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Speaker 1: Man, welcome back, episode fourteen. Coming to you from New

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Speaker 1: York or is coldish ship out here? Man? Do it? Man,

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Speaker 1: My brother Jack good to see to see my boy. Man.

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Speaker 1: We got the one and only appreciate you coming in. Man. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you're on the East coast, your East coast do man?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, man. Yeah, you started your career out here

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Speaker 1: man early year. Let's jump right into it. Man. Something

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Speaker 1: that I've always kind of been on your side with

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Speaker 1: because I'm one of these similar type people where social media,

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Speaker 1: I think people think because you can access anybody, you

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Speaker 1: could say anything you want to people, and you're someone that,

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Speaker 1: like I don't give a funk my status. I am him.

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Speaker 1: But if you disrespect me, I'm gonna come at you.

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Speaker 1: Tell me your thought process about that platform. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's really simple. It's not like I mean, I like Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I see something on there that I

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Speaker 1: want to respond to, I'm just gonna do it. It's

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Speaker 1: not like a predetermined thing. I just kind of see

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Speaker 1: scroll on it. I liked. I like the platform, and

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Speaker 1: any chance I get to give somebody a piece of

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Speaker 1: my brain, I want to do it. When you hear

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Speaker 1: people say like, well he's Kevin Durant, Why is he this?

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Speaker 1: Why is he that? Like? What is your what's your

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Speaker 1: response to that? I don't even know what that means.

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Speaker 1: Like you, yeah, like they hold you to a high standard,

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Speaker 1: but they respect all your opinions to be the same

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Speaker 1: way that they would think exactly. It's a problem if

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Speaker 1: if it's if they disagree with exactly. So, you know, everybody,

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Speaker 1: when you get to this level where you're that good

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Speaker 1: at something, so everybody feel like that that they can

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Speaker 1: tell you what's best for you. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's like even from the team that I want to

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Speaker 1: go to, to what I said from Twitter, It's just

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Speaker 1: like everybody gotta everybody feel like they know it's best.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, you know, but I got this. I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty good at being me. Yeah, I'm cool and I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty good. I'm talking to my fun outa here. You know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you like fun? Can't you do it? What is

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Speaker 1: the last time I score the bucket? Church League? Team? Fun?

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Speaker 1: Did you like you got cut from the Boys and

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Speaker 1: Girls Club? Like, stop talking because it's just like, well

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Speaker 1: he should turn the other shoulder. He's bigger, Like no

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Speaker 1: one knows how it feels specially on your love would

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Speaker 1: have everyone attack a move you made. You took your

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Speaker 1: happiness in your own hand. Okay, see, I love you,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate everything happened. I'm gonna go funk with these

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Speaker 1: warriors and instantly you become the villain, you know what

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Speaker 1: I means. So to be able to have the strong

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Speaker 1: and constantly it's still going on. I see if the

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Speaker 1: slander is ridiculous, you know what I mean? So I

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Speaker 1: mean people and me just being me and responding to

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Speaker 1: all this ship is still going on. I think that

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Speaker 1: a lot of the media feel like they bullying me.

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Speaker 1: They want to bully me, and they feel like they

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Speaker 1: found a little crack or creasing in my armor and

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Speaker 1: they want to use that against me somehow, So they

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Speaker 1: continue and just regurgitate the same old story is the

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Speaker 1: same old storylines, and you know, recreate beefs with players

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Speaker 1: that former teammates, and it's just they blew everything out

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Speaker 1: of port, just like I see what you're doing. And

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Speaker 1: and that's the reason why I don't like the media

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Speaker 1: in the first place. Uh, And it's it's just if

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Speaker 1: the shoe fits. I'm not just grouping everybody in the

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Speaker 1: same thing. But it's just like it's a reason why

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Speaker 1: I don't funk with y'all. But I know what you're

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Speaker 1: and you know when I call it out, I guess

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Speaker 1: something that sensitive guy. So now it's funny to say

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Speaker 1: we see it. So I I take I think as

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Speaker 1: a player, we have a major responsibility. And I call

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, bro like, as former players, you know

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Speaker 1: And we actually got into it a little bit of

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Speaker 1: He hit me back on this ship and I knew

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Speaker 1: everyone wanted us to argue, so I d m him, like, Bryan,

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Speaker 1: got your number, but let's talk about this, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. So, but what I was saying was,

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Speaker 1: it's just like you can give Russ all the props

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Speaker 1: you want, but you ain't got a ship on him

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Speaker 1: in the process, Like I think today, like to show

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Speaker 1: Exactly what I mean. Russell going back to Oklahoma City

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Speaker 1: was a great thing. But you knew that You're saying,

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Speaker 1: like I'm going to announce why Russell was the greatest

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Speaker 1: thunder player ever. You knew that was a divisive statement.

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Speaker 1: You knew that people would, Yeah, you knew people would

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Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, that's the shot at KD Like

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Speaker 1: you know that. So my whole thing is like you don't,

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Speaker 1: like you said, you don't have to do that. You

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Speaker 1: that's what that's what they wanted meeting in Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 1: That's what they kind of like made their money off

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Speaker 1: of the last four years. It's shipping on me. So

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Speaker 1: like Perk, you just planning into that at because you

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Speaker 1: want a job and you want something notoriety in your profession.

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Speaker 1: But we were friends before this. We actually we actually

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Speaker 1: played basketball games before. It's like, I know your family,

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Speaker 1: so why are you trying to use that tactic against one?

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Speaker 1: Of your so called brothers. So that was my whole thing.

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Speaker 1: And then he called me out on Twitter to another

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Speaker 1: fan about us losing in the second round. I'm just like,

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Speaker 1: Perk loss in the second round of myth is not

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Speaker 1: we all did, But don't call out a teammate like

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Speaker 1: we once a teammates, you always a teammates. So like, nah,

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Speaker 1: I ain't no need na because I know what his

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Speaker 1: That's when people ask about it, say, both of my

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Speaker 1: because they was brothers at one point there was potless

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Speaker 1: So like he and I had a chance to talk

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Speaker 1: But like to me as players that they are able

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Speaker 1: it just kind of is what is. And the way

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Speaker 1: that platform. Like and capitalized. They always got the end

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Speaker 1: the control. That's why it's good to have your own

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Speaker 1: media outlet. What you control your own there. You want

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Speaker 1: come yeah, Jack is like this. Damn yeah, we're out here.

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Speaker 1: Let's get back on track, man, Let's let's talk about

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Speaker 1: where you are right now in your recovery process. Yeah. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting there. Man. It's been I don't even know

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Speaker 1: as much as I can. You know, it's a tough

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Speaker 1: next thing. It's just like for me, somebody who doesn't

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Speaker 1: How's it? How's it? Like? I know you and I

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Speaker 1: But I learned so much in that in that time,

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Speaker 1: So yes, that's what I want to ask you. What

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Speaker 1: I just just just playing in so many different positions

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Speaker 1: the court I played. I played so many different roles

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Speaker 1: It's just like being innovative at real fast. You know

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Speaker 1: how we play, you know, backdoor cut when presented so fast,

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Speaker 1: you gotta make sure it's there or like we're never

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking forward to just stepping like you said,

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Speaker 1: your presence as a presence, Yeah, I'm telling I'm anxious

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Speaker 1: to see that dynamic DJ and Kyrie. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: chake me back to the finals. Yeah last year. And

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Speaker 1: I say sometimes as athletes, we need to be protected

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Speaker 1: got that safe, you know what I mean. So you're

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Speaker 1: MVP the prior two years. Tell me where your mindset

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Speaker 1: court and I'm gonna shoot the shot. The whole world

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00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,160
Speaker 1: thinking that, not just you, everybody thinking come off the pill,

427
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,199
Speaker 1: my nigger. I thought you would come off the rock

428
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:06,879
Speaker 1: right there. Everybody in the world knew he supposed to

429
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 1: come off the road. Everybody knew that, and we all

430
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,879
Speaker 1: figured that that would happen, and then when it didn't,

431
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,640
Speaker 1: I was kind of shocked. And then I was just like, oh, Drey,

432
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 1: like let me see that. You know what I'm saying,

433
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Like what you're doing? And then

434
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 1: he turned it over like I'm just so confused at

435
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 1: that point because he never ever did nothing like that before,

436
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,400
Speaker 1: and everybody on the bench was confused too. And then

437
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 1: we came back. Then I just heard him screaming, and

438
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,880
Speaker 1: then I was like, hold up, and he usually screaming

439
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 1: when he comes back to the bench, but what is

440
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 1: he saying? Then he started going off, and I'm just like,

441
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 1: maybe it's because I was like fucking pissed that he

442
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 1: didn't give me the rock, because I didn't say nothing.

443
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,479
Speaker 1: It was just in my body length. I was just

444
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:46,719
Speaker 1: clapping it, just like Clay had Clay was piste. Clay pissed, like,

445
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to us to rock. You know, you

446
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 1: can't hit the house in the kitchen either. He us

447
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 1: the rock and letters shoot the bit so man. Then

448
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 1: he started coming off the top with all of that stuff,

449
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 1: and I'm just thinking, I'm like, Draymond was actually my friend,

450
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 1: like somebody I can call and I'm going through anything

451
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 1: like yo, bro come through, like bro, let's hang out

452
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 1: tonight like and for him to say that type of

453
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 1: ship to me, it's just stooped me for a loop.

454
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 1: And it just really I just started isolating myself after

455
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: that because I didn't feel like, you know, they suspended

456
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,639
Speaker 1: Draymond and it's just like they had to so it

457
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,640
Speaker 1: won't look bad to everybody else. And then nobody talked

458
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: to me about it or really like we never really

459
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 1: came to an agreement that we didn't even we didn't

460
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: even voice O. Nobody hasn't hold because it happened in

461
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 1: front of the whole team, and nobody really talked about it.

462
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,360
Speaker 1: We just swept under the rug. And to me, it's

463
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 1: just like we're a family, were posted like even if

464
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 1: he said that we can move past it. Let's all

465
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 1: talk about it. Let's just say how we all felt

466
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 1: about that moment, because that's a huge moment in this

467
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: whole dynasty. Like you know what I mean, don't just

468
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: sweeping under the rug because we want to win. That's

469
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 1: the reason why we're not gonna win, you know what

470
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 1: I mean. So I was like, let's just all talk

471
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 1: about this. It's not that big of a deal, like

472
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: just put out on the table. We can move past it.

473
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 1: And when that didn't happen, now just like fuck it,

474
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 1: let me just hoop worry about myself, and we went on.

475
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: We'll see that. I think that probably hurt y'all because

476
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: if you A would have came out and he would

477
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 1: have heard more people saying, Bro, you should have passed

478
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: the ball, Bro, you should have passed the ball, I

479
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: think he would have came outside of himself and realized, like,

480
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 1: you know what made I overreacting? Yeah, he never got

481
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: a chance to say that. Yeah, I mean Draymond. We

482
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 1: all know what Draymond is. And it's like, it's not

483
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: it's fine that you can that you want to do

484
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 1: that and you want to show your emotions and when

485
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 1: when you sleep, that's fine, But when it's over the

486
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: line sometime, let's just talk about it so next time

487
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 1: you can tend to tone it down just a bit.

488
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: And I feel like we didn't had an opportunity to

489
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 1: do so because we were so focused on trying to

490
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 1: just move forward and win. And I get that too,

491
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: But it's like if we're a family and we're gonna

492
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: ash it out and then we're gonna move forward to yeah,

493
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,959
Speaker 1: we we didn't want two chips together bigger, like this

494
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 1: is just some ship we can sit down and talk about.

495
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: Certain words gonna come out to like we brothers and

496
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: I got into it. I got the fist fights my

497
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: brothers with certain words. You don't say, you know what

498
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Certain words you they're saying. You know when

499
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: that line is Well, I think he realized that too.

500
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, I think us know what.

501
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 1: We we all know. My think he realized he funked

502
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 1: up in. But that's what kind of dude is. But

503
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 1: that even makes the point more like, let's motherfucker's sit

504
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 1: down have and really talk about this all of us.

505
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: Me and him sat down and talked about it, and

506
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: we kind of, you know, I gave him my piece

507
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: on it. He told me how he felt on it.

508
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 1: But I'm like, it happened in front of the whole team.

509
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: That's everybody, So everybody got to talk about because everybody

510
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: fun with each other. It wasn't like he was forcing it.

511
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 1: Everybody really fun with each other, you know what I mean.

512
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 1: So let's sit down. And then again, everybody was thinking

513
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,719
Speaker 1: you were passing the bro and they just they just

514
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: played everybody in the world. I thought you was coming

515
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: over Rock and you was wrong. Just to met you

516
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: was wrong. That's and that's what and that's the whole thing.

517
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: I think. I think that he had too much pride

518
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: and the fact that he turned it over and that

519
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: made him react that way. Yeah, but we know ship

520
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: turnovers happening on the team. Nobody really cared if we

521
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: want to lost that game in the first place. It

522
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: was just like we, I mean, we're in that situation.

523
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: Let's just go ahead, trying to finish it the right way,

524
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: you know. But at the end, they nobody really cared

525
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: about that win on loss, you know what I'm saying.

526
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: But this too great coaches, when you don't get a

527
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: shot at the end of the game like that, they'd

528
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: be pissed. Greg Papovich, he he'll sit your ads down

529
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: the whole game if you funk up a play coming

530
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: out of time, I don't get a shot up at

531
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: the each Oh yeah, I mean ship that wou'd make

532
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: anybody piss over game. I think the media kind of

533
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: saw that as an entry way to kind of start

534
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: dividing the The motherfucker's are so good. What can we

535
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: start doing? What can we start developing to to chink

536
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: this armor? And I got it like I was only

537
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: there with y'all for three months, but I always saw

538
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: to me when I looked like, I was like, this

539
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 1: is this some cold ship? Man? The media is cold. Man.

540
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: You paid attention to these motherfucker's. They're telling you what

541
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 1: they're doing right in front of your face, but you

542
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 1: can't do nothing because they blamor that ship up and

543
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: put a ball on it. It was always to me

544
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: k D and the Warriors. It was never the Warriors.

545
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: Kevin Durans a part of that team, and I was

546
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: looking at it was like, hold up, so d West

547
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,479
Speaker 1: came the same time I came, But he's a Warrior

548
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: and I'm not. They no sense. JaVale McGee the same

549
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: way like he's award like Ian Clark, he was there

550
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: before me, but he laughed. He didn't win the second

551
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: championship with us, but he's like and it made no

552
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: sense to me. And I'm like, the media is just

553
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 1: trying so hard to separate this staying just like, yeah,

554
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: for what, Like you didn't do that with Lebron and

555
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 1: in the Wade and Bought. You didn't do that with

556
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: those guys. Didn't do that with KG and Paul Pierson.

557
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: You didn't trying to separate them. It's like, oh, why

558
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: is it? Why are you trying to separate me from

559
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: the rest of the team, And you actually are making

560
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: this your job, your duty to do so is to

561
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: push this narrative every day. People call me while for

562
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: calling it out, but I'm just like, no, I think

563
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: it's corny. It is what it is. In fact, you

564
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: speak on and make sure, like you said, the fact,

565
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: you speak on the bullshit and you see it, you're bad.

566
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. It was just like, I'm exactly this person.

567
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: But I'm just supposed to Yeah, I'm one of the

568
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: greatest players ever to play. I'm just supposed to let

569
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,959
Speaker 1: it go what you want me to do because you're

570
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: supposed to be messengers to the fans, and they're looking

571
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: at y'all. Y'all can easily like brainwash people with you'll

572
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: bullshit and it's not about you. You immediately got nobody

573
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: here is about you. It's not about you. It's about

574
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: you go out of it trying to put your whole

575
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: style and flare on something that got nothing to do

576
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: with you. This game gonna be here before, this game

577
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: was here before you is gonna be here way outter you.

578
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: So nobody cares about you. They don't care about me

579
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: that much. In forty years, fifty years, they're gonna lose

580
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: that next thing, you know, like get out the win.

581
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: That's why it's so important now because you think back

582
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: in the day pre social media, whatever they put out

583
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: is the truth, and we never had a platform, you

584
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So that's why I love it

585
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: when you're out here. I didn't like to use the

586
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: burner fe I would have said, Kevin to grand motherfucker,

587
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cush you out. You talk some ship. I'm

588
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 1: gonna talk some ship. I'm gonna speak my mind. I'm

589
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: still gonna do the burner thing. I'm still still on it. Yeah,

590
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: it's some ship that you just gotta But I'm saying,

591
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: but I'm saying, bro, I'm saying, if I'm you, like

592
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: you know, if you come from me, I'm coming back.

593
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: So certain people, I'm gonna come back on my regular account.

594
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: But if I'm trying to do my thing, it's like

595
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: I got the burners feel out there. I just stepped

596
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: up that one time I slipped though, So talk to

597
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: me about when you When did you know that your

598
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: time and going the state was up? I mean I knew.

599
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: I knew just about halfway pointing through the year. I

600
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: mean I just I could feel that, I could feel like,

601
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's a separation between the two. It feel

602
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: like everybody was just waiting on me to make a

603
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: decision on free agency, even you know, from the coaches

604
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: to my teammates to the media. It's like everything throughout

605
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: the KD like what you're gonna do. It's like January

606
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, I'm just trying to hoop.

607
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: That's all I want to do is play basketball every day.

608
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: I came in every single day and kept my head down.

609
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: I didn't say much. I wasn't too excited about much.

610
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: So my coaches and my teammates thought something was wrong

611
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,479
Speaker 1: with me, but I was just like, I'm really focused

612
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: on the end goal, which was the win the third

613
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: championship a row. And my methods may not like be

614
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: welcoming to other people, but it's just how I do things,

615
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, how I approached the game.

616
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: And but for the most part, I really enjoyed my

617
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: time there. I learned a lot about myself. I learned

618
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: a lot about the game of basketball, a lot about

619
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: teamwork and camaraderie that I didn't know. I learned about coaching.

620
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: I learned about we've been in a new arena. I

621
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: learned about the business side of the game. Like having

622
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: dinners with Rick Wolkes was like fucking phenomenal to me.

623
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: Like me and Bob were like this, We still like

624
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: this to this day, The respect that I got for

625
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: Steph and Clay, Like We're gonna be one day and

626
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: be fucking playing golf with stuff at some point in

627
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: my life talking about these three years that like that

628
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: that run that we had in debate, Like I'm not

629
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: the one that like how to grudge or be mad

630
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: or just or not even talk about what we did.

631
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: It's gonna always be on the topic of conversation. Everything

632
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: that I learned and go to the state is always

633
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: gonna be at the top of my mind when I'm

634
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: talking basketball. Don't matter if I play there or not.

635
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: I just happened to want to play for another team.

636
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: It just is what it is. We did you ever

637
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: consider anywhere else? Uh? Not really? I looked at other places,

638
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: like the Clippers, and I mean I took a peek

639
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: at the Knicks, you know, like just because you know,

640
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: just to do my due diligence, but like, I really

641
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: wanted to play for the Black and White. I like

642
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: the brand. I like Brooklyn was a new, up and

643
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: coming city that needed some new flare, uh you know,

644
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: new basketball injection because being in Oklahoma City, I know

645
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: that was like having a new franchise around. So I'm like, uh,

646
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, I was excited about hopefully doing something like

647
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: that again in Brooklyn, you know, with the new team

648
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: playing with Kyrie Irvan who's from Jersey and got that

649
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: tied with the Jersey side of things. So I'm like,

650
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: we could bring its Like it's like we gotta we

651
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: had a solid thing going, you know what I'm saying,

652
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: and you know, Sean Marx, who was a young GM

653
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: up and coming young team that had some experience a

654
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: little bit in the playoffs, it just kind of all

655
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: worked out. And and having a couple of trainers and

656
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,479
Speaker 1: you know how that goes coaches that I worked with

657
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: and okay, see worked with you know, throughout my time

658
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: in the league. They just all, you know, felt like

659
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: they migrated to the nets and you know, yeah, it

660
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: just it just felt like it was perfect. Talk about

661
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: how it came about to become a Kyrie and then

662
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: to have DJ join you, how did that? How was

663
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: that orchestrating? However, conversations with Kyrie for the last two years,

664
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: you know, not even about playing together, but just yeah,

665
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: just brothers. And you know, we didn't plan on playing together.

666
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: We played each other and couple my second year with

667
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: the Warriors, and we had a mutual friend and we

668
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: had some wine together and we just bonded on just

669
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: life in general and and basketball in general. And that's

670
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: just form. And over time his situation he didn't like

671
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: what his situation was at and me either, and go

672
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: to State and then's just like, hey man, that's just

673
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: to see how this will work. Let's try it out.

674
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: And DJ wanted to play with us to be you know,

675
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: he wanted to know I just played be that center

676
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: forward that can kind of hold it down and you know,

677
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: play for something, really play for a team that's going

678
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: somewhere and not just keep moving around and bouncing around

679
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: the league. So we knew would be a vital piece

680
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: for is going forward, not even just as a star,

681
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: but you know, you know, so it just worked out.

682
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: Talk about your relationship with Kyrie, Like as far as

683
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: what you think you guys will be on the court,

684
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you have people don't understand how important chemistry is. So,

685
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: like you said, you're developing that real friendship already. So

686
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: then when you go like Jack was my brother so

687
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: on the court, I'm gonna run through a motherfucker off

688
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: for So you just know what you have off the court,

689
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: imagine what it's going to be like on the court. Yeah. Man,

690
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: that's the thing. I mean, we both want to challenge

691
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: each other. You know, we don't agree on everything. You know,

692
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to. Yeah, exactly. You know how brothers

693
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: ares like when I see him out there, I feel

694
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: like he could be doing more. I'm gonna let him

695
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: know when he feels like now, I can't. You don't

696
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: know what I what I see and feel out there.

697
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: I understand that too. But my thing with Kyrie is

698
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let him be who he is. He's

699
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: a pure artist of the game, and he's proving himself

700
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: on the biggest stage and in my opinion, made the

701
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: biggest shot of all time. So for somebody like that,

702
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: I can't tell him what to do, you know, I'm

703
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: just gonna kind of work with him and see how

704
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: we can come together and make this thing work for

705
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: the whole group. But he's somebody that can control and

706
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: take over a game. Incredible that he's just about anybody

707
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: who's ever played. So a lot of people want to

708
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: talk about who he is at his mentality, but if

709
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: you just watch him on the basketball court, you can't

710
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: deny it makes you feel what you're watching play now,

711
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: knowing that you're growing as a player, growing in your mentality,

712
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: your approach. When you hear him say that off the

713
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: wall ship, even though what some of what he said

714
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: is true to me, I think you take that to management.

715
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: But when you put it to the media and you

716
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: let the media start cracking and doing what the media does.

717
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on that being an older player

718
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: seeing that now? But you know him, no, like you

719
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: know him so you know exactly what. He from a

720
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: good place, you know what I mean. You have to

721
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: be in that type of ship. Exactly what he's saying.

722
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: It's not malicious. But I hadn't been around to him.

723
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: I didn't. There was some bullshit ass motherfucker's on my team,

724
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And sometimes they don't understand

725
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: what the coach saying. So sometimes you gotta either be

726
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: little him in the media or just attacked him personally,

727
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, if you want to win,

728
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: or just be sorry that the I just think I

729
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: just think Kyrie just I mean, I didn't care. I

730
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: don't think anybody on our team did. I mean, yeah,

731
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think anybody cared like man

732
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: like because everybody see what who Kyrie is. That's a

733
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: challenge to me. Yeah, like yeah, anything, yeah, if anything,

734
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure they looked at it that way. But we

735
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,719
Speaker 1: know Kyrie. So every day when he comes in like

736
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: he doesn't he doesn't look too He's not a dick

737
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: in the locker room, like he's just he's a solid

738
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: as teammate. He's not doing too much, he's not He's

739
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: doing just enough as a teammate. So with him saying that,

740
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: just like he cared about what this group is going,

741
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: That's how I looked at it, and our teammates, you know,

742
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: all everybody on the team, we just just kept it

743
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: pushing because we know what the media is about. We

744
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: know people just don't like Kyrie as a person. So

745
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: whatever he said, it's gonna be blown up and it's

746
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: gonna look like he's being a bad teammate because that's

747
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: his his rap. We get it. We know. It's not

748
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: like it's not like you're saying something that that's new,

749
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: like Kyrie is a shitty teammate. Of course you're gonna

750
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: say that, But I don't we don't see that. I

751
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: don't see that. Nobody's never heard one of his teammates

752
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: say that. One never. It's just his methods and how

753
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: he talks to the media is different than different the

754
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: rest of the guys in the league. And you can't,

755
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: like I said that, media got such a huge platform

756
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: that they can pretty much brainwash people to think and

757
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: Kyrie is a horrible person because they don't like how

758
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: he talks to them. Like I said, it ain't about y'all.

759
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: What's the vibe in the relationship. Like with the young

760
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: the Vert, then with the Harris all good young talent

761
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: to do you guys got Yeah, I'm just think of

762
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: the group a little bird. We call him Vert. But man,

763
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: we at this point, these guys understand what what is,

764
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: what's coming right, what the expectations are for us as

765
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: a group. We're having a championship mentality. You know, I'm

766
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: not saying we're guaranteeing no chip, but we're gonna get

767
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: there easy. But we know when we step on that court,

768
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: are you know, uh, we gotta come with that DNA.

769
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: Every play has to be championship mentality. Every movement that

770
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: we make, every scout report that we go over has

771
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: to be looked at it as as if there's a

772
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: championship mentality. It's a process, and we know how tough

773
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: that is every single day. So I think everybody on

774
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: our team is getting used to that. And at the

775
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: same time, we're struggling sometimes and we have our ups

776
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: and downs. But I think all these young dudes getting

777
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: some great experience. I don't want calling all these all

778
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: all my teammates are getting a great experience, and and

779
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: no one is liked to have two guys that can that.

780
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: They're just waiting, you know, especially me, you know, coming

781
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: and not playing like they know that. Once I get

782
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: out on the court, things are going. Yeah. People are

783
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: gonna be started putting that be in that right positions.

784
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: We're gonna start to figure out what the team looks like.

785
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: So I think everybody just patient. I'm getting out of patience.

786
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 1: But I'm being paid too. I can't wait to see

787
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: you DJ and Carrie together, how that dynamic? I I

788
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: just think, you know, I've always any time I see it,

789
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: I think the plate of a certain play with a

790
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: pick and roll with you and DJ and he rolling

791
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: you coming out of the corner. How can you stop?

792
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: That's how Bread and Knight an That's how Bread and

793
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:34,479
Speaker 1: Knight died the same time. And Knight died. You see

794
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: that now that we're talking about that. So I was

795
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: the dude in the corner. So just imagine this. I

796
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: was in the corner. So Brandon Knight came off me

797
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: to try to stop. And if you see me, I'm

798
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 1: in the bottom left corner. I jumped up and down,

799
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: cover my face, and I take off running like I'm

800
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: not gonna be witnessing. It's murder, bro. These cops are

801
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: not about the question about what this motherfucker just did that.

802
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: That man, it was the sickest ever. Yeah, that has

803
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: to be ever. I mean, bron got Jackson Terry and

804
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: that was sucked up to show the blaze here first,

805
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: but he gaptized. Yeah, they both Brandon knife. His legs

806
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: was in the air after that was like DJ came

807
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. He's a freak fucking athlete, bro. So

808
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: I mean you know, I mean super strung. He's a

809
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,959
Speaker 1: perfect like you said, plug and play dude. He's gonna

810
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: play his role. He talks on defense, ultimate teammate, funny

811
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: good dude, thinks he's a black hippie like he fits

812
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: in perfect. So I'm excited to see. Like you said,

813
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: we gotta be patient. You know, coming next year, it's

814
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: gonna be a blast year. Tell me what it's like

815
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: you you know you're at East Coast, dude. Tell me

816
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: what it's like to be in a big city now

817
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: in New York and living in business and just the

818
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: energy that is around this city as as definitely big

819
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: as rats. I don't I know you've seen one of them. Man,

820
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 1: what it's definitely different. I like being here. I actually

821
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: love it because it's it's it's so much going on

822
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: and it's just so fast paced. You know, coming from

823
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: California the least years and in Oklahoma and everybody in

824
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: California's high exactly. It just feel like it's NonStop. MG. Here.

825
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: I like getting up and going outside the seeing so

826
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: many people moving around and get into some way, you

827
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's dope being here. What

828
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: have you been doing? I mean, you've got a lot

829
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: of goddamn off time now, Like, what are you doing

830
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: off the court outside of rehabing your ass off? Making

831
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: some dope ass shoes. Man, that's brother, that's really what

832
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: I need. You know, we're gonna saying that second. Be fair.

833
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: I've just been I mean, I hang out with friends

834
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: just you know, it's like living a living the city life.

835
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,479
Speaker 1: I guess you know you what you're doing around the corner.

836
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm pulling up to go grab some of the eagle.

837
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: You have a drink, go to the bar, Like it's

838
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: just the city life. I guess you know. I've just

839
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: been ran into any bad celebrity chicks out here. Yeah, no,

840
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: no ship, I need to come out. You need to.

841
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: We need to stroll around a little bit. I'm with

842
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: k D' nobody I can get not give her a

843
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: k D? What do you think think about the you know,

844
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: the piste off Knicks fans and you didn't Everyone thought like,

845
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: imagine Katie going to the Knicks and this is and this,

846
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: But you took the other round, everybody, you know what

847
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you took the other route. So what do

848
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: you think about the fans are just like, that's the

849
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: media hyping that ship up. Man. I never came out

850
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: and said anything about me wanting to play for the Knicks. Ever,

851
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: I was paid advertising. Ever they to say that we

852
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: know how to go now me I never said. And

853
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: then when we came here last year, they had the

854
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: billboards up and somebody asked me about it, and I

855
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: wasn't too excited about it because I didn't like I

856
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: didn't like it, you know what I'm saying. It wasn't

857
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: I got something against the Knicks. I just didn't like

858
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: all that attention when I was playing for another team.

859
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: So like I never really was big on that New

860
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: York thing. It was just everybody else, you know, the

861
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: media and the fans and obviously the New York Knicks fans,

862
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: and you know, they wanted a superstar to come play

863
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: for them finally. But I never promised anybody I was

864
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: playing for the Knicks. It was just all these stories

865
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: that people like to read. So if they piste off,

866
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: this is just you shouldn't be piste off at me.

867
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: Just the people that you know ship that you're reading,

868
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: those people who wrote that ship, they hyped you up.

869
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: It's easy. It's easy to be mad. Let's let's go

870
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: back to the beginning of your career with you, Russ

871
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: and James. That mers Oh fucking believable. Tell me what

872
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: that was like when y'all first kind of finally came

873
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: together and started clicking. I mean we didn't get enough time.

874
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows, who knows who could have been?

875
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: Didn't author you guys play together three years long enough

876
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: to ruin my second ring? Oh yeah, because y're supposed

877
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: to get that one that was supposed to be the

878
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: first Miami we got. We got up to old y'all

879
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 1: and something click and Rush's starts James, James two, James,

880
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: the one on the road because Man Runs already had us.

881
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: We had a cook those rooms down to open. James

882
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: came along after that, and then we started switching all

883
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: y'all ship, taking y'all all y'all ship then, and Tony

884
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: Parker wanted to save the damn fun the whole ship

885
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: off as usual. Tony Parker had twenty and ten in

886
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: the first half in game six, how many turnovers he had,

887
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: and then after that he was done. He was trying

888
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: to get the m v P. And then that's when

889
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: you didn't miss a shot in game six, and then

890
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: couldn't get the pay after that, couldn't get the rockers,

891
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: could get the rock and just what I remember, not

892
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: only was I was getting the rock, he was killing

893
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: and Mom's was over there in my ear, the hold

894
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: him killing kill, the talk bad to me, your Motherfuck.

895
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: We lost that game. That had been tough, beating you

896
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: all at home. Game seven, that's what we was trying

897
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: to least get to a game seven, US up seventeen

898
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: in the first half. I'm like, oh, ship, we might

899
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: not get to the finals. We're sucking around. But when

900
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: we I mean that team. We were so young and dynamic,

901
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 1: and we right when we hit our like we're starting

902
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: to get to her peek with Trey James. So we

903
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: didn't really get a chance to see how how good

904
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: we've the guy, because that next year we was hungry.

905
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: We was hungry to get back to that chip. Like

906
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: we didn't care about nothing else but getting back to

907
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: that chip. And that's in preseason like we were. You know,

908
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 1: in the first few training camp practices, you could tell

909
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: it was a different energy and then boom, all it

910
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: took with you not to sign one of them, big man,

911
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: y'all could have kept James, you know all it took

912
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: for us to just sign them, just kept everybody and

913
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: just give his motherfucking money because you knew he was

914
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 1: gonna at least news, at least get back, at least

915
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: at least making a robbery with the heat, you know

916
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And then after and then when they

917
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: have fizzled out, then right, it was your time. What's

918
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: your relationship like with these guys now? You know, I mean,

919
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: they wanted to make us so much. You and rest

920
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: didn't get along. James is going you laugh, Russ is like,

921
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: what's the relationship like with you guys though, because I'm

922
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: sure it's different than what everyone thinks. Russ just separately.

923
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's cool. I mean it's it's not like

924
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: it used to be like when we were you know,

925
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: talked everything. I mean, it's more professionals, and these dudes

926
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: got their own lives, they got family, they got kids.

927
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: Well Russ got kids. Don't know about James. Maybe a

928
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: couple might. Yeah, but you know, everybody living their separate lives. Man.

929
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: You know you didn't with really three lives. Three stars

930
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: in the league, you know, their own brands. These guys

931
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: are traveling all summer and yeah, m vps. So it's

932
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: like we're gonna a guard separate ways. But there's always

933
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: respect because we you know, it was like when we

934
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: all didn't had this notoriety, we didn't have this type

935
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: of you know, accolades in the game. We was around

936
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: each other when it was we really had nothing in

937
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: it as NBA players, we had to start from scratch.

938
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: So it's it's fun seeing seeing how how big we

939
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: all made, us made this thing, you know what I'm saying,

940
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: Because we envisioned that as youngsters, and and that's what

941
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: I was about to say that. I said, one thing

942
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: y'all do have in common is y'all all know what

943
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: it takes to be great. You know what I'm saying.

944
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: I think that's one thing to always keep y'all with respect.

945
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: When you think about three courting and they all went

946
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: on them to be m v P, like that's it's crazy,

947
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? When they all started, you

948
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like what if? What if? Yeah?

949
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: They just met saying Swiss, switch damn right switch again. Yeah,

950
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean you're getting switched onto three. Of the best

951
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: thing is with James though and Russ. They would eventually

952
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: had to figure out how James could be a starter

953
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: because we struggled when James started for US. I remember

954
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: when we played job one time and um James started RUSS.

955
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: James and me were one, two and three, and it

956
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: just didn't work, you know what I'm saying. It was

957
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: better when James had the command of the second unit.

958
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: So eventually we had to figure out if we James

959
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: would become a starter, if he was gonna stand at

960
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: Janogli Road, which was way too small for him, right yeah,

961
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: way more time out on the court and way more

962
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: you know, way more controller ship. So who knows how

963
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: that work, you know what I mean, But it worked

964
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: out perfectly and perfectly individually for us. All that's what

965
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: it's about. If you take a look in your career, man,

966
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: you've played with some of the greatest point guards ever.

967
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: Russ Steph, you're gonna play with Kyrie. Talk about that, James, James,

968
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean, league guards is just something always gravitated stars,

969
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: even as a kid. You know, my best friend on

970
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: the team was the point guards every stop. You know,

971
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm from middle school to high school. You know, me

972
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: and Taiwana loss in with like this, you know what

973
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying, roommates everywhere. You know, me and DJ Augustine

974
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: still brothers to this day. So always like as a score,

975
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: you know, somebody that's gonna get you that pill, like

976
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: we home me from day one. So I always always

977
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: enjoyed League Guards and I always felt like I wanted

978
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: to play like them, you know, I wanted to seven. Yeah,

979
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 1: I wanted to be able to go through the lane

980
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: like rusting. And you know I took stuff from him,

981
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: Steph obviously, the way how quickly shoes three and his

982
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: handling him get to the cup as a little guy

983
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: like I admire all of that ship about point guards

984
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: more so than anybody else on the floor, because they

985
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: gotta be leaders. They gotta defend the hardest position. They

986
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: gotta make sure everybody getting their shots. So like, I

987
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: just had major respect for guards. Tell me who was

988
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: some of the best teammates you ever played with? Course,

989
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: now we only got three months fund up. Thing about

990
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: not the part about it is, So I go to

991
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: Golden State, I'm in the boogie ship and they trade boogie.

992
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna make the playoffs, play the Warriors,

993
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: probably gets smacked, but we're putting Sacrament back on the map.

994
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: They trade boogie. I'm like, I can't do what I'm old.

995
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta make a move. So I'm talking

996
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: to Draymond every single day. I'm talking to Clay Steph.

997
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: They're talking to Bob. We want to but we might

998
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: need another point guard. So it's back and forth, you

999
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then all of a sudden,

1000
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: I'm working around working out with my kids and we

1001
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: go to KFC and Steve hits me like, man, we

1002
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: just lost we lost Kevin tonight. Uh, we we need you,

1003
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: you know. So I come in. They plugged me in,

1004
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: but you made fun of me of the Step ship

1005
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: when I you know, I slipt, but I come in.

1006
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: I played my first game. We're rolling his first game back,

1007
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: like I almost break my ankle, and I'm pretty much done.

1008
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: So we never got the chance to play together on

1009
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: the floor. And that had been a nice, nice calm

1010
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: because we and then you Draymond step and Clay and

1011
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: y'all wouldn't have to teach him. He used to, Yeah,

1012
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: that's the selfish. We felt like him and were like

1013
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: I would say, we're interchangeable. It's like ship, it's two

1014
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: different dynamics. We can get andre that can kind of

1015
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,959
Speaker 1: be the athletic fly make the passes and and also

1016
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: switch everything. And then Matt was like more still rebound,

1017
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: get your tip bounds and hit the three. And I

1018
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: felt like, funk, We're really about to sweeping all of

1019
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: this ship. And then I got hurt. Then you hurt,

1020
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: and I never, like I tell people one time, my

1021
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: missle was when I get suspended, like I'm going into

1022
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: the playoffs, I got a chance to win a ring. Finally,

1023
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: I know my career is coming. You know, I'm on

1024
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: my back nine and Katie's back, So I'm juice. I

1025
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: come out here my first two threes, and I then

1026
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: I go up and I land on someone's ankle. Bro,

1027
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: when I tell you my ankle exploded, you ran back

1028
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: to the locker rounds like damn. I tried my hardest too.

1029
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: I was smoking so much weed, hoping that best ship

1030
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: would make my ship go down ice and it rehab,

1031
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: like I gotta get back out there for these dudes,

1032
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: and I could just never get healthy. And then once

1033
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: I'm feeling somewhat okay, these motherfucker's are eight and no

1034
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: already you know what I mean. Like, and I'm smart

1035
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: enough to know, like you don't disrupt that flung and

1036
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: who you are. So I'm just over here running, getting

1037
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 1: ready in case something happened, staying in shape, being the vet,

1038
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: talking to Clay, talking the dudes when they need to talk,

1039
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: lean on me, whatever, And I just had to, you know,

1040
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: take it as a fan. So that's almost why, Like

1041
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 1: I when I tell people like that ship was given,

1042
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: I don't really count it, you know what I mean?

1043
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: Like that ship was a freebe I said, I had

1044
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: the best motherfucking seats, and I watched these boys but

1045
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: that was the best part. They was hanging every I mean,

1046
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 1: they was happening shootouts with this dude in the Western

1047
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: Conference finals, you know what I mean, And hanging with

1048
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: Steph and claying on the plane in the hotel. And

1049
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: you can't replace that ship. That ship was a real family.

1050
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: She was dope. Man was like, it's different. Eric Howser,

1051
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: come on, you knew back when he is the greatest

1052
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: dude ever all time. He's the reason why the Warriors

1053
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 1: are the Warriors in my opinion, just like that process

1054
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: of the thing together. Man, Like he makes sure everybody straight,

1055
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: your family straight. Like that's what that ship is about.

1056
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: His name in Jersey. Come on, I got to get

1057
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: a street somewhere. That's how big man. But back to um,

1058
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: Sorry I interrupted you, but best teammates I hadn't had

1059
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: so many, man, fu I mean, no coin cookie boy.

1060
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: My brother definitely so happy for him. But you know,

1061
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 1: you ship man, that whole war is my my thunder

1062
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: teams that any team that you have a run with, Yeah,

1063
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: especially if you go past you go to second round,

1064
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: like not just the first round run, you go to

1065
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: second round. We only made it the first but you

1066
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: couldn't tell us after the first round, man, but that

1067
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: was the second round though, that if you lose that

1068
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: first round, just like if you got to three weeks

1069
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 1: out of this summer, you funk with everybody on that team,

1070
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: especially if you go to a chip run like you've

1071
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 1: been like he was on, Like, you funk with everybody

1072
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: on that mom, So just ship just about everybody. It's

1073
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: like only a couple of people that I just was like,

1074
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: didn't care too much about, but like I always respected them.

1075
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: Good ship. I don't want it was a good I

1076
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: like that talk to me about because you're someone you

1077
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: and your man Rich shout out Rich riches back here.

1078
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: You guys know rich the other side of the game,

1079
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: Like you are really taking advantage of business, and I

1080
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: think that might have started. I mean, obviously you guys

1081
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: have a great team, but you know that's one of

1082
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: the main reasons you know, the Bay Area is what

1083
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: it is. That and then what you're doing in film

1084
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: and everything. That mean, that's tired of mother's talking about me.

1085
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: I'm asking for him. I got tired of motherucking saying

1086
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: about me. So I created my own ship, board room, etc.

1087
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: And other ship just so I can create County County

1088
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: coming out and County all that to tell you what's

1089
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 1: really going on. So y'all can stop making up ship definitely.

1090
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: I mean that's really what it is that we own.

1091
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: That's something that I could really you know, do what

1092
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm done playing, like you know, tell stories how we

1093
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 1: wanted to tell them, give people our perspective on ship.

1094
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: There's so many platforms out down days, and you know,

1095
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: you want to figure out ways to separate yourself and

1096
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: make cool content. And we came up with the boardroom,

1097
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: we got PG County Docks. We're doing shows for Apple.

1098
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I can go down the line on ship

1099
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: that we want to do and that we did, but

1100
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: like you know, but the course that we've refurbished and

1101
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: the communities that we help, I think that's really what

1102
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: it's about for us, alongside of obviously the cool content

1103
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: that we do, platforms that we created, just the impact

1104
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: that we have in these communities that I play in

1105
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 1: and that I lived in around these times. It's probably

1106
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: the most impactful thing that we can do. That that

1107
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: training camp you had behind the walls and working with

1108
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: them guys hoop. So that's it don't get no deeper

1109
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: than that. When you come from that, and you know,

1110
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: we got so many people behind the walls that I

1111
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: never get that experience. That's the Warriors did are good.

1112
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: They do a great job with that. You know they

1113
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: go to same quit every every uh start of every

1114
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: season looking at Georgy and it's not shining the right

1115
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: way on that. Yeah, so I went with them that

1116
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: one time and then we did the dock on it.

1117
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: We did the dock on from f s one um

1118
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: called Q Ball in Saint Quinn and that ship don't man,

1119
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: you know how the game just bring anybody together. So

1120
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,919
Speaker 1: just speak on that more so than anything was though,

1121
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: so shot out many guys back in the jail to

1122
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: need that could have been in the there's no question

1123
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: PG County you're doing with showtime, right, so we got

1124
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: to shout out County dot coming so shameless plug and

1125
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: trying to get that money. But actually Morgan woton passes,

1126
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: you know, talk about that, man, that's that's tough. You know,

1127
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: the basketball communities and forget the best. The community in

1128
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: general has so much love and respect for Morgan Wootton

1129
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: and what he's done for so many young young black

1130
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: men in that area, not just black men, but just

1131
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: men in general, and you know, helping him get to

1132
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: college and just turn their lives around through the game

1133
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: of basketball. He impacted so many generations of people, you know,

1134
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: and to hear about him passing, uh, it was definitely tough,

1135
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: you know because, like I said, that's all I knew about.

1136
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,479
Speaker 1: That's where all the players coming up wanted to play

1137
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: for was Morgan Wooten and go to the mathod. So

1138
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: his legacy is gonna live forever through his players, through

1139
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: his memories, through his family, and he's part of the

1140
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: basketball community and huge part of the community forever. I'm

1141
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: sure Hall of Famer you've invested in some dope tech

1142
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: communities coin Base, uh Master and Dynamics you have. You know,

1143
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: a lot of different stuff going on where the hunger

1144
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: for tech coming. You're just always seeing it. You know,

1145
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: let's start from getting the newest video games, to get

1146
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: the newest gadgets, to get into the cell phone, you know,

1147
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: just progressing over time. You know, our life is basically

1148
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: run off of these things, and you know, so to

1149
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: get an up close and personal look on how this

1150
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: stuff is created and the work in the time that

1151
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: it takes to create these things, I think that was interesting,

1152
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: and moving to the Bay Area kind of gave me

1153
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: a real in depth look on what this really is about.

1154
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: And we just started building relationships and then went from

1155
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: them and attaching ourselves to the two companies that are

1156
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: really authentic to what I do as well and what

1157
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: we do at thirty five Ventures. So it's just been

1158
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: and that being playing for the Warriors, winning basketball games

1159
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: and having those people in our games. It's pretty easy,

1160
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: crazy to build those relationships. Nupplug, talk to me about

1161
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: your your brother Rich, that the partnership and love you

1162
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: guys have for each other, but also the friendship and

1163
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: and what he has meant to to your off the

1164
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: court movement and success. Man meant a lot, you know.

1165
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 1: So when I went over to I had three agents,

1166
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: two agents before the time I was with Pelinka and

1167
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: uh Aaron Goodwin, two great agents over time, and I

1168
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: just wanted to change and I went over the Rock

1169
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: Nation and Rich was the first guy to greet me

1170
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: and kind of take over what I was doing. And

1171
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: we just build that relationship over time, and we had

1172
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 1: conversations over time about what it would looked like if

1173
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: we started something together and we just did it. You

1174
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: just Win did it, and you know with the blessing

1175
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: and the from everybody that we worked with before, and

1176
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 1: you know, having that kind of like that teaching from

1177
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 1: with Rich had at Rock Nation and learning the business

1178
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 1: and learning just lifestyle and general entertainment, business, sports, loving sports,

1179
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: all intersting just how they all interstact. That somebody that

1180
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: was so well versed in everything world rounded and everything

1181
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a part of what I did.

1182
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: So it was just it made sense of the time.

1183
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: What does the advancement and in mental health and this

1184
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: era um that players are more susceptible to talking about

1185
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: it mean to you. I feel like every player wants

1186
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: to give a deeper perspective on what they go through

1187
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: as as just men in general, and especially in this

1188
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: life with this profession. And there's a lot of mental

1189
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: hurdles and obstacles that you gotta run through in order

1190
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: for you to reach your highest peak as an individual.

1191
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: So whether it's the great times or whether it's like

1192
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: the low points in your life, I feel just hearing

1193
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: that perspective, it's only gonna help others. And yeah, they

1194
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: had a curse to talk about it in front of people.

1195
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: Is is a It's something I enjoy seeing for my peers.

1196
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,439
Speaker 1: And the judgment is no judgment from anybody is really

1197
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: open dope dialogue when it comes to it, and I

1198
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: think it's a perfect time for it. What does it

1199
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: do to your psyche or your mental approach when you

1200
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: hear people talk crazy to you, disrespectful, negative? Like? What

1201
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: does that do I mean to be who you are?

1202
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: Like we talked about earlier, people think you just turn

1203
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: your back, you choose not to which I respect or

1204
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: what does it due to you when you just always here?

1205
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: Because people don't really know you, They know the player,

1206
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 1: and that's what they don't like, to be able to

1207
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: separate the player in the person. What does it mean

1208
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: to you as the person when if they knew you,

1209
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: they would really funk with you. But they don't. They

1210
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: know the players and they want to hate on you.

1211
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: It just all depends an environment. You know. If I'm

1212
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: out on the street, nobody's ever walked up to me

1213
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: in disrespect, nothing like that. Everybody coming up and calling

1214
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 1: me a bit in my face or saying anything disrespect

1215
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: you to anybody on with because I don't give off

1216
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: that in you. You know what I'm saying I don't

1217
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: come off as if I'm bigger in life or you know,

1218
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: you owe me anything, So I don't get that in person.

1219
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: But on the internet it's different. You know, you're gonna

1220
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: get all types of sh on the internet, and that

1221
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: is what it is. It's fun. Everybody uses that that

1222
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: that that place to kind of get off that anger

1223
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: that they always had, you know, and I wish they

1224
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: would never sing in person. So it's like, I get

1225
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: what you're using it for. But at games, when fans

1226
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: heck with me and talk about me and called me

1227
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: all types of names and tell me I got the

1228
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: worst hair and the lead that ship powers me up.

1229
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: It makes me feel like I'm the best player in

1230
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: the world because you come here to talk to me.

1231
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: I always obviously made you feel away. There's only a reason.

1232
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: There's only a reason. So you know, it just powers

1233
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: me up to another level. It charges me up. I

1234
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: like it. I enjoy it. I actually encourage it. I

1235
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: got some uh, I got some talking about your hair.

1236
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: I got some man's growing products for some dope ship.

1237
00:57:51,760 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: That d D whoever did Joe back? Yeah, always bullshit,

1238
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: he all the way lines. I'm telling you that Lebron

1239
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: gonna make the transformation. What's he gonna do is he

1240
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: gonna think it's kind of too late because he already

1241
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: got the back nine in the backyard, So that's already there.

1242
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: How can you cover that? So he just just just

1243
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: come home and go bad with it. I'm just saying

1244
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: I think eventually, I think the eventually dudes gonna go bad.

1245
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: I think that's the best bet. I think I'll be

1246
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: fucked up if I had to go because the world

1247
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: has seen the head push. You know what I'm saying.

1248
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: The world has seen the head band pushed their line

1249
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: back the whole and converted the whole part coming back. Yeah,

1250
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: you wasn't glue down together that night. He make it work.

1251
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: You make it work though, Yeah, definitely, you gotta keep

1252
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: the head band the way the head band is too

1253
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: head like, you know, I mean it's too tough on Yeah,

1254
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: that ship is tough. He make that thing work. He

1255
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: definitely make it work. You got That's that's that's broad.

1256
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: That's the cage. Actually, when you hear people talk about

1257
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: because to me, at one point, playing against you, playing

1258
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: with you, it wasn't taken away from Lebron's greatness and

1259
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: his tracker, what he's accomplished, art his creeling when he

1260
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: continue to accomplish. At the current time, you were the

1261
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,959
Speaker 1: best player in the world. Did you ever feel that way?

1262
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: I felt unstoppable. For short. I felt unstoppable because I

1263
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: don't really look at it as like I'm better than anybody.

1264
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to look at it that way, but

1265
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: that everybody brings something unique and different to the table,

1266
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: and the circumstances and situations is different. Like you know,

1267
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: you never know, you never know how dudes, how good

1268
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: dudes it be in certain situations. So I know I

1269
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: got a lot of talent, and I know I can

1270
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: do everything on the court, and I knew I can

1271
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: play any role at an efficient and elite level. Whatever

1272
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: that puts me, that's whatever it is. I'm sure any

1273
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: coach in any GM would love my talents when the

1274
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: so like whatever that wherever that puts me? Man, you

1275
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So that's how I looked at it.

1276
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: If that had been me to make that three in Cleveland,

1277
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: the finals, to win the championship, your mama, everybody, every long,

1278
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: what made that a big shot? Like that, I'm the

1279
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: best in the world. This is why I would have

1280
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: told everybody like I would have lost it. Man. I

1281
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: felt like I felt to feel some of that inside.

1282
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: I felt that. I felt I felt that like that

1283
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: that shot gonna always be there to remember. They're always

1284
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: gonna remember that, and if they don't, I'm sure everybody

1285
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area is. And that's good enough for me.

1286
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: But you hit the same shot when you came back

1287
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: in the finals, that ship the top of the kid

1288
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: that saint walk up through. Oh yeah, that next season's

1289
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: cooking tubes. I ain't walk up through cooking. I was

1290
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: scared though, because I was in Hawaii watching. I remember

1291
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: one time you got foul, but you took someone off

1292
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: the drup and like, no, can't you just stay out

1293
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: on the feet on line and just shoot these motherfucking

1294
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: eyeballs out for the rest of you talked about this

1295
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: last finals. Yeah, and when you took someone fould you

1296
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: then then they stopped, and I just like, that's how

1297
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: you know, man, she get into that zone for you.

1298
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: It's hard to used to doing something. Yeah, I can't,

1299
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: Like I can't. You gotta go out, gotta go hunting. Yeah,

1300
01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: I got the guy too, And I was like I

1301
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: felt good and have to go a hunting. You need

1302
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: some rest right now? It looks good as okay. I

1303
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: know he's like the first three that with it, and

1304
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: the whole thing is like, I like having those moments

1305
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: where people are gonna always be like, damn, those eleven

1306
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: minutes thought, those twelve minutes something. I like having that

1307
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: little feeling, man, because that's what the game about. Top

1308
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: five artists, come on. I mean, I'm just gonna say,

1309
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: Drake is creeping up to be the greatest. Yeah, you

1310
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: can't fight. That's that's That's the only thing I'll say.

1311
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: Is there anyone else in the category? Jay Z is

1312
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: gonna be hard to It's it's always hard to compete

1313
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: against jay Z. He didn't he didn't opened up so

1314
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: many lanes and doors for everybody music ship. But when

1315
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: I listened to music and listen to Drake is just

1316
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: hard to toan not what he got to say. We

1317
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: can talk about music like I feel like Wayne is

1318
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: a goat when we're talking about the lane and he

1319
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: created for these dudes. Is the only reason why a

1320
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: lot of these plut these rappers is in the game.

1321
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: Young thugs, same way, future, the same way, hold the

1322
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: same way, like Drake. I feel like they all on

1323
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: that same doors, open doors for everybody they feel. I

1324
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,919
Speaker 1: feel like they unlocked so many different genres within hip hop.

1325
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: It's not just one thing now, Like I feel like

1326
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: it's all different types of hip hop, different lanes that

1327
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: they opened up, and so many other kids got these

1328
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: opportunities now and to change their lives off of it.

1329
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: So it's like it's hard for me to name a

1330
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: few artists, but like you like NB A young Boy, Yeah, yeah, yes, sir, Yes, sir, yeah, sir.

1331
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: I mean Kodak Black, he Da black Is he wanted

1332
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: the ones for me. Gonna like they one of those

1333
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: ones where I can listen to all day every day

1334
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: and really really respect them, like they o gs in

1335
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: the game, like them dudes young, but they really they

1336
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: get it, you know what I'm saying. The baby like

1337
01:02:55,960 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: you hard. If you can have one like song that

1338
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: you walk out to, what would that be up all time? Damn, Damn,

1339
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: that's tough. What's your rocky music? What's your rocky thing?

1340
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: That's tom I'm gonna have to go. It's got to

1341
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: be jay Z. It's gonna have to be it's gonna

1342
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: have to be public service announcement, jay Z, it's gonna

1343
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna have to be away. Fuck, that's tough. That's tough.

1344
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with public service announcement. Then what would

1345
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: your Yeah some pop ship, Yeah, anything, pop, pop, hardcore, hardcore. Yeah.

1346
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: To me, he is because I think he had he

1347
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: had a song for every mood that we naturally go through,

1348
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 1: whether you're black, white, male, female, Like there's love, there's anger,

1349
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: there's happiness, there's kill, there's all the emotions we go through.

1350
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: That motherfucker had a hit for all of them, you know.

1351
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: I meaning to be so young and so far ahead

1352
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: of his time as far as vision, you know what

1353
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: I mean, and seeing what the world can be. But

1354
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: then and in similar ways, like he's speaking his mind

1355
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 1: against the bullshit he's seen. Yeah, you know what I mean.

1356
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: And so to me, he had like black protest music

1357
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: on top of like he was raised, Yeah, street ship,

1358
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 1: like love, you know what I mean? Like you know,

1359
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: to me, that's why he's my go to. Um. You've

1360
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 1: been name dropped, Jake, excuse me, Drake, j Cole, jay

1361
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: Z to name a Q. What was your favorite song

1362
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: your name was dropped in? Probably that Western Road Flows

1363
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: that Drake shout out the Katie, we related. We get

1364
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: the same attention, like, and that was back then before

1365
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: I was getting even as much attention as that would.

1366
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: That was okay see right yeah, like when I was

1367
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: just you was doing something together, right, Yeah, man, we

1368
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: gotta get back in. But I've seen the joint. You

1369
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: drop a little snippet, you drop you That was hard

1370
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 1: that Drake was. That's probably the best one. He was

1371
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: really really flowing on that on that record. But you know,

1372
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 1: any time any rapper, any artists can think about me

1373
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: why they're going through the process. I appreciate just how

1374
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: you word played that. That's how you really know you

1375
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: kind of made it. Though he crossed over to the

1376
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: entertainment side. When people you know, putting your name in

1377
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: wraps and then and they art, that is amazing. I

1378
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: appreciate it. So if you could have played in another

1379
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: era of basketball, seventies, eighties, nineties, what wouldn't be And

1380
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,919
Speaker 1: why we want to see m J in his hey day,

1381
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: Like you want to get looked at by m J? Yeah, sure,

1382
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: come in because he wouldn't at that time he is,

1383
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have played against a We got my length right,

1384
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that actually shoot as well

1385
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: and get to score, you know what I'm saying that.

1386
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: So I felt like that had been a fun matchup

1387
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 1: and it had been tough to fucking MJ. Was he

1388
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: the greatest man and just to be on the court

1389
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: and just soak up that greatness and compete against that,

1390
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: that had been like some imagine Katie was Shaun camp

1391
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: and Gary Payton would have been a tough for the boys.

1392
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: That would have been a rain. That had been a time.

1393
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: That would have been a rain. Katie on that team,

1394
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: that would have been a rain. So that's when I

1395
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: started looking at myself a little different. Now. I was like,

1396
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 1: hold up, so if I could, I could start on

1397
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: that team for the Sonics, like I start on a

1398
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: couple of teams back in the nineties, and I feel

1399
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: like my game is trying can translate, you know, through errors.

1400
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: So you know that's how I start, you know, look

1401
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: at myself a little different after that. That's big. If

1402
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: you could pick four other legends to hoo put you

1403
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: at the park you're in, who are you other? Four

1404
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: shock m J code, I'm gonna tell anybody else. And

1405
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: the camera man one of the camera. I don't show

1406
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: him to that part where you're gonna be. Ain't nobody

1407
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: else showing up? Mm hmm my fifth my fifth guyld

1408
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: be probably probably t MAC part team mat. I say

1409
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: we just played. I just say we played two on

1410
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: twos and then hadd another guy maybe three on threes.

1411
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 1: But that team couldn't play against nobody that best player

1412
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: you've ever played with and played with some motherfucker's You

1413
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 1: ain't playing with Kyrie yet, So in the conversation, he

1414
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: can't be I ain't playing. Yeah, you ain't played with

1415
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: him yet. It's a tie between Steph and Russ. It's

1416
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 1: got to be two killers, two completely different game changes. Yeah,

1417
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: because Russ I never feared. I never ever feared that

1418
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: he was gonna he was gonna lose the matchup. I

1419
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: never coming to the game was like, OHRS, just can't

1420
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: handle this guy tonight, you know what I'm saying. That's

1421
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: one thing I never worried about. And it's like, as

1422
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: a leader of a team, you worry about so much

1423
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 1: ship coming into a game, It's like, it's all dre'

1424
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: gonna be able to knock down the shot tonight. It's

1425
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 1: gonna be aggresive. We're gonna shoot with confidence, is surge

1426
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: gonna shoot what come because they're gonna be into it.

1427
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 1: They're gonna make sure they're locking in on their matchup

1428
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 1: so much to the point you forget about yourself sometimes.

1429
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 1: And one thing I didn't ever have to worry about

1430
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: was rest and having that comfort and having that type

1431
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: of like, uh, just knowing I can have that ease

1432
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: coming into the game from the point guard. Yeah, it

1433
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: was just like made my life easier. And I felt

1434
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,759
Speaker 1: the same way with Still, you know what I'm saying,

1435
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: because like I know for a fact that no point

1436
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 1: guard want to guard him because he ain't gonna stop moving.

1437
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,719
Speaker 1: So that's gonna take a little bit of energy from him.

1438
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: And he's gonna play with that dog where it's like

1439
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: he trying to destroy you when he was scoring, you

1440
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And our game plan was to

1441
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 1: get him open at all times, and he's not gonna

1442
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: stop And so I can rely when you can rely

1443
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 1: on people and damn I and play to go. Put

1444
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 1: Clay in there with them to the Clay got the

1445
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: dog like authentically authentic dog like nose role. I'm gon

1446
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: knocked down this trade ball and get to the cup

1447
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 1: here and there, but I'm locking up the playing and

1448
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: like those three is a tie between those three and

1449
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:23,719
Speaker 1: my favorites, because yeah, they made my life weigh easier mentally.

1450
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: So last question, Jack and I are people who use

1451
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 1: cannabis during our career and really try to advocate for

1452
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: it now. We feel like if it's used correctly, it

1453
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: could be very beneficial for athletes in today's game. Um,

1454
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: I know you feel similar with that You've invested in

1455
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 1: the cannabis company. Tell me what you think about the

1456
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 1: nature of cannabis and how professional sports can implement it

1457
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 1: into bettering their athletes and recovery. Well, I just think

1458
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 1: it should be taken off the bad substance lists and

1459
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,759
Speaker 1: if you know, you don't have to implemented in anything.

1460
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 1: It's it's one of those plants that if it's an

1461
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 1: acquired taste, like if you love it, you love it.

1462
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: If you don't, you're not even gonna pick it up.

1463
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: So it shouldn't even be a discussion nowadays. It's just

1464
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: like marijuana is marijuana. It's not harmful to anybody. It's

1465
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 1: only it only can help and enhance and and do

1466
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: good things. You know, I feel like it shouldn't even

1467
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: be a huge topic around it anymore, Like is it great?

1468
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 1: It's it good for you? Can it help? Is it bad?

1469
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: But when everybody on my team drinks coffee every day,

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Speaker 1: you know, and taking caffeine every day, or guy's got

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Speaker 1: to have wine after games, we have a little drink

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Speaker 1: here and there, it's like marijuana should be in that tone,

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Speaker 1: like why are we even talking about it? It shouldn't

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Speaker 1: even be a conversation now. So hopefully we can get

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Speaker 1: past that and the stigma around it and know that

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Speaker 1: it's done nothing but make people have a good make

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Speaker 1: people have a good time, make people hungry, and make

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Speaker 1: people just come together. That plant brings us all together.

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Speaker 1: Great job, great job getting people out of jail for marijuana.

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Speaker 1: That can be that's the next step, and we just

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Speaker 1: keep going on. But it's a plant that's put here

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Speaker 1: for a reason and it's all bring us together. Man,

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Speaker 1: hopefully it happens, especially the NBA KD. We appreciate you,

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Speaker 1: my brother, Thank you for taking some time. Shoes. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: we gotta get back a lot. Oh we're not done yet,

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Speaker 1: real quick, be quiet on his page. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: So this is a special segment Katie. We like to

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Speaker 1: call Jack some motherfucking beggars, but it's working out well. Jack.

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Speaker 1: What do you need from KD Shoes? The shoes which

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Speaker 1: once all of you? Boy, I've been posting them. You've

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Speaker 1: got some new kicks out, but this my son. You

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Speaker 1: know you something, my son some last ones. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: that he brought them to my attention. You got his

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Speaker 1: new ones out, So just what happened? I follow your boy.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of colors going on, even got inspired

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Speaker 1: up a pair. I'm on all of them and my

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Speaker 1: son need him. It's the biggest thing. And I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna tell Rich because he's behind the camera. My my

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Speaker 1: twinter au team needs a new shipment of Katie's. Rich

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Speaker 1: appreciate you appreciate we need those. Maybe a couple colors

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Speaker 1: because we're nice as fun by the way, won elite

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Speaker 1: nice Yet we just want the MLK tournament a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Man, we're gonna, yeah, we're doing it.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, man, k D, we appreciate you. Jack needs

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Speaker 1: some shoes. What kind of what's side? What's side? Four teens? Man?

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Speaker 1: That's a rap? Episode fourteen. You can Catch us on

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Speaker 1: Showtime Basketball YouTube or all platforms streaming podcast, take Over

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Speaker 1: All the Smoke. You Bet you M four two