WEBVTT - Kevin Durant | EP 14 | Perkins Twitter Beef, Warriors Run, Kyrie & Nets 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:15.560 Man, welcome back, episode fourteen. Coming to you from New 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:20.599 York or is coldish ship out here? Man? Do it? Man, 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:24.680 My brother Jack good to see to see my boy. Man. 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:32.639 We got the one and only appreciate you coming in. Man. Uh, 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:35.519 you're on the East coast, your East coast do man? 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:38.639 Welcome back, man. Yeah, you started your career out here 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.520 man early year. Let's jump right into it. Man. Something 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:43.920 that I've always kind of been on your side with 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:47.760 because I'm one of these similar type people where social media, 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:51.760 I think people think because you can access anybody, you 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:56.280 could say anything you want to people, and you're someone that, 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:00.000 like I don't give a funk my status. I am him. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.600 But if you disrespect me, I'm gonna come at you. 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:07.720 Tell me your thought process about that platform. I mean 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:11.399 it's really simple. It's not like I mean, I like Twitter. 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:13.320 I mean, if I see something on there that I 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.039 want to respond to, I'm just gonna do it. It's 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:18.920 not like a predetermined thing. I just kind of see 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:21.880 scroll on it. I liked. I like the platform, and 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.360 any chance I get to give somebody a piece of 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:26.959 my brain, I want to do it. When you hear 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:29.680 people say like, well he's Kevin Durant, Why is he this? 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.119 Why is he that? Like? What is your what's your 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.319 response to that? I don't even know what that means. 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:38.680 Like you, yeah, like they hold you to a high standard, 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.600 but they respect all your opinions to be the same 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:43.640 way that they would think exactly. It's a problem if 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:46.800 if it's if they disagree with exactly. So, you know, everybody, 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:48.800 when you get to this level where you're that good 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.840 at something, so everybody feel like that that they can 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:53.600 tell you what's best for you. You know what I mean. 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.160 It's like even from the team that I want to 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:57.920 go to, to what I said from Twitter, It's just 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.960 like everybody gotta everybody feel like they know it's best. 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:04.600 I appreciate you, you know, but I got this. I'm 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:06.560 pretty good at being me. Yeah, I'm cool and I'm 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:08.440 pretty good. I'm talking to my fun outa here. You know, 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:10.519 sometimes you like fun? Can't you do it? What is 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.720 the last time I score the bucket? Church League? Team? Fun? 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.520 Did you like you got cut from the Boys and 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:20.359 Girls Club? Like, stop talking because it's just like, well 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:22.880 he should turn the other shoulder. He's bigger, Like no 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:25.560 one knows how it feels specially on your love would 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:29.160 have everyone attack a move you made. You took your 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:32.200 happiness in your own hand. Okay, see, I love you, 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.600 I appreciate everything happened. I'm gonna go funk with these 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.800 warriors and instantly you become the villain, you know what 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.360 I means. So to be able to have the strong 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.520 enough shoulders, to be able to take all the criticism, 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:45.720 and constantly it's still going on. I see if the 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:49.600 slander is ridiculous, you know what I mean? So I 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:52.160 mean people and me just being me and responding to 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:56.960 stuff and interacting with people. I think the reason why 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:58.400 all this ship is still going on. I think that 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.560 a lot of the media feel like they bullying me. 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.000 They want to bully me, and they feel like they 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.840 found a little crack or creasing in my armor and 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:09.079 they want to use that against me somehow, So they 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.960 continue and just regurgitate the same old story is the 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:17.360 same old storylines, and you know, recreate beefs with players 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.760 that former teammates, and it's just they blew everything out 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:23.440 of port, just like I see what you're doing. And 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:25.800 and that's the reason why I don't like the media 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:29.600 in the first place. Uh, And it's it's just if 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:31.640 the shoe fits. I'm not just grouping everybody in the 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:33.440 same thing. But it's just like it's a reason why 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.240 I don't funk with y'all. But I know what you're 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.200 trying to do. You know what I'm saying, You're not slick, 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.200 and you know when I call it out, I guess 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.000 something that sensitive guy. So now it's funny to say 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.080 that because we're both on the other side now, so 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.720 we see it. So I I take I think as 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:51.560 a player, we have a major responsibility. And I call 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:53.839 players on it too, because when Parks said that ship, 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.920 I'm just like, bro like, as former players, you know 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:00.000 what this ship is like. So don't let these motherfucker's 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.840 hype you up and just saying some ship. I mean so, 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:04.840 And we actually got into it a little bit of 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:06.800 back and forth because I said I said it on Twitter. 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:08.920 He hit me back on this ship and I knew 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.040 everyone wanted us to argue, so I d m him, like, Bryan, 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.280 got your number, but let's talk about this, you know 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:14.800 what I mean. So, but what I was saying was, 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:17.840 it's just like you can give Russ all the props 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.120 you want, but you ain't got a ship on him 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.679 in the process, Like I think today, like to show 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.080 love to one, you have to shoot on somebody else. 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:28.960 Exactly what I mean. Russell going back to Oklahoma City 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.640 was a great thing. But you knew that You're saying, 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.560 like I'm going to announce why Russell was the greatest 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:38.040 thunder player ever. You knew that was a divisive statement. 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.480 You knew that people would, Yeah, you knew people would 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.520 kind of like, oh, that's the shot at KD Like 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:45.200 you know that. So my whole thing is like you don't, 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:46.680 like you said, you don't have to do that. You 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.320 don't have to in order for you to praise russellho 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.560 gotta ship on me because that's what the fans and 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:53.720 that's what that's what they wanted meeting in Oklahoma City. 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:55.640 That's what they kind of like made their money off 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:58.160 of the last four years. It's shipping on me. So 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:01.320 like Perk, you just planning into that at because you 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:04.240 want a job and you want something notoriety in your profession. 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.960 But we were friends before this. We actually we actually 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:10.120 played basketball games before. It's like, I know your family, 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.720 so why are you trying to use that tactic against one? 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.200 Of your so called brothers. So that was my whole thing. 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.040 And then he called me out on Twitter to another 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.920 fan about us losing in the second round. I'm just like, 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.760 you're on the same team with me, and like you 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:27.479 started and you didn't play well, So like I wouldn't say, well, 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:29.240 Perk loss in the second round of myth is not 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:31.680 we all did, But don't call out a teammate like 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:36.280 we once a teammates, you always a teammates. So like, nah, 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.440 I ain't no need na because I know what his 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.760 whole thing is. I know what it's wrapped around. I 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.000 know it's bigger and deeper than just what he's saying 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.279 on Twitter or him you know, trying to prove a 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.159 point he got, you know, he want to do something 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.520 in his life and not get that. But I'm just 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.520 trying to let people know that I don't really deal 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:53.800 with Perk like that, and like when I when I 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:55.840 get asked by my stances like that's how I kind 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:59.440 of met you through Perk, and I'm like that should 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.440 have been handled a different way, Like even even if 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.200 you disagree to how you felt, he could have called 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.160 you and y'all gott have had a different kind of way. 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:07.240 That's when people ask about it, say, both of my 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.120 little brothers, I really don't want to get a ball 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.400 because they was brothers at one point there was potless 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.599 at one point deeper than yeah, you know what I mean. 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:16.599 So like he and I had a chance to talk 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:18.880 and we talked out I and gave the mutual respect. 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.039 But like to me as players that they are able 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.400 to cross over and they're letting us in this space 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.040 right now, Like I think what makes us amazing is 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.919 our and our authenticity. And none of these other motherfucker's 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:30.200 have ever been in the locker room and know what 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.839 it's like. They these motherfucker's up exactly, So we have 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:36.120 a certain responsibility to always g coded. Behind the scenes 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:38.080 is different, you know what I mean. I've heard bad experience, 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.039 I've seen some experiences. I know what my experiences and 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:42.440 it just kind of is what is. And the way 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.520 I look at these is just like if they want 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:46.360 to use me up for my game, I'm gonna use 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:51.880 that platform. Like and capitalized. They always got the end 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:53.719 the control. That's why it's good to have your own 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.640 media outlet. What you control your own there. You want 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.200 to tell your motherfucking story. Come to all the small yeah, 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:08.159 come yeah, Jack is like this. Damn yeah, we're out here. 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.920 Let's get back on track, man, Let's let's talk about 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:15.080 where you are right now in your recovery process. Yeah. Man, 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.240 I'm getting there. Man. It's been I don't even know 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:20.119 how many months has been, but I'm progressing. I'm getting 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:22.800 on the court. I'm starting some basketball stuff. Tired of 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:24.680 watch you hooping with nuts on them doing the games 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:34.400 on the court, doing nothing. But I'm working, man, every 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:36.679 single day, I'm working, and you know, I'm getting closer 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.880 and closer to being um, you know, back to myself 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:41.800 as much as I can. You know, it's a tough 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.560 ass injury. Man. It's frustrating every day just doing a 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.960 small ship. You know. I'm I just like to you know, 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:51.160 no hose bar, just go hoop. But you gotta prepare, 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:53.360 warm up, to warm up, to get ready for the 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:56.160 next thing. It's just like for me, somebody who doesn't 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:58.640 understand patience when it comes to this ship. It's tough. 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:00.640 How's it? How's it? Like? I know you and I 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:02.400 know how much you love the game, just you know, 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:04.480 sitting there and being away from the game dog. I 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.000 know that's driving even crazy more than any It's stressful, man, 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.280 it is, it is, you know, because I was on 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:11.360 a good pace, you know what I was playing with 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:13.720 twelve straight years of doing what I was doing. It 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.680 was like, you know, I felt like, I feel like 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:18.800 I hit Hall of Fame status early in my career 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:20.800 and I just want to keep addinging to it and 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.480 then just get a clean break like that. It's definitely 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:27.040 stopped momentum. But you know, as always, you just you 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.240 just you know, switch your focus a little bit and 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:32.720 and redirect your yourself and see what it goes from there. 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.400 But I learned so much in that in that time, 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.319 and I can kind of apply to this new phase. 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.440 So yes, that's what I want to ask you. What 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.439 have you learned like sitting there and watching your team 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:44.839 and where you can plug in and be your best. 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.199 I just just just playing in so many different positions 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:53.520 with the world. Yeah, I feel like it's like seven 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.000 the court I played. I played so many different roles 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:57.920 with the Warriors, and you know, I feel like, you know, 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.200 with the Thunder, I was just learning who I was 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.520 as a player, learning how to figure, I learned how 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:04.679 to score the NBA, learning how to just make basic 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:06.400 reason the NBA, and then I got to the War. 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.560 It's just like being innovative at real fast. You know 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.880 how we play, you know, backdoor cut when presented so fast, 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:15.000 you gotta make sure it's there or like we're never 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.440 playing some of that ship. So just learn on the 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:20.160 fly like that and just mixing those two combining those 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.560 two experiences together and bring them to the nets. You know. 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.520 I'm just looking forward to just stepping like you said, 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.160 just stepping out on the court and seeing how my 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.200 presence affects my teammates, you know what I mean, and 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:31.040 then seeing how they can put me in position to 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:34.080 be successful moving forward. Now. And I had a tough injury, 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:37.559 your presence as a presence, Yeah, I'm telling I'm anxious 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:41.520 to see that dynamic DJ and Kyrie. We're gonna get 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.920 chake me back to the finals. Yeah last year. And 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.560 I say sometimes as athletes, we need to be protected 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:53.920 from ourselves because at the end of the day, we 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.720 got that safe, you know what I mean. So you're 0:09:56.760 --> 0:10:00.640 on the brink of your third straight title, UM Finals 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.880 MVP the prior two years. Tell me where your mindset 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:06.840 was to come back and try to help your team 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.640 get over that hup. I mean, as I started getting healthy, 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:11.520 you I started, you know, having these pictures in my mind. 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:13.880 I wouldn't be like to come back from down three one. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:16.440 I know for a fact I was gonna get Finals 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:19.960 m VP. But seeing you know Steph get that moment. 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.640 I was looking forward to that or Clay, whoever it 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:25.040 was at that time I was looking for. I was 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.080 just picturing so much in my mind at that point 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.360 of just great things happening. If I stepped back on 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.839 the court and you know, started to turn that way 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:36.440 first year started, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:38.440 I could tell I can tell you know, when I 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.000 went back to the bench to confidence, my teammates had 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.400 the whole organization, Like I could look down and see, 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:47.000 you know, our fans and and E forty everybody just 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:50.360 had a sense of like man were back. And I 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.240 knew if the fans back in the bay was just 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.280 so excited that I was playing again, And you know, 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.280 it's just a life is crazy. You know, you can 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:58.120 be on that high so fast and then a matter 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.160 of seconds to go back down. I'm great for for 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:03.120 it is funked up that I had to go through it, 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:05.600 but I'm also grateful that I can experience it because 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:07.960 down the line, I can be able to speak on 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:09.839 how much it helped me as a player in the person. 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:14.120 What was it like once you went down, knowing you're down, 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:17.640 and then seeing Clay go down, and then the Raptors 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.920 winning a championship, knowing that should have been your guys, 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:24.040 third and brow. Yeah, it was rough. It was rough 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:27.200 because I feel like throughout the season we could have 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:30.160 definitely we could have locked in a little bit earlier 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.000 for the playoffs, and I feel and I feel like 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.520 and I feel like when we getting down to that moment, 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:37.560 it was just like, damn it, you know, having me 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:39.880 and play out and not not winning the championship out 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.520 the planning for so long, just like that's just that's 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:44.400 just how the gods work. That's just how the games 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.000 work sometimes. And it's just like, throughout the regular season, 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.560 I really wish that we'd have locked in a little 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.719 bit more, you know what I mean. It had a 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:53.840 little bit more game playing, a little bit more focused 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:57.040 going into the season, so that like it didn't have 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:58.559 to end that way, you know what I'm saying. It 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:00.600 is like we waited so long just in that moment 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:04.240 instead of like each game was important, you know, even 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:06.280 in the regular season, even in the first round, and like, 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.319 we waited for so long just for the finals and 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.520 it happened that way. It was it was like it 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.760 made me think about the whole season and as as 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:14.679 a whole. That's a gift in the curse, you know 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.080 what I mean, Because for them it was a five 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.680 year run. To know that, Bro, we're gonna be playing 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.760 until June every year. It's kind of a lot, you know, 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:27.320 that's a lot of basketball. And I didn't realize that until, 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.200 you know, until we started getting into the playoffs and 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.240 we play Houston and it was just like, Ship, this 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.240 is the third year of us making this run. It's tough, 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:38.760 and so two more years before that. I know mentally, 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.880 you know, training it's draining, and I got it, but 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:44.160 it was like, Ship, it's right in our hands. It's 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.200 right there for us to get a three p It 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.719 hasn't happened in a while, so you know, it's that 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:50.800 It's that point where I was like, let's just lock 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:55.199 in and do it. Take me back to Oklahoma City 0:12:55.559 --> 0:13:03.760 up three one, losing the series, Warriors coming back and 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.240 beating you guys, and then is we're all the brunn 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.679 of this. I feel like happened. People were mad at 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:12.199 you were up to one bounced to your career and 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:15.040 your own and your happiness and your only losers didn't 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:17.599 understand that. Ye what you're fucking supposed to because the 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.120 business when they cut trade, wave whatever, it's the business. 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.520 But when we do it, it's a problem. You take 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:26.040 that to the West coast. Tell me what that transition 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.640 period like where you were the motherfucking be loved. You 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.280 were the next coming of who you mean, Like you said, 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:33.560 you're your Hall of Fame status earlier you were on 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:40.920 the way, so people like me and then Matternight changed it. 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:43.800 It was See the Warriors were so intriguing because I 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:47.040 always okay, see we played with I played with a 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:48.439 lot of athletes. I didn't play with a lot of 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.800 skill guys, not like shooters, drip ball handlers. So after 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:53.600 a while my game started to grow. I was like, 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.240 I need to change. This is before the season even started, 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:57.680 you know what I mean. It was like, I'm gonna 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.559 play out my last season as hard as I can, 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:02.839 and I'm not telling anybody I want to leave. I'm 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.360 not packing in. I'm trying to win as much as 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.280 we can and trying to end this out right. That 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:10.280 was my thinking going in before the year, and obviously 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.080 I had a few teams, but the Warriors as a 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:15.280 team I wanted to play for because you know, the 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.800 movement they had to pass and they let the league 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.320 and assist we Scott Bursts, my coach, That's all we 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.320 talked about is wanted to lead the league and assists 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.320 and so playing with you know that team, that's what 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.600 I was thinking about. So when we got to the playoffs, 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:30.920 it's just like, you know, let's see what happens. We 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:34.960 got a young team, we'd beat San Antonio and six, like, 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.640 that's a that's a great win. That's a great win 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.560 against the team I've been running through people all season, 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.040 and you know, Russell had to make big shots. I 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.960 had to make big shots. Andre Robinson came aloud, Dion 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:48.840 Way to start to play well. So I'm like, all right, 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.080 we get some momentum and this cantern was coming on. 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.640 Then we get to the Warriors. It's just whole different series. 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:56.920 You know, they're gonna sell out to stop me. Me 0:14:57.000 --> 0:15:01.360 and they're gonna leave Andre anybody, but but I would 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.080 leave and I'm just like in the house, and he 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:08.920 was in the kitchen. He was, it was, he was. 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:10.920 He was great for our team in that series because 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.960 he can guard. But he he knew that he wasn't 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.920 going to help us shooting threes, and everybody in the 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.520 world knew that. So and it's easy for the for 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:21.840 the teams to guard us when we got guys that 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.800 not gonna from the three, you know what I'm saying. 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.160 So I was tired of playing in that system. I 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.360 was tired of like having to be the only guy 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.720 that can makee threes, make jump shots, and consistently make them. 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.760 So my mind was already thinking about how can I 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.920 develop my game more so than like the Warriors versus 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.880 Thunder that robbery, Like even if that was a robber, 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:43.920 I didn't give a funk. I just wanted to keep 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:46.560 developing my game. And on top of that, we only 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.440 played him one time in the playoffs, so I didn't 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:52.000 really feel like a genuine, deep hateful the Warriors, you 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.800 know what I'm saying, Just like they're a new fresh team, 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.000 they on a rise. I funk with him and I'm 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.280 gonna play hard against him. I know some of their players. 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.160 It is with a is it's like San Antonio those 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:05.200 years when you was on the team. I didn't like yea, yeah, 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.800 Memphis and we played them. I didn't like Memphis at all. 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:10.840 Like those are the teams we've seen every year in 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:14.600 the playoffs, the Warriors, they were just like another team 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.840 to me. So me going in and playing for him, 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.120 it didn't matter if we'd have won or lost the series. 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:21.600 I wanted to play there and live in the Bay. 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.200 The Bay is it's like nothing else. I mean, the fans, 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:28.040 the opportunity, the love they shot me. They still love 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.440 you to death. Man, It's like a different culture. It's 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.520 not like it don't even feel like you like in California. 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:36.480 The Bay is just like it's like I can't even 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.080 explain it. It's just like being there I really felt. 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:41.720 I really felt like I stamped myself as a as 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:43.680 a legend in the Bay. I mean, like you look 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.000 at I'm not comparing myself to these guys, but guys 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:48.080 at one in the Bay like Jay Rice and Joe 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.480 Montaga historic. Yeah, I went back to back in the 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.640 Bay is like ship, Come on, man, forever. Yeah, that's forever. 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:56.520 I'm really proud of that. But tell me what it's 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:58.920 like when you go there, Because we were there with 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:00.840 one culture, and I got a chance to go back 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:04.520 and see that culture, and it was insane, just the 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.280 wanting to be there, that the energy starting at the 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.240 top of new ownership. You didn't see the old ownership 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:11.920 of the new ownership, and just the energy and how 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.239 those guys all funed with you, funk with each other, 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.840 and then if the chemistry carried on and off the court, 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:18.359 tell me it's like being involved in that. When I 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.240 first came to the league, the Warriors were like a 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:22.560 lading stock almost, you know what I'm saying, until y'all 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:26.080 came around and may and beat the mass. You know 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:28.360 what I'm saying. It was just like that team. That 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:32.119 team was like, all right, that's what the that's what 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:34.920 Oakland is about, you know what I'm saying. Great, Yeah, 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:38.240 that great, that grind with guys that on the basketball 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:41.240 court that can play any position, that played like us 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:46.080 before us really but you know, four or five small players, 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:50.080 you know, switching everything. Shoot, he's just hooping, playing playing 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.600 real back door, backyard basketball. But like once that team 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:55.600 was done. It was like in between and it was 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:59.399 just like Warriors, what is it? Yeah? What is it? Then? 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:01.800 What I'm saying, so that first year I got into 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:03.960 the league, and then right after that four or five 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:06.760 years after that, didn't have our identity and didn't see 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.480 the new ownership and then the build around Stephan Clay 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.280 just their personas and this their stories and how their 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.440 dad's played in the league, and it just it just 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:17.280 it just changed from like we got some inner city 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:21.160 kids who toughest, hell who who who? Who? Persona fied 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:23.480 what Oakland is about too, Like some guys are just 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.800 totally different, came up different. It was it's two totally 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.119 different fields with the game of basketball. Felt like it 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:31.080 was the same, you know what I'm saying, It was 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:33.679 it's just how we came up. You know, how you 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:36.000 came up, How you came up and the struggle and 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.960 and and Brian didn't get to your position not being 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.760 drafted early. Like people felt that, you know, they felt 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:43.719 like it was every guy on the team from Monte 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.359