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Speaker 2: But today's episode is rated PG thirteen and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: So without further ado, let's get to that theme song.

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Speaker 3: Why from the Parts Unknown Studios Into the Battle Crown.

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Speaker 1: Battle the battle Bound, the Battle Crowd.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Battleground Podcast, your place for all things

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Speaker 3: pro wrestling, The Battle.

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Speaker 1: The Battle Round.

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Speaker 3: Now making their way to the microphones, Get up for

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Battle Crown.

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Speaker 1: What's up you guys?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back into the Battleground Podcast, iHeartRadio's official wrestling podcast.

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Speaker 2: And it is a fun week this week because we've

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Speaker 2: there's always something big going down.

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Speaker 2: Because we're in the South, we're in Nashville. There's always

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Speaker 2: some sort of wrestling show and going on, and of

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Speaker 2: course this weekend is Strawberry Slam. It is a Memphis

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Speaker 2: Mayhem tag team turmoil match. Was of course, if you're

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Speaker 2: PG thirteen with Bill Dundee versus the Dangerous Headliners Chris

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Speaker 2: Michaels and Doug Gilbert. Of course you can still grab

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Speaker 2: time is at seven thirty. We're gonna be in the building.

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Speaker 2: And by me and we, I mean me and Eli

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Speaker 4: Look at that no little school. Doug Gilbert will always

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Speaker 2: But of course PG thirteen in action, this is the

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Speaker 1: Man, what's up, dude.

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Speaker 5: Man, how you guys doing Man, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Man, it's an honor to have you on the show.

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Speaker 2: Because I was telling Eli when I first saw this,

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Speaker 2: I spent my weekends at the Fairgrounds. I remember seeing

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Speaker 1: Like, it's an honor to have you on the show.

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Speaker 2: It's like growing up and I'm sitting here talking to

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's that's so cool when people tell me that.

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Speaker 5: Man, that made my shit right there.

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Speaker 5: You know, record that.

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Speaker 3: And that's literally how they did it back then, was

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 3: People don't some people want to call Memphis like a

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Speaker 2: Man, right, I agree on And you know, I sit

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Speaker 1: But when you guys were there.

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Speaker 2: I want to say it was PG thirteen versus the volunteers.

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Speaker 3: That would have been after USWA shut down. That was yes,

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Speaker 3: Reno Riggins, that was main event wrestling.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was main event, but I just wanted

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Speaker 5: Yeah, him and Steve Dahl of Tennessee Volunteers.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was the coolest thing in the world

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Speaker 2: Man Gang showing up to that like I saw you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he brought in some talent and that's what he

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Speaker 3: And I don't like to say, I don't live there

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Speaker 5: But it just you you weren't gonna be able to

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Speaker 3: I don't think at that level and the way that

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Speaker 1: Right right for sure.

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Speaker 2: So let's let's talk about it this weekend. You guys

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Speaker 5: Well, I hope to see PG. Thirteen there.

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Speaker 3: We've had some issues in the.

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Speaker 5: Past with that and I'm not gonna lie about it.

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Speaker 3: Man. Me and Jamie are like brothers. Man.

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Speaker 5: We fight, but we got each other's back. And against Doug.

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Speaker 3: We've wrestled Doug and had famous feuds with him, and

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Speaker 3: Tommy Rich I've wrestled four thousand million times too. So

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Speaker 3: like two days ago, there was only two or not

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Speaker 3: it's left. And also what I heard is that this

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Speaker 3: And as far as the other guys on the card,

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Speaker 3: I think, so my daughter went to school there. I

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Speaker 3: really good turnout. Man, we hope to have something good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be a big one.

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Speaker 2: I'm just kind of looking at You've got a special

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Speaker 2: attraction ladies match with Riley Rockett versus Hailey Shadows. You've

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Speaker 1: It looks like Alex Taylor's going to be defending that.

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Speaker 2: And of course, yeah, you've got lt. Fok, who is

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Speaker 2: the son of Tony Fox's gonna be there wrestling as well.

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Speaker 2: So it seems like it's gonna be a Memphis show

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Speaker 2: pretty much.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say the feedback we've gotten

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Speaker 4: and stuff. Well, let's stick with some tag team questions,

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Speaker 4: Well, and on top of that, we talk about it,

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Speaker 3: See how you can't tell me? And I'll make another

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, it's not enter. Yes it is. Some

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Speaker 5: They will not allow it to go. You see what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, we kind of talked a lot

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Speaker 1: Sixteen time tag team champions. It's got to be a lot.

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Speaker 4: I was doing that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can count count what you know sixteen time.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, obviously I knew how to work.

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Speaker 3: We went we went to Mexico, came back still undercard

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Speaker 3: But I'm just saying Indie wise and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: It's the blind blind. You got green guys working green

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Speaker 4: So this was random. I was I was on eBay

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Speaker 4: Wrestling from September fifth, nineteen ninety six. Guess who's on

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Speaker 4: the front of the flyer Me Wolf.

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Speaker 2: He said that to me earlier, and I was like,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is the card. So first match Gypsy

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Speaker 4: Joe versus Punisher. Second match Ben Mullens versus Cola Khan.

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Speaker 3: Rest of that back in the eighties.

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Speaker 4: Ah okay, Third you the USA USWA Star Wolfe d

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then let's see the main event was a

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Speaker 2: I remember hot Rod Biggs because his valet was Athena.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so here is the sparkle on Shelbyville. Shelbyville ran

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Speaker 4: I think that's what the flyer said too. I think

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Speaker 3: So PG thirteen was me. Well, Wolfy De was Wolfy

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Speaker 3: coming to the ring with a It was an album, okay,

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Speaker 5: No, not the kiss one with the band, Oh that one.

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Speaker 3: Hey. So obviously nobody's really gonna know what that is,

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Speaker 3: see it, it's in here, it's you know, encase in

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00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:42,400
Speaker 3: this thing.

438
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah.

439
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 5: And that was the finish, was the gold record across

440
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 5: the head nobody.

441
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if Chris didn't like because Chris books

442
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 3: Shelbyville at that time.

443
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 5: I don't know if Chris didn't like it or what.

444
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 3: But uh, he said, he said, I need a different

445
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 3: finish for tonight. Needs you all to come up with

446
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 3: something a different, a fuck finish. So that dressing room, okay,

447
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 3: it was a cab company during the day and then

448
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 3: room and they packed it in, man, almost all the

449
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 3: time it would be packed. It didn't hold a lot

450
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 3: of people, but it was a great atmosphere.

451
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 2: Uh.

452
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 3: And then the dressing room was like a fucking junk yard.

453
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 5: Man.

454
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 3: It was all kinds of shit back there, just random shit.

455
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,959
Speaker 2: I have a feeling and you might have been at

456
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: these as well. This was this is a while ago.

457
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: Because we would go to this wrestling show in Madison

458
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 2: and it was in the back of a discount tobacco,

459
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 2: beer and liquor store.

460
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: And I remember the night that I was there.

461
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 2: And uh and I told this story numerous times when

462
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 2: we talk to people about this that grew up in

463
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 2: the National wrestling like Chicken Hat was there, Chicken Hat

464
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 2: and uh he for weeks, Athena had just been egging

465
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 2: him on doing what she was supposed to do, and fine,

466
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 2: I think he just snapped and he the folding chairs

467
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 2: that they had were those wooden folding chairs, not your

468
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 2: plastic folding chairs, so he chucked one right at her

469
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 2: during the match, and then they're having to restrain him.

470
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 2: Then all hell breaks loose in the ring and Eric

471
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 2: Andrews got a legit cinder block and sledgehammer busted between

472
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: his legs, so he's bleeding between his legs as this

473
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 2: is going on, and the Boogie Woogie Boy comes out,

474
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what is happening right now? I feel

475
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 2: like I'm on the episode of Monty Python at the moment.

476
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was the last time I went to

477
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 1: that Madison wrestling show, so I.

478
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 3: Don't recall that building. But and I want to talk

479
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 3: about Athena for a minute. She and I went to

480
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 3: school together. I don't know if you know that. We

481
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 3: went through grade school all the way to high school. Okay,

482
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,479
Speaker 3: her last name started with a z Mine Wolf. We

483
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 3: were always in the back of the line together when

484
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 3: they did in the orders. It was funny the relationship

485
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 3: because like always used to mess with his Amy, kind

486
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 3: of nerdy, and I guess it'd be just being a jerk.

487
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 3: And I wasn't like super mister popular or anything, but

488
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 3: I always messed with Amy. But it was in a we.

489
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 5: Kind of had a love hate relationship.

490
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 3: And then she broke into the business that many years later.

491
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 3: It was funny. Let me go back to the Shelby.

492
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 4: Villa and oh yeah, yeah, yeah, since you cut.

493
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:23,479
Speaker 5: Me off, you're right, Okay.

494
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: So he says he needs this.

495
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 5: It's like a junkyard.

496
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 3: He needs to look there. So I'm telling you, there's

497
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 3: all kinds. There's piles of stuff. There were shelves with shit,

498
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 3: just random shit, man. And uh, we find a hubcat

499
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: back there, right, and so we're like, my first thought was,

500
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 3: what's his face flavor?

501
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 5: Flav?

502
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, Hubcat.

503
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 3: We tie rope around it.

504
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 5: There's a can of spray paint back there.

505
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 3: We fucking take PG thirteen on it, and that's where

506
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 3: the hubcap originated from. And we never stopped using that.

507
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 4: In actual drug garden.

508
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 3: That's great.

509
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 4: That's freaking crazy, oh man.

510
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 3: So the thing was you were asking me the name,

511
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 3: you know, uh, when Chris told us to get together,

512
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 3: you know, and then we had to come up with

513
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 3: a name. I came up with the names through you

514
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 3: remember the rat group n wah that song Parental Discretion

515
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 3: is Advised for the moment. I came up with the

516
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 3: words with the name PG thirteen from that song, and

517
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 3: I just thought it was cool because you know, no

518
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 3: other team had like just two letters and two numbers

519
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 3: as a you know, as a name. So I thought

520
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 3: it was So that's how that's where that came from.

521
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 4: Nice. That's awesome. Well, one thing that I think a

522
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 4: lot of people may not know or maybe they just

523
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 4: forgot about, but I mean, you guys were in the

524
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 4: Nation of Domination. That's wild. You know, We've been lucky

525
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,719
Speaker 4: enough to interview Mark Henry Godfather, and you know, obviously

526
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 4: they both feel that that group should be in the

527
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 4: Hall of fame. How did you guys get involved with

528
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 4: the group? And then how does it feel looking back

529
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 4: on it knowing just how influential you know that group

530
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 4: ended up.

531
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 3: Being Cornett called us because we had went up in

532
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 3: ninety five and did a few matches just as PG

533
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 3: thirteen gave us a win, gave us a match with

534
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 3: the Smoking Guns for the titles, blah blah blah blah blah,

535
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: even announced this as USWA Tag Team Champions. And the

536
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 3: only reason we didn't stick is because we were a

537
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 3: little too early on the size. Bruce Pritchard thought we

538
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 3: were too small, so we never heard back. And then

539
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 3: a few years later you have the Lightweight LOUCHI Door

540
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 3: Invasion and shit like what the fuck? A year later

541
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 3: or whatever this happens. So anyway, Cornett calls us up

542
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 3: and he says, hey, I got a gig for you.

543
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 3: I forget how he explained it, but basically, here's what

544
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 3: I need. I need you. I'm gonna send you some money.

545
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 3: I need you to go out. And he explained the

546
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 3: look of the gimmick and said I need you to

547
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 3: be PG. Thirteen but a little bit different. So we

548
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 3: went to UH in Memphis. All this stuff wasn't very

549
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: hard to find found. You know, the big jackets, the

550
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 3: black saggy pants, the patent leathered Nike high tops, black

551
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: pat leather Nike high tops, gold chains from the from

552
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 3: the flea market, swap meet, whatever you wanna call it,

553
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 3: gold teeth, gold rings, all that shit got. The hats,

554
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 3: had him embroidered, had the jackets embroidered.

555
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 5: And like I said, he they sent us the money

556
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 5: to just.

557
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 3: Go shopping basically, and uh, they fly us up or

558
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 3: tell me to write a wrap. Uh, and what I'm

559
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 3: supposed to be like, not what I'm supposed to say.

560
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: But Ron Simms is going to be farrouke. He's your leader.

561
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 3: You got this guy with Clarence Mason, YadA, YadA, YadA.

562
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 5: So this rap we go up there and and.

563
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 3: And here's the Here's another little tidbit for you, is that,

564
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 3: like in our contracts, it never said PG thirteen jc

565
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 3: Ice woof, we d none of that shit. We were

566
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: basically the rappers. Okay. That is why we were able

567
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 3: to go to w CW, to ECW to all these

568
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 3: places without ever having to change our names, because not.

569
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 5: On our names.

570
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 3: But when I wrote the rap, I made sure that

571
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 3: every week when we walked out, you heard our names

572
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 3: because I put in there spitting out the rounds of

573
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 3: jac I said, well.

574
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 4: V d oh, that's pretty smart.

575
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: So smart.

576
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 5: So anyway, being a part of that, that's how that started.

577
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: It was awesome, uh, Me and Jamie, like I said,

578
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: I don't think they ever we were gonna get noticed.

579
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 3: You know, we were the rappers, but we were gonna

580
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: get noticed. We had been in the business long enough

581
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 3: we knew when the red light came on which camera

582
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 3: it was on on and we would get on that

583
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 3: motherfucker and and doing extra like at the end taking bumps.

584
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: I might you know, they might say, hey, you got

585
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: to take this, and I try to, you know with

586
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: the person, Hey how about duck this? Then you give

587
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 3: it to me. But you know, and the guys appreciated that.

588
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: Because we weren't two goose on the side who couldn't work.

589
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 3: We could do some shit.

590
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 5: And I remember one where Vince.

591
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 3: Vince was out there and it was like a deal

592
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 3: where there was a limo waiting and Ferruke was in it,

593
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: but he had on They caught me and Jamie. He

594
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 3: puts Jamie into the trunk of the limo. Slams the

595
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: lid or slams the hood there, and I'm supposed to

596
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: just jump in the car and we speed away. And

597
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: I said, hey, how about this to Vince and I said,

598
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: how about they almost I almost missed my ride. I said,

599
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 3: how about they start taking off with one of those

600
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: windows down in the back And I said, I'll come

601
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 3: run and dive into the window with my feet hanging out,

602
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: so when we drive away, you get the visual of

603
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 3: my feet. I think that was on a raw I

604
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 3: could not tell you who it was, but I know

605
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: it's there. And he's like, you can do that, and

606
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: I said yeah, and he's without getting hurt. I said, yes,

607
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 3: I can do that without getting hurt. So I did

608
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: it and he loved it. Man. So that's what I

609
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 3: mean by we were gonna shry our best to if

610
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 3: you were gonna help us to get over, we were

611
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 3: going to get noticed somewhere.

612
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 4: Do what you tell right. That's the name of the game, Yeah,

613
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 4: for sure.

614
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: And of course the name of the game is Everybody's

615
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: gonna be at Strawberry Slam. That that is this weekend

616
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: benefiting the Portland Quarterback Club. Of course, you can still

617
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: grab tickets right now Pro Wrestling Tics dot com. It

618
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: is at the Portland High School seven thirty. You've got

619
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: PG thirteen with Bill Dundee versus the Dangerous Headliners of

620
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: Chris Michaels and Doug Gilbert. So I want to talk

621
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 2: about this because we were sitting here watching this and

622
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: I've watched you know, the watch alongs with Conrad and

623
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: we've they've had some conversations on his podcast about you

624
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: and JC But you spend some time in ECW, whose

625
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: influence continues to be felt today. Of course with GCW,

626
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: what do you think of the modern day I guess

627
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: GCW and how it's been influenced and guided by ECW.

628
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: All right, well, I would be straight with you. I

629
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 3: don't know what GCW is. Is that just kind of

630
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: like a modern day ECW kinda?

631
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 4: I mean, if it was, I kind of jokingly call

632
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 4: him cousins. It's it's short for well, used to be

633
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 4: Jersey Championship Wrestling and then it became Game Changer Wrestling,

634
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: So it's I don't know, it's not exactly like ECW

635
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 4: because they don't have the budget that they do. They

636
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 4: don't have like a TV deal. But like right now,

637
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 4: like for example, their World Champions John Moxley. Okay, so

638
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 4: I mean like they're bringing in some people, but there

639
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 4: it's kind of the spiritual for lack of a better,

640
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 4: tournament's kind of the cousin with that.

641
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: Without without having seen seen it, it's hard to say, man.

642
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 4: Out of comment, Yeah, you said you don't watch a lot,

643
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 4: So that's it's.

644
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's I mean, that's one I haven't heard of

645
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 5: in apology.

646
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 4: I mean, they're big thing. Like recently, they just got

647
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 4: x POC out of retirement and he had a match

648
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 4: Scotty too. Hotty came out of retirement, he had a

649
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 4: match with him.

650
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 3: So okay, I saw where x pox had a match

651
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: and evidently he you know, did pretty good considering.

652
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 4: Well, we'll go to the next one because this one's

653
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 4: more about you making money, so we'll see what see

654
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 4: what this answer is. So speaking of one of the

655
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 4: big guys in gc W is Joey Janella. He he

656
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 4: was in the a W and he made his name

657
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 4: with g c W. He's really the one pulling out

658
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 4: these matches. He recently he had x POC, he had

659
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 4: Scotty two Hotty, and he had Barry Horwitz. So he's

660
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 4: trying to kind of do the greatest hits of wrestling.

661
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 4: If they extended an imitation to PG thirteen, would that

662
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 4: be something you guys would be open to coming, you know,

663
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 4: going up to a GCW show and show.

664
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: I would be open to it. The problem just for

665
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: me physically. I've always said I don't want to be

666
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: one of those guys that somebody such as as yourself

667
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: that grew up in Nashville and watching me and stuff.

668
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: I don't want people to ever look at me and

669
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 3: go he needs to stop, you know.

670
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to be less than Yeah, you don't

671
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: want to be like Mickey Rourke and the wrestler right,

672
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: And to be honest with you, man, we talked off

673
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: air a little bit.

674
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 3: You know, a torn quawd off my kneecap rebuilt that

675
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 3: you know, had to everything's basically stitched and it's grown

676
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 3: together now oftly, but had to be stitched together with

677
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: fiber wire and two hole building my ap and you know,

678
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: arthritis in my hip, my lower back hip labrum, having

679
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 3: to have epidural injections in my lower back because degenerative disdisease.

680
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: So I'm limited. The last time I worked was about

681
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: a month or six weeks ago, and that was the

682
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 3: first time I had worked since I tore my tricep

683
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: off the bone back two thoy and sixteen. However, this

684
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: last match, it was me and Jerry Lawler against Doug

685
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: Gilbert and a moondog. So I knew in a tag

686
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 3: match with those people, I'd be okay, you know, do

687
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 3: a bunch of shit.

688
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: So as long as they as long as you could

689
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 4: be protected, you'd be open to it. Right, absolutely nice. Yeah,

690
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 4: they they just did, uh they played they did the

691
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 4: Hammerstein in January and sold it out in New York. Yeah,

692
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 4: and kind of kind of their homage to ECW, you know,

693
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,479
Speaker 4: they kind of had the yeah. So yeah, that one. Yeah,

694
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if they invited joh at some point.

695
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 4: I mean he likes the he likes the ones that

696
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 4: were you know, you know, not the superstars. I mean

697
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 4: he's fought like two Colts, took Scorpio, like more of

698
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 4: the ones that are influential and the ones that he respected.

699
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 4: So yeah that when when we started getting this interview together,

700
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 4: I was like, man, they needed GCW needs to reach

701
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 4: out to these guys. Man, they would people would pop

702
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 4: for sure.

703
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, cool, I liked it and old DCW man

704
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 3: there was I loved it there. Man. We had we

705
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: had some fun times and some great matches. Worked with

706
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 3: just about everybody up there. Oh yeah, so we you know,

707
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 3: we did the one pay per view, Hardcore Heavy ninety

708
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 3: seven and a little bit of TV, but a lot

709
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: of our stuff was house shows and stuff. But I

710
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 3: mean I loved the crew, and you know, I don't

711
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: think the whole time I was there, you know, people

712
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 3: talking about how crazy was it in ec wahlah.

713
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 5: I don't even think I ever got hit with a chair.

714
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 5: Our matches were matches, man.

715
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 3: We just had good.

716
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: So out of the three, which one was your favorite

717
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 4: to work in? Was ecww CW or WWF e C

718
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 4: W W w F or what Yes, w w C

719
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 4: W oh w c W Uh I liked.

720
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 5: I liked working in w c W.

721
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 3: I'll say w w F would be last because we

722
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: didn't work a lot, you know, and we were sidekicks

723
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 3: and there was there's I wanted more. I wanted more,

724
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: but to be quite frank, we we fucked that up,

725
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,959
Speaker 3: I believe. Uh. But w CW I loved working there.

726
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: You know, it was the dying days. We weren't getting

727
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 3: a push, but we were. We were there all the time. Uh,

728
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 3: you know, in competitive matches and NIRO, they usually wouldn't

729
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: give us much. But on the syndicated shows and Thunder,

730
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 3: we were, you know, pretty competitive and stuff. I don't

731
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 3: have liked to be a little bit better, But there

732
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: was no real direction for us. It was more Jeff

733
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 3: booking us because his buddy was Russo and you know,

734
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 3: he was kind of doing us of you know, a

735
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 3: fave right well.

736
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 4: And you know, a lot of a lot of people,

737
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 4: you know, back in the late you know, in the

738
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 4: w CW. I mean some of the you know, yeah,

739
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 4: some of the high end stuff was garbage, you know,

740
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 4: the Hogan stuff all that. But I mean if you

741
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 4: go down the card, I mean, there were some incredible

742
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 4: talent and matches, and I think a lot of people

743
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 4: are going back and kind of discovering like, oh wow,

744
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 4: like you know that's you know, all the kind of

745
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 4: the stuff on the mid card and down or the

746
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 4: tag teams. You know, they weren't really you know, the

747
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 4: main focus in the late nineties in WCW.

748
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 3: It's funny, man, when people ask me that question, what's

749
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: the best what's your favorite match you ever had? Best

750
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 3: match you ever had? That is such a hard question

751
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 3: to answer because it depends on really what you're asking me,

752
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 3: as far as is it the best technical match I

753
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 3: ever had, because there's been plenty of matches that, Like

754
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: I wrestled the Xpot when he was one two three kid,

755
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: or yeah, he's the one two three kid in Memphis

756
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 3: a singles match. Me and him tore that fucking place down,

757
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 3: but it wasn't on tape, and the house was big

758
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 3: because the main event was Lawler than the Undertaker, So

759
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 3: you know, we tore it the fuck down, man, and

760
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 3: I've never gotten to see that match. I remember that

761
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 3: as being one of my favorite matches. Did we draw

762
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 3: that house? No. On the opposite coin of that, what

763
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 3: is your favorite match? Well, US versus the Rock and

764
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: Roll Express in Louisville, Kentucky a night to remember, drew

765
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 3: a huge house and we were the main event, So

766
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 3: that's one of my favorite matches. Yeah, So yeah, that's

767
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 3: always a hard question for me, you know.

768
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, we've tried staying away from that one because

769
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 4: it's almost kind of like, you know, what's your favorite

770
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 4: meal you've ever eaten?

771
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: Like that's a favorite kid.

772
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've had ten thousand meals. Well, you know, you've

773
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 4: wrestled for thirty years. I mean, how are you gonna

774
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 4: remember every single one of them?

775
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 3: Right?

776
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: Of course, wrestling again this Saturday, May seventh. It's at

777
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 2: seven thirty at the Portland High School Strawberry Slam benefiting

778
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: the Portland Quarterback Club. Of course, you can still grab

779
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 2: tickets at Pro Wrestling Takes dot com. And your manager

780
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 2: managing PG thirteen is gonna be Bill Dundee. And before

781
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: we were talking on there, you had brought up something

782
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: about Bill Dundee and a knife.

783
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 5: Yeah. Man, okay, so here is.

784
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: The my version of the story. Okay, So Bill really

785
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 3: didn't want me and Jamie n Uswa before we got there.

786
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: He didn't. You know, people think that Bill helped us

787
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 3: get there. And I had so many people think that

788
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 3: the D and Wolfie D stood for Dundee because I

789
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 3: was brother.

790
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 4: I heard that rumor, yeah, when I was growing up.

791
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 3: So he didn't want us there, he didn't help us.

792
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 3: So at any rate, he's knocking us to the office.

793
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 3: And this is when we're getting our push, at this

794
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 3: point where you know he's knocking us da da da uh.

795
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 3: But then on the get he takes a picture with

796
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 3: us one day, me and him, you know, me, Jamie

797
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: and Bill, And next thing, I know that motherfucker's on

798
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: his gimmick table. So why are the people gonna come

799
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 3: over to my table buy a picture of me and

800
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: then go over to Bill's table buy picture him? When

801
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: they go to Bill's table and buy a picture of

802
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: all of us, yep. And so I say to Jamie,

803
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 3: I said, Man, I said, this is bullshit, dude, I said,

804
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: he's making that picture right there is selling more than

805
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: just about any picture.

806
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 5: And it's because the people can get it.

807
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 3: With all of us and we'll all sign it like knuckleheads.

808
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 3: And I think he should give us a cut out

809
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: of these. Man, that's my dad. Man, I can't say nothing. Man,

810
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 3: you're going have to say something. I said, all right,

811
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to say something. So we were in a

812
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 3: spot show. It's like a Friday night and uh, I

813
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: can't It was like at Mississippi or Arkansas or some

814
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: shit like that.

815
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 5: It was a gym. Old gym might have been a.

816
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 3: School, but the just you know, the locker rooms, you

817
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 3: could tell was for a high school team or something,

818
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 3: and then there was like a wooden bench with the

819
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: two little poles sticking to the floor, and and I

820
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 3: go in there, and and Bill's laid on it like

821
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 3: he's all dressed in his in his ship and uh,

822
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 3: he's laid down with his with his foot cocked up

823
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 3: on his knee there, laid back. And I came in

824
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: and I said, I said, hey, Bill, can we talk outside?

825
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 3: Because I didn't want to do it in front of

826
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: the boys. You know, I wasn't trying to make a

827
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 3: big deal of it, and just say this is my

828
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 3: feelings on this. So you got something to say to me,

829
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: make you say it right here. I said, all right, well, YadA.

830
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 5: YadA, I don't think this is cool.

831
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Things get escalated, okay.

832
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 3: And uh then finally, like I said, and the reason

833
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: I'm blah blah, I don't remember exact words that were said,

834
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 3: but he's going back and forth. And then finally I

835
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 3: put my arms out and I just said, what the

836
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: fuck's up? Then, like, what the fuck's up? And he

837
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: popped up off that fucking bench, reaches in his boot

838
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: and he pulls out a fucking knife.

839
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 4: Like, what the fuck? Now?

840
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: I wasn't laughing there he pulls out this fucking knife

841
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 3: like crocodile. Dundee, fucking you what? He said? You want

842
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 3: to know what's up, I'll show you what's up? All right.

843
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 5: So Doug Gilbert and Randy Hill's were there. But Doug Gilbert,

844
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 5: you remember those, Remember the little library carts that would

845
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 5: carry the books. Okay, little ROLLI gimmicks.

846
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: Had one of those, and Doug pushes it in between

847
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 3: me and Bill.

848
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 5: Because your Doug didn't want to get in front of

849
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 5: the knife either. The library cart.

850
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 3: Put some distance between us, and then, uh, the Doug

851
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: and Randy get us apart and whatnot. And then it's

852
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 3: funny because me and Doug were talking about this the

853
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: other day. I forgot about this part. Now Bill got

854
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 3: fired over that, and but the part I forgot was

855
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 3: he actually went to the ring with his fanny pack

856
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: and his knife in it and took it to the

857
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 3: rim and put it in the corner during his match

858
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 3: and then left or whatever. Uh, and then they fired him.

859
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 3: And then to finish that is that? So Lawlor and

860
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: and Randy Hill's come to me. I can't remember how

861
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 3: many months later and they're like, look, Bill wants to

862
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: come back. And this is when me and Jamie were

863
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 3: doing the cyberpunks thing. At this point, they said Bill

864
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 3: wants to come back, but we're not gonna do it

865
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 3: without you saying okay. And I was like, like for what?

866
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 3: And then they're like, well, we kind of want to

867
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 3: do a shoot angle where you know, we tell what

868
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: happened as far as the nice thing goes, and you

869
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: all have a few that begins with that. I was like,

870
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: is this motherfucker gonna be cool or what it's like?

871
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 4: Because he pulled a real knife.

872
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 3: Like that, and they stirred me, and I think me

873
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 3: and Bill might have you know, they had us sit

874
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 3: down together beforehand, and I don't remember specifically, but I

875
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 3: said yes, And so me and Bill worked a hell

876
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 3: of a program with each other. He worked harder than

877
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 3: he had worked in years. I mean, he was letting

878
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: me fucking press slamm him. And before that Bill had

879
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 3: gotten lazy. And he came back like I feel like

880
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 3: he was trying to earn my respect and I in

881
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: turn earned his because we were I mean, you know,

882
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 3: Bill throws some pretty spiff punches, especially back in his

883
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 3: day and I was giving him right back to him. Man.

884
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 3: It was it was. We had barboire matches. We had

885
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 3: a lot of you know, those brawls, and I think

886
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 3: he earned his respect and vice versa, and we've been

887
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 3: cool ever since.

888
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 4: That's gotta be kind of a cool full circle moment too,

889
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 4: you know, like you know your partner's dad, and obviously

890
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 4: there's all that perception and stuff. But a lot of people,

891
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,959
Speaker 4: I mean Bill Dundee's went five four, five to five,

892
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 4: I mean probably something like that. He was little. That

893
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 4: knife had to looked like a machete.

894
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 3: Or some.

895
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was so it wasn't well, it's

896
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 4: not funny, but it was funny. Like I worked, I

897
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 4: worked at UH, I worked at best Buy and Jackson

898
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 4: twenty years ago whatever, and he'd come in. I don't

899
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 4: know where he was living. I think he was still

900
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 4: living in Memphis, but he'd drive over to Jackson but

901
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,479
Speaker 4: he had a I think he had a crown VIC

902
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 4: and had his face plastered on the front on the door.

903
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 4: He would always come in and buy blank VHS tapes

904
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 4: because I guess we were like the last place still

905
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 4: doing this was like two thousand and four. So everything,

906
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 4: you know, and he'd just come in and buy as

907
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 4: many as we had, and I did. I recognized him,

908
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 4: but a lot of people didn't know he was. I

909
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 4: just bug him and grab you know. So, but uh yeah,

910
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 4: that's wild Man. We saw him. When was it twenty nineteen?

911
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 4: I think he was at the fairgrounds.

912
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: Here that he actually yeah, he fell back like three

913
00:45:59,040 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: years ago.

914
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 4: I mean, he's it's unbelievable. So so real quick before

915
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 4: we let you go, this will be your time to

916
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 4: plug anything.

917
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 3: We know.

918
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: You've got a podcast. Please tell us where we can

919
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 4: check that out, the name of it, your socials, like,

920
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 4: where can people keep up with the wolf Wolf.

921
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 3: I won't give you my solid security number now, but

922
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 3: yeah yeah yeah. Uh so Live and in color with

923
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 3: Wolfe D. My co host is Jimmy Street. We have

924
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 3: a it's an audio only. I don't do video, so

925
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 3: this is perfect for the person that's commuting to work

926
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 3: or whatever. An hour week drops on Mondays at noon.

927
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 3: We're we've almost been going a year now. We've had

928
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 3: some great guests, Hall of famers, you know, all the

929
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 3: people that I have known. There's also episodes where I'm

930
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: told by complete story and my versions of you know,

931
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 3: things that happen, road stories, ribs, all that kind of stuff.

932
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 3: And along with the guests, we also do UH where

933
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 3: the fans can and mail in emailing questions and the

934
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 3: episode is called anything. Then we have one called ask

935
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 3: Wolfe to watch Anything, and we'll do a watch along.

936
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: We'll give them a link so they can watch along

937
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 3: with us.

938
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: UH.

939
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 3: And then there's times where I pick what I want

940
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 3: to watch and I'll do those and can kind of

941
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 3: break those down. Or I had an episode where it's

942
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 3: my favorite matches from childhood and then I watch them

943
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 3: now as me knowing what I know, et cetera.

944
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 4: That's cool.

945
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 3: Good. My my normal Facebook personal page is kind of

946
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 3: hard to get on because it stays loaded up, but

947
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 3: it's Warren wolf. Then I also have a wolfy D

948
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: page on Facebook. The other stuff Twitter, Instagram and see

949
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: and then and then the Facebook page for the podcast.

950
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 3: It's all at Live wolfy D. All those at Live

951
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 3: wolfy D and Wolfe is w O L F I

952
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 3: E UH. You can go to Pro Wrestling t's UH

953
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 3: and go to the podcast stores. I have a live

954
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 3: and in color wolfy D store where you can get

955
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: T shirts of PG thirteen of me, of podcast logo,

956
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 3: YadA YadA. And also if you just want to contact me,

957
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: can you see the pint size All Stars up there?

958
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

959
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so we've got those still. Just message me

960
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 3: and I can shipt those out myself. I'll also have

961
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 3: at the Strawberry Slam this weekend. I'm gonna have of

962
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 3: course eight by ten's me and Jamm You'll be taking pictures.

963
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have some T shirts. It's the one if

964
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 3: you go to Progress and Tease. It's on there, but

965
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 3: you can get it for me for cheaper. This weekend.

966
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 3: I'll have those and then also have the pint size

967
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 3: All Stars.

968
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 2: So so do I need to go ahead and give

969
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 2: you my credit card now or do you want to

970
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: give it to you on Saturday?

971
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll have to show you my little pint size

972
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 4: when we get off there. I got some in the

973
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 4: mail today, so you might appreciate those.

974
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 3: Awesome well, of.

975
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: Course again if you want to get out there, tickets

976
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: not very many rings.

977
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: I saw that earlier.

978
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 2: I think there was like six, but those are probably

979
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 2: gonna be gone by the time that.

980
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 3: You hear this.

981
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 2: So pro Wrestling Ticks dot Com. That's pro wrestling tix

982
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: dot com. Strawberry Slam this Saturday, Pg. Thirteen with Bill

983
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: Dundee versus the Dangerous Headliners Chris Michaels and Doug Gilbert.

984
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 2: That shows at seven point thirty all benefiting the Portland

985
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 2: Quarterback Club and it's going down at Portland High School.

986
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: We're gonna be there.

987
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 2: We want to make sure you're there and we're gonna

988
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: be there with Woopy D And again it Sonanta to

989
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: have you on the show tonight, and we really do

990
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: appreciate your time.

991
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: Hey, thank you so much. Man appreciate you guys having me.

992
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 6: We hope you enjoyed today's episode of the Battleground Podcast.

993
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 6: Make sure you give it five stars and a nice review.

994
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Speaker 3: To stay up to date with

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