ravens defense and they were

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<v Speaker 1>ready for it there, man, that was That was a

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<v Speaker 1>tough sequence. Didn't even try to run the football first

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<v Speaker 1>and goal for two yard line, never tried a run play.

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<v Speaker 1>One snap from twenty five yards away, Tuckers kick his up.

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<v Speaker 1>It is good and Baltimore leads by six with ninety

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<v Speaker 1>two to go. Burrow under center, mixing behind him, Mitch

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<v Speaker 1>Wilcox goes in motion. Burrow runs a quarterback sneak. Wilcox

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<v Speaker 1>pushes from behind. Here come the officials charging in. No

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<v Speaker 1>signal yet, yere it is touch down night, Bengals. Burrows

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<v Speaker 1>spikes the ball in the back of the end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals have tied it and can take the lead

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<v Speaker 1>on an extra point. With one fifty three to go,

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Tucker will try to win the game straight away.

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<v Speaker 1>The ball's right in the middle of the field, a

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<v Speaker 1>forty three yard try. He normally makes these in his sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see to win the game. With three seconds to go,

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<v Speaker 1>Tucker is ready to snap to put down the kick.

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore wins absolutely perfect by Justin Tucker. The Bengals score

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown with one fifty eight to go, but Lamar

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson answers, driving the ball to the Cincinnati twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>and setting up a forty three yard game winning field

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<v Speaker 1>goal for the best to ever do it, Justin Tucker.

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<v Speaker 1>The Ravens are alone in first place. They have ended

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<v Speaker 1>their five game home losing stream, and they have defeated

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals tonight by the final score of nineteen to seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to the key sequence in the game that

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<v Speaker 1>everybody is going to be talking about. Trailing by three

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<v Speaker 1>with about three minutes to go in the third quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals passed up an easy field goal that would

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<v Speaker 1>have tied the game and went for it on fourth

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<v Speaker 1>and goal from the two, a shovel pass to Stanley

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<v Speaker 1>Morgan failed. Here are Joe Burrow and Zach Taylor on

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<v Speaker 1>the decision to go for it. Yeah, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>have too right there. You know, if you get seven

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<v Speaker 1>points and really changes the game, So I think you

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<v Speaker 1>have too. We felt good from the two. Maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>any further we would have just kicking it there, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we felt comfortable with what we had called there.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously didn't work out. So and I'm not gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>in hindsight you do it differently. Obviously we see that

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<v Speaker 1>that point didn't work, and so you'd run a different play.

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<v Speaker 1>But the way that we managed the situation, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>we'd go up seventeen to thirteen right there. Then our

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<v Speaker 1>defense is playing really good keeping them out of the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone aside from the one that they had, and

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<v Speaker 1>we found a way to go win. Then there are

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<v Speaker 1>the play calls on first and goal from the two,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals through an incomplete pass for Hayden Hurst. On

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<v Speaker 1>second down, they tried the Philly special where Tyler Boyd

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<v Speaker 1>took a pitch on a reverse and was going to

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<v Speaker 1>throw the ball to Joe Burrow but got tackled for

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<v Speaker 1>a twelve yard loss. A pass to Jamar Chase got

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<v Speaker 1>those twelve yards back before the failed shovel pass on

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<v Speaker 1>fourth down ended the drive. So why no running plays

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<v Speaker 1>from the two yard line? It's a tough front. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's it's a really tough structure of the front.

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<v Speaker 1>So we felt good about some of the stuff we

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<v Speaker 1>obviously didn't work. We took a sack on a specialty

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<v Speaker 1>play and then just didn't quite get out how we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to on the shovel there on the fourth town play.

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<v Speaker 1>But I felt comfortable with our package going in to

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<v Speaker 1>just hopesuly. When it doesn't work, it's you wish you

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<v Speaker 1>were to done something dif Admittedly, hindsight is twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>but Joe Mixon carried fourteen times for seventy eight yards.

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<v Speaker 1>That's five point six yards per carry. He was asked

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<v Speaker 1>after the game about not getting the ball that close

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<v Speaker 1>to the goal line. I mean, whatever, it's cart, that's

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<v Speaker 1>on him. I mean, I'm just playing the cars as dolt,

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<v Speaker 1>doing my job, and everybody else is, you know, come

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<v Speaker 1>through to execute. Did you think your success today we'll

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<v Speaker 1>kind of help prove them that you guys should try

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<v Speaker 1>test those fronts a little more. Maybe, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like I said, our players, we're doing everything

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<v Speaker 1>and playing auto cars as dolt to us, and we

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<v Speaker 1>just gotta keep on digging in getting better, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hopefully get better and delivered the good news. The

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<v Speaker 1>running game was better. The Bengals ran for one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and one yards and averaged four point eight yards per carry.

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<v Speaker 1>The bad news is that Cincinnati is two in three.

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<v Speaker 1>Here are final thoughts from Zach Taylor, Joe Burrow, and

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon. It's just frustrating to lose. Um, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter how it shakes out. You know, there's games that

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<v Speaker 1>the offense may score a lot of points and we

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<v Speaker 1>need to pick the defense up and vice versa. And

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<v Speaker 1>um again, we knew this is a tough team. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a tough environment. It's gonna be a tough, tough test.

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<v Speaker 1>Come in here and get a win. We were close,

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<v Speaker 1>but but not close enough. And and we just have

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<v Speaker 1>to learn from the things that each guy can do

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit better, that I can do better, and

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<v Speaker 1>and be able to rebound next week. Tough loss, it's frustrating,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh, there's still a lot of football to be played,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're not We're not going to panic. Obviously, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to tune. The division is not ideal, but like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, a lot of football to be played. Still

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<v Speaker 1>going on a running here before the buy and still

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<v Speaker 1>got everything in front of us. Man, it's the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to win up here. And um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a hell of a team that we play, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're a hell of a team as well. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get better. We just got to keep on building, coming

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<v Speaker 1>to work and having an attitude that we got to

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<v Speaker 1>attack the week, get better and you know, keep on playing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a long season. We got everything that we want

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of us. We let one slip tonight, but who's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna keep on building getting better? Looking back, the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>lost to the Steelers by missing an extra point at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of regulation, had a field goal and overtime.

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<v Speaker 1>They rallied to tie the Cowboys in the fourth quarter

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<v Speaker 1>and got the ball with two thirteen to go, but

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<v Speaker 1>the offense went three and out and Dallas beat them

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<v Speaker 1>with a fifty yard field goal. Now a similar heartbreaker

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<v Speaker 1>in Baltimore. I talked to Jesse Bates about it after

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<v Speaker 1>the game. I'm sure it's got to be frustrating. All

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<v Speaker 1>three losses have been on a game ending field goal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about as close as it can possibly be, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just how this league is. You know, the margin

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<v Speaker 1>of air is really small. Usually these games come down to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the last second, situational a type of plays,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, we're just on another side of tonight

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<v Speaker 1>on the final drive. Knowing that they have Justin Tucker.

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<v Speaker 1>His range is now literally the greatest in NFL history.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that impact how you try to defend that? Yeah? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we had a conversation before we went on

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<v Speaker 1>the field that all they needed was twenty to thirty yards, um,

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<v Speaker 1>due to the kicker that they had, So um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they got more than thirty yards. So something that we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta uh you know, discussed as a defense. Uh. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of times, you know, these two losses two

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<v Speaker 1>or the three losses, I think UM has came down to, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the defense being on the field last second.

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<v Speaker 1>So we gotta find a way to just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get off the field. UM. You know, I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's tough. It's hard in this league with these you know,

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<v Speaker 1>great athletes. You know, you got Lamar who, um who

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<v Speaker 1>kept the ball a couple of times, so it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hard to do that. Um, you know when you

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<v Speaker 1>got to cover on the back end as well. So,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, it's we're doing a lot of good things. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately our records two and three, we got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of football to play. Um, there's a lot of still

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of belief in this locker room. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>describe how difficult it is to tackle Lamar? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you've got him sized up, the fundamentals are good, and

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<v Speaker 1>he just wiggles and slip and slippery and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>hard to get him down. Yeah. I think we did

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<v Speaker 1>a really good job with you know, keeping them bottled

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<v Speaker 1>in UM compared to other years. But yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he's you know, one of the you know, the best

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<v Speaker 1>athletes that this NFL league has ever seen. And for

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<v Speaker 1>him to be the quarterback and be able to touch

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<v Speaker 1>the ball every single play, I think, um just I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he can't can't do much about it sometimes. But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said early in the season, um excited for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the twelve ten weeks, whatever we got left. We

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<v Speaker 1>will take it one week at a time. And um

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<v Speaker 1>get this thame rolling. No, you guys have put a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of attention on Mark Andrews and he was able

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<v Speaker 1>to get open on that the one touchdown catch. Just

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<v Speaker 1>a good player making a play or a little miscommunication

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<v Speaker 1>there or what happened, you know, think of a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of miscommunication a little bit on third Now. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a good player. You know. We can't can't leave

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best players wide open in that type

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<v Speaker 1>of situation. But other than that, like I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we settled down and I think we've given up

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<v Speaker 1>three touchdowns down on the season. So we got to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to do that, continue to limit on the ears.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate your time, Thank you jesting us so appreciate. Before

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<v Speaker 1>for the radio guys recap lap. The Bengals are two

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<v Speaker 1>and three, all three losses on field goals at the

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<v Speaker 1>gun Chris Boswell fifty three yards in the first loss,

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<v Speaker 1>bred Maher fifty yards and the second loss Justin Tucker

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<v Speaker 1>forty three yards in this loss. Those games, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>like instant replay, slow start, fight back, wind up, alazing, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean slow start is you know, the real big

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<v Speaker 1>common denominator, you know in my mind, although you know

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<v Speaker 1>in this one it boiled down to you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>the fifteen play, seventy three yard drive, eight minutes plus

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<v Speaker 1>off the clock and get no points. I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>was crushing. And you know, first and goal to two

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<v Speaker 1>yard line, you gotta you gotta figure out a way

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<v Speaker 1>to score a touchdown. And that because there weren't many

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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns being scored, each team was deficient in that regard obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>So when you had a chance to get one, you

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<v Speaker 1>had to get it, and they didn't. First and goal

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<v Speaker 1>from the two, first pass incomplete, first play, incomplete pass

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<v Speaker 1>for Hayden Hurst, Philly Special loses thirteen. They get thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>back back on a pass to Jamar Chase, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the shovel passed to Stanley Morgan doesn't work. You made

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<v Speaker 1>it clear on the broadcast you would have liked to

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<v Speaker 1>have seen at least a run during that sequence. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have loved to have seen them just get

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<v Speaker 1>up under center and run the football. On the game,

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<v Speaker 1>they average four point to carry on twenty one attempts.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon average five point six. P Ryan average five

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<v Speaker 1>point seven. I mean, between the two of them, they

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<v Speaker 1>had seventeen rushes for ninety five yards. I would have

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<v Speaker 1>liked to have seen at least one time handed off

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<v Speaker 1>to one of them, see if you can smash it

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<v Speaker 1>in there from the two yard lines some way, shape

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<v Speaker 1>or form. But you know, the Philly Special Baltimore was

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<v Speaker 1>all over that they weren't fooled whatsoever by that one,

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<v Speaker 1>And in hindsight, if it could have been just thrown

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<v Speaker 1>away and saved those yards that would that would have

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<v Speaker 1>worked out well as well. But that's life in this division,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no doubt. And the number of possessions was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of kind of intriguing too. I mean, in the second half,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals had three possessions in the second half in

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore had four. I mean, you know, you were going

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<v Speaker 1>on long drive after long drive. The Bengals had a

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen and a thirteen play drive. The Ravens had a

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen play drive themselves, and then a seven play forty

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<v Speaker 1>five yard drive for the field goal. Once teams got

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<v Speaker 1>the ball in the second half, they weren't giving it up.

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<v Speaker 1>It was crazy. What changed in the running game? Why

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<v Speaker 1>did it work so much better after the first four series.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, just going north and south a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more gap blocking, looks, pulling lineman for traps

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<v Speaker 1>and that sort of thing instead of right right now,

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<v Speaker 1>the stretch running games not not operating in a very

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<v Speaker 1>good efficiency. So you know, make the adjustment and you

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<v Speaker 1>go to gap blocking, and you know, pin and pull

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to try to get to the outside

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<v Speaker 1>instead of stretch. And I think with Pete, Ron and

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<v Speaker 1>Nixon are shown that they're you know, they're pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>squaring their pads up and shoulder pads up and going

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<v Speaker 1>north and south a little bit. Defense held Baltimore to

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen points at home. You can't ask for really anything

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<v Speaker 1>more than that, Ken you I mean, I don't. I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they played decent football from start to finish.

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<v Speaker 1>I really did, you know. I mean, that's Baltimore's lower

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<v Speaker 1>scoring game of the season, and it's here at home.

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<v Speaker 1>But just obviously, you know, when the only tally seventeen, yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not it's not quite good enough. Too bad it

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<v Speaker 1>came down, but it just could have been one more

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<v Speaker 1>playmate on that last drive, you know, to put put

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<v Speaker 1>iceing on the cake and come come out of it

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<v Speaker 1>with a one point victory. It would have been great,

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<v Speaker 1>but not meant to be. Jesse Bates expressed frustration over

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he feels two times now the defense

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<v Speaker 1>had the chance to close out a game Dallas and

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<v Speaker 1>this game and couldn't get it done. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that that's the sign of a guy that's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to point fingers and blame anybody but himself.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, in the in the side of the football

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<v Speaker 1>that he plays on it and that's you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's Jesse Bates. That's a class act, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>every sense of the word. Um. But in games like this,

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<v Speaker 1>you can you can point to so many things that

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<v Speaker 1>did come down to that. And you did have a

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<v Speaker 1>lead and I couldn't couldn't hold on to it, but

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<v Speaker 1>boy could have had a lot bigger lead. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>question about that. They're back to being a game out

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<v Speaker 1>of first place in the FC North. I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>good news is Baltimore is the only team with a

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<v Speaker 1>winning record right now. Yeah, I mean, and obviously you've

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<v Speaker 1>shown that you can you can certainly play with them.

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<v Speaker 1>The tough thing is though you're owing two in the

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<v Speaker 1>division with a two and three mark, that's not that's

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<v Speaker 1>not an ideal situation because that becomes a very significant

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<v Speaker 1>tiebreaker if it comes down to that. So you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get that. You want to get a division win

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<v Speaker 1>as quickly as you possibly can. At this point, that's

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<v Speaker 1>some sleep you do the same. Bengals head to New

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<v Speaker 1>Orleans to face the two and three Saints on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton has started the saints last two games at quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>while Jamis Winston deals with a sore back. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>time for this week's fun Facts interview, where you get

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<v Speaker 1>to know the person under the pads. Time for some

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<v Speaker 1>fun facts at Bengals tight End. Mitch Wilcox from Tarpan Springs, Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>not far from Tampa. So you're born and raised in

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<v Speaker 1>the Sunshine State. But are you really an Ohio State

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<v Speaker 1>fan or were you an Ohio State fan growing up?

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<v Speaker 1>Growing up? I was, Yeah, my dad went to Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, my whole family is from Ohio originally,

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<v Speaker 1>so I grew up being a Buckeye. But my mom

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<v Speaker 1>went to Florida State, so you know, Florida sports and

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<v Speaker 1>rooting for them too. But I was brainwashed up guy,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. So I'm sure while you were playing at USF,

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<v Speaker 1>your dad rooted for the Bulls, But now that you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, he's he gone back to being a

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<v Speaker 1>Buckeyes guy. Yeah, yeah, I mean he's still roots for

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<v Speaker 1>the Bulls, but you know his heart lies with Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Mitch Wilcox. You attended Tarpan Springs High School,

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<v Speaker 1>which has one of the most unusual team nicknames I

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<v Speaker 1>have ever heard, the Spongers. The Spongers explain the Spongers.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tarpan Springs has a very um, a huge Greek population,

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<v Speaker 1>and the spongers are the sponge divers that die for

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<v Speaker 1>the sponges, you know, and they've they've made a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a touristy, you know, attraction to go see that. And

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<v Speaker 1>at one point, I think it was the sponge capital

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<v Speaker 1>of the world. So that kind of just morphed into

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<v Speaker 1>the Spongers, and you know, at one point it got

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<v Speaker 1>like voted best mascot or something a while back. But

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<v Speaker 1>so people will call us the sponges. It's not quite

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<v Speaker 1>the Sponges the spongers. So I'll get it right. The

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<v Speaker 1>Spongers is the mascot, a giant sponge. The sponge divers.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a dive helmet and a spear gun. So

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<v Speaker 1>there we go. All right, we're doing fun facts with

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch Wilcox. I read that when you were young, you

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<v Speaker 1>slept with a basketball Is that literally the case? I

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<v Speaker 1>literally slept with a football and a basketball. I had

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<v Speaker 1>like one in each arm, you know, just in case

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<v Speaker 1>a pickup game or a game broke out. So worked

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<v Speaker 1>out well for you. As I mentioned, you went to USF,

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<v Speaker 1>the University of South Florida, which is there in Tampa.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you want to stay close to home? Was that

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<v Speaker 1>the key? Yeah? I think the the goal from early

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<v Speaker 1>on was to stay close to home so my family

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<v Speaker 1>and friends could come see me play. And the goal

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<v Speaker 1>was to play early and often as well. USF was

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<v Speaker 1>really good while you were there, and you set all

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<v Speaker 1>of the tight end records, hundred catches in your career,

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<v Speaker 1>eleven touchdown catches too, against the University of Cincinnati. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw those. What was the highlight of your USF experience

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<v Speaker 1>on and off the field, I would say, just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>writing our own history as a team, you know, first

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<v Speaker 1>first double digit wins in school history ever, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and just some of the connections that I've made with

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<v Speaker 1>those players and coaches and just the games and the

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<v Speaker 1>runs we went on was just it was great. Am

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<v Speaker 1>I imagining things to to recall that you always seem

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<v Speaker 1>to have a great game against UC. I mean, that

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<v Speaker 1>was that was That was the goal. It always have

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<v Speaker 1>a great game, but it seemed like, you know, my

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<v Speaker 1>number was called UC games and there was some good

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<v Speaker 1>battles against them every time we're doing fun facts with

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch Wilcox. So you finished this great career, You're one

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<v Speaker 1>of the top tight ends in your class. You go

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<v Speaker 1>to the combine and unfortunately, a terrible accident happened at

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<v Speaker 1>the combine. There was kind of a confusion and a

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<v Speaker 1>passing drill. You got hit in the eye, rough a

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<v Speaker 1>blood vessel in your eye. How difficult was that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my draft process was not not good at all. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that was that was a tough day. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>major setback. I didn't feel like I put my best

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<v Speaker 1>foot forward at all. I didn't run well either, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know him a lot faster than what I ran

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<v Speaker 1>before that happened. And then that happened, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>basically doing the entire rest of the combine with one

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<v Speaker 1>eye and concust So, Um, that did not help me

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<v Speaker 1>at all and major setback. But you know, things work

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<v Speaker 1>out for the for the best, and people who make

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<v Speaker 1>the best out of what happens to them. You had

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<v Speaker 1>a great high school in college career? Was that the

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<v Speaker 1>first time that you ever dealt with a major setback

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<v Speaker 1>like that? You know? Unfortunately, I have had a few

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<v Speaker 1>setbacks over my entire career, and um, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>something that's something that's I've I've faced before. Um so

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<v Speaker 1>I feel as though I was a little bit equipped

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<v Speaker 1>to handle it. But still for a moment like that

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<v Speaker 1>on you know, a national stage with everyone watching, it

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<v Speaker 1>was just, you know, absolute worst scenario. But I told

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<v Speaker 1>myself I was gonna, you know, pick myself back up

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<v Speaker 1>and just keep grunning. And and I knew that I

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<v Speaker 1>knew what I was capable of. And I always have

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<v Speaker 1>known what I'm capable of, and that's I think I

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<v Speaker 1>could play ball at a high level. We're chatting with

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch Wilcox. So you didn't get drafted, but a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of teams were interested in signing you after the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>and you wound up signing with Cincinnati. Why the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>best opportunity for sure, you know, roots in Ohio and

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<v Speaker 1>best opportunity at hand, and so jumped on it right away.

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<v Speaker 1>Any family still in Ohio. We have extended family here

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, and then a bunch of family friends

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<v Speaker 1>still and so a lot of family comes up for

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<v Speaker 1>the games. So you spent your first year a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago on the practice squad, and then last

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<v Speaker 1>year you wound up playing a significant role, particularly on

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<v Speaker 1>special teams, on a Super Bowl team. Describe your Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl experience being out on the field, running out of

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<v Speaker 1>the tunnel in the biggest sporting event of them all.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it was absolutely surreal. Um. I think some

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<v Speaker 1>of our teammates and you know, still pinching themselves. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that we really did that last year and we

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<v Speaker 1>really were we really were there. But um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a moment I'll never forget. And but even even

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<v Speaker 1>that us losing puts even that much more fuel to

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<v Speaker 1>the fire for us to get back there and win it. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>we we are focused on that. Who did you have

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<v Speaker 1>in the stands? It's so far. I had ten of

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<v Speaker 1>my family members there and it was you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a great group and UM was so thankful that

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<v Speaker 1>I was able to share that moment with them. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, something I'll never forget. All Right, some wild

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<v Speaker 1>card topics for the former sponger Mitchell Wilcox, who's your

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<v Speaker 1>all time favorite athlete? In any sport, and why not

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<v Speaker 1>just because I have Ohio roots. But I've always loved Lebron.

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<v Speaker 1>He's always been my favorite player just because her favorite athlete,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's just so dominant. He's been so dominant, and

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<v Speaker 1>just the way he plays a game with his fire,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, just physicalness in any sport. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you can appreciate when someone's just how physically physical lying

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<v Speaker 1>someone you know? So, have you seen him in person?

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen him play a couple of times, but not

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<v Speaker 1>not too up close. But yeah, do you have any

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<v Speaker 1>hidden talents? Hidden talents? I'd like to say I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good at ping pong, but other than that, not so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what you're If you are good in

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<v Speaker 1>ping pong, it will certainly be shown in this locker

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<v Speaker 1>room or two tables now and some really high level

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<v Speaker 1>games going on. Yeah. Yeah, we get after it when

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<v Speaker 1>we're standing like five or six feet back, just straight

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<v Speaker 1>spiking it so it gets heated in there. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So good at ping pong. On the other side of things,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you terrible at? Terrible? Probably card games? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I always forget, like just simple card games, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like bad at it and I'm showing my hand

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<v Speaker 1>or something or my you know, I just forget the rules,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I feel like that's something I never really

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<v Speaker 1>bought into. All right, don't play for big money. That's

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<v Speaker 1>my advice there. What do you like to spend your

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<v Speaker 1>money on? Probably food. I'm kind of a foodie, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I do actually do cook a lot. Myself kind of

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<v Speaker 1>developed that a little bit, but I'm definitely a foodie

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<v Speaker 1>and like to go out to some good dinners here

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<v Speaker 1>and there. If you're trying to impress somebody what your

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<v Speaker 1>go to dish, probably just cook them a fantastic steak.

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<v Speaker 1>I know how to do it a couple of different ways,

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<v Speaker 1>so probably probably a great steak. Can't go wrong there.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Final question, This one's kind of deep. If

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<v Speaker 1>you could meet anybody in history, athlete, actor, politician, statesman,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever it might be, who would that person be, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a tough one. If I could go back, I

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<v Speaker 1>probably talked to Kobe and just pick his brain about

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<v Speaker 1>just his mentality. Have like a one on one conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with Kobe and just pick his brain about what was

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<v Speaker 1>his thoughts during this time? Or you know, how did

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<v Speaker 1>you approach a setback and what was his mamba mentality

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<v Speaker 1>towards things? That is an excellent answer. You're off the

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<v Speaker 1>hot seat. I appreciate your time. Best of luck this week.

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