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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 2: The Armstrong and Getty Communications compound, which is surrounded by

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Speaker 2: razor wire and barking dogs. Actually, I am happy. We

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Speaker 2: I think that's a gun. Welcome, How you doing, Glad

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Speaker 2: you're here? Oh, all right, today we're under the tutelage

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Speaker 2: of our general manager. I'll go with Jimmy Kimmel, just

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Speaker 2: because I think that's a danged interesting conversation. Jimmy Kimmel's

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Speaker 2: show being taken off the air indefinitely. Nobody seems to

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Speaker 2: know if that means. Usually in the world of broadcasting,

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Speaker 2: indefinite is forever, almost always in my experience, but this

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel over the last many years to be an

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Speaker 2: insufferably pompous. Well, I came across the word last night.

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Speaker 2: Popped in my head. I thought that was the perfect

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Speaker 2: pompous is close enough. Just just the whole our side

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Speaker 2: It's just so annoying. But I also don't want the government,

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Speaker 2: you know, policing speech. So we'll get into both sides

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Speaker 2: of that comment with as as the same with Colbert

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Speaker 2: when he got taken off the air. Being left out.

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Speaker 2: A lot is these people's ratings are really low compared

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Speaker 2: very high ratings. With all that said, I still don't

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Speaker 2: want the government policing speech, so we'll handle all that. Yes, Michael,

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Speaker 4: if you know the network just said here's an excuse.

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Speaker 2: Or it's not going to do so that much. Du

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Speaker 2: I mean there's a there's another deal going through and

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Speaker 2: people don't want trouble whatever. But have you heard what

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Speaker 2: he said regarding the Charlie Cook assassination. He said it

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Speaker 2: And definitely will play that for you and talk about

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Speaker 2: all the ins and outs of all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Got a lot of great guests lined up today on

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Speaker 2: a bunch of different topics, everything from what do the

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Speaker 2: interest rates going down a quarter point mean for you

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Speaker 2: if anything at all? And doesn't mean a whole lot

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Speaker 2: for you yet, just directionally it's good, but it doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean a lot for you yet. And talk a little

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Speaker 2: bit about Trump's trip to England. Did you see that

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Speaker 2: meal that they had last night. That table was more

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Speaker 2: imagine sitting at table, eating dinner at a table more

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Speaker 2: You could meet them years from now and say, oh,

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Speaker 2: we were fifty yards away. Yeah, at that sixty yard

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Speaker 2: Charles and the windsor castle, whatever the hell that is

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Speaker 2: trumps special guests. You get to bring anybody you want

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Speaker 2: But a lot of people with a lot of money,

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Speaker 2: going back to maybe more your traditional work with your

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Speaker 2: hands sort of the jobs anyway, that's a separate topic.

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Speaker 2: There is a horrifying attack on police in Pennsylvania, worst

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Speaker 2: I think it's just a random, one off, horrible story.

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Speaker 2: if any more details come out, we'll hit you with that.

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Speaker 2: There is some new stuff around the Charlie Kirk assassination.

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Speaker 2: Knowing a little more about the the shooter and the

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Speaker 2: and hopefully he gets shot himself. That's the result I'm

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Speaker 2: looking for. Some of my favorite conservative commentators are pretty

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Speaker 2: uncomfortable with Jimmy Kimmel being driven off the air, if

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Speaker 2: that's what happened by the FCC. The FCC Commissioner has

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Speaker 2: And like I said, some of my favorite conservative commentators

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Speaker 2: For instance, Randy Weingarten, Lady, I've been running the teachers

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Speaker 2: that's a pretty strong thing to say. A democratic administration,

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Speaker 2: though he said a really awful stupid thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that I have like a great argument

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Speaker 2: Right because it is possible. Well, let's start to show officially.

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Speaker 2: We're going to play a little bit of Kimmel the

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Speaker 2: Frock with the FCC watch out. Yeah, yeah, exactly got

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Speaker 2: to start the show officially. The FCC gets on this.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jack Armstrong, he's Joe Getty on this. It is

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Speaker 2: how did it get to be? Thursday, September eighteenth to

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Speaker 2: year twenty twenty five Armstrong and Geedy and we approve

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Speaker 2: doing it on time, mister chairman Mark.

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Speaker 5: We hit some new lows over the weekend with the

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Speaker 2: That's good. There was play the rest later, but that

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Speaker 2: Seventy percent of Democrats believe that that killer scumbag is maga.

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Speaker 6: In law enforcement, he was into guns. He's a white boy,

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Speaker 2: And it's like, what are you talking about. You don't

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Speaker 6: His dad's in law enforcement, so clearly they're maga.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so i'd that whole The fact that seventy percent

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Speaker 2: After nine to eleven, Bill Maher had a show on

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if Jimmy Kimmel reached that level,

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Speaker 1: Great to be back.

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Speaker 1: I would like to say I'm optimistic, but I think

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Speaker 1: that we're probably in the beginning of a intensifying sort

434
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Speaker 1: of free speech crisis, and it's happening not just in

435
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Speaker 1: the US, it's happening globally right So unfortunately, business is

436
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Speaker 1: booming in free speech Land. So I'm not going to

437
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Speaker 1: get a lot of sleep, nor will the good people

438
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Speaker 1: at fire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's going on in England is just horrifying.

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Speaker 1: Horrifying, and my mom is British, so it's very personal

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Speaker 1: to me and they will continue to I did a

442
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Speaker 1: piece on my sub sect, the eternally radical idea, where

443
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Speaker 1: just pointing out the sheer number of people that they're arresting.

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Speaker 1: It has no parallel. I don't think it has any

445
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Speaker 1: parallel in British history. It certainly doesn't have a parallel

446
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Speaker 1: in American history in terms of the scale.

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Speaker 2: So you've written a lot about cancel culture over the years,

448
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Speaker 2: and we've got an example in the last twenty four

449
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Speaker 2: hours and since Charlie Kirk's death. So you've got people

450
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Speaker 2: being canceled from their jobs for saying sometimes really awful,

451
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Speaker 2: awful things. But should they lose their jobs over it?

452
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Speaker 2: Should the government be getting involved in put pressure on

453
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Speaker 2: broadcast licenses to get rid of someone like Jimmy Kimmel

454
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Speaker 2: because they don't like what they say. Where are you

455
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Speaker 2: on this whole thing?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So you know, it really is the case

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Speaker 1: by case thing and canceling of the American mind. You know,

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Speaker 1: we give a definition of cancel culture, which is the

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Speaker 1: uptick of campaigns to get people fired or otherwise punished,

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Speaker 1: starting around twenty fourteen for speech that would be protected

461
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Speaker 1: for say a public employee. So we choose a lot

462
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Speaker 1: of like nuanced and common sense to it. But to

463
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Speaker 1: be clear, some of the people who are getting punished,

464
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Speaker 1: you know, we're saying things relatively tame things that we're seeing,

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Speaker 1: at least some of the stuff we're seeing on campus.

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Speaker 1: It's not all that guy had it coming. It's a

467
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Speaker 1: little bit like I really disagree with that guy on

468
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Speaker 1: a lot of things, which is, of course, you know,

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Speaker 1: completely within bounds. But the Jimmy Kimmel stuff, I mean, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he Jimmy Kimmel was kind of a typical kind of

471
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Speaker 1: Hollywood guy, Like he just he was desperate that this

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Speaker 1: guy be right wing. And I saw this like in

473
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Speaker 1: the media as well. It's kind of embarrassed for a

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Speaker 1: lot of mainstream to be kind of like, well, look,

475
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Speaker 1: his parents are Republicans. Must be like in what universe, right,

476
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Speaker 1: the case that your parents are bubbled.

477
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Speaker 2: Because no conservative family sends their kids off to college

478
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Speaker 2: and they come back, you know, with completely different politics.

479
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Speaker 1: Well, I was just thinking about family ties. Say, comey

480
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Speaker 1: watched as a kid, like, right, yes, that's what That's

481
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Speaker 1: more the way it goes it's a technical termce skinsmogenesis,

482
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Speaker 1: but the so so, you know, it's kind of typical

483
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Speaker 1: that he was kind of implying that this guy's got

484
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Speaker 1: to be maga in some of his UH in his

485
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Speaker 1: comedy routine on Monday. But then you know, the campaign

486
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Speaker 1: and it was really clearly a campaign to get Jimmy fired.

487
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Speaker 1: Taking this opportunity really got going, you know, with Brendan

488
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Speaker 1: Carr being really clear about it. And and another thing

489
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Speaker 1: that's really important to point out is that, you know,

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Speaker 1: months ago they were saying Jimmy Kimmel's next, you know,

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Speaker 1: so this was this was a you know, I think,

492
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Speaker 1: a target about opportunity to get this guy fired. And

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Speaker 1: I've never been to be clear, I've never seen something

494
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Speaker 1: quite like this. And people will always do what about ism,

495
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Speaker 1: like what about what about like Rose Ambar or some

496
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Speaker 1: of these other cases. It's like, I just haven't seen

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Speaker 1: this level of pressure on mainstream networks to silence to

498
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Speaker 1: silence a comedian.

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Speaker 2: Right well, because of my politics, I'm highly annoyed by

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Speaker 2: the UH treating anybody to the right side of the

501
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Speaker 2: aisle as a moron the way Colbert and Kimmel did.

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Speaker 2: But The problem with the government putting pressure on networks

503
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Speaker 2: to get rid of them, or broadcast licenses or whatever

504
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Speaker 2: is there's gonna be a democratic president someday, and I

505
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Speaker 2: don't want President Gavin Newsom telling his FCC hey, right

506
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Speaker 2: wing talk radio is out of control and we need

507
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Speaker 2: to do something about this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is interesting, but the way the Trump administration

509
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Speaker 1: has been running things, it seems like they don't care

510
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Speaker 1: about the fact that someone else could have used this

511
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Speaker 1: power in the future, with kind of like an idea

512
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Speaker 1: that they're always going to be the ones who are

513
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Speaker 1: making these calls, which I think is foolish. But it's also,

514
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Speaker 1: by the way, rightfully banned it in a lot of

515
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Speaker 1: these cases by the First Amendment. And fire's job in

516
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Speaker 1: this situation like this is the call balls and strikes,

517
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Speaker 1: and I will get people sometimes saying, oh, the political

518
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: situation is so intense right now you have to pick

519
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: a side that your quite little First Amendment thing that

520
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: you know doesn't really apply it in this kind of battle.

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Speaker 1: And I'm always like, no, right now, the rules of

522
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: the road matter more than ever, and it's our job

523
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Speaker 1: to defend them.

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Speaker 2: Specifically, Charlie Kirk, while he was out there doing his thing,

525
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Speaker 2: going to college campuses. Did you think that was a

526
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Speaker 2: productive thing for free speech in America?

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Speaker 1: I did. Actually, you know, my disagreement with Charlie Kirk

528
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Speaker 1: is mostly due to their scholar their scholar database, the

529
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Speaker 1: scholar Watch, which I was not a big fan of,

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Speaker 1: because it resulted in a lot of people, a lot

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Speaker 1: of tends to get people fired, a lot of you know,

532
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: a lot of cancer culture. We made a big distinction

533
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Speaker 1: between just calling out professors, which you totally can do,

534
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Speaker 1: but you know when you put like this is their

535
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Speaker 1: supervisor and like all this kind of stuff to try

536
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Speaker 1: to get them fired, I got an issue with that. However,

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Speaker 1: you know, Charlie's murder has led me to, you know,

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Speaker 1: go back and look at some of his discussions with students,

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Speaker 1: and I think this is having this effect all over

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Speaker 1: the country. By the way, yeah, definitely, So political violence

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Speaker 1: tends to backfire, and I'm like, wow, Like he dealt

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Speaker 1: with some frustrating questions and he dealt with them usually

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Speaker 1: like that was the one that I saw with pretty civilly.

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Speaker 1: So I've left with an impression that it was a

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Speaker 1: productive dialogue.

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Speaker 2: Right. I don't know if you've seen the it's on YouTube.

547
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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk with Bill Maher. They had like a two

548
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Speaker 2: hour conversation in Bill Maher's basement a couple of months ago,

549
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Speaker 2: pretty recently, and it was it was as between two

550
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Speaker 2: guys that agree on nothing is you could possibly imagine

551
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Speaker 2: and if we can't do that, we're doomed. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I'm actually speaking at Sun Valley at Sun Valley,

553
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Speaker 1: at Utah Valley on October thirtieth, and what's crazy. I'm

554
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: just gonna admit it. You know, am I a little spooked?

555
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Speaker 1: You know? Of course I am. But you can't ever

556
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Speaker 1: let the you know, assassin veto win. You have to

557
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Speaker 1: actually show up. You have to you know, pick up

558
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Speaker 1: the mantle. You have to actually you know, have that discussion.

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Speaker 1: And I'm hoping to go there with a message of

560
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Speaker 1: you know, essentially free speech belongs to us all or

561
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Speaker 1: belongs to nobody, because I think the younger people are

562
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Speaker 1: being taught that freedom of speech is the weapon of

563
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Speaker 1: the bully, the big and the robber baron. And as

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Speaker 1: I say all the time, that is just that history.

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Speaker 1: You are being miseducated on this topic. So hopefully I

566
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Speaker 1: can I'm going to try and Fire is always trying

567
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Speaker 1: to contribute to a deeper, more philosophical understanding of the

568
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Speaker 1: frankly beautiful role of free speech in human history.

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Speaker 2: Well, we talk about your books all the time. The

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Speaker 2: Coddling of the American Mind is my partner. Joe's one

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Speaker 2: of his favorite books of all time. We mentioned stuff

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Speaker 2: that you write all the time. What particularly would you

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Speaker 2: like us to point people to right now before I

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Speaker 2: let you go?

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Speaker 1: Sure? I mean, you know, the most important thing is

576
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: that Fire is currently overwhelmed, so we could really use

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Speaker 1: support from people, and we need the people who care

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Speaker 1: about free speech for their own side, but also for

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Speaker 1: everyone else. We need those principal people are out there

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Speaker 1: to come and help because right now, to use a pun,

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Speaker 1: it's a free speech just kind of have a house

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Speaker 1: on fire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Greg Lukiana, thanks for your time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I take care.

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Speaker 5: Yea.

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Speaker 2: He is really good and he's absolutely right. Like I

587
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Speaker 2: can't stand Jimmy Kimmel. I mean, he makes my skin crawl.

588
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: He's so smug. That's the word I was looking for.

589
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,959
Speaker 2: He is so freaking smug. But if the FCC can

590
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Speaker 2: pressure him off the air, he can pressure Joe and

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Speaker 2: I off. They can pressure joean eye off the air

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Speaker 2: and a different administration absolutely, so that bothers me. I

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Speaker 2: know a lot of you are going to be angry

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Speaker 2: and feel like I'm standing up for Jimmy Kimmel because

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Speaker 2: I'm not just really rolling around in glee that he

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Speaker 2: got fired. But uh, once you allow that weapon of

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Speaker 2: canceling people from the FCC to be wielded against your enemies,

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Speaker 2: it's going to come back. I just know it is.

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Speaker 2: We've got a lot more time to talk about this

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Speaker 2: and other stuff. I hope you can stick around.

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Speaker 7: Former MNA fighter Conor McGregor announced this week vide has

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Speaker 2: They now, okay, we're getting a number of texts from

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Speaker 2: people saying the FCC had nothing to do with Jimmy

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Speaker 2: Kimmel being fired. These various groups of stations decided they

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Speaker 2: want to drop him. Okay, we'll play some quotes from

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Speaker 2: the FCC commissioner. I'll read you some things that he

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Speaker 2: said in recent days. He was absolutely pressuring people on

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Speaker 2: their broadcast license. And I can tell you trust me,

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Speaker 2: I'm in business. We have the radio stations have the

629
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Speaker 2: same deal with broadcast licenses TV do as TV does.

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Speaker 2: Owners get really nervous, really fast if there's even a

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Speaker 2: whiff of trouble with their license, they just do. It's

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Speaker 2: been that way my whole career. Just the most subtle

633
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Speaker 2: hint of your on the wrong side of things makes

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Speaker 2: people a pucker, if you'll pardon the expression. So we'll

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Speaker 2: get into that next hour. The FCC did have something

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Speaker 2: to do with this. I didn't mention this letter the

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Speaker 2: other day. So I've been talking about prunes a lot.

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Speaker 2: I will not explain exactly why. You could probably guess. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I wonder why. It's just a treat I enjoy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: just a nice little snack, the humble prune. Some of

641
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Speaker 2: you like oranges, some of you like a candy bar.

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Speaker 2: I enjoy it. Prune now and then, or at least

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Speaker 2: I have for the last week or so. I had

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Speaker 2: never had a prune in my life until my doctor

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Speaker 2: recommended it for a perticigator situation. We don't need to

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Speaker 2: get into hydration anyway. So the orders from the doctor

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Speaker 2: was start with run one prune to day, and then

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Speaker 2: if that doesn't work, go to two prunes. And I've

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Speaker 2: found the sweet spot seems to be between four and

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Speaker 2: five prunes today, maybe more than you wanted to do.

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Speaker 2: Whatever works for you, Jack. Anyway, because we talked about

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Speaker 2: prune so much, to California prune association or network or

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Speaker 2: company or whatever they are had heard this and sent

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Speaker 2: us a gift box the other day with all kinds

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Speaker 2: of different kind of prune related treats and a prune

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Speaker 2: hat and that my son is going to wear to

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Speaker 2: school and it's good. But anyway, I didn't read from

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Speaker 2: the letter. Dear Jack. I'm an avid listener and caught

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Speaker 2: your recent segments about prunes and couldn't be happier to

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Speaker 2: share our passion for this dried fruit. Now that you

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Speaker 2: know what prunes are, we thought we'd level up your

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Speaker 2: prune game. Yeah. I didn't know what a prune was.

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Speaker 2: I'd heard about it my whole life. When I was

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Speaker 2: a kid. They would always joke about him on sitcoms.

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Speaker 2: Old people would joke about prunes. So I knew it

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Speaker 2: had something to do with your you know, regulating your system,

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Speaker 2: But I didn't really know what they were. I can't

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Speaker 2: believe he didn't know what a prune was. Good grief.

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Speaker 2: I'm that kind of person.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 2: I know what they are. Now. They're a part of

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Speaker 2: my life. They're best friends. Me and prudes are best friends.

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Speaker 2: That's funny that the Prune people sent me so much

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Speaker 2: swag I have more prude swag than the who knew

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Speaker 2: the Prune people even had hats. I wouldn't be mad

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Speaker 2: at a prune hat. No, no, it's pretty awesome. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we got a lot more news to get to, things

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Speaker 2: that are going on in the world. Trump's in Great Britain,

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimble got fired, this and that. If you miss

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Speaker 2: a segment an hour, get the podcast Armstrong and Geddy

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Speaker 2: on demand and uh, we'll get to all this other

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Speaker 2: stuff coming up. Some great guests too, and a whole

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Speaker 2: bunch of different topics, so please stay here, Armstrong and

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