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Speaker 1: Welcome in our number two Klay Travis buck Sexton show.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of you reacting. We're going to

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Speaker 1: get to some of those eight hundred and two A

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Speaker 1: we'll try to take a couple of your calls.

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Speaker 2: No guest today.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we did mention we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: to Jim Jordan tomorrow about explosive information that he has

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Speaker 1: uncovered which suggests that the COVID shot, which we now

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Speaker 1: know is a lemon and basically worthless, but that top

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Speaker 1: executives worked to keep news about the what they thought

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Speaker 1: was the success of the COVID shot from going public

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Speaker 1: before the twenty twenty election, which Trump has said publicly

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Speaker 1: he believed happened, which may well have swung the election

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Speaker 1: by itself because the race came down to forty thousand

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Speaker 1: votes in Wisconsin, at Georgia and Arizona.

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Speaker 2: So who knows.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you had thought, hey, there's going to

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Speaker 1: be a vaccine coming, would people have been more likely

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Speaker 1: to vote differently?

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's a crazy idea.

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Speaker 1: Certainly, we know if Hunter Biden's business dealings, if Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden's dementia. I mean, the rig job in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: just continues to add different layers. But there was a

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Speaker 1: big Spring Court case that I want to talk some about, Buck,

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned off the top of the show that

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Speaker 1: you listened to a lot of it.

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Speaker 2: I was not.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you where I was in a sec I

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Speaker 1: was reading about it. But I do want to play

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Speaker 1: this because it ties in with the first hour. Do

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Speaker 1: you know what happened one year ago today? Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: publicly challenged Donald Trump to an early debate. Do you

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Speaker 1: remember this, Buck? This is what it sounded like for

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Speaker 1: those of you who had forgotten. This was one year

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Speaker 1: ago today.

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Speaker 3: Listen, Donald Trump lost two debates to me in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Since that, he hadn't shown up for debates. Now he's

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Speaker 3: acting like he wants to debate me again. Will make

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Speaker 3: my day, pal, I'll even do it twice. So let's

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Speaker 3: pick the dace. Donald. I hear you're free on Wednesdays.

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Speaker 2: So and that was because Trump was going to criminal

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Speaker 2: court on wednesdays. Ha ha ha. With the preposterous efforts

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Speaker 2: to destroy Trump's ability to run.

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Speaker 1: Which they try to day pal it, Buck, is that

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Speaker 1: the most disastrous political taunt in history, given what happened later.

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Speaker 2: If if they had just listened to me, they would

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Speaker 2: have been in a much better spot because their best

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Speaker 2: option was Biden. But their best option was Biden with

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Speaker 2: no by the time he was making that taunt with

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Speaker 2: no debates, That's what they should have done. That was

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Speaker 2: the the the fatal flaw in all of this was

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Speaker 2: they thought they could pull one over with the debates

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Speaker 2: one more time, and given that Trump hadn't debated in

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Speaker 2: the primary, the Democrats could have very easily said, well

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Speaker 2: we won't. You know, people have seen enough of these

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Speaker 2: two anyway. I know it's at some level water under

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Speaker 2: the bridge. But they just misplayed this thing. They just

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Speaker 2: screwed it up, the same way they misplayed running against

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Speaker 2: Trump across the board. Yeah, they totally did.

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Speaker 1: And I think, as you break all of this down again,

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Speaker 1: that was one year ago and Biden completely blown up.

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Speaker 1: And I still think and I wonder if in the

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Speaker 1: book they're going to kind of give us an idea

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Speaker 1: of what they intended with the June twenty seventh, because

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Speaker 1: I had forgotten that he said he'd debate him twice. Remember,

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Speaker 1: they didn't even attempt the second debate because the first

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Speaker 1: one went so disastrously. But it was Biden making that

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Speaker 1: video and taunting Trump about how much he wanted to

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Speaker 1: debate that actually put this on the calendar and bucks right.

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Speaker 1: If they had listened to him, they could have at

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Speaker 1: least continued the vast left wing conspiracy about his health

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Speaker 1: until September or October when they did a debate, and

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Speaker 1: maybe then they could have shot up Biden with enough

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Speaker 1: I tend to think that it would have been even

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Speaker 1: more of an implosion if they had been able to

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Speaker 1: keep him in and not been able to make the

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't have been able to replace him like they

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Speaker 1: But I did want to get into this. You listen

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Speaker 1: an hour of it. I was pretty deep into it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for those of you who don't know, major discussed debate,

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Speaker 2: I think it's significant.

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Speaker 1: And producer Ali, I sent you a cut of Clarence

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Speaker 1: is ready. But it is ready, Okay, So Buck here

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Speaker 1: is So for those of you out there who were

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Speaker 1: not following this, it is a little bit complicated, and

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Speaker 1: just the whole Trump era has been steeped and complicated

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Speaker 1: legal arcana as we have been breaking it all down.

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Speaker 1: But really this is kind of a two parter that

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Speaker 1: they were arguing today. One is the big issue is, hey,

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Speaker 1: is it possible for Trump's executive order on birthright citizenship

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Speaker 1: to say that birthright citizenship has been misapplied effectively and

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Speaker 1: citizen and kids, children, babies born to illegal immigrants do

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Speaker 1: not become automatic American citizens right. People who are here

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Speaker 1: in this country illegally do not have the ability to

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Speaker 1: baby automatically becomes an American citizen. That's a big picture question.

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Speaker 1: But structurally this is impacting everything that Trump is trying

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Speaker 1: to do. The question is should a federal district court

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Speaker 1: judge be able to effectively enjoin a presidential action nationwide.

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Speaker 1: They're around six hundred and fifty ish of these federal

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Speaker 1: district court judges, right, And the only person who has

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Speaker 1: that level of universal constitutional authority based on just what

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Speaker 1: he thinks or she thinks it's always been a heat

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Speaker 2: No one Supreme Court justice can say this is the

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Speaker 2: deal for everybody all across the country. But one federal judge,

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Speaker 2: a lower and even lower than an appeals court judge,

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Speaker 2: one one circuit court judge could say this is where

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Speaker 2: we're getting into the universal universal injunction issue. And I

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Speaker 2: think it's very interesting to Clay because you know, with

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Speaker 2: too burdened by not knowing if somebody is a citizen

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Speaker 2: or you know, if they've been given citizenship, whether born

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Speaker 2: It is a pretty complicated series of interlocking legal issues here,

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Speaker 2: and I'm sure you always think that the people that

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Speaker 2: so necessary. But it can't just be on the whim

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Speaker 2: What the policy for the whole country is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it actually goes to me and this is

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Speaker 1: me nerding out a little bit legally. It actually goes

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Speaker 1: to the essence of separation of powers because there are,

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Speaker 1: in theory three co equal branches of the United States government, right,

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Speaker 1: take you back to eighth grade history or whatever. The executive,

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Speaker 1: the congressional branch, and the judicial. The judicial branch rely

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Speaker 1: called the Supreme Court. In order for something to happen,

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Speaker 1: five Supreme Court justices have to agree on it. Circuit

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Speaker 1: executing on a level that Circuit Court judges who are

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Speaker 1: the single authority of a district court judge is actually

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Speaker 1: court judges. And that might sound a little complicated, but

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to explain. And Clarence Thomas pointed out that

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Speaker 1: this has really only become an issue in the modern day,

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Speaker 1: he does a good job of distilling how things have changed.

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Speaker 4: General. When were the first universal injunctions used.

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Speaker 5: We believe that the best reading of that is what

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Speaker 5: you said in Trump against Hawaii, which is that Wartz

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Speaker 5: in nineteen sixty three was really the first universal injunction.

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Speaker 5: There's a dispute about Perkins against Luken's Oil going back

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Speaker 5: Court's opinion that reversed that universal injunction issued by the

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Speaker 5: d C Circuit and said it's profoundly wrong. Now, if

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Speaker 5: and all of those, those are cases where the court

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Speaker 5: statewide issue of provision of injunctive relief. When the court

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Speaker 4: So we survived until the nineteen sixties without universal injunctions.

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Speaker 5: Those are very limited, very rare, even in the nineteen sixties.

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Speaker 5: curre petition in Summers against Earth Island Institute, we pointed

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Speaker 5: out that the Ninth Circuit had started doing this in

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Speaker 5: a whole bunch of cases involving environmental claims.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now again this is in the weeds, but I

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Speaker 1: thought that Clarence Thomas did a really good job. This

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Speaker 1: is only something that's happened recently in our two hundred

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Speaker 2: Just also the Ninth The Ninth Circuit is the most

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Speaker 2: that's where they started doing this no surprise.

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Speaker 1: Most Supreme Court cases come about because the circuit Court's

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Speaker 1: ruled different directions. That is, as Buck just mentioned, the

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Speaker 1: Ninth Circuit is like the West Coast California prominent where

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Speaker 1: on to address circuit splits. That's where the Ninth Circuit,

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Speaker 1: in the Fifth Circuit may have had a different interpretation

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Speaker 1: of the law. Those are the most fertile, the most

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Speaker 1: we need a nationwide decision, and there are two different

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Speaker 1: circuit courts ruling differently. Here you have one random judge

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Speaker 1: and I don't know, Boston, Massachusetts, deciding what the law

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Speaker 1: one random judge in middle of nowhere, Texas. It is

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Speaker 1: a direct attack upon the entire legitimacy of the courts

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Speaker 2: Did you even speech? Yeah? I did. It was incredible.

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Speaker 2: what you see with the whole trip, and also with

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Speaker 2: a lot of what the not everything, but a lot

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Speaker 2: of what the administration is doing so far. You just say,

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Speaker 2: these are just objectively good things to be trying to accomplish,

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Speaker 2: and there's objectively real progress happening on them all. And

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Speaker 2: you get people that are still saying that this is

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Speaker 2: like fascism or something. I mean, there's this delusion they.

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Speaker 1: Live in well, and I think this is why the

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Speaker 1: putting them on the defense with the Joe Biden aspect

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Speaker 1: is so important. You and I think it was ludicrous

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Speaker 1: that the twenty twenty two election in any way turned

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Speaker 1: on January sixth. Whatever you think about Dobbs, at least

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Speaker 1: that was a tangible political action that people felt compelled

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Speaker 1: to respond to. But the idea that anybody in November

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two reacted in their voting patterns based

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Speaker 1: on what happened on January sixth is frankly crazy. But

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Speaker 1: the media made it seem like such a big deal

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Speaker 1: that I think some people were motivated by that. I think,

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Speaker 1: what what I jotted this now during one of the breaks,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give Jake Tapper a small measure of

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Speaker 1: praisier Buck and I just I see your face. I

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Speaker 1: understand that many of you out there also. He likes football,

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Speaker 1: Clay likes football. I knew this was going to happen.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you why, Jake Tapper writing this book is

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Speaker 1: going to be impossible for Democrats to avoid because it's

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Speaker 1: one of their own writing it. If there are lots

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Speaker 1: of very talented quote unquote right wing authors who could

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Speaker 1: write a book about Biden's dementia, and they would forswear it.

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Speaker 1: They would ignore it, just like they have ignored you

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Speaker 1: and me and Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck and all

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Speaker 1: the other people on the Premiere Network, Jesse Kelly pointing

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Speaker 1: this out for years, just like they have ignored many

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Speaker 1: of the people on Fox News, just like they have ignored, frankly,

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Speaker 1: even the Wall Street Journal, when the Wall Street Journal

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Speaker 1: had a big piece about Biden's clear lack of cognitive ability.

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Speaker 1: They can't ignore Jake Tapper. It's like if Rachel Maddow

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Speaker 1: suddenly sits down and says, we got major problems. Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden has dementia which she knew, but which she covered

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Speaker 1: up and pretended she didn't. They have to cover it

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Speaker 1: on CNN, they have to cover it on MSNBC, they

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Speaker 1: have to cover it in The New Yorker, at ABC,

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Speaker 1: at CBS, at NBC. It's one of their own telling

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Speaker 1: the story. And that is the only praise I can

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Speaker 1: give Jake Tapper. If Jesse Waters writes this book, they

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Speaker 1: just say, oh, yeah, of course, that Fox News host.

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Speaker 1: If you or I write this book. They're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: of course, the guys who sit where Rush used to

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Speaker 1: the Jake Tapper is one of their own, and he

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Speaker 1: is holding up the dementia and they feel compelled to

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Speaker 1: have to cover it now. Is partly to your point,

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Speaker 1: the fact that they they'd rather be dumb than be

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Speaker 1: seen as dishonest. Yes, Are they going to claim that

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Speaker 1: they got lied to? Yes, which is why I liked

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Speaker 1: your tweet yesterday that you brought up yesterday. Why don't

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Speaker 1: you tell us who lied about Karie Jean Pierre. You know,

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Speaker 1: has there ever been a more public liar in the

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Speaker 1: history of the United States than Karine Jean Pierre Zensaki,

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Speaker 1: who has her own show on MSNBC. She didn't know,

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Speaker 1: She didn't know when when Jake Sullivan, when Biden can't

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Speaker 1: remember his name. They didn't talk about it inside of

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Speaker 1: the they.

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Speaker 2: All knew, they all knew. I wish they would come

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Speaker 2: forward actually and just say, yeah, we knew he had dementia.

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Speaker 2: But we figured that was a better outcome for the

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Speaker 2: country than the fascist Donald Trump. And that was the

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Speaker 2: decision we made. That would show how at some level

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Speaker 2: craven they are. But at least I could respect that, Like,

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Speaker 2: at least I could say, all right, you guys are

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Speaker 2: ruthless and you're liar.

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Speaker 1: Is that is also honest? At least it's honest. Yes,

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Speaker 1: at least it is honest.

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Speaker 2: At least they would be telling us what really happened, which,

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Speaker 2: let me just be clear, that is what happened. It's

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Speaker 2: not I think that's what happened. That is what happened.

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Speaker 2: We all know it the same way we knew Biden

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Speaker 2: had dementia. We know that they knew, and they knew that,

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Speaker 2: we knew. Everybody knows, and now the Hubrist to try

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Speaker 2: to pretend like nobody knew. This is really a But

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Speaker 2: if I point on the Tapper thing, Tapper is one

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Speaker 2: of them, it would be like if Joe Scarborough wrote

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Speaker 2: Biden has dementia, he wouldn't do it. Also, why why

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Speaker 2: couldn't Alex Thompson do this himself?

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Speaker 4: Though?

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Speaker 2: What I would Well, that's my question that I've had

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Speaker 2: from the start. Right, if he's the one that people

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Speaker 2: say but he was more honest about it, it's like,

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Speaker 2: why do I think he's adding Tapper? Because Tapper's whole

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Speaker 2: thing within the Democrats is like that is first of all,

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Speaker 2: if he came on, which who knows if you will

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Speaker 2: or not, or if we want to have him or not,

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Speaker 2: he would still claim that he's an objective reporter and

528
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Speaker 2: does not actually he's I mean, he's a clear Democrat activist,

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Speaker 2: but he would say he's an objective reporter. He would

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Speaker 2: hold to that, and he is the last gasp of

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Speaker 2: the Democrats clinging to that fiction. So he has a

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Speaker 2: lot of power within the Democrat media ranks because of that.

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Speaker 2: Because if everyone just and when I say everybody, everyone

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Speaker 2: on the right already knows. But if the country, by

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Speaker 2: sort of overwhelming consensus that that pays attention to news

536
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Speaker 2: a lot of your fortune, you don't even care about

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Speaker 2: this crap. But the country that pays attention to, you know,

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Speaker 2: news media, it was all like, you know what, Jake

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Speaker 2: Tapper was a big partisan fraud too. It's all over

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Speaker 2: for them now. It's just it's MSNBC and it's Fox.

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Speaker 2: It's two different teams. We all know it, we all

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Speaker 2: get it. There's no more of the pretense because the

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Speaker 2: pretense has been a built in advantage. The pretense of

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Speaker 2: journalism as an objective thing instead of journalism is really

545
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Speaker 2: just the term given to left wing activists who write

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Speaker 2: stories for left wing news organizations. If that goes away,

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Speaker 2: they lose something that they've been able to rely on

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Speaker 2: for a long time, and it's been going away. But

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Speaker 2: I think this is the death throes of it.

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Speaker 1: I do think there's a small realization dawning in a

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Speaker 1: good guys and they're actually going to be the bad

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Speaker 2: I was not really aware of this, and now I'm there,

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm I'm a newbie into all this. Uh,

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Speaker 2: the answer to that is of course no, But play

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Speaker 2: I just grow that you could be in trouble as

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Speaker 1: All right, so here's the flip side. Can you imagine

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Speaker 1: holding her accountable in any way or being angry for

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Speaker 1: her based on something that she did in your dream?

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Speaker 1: Has this happened at any point in your relationship that

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Speaker 1: you can remember so far?

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Speaker 2: No? Yes?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: So do you think it's only I don't know because

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Speaker 2: I'm with no. But my understanding is these are the

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Speaker 2: rules of marriage. Like wife is allowed to be annoyed

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Speaker 2: over morning coffee for at least a little bit, if

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Speaker 2: you were naughty in the dream that she had, even

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Speaker 2: if she knows it was a dream, these are the rules.

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Speaker 2: I don't make the rules. No, No, I get it.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think why would women be able

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Speaker 1: to get mad at their husbands? But I'm just asking

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Speaker 1: because I I can't recall ever being angry at my

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Speaker 1: wife over something that she did in my dream? Right,

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Speaker 1: has Laura ever been mad at you for what you

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Speaker 1: did in her dream? That's a great question. We've been

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Speaker 1: married for almost twenty one years. I'm sure I've given

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Speaker 1: her ample reasons to be mad at me for many reasons,

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Speaker 1: both awake and dreaming over those twenty one years, but

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Speaker 1: I can't remember, but it feels like probably yes is

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Speaker 1: the answer.

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Speaker 2: But it is an interesting question because my.

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Speaker 1: Point is if you had been angry at her, I

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Speaker 1: don't think it would be accepted.

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Speaker 2: No, of course not. I'm a dude. We can't do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why is it acceptable the opposite direction? I think

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Speaker 1: it's an interesting question. I'm gonna go downstairs and ask you.

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Speaker 1: Men and women are different, buddy.

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Speaker 2: You know that. I do know. No way, next second

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Speaker 2: you're gonna tell me men shouldn't be able to play

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Speaker 2: women's sports