1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and welcome to Stuff 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Never Told You producture buy Heart Radio. Welcome to another 3 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: addition of Happy Hour. As always, if you choose to 4 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: drink or whatever you choose to do, you please do 5 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: so responsibly. Are you sipping on anything, Santa? 6 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: I am drinking water because I feel like I need 7 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: lots of water today. What about you? 8 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: I have kind of a hot toddy situation. I really 9 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: wanted a sing taw for this episode because of the topic, 10 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: but I don't have any. So that's what I'm it. 11 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: Yes it is, Yes, it is. So this is going 12 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: to be kind of embarrassing for me. I think I'm 13 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: not going to get Sometimes I worry when I do 14 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: these that people are going to psychoanalyze me and write 15 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: in like this is what was going on with you? 16 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: But if you've been listening to our recent happy Hours, 17 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: a lot of them have been about in my past 18 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: relationships and experiences being queer and all of that stuff. 19 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: And in the most recent one, I said I'd been 20 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: in this relationship with my ex boyfriend for a long 21 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: time because I thought I should be that, you know, 22 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't. I said the yearner in it like I 23 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: was not the one yearning for this, and I felt 24 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: a little bit of guilt and I said some kind 25 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: of throwaway line like I don't think I've ever been 26 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: that broken hearted. Well, immediately after loss that I had, she. 27 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: Sent an email. 28 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: Immediately. I think I must have like pushed this whole 29 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: thing down deep because I didn't think about it. But 30 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: when I was listening to the QA, when we listened 31 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: back to make sure there are no errors or anything 32 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: like that, I immediately was like, oh wait, I forgot 33 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: this part. I have been uh. And it was very 34 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: serious indeed, actually, and I kind of want to talk 35 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: about it because I've never confronted it since I've gotten 36 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: older about what happened. So essentially, I went to China 37 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: for about eight months. I lived in China for about 38 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: eight months, and I was I just turned twenty one, 39 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: and I was very insecure. That's what I'm going to 40 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: say right the top. I was very insecure in a 41 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: lot of ways. And I I was the head of 42 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 1: the group of interns that went to China, and there 43 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: was like a larger expat group of mostly Americans, but 44 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: there were some people from Canada and stuff too, and 45 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: we were teaching English, and I, as the head of 46 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: the interns, interacted a lot with the head of this 47 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: group of older people. We were very close. We became 48 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: very close, and I thought it was cool that somebody 49 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: that I thought was so cool liked to talk to me, 50 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: and we would watch movies together and stuff, and so 51 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: I just really like looked forward to hanging out with 52 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: him or getting a text from him. He had a 53 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: motor cycle, so like, right on that with him, I'm 54 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: like blushing, I'm so embarrassed by this whole thing. But 55 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: he was gay, and I I personally, to this day 56 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: am kind of conflicted about how it played out because 57 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: we were so close and he would say these things 58 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: to me, like I could wait a thousand years and 59 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: never meet anyone like you like these Really I felt 60 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: like romantic kind of things, but I didn't view it 61 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: as that, and I think looking back, it's more of 62 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: a I did love him, like he was like a 63 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: person I cared about so much. But I think sadly 64 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: part of it was he was a guy that had 65 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: no sexual interest and because of that, because I had 66 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: been taught at least that like having interest from a 67 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: guy is more important than having interest from a woman 68 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: that I was so like infatuated, but it felt safe 69 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: because I knew he didn't want anything to do with 70 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: me like that. But we were inseparable. And it's like, 71 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 1: looking back, I can see why I got so many 72 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: sit down I got interventions, like friends would sit me down, 73 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: be like, you are in love with this guy. My 74 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: mom sat me down with mother, my mom, because what 75 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: happened was I was on a part time internship for 76 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: eight months and by the way, we got matching tattoos 77 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of pictures of me wearing his clothes. 78 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: But I had to leave and I was like sobbing inconsolably, 79 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: but I planned to come back. I was going to 80 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: move to China. When I got back to the US. 81 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: That's when I found out my dad had terminal cancer 82 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: and he was like, if you go, if you go 83 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: back to China, you're going to be visiting a tombstone. 84 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: And then I was still kind of like I could 85 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: I want to go. I really want to go do this. 86 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: This is my plan. And that's when I got the 87 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: call from our old company, House Stuff Works, and I was, 88 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, like it was out of the blue. I 89 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: had applied years before and just had the blue I 90 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: got this call and that's when my parents said, if 91 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: you get this job, please stay. And I didn't think 92 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: I was going to get the job, and then I 93 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: did and I ended up staying. And Uh, that's when 94 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: my mom sat me down because I was like, it 95 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: feels like he's half of me. Mom, Like it was 96 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: really bad, it was really embarrassing, Samantha. 97 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: I've been there. 98 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 3: I think about some my own moments, like I sobbed 99 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 3: cried at a mission trip for a dude that we 100 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 3: did not have interest in, and I was just like, 101 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 3: I will never see him again. 102 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: And I sobbed. I met him for a week in 103 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: high school, a week. 104 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: I remember his name. I'm just beyond embarrassed. Like I 105 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 3: wasn't even in love with him. I don't know why 106 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: I was so attached with him. I knew I wasn't 107 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: in love with him. 108 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing I'm still grappling with is I 109 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: don't think I was in love. I think maybe I 110 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: had some kind of attachment that was very strong, and 111 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: I was very insecure and I was dealing with, like 112 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: I said, having this male attention that wasn't sexual that 113 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: made me feel like my personality is good. I don't know. 114 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: And we did do everything together and we had so 115 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: much fun and he would say those things to me, 116 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: and I knew there was It felt like there was 117 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: no other intent, you know what I mean. Like a 118 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: lot of times when guys would say something like that 119 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: to me, I'd be like, oh, you want to have sex, 120 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: But when he would say something like that to me, 121 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: it was like, oh, you actually value me as a person. 122 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: Like me okay, as a person yeah, which. 123 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: Again is terrible. And I was thinking about this and 124 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: kind of the whole trope with a gay best friend 125 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: and all of that. So I don't feel great about it, 126 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: but I think that's where it was coming from. But 127 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: people sat me down, like my friends in China sat 128 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: me down at the table while you were in love, 129 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: and we need to get you out of this because 130 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: he's not gonna love you back. And I was so shocked, 131 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: and then I like, now I'm thinking about I'm like, 132 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: of course they thought that we got magic tattoos. And 133 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: I was wearing his clothes all the time. Oh got 134 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: shirts made together. I still have it, and you know, 135 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: I never went back, uh, And we kept in touch 136 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: and I actually met him a couple of years ago 137 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: in Chicago. Oh yes, because he's I don't know where 138 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: he is now, but that's where he was when I 139 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: met up with him. And it was amazing how seamlessly 140 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: we just picked up where we were and he introduced 141 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: me to people like this is one of the best 142 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: people I've ever met. Like it was like, so, I 143 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: hope it meant something to him too. 144 00:09:58,320 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure it did. 145 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it did. I mean one would assume 146 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: you don't get matching tattoos with just anybody, but I 147 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: don't know. I was just thinking about it and I 148 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: hadn't considered because I used to think about him every day, 149 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: like every day, and it was like a wound. But 150 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm kind of it kind of sounds similar to what 151 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: you were saying, Samantha. This way was way more extreme 152 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: than it normally happens to me. But I am a 153 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: very emotional like I'll never see you again. You came 154 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: into my life when I needed you, and you'll never 155 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: think of me ever again or whatever it is, So everything's. 156 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 4: Gonna fall apart. I've been spending every day with you 157 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 4: for eight months. All the other interns that I was 158 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 4: so cool it's riding around on a motorcycle. 159 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was also I mean, we just had 160 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: really deep conversations. I think sometimes it's easier to have 161 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: those conversations with people you don't know very well, which, right, 162 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: what kind of power our partnership on this show came 163 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: to be. So we had a lot of deep conversations. 164 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: And yeah, because I was twenty one, I think I 165 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: was just coming to terms with a lot of stuff. 166 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: And he was so like affectionate, openly affection but I'd forgotten. 167 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: I can't believe. I cannot believe you left him. Now 168 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: I know, I know. So I do understand to all 169 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: the yearners whatever that might look like, had your heart broken. 170 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: Turns out I really did. I did understand our card 171 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: like every. 172 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: Day for imagine if you would like to China, Yeah. 173 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: My life would have been so different. And now when 174 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: I was when I was leaving in my exit interview, 175 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: I started crying and I was like, please don't make 176 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: me leave, and my boss was like, you have to go. 177 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: You cried to your boss. Now, that's intense. 178 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: It was so embarrassing. It was so embarrassing, but I did, like, 179 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: you know, I just hope that I hope it's not 180 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: a bad memory for him. 181 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure it isn't unless people told him how much 182 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: you cried. 183 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 1: I probably did. I have to go look back to 184 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: my old messages see what I said. 185 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: You'll probably still be like, oh that sweet. 186 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I don't. I don't think so. And I 187 00:12:55,640 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: was being very dramatic. He was, I think he was. 188 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: I was twenty one and he's twenty four, so he 189 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: was a little bit more secure, and he'd been in 190 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: China for a long time, like he could speak Mandarin, 191 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: and so I think like he was he was in 192 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: a bit of a more stable place than I was 193 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: when I showed up and it's like, oh, what is this? 194 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: What is this? 195 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 196 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: And he was just very open, and I think it 197 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: is you know sometimes when you like leave your your 198 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: small town and you go somewhere very different. Because I 199 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: feel like when I went to Europe it was sort 200 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: of a it was less of a culture shock, and 201 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,599 Speaker 1: then when I went to China and I was like, oh, 202 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: and so it just felt like I was learning a 203 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: lot of new things. 204 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: Right and be overwhelming. 205 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, But he was kind of a steadying presence and 206 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: he was the one that would be like here's where, 207 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: here's the food you gotta eat, here's the drinks cold 208 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: r yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, that's part of my messy, 209 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: my messy relationship history. I don't know. I still am 210 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: not sure. I don't think I was in love. I 211 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: think there was something though. There was definitely something going on. 212 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: You an attachment that's not uncommon. 213 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I think. But I have to say, 214 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: everybody was sitting me down and it was telling me 215 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: this is what it looks like, which I I it's 216 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: kind of interesting because I've seen that before too, of 217 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, being a queer person and everybody's like telling you, 218 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: this is what your relationship looks like, and you're kind 219 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: of like, no, that doesn't describe my experience. But I 220 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: get why you think that. But I could never I 221 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: could never make a good defense of myself. Really. Yeah. 222 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: They had a lot of points, a lot of evidence. Yeah, 223 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: it wouldn't look good for me. If somebody was making 224 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: a presentation like I did to my poor friend, it 225 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: would not look good for me. 226 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: Some of the things I'll do quite hilarious. 227 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Anyway, I just felt like I had to 228 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: correct the record on that because it was such a 229 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: glaring Yeah, that was such such a glaring misstep. 230 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: On my. 231 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: Immediately as we were like, she immediately sent out this 232 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: email to let us know she lied. She's like, oh, 233 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: I forgot let me tell you. 234 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: I have to tell somebody. 235 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I was just like, what was 236 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: I thinking not mentioning that? So here we go. 237 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: Thank you for thank you for telling us the truth. 238 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm on trial. Here you go. 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