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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The Oh Baby be Oh, what

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Speaker 1: a crying shame addition, as the Bengals lose on a

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Speaker 1: first five weeks falling in Baltimore nineteen to seventeen. Coming up,

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Speaker 1: you'll hear radio replays, postgame comments from players and coaches,

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Speaker 1: and analysis from a broadcast partner, Dave Lapham. Then, in

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Speaker 1: this week's fun fact segment, you'll get to know Bengals

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Speaker 1: a fifty eight yard field goal in the third quarter

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Speaker 1: to give the Ravens a three point lead, our Baltimore

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Speaker 1: based statistician Brett Pisell immediately handed me a piece of

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Speaker 1: paper pointing out that it was Tucker's seventy third consecutive

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Speaker 1: enrich our broadcasts. All that math they took in school

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Speaker 1: did pay off. Now let's get to radio replays from

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Speaker 1: Sunday night's game in Baltimore. We pick it up about

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Speaker 1: ninety seconds into the second quarter with the Ravens leading three.

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Speaker 1: Nothing will be an empty backfield four, Lamar Jackson. He

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Speaker 1: it to him on an end around. Jackson guns it

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Speaker 1: Two receivers left, one out to the right. Burrow drops

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Speaker 1: strike Joe Burrow to Hayden Hurst, who comes back to

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Speaker 1: of Kevin Hubert. Rookie cow Adam Midas will snap it

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Speaker 1: The Ravens are alone in first place. They have ended

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Speaker 1: their five game home losing stream, and they have defeated

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Speaker 1: the Bengals tonight by the final score of nineteen to seventeen.

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Speaker 1: let's get to the key sequence in the game that

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Speaker 1: Here are final thoughts from Zach Taylor, Joe Burrow, and

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Speaker 1: His range is now literally the greatest in NFL history.

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Speaker 1: the best out of what happens to them. You had

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Speaker 1: a great high school in college career? Was that the

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Speaker 1: first time that you ever dealt with a major setback

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Speaker 1: like that? You know? Unfortunately, I have had a few

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Speaker 1: and just keep grunning. And and I knew that I

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Speaker 1: known what I'm capable of, and that's I think I

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Speaker 1: could play ball at a high level. We're chatting with

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Speaker 1: Mitch Wilcox. So you didn't get drafted, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of teams were interested in signing you after the draft,

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Speaker 1: and you wound up signing with Cincinnati. Why the Bengals

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Speaker 1: best opportunity for sure, you know, roots in Ohio and

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Speaker 1: Any family still in Ohio. We have extended family here

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Speaker 1: still and so a lot of family comes up for

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Speaker 1: the games. So you spent your first year a couple

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Speaker 1: year you wound up playing a significant role, particularly on

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Speaker 1: special teams, on a Super Bowl team. Describe your Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl experience being out on the field, running out of

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Speaker 1: You know, it was absolutely surreal. Um. I think some

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Speaker 1: of our teammates and you know, still pinching themselves. You

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Speaker 1: know that we really did that last year and we

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Speaker 1: really were we really were there. But um, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a moment I'll never forget. And but even even

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Speaker 1: that us losing puts even that much more fuel to

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Speaker 1: the fire for us to get back there and win it. So, um,

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Speaker 1: we we are focused on that. Who did you have

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Speaker 1: my family members there and it was you know, it

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Speaker 1: I was able to share that moment with them. And

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Speaker 1: you know, something I'll never forget. All Right, some wild

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Speaker 1: card topics for the former sponger Mitchell Wilcox, who's your

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Speaker 1: all time favorite athlete? In any sport, and why not

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Speaker 1: just because I have Ohio roots. But I've always loved Lebron.

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Speaker 1: He's always been my favorite player just because her favorite athlete,

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Speaker 1: because he's just so dominant. He's been so dominant, and

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Speaker 1: just the way he plays a game with his fire,

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Speaker 1: and you know, just physicalness in any sport. I think

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Speaker 1: you can appreciate when someone's just how physically physical lying

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Speaker 1: someone you know? So, have you seen him in person?

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Speaker 1: I've seen him play a couple of times, but not

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Speaker 1: not too up close. But yeah, do you have any

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Speaker 1: hidden talents? Hidden talents? I'd like to say I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: good at ping pong, but other than that, not so much.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you're If you are good in

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Speaker 1: ping pong, it will certainly be shown in this locker

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Speaker 1: games going on. Yeah. Yeah, we get after it when

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Speaker 1: we're standing like five or six feet back, just straight

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Speaker 1: spiking it so it gets heated in there. All right,

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Speaker 1: So good at ping pong. On the other side of things,

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Speaker 1: what are you terrible at? Terrible? Probably card games? You know,

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Speaker 1: I always forget, like just simple card games, and I'm

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Speaker 1: you know. I feel like that's something I never really

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Speaker 1: bought into. All right, don't play for big money. That's

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Speaker 1: my advice there. What do you like to spend your

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Speaker 1: money on? Probably food. I'm kind of a foodie, you know.

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Speaker 1: I do actually do cook a lot. Myself kind of

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Speaker 1: and like to go out to some good dinners here

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Speaker 1: and there. If you're trying to impress somebody what your

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Speaker 1: go to dish, probably just cook them a fantastic steak.

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Speaker 1: I know how to do it a couple of different ways,

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Speaker 1: All right. Final question, This one's kind of deep. If

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Speaker 1: whoever it might be, who would that person be, Man,

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Speaker 1: that's a tough one. If I could go back, I

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Speaker 1: probably talked to Kobe and just pick his brain about

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Speaker 1: just his mentality. Have like a one on one conversation

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Speaker 1: with Kobe and just pick his brain about what was

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Speaker 1: his thoughts during this time? Or you know, how did

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Speaker 1: you approach a setback and what was his mamba mentality

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Speaker 1: towards things? That is an excellent answer. You're off the

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Speaker 1: hot seat. I appreciate your time. Best of luck this week.

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