WEBVTT - Racism In America

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<v Speaker 1>What's up. Family, it's your girl to make a d

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<v Speaker 1>Mallory and it's your boy my saw in the general

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<v Speaker 1>and we are your hosts of Street Politicians, the Place

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<v Speaker 1>and politics. Me. We've got a great show today. There's

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<v Speaker 1>so much content that I can't argue with you about,

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<v Speaker 1>like the issues that I have that I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not feeling you about in your opinions. So today you

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<v Speaker 1>you actually escaped a good one because I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I ain't feeling you on some stuff you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be saying. I mean, that's the norm. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we we ain't gonna get into our usually back and forth,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how we usually get it in. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about that a little later. Maybe next episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tear you up like I usually do. Now, Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we I think we should have we should do a

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<v Speaker 1>specific interview on all the things that we don't. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you up and you upper cuss now. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>good to be on listen New Year two. I'm all

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<v Speaker 1>about just positivity. Just clear the air, make it make

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<v Speaker 1>it strong. Whatever we're in, let's do it and do

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<v Speaker 1>it well. And we are, you know, really looking at

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<v Speaker 1>how Street politicians as a brand is going to become

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<v Speaker 1>even stronger and become even more of a cultural influence.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like there are you know, are folks who

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<v Speaker 1>are invested in us rebranding UM, and you know we're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking through what that's gonna look like. So I'm happy too.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's still no matter what we call it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>still gonna be me and you not agreeing on a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff. Yeah, we don't agree. That might be

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<v Speaker 1>the we don't agree to my son don't agree because

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<v Speaker 1>we agree. We agree a lot. We agree for the

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<v Speaker 1>most problem, but we just don't. We come at it

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<v Speaker 1>from two different perspectives. That's it, I think. So. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot happen in Mice. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got issues like Rikers Island in New York is

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<v Speaker 1>a big issue. It's like it's so much for us

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<v Speaker 1>to get back to work on Rikers Island is an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Voting rights is still an issue. No just George Floyd,

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<v Speaker 1>justice and police and act. I mean, there are so

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<v Speaker 1>many different things happening. And I think one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that we as a as a as a as

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<v Speaker 1>a social justice movement, we have to take a step

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<v Speaker 1>back and look at how we're approaching all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so today we're talking a lot about racism in

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<v Speaker 1>America is still a real things. Two don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>or we left that in twenty one that we had

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<v Speaker 1>some convictions. We know we're still in a society and

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<v Speaker 1>a time where racism is alive and well, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>starting to really talk about what steps do we need

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<v Speaker 1>to take, like aggressive steps to gather our people and

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<v Speaker 1>begin to educate ourselves and do more collectively um to

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<v Speaker 1>make a change. So I'm all, I'm really really optimistic

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<v Speaker 1>and excited. There's an energy about this new time that

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<v Speaker 1>we're in that even though it still might be a

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<v Speaker 1>little difficult, I think we're actually people. I hear it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I see the energy within my friends, within our friends,

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<v Speaker 1>the people we work with, where folks are like, let's go,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go, let's go. Yeah. I think we we we

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of rest, you know, everybody's been resting

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the holidays, and I think people realize we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to get back to work. Like you said, there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many different issues going on out here. Man. My main

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<v Speaker 1>thing is just this violence in the streets that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a week ago fourteen fifteen young teenagers just got swept

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<v Speaker 1>up in indictments from everything from murder too, bracketeer and

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<v Speaker 1>all these things. And I really do not want to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to see these young boys just throwing their lives away, man.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's really what this world Card Black Murder thing

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<v Speaker 1>is really a focus on minds, man, because I really

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<v Speaker 1>think that we have to impact, and in order to impact,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to really go to our community is to

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<v Speaker 1>sit down and iron out and pull the weeds back

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<v Speaker 1>and and be able to have hard conversations and be

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<v Speaker 1>able to tell how the kids cuts us out and

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<v Speaker 1>and come back even after they cuts us out, and

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<v Speaker 1>not to be like, you know what, they don't listen

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<v Speaker 1>like we we can't. We don't have the right or

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to sit back and just allowed us continue

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<v Speaker 1>to go on like it is. So you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>where I really want to focus on. Whether it's so

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<v Speaker 1>much so much? It's so much, and um, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we should really be thinking about interviewing some of the

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<v Speaker 1>district attorneys from across the country that are dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>this gun violence issue, and a lot of them are

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<v Speaker 1>trying not to prosecute certain low level offenses so that

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<v Speaker 1>they and and but also shifting these young people into

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<v Speaker 1>programs so that they can deal with at risk youth.

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<v Speaker 1>So all of that, you know, and how we work unconventional,

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<v Speaker 1>non traditional ways and methods of saving our young people

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<v Speaker 1>is so important and not and you know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that that's what boycott Black Murder is all about. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot that can be done with street politicians.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know, my my thought of the day today,

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<v Speaker 1>after sitting for the last week, you know, leading up

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<v Speaker 1>to January six. Now we're a week later after January six,

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<v Speaker 1>and we watched all of this coverage about the insurrection.

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<v Speaker 1>Every which way you turned, they were talking insurrection, insurrection, insurrection.

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<v Speaker 1>And then President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris they

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<v Speaker 1>went somewhere and and and vice the vice president was

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<v Speaker 1>the speaker, and they talked about all of these things

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, the criminal acts of those people who

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<v Speaker 1>participated in trying to overthrow the government, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>what the insurrection means. And President Barack Obama put out

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<v Speaker 1>a statement, powerful stuff. Why is it? I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to understand or let me not even ask why, because

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<v Speaker 1>I already know why. To me, it is a waste

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<v Speaker 1>of time to talk for, especially for elected officials, to

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<v Speaker 1>speak about the insurrection and focus just on those, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>individuals who were there who participated, and not call for

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<v Speaker 1>the prosecution of people who are in government who were

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<v Speaker 1>a part of it. So if you're not taking the

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<v Speaker 1>time to when you're standing Vice President Harris, President Obama President,

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<v Speaker 1>why not say there are congressional members who opened the

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<v Speaker 1>doors of the capital basically gave people tours, knew what

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<v Speaker 1>they were doing. They knew what these people were doing.

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<v Speaker 1>They need to be prosecuted. So why what is the

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<v Speaker 1>problem with I don't know if it's the Democrats or

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<v Speaker 1>just the way politics work, And maybe I need to

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<v Speaker 1>be re educated, but it feels so disingenuous to me

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to these people make powerful speeches and they

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<v Speaker 1>say all these things, but not place to blame squarely

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<v Speaker 1>on individuals who are elected. A crazy person who's running

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<v Speaker 1>up the side of the wall, Yeah, that person needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be prosecuted. But what's more important is who powered

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<v Speaker 1>that behavior, who is behind who is responsible for why

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<v Speaker 1>that person thought it was okay? And there are congressional

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<v Speaker 1>members and and people who are in the Senate, and

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<v Speaker 1>no excuse me. They are members of the House who

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<v Speaker 1>are who incited a riot. We already know we have,

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<v Speaker 1>of course Donald Trump, but we've dealt with that. That

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<v Speaker 1>is what it is. But there are others lower hanging

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<v Speaker 1>fruit that I don't even hear what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>So my thought of the day today is like, am

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<v Speaker 1>I bugging that? I feel like all the speeches that

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<v Speaker 1>were made, all the statements they put out last week

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<v Speaker 1>should have culminated with a call for um accountability for

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<v Speaker 1>people who were elected to office that are basically committing

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<v Speaker 1>treason on this country. When you sit and know that

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<v Speaker 1>there are people who want to destroy the foundation of

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<v Speaker 1>our nation and you do nothing about it and or

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<v Speaker 1>help it, help the aid to make it happen, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not bugging, but that's not the conversation that people

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<v Speaker 1>want to have. You Look, you look at government right

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<v Speaker 1>now and see how it's how it's torn. How does

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<v Speaker 1>bipartisan you know, how the government is trying to be

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<v Speaker 1>ran bipartisan league, you know, and people are comfortable with

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Trump and the old menustration but not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about current people who actually contributed to those things, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because they want to get some type of support from them.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to make it seem like we're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do something different. They don't want to call out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>their colleagues right now because we're in the state where

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's damn sill. It's like a standoff. So this

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<v Speaker 1>administration strategy for success in tails being cool with those

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<v Speaker 1>same people who actually contributed to that reality. So at

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<v Speaker 1>this point they can't even call him out because he

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<v Speaker 1>already got mentioned who don't said fuck y'all. And then

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<v Speaker 1>when when you know he's pretty much on the side,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you got to send them money. You

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<v Speaker 1>got all these people. So they cannot continue to wage

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<v Speaker 1>all of these wars because they don't even have a

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<v Speaker 1>strategy to do it. They don't have a strategy to

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<v Speaker 1>hold anybody accountable. America's not has never been about holding

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<v Speaker 1>white people accountable. You look at the tens of thousand people,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't even got tickets. And you know, I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>the thing where they to the guy said he got

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<v Speaker 1>ten years from being a lookout, and these people will

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<v Speaker 1>never spend a day in jail for for crimes that

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<v Speaker 1>we Peterson, that was Marlon Peterson, that's our guy who

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<v Speaker 1>said Marla Peterson. So when you when you when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at the reality of that. Right when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at during the George Floyd protests, people are

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<v Speaker 1>out there getting five years and ten years and all

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<v Speaker 1>types of ship for for protesting against injustice. And these

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<v Speaker 1>people who who stormed the Capitol or not even going

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<v Speaker 1>to when you look at that reality, tell of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a handful. There's a hand literally, not even

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<v Speaker 1>like when you said a handful, it's literally a handful

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<v Speaker 1>of people. It might be it might be twenty people.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We haven't done in numbers, but it

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<v Speaker 1>certainly isn't the thousands exactly that were there exactly. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you understand that reality, then you understand what America

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<v Speaker 1>is built on. Then you understand what this administration said

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<v Speaker 1>it can do and what it is trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>in the strategy that is utilizing to try to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you understand that, of course they can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't continue to make more enemies the administration is

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<v Speaker 1>they lost right now like then we thought we had

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<v Speaker 1>a little we can't continue to make more and more.

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<v Speaker 1>And even though it's on the side of justice, even

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<v Speaker 1>though we know it's the right thing to do. We

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<v Speaker 1>gotta try to win some of them over. So politics

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<v Speaker 1>is a fucked up thing. The politics, it's fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>Politics itself is a bunch of bullshit. You gotta deal

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<v Speaker 1>with this, you gotta take this, you gotta you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>compromise a bunch of ship. And when you don't know that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're just looking from the outside and you're just

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<v Speaker 1>looking in, you're like, damn, I don't get it. Funk

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<v Speaker 1>all that. But when you start to really realize it

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<v Speaker 1>is not designed for us. Politics is not designed for

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<v Speaker 1>us people of you know color, people who are living

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<v Speaker 1>in poverty, who live in communities of color. It is

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<v Speaker 1>not really designed to benefit us. We are the things

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<v Speaker 1>that are used to fuel it. So we're want us

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<v Speaker 1>go over. But two things can exist at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not designed for us. However, we have to exercise

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<v Speaker 1>our political power because and that's what we have outside

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<v Speaker 1>it's not designed for us. So it's like we have

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to take it over from there. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why when you know, that's why I understanding how important

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<v Speaker 1>voting is. You know, voting is a point because you

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<v Speaker 1>continue to rip away fibers of it by putting new

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<v Speaker 1>people with new ideas that can challenge old structures and

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<v Speaker 1>challenge old laws and old concepts, constantly putting something that says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, this low don't really make sense. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to implement this. This doesn't really make sense. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to implement this. So that's why voting is a point.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna just completely change the structure, but gradually

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<v Speaker 1>what you do is you create something new from the inside.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna tear it up because you're yelling at

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<v Speaker 1>the build and say, yo, I don't gonna fox that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to know. You have to go in

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<v Speaker 1>and take ship out and say we're gonna throw this away.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna throw this away, We're gonna build this this infustray,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna rebuild this room piece by piece. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. And I think in Minnesota we saw

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<v Speaker 1>an example of that by having um, you know, Keith

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<v Speaker 1>Ellison to be elected as an attorney general. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>have Lee Merit running for attorney general in Texas. We

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<v Speaker 1>gotta put people and and and by the way, those

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<v Speaker 1>are some high level positions. We got Shanique Chal's running

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<v Speaker 1>for Assembly UM in New York City. Uh, in New

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<v Speaker 1>York State, you have Jamanni Williams running for governor. So

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<v Speaker 1>some people it's like, how can he be governor? Why not?

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<v Speaker 1>Why you any be governor? You know? So there is there.

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<v Speaker 1>We do have to make sure that while you, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, you tear down and build up at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, but you never divest and just completely walk

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<v Speaker 1>away from systems that we actually functioned as part of.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think those things, you know, all of these

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<v Speaker 1>things matter, and that's what really kind of we We've

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<v Speaker 1>got to stay focused and today you are focused. So

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<v Speaker 1>as promise today we had with us I would resident

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<v Speaker 1>brand expert LaToya Bond. She's gonna be doing a full

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<v Speaker 1>recap of some of our best small businesses throughout the year. LaToya,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you doing today? I'm doing good? How y'all

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<v Speaker 1>doing doing good? Than because they happy? Yeah? Happy? Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you? Black Queen as I am, Yes from That's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the swatter is actually from one of our

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<v Speaker 1>small black businesses, Black Woman's Lost Matter. I'm gonna girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Jamility Davis has a lot of bombs shirts. Make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that get one need a black king, one black We

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<v Speaker 1>need some many, we need some real energy we need, Toya.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta get some black men, some men up here

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<v Speaker 1>to give us some good products, some small because they

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<v Speaker 1>out did. I agree. That's my goal, my golden years,

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<v Speaker 1>to find more men friendly topics because all y'all run everything,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all got all the clothes, y'all got all the topics.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be jumping me up here, you know, every week.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try to make this

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<v Speaker 1>a little more minute up here. Yeah, maybe one of

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<v Speaker 1>the topics could be like, why is it so hard

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<v Speaker 1>to find them in the mail? You know, black old

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<v Speaker 1>male businesses, because the women you're gonna instagram, they're like

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<v Speaker 1>boom boom boom boom, how bing bang for the mail

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<v Speaker 1>if you gotta go search them, hashtag them. So, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>she's gonna help us to do better with that in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two. That's my that's my goal, man. So Toyo,

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<v Speaker 1>we know that you are resident brand experts. Were letting

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<v Speaker 1>people know, like what do you do in totality? Tell

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<v Speaker 1>them how how much of a black queen you actually are?

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. I love that too. Okay. My name's

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<v Speaker 1>LaToya Bond. I am brand strategists. Um I help women

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<v Speaker 1>mainly and some men build seven figure brands, UM, whether

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<v Speaker 1>that brand is a tangible brand, or it's a service

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<v Speaker 1>based brand, or it's a person that is a brand.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do that through a system that I like

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<v Speaker 1>to call a I S model, which is authority, influence

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<v Speaker 1>and strategies. So we we make a strategy to help

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<v Speaker 1>them build authority in a niche, and then we use

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<v Speaker 1>that authority to build influence, and then you monetize that

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<v Speaker 1>influence which helps you build a seventh figure brand. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and I smart, he's not smart, And certainly, UM, you

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<v Speaker 1>have worked with me for the last seven years. How

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<v Speaker 1>long have we been working It's been a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been working together since I think twenty six, like

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<v Speaker 1>officially before the Women's March. Absolutely, and then at some

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<v Speaker 1>point you acquired my son, UM and so many people

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<v Speaker 1>around we all come to you for business ideas. For UM,

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<v Speaker 1>you to be our layers on to work with people,

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<v Speaker 1>because especially for me, I either won't ask or don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be bothered, like you know, just because I

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<v Speaker 1>have the fear of um, you know, not wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>ask for money, the fear of what people will say

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<v Speaker 1>when I demand pay for compensation, for my time, for

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<v Speaker 1>my ideas, for my energy, and working with you. That's

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<v Speaker 1>been one thing that we have conquered together is that no,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to be a part of a project

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<v Speaker 1>and there is money in the project, I should actually

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<v Speaker 1>be compensated. Because too many of our black leaders have

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<v Speaker 1>died without without resources, without money, And we said, we

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<v Speaker 1>do not what you call is subscribe to that model.

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<v Speaker 1>We do us teacher ship. That's not you're not doing

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<v Speaker 1>exactly and and and being compensated. Well, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're if you're part of a project that's generated millions

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<v Speaker 1>billions of dollars you and you're the main talent or

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<v Speaker 1>even you know, one of the main talents, you should

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<v Speaker 1>be compensated well for that project. And there's nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 1>about that. There's nothing that you should feel guilty about that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the other thing is being able to monetize

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<v Speaker 1>some of your influence and reach and create a business

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself and your family, your mom. You have parents

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<v Speaker 1>that an agent that you're gonna have to take care of.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to be able to have an income so

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<v Speaker 1>you can take care of your family. And there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>that you should feel guilty about ever, I've been trying

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<v Speaker 1>to tell her that for years. I'm glad you've got it. Period,

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<v Speaker 1>like the younger people would say, on period on period.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell us about these businesses that we watch this video.

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<v Speaker 1>We see all the businesses that you bring to us

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<v Speaker 1>every week. Um, you know, we're soliciting others to send

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<v Speaker 1>us their businesses, and we always say, make sure it's

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<v Speaker 1>a real business. Like if you tell some of our people,

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<v Speaker 1>they say they got a business, but they want you

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<v Speaker 1>to cash at them for the we need. You need,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to account, You need all of your information

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<v Speaker 1>in order so you can really you know, so we

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<v Speaker 1>can really actually support So talk about some of these businesses.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to talk about all of them, but a

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<v Speaker 1>few of the brands that we saw. Okay, So I

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<v Speaker 1>will say, first of all, this this started from you

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<v Speaker 1>and my son as an extension of your activism because

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to make sure that we highlighted black businesses.

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<v Speaker 1>Because when we're talking about a path to black people

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<v Speaker 1>getting the hand, entrepreneurship and building wealth is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the main ways that we're gonna be able to build

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<v Speaker 1>power in this country. And then using your platform to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to highlight some of these small businesses is

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<v Speaker 1>one way that you guys can't give back and that

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<v Speaker 1>you do choose to give back. UM. So we have

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<v Speaker 1>a few businesses that we've highlighted over the years. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about um some of them. UM. One of them

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<v Speaker 1>is called Just Breed. The owner's name is Precious of

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<v Speaker 1>Bocleia Evans and UM. That brand is only about mental

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<v Speaker 1>wellness and self care, which is something that we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot and that we all subscribe to. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a box that basically help people, UM meditate,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it helps you feel comfortable meditating because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people think that meditation and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>crystals and that and that whole realm of things goes

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<v Speaker 1>against spirituality, and and it really doesn't. They both they

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<v Speaker 1>really work, Um, they really work hands in hand together.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what her brand is about, is showing you

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<v Speaker 1>that this is not something that's separate from it is

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<v Speaker 1>something that you can use in conjunction with your spirituality

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<v Speaker 1>to just really help you take a mindful moment for

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and just breathe, you know. So it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a self care box. It includes the eye pillow,

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<v Speaker 1>that you can heat or cool to kind of help

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<v Speaker 1>you relax. It includes like a starter bag of crystals

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<v Speaker 1>that you can carry with you in your purse. And

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<v Speaker 1>really it just helps you deal with like anxiety or

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<v Speaker 1>moments when you're not feeling quite well. You know you

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<v Speaker 1>can you you kind of learn what the testimer is doing.

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<v Speaker 1>You take those moments to help round you. There's also

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of other things in a box what I

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<v Speaker 1>won't go into all enough because we have, but check

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<v Speaker 1>it out. We have, we don't have a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of time, but make sure you guys check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>No Precious, you know we've had her on the show

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<v Speaker 1>and I've actually worked with Precious personally for mental health

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<v Speaker 1>issues as well as professionally. She's really the jack of

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<v Speaker 1>all trades. But her specific um passion to help us

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<v Speaker 1>be more mindful. It's so important. We just learned that

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<v Speaker 1>a very close friend of ours um that his daughter

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<v Speaker 1>committed suicide just in the last few days. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>these these are people who are very progressive, They are

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<v Speaker 1>very you know, they are spiritual, they are their activists,

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<v Speaker 1>they are smart, they're great family and yet still they

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<v Speaker 1>lost their child to something that folks generally would say, well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have it together, suicide won't be an issue

0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:04.600
<v Speaker 1>in your family, and that's so not true. And Precious

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<v Speaker 1>has been trying to help us understand that we have

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to to to get rid of these

0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:13.600
<v Speaker 1>negative thoughts in our mind that says if you sit

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<v Speaker 1>with yourself, if you meditate, if you use your crystals,

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<v Speaker 1>if you use your sage, that you're crazy or that

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<v Speaker 1>you're weak, crazy, and wicked. Because those are some of yes, wicked, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to Precious child. Um. One of the other

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<v Speaker 1>brands that we have that's been actually one about very

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<v Speaker 1>very popular episode is called Candlelucks and it's a smoking

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<v Speaker 1>accessories brands, and Um, the owner of this brand, wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to find a way to get into the legal cannabis

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<v Speaker 1>industry and doing her research her name is Tory owens Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and doing her research, she realized that the licenses were

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<v Speaker 1>extremely hard to get from black people, of course, and

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<v Speaker 1>extremely expensive. We're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>of investment if you want to do like a dispensary.

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<v Speaker 1>So she figured out a way to get into the

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<v Speaker 1>business in a way that was attainable. So she started

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<v Speaker 1>art Deco Smoking Accessories line, which looks like basically looks

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<v Speaker 1>like furniture or art pieces or home decor um. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a line of accessories and includes ashtrays and pipes and

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<v Speaker 1>things of that sort, a lot of accessories that you

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<v Speaker 1>can use to indulge and it's pretty dope and it

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<v Speaker 1>has been doing really, really well. And her goal is

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<v Speaker 1>to use the profits from that to not only sustain

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<v Speaker 1>her family, but also to save enough so that she

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<v Speaker 1>can get into the dispensary business because she feels like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as people of color, we have been we

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<v Speaker 1>have gotten the worst part of the of the cannabis

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<v Speaker 1>industry for so long. So now that it's legalizing, it's

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<v Speaker 1>becoming a multibillion dollar industry, we need our seat at

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<v Speaker 1>the table as well. So you can smoke, So you

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<v Speaker 1>can smoke every No, her is not to feel guilty about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's the time when you feel guilty about indulgence.

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<v Speaker 1>Should be should be something of the of the past.

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<v Speaker 1>Indulgence that word get you a little week for your nerves,

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<v Speaker 1>for your nerves, for your mental health, for yourself care,

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<v Speaker 1>all of those things. Another brand we talked about is

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<v Speaker 1>Black Woman's Loves Matter, which is UH lifestyle brand that

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<v Speaker 1>uplifts and profiles black women. And then they and they

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<v Speaker 1>also have a lot of account that goes along with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Super dope comfortable hoodies and T shirts and um the

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<v Speaker 1>owner's Humility Davis, which has she has a really really,

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<v Speaker 1>really good story. If you guys know her. If you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you google her and make sure you support

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<v Speaker 1>that business as well. Black Women's Lives Matter. Listen, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have one of my sweatshirts on today if you

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<v Speaker 1>go back and check. Last week, I had on a

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<v Speaker 1>green sweater that said I Love being a Black woman.

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<v Speaker 1>And I went in my closet and just happen to

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<v Speaker 1>find these green uptowns and I was like super flied, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all of my Black Women's Lives Matter sweatshirts

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<v Speaker 1>that I have T shirts and sweatshirts their real moments

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm walking the streets, when I you know, fix

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<v Speaker 1>it up with my whatever, your your little skirt, your

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<v Speaker 1>jeans or whatever. It's a high low option and it's

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<v Speaker 1>fly and fashionable, but yet it has a message that

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:33.679
<v Speaker 1>we can get out to the world. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>support Black Women's Lives Matter with everything and it's and

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:40.080
<v Speaker 1>it's a silent statement. And they also have a tribute

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<v Speaker 1>shirt to our own to mek A D. Mallory, which

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<v Speaker 1>is their number one seller, So make sure you guys

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<v Speaker 1>check it out and compito. It's okay to wear a

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<v Speaker 1>sweater that says something that is positive about black women.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't put where the one that says I love

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<v Speaker 1>being a black woman because clearly you're not. How but

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<v Speaker 1>you know? And that's that's a conversation because even sometimes

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:10.720
<v Speaker 1>I think about it and I make myself do it anyway,

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Like when I'm going to certain places, I'm like, do

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to be walking through the airport in Texas?

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:18.879
<v Speaker 1>You know where I love being a black woman sweatshirt?

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, if you even have to think about

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 1>doing that, that's even more want to do it? Yes,

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 1>good tell jall, I need my package. He's been sending

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:38.840
<v Speaker 1>me a package. I just got this for christ Okay, okay.

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:43.879
<v Speaker 1>Next up as Rhythm, which is mother spelled backwards. We

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:47.760
<v Speaker 1>love Rhythm because it is a lifestyle brand for moms

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:50.679
<v Speaker 1>that on the weekends, you know, you have to be

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>a soccer mom or a basketball mom. A weekend mom.

0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:56.240
<v Speaker 1>We'd like to call them, and a lot of times

0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 1>you gotta be on the go, right, and so you

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 1>still want to look cute, or even if you have

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:02.680
<v Speaker 1>to go to like a game after work, you don't

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:04.679
<v Speaker 1>want to necessarily show up in your suit, but you

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:07.680
<v Speaker 1>still want to be cute and fashionable. So Rhythm is

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 1>a lifestyle brand that creates really cute, um stylish pieces

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:15.399
<v Speaker 1>for mom that are comfortable and functional and easy to

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 1>throw on and still be cute and still be cute.

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 1>So I wore this finally, finally vest the other day

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 1>with some silver um. I don't know what those are called?

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:30.920
<v Speaker 1>My song, what are those sneakers called? I wear two

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:35.359
<v Speaker 1>different kinds of sneakers. I wear air Max, I have

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 1>some all silver air Max. I had this on with

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 1>a little white sweat suit, and I was you, honey, you.

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:45.879
<v Speaker 1>And the thing is that she has a lot of

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>loungewear and streetwear, but she also has pieces like that

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 1>that you know would be considered casual, that you can't

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 1>wear to work and that you can't wear to the office.

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 1>So we're to like a business meeting or something like that.

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:00.880
<v Speaker 1>So she's really good. Check them out. Hym there spell backwards,

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:16.120
<v Speaker 1>So she get some fathers collaboration happening, this collaboration. Yeah,

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>we have to tell it could be a collaboration. No, no, no,

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 1>we got daddish. That is just the other version of rhythm.

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:27.239
<v Speaker 1>That's the that's the bad version of rhythm. Okay. Next up,

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 1>we have one of my favorite favorite products. It's called

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 1>shampoo tom Bat. This is actually an innovative invention inependent

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Um product that was developed my mom that has a

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 1>beautiful daughter with a lot of hair, and shampoo tom

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 1>was just horrible for her, Like she just her daughter

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>would cry and it was something that she was dread

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and doing. You know, she would go weeks without watching

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 1>her daughter here because it was it was just such turmoil.

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:57.959
<v Speaker 1>So she created Matt. The Matt kind of fits on

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>your countertops so that you could comfortably reclined into the

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 1>sink like you would do in a hair salon. And

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>then it has uh, it has a piece that you

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 1>put over it which is easy to put together, and

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you can attach your iPad or iPhone to it or

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 1>any or android. And so the kid is entertained while

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>washing it here and they literally forget about it. I

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>saw the mom hit me up and said, you know

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I haven't evention. I want to know what you think

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 1>about it. By the time she went to text me

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>something else, I had a ready ordered one because as

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>soon as I saw it, I'm like, oh my god,

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I gotta have this. But I was having the same problem.

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 1>It literally took off like hotcakes because it's a it's

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>a product that sells itself. Any woman of color, viracial mom,

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 1>you know of a viracial child that sees this product

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>is gonna buy it in five seconds exactly. Yeah, because

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 1>you said, most of all getting our hair washed when

0:29:56.880 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>we were it was abuse. They they should have been

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>somebody should have been locked up for the way that

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 1>we were treated to watch. They didn't have a mat,

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have all this new technology. You had to

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>stick your head which ever kind of way, and that's see.

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 1>And if you didn't back right to the to your forehead,

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 1>can't breathe. The water is in your face. You'd better

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>not cry, just dr it. Just what it hurts. And

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 1>so I love that product. When I first saw it,

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't have any a daughter, but when I saw

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>the product, I was immediately like, oh, I know everybody

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 1>is going to want to purchase this if they have

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>a daughter, especially a young daughter, and they have to

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>wash their own here. So I love that product. She

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:44.479
<v Speaker 1>launched in April of the pandemic and by the end

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 1>of the year she had already made a quarter of

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>a million dollars in sales. That's just how great the

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>product was with with no no page. She didn't pay

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 1>for any advertising, any marketing, just word about and people

0:30:56.720 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>seeing the product in love it. It's definitely a hero product.

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Abolutely love it. Love it. Unto Freedom is one of

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 1>the products that we featured this year and this okay, see,

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 1>that's a product that gives back. So part of activism

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 1>is being able to have money to do the things

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>that you guys calling them to do. When you say

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I want you to fly to Texas or Alabama or

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Mississippi or Boston or whatever to come help me and

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.239
<v Speaker 1>my family, it takes money to do that. They have

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 1>to have income to be able to fly to these places,

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 1>to um whold rallies, which could sometimes course hundreds of

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>thousands of dollars. In order for them to activate, they

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>have to have the finances to activate. And we always

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 1>like to say that you guys should invest in until

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Freedom a way to invest in Alto Freedom is to

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 1>support their business, which is the Until Freedom merch which

0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 1>is a collection of really really fly streetwear and loungewear

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 1>that is comfortable and it's fashionable and it's great quality,

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and it gives back. That money goes directly to Unto

0:31:58.120 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Freedom to help them with all of the things that

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>they do for us every day freedom. That's what I'm told.

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I love my Until Freedom sweatsuits. I love my unto

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Freedom stuff too. Yeah, I'm wearing it with heels. I'm

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 1>wearing it, you know, dressed down, dress up, and people

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>are loving it. Everywhere I go. Folks want they want it,

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:19.959
<v Speaker 1>and you know, and I think also it is a

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 1>message until freedom means something, whether you're a part of

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 1>the organization and or just being somebody who's out here

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>in the world that says, until freedom, until freedom, we're

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 1>fighting until freedom. We just we out here, we exist. So,

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you want to support our work, as

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>LaToya has said, do what you can to well, I

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>think what's important is that you get something. It's not

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>like you're just giving your money just investing in our lives.

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>You also get a product. How are you got surprised

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 1>by how well the merchant has done. Nic Soon is

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 1>not surprised and so lives in faith. He walks, so

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 1>he walks into right. I just believe. I believe, you know,

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the cause of until Freedom itself is something that's so big,

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, and that more people once they see what

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 1>it is that we do and acknowledge and understand what

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 1>it takes to do it, they're gonna want to be

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>involved with it. But I just also feels like I

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>was symbol you know, the clothing itself is something that

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>people like, you know, I like it. I don't really

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of stuff, and most people that I

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>that I that actually have our clothing like it. So

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, we this is something we

0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>need to focus on. So I'm definitely not surprised, and

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna go up this year. Yeah. It's

0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:38.280
<v Speaker 1>a It's a conversation starter too, because people usually asked, like,

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 1>what's until freedom? Then you get to tell them all

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>about themselves and why they need to buy it. That's right.

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 1>So we are continuing this for two. If you are

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>a business owner with a real business, you know, meaning

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:53.959
<v Speaker 1>you write your business right, because the one thing we

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 1>don't want to do with feature of business and then

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 1>get our d m s and emails flooded because we

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>recommended a business that didn't right by the customers. If

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 1>you have a viable business, DM the atreet Politicians DM

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:07.479
<v Speaker 1>and we'll tell you how you can submit your business

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 1>to be featured on the show. Absolutely. So to your

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 1>point about promoting businesses that don't take care of their

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>customers properly, that's something we have to talk about. You know.

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:23.440
<v Speaker 1>We often try to kind of like hide certain things,

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 1>like right like we don't want I don't want to

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>we want you to support black businesses, so we don't

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:30.880
<v Speaker 1>really want to talk about the negative experiences that people have.

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:33.320
<v Speaker 1>But I have to talk about it because the truth

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 1>is the truth. There are businesses that I have tried

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:40.439
<v Speaker 1>to support and the customer service is trash. The way

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>you're treated um also the time in terms of how

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:48.280
<v Speaker 1>you receive your product, like people who are really slow

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:51.440
<v Speaker 1>at getting their product out, the way the product comes,

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 1>how you can't get in touch with people, it's it's

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 1>it's a disaster like and by the way, and and

0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:00.880
<v Speaker 1>that is just for products, but service says like going

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>to a salon to get your hair done, having to

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 1>wait for hours and hours on end. You know, people

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>canceling appointments thinking that they are more important than you

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>when you're the one paying for the service. There's so

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>many things. I have a nail, a young lady who

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 1>does nails. She is incredible, incredible. I would put her

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 1>up against whoever you name it, who cartis nail. It

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter who's nails. She can't be on time. She can,

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 1>she just cannot be on time. So, as a brand manager,

0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 1>how are you encouraging people to tighten up the business?

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that that is the foundation of building a

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 1>business and really branding, right. So when you talk about

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 1>building a brand, and that's why I always say that

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:52.359
<v Speaker 1>we're looking for brands, We're not just looking for people

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>to have like a side hustle, because I don't think

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>that they're looking at the brand as something that's scalable

0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's gonna be around for a long time. When

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:04.319
<v Speaker 1>you talk about building legacy businesses and that all of

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 1>those things matter, that the pact, it didn't matter the

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 1>shipping type, the ship and time matters. Being transparent with

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 1>your consumers and letting them know it's gonna take X

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:16.440
<v Speaker 1>amount of time to receive a product before they buy

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 1>is going to save you a lot of headaches. So

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that with social media, right, I want to say,

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:25.320
<v Speaker 1>there's two things that have helped us as a culture

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 1>um gain power and be able to gain wealth, right,

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 1>and one is hip hop and one is on social

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:35.400
<v Speaker 1>media because social media allows us and hip hop allows

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 1>allows us to get a lot of influence and then

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:40.879
<v Speaker 1>we're able to monetize that influence. So with social media,

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 1>you have direct, direct access to consumers and you're able

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.359
<v Speaker 1>to start a business. I have a lot of people

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 1>that come to me and they're making seven figures in

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 1>their business. They don't even have a tax ID number, right,

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 1>so they you have to go, well, have to go

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 1>back to the ground floor with them and really give

0:36:56.280 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>them the funds and fundamentals of starting, launching, running the business,

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>and just creating a sustainable business model so that you

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 1>have repeat buyers and you have return customers, because you

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:10.760
<v Speaker 1>can't sustain a business if everybody is a one time customer.

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:13.319
<v Speaker 1>You need customers that's gonna come back again and again

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:15.359
<v Speaker 1>and again and recommend you to their friend in order

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 1>for you to get to a point where that business

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 1>is something that is going past the point where you're

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 1>making six figures, because that's one of the things you

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:26.800
<v Speaker 1>always see. All of these are stats that says black

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:30.399
<v Speaker 1>women are starting business is faster than any other any

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:35.880
<v Speaker 1>other demographic. However, a large percentage of our business I

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:38.839
<v Speaker 1>want to say, like maybe something for said, don't get

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 1>past the six figure marks. They don't exceed making more

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 1>than a hundred thousand dollars a year. And the reason

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>why is a lot of things, a lot of the

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:49.320
<v Speaker 1>things that you're talking about. But with that, I would

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:52.440
<v Speaker 1>say that people should give small businesses a little bit

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 1>of grace too, because they're not Amazon. Amazon is a

0:37:56.239 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 1>beast right that is a multibillion dollar in fire that

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 1>can get you products in a day. A small business

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 1>is not gonna be able to do that. They're not

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to get you products, especially a business

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 1>that's starting not that's in the negociative business. They're not

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:14.319
<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to match up with the Amazon. So

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>it's unfair for us to want to deal with them

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 1>that same way, same way we want to go to

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 1>the Amazon page and leave a customer service question in

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 1>the d M. You shouldn't do that to a business either,

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 1>like they may not have the capability to respond to

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:31.319
<v Speaker 1>you in a d M. You know. So I think

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 1>that it's two folds. Number one, the business owners need

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:38.360
<v Speaker 1>to really go into business wanted to run their business

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 1>like a business. And then even if you started, and

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:43.840
<v Speaker 1>there has to come a point where you realize that

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 1>in order for me to sustain this business, I kind

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 1>of gotta do some homework and and do some cleaning

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:51.799
<v Speaker 1>up and make sure that you community communicate that to

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 1>your customers. Customers love good brand story if you're transparent

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 1>with them and you say I messed up, you know,

0:38:57.480 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I know it hasn't been the best, but these are

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the things that I'm doing to make it better and

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:03.759
<v Speaker 1>I want you guys to stick with me a lot

0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 1>of time. Those customers are going to appreciate that and

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:11.879
<v Speaker 1>stick with you. Good information. Well, I think there should

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 1>be I want to start a school that you know,

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I have a million, thousands, a thousand ideas, but you

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 1>got that, Hey, I want to start at school that

0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 1>focuses on customer service and also cleanliness. Right, Like, I

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 1>go to so many restaurants and places and just just

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:39.200
<v Speaker 1>in general and just be like, why can't we be

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 1>just do a little bit better. And I think some

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 1>people just have never learned. They don't They think that

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:47.759
<v Speaker 1>they can treat their business the way that they treat

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 1>the conversations that they have with their friends, and actually

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:56.239
<v Speaker 1>you can't. And there is the challenge of taking your

0:39:56.320 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 1>friendships into a professional round. Yeah down the way in

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:03.239
<v Speaker 1>which we were when you used to just you know,

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 1>hook me up with some hair. On the side, I

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be treated the same way when it

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 1>comes to now your prices have gone up. Now I

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 1>have to come to a salon. You're not just doing

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 1>my hair in your kitchen sink. So you're supposed to

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:18.400
<v Speaker 1>treat me a certain way, and I, as the customer,

0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 1>should treat you a certain way as well. And I

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 1>think there's there's not enough conversations about that happening where

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 1>people can check themselves, both the customer and the provider.

0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's something else that you should include

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 1>in your bond brand management sphere. MEK a school of

0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>great customer service. And I will say this, if you

0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 1>can to me happy myself, you all gotta worry because

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 1>her level of excellence, it's gonna be tought. Not if

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 1>you get her as a happy customer then you're gonna

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 1>be You're gonna be good, you know. But but I

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:01.919
<v Speaker 1>think that's okay you speaking me, because she'll be happy

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:04.239
<v Speaker 1>for five seconds. You'll come to a place this is

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:06.960
<v Speaker 1>just nice, and then she'll come back and like, I

0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>don't like this place anymore. It's dirty. I saw it.

0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I saw it a little. I've seen a little roach. No,

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:17.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm the same way though, it comes to stuff like that.

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 1>And the thing is the good thing about it is

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 1>that when you do get good customer service, like when

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:25.920
<v Speaker 1>I go somewhere and it exceeds my expectation, like this cabin,

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:29.759
<v Speaker 1>for example, it was better than the pictures, like they

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 1>had let cusett on pots in the kitchen, you know,

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:39.920
<v Speaker 1>like everything was like five star, top notch. And I'm like, okay,

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to come here every time. We gotta break

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 1>because it's the service was that good. When you exceed

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:48.800
<v Speaker 1>somebody's expectation, you gotta get a lifelong client, and that

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 1>is where that's worth. You put in the extra effort

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>into making sure that they feel appreciated and that they

0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:57.279
<v Speaker 1>get the service. Yeah, and that's what that's That's what

0:41:57.400 --> 0:41:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I said to my son. Don't say little because I

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>don't look and be like, oh, it's one little thing.

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 1>It's a whole experience. And also, I do not feel

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:08.840
<v Speaker 1>that I should have to spend my money for people

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 1>to bring me silverware that has food left over on it,

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 1>glasses that has someone's lipstick on it. I don't want

0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 1>to have that. That's not fair to me that I

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 1>have to drink and eat behind the customer before. And

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:22.839
<v Speaker 1>there is a way to make sure that that's not

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the case, because other people do it, so you have

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 1>to figure out how you do it as well. It's

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:30.360
<v Speaker 1>a little extra work. It may require you to have

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:32.400
<v Speaker 1>a different type of you know, spend more money on

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:35.800
<v Speaker 1>a solution or whatever. But to your point, as a customer,

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm coming back and I'm bringing the village along with me.

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:43.400
<v Speaker 1>So thank you the Toivan, thank you guys for having

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:49.400
<v Speaker 1>me here, for being for being here in farted A

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 1>my star know so my started that that that matters.

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:56.279
<v Speaker 1>But I will say that it's the going with the expectation, right.

0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:59.880
<v Speaker 1>If it's not a five star place, you can't expect

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I star service. You know. Tomka to Maka might disagree

0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 1>with that, but the service at a five star hotel

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:09.839
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be different from a three star hotel, you know,

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:12.560
<v Speaker 1>and a real truth star hotel. You and I go

0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:14.520
<v Speaker 1>in with that mindset, like if I know we gotta stay,

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 1>that can't do end because that's the only place in

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 1>the area you might find it. Head on the floor,

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:24.400
<v Speaker 1>but she cannot be. No, I don't need toist family dirty,

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>but you might. I don't here on the floor in

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 1>the baskett. I don't even accept that because I know

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:32.759
<v Speaker 1>that there are some places that they don't they don't

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:35.040
<v Speaker 1>do that. I think they're you should we should not

0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 1>ever be okay with um, dirt and things not being clean. Now.

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I understand if that means you don't have like a

0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:47.720
<v Speaker 1>kitchen where you're able to do twenty four hour room service.

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I understand if the furniture is not you know, freaking

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 1>up today today and you don't have when you call

0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:58.399
<v Speaker 1>it frette um bed sheets, and you know, I get

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:01.360
<v Speaker 1>all of that, but it being me going in the

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 1>shower and having to deal with somebody's left over hair

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 1>that's not okay. Well so so cleanliness should be the basis,

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:13.919
<v Speaker 1>the basics. Anything you've got it, Thank you, We love you,

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 1>love you too, love peace. I don't know why you

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:27.319
<v Speaker 1>always want to try to like diminish my or or

0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 1>make fun of me when I say that things need

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 1>to be clean. I just don't get it. I'm confused

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>that I think my that your I don't get it

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:45.319
<v Speaker 1>is my issue with you today. Yeah, I don't get

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 1>it is your issue with me. I don't even get it.

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I still don't get it. It's not that I try

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:55.840
<v Speaker 1>to diminish. I just think that, like I tell you,

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>all the time, I was in jail, Right so, my expectation,

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 1>tolerance for certain things and understanding that most time ship

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 1>is not gonna be what you wanted to be is

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 1>different for you. So I don't I don't think I

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:13.920
<v Speaker 1>have as high expectations as you do. Right, So, especially

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 1>if if we go to places where just regular places,

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't most of these businesses and things we go

0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:23.399
<v Speaker 1>to that somewhere in the hood or not in five

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 1>star areas is because they operating off a shoestring budget, right,

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 1>So a lot of the people there are not being

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:32.799
<v Speaker 1>paid well enough to do all the things that you

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 1>think or believe. They're not being paid. They're not saying

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 1>like they might be working at this job for two

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:39.080
<v Speaker 1>or three weeks and quit. You know what I'm saying,

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 1>They're constantly trying to find people to work. This is

0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:43.399
<v Speaker 1>not it's not what they don't really have. Most people

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:45.960
<v Speaker 1>don't really have job stability, especially if you're looking through

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the pandemic right now, most people ain't even working in

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:52.160
<v Speaker 1>inside of the you know, into the industries that we're

0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:57.040
<v Speaker 1>talking about, like you know, hotels and in in eitheries

0:45:57.040 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 1>and all these things. So my expectations is way different

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:02.880
<v Speaker 1>in yours. But yours has always been this way. It's

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:07.279
<v Speaker 1>always always so that's just who you are. So I think,

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I think my life experience in your life experience have

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 1>us looking through different lenses. And I'm not mad that

0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you do it. But for me, it's just it's not

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:18.399
<v Speaker 1>that serious. I'm not trying to diminish. It's not as

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:21.160
<v Speaker 1>serious for me as it is for you. What I'm

0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:24.680
<v Speaker 1>saying is, first of all, I didn't go I didn't

0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 1>grow up in and I mean I didn't go to prison,

0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:31.800
<v Speaker 1>so I appreciate that. But I grew up in the projects,

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:34.120
<v Speaker 1>which is his own little prison, and I stepped over

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 1>pe and and all kinds of nastiness and crack files

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:42.839
<v Speaker 1>and everything on a regular basis. But my mama kept

0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 1>the inside of our house clean. She didn't have the

0:46:45.719 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 1>mindset that just because we lived in this environment that

0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 1>it meant it was okay for the buildings, you know,

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 1>for our apartment to be run down and so. And

0:46:57.040 --> 0:47:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I know your mama keeps our house clean. So the

0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:04.319
<v Speaker 1>fact that you went to jail should not be an

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:10.239
<v Speaker 1>excuse for people not providing cleanliness and positive attitude when

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 1>somebody is spending their money with you. I just don't

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't see that. And I think in line with

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:19.880
<v Speaker 1>this cold conversation that we're having today around racism in

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:23.360
<v Speaker 1>America and how do we get to the next level,

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:27.080
<v Speaker 1>we as black people are gonna have to raise our

0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:32.279
<v Speaker 1>standards if our cause is going to be more economically focused,

0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 1>where we're gonna look at how do we strengthen our businesses,

0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 1>how do we become you know, we we have to

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:42.479
<v Speaker 1>have an excellent mindset that even with a little bit

0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 1>right when when I went to Haiti, even after an earthquake,

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 1>roads all broke up, streets you know, streets split open,

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:57.840
<v Speaker 1>no food fan in, all kinds of issues. Heavy single

0:47:57.920 --> 0:48:00.000
<v Speaker 1>morning when we got on that bus, we ride through

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:04.840
<v Speaker 1>towns where people had their children hair bowls together, clothes

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 1>looking me. Every single day, those kids will going to

0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 1>school on the way cleaned up, even though they might

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 1>have to go around because the street was split in

0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 1>their neighborhood. It's something about having a level of excellence

0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:23.359
<v Speaker 1>about yourself that we will have to take with us.

0:48:23.360 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 1>We can't just tell people support our businesses. We have

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 1>to also have a mindset of good customer service and

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:33.759
<v Speaker 1>not being and not diminishing somebody or or you know,

0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:36.319
<v Speaker 1>or or making it seem like somebody like me is

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:39.880
<v Speaker 1>crazy because I'm asking for a certain amount of service

0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:44.680
<v Speaker 1>when I'm committed to giving you my money. Well, I

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:47.919
<v Speaker 1>think I think it's in different regards, right, I think

0:48:48.040 --> 0:48:52.640
<v Speaker 1>we all hold different things at high standards. Right. For me,

0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:57.520
<v Speaker 1>it's about respect, right. I think we move around y'all

0:48:57.560 --> 0:49:00.960
<v Speaker 1>tolerate more disrespect than that. Somebody can say or do

0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:05.320
<v Speaker 1>something that I have very zero tolerance and relaxed, relaxed,

0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:08.560
<v Speaker 1>that's not that serious. And and for me, I'm saying, no,

0:49:08.640 --> 0:49:11.919
<v Speaker 1>don't it is that serious. People shouldn't do this. People

0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:14.800
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't do this. So the way that you feel about

0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:17.600
<v Speaker 1>cleanliness and you're giving your money, I understand. I'm just

0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:20.720
<v Speaker 1>saying that's not my pet peeves. We all have different

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:24.520
<v Speaker 1>pet peeves, and we all seek a level of excellence

0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:27.560
<v Speaker 1>in in different fields. I think for me, the way

0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:29.400
<v Speaker 1>people talk and the way people treat you and the

0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:33.840
<v Speaker 1>way people handle you is way more than if something

0:49:34.040 --> 0:49:37.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, the folk got food on him. I'm I

0:49:37.520 --> 0:49:40.440
<v Speaker 1>can watch that off, right. I don't know if it's intentionally.

0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if somebody yo, it's hella disrespectful to

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:46.799
<v Speaker 1>have to eat and drink behind somebody else. But you

0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 1>also don't seem to really get upset when people are

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:53.000
<v Speaker 1>nasty in the restaurant. You'd be like, oh man, I'm

0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:56.799
<v Speaker 1>just hungry, like it's the food good. So I don't

0:49:57.120 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 1>think I have expectations in these type of indu treats right,

0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and in those regards, I just think my expectations. But

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:08.160
<v Speaker 1>in my personal life and close proximity and people around me,

0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:11.239
<v Speaker 1>there's different expectations of certain things, So I don't I

0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:14.400
<v Speaker 1>don't think I have the same expectations of those things.

0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:17.799
<v Speaker 1>So we can agree to agree, but disagree because I

0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:20.839
<v Speaker 1>get it. You have a standard for certain things that

0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:22.839
<v Speaker 1>you like, and I have a standard for certain things

0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:26.879
<v Speaker 1>just in different areas cool. Well, again, I think as

0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:31.440
<v Speaker 1>we go into this next conversation, we need to be thinking.

0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:35.360
<v Speaker 1>While we understand all the things that's wrong with society,

0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:39.400
<v Speaker 1>we also have to take an examination of what will

0:50:39.440 --> 0:50:43.799
<v Speaker 1>help us to grow and be more stable UM. And

0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I think one one of those things is this idea

0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:50.239
<v Speaker 1>that we have to walk with excellence in mind. And

0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not just talking about business owners. I'm talking about

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:55.960
<v Speaker 1>even me, even in the way that I communicate in

0:50:56.000 --> 0:50:58.319
<v Speaker 1>the things that I do, we have to have a

0:50:58.440 --> 0:51:01.400
<v Speaker 1>level of excellence in minds. So I think that brings

0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:05.520
<v Speaker 1>us to this next interview. And I'm you know, I'm

0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:08.520
<v Speaker 1>about to learn some stuff Like I'm all about two.

0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:12.359
<v Speaker 1>I want to be learning and filling myself with information

0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:17.520
<v Speaker 1>and just getting stronger and being able to speak UM

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:20.120
<v Speaker 1>from a from A from a higher level, you know,

0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:22.920
<v Speaker 1>and that and that comes from learning from people like

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:26.880
<v Speaker 1>our next guests. Well, let's get to the interview. So

0:51:26.920 --> 0:51:30.840
<v Speaker 1>on January fourteenth in New York and l A, something

0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:35.680
<v Speaker 1>really really important is happening. A documentary UM that has

0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:38.839
<v Speaker 1>been produced by our next guests will be coming out

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:44.080
<v Speaker 1>really digging into this issue about racism in America. Now

0:51:44.080 --> 0:51:46.120
<v Speaker 1>there's some of you who say, why are we still

0:51:46.160 --> 0:51:49.480
<v Speaker 1>talking about it? Either we know racism exists and or

0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:52.680
<v Speaker 1>they'll say there is no such thing. We had President

0:51:52.719 --> 0:51:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Barack Obama, so racism doesn't exist in America anymore. Um.

0:51:57.719 --> 0:52:00.560
<v Speaker 1>But I think we are from the mindset that if

0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:03.960
<v Speaker 1>we do not constantly revisit history, and not just history

0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:06.919
<v Speaker 1>of yesterday, but history of what is happening in this

0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:11.520
<v Speaker 1>moment um, that we will lose sight of the direction

0:52:11.600 --> 0:52:13.440
<v Speaker 1>that we need to be traveling. And we have to

0:52:13.560 --> 0:52:18.800
<v Speaker 1>constantly remind this country, this nation, remind ourselves as black folks,

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:22.480
<v Speaker 1>remind white folks of their history, and also others who

0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:26.399
<v Speaker 1>are looking in and participating in our society of what

0:52:26.640 --> 0:52:31.440
<v Speaker 1>is happening. Um. And also make sure that our children

0:52:31.800 --> 0:52:34.440
<v Speaker 1>are raised in a world where they know the truth,

0:52:34.520 --> 0:52:37.400
<v Speaker 1>They know the truth about themselves, the truth about oppression.

0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:40.600
<v Speaker 1>And again that we all take on the cause and

0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:43.640
<v Speaker 1>the courage to fight to change it. And so our

0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:48.640
<v Speaker 1>next guest, Mr. Jeffrey Robinson, has produced a documentary called

0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:53.680
<v Speaker 1>who Are We? A Chronicle of Racism in America, and

0:52:53.920 --> 0:52:57.360
<v Speaker 1>he's also the head of the Who Are We Project?

0:52:57.600 --> 0:53:00.560
<v Speaker 1>And we are really really grateful for you being with

0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:03.840
<v Speaker 1>us on Street Politicians today, we want to get into

0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:07.600
<v Speaker 1>this conversation and learn about your project and why you

0:53:07.680 --> 0:53:12.799
<v Speaker 1>actually decided to put a film like this together. Well,

0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:16.680
<v Speaker 1>thank you for the introduction, and uh, it is. It's

0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:20.840
<v Speaker 1>very interesting because it's actually who we are a chronicle

0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:24.279
<v Speaker 1>of racism in America and we are we are project.

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:29.160
<v Speaker 1>But even coming up with that title was something that

0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:33.440
<v Speaker 1>took a lot of work because you kind of said,

0:53:33.719 --> 0:53:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, we can say, oh, we all know about racism,

0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:40.120
<v Speaker 1>what are we still talking about it for? And the

0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:43.239
<v Speaker 1>fact of the matter is that's not really true. And

0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:47.040
<v Speaker 1>if you think about America's reaction to the murder of

0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:49.960
<v Speaker 1>George Floyd and put the fact that it was on

0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:54.000
<v Speaker 1>videotape and everything like that aside, but when people heard

0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:58.360
<v Speaker 1>about it and people were just so outraged and so shocked,

0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:03.360
<v Speaker 1>it was like something like that has never happened before.

0:54:04.680 --> 0:54:09.439
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not talking about Eric Gardner five or six

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:14.160
<v Speaker 1>years ago. I'm talking in until in nineteen fifty five.

0:54:14.880 --> 0:54:20.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking over four thousand black people who were lynched

0:54:21.000 --> 0:54:27.760
<v Speaker 1>documented lynchings between eighteen seventy and nineteen fifty five or so.

0:54:27.760 --> 0:54:32.840
<v Speaker 1>So not knowing history allows you to think that a

0:54:33.000 --> 0:54:37.040
<v Speaker 1>problem that you're facing has roots that only go back

0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:39.719
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years, and so when you try and

0:54:39.800 --> 0:54:43.319
<v Speaker 1>deal with those what i'll call young roots, you think

0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:46.640
<v Speaker 1>you've solved the problem, and then five years later it's

0:54:46.680 --> 0:54:50.400
<v Speaker 1>the exact same thing, and everyone's wondering why didn't this work?

0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:54.719
<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't work because we have never addressed the

0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:59.160
<v Speaker 1>root of the problem, going back to the beginnings of America.

0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:04.640
<v Speaker 1>So who we are is a statement about the truth

0:55:04.800 --> 0:55:10.879
<v Speaker 1>about American history. It's a question about who we are

0:55:11.239 --> 0:55:14.479
<v Speaker 1>really as we think about the good and bad of

0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:18.080
<v Speaker 1>our our history and America and who we want to be,

0:55:18.239 --> 0:55:20.840
<v Speaker 1>and that last one about who we want to be.

0:55:21.960 --> 0:55:25.239
<v Speaker 1>You can't get on the path to who you want

0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:28.640
<v Speaker 1>to be as an individual or a nation without coming

0:55:28.680 --> 0:55:33.160
<v Speaker 1>to grips with who you are in the moment. So

0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:36.560
<v Speaker 1>so that's so that's a very good point, and it

0:55:36.560 --> 0:55:38.719
<v Speaker 1>brings me to a question that I have. We've been

0:55:38.719 --> 0:55:42.560
<v Speaker 1>hearing a lot about critical rece theory lately, and there's

0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:46.080
<v Speaker 1>this big, you know, argument whether it should be told

0:55:46.120 --> 0:55:49.040
<v Speaker 1>in school, whether kids need to know, And based on

0:55:49.120 --> 0:55:52.239
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying, it would it would be an atrocity

0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:54.880
<v Speaker 1>for us not to teach about the history of America

0:55:54.960 --> 0:55:57.959
<v Speaker 1>and its totality. So what why why do you think

0:55:58.000 --> 0:56:03.480
<v Speaker 1>that white people see to be so against racial critical

0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:07.480
<v Speaker 1>race theory in schools and actually just admitting that racism

0:56:07.760 --> 0:56:14.640
<v Speaker 1>is even a part of America. I think that, like anything, uh,

0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:19.960
<v Speaker 1>difficult conversations make people afraid and reluctant. If you can

0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:23.640
<v Speaker 1>think about the most difficult conversation you have ever had

0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:26.960
<v Speaker 1>with someone who is close to you, and think about

0:56:27.000 --> 0:56:29.479
<v Speaker 1>how long it took you to bring it up, how

0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:33.080
<v Speaker 1>nervous you were about talking about it, and then take

0:56:33.160 --> 0:56:36.360
<v Speaker 1>back on a much grander scale, what we are talking

0:56:36.400 --> 0:56:41.839
<v Speaker 1>about here, in my view, is the power of narrative.

0:56:43.000 --> 0:56:48.360
<v Speaker 1>The narrative of America is an incredibly powerful thing. We

0:56:48.440 --> 0:56:53.440
<v Speaker 1>are talking about our origin story. We are talking about

0:56:53.520 --> 0:56:57.600
<v Speaker 1>things that have been fed to all of us since

0:56:57.640 --> 0:57:01.560
<v Speaker 1>we were literally, you know, coming out of the wound.

0:57:02.080 --> 0:57:05.000
<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite bands has a line that says,

0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:08.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's in my honey and it's in my milk.

0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:12.399
<v Speaker 1>It's like, this is how the narrative of America has

0:57:12.440 --> 0:57:15.759
<v Speaker 1>been fed to us, and that narrative is a narrative

0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:20.920
<v Speaker 1>of equality, of heroism, of a problem with slavery. But

0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the Civil War solved that, and then there was the

0:57:23.600 --> 0:57:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Civil Rights movement and everything spine. We elected Barack Obama

0:57:28.240 --> 0:57:31.880
<v Speaker 1>and letting go of that narrative, a narrative that you

0:57:31.920 --> 0:57:35.280
<v Speaker 1>have been fed since you were an infant, is really hard.

0:57:36.240 --> 0:57:39.200
<v Speaker 1>So you know, let's just accept that when you are

0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:43.440
<v Speaker 1>challenging a narrative that has taken four hundred years to build,

0:57:44.000 --> 0:57:47.720
<v Speaker 1>don't be surprised if people get really frightened when you

0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:51.640
<v Speaker 1>start shaking some of the foundation of that narrative. But

0:57:51.760 --> 0:57:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I think people then say, well, I don't want my

0:57:55.200 --> 0:57:59.560
<v Speaker 1>child to feel guilty, and I don't want to feel bad.

0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get blamed for something that happened

0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:07.200
<v Speaker 1>a hundred and fifty years ago. One of the things

0:58:07.200 --> 0:58:10.360
<v Speaker 1>that I think it's it's so important to understand here

0:58:10.640 --> 0:58:17.840
<v Speaker 1>is that critical race theory is a law school curriculum,

0:58:18.000 --> 0:58:27.320
<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with teaching history. Conservative think tanks

0:58:27.800 --> 0:58:32.920
<v Speaker 1>came up with a strategy to call everything about the

0:58:33.080 --> 0:58:37.160
<v Speaker 1>history of anti black racism in America critical race theory

0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:40.480
<v Speaker 1>and then to attack it as critical race theory. And

0:58:40.520 --> 0:58:42.720
<v Speaker 1>you can find you can go and find the people

0:58:42.760 --> 0:58:46.960
<v Speaker 1>who wrote about this. So why would a parent of

0:58:47.000 --> 0:58:50.640
<v Speaker 1>a fourth grader be screaming at a school board meeting.

0:58:51.000 --> 0:58:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Don't teach my client critical race theory when it's not

0:58:54.800 --> 0:59:00.800
<v Speaker 1>being taught. We're talking about is fear. And so the

0:59:00.840 --> 0:59:04.760
<v Speaker 1>way I would start this discustion, this discussion is simply

0:59:04.840 --> 0:59:09.000
<v Speaker 1>with any parents from any political view in America, can

0:59:09.160 --> 0:59:13.640
<v Speaker 1>we agree that we should tell our children the truth

0:59:14.560 --> 0:59:18.440
<v Speaker 1>about history? And if the answer is yes, then we

0:59:18.480 --> 0:59:22.520
<v Speaker 1>don't have a problem because now it's just about telling

0:59:22.560 --> 0:59:25.840
<v Speaker 1>the truth. And if we go and look at what

0:59:26.120 --> 0:59:29.640
<v Speaker 1>has been hidden in plain sight in all of our

0:59:29.720 --> 0:59:35.600
<v Speaker 1>historical documents, the truth is undeniable. Look, America has demonstrated,

0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:38.680
<v Speaker 1>and I said this in the film, America has demonstrated

0:59:38.800 --> 0:59:45.040
<v Speaker 1>its capacity for greatness again and again and again. And

0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:48.000
<v Speaker 1>America is one of the most racist countries on the

0:59:48.040 --> 0:59:51.720
<v Speaker 1>face of the earth. Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

0:59:52.120 --> 0:59:56.040
<v Speaker 1>And until we reckon with the latter part of that,

0:59:56.960 --> 1:00:00.200
<v Speaker 1>we are not going to move to who we are,

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<v Speaker 1>who we want to be, who we claim to be

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<v Speaker 1>as a country. So I really think it is fear

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<v Speaker 1>of a difficult conversation and fear that the narrative in

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<v Speaker 1>America is going to change now. But you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>would go a step further and saying, because you said

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<v Speaker 1>that if you are close to someone, it's difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>have a certain type of conversation, I would say, also,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know you have wronged that person, if you

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<v Speaker 1>know you have done something um to hurt them, it's

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<v Speaker 1>even harder to go and sit and have the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think a lot of it has to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the fact that there is there is a level

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<v Speaker 1>of guilt and or acknowledgement that we have done something.

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<v Speaker 1>But not only have we done it, we haven't corrected it.

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<v Speaker 1>Still to today, we have not corrected the wrongs of

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<v Speaker 1>our ancestors, and we don't want to. We don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to have the conversation. To your point, we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. I think I think you make a really

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<v Speaker 1>good point, and it's really important because when there is

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<v Speaker 1>this element of guilt or responsibility, that makes it doubly harder.

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<v Speaker 1>And and the other point you made is there is

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<v Speaker 1>the acknowledgement of what happened, and nobody alive today owned

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<v Speaker 1>an enslaved person. Nobody alive today was supporting slavery, but

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<v Speaker 1>what have we done about it? And one of the

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<v Speaker 1>reasons that I think some parents get upset about their

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<v Speaker 1>children being taught this information is that Johnny and Susie

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna come home and they're gonna say, Mommy and Daddy,

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<v Speaker 1>did this stuff happen? And what did you do about it?

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<v Speaker 1>And what did you do about it? And what is

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<v Speaker 1>our room doing about it? And what are we exactly

1:01:59.040 --> 1:02:02.760
<v Speaker 1>and why do you call Mexicans this? And and why

1:02:02.760 --> 1:02:06.840
<v Speaker 1>do you still say nigger behind closed doors? And why

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<v Speaker 1>do we have such and such in here working in

1:02:09.320 --> 1:02:12.400
<v Speaker 1>our home and being treated a certain way like they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the conversation could go so deep that they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to have it at all. The fear, that

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<v Speaker 1>is the fear. But the reason why we fight. We

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<v Speaker 1>we tussle with this question of um a power right

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<v Speaker 1>because people will say, oh, you know, black people can

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<v Speaker 1>be can be racist as well, and we argue all

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<v Speaker 1>the time that that is a very it's a shaky role,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, because we don't have well I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying we can have biases that is. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>just really believe, Like as a lawyer, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things I learned is, uh, you can't say there was

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<v Speaker 1>a crash, do I mean? Two cars. Do I mean

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<v Speaker 1>a car in a motorcycle? Do I mean a car

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<v Speaker 1>in a person? So you have to be explicit in

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<v Speaker 1>your use of language. Racism is not the equivalent of prejudice.

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<v Speaker 1>I can be the most prejudiced person in any might

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<v Speaker 1>walk into in America, but in America, I cannot be

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<v Speaker 1>a racist, as racism is prejudice plus social power plus

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<v Speaker 1>legal authority. That's racism. And that's why these these these

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<v Speaker 1>foy aise into well, I don't have anything in my

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<v Speaker 1>mind and my heart, so I'm not a racist. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have racist thoughts, so I don't have any you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everything is fine. I don't have to do anything other

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<v Speaker 1>than that. And that reduces racism to these individual prejudices,

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<v Speaker 1>and that makes it too easy. That's why people want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, oh, well, that couple of those people are

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<v Speaker 1>prejudiced and they're the problem. No, that's not the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>This view of mistaking individual president by prejudice and equivalent

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<v Speaker 1>making it the equivalent of racism is why some people

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<v Speaker 1>would say the way you solve the George Floyd issue

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<v Speaker 1>is by passing a law that says police can't kneel

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<v Speaker 1>along someone's neck. Now, we've solved the issue, and there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of people who think that that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of law would solve the issue, But of course it

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<v Speaker 1>won't because that's not what killed George Floyd. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the physical mechanism that choked the life out of him,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not what killed George Floyd. So once again,

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<v Speaker 1>this limited view allows you to come up with quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote solutions to a problem that will never solve the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>But you walk away like, you know, hey, I did

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<v Speaker 1>a great thing. I passed the no Chokehold Act, Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna change something. M That's so that's the real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We have conversations about that all the time. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>two things. First, I want you to tell us of

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<v Speaker 1>give us a synopsis about the film. Would I see

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<v Speaker 1>one part when you were talking to this guy and

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<v Speaker 1>I think he had a Confederate flag and he was

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<v Speaker 1>and he was talking about how they weren't it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>slavery because they treated him like family, did they treated

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<v Speaker 1>slaves like? And when I was listening to that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen your face and you just really was looking

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<v Speaker 1>like you are you really like serious? So I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to just give us a give us like, give us

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<v Speaker 1>a give us a description, and then we'll tell us

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<v Speaker 1>about it. And tell us what did you during this documentary?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you find that even shocks you, like when

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<v Speaker 1>you were searching for things, like where there are things

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<v Speaker 1>that you found that even shot you? Well? I think

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<v Speaker 1>that uh uh to understand that. Back in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and eleven, because of some family circumstances, I started reading

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<v Speaker 1>about the what came to be the history of anti

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<v Speaker 1>black racism in America. And I tell people, this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a brag. This is to make a point. I've had

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best educations in America. I graduated from

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<v Speaker 1>Marquette University and Harvard Law School, and in my fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>I started reading stuff that I had never heard before

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<v Speaker 1>about the history of anti black racism in America, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was shocked. And as I started finding more and

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<v Speaker 1>more and more information, that led to a three hour

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<v Speaker 1>presentation that led to people seeing it, and that led

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<v Speaker 1>to this film being made. But the film is more

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<v Speaker 1>than just the presentation of these facts that I found.

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<v Speaker 1>The film is involved with going out and interviewing people

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<v Speaker 1>who are witness to uh the history that is has

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<v Speaker 1>been taken from all of us. One of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that we wanted to do is to confront the issue

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<v Speaker 1>about the cause of the Civil War. And I did

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<v Speaker 1>a presentation, this three hour presentation in Charleston, South Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>and a woman came up to me at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of it and she said, you know, there's some guys

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<v Speaker 1>on the waterfront every Sunday in front of a Confederate

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<v Speaker 1>Soldier monument there waving Confederate flags, and you should come

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<v Speaker 1>down there for the demonstration that was Thursday night, Friday

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<v Speaker 1>and Saturday. We did everything from go to Mother Emmanuel

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<v Speaker 1>Church where Dylan Ruth slaughtered nine people. We went to

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<v Speaker 1>a plantation and saw how our ancestors lived and retreated.

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<v Speaker 1>We went to the Charleston Slave Mark Museum, where I

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<v Speaker 1>saw shackles that were made for three and four year

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<v Speaker 1>olds and whimps that had nail heads embedded in the

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<v Speaker 1>leather in order to tear the flesh. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>sick and I wasn't. We were leaving Charleston the next

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<v Speaker 1>day on Sunday, and Sarah and Emily Kunstler, the directors,

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<v Speaker 1>went down to the waterfront and they called me and said, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to come down here. Uh this guy is

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<v Speaker 1>willing to talk to us. He signed a release, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was an important thing. That I was sick,

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<v Speaker 1>and as I think back on it, I wasn't sick

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<v Speaker 1>with like the flu. I think I was just sick

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<v Speaker 1>from everything we had been seeing. But I got myself

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<v Speaker 1>down there and so my energy was lower, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that helped me stay calmer. And I'm glad that

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<v Speaker 1>I did, because I wanted to talk to this man

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<v Speaker 1>and to have him explained to me what his view was.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm a criminal defense lawyer and I've been trying

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<v Speaker 1>to cross examine witnesses, and so I just listened to him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to try and reflect back to him

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<v Speaker 1>how Ridict feels some of the things that he was saying.

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<v Speaker 1>We're and so when he first started talking about moral

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<v Speaker 1>terroiffs he's talking about I think the name is m

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<v Speaker 1>O R R I L. It's the name of a

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<v Speaker 1>law and some people hear it may think is he's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about more terrorists, and he's like, no, it's moral

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<v Speaker 1>terrorists on crops that enslaved people were essentially responsibly responsible

1:09:24.080 --> 1:09:28.479
<v Speaker 1>for producing. And when he started talking about that, I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah,

1:09:28.520 --> 1:09:30.920
<v Speaker 1>that was cotton, tobacco, and rice. And so one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things I'm doing is telling him I know this

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<v Speaker 1>history just like you know it. And that took him

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<v Speaker 1>back a little bit, and he didn't want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that anymore, because now we were talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that enslaved people grew all those crops, and so

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<v Speaker 1>taxes on those crops to the north. All of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't seem like such a strong Southern issue. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's when he pivoted to, well, we treated them like family.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just in him to admit that I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>own him and treat him like family and that it

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<v Speaker 1>would be okay. And you could just see the wheels

1:10:08.600 --> 1:10:12.439
<v Speaker 1>in his head turning. And I thought, if I yell

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<v Speaker 1>at him, which is what I wanted to do, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what he's expecting. You. Now, I'm just another black man

1:10:18.760 --> 1:10:21.280
<v Speaker 1>who's you know, having an argument with a guy with

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<v Speaker 1>a Confederate flag. And how many of those have we seen? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>But do you so you feel like this film is

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<v Speaker 1>one that white people can watch and feel safe learning

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<v Speaker 1>about themselves in the history, or do you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's still going to be such a trigger that they

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<v Speaker 1>may just shut just the wall comes down. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I wanted to do in the way

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<v Speaker 1>this film was presented is to try to address the

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<v Speaker 1>issue that you just released. Number one. I'm not looking

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<v Speaker 1>to make anybody feel comfortable. I'm looking to tell the truth,

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<v Speaker 1>and the truth is what the truth is. What I

1:11:11.680 --> 1:11:15.760
<v Speaker 1>have learned as a criminal defense lawyer is if I

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<v Speaker 1>come and tell you the Constitution was filled with advantages

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<v Speaker 1>for white supremacist slave owners, I can say that to

1:11:28.479 --> 1:11:32.080
<v Speaker 1>you and you may react one way or another. But

1:11:32.160 --> 1:11:35.960
<v Speaker 1>if I give you the facts, here's what this provision said,

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what this provision said, here's what this provision said,

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<v Speaker 1>then you have to deal with it yourself. And so,

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<v Speaker 1>just like that guy with the Confederate flag, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>of these craps were raised by enslaved people. He wanted

1:11:50.000 --> 1:11:54.880
<v Speaker 1>to fight about that. So I said okay, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had to agree because he knew that was truth. And

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<v Speaker 1>so if I say to someone, did you know that

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<v Speaker 1>the three fifths claws in the Constitution, That wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>about making sure that the Constitution reflected that black people

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<v Speaker 1>were not considered full human beings. That was about the

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<v Speaker 1>electoral College, Because what three hundred thousand blacks in Virginia.

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<v Speaker 1>You multiply that by three fists and that gets added

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<v Speaker 1>to the population. And then when you go down to

1:12:27.080 --> 1:12:30.759
<v Speaker 1>the next provision in the constitution, it says the number

1:12:30.880 --> 1:12:35.760
<v Speaker 1>of electoral College votes you get is dependent on your population.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why nine of the first twelve American presidents

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<v Speaker 1>were from the South, and seven of them were from Virginia.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you here, and then you see where slave

1:12:48.640 --> 1:12:53.519
<v Speaker 1>owners are given specific protections. So as opposed to telling

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<v Speaker 1>you what to think, what I'm trying to do in

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<v Speaker 1>this film is giving you the facts and saying you

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<v Speaker 1>come to the conclusion that you think these facts bring

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<v Speaker 1>you to, and the conclusion, quite frankly, is not escapable.

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<v Speaker 1>H is the film for children, Absolutely, It's a PG

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen rating. And what I would say is this is

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<v Speaker 1>not a film that I want to send my fifth,

1:13:19.080 --> 1:13:22.360
<v Speaker 1>six or seventh grader in to watch by themselves, but

1:13:22.439 --> 1:13:26.000
<v Speaker 1>to watch with their parents. Absolutely. And I have had

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with kids in middle school, with kids even younger

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<v Speaker 1>than that, about these issues. There are very very difficult

1:13:34.520 --> 1:13:37.000
<v Speaker 1>things that are shown in this film, and so the

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<v Speaker 1>PG thirteen rating I think is very helpful. But this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of education in age appropriate ways is completely important.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think one of the best things I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>about this is everybody knows the iconic picture of Ruby Bridges,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe as six or seven years old with her little briefcase,

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<v Speaker 1>walking into a school surrounded by federal marshals so that

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<v Speaker 1>she wouldn't get killed if she had to understand about

1:14:11.240 --> 1:14:14.840
<v Speaker 1>racism at that age. White kids that age can learn

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<v Speaker 1>about it. So this whole concept of oh, they're too young,

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<v Speaker 1>that is absolutely false. And one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>who we are project and this is a not for

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<v Speaker 1>profit organization that I've established, one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to do is to work with experts so

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<v Speaker 1>that parents and pre k teachers can start to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to kids at a very early age. And how can

1:14:40.600 --> 1:14:42.880
<v Speaker 1>you do that. You can do it all kinds of ways,

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<v Speaker 1>just by starting with the concept of what's fair. Give

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<v Speaker 1>four lollipops to five kids and the girl with red

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<v Speaker 1>hair doesn't get one, and ask them if that's fair,

1:14:55.400 --> 1:14:58.040
<v Speaker 1>and they'll start telling you at three years old, of

1:14:58.120 --> 1:15:01.360
<v Speaker 1>course that's not. This is the This is that you

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<v Speaker 1>can start teaching kids about concepts before you get into

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<v Speaker 1>the actual history of of anti black racism. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying you teach that history through a first grader, but

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<v Speaker 1>I am saying that we think our children at a

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<v Speaker 1>very young age or not being taught about racism, and

1:15:19.840 --> 1:15:24.360
<v Speaker 1>that's just a fantasy. Our society is teaching them. And

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<v Speaker 1>the way you figure that out is you go to

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<v Speaker 1>the most liberal monastory school in America and the kids

1:15:30.040 --> 1:15:34.120
<v Speaker 1>will self segregate in the lunch room in the first

1:15:34.479 --> 1:15:40.120
<v Speaker 1>grade down that for decades. Why is that they are

1:15:40.280 --> 1:15:43.840
<v Speaker 1>learning something and they're learning it from us? So the

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<v Speaker 1>issue is not will your child be taught about racism?

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<v Speaker 1>Because the answer to that is yes. The issue is

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<v Speaker 1>how is your child going to be taught? Wow, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to actually one thing before we go, because I

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<v Speaker 1>can said actually millions, very very insightful, and you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>to break it down. There's two things I want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you believe that we can eradicate racism in America?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great question. And and if so, if not,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think is the biggest threat to Black

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<v Speaker 1>America's future? What do you think is our thing that

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<v Speaker 1>we really need to focus on if we're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>evolve in progress and move past a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think. I think that I think the

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<v Speaker 1>answer to the first question, can we eradicate racism, not

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<v Speaker 1>just anti black racism, but racism in America? And the

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<v Speaker 1>answer in my mind to that question is I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know mhm. The answer is uncertain. But what I can

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<v Speaker 1>tell you is this, we have never in our entire

1:17:04.439 --> 1:17:12.519
<v Speaker 1>history addressed our racist underpinnings and origin story. We have

1:17:12.680 --> 1:17:16.400
<v Speaker 1>never addressed the issue, not just going back five or

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, but going back to sixteen nineteen. And people

1:17:20.520 --> 1:17:24.120
<v Speaker 1>say that was colonial America. Well, when they had the

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<v Speaker 1>Constitutional Convention, all those colonies brought their riches from slavery

1:17:28.640 --> 1:17:32.400
<v Speaker 1>and dumped them on the table, and people said, doubled down,

1:17:32.680 --> 1:17:36.679
<v Speaker 1>we are keeping this going. We have never addressed this

1:17:36.760 --> 1:17:41.280
<v Speaker 1>issue by looking at the entire history. So we are

1:17:41.400 --> 1:17:46.360
<v Speaker 1>doing something today, in this decade, in this century, that

1:17:46.439 --> 1:17:49.799
<v Speaker 1>we have not done before, and that gives me hope.

1:17:50.120 --> 1:17:52.480
<v Speaker 1>The other thing I'll tell you is this is January

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<v Speaker 1>six today, one year ago today. We all remember what

1:17:56.800 --> 1:18:01.040
<v Speaker 1>we were looking at. And I'll guarantee you those people

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<v Speaker 1>think that racism in America can be eradicated because they're scared.

1:18:07.880 --> 1:18:10.960
<v Speaker 1>They are scared of what will happen if the truth

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<v Speaker 1>is taught. It's just like that fear about critical race theory.

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<v Speaker 1>People are afraid, Oh, the origin story is gonna be shaken.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to acknowledge that while I've had struggles

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<v Speaker 1>and overcome burdens as a white person, I walked through

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<v Speaker 1>this world completely differently than the black and brown people

1:18:29.560 --> 1:18:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm walking right next to. And that has to change.

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<v Speaker 1>So the people that are screaming at school board meetings,

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<v Speaker 1>the people that were in the insurrection on January six,

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<v Speaker 1>they're scared, and they're scared because they see the possibility

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<v Speaker 1>of radical change occurring. And that's one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I think is really important. We are literally at

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<v Speaker 1>a tipping point, and a tipping point in a country

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<v Speaker 1>with a four hundred year history is not a moment,

1:19:00.479 --> 1:19:04.040
<v Speaker 1>for a year is a decade. We were in this

1:19:04.120 --> 1:19:07.080
<v Speaker 1>tipping point at least by two thousand and sixteen, and

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<v Speaker 1>we are in the middle of it now. So what

1:19:10.040 --> 1:19:14.000
<v Speaker 1>we do over the next five years is critical. And

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<v Speaker 1>to do your specific question, what areas should you focus on?

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<v Speaker 1>There are two things to me, and they are they

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<v Speaker 1>are interrelated. One is the economic health of the black

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<v Speaker 1>community and the other is voting, and the two things

1:19:29.080 --> 1:19:34.679
<v Speaker 1>are inextricably uh combined with each other. Why do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that there is so much effort to keep us

1:19:39.360 --> 1:19:45.639
<v Speaker 1>from voting? Because people understand that the black community can

1:19:45.680 --> 1:19:50.439
<v Speaker 1>have a huge impact not just on congressional races and

1:19:50.520 --> 1:19:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Senate races, but on local races as well as races

1:19:55.360 --> 1:20:00.599
<v Speaker 1>for the national offices. So I think voting is a huge,

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<v Speaker 1>huge issue. And when I say economic impact, the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that will give us the clearest view of that is

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<v Speaker 1>HR forty, the bill in front of Congress right now

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<v Speaker 1>to create a commission to study the issue of reparations

1:20:18.320 --> 1:20:23.160
<v Speaker 1>for slavery and the vestiges of slavery, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>where the history comes in. And then to make recommendations

1:20:26.439 --> 1:20:31.280
<v Speaker 1>to Congress and and so uh, those are two things

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<v Speaker 1>that I think are examples of areas where in the

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<v Speaker 1>next five years America is going to have to reckon

1:20:38.640 --> 1:20:44.240
<v Speaker 1>with a lot of difficult things. And uh, for me, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what I'm gonna be doing for the next

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<v Speaker 1>five years. M what is that? What are you gonna need?

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna need it, We're gonna need some inside. But

1:20:54.000 --> 1:20:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be doing for the next five years with

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<v Speaker 1>the Who We Are Project is making sure that everyone

1:21:00.040 --> 1:21:04.960
<v Speaker 1>in America has access to our true history. Think about

1:21:05.080 --> 1:21:09.719
<v Speaker 1>all those states that have passed these anti CRT laws.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they really think that a classroom is the only

1:21:14.439 --> 1:21:19.800
<v Speaker 1>place where students learned? Have you seen thirteen through seventeen

1:21:19.920 --> 1:21:23.840
<v Speaker 1>year olds walking around America without a cell phone in

1:21:23.880 --> 1:21:27.800
<v Speaker 1>their hands? And so we can we can get this

1:21:28.040 --> 1:21:32.640
<v Speaker 1>history out to people so that they can confirm it themselves.

1:21:32.960 --> 1:21:36.599
<v Speaker 1>They can go to state historical societies and find the

1:21:36.640 --> 1:21:41.960
<v Speaker 1>original documents where our founding fathers are saying horrific things.

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<v Speaker 1>And once you confirm it yourself. Knowledge. I hate to

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<v Speaker 1>say this in the time of COVID, but knowledge is

1:21:48.080 --> 1:21:52.200
<v Speaker 1>like a virus and once it starts spreading, it's really

1:21:52.280 --> 1:21:54.559
<v Speaker 1>hard to stop. It's the last thing I'll say on

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<v Speaker 1>this in terms of the impact that knowledge can have,

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<v Speaker 1>and why the Who We Are Project is going to

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<v Speaker 1>spend the next five years trying to make sure of

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<v Speaker 1>that youth, community groups and corporate organizations and government organizations

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<v Speaker 1>are all made aware of this history because being aware

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<v Speaker 1>of the history is what will take us to this

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<v Speaker 1>to this different place. So that's where we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be focusing our efforts and Who we Are Projects, Thank

1:22:26.320 --> 1:22:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you so much, so much. We really appreciate it and

1:22:30.439 --> 1:22:33.280
<v Speaker 1>you are a wealth of knowledge. I've definitely looked forward

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<v Speaker 1>just after watching the trail, I definitely look forward to

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<v Speaker 1>watching the movie. Everybody should go out and get it. Well,

1:22:39.160 --> 1:22:41.880
<v Speaker 1>just let him know where to be showing. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much, but first of all, thank you for having

1:22:44.280 --> 1:22:47.400
<v Speaker 1>me and I really appreciate the chance to have this dialogue.

1:22:47.880 --> 1:22:51.519
<v Speaker 1>And if you go to our website, the Who we

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<v Speaker 1>Are Project dot org, uh, there is a section for

1:22:55.320 --> 1:22:57.880
<v Speaker 1>the film and a section for the project, and one

1:22:57.920 --> 1:23:00.240
<v Speaker 1>of the links is you click on it and it

1:23:00.280 --> 1:23:03.080
<v Speaker 1>will show you a map of America, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>click on the state where you think you're gonna be,

1:23:05.640 --> 1:23:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and it will show you all of the dates where

1:23:08.640 --> 1:23:11.519
<v Speaker 1>things are gonna open. So it's in New York and

1:23:11.600 --> 1:23:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles next weekend, but then it's gonna be in Washington,

1:23:15.040 --> 1:23:19.720
<v Speaker 1>d C. In Chicago, in Memphis, in in Tulsa, you know,

1:23:19.840 --> 1:23:23.400
<v Speaker 1>all over the country. So uh, that's probably the best

1:23:23.400 --> 1:23:25.960
<v Speaker 1>way is to go to our website and click on

1:23:26.040 --> 1:23:28.519
<v Speaker 1>that map and it will give you the places where

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be screening in your area. Awesome. Thank you

1:23:32.160 --> 1:23:36.240
<v Speaker 1>so much. Again, we cannot wait to be well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the film, to make sure that people

1:23:39.680 --> 1:23:42.639
<v Speaker 1>have an opportunity to see it. I think it's so

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<v Speaker 1>important for it to be accessible, but it will take

1:23:45.640 --> 1:23:48.200
<v Speaker 1>all of us to push that info out there. So

1:23:48.240 --> 1:23:51.920
<v Speaker 1>we're committed to that. UM and you, we appreciate you

1:23:51.960 --> 1:23:54.920
<v Speaker 1>for coming on street politicians. Thank you. And let me

1:23:55.000 --> 1:23:57.599
<v Speaker 1>just say, if there is anything else that I can

1:23:57.640 --> 1:24:00.200
<v Speaker 1>do to support the work that y'all are doing, just

1:24:00.280 --> 1:24:03.400
<v Speaker 1>let me know because I appreciate what you're doing. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is part of why I do have optimism, because

1:24:07.960 --> 1:24:10.479
<v Speaker 1>this stuff is getting out there, and when it does

1:24:10.560 --> 1:24:18.439
<v Speaker 1>get out there, people go, oh M, I didn't know that,

1:24:18.600 --> 1:24:21.639
<v Speaker 1>And at that moment, that's when they're willing to try

1:24:21.760 --> 1:24:24.320
<v Speaker 1>and think about something different. And I think we can

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<v Speaker 1>bring about those moments. So thank you for the work

1:24:27.200 --> 1:24:33.000
<v Speaker 1>that y'all are doing. Congratulations Jeffrey Robinson, attorney, writer, producer

1:24:33.560 --> 1:24:39.080
<v Speaker 1>and the Who we Are Who we Are project, Thank you,

1:24:39.840 --> 1:24:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you, dope interview man, Really do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>I think the ironic part is how with LaToya was

1:24:51.160 --> 1:24:54.080
<v Speaker 1>saying about supporting black businesses and just the whole segment,

1:24:54.600 --> 1:24:57.160
<v Speaker 1>and then how Mr Robinson said that is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>one of the essential things for us to move forward

1:25:00.280 --> 1:25:04.160
<v Speaker 1>is black economics, you know, So it's it's all on points,

1:25:04.200 --> 1:25:07.480
<v Speaker 1>all connected. You know, we have to be very intentional

1:25:07.600 --> 1:25:13.599
<v Speaker 1>about being entrepreneurs, creating economics, creating generational wealth, you know.

1:25:13.800 --> 1:25:16.439
<v Speaker 1>And I think we're on the right path. He said that.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, Um, how in this the last five years,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what we've been doing about exploring and holding

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<v Speaker 1>accountable and talking about the you know, the history of

1:25:28.120 --> 1:25:31.519
<v Speaker 1>America and put it in plain sight so people can

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<v Speaker 1>see it. It's never been done. He said, We've done

1:25:33.880 --> 1:25:36.960
<v Speaker 1>everything else with that, so that that's gonna have a

1:25:36.960 --> 1:25:39.599
<v Speaker 1>different effect, you know. And he was honest, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know if we're ever gonna see the eradication of racism

1:25:43.439 --> 1:25:48.080
<v Speaker 1>in America. Right. But you know, but as you said too,

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<v Speaker 1>really really strong things that tied directly together some people,

1:25:52.720 --> 1:25:55.240
<v Speaker 1>and I think there is another element that we have

1:25:55.360 --> 1:25:59.000
<v Speaker 1>to bring introduce into the conversation as well. You got

1:25:59.080 --> 1:26:03.080
<v Speaker 1>one thing, which is toyt latoy Von saying we have

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<v Speaker 1>to support small businesses, support black owned businesses and other

1:26:08.120 --> 1:26:11.599
<v Speaker 1>people of color. You have as you said, um, Mr

1:26:11.720 --> 1:26:16.479
<v Speaker 1>Robinson talking about economic empowerment. And then there's the protest

1:26:16.600 --> 1:26:19.640
<v Speaker 1>component where we should not be spending our money with

1:26:19.760 --> 1:26:23.720
<v Speaker 1>certain businesses when they don't invest in our communities. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you put those three things together, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course education, we will be able to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to really teach our young people because it will be

1:26:32.680 --> 1:26:35.719
<v Speaker 1>the next generation that is going to be so they're

1:26:35.800 --> 1:26:39.720
<v Speaker 1>so in tune with buying sweatshirts from their friends, you know,

1:26:39.800 --> 1:26:42.240
<v Speaker 1>they're so in tune with going to get their facial

1:26:42.400 --> 1:26:45.519
<v Speaker 1>done from their home girl. Now we just have to

1:26:45.520 --> 1:26:48.080
<v Speaker 1>be able to bring it all together and let them

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<v Speaker 1>know you could go to the spa. Of course, you

1:26:51.080 --> 1:26:53.920
<v Speaker 1>could go to a white spa downtown, but you could

1:26:53.960 --> 1:26:57.040
<v Speaker 1>also go to your home girls spot and get the

1:26:57.120 --> 1:26:59.240
<v Speaker 1>same type of service. And that brings me back to

1:26:59.280 --> 1:27:04.719
<v Speaker 1>the point about why it needs to be quiety service. Well,

1:27:05.280 --> 1:27:07.519
<v Speaker 1>that kind of brings me, you know, just the whole

1:27:08.520 --> 1:27:12.200
<v Speaker 1>racism and black and all these things brings me to

1:27:13.040 --> 1:27:21.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't get it. You know, earlier this

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<v Speaker 1>I think probably was last week, there was a conversation

1:27:25.360 --> 1:27:27.519
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I've been I've been critical about a

1:27:27.560 --> 1:27:30.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of these bloggers and on site. You know, um

1:27:31.040 --> 1:27:34.839
<v Speaker 1>individuals that just came out of nowhere got famous somehow

1:27:34.960 --> 1:27:37.439
<v Speaker 1>just talking on the internet and somehow they had some

1:27:37.560 --> 1:27:40.759
<v Speaker 1>level of credibility. Now this this one side I've I've seen,

1:27:41.360 --> 1:27:44.240
<v Speaker 1>you know. I talked about how you know, they had

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<v Speaker 1>DJ academics on the and he was cursing some black

1:27:47.160 --> 1:27:50.879
<v Speaker 1>women out, calling her old types of names, corner bitches

1:27:50.920 --> 1:27:53.439
<v Speaker 1>and all types of things because they had a difference

1:27:53.520 --> 1:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>of opinion. And he just started really being disrespectful. But

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<v Speaker 1>there was a conversation where they were talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>website or some type of site where you can go

1:28:04.000 --> 1:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>on the date black women. It's called black and these

1:28:07.040 --> 1:28:12.040
<v Speaker 1>two black men, one black black and another you know,

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<v Speaker 1>um more more my complexion black individual talking about how

1:28:16.680 --> 1:28:19.160
<v Speaker 1>they don't date black women and stuff and not just

1:28:19.240 --> 1:28:21.160
<v Speaker 1>don't date black women. Say well, if you want to

1:28:21.160 --> 1:28:24.800
<v Speaker 1>go get bake, date Shaniko or boom Kisha, that's on you.

1:28:24.800 --> 1:28:26.479
<v Speaker 1>You know, we don't, we don't like the dark met

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<v Speaker 1>We don't we don't really engage in that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me, I just don't understand the mind state, right,

1:28:34.200 --> 1:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't. It's two things I don't understand. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand First, how do we give people with that low

1:28:42.520 --> 1:28:49.639
<v Speaker 1>vibration mind state any authority to continually impact, in effect

1:28:50.120 --> 1:28:53.200
<v Speaker 1>and dictate our culture? Right, I don't even understand how,

1:28:53.600 --> 1:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>because they've been they've been toxic, Like I watched, and

1:28:56.240 --> 1:28:58.679
<v Speaker 1>the thing about is this show is filled with always

1:28:58.720 --> 1:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>black women at the table. Black women is sitting around

1:29:01.600 --> 1:29:04.679
<v Speaker 1>and they're having these conversations and whatever whatever. This show

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<v Speaker 1>has been made pretty much made of mostly black women

1:29:07.720 --> 1:29:10.599
<v Speaker 1>that I've seen that the shows I've seen. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get the mind state that that even comes.

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<v Speaker 1>How you just get comfortable with saying something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even understand how you as if you and

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<v Speaker 1>if you see how black this man is. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>we have a clip of it, you know when when

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<v Speaker 1>you see how black and dark this one guy is,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, all, we don't, we don't do the dark

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<v Speaker 1>me like the self hate that has to come with that,

1:29:33.320 --> 1:29:36.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, the self, the self, how much you don't

1:29:36.680 --> 1:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>care for yourself to understand that your mother is a

1:29:39.040 --> 1:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>black woman, understand that your grandmother's understand the history of

1:29:43.240 --> 1:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>your whole existence is a black woman. And for you

1:29:46.400 --> 1:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>to say that so freely is as if it's not embarrassing,

1:29:50.760 --> 1:29:53.640
<v Speaker 1>as as if it's not something that you should you

1:29:53.800 --> 1:29:56.120
<v Speaker 1>just to even think that you should be ashamed though,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just don't get this mindset. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get where we are in this culture and

1:30:02.160 --> 1:30:06.719
<v Speaker 1>altogether is where we just have gotten comfortable with less.

1:30:07.120 --> 1:30:11.519
<v Speaker 1>We've gotten comfortable with disrespecting ourselves. We've got comfortable with

1:30:11.640 --> 1:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>allowing people who don't even value us to dictate what

1:30:15.439 --> 1:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>this culture looks like, you know. And it was real

1:30:17.920 --> 1:30:20.680
<v Speaker 1>confusing to me. I heard a lot of people, you know,

1:30:20.840 --> 1:30:22.760
<v Speaker 1>say things about it. I've seen a couple of people

1:30:22.880 --> 1:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Joe Button says something about it, Roy says son about it.

1:30:25.880 --> 1:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Was a couple of dudes you know that has said

1:30:28.000 --> 1:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>something about it. And it just really evolved me the

1:30:30.479 --> 1:30:33.080
<v Speaker 1>wrong way, you know, because this was the second situation

1:30:33.240 --> 1:30:37.120
<v Speaker 1>where I've seen the violation of a black woman on

1:30:37.320 --> 1:30:41.599
<v Speaker 1>this podcast. M hm. I mean, I don't have anything

1:30:41.680 --> 1:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>to add to that. I think that, you know, the

1:30:43.720 --> 1:30:47.160
<v Speaker 1>first point you gave was the most important. It's like, well,

1:30:47.240 --> 1:30:50.800
<v Speaker 1>we as black people, and of course led by black women,

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<v Speaker 1>Um well, I mean maybe led by black men, say

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<v Speaker 1>that we no longer support the show. That's it it's

1:30:57.520 --> 1:31:00.800
<v Speaker 1>really simple. I don't I'm not trying on to deliberate

1:31:00.920 --> 1:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>on why they say they said the things they said.

1:31:03.439 --> 1:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>And in fact, I didn't give it any of my

1:31:05.280 --> 1:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>attention because we already know what type of content is

1:31:09.840 --> 1:31:13.280
<v Speaker 1>coming from that platform. It's not just that platform. But

1:31:13.760 --> 1:31:16.080
<v Speaker 1>it was another show where they were on there talking

1:31:16.160 --> 1:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>with some young guy about, you know, robbing people like

1:31:19.840 --> 1:31:21.960
<v Speaker 1>this is a this is becoming a thing. And we

1:31:22.080 --> 1:31:25.439
<v Speaker 1>talked last week about the cultural awareness that the shift

1:31:25.640 --> 1:31:28.320
<v Speaker 1>that has to happen and how you and others are

1:31:28.360 --> 1:31:31.360
<v Speaker 1>really trying to lead that, you know, And so I

1:31:31.800 --> 1:31:35.679
<v Speaker 1>think there is we already know that being enslaved, being

1:31:35.720 --> 1:31:39.640
<v Speaker 1>an enslaved people has done a doozy like it's a

1:31:39.840 --> 1:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>number that has been done on us. That is, it's

1:31:42.760 --> 1:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>really scary. But beyond that, now it's going back to

1:31:48.240 --> 1:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>the previous conversation. People need to understand that just because

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<v Speaker 1>so for me, I didn't click it to watch it

1:31:57.080 --> 1:32:00.719
<v Speaker 1>because I don't even want to give ratings to whatever

1:32:01.439 --> 1:32:06.040
<v Speaker 1>services or you know, whatever sauce sources are providing the content.

1:32:06.360 --> 1:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't even want the views on the shade room

1:32:09.960 --> 1:32:13.360
<v Speaker 1>ball alert or whatever to go up because I'm another

1:32:13.520 --> 1:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>person who has listened to it over and over and

1:32:16.240 --> 1:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>over again. Because your cliques equal money, like your cliques

1:32:21.320 --> 1:32:24.439
<v Speaker 1>equal resources. And there are people out there that will

1:32:24.560 --> 1:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>invest in something like that because it's controversial, whereas they

1:32:29.760 --> 1:32:33.080
<v Speaker 1>won't necessarily support something that's on that, you know, the Shade,

1:32:33.160 --> 1:32:36.080
<v Speaker 1>room Ball Alert, all of these, the Jasmine brand, all

1:32:36.160 --> 1:32:39.360
<v Speaker 1>of these sites. They try to also post some things

1:32:39.800 --> 1:32:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that are different, not like that. I'm not gonna say

1:32:43.400 --> 1:32:46.400
<v Speaker 1>positive or not or whatever, because this is not about that,

1:32:46.560 --> 1:32:49.680
<v Speaker 1>but just different. And the clicks and the numbers for

1:32:49.800 --> 1:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>those things may not be as strong. And so we

1:32:54.040 --> 1:32:56.840
<v Speaker 1>have to understand that the more we listen, the more

1:32:57.000 --> 1:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>we engage, the more these people become hot to those

1:33:00.840 --> 1:33:03.519
<v Speaker 1>people who don't care nothing about our communities. All they

1:33:03.600 --> 1:33:06.680
<v Speaker 1>care about is throwing that little advertisement on there so

1:33:06.840 --> 1:33:11.360
<v Speaker 1>that they can get more eye right, so they can

1:33:11.400 --> 1:33:14.040
<v Speaker 1>get more eyeballs. So it's up to you, you know

1:33:14.200 --> 1:33:16.280
<v Speaker 1>what you want to see? What is it that you know?

1:33:16.400 --> 1:33:19.559
<v Speaker 1>We e street politicians. We're trying our best to give

1:33:19.800 --> 1:33:23.280
<v Speaker 1>content that is not just talking about you know, we

1:33:23.600 --> 1:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>talked about we talk about black love, we talked about relationships,

1:33:28.200 --> 1:33:31.120
<v Speaker 1>we talk about all of that, and those episodes do well,

1:33:31.320 --> 1:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>and that's great, and because there's things we care about,

1:33:33.960 --> 1:33:36.560
<v Speaker 1>it's information we want, it's the world we live in.

1:33:37.120 --> 1:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>But we also try to talk about things like you know,

1:33:40.280 --> 1:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>bringing someone like attorney Jeffrey Robinson on. And the question

1:33:44.360 --> 1:33:47.840
<v Speaker 1>is it begs of itself? Will people actually listen and

1:33:48.040 --> 1:33:52.200
<v Speaker 1>download that content because it's it's actually gonna help educate

1:33:52.320 --> 1:33:56.799
<v Speaker 1>you and move you in your life to a better place,

1:33:57.560 --> 1:33:59.519
<v Speaker 1>or are we just gonna focus on the trash that

1:33:59.720 --> 1:34:01.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, who's sleeping with, who would, who's doing what.

1:34:02.680 --> 1:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying I don't like that stuff. I'm not

1:34:05.360 --> 1:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>saying that I don't also and I'm not gonna say

1:34:07.880 --> 1:34:10.599
<v Speaker 1>light but I'm not saying that I don't also listen

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<v Speaker 1>to and watch you know we call it um what

1:34:14.280 --> 1:34:17.960
<v Speaker 1>do they call it? Guilty TV? Or you know, guilty

1:34:18.160 --> 1:34:22.480
<v Speaker 1>internet surfing? But I spend more of my time invested

1:34:22.520 --> 1:34:25.519
<v Speaker 1>in things and listening to people who educate me. So

1:34:26.200 --> 1:34:29.560
<v Speaker 1>here we go. I hear you, but I can't, you know,

1:34:29.680 --> 1:34:31.799
<v Speaker 1>for the life of me, I can't invest in anything

1:34:31.920 --> 1:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>that degrades me or destroys me or demoralizes me. And

1:34:35.160 --> 1:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that we should we should at any

1:34:38.120 --> 1:34:42.479
<v Speaker 1>point be okay with that. We can have this debate

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<v Speaker 1>another day the show is over. But I will say

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't agree with that. I think that it depends.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on how you look at it. Because all

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<v Speaker 1>of us we know every episode of Power, we know

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<v Speaker 1>every episode of BMF, and we know every episode out

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<v Speaker 1>of everything Harlem uh the Godfather of Harlem. We do

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<v Speaker 1>watch things and and are invested in things that a

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<v Speaker 1>young person could be watching and it could actually be

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<v Speaker 1>impacting them and making them do things that are not good.

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<v Speaker 1>That's but but that's that right there. To that, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lazy argument because right if you're in your home,

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<v Speaker 1>a young person is in your home watching Power and

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<v Speaker 1>you're not, and you're not educating them about Hey, this

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<v Speaker 1>is entertainment. And this is based on what do you

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<v Speaker 1>mean if you're seventeen years old whatever, with a parent

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<v Speaker 1>that may not be in the household or maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>know or maybe working all the time, you think that's

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen year old. The parent is monitoring them, watching if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you done it, if you're a parent, then

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<v Speaker 1>by seventeen, you parented your child enough for them to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to differentiate between entertainment and not entertainment, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at the biggest supporters of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote the gangster rapping and all that, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>really black people, White American. Okay, white America has grasped

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<v Speaker 1>mostly right and and they're not on his shooting and

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<v Speaker 1>roving each other. Well, I mean that we could go

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<v Speaker 1>down the whole rabbit hole. But here's the deal. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>all I'm saying is Little Kim Nicki, Minaj, Cardi, b Meg,

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<v Speaker 1>the Stallion. I listened to every single one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it, I talked to it. I'm into it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also understand that there are components of that

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<v Speaker 1>that if not to your point, guided properly within a

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<v Speaker 1>young person, a little girl or whatever, it could go

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong way. And they'll tell you that. They will

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<v Speaker 1>tell you like, yo, I'm not don't, don't bring your

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<v Speaker 1>your two year old to listen to me on my

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<v Speaker 1>live or whatever when I'm talking. So I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>that we all indulge in things for our were entertainment

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<v Speaker 1>that depending on which way it goes, it can be harmful.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be However, However, there are certain things that

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<v Speaker 1>I think I do agree with you. That's more real

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<v Speaker 1>life like, it's real life. It's not entertainment. It's real

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<v Speaker 1>life stuff. And so that's where it is a little different.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's another day. We should actually do a show

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<v Speaker 1>on that. Okay, that's a show entertainment versus real life.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. And with that said, another dope episode

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<v Speaker 1>right to Mega. Mallory is not gonna always be wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>but we will both always and I mean always, always,

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<v Speaker 1>always be authentic. He Lou, That's how we ow