WEBVTT - Draft Show: Players On The Rise; 'Tell Me More' Returns 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:07.920 He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys on 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:12.000 there war room for insider news and draft analysis from 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:15.480 deep within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:21.280 in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Lady and now your hosts 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:25.920 Dame Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us Well, welcome 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:28.840 to the Draft Show here from the SWBC Mortgage Studios 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:32.040 for another week. As the big Voice guy says, it's 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:35.000 Brian brought us here with my scouting buddies, Dame Brugler, 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:41.159 David Hellman, Kent Garrison, Executive Producing. As always, gentlemen, we're 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:45.800 getting very close to this draft inside forty four days 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.520 I think now forty three days. Over a month, yeah, 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:50.560 just over a month. Kind of getting some pro days 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:54.400 rolling on. Had a quarterback throw yesterday at Oklahoma. Maybe 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:56.840 talk about that a little bit. I want to get 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.760 into this first segment though, as we get rolling. I 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:01.520 want to get this thing going because we just run 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:02.920 out of time at the end of the day, and 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:05.720 you know that's why it goes. But I kind of 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:07.959 want to get into a tail of the tape situation 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.080 here because of the combine we had some guys that 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:14.240 worked out really well, you know, but when we went back, 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:18.560 did the tape make us feel any different about the player? 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:22.479 I know you got your top one hundred coming out today, ye, Dane, 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:24.920 So you know I want to kind of get an 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:27.440 idea of that. We got a little Twitter on the 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.199 twenty as we always do, and we got some tell 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:33.520 me more and David Hellman has come up with some names, 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.319 so that I was quite going, oh, I got I 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:39.399 got a really really good one for you, Dane, Like 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:42.640 are you I'm excited? Yeah? Who are you excited? All right? 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:44.679 So yeah, we're going to see if we can stump 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:48.400 the expert here of Dane Burglar. But Dane, you know, 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:51.920 we had some guys that ran and worked out very 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:56.120 very well, and as we went into the combine, we were, 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.720 you know, we were kind of thinking, okay, for example, 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.120 the Campbell kid, the wider sit were from Ohio State, 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:04.160 Parris Cambell, Paris Campbell, kind of looking at him and 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:08.080 thinking okay, maybe third, maybe two, three on the on 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.440 the on the we would think about him and watching 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:12.560 the ability of the player, and then all of a 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:15.520 sudden he goes flying on you, and you know, maybe 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.399 maybe you expected that you did. I mean, I don't 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:22.440 think it was necessarily the speed. It was more when 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:25.160 you watch the tape of the combine and you see 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:28.320 the drills, the positional drills. The biggest question for me 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:30.520 is down field, what can he bring you? Sure, because 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:34.320 he was an underneath player, we talked about it exactly 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:38.160 yet sweeve screens. What can he give you down the field? Um? 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:42.480 And when you and I know the combine, we talk 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.360 about positional drills. It's a lot different when you simulate, 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.760 if you simulate a game compared to catching a ball 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.519 in shorts and sure you know, no defense and all that. 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.000 But I was really encouraged by what I saw from 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.880 Paris Campbell, just from the workout aspect of it, just 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.639 the routes down field, the tracking skills, and again it's 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:02.519 a big jump going from what he was asked to 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:04.240 do with the combine compared to you know, doing it 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.800 on the football field, right, But I was really encouraged 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:09.600 by what I saw. And again the numbers are great, 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:12.560 but it was expected Paris Campbell six foot two five 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:16.000 four three one and the forty the jumps are ridiculous, 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:19.040 forty inches in the verse eleven three broad Okay, but 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:23.320 again the positional stuff, that's what really sold me as Okay, 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:27.560 this guy has some juice and I won't be surprised 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:29.239 at all when he goes. And I mentioned first round 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:31.600 when we were at the Combine. Sure, it won't be surprised. 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.520 He goes in the first round and on my board 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.320 I have him as the fourth wide receiver, number forty 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:40.320 three overall. So he did he? So where did he 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.920 start in your process? Before the Combine? Would he have 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:46.320 been a top fifty player on your board? No? No, no, 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:48.880 I mean he because again, so the tape is the 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.160 tape translate? You think that's what we what we were 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.160 seeing here? I want to I want to know, Well, 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:54.400 first of all, I want to know the three in 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:56.440 front of him. Yeah, that was when that I buried 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.040 the lead on that one, didn't they? I'm guess in Hollywood, 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.680 uh Metcalf. I don't think he has Metcalf up there 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:09.160 and over him. I've met Calf one Hollywood Metcalf, and 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.840 then the third A J. Brown. Very good. Yeah, I 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:17.719 pay attention with Paris Campbell. You can go back to 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:20.520 the Ohio State tape and you'll like what you see. Yeah, 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.640 but again you're not going to see downfield rounds. You're 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.359 not going to see any complex So the comedy the 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:27.560 combine showed you this kid has ability to track the 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.760 ball and go down the field and much at least 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:31.200 he showed me that he could do it. He could 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:32.960 do a struggle with it. I'm not a little and 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:35.280 I don't. I don't. I'm not trying to say I 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:37.919 disagree with you. I trust you implicitly. I'm a little 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.520 surprised as much as you focus on tape. Yeah, to 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.560 hear you say this, because that's my impression of Campbell 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:46.760 is you will turn on the tape, You're going to 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:50.360 see the athleticism. You're not going to see the polish 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.520 of you know of you know the route running and 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.000 the versatility, and you know you trust his hands, you 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.800 trust his mechanics and all that good stuff. Like you know, 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:01.040 I'll beat the name into the ground. I won't apologize 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.440 for it. Like, how do you compare him to Deebo Samuel? 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:07.160 Just in terms of the tape of Deebo Samuel playing 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:09.760 wide receiver is gonna be way better, Oh it is 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:13.039 than the tape of Paris Campbell. That's fair. Um, I 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:16.560 think so much of scout by the way right and 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:20.920 so much of scouting his projection um with what Paris 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:24.000 Campbell did at the combine, I feel much better projecting 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:26.400 him forward as a guy who will round out his 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.560 route tree, who will you know, put it all together 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.640 and be more than just underneath torget where Deebo Samuel 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:34.360 I think he's a He's a good player, don't get 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:37.280 me wrong. I mean he's number eight wide receiver for me, uh, 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:41.159 number two senior behind Paris Campbell. So I like Deebo Samuel, 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.840 but I think he's kind of tapped out in terms 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:45.480 of like what he gives you, like you know exactly 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:47.840 what you're getting, but it's just you know, it's not 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.200 a necessarily a home run, where Paris Campbell I think 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.120 could be a home run with what he brings you. 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:56.000 It's just your On his tape at the Ohio State tape, 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.400 he didn't show me that he can't run downfield routes. 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:00.680 He wasn't. You never, you never, you didn't. You don't 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.640 see him do it, that's for sure. That's for sure. 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:04.640 There's a big difference when you know, if you couldn't 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:06.600 do it on tape during the season, then he does 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.760 do it the combine. That gives you a little bit 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.200 of pause, but it's he wasn't asked to do it 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:13.440 at Ohio State, but then he did do it the combine. 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:15.280 That's why I'm a little more optimistic when it comes 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:22.279 to Paris Campbell. What about the Notre Dame kid receiver? See, 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:23.920 now that's the one I think that's got a lot 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.520 of people scratching their head in the in the scouting community. 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:28.520 When you've got a guy that's almost six four two 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:31.680 hundred twenty pounds and he goes down there at four 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:35.400 four one and not only the forty, but six seven 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.200 seven and a three cone. Yeah, that's a silly number. Okay, 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.880 pretty crazy. It's the tape. Is the tape showing that? 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.080 Or is or is the tape not gonna lie on 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.839 that one? Is that a little bit? You know, you 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:49.880 talk so glowingly about Campbell, and rightfully so you talk 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:53.359 Boyk in the same way as does Boykin put himself 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.159 in a position to where he is a maybe a 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:59.040 third round guy and not this maybe a fifth round 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.279 guy or you know, were five type guy. You thought 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:03.680 I was encouraged by what I saw. He just he 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.600 doesn't play with a confidence of that type of athlete. 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:08.480 You see a little bit of the twitch, You see 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.160 the movement skills when he has a lane, when he 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.480 can run, You see the speed as a route runner. 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.360 Don't necessarily see it all the time, sure, but um, 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.240 you know, I'm encouraged by what I saw most of 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.560 than what I thought going in. And the numbers help that. 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.120 But he reminds me a lot of Dante Moncrief coming 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.760 out of Old Miss that Old Miss again and wide receiver, 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:32.480 and you're just like, yeah, I know I'm throwing them 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.440 all together, but that's Moncrief has had a pretty good 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:37.880 career for relative to where he was drafted. Yeah, yeah, 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.680 we're not talking about Laquon Treadwell, right and he did. Okay, 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.480 it's just old Miss, you know, it's Old Miss and receivers. 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:46.240 I hope we're talking about I got you no with 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.320 with Boykin. I think you have a guy who he 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.240 looks the part one step acceleration. He doesn't. He doesn't. 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.559 It's not build up speed one step and he's going. 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.880 Um and he Where I where I really liked Myles 0:07:56.920 --> 0:08:00.520 Boykin before the combine was his athleticism at the point 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:02.520 the adjustment skills where you just kind of throw it 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:04.320 in his area and he's gonna come down with it. 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.440 So I think he brings value. He comes in for me, 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.920 I think number ten wide receiver. So he bumped up 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.360 a little bit after the combine. Uh, not enough where 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.640 I'm gonna put him. So number ten, where does that 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.080 put him in inn fest where he could be drafted? 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:22.200 For me? I think he's number seventy overall of my board. Okay, 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.760 so you know that's early third round. Okay, but if 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:27.360 he goes in the second, no one should be surprised. 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.520 I hate to go rogue on y'all, but I want 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.199 can I flip this for a second, because I feel 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.400 like at this time of year and for good reason, 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.959 but we do it. The Cowboys could be picking nineteen, 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.760 they could be picking fifty eight. We're always like, oh, 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:44.000 he's he's he's not gonna get there, No way that's 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.640 not going to happen. Which and since you know boy 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:49.400 Can went to Notre Dame, that reminded me of Equanimius. 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.120 Well that was that sounded like to me the worldly 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.520 guy thing. Well, just talking to teams again, like dat 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:57.800 first came up with that, the same thing Can maybe 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:01.320 be said about the tackle there. I don't care, I 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:04.080 don't care why. But who's the guy that we're talking 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.800 about glowingly right now? Who's gonna be there late on 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.360 day three when you're like, whoa, what's going on with 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:12.760 this guy? Oh, you're you're saying the guy that's get 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.000 you can go find you can go find a tape 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.920 of us shocking about Saint Brown last year and like, oh, 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:19.400 he won't be there for you want to know who 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:20.920 it is. It's gonna be the kid from It's gonna 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.199 be the kid from Colorado State, Preston Williams. Yeah, but 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:26.880 I think we like not only that, but like from 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:28.679 what I mean, he's he even gonna get drafted. Like 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.680 if he went undrafted, I would I mean, weren't good 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:34.640 to go along with? I'm saying, I'm saying, whoa because 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.360 of the ability? Yeah, that's what I mean. If you're 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:39.679 telling me this, who's a guy that you well, you 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:41.920 like Preston william Dane, who's a guy that you really like? 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:45.000 Who's gonna fall Come on, I'm you know, I'm looking 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.280 through my list here. You know, a guy like um, 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:50.840 Devin Singletary, Oh the running back. Yeah, you know, I 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:54.200 think that's a great call. You really like the tape 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.360 he makes guys miss but now you're stacking five guys 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:00.959 above him, is what you're doing. Yeah, combine hurt him. 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.560 It hurt him. And that's where I'm saying that you 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:08.480 know him and how about him? And like Isaac Nada. Yeah, 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:10.760 I didn't expect Isaac Noad to come rolling down there 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.440 at forty nine. I didn't expect that. You watch his 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.200 tapist see this is where to me. You know, you 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.480 talk about like, oh, who help who? And I'm like, 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.000 do you? But do you? You just get mad? I 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:23.160 get mad. You're gonna go out to Athens in time. 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:24.959 I'm out at thirty eight. Yeah, and I'm gonna I'm 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:26.800 gonna get head my way down to Boker with Tom 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:28.600 Florida and I'm gonna get the other kid at thirty 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:32.640 eight too. I just feel like those you should be happy. 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.280 That means these guys will fall to you, what if? 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:38.600 I I mean, I just feel like that Isaac Nada 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.160 is a better football player than a four nine guy. 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:45.840 His his workout did not and you know his workout 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:49.520 is And maybe you're gonna be right about polite. Maybe 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.760 you're gonna be right about him. You know, maybe maybe 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.120 there's a guy at fifty eight you better get ready 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:58.000 for that's another guy. It's possible. And then all of 0:10:58.040 --> 0:10:59.800 a sudden, when that when when we're on the book, 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:03.120 well the Cowboys, it's one away, Dane, who do you got? Well, 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:06.560 we got polite from Florida and I'm gonna go hunk. Yeah, 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:09.480 a Harold Landry type of deal. I mean not sure, 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:14.880 but yeah, sure, yeah, but with a singletary. It wasn't 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:16.680 just the numbers at the combine, Like he didn't catch 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:18.079 the ball well, and that was a big question. This 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:22.120 workout was horrible. If you can't catch the ball and 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:24.400 you're an undersized guy, that that's a problem or walking 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.280 on water. Old ron Wolf used to say, if you're 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.720 that little, so you know, teams are gonna be looking 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:32.280 at that competition, you know or the Conference USA, And 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.080 you know, is that really what helped make the tape 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.520 shine and that production? And you know they often you 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:41.200 say that about Henderson in from Memphis though he's the 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:44.320 American Conference right right, but similar, I mean similar, Yeah, 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:46.559 the thing with Darrell Henderson and Memphis think it worries 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.079 me with him you look at the backup running back, 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.600 the third string running back, they all average like six year. 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.760 You're a scheme helps there? Oh yeah, I mean there. 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.040 You watch that tape and there are some gaping holes 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:00.320 to run through. Uh now, I mean Henderson, there's the there. 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:01.959 There's a lot of credit as well. I'm not taking 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.240 trying to take credit away from him, but it does 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:05.760 give you a little bit of pause when you factor 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.880 in scheme, factor in competition factor, in just the situation 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.360 they were put in. It's just in college football. There 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.560 are one hundred and thirty teams in the FBS, you know, 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.840 just it's so different from conference to conference. Focusing on 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:20.079 the Cowboys here, Dave, Yeah, what's my what's my compensatory 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.760 four number? Please? Do you remember that? I believe it's 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:26.360 one thirty six. Can I take not at one thirty six? 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:30.520 Oh god, yeah, you're speaking my language. If that's I mean, 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.640 if that's possible, you know, if if he's gonna run 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.559 four to nine and everybody's gonna jump off the not 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.319 a train, go me, it is one thirty six. Hey 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:40.960 you go da? I knew he had done the chauffeur 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:44.240 reas memory. Dave, Yeah, it's it's amazing the fact that 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.640 you've been to Maudi Gras and the combine back to back, 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.760 hey and survived. I don't I don't really get it either. 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:54.079 But okay, what thirty six, I'd be saying, I have 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.800 a third round. Yeah, I'd be surprised if you failed that, 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.040 because we're talking end of the fourth round. Sure, I'd 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.360 be surprised if failed that are but you never know 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:03.640 with these tight ends. See I got him in Sternberger 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.040 right there next to each other. If you watched the tape, 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:09.400 this guy's a fat of fat, a flat back blocker 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.080 to me when you watch him play. Yeah, that's you know, 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.760 we're getting back into on the clock series, isn't there. 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:18.840 I'm paraphrasing here, but don't quote me. Dive, no, no no, no, 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:22.480 I'm I read this off my Twitter timeline back because 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:25.079 not as workout was terrible and it was like, there's 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.679 like no successful tight ends that ran as slow as 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:29.640 he did. Yeah, Like it's I mean, if there are 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.839 such the smallest see, that's that's another one of those 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:34.880 that freak you out there. Oh it freaks me out 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.319 because again you're right about the guys, You're right about 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:41.320 a little running back down there Florida Atlantic. Now you 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.280 know you're right about him, but you're but you're also 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:46.640 not a you're going he's not a four nine player. 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.600 He's not a four nine. He's not a Yeah, I'm 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.280 surprised Burglar didn't come up with that one. Oh he's 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:55.839 made that joke before. Yeah, that's more combine guys that 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:59.680 I think we need to talk about. Your sinner Bradbury. Yeah, 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.160 he's a first round Oh yeah, get ready for that. 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:09.400 You're going to teams easily bam, ragmouse style. Yeah, because 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.120 he's a guy that if you especially for you a 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:14.600 zone team workout was good. You need a center. Okay, 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:18.760 draft and plug him in. You're fine. Um. Another guy 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.200 who helped himself. I thought a lot. Justin Lane from 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:26.480 Michigan State Corner like that guy. He to me, I 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:31.600 think he's my fourth corner. Now behind Greedy. Where do 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:35.080 you got Murphy? It's gonna kill Murphy because he's short. No, No, 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.280 I guess he will. Murphy's actually my top corner. I'm 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:40.880 with you, Oh, Murphy, Greedy, I'm with you. So who 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.680 you put? You put Murphy over Greedy with? Well, they 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:47.120 were they were stacked for me. The entire way. So 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.640 I'm giving buyer in the edge. It only took five 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.040 years day for him to actually like a player that 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:55.160 I like. Oh that's they all agreed way more often 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.000 than you don't, Murphy Greedy, you're going down the wrong 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.400 road there. Yeah, I'm having second Yeah, rock your sin. 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.640 And then justin lane, I think Rocus sin is gonna 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:06.440 go higher than a lot of people. I think he's 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:09.360 going I think he's gonna go before maybe who do 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.320 you have your number? Three? Your sin? Oh? Your sin 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.560 was three? Yeah, it two was Greedy Green. This is 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:17.200 kind of my point that and I'm not he I 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.640 think you got that list right. I like how you 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.000 say that with like awe in your voice. No no, no, 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.280 no no no, I'm like, yeah, I like it. I 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.640 like your list. And then at justin lane four, then 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:28.520 I have DeAndre bakon R. Tell me about tell me 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:31.040 about Lane again. Just tell me about what you like 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.640 about him. Well, he's a former wide receiver who he's 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:36.760 a long guy. Yeah, he converted to corner when he 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:40.080 got to Michigan State, and he plays the position like 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.480 he understands exactly what the route runners trying to do. 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.960 Puts himself in the position and make plays. Love the length, 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:50.320 he's very good athlete or four five too exactly. You 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:52.920 love the ball skill. So I think he's an ascending player, 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:54.920 a guy that I'm going to sign up for if 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:56.680 I need a corner in the late first round. Rock 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.640 your sin justin Lane. Both those guys are on my radar. 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.760 You think Lane as high as the first round? Yeah damn. 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:06.200 He's number twenty eight overall on my board. Yeah that's nice. 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.640 So where would he have started on your board? You 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.000 think where would he have initially? Would have been my 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.000 pre combined? I think he was like my sixth or 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.000 seventh corner, And then you just watch the workout and 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:19.480 you're thinking, man, this guy's get movement, skills, can run exactly, 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.240 he's better. I'm gonna if I have it, If I 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.680 need to bet on him, I'll bet on the upside 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.640 that he provides over what we've seen from DeAndre Baker 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.360 from Georgia, which two really good players, I think, but 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.240 I'll go with the upside. I'll see who's got who 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.280 got hurt a little bit as my guy Jouan Williams 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.160 from Vanderbilt. You just you can't run a four to 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:43.160 six four. Yeah, but watch the guy play on tape. 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.440 Everybody killed that Iowa kid that's at the chargers. Now 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:48.880 run a four to six four. You're not he was slow. 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.880 He was slow, But we just what a Desmond King run. 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:54.440 I'm looking at it. It is tough to run a 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:58.320 four to six four if you're just watch the damn tape. Brugler. Yeah, 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:00.840 and he gets beat. Isn't there? If there, he gets 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:02.840 his hands on people, he can win on the line 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.760 if he if he does, yes, that's a fair that's fair. Yeah, 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.480 but he just doesn't. He doesn't do it. Remember this conversation. Hellman, 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:10.480 when I'm walking around the track, I don't know, Man, 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:16.959 isn't there if there's four? There's one position where forty matters, 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:20.440 isn't it corner? It's a stopwatch position? Yeah, no question. Uh, well, 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:22.520 I don't think Desmond King ran the forty at the 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.360 combine and run him. I'm looking. I'm like, I don't 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.440 want to see him. Four five five the WiFi is 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:29.840 a big difference to four five five and four six four. 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:32.160 I'm just telling you that nobody thought the guy could run. 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.600 You guys are all like lining up against him. Oh, 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.439 that's not true. He's also he's also a safety. He 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.200 plays safety, he doesn't true, he doesn't play corner. That's true, 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.159 just saying I think he can cover with Joe and 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:46.359 William not if there are three steps behind him, he can't. 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.640 Teams that really covert the length of the position they're 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:54.880 they're gonna like him. Um but okay, four six four 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:59.400 does There was this talk before the combine. Speed. Oh, 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.000 speed was a biggest question for him. I remember us 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:05.399 kind of like glowing about this guy. Maybe I'll no, 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.120 you are right, we were real high on this guy. 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:10.280 Pretty combine. But I mean, put on the Georgia tape. 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:12.399 I think that shows exactly and I wrote about this 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.200 before the combine. The Georgia tape shows me exactly why 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:19.200 I am really intrigued by Joe one Williams. But also 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:22.000 because you saw Ridley kind of beat him up a 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:25.240 little bit several He got beat several times by receivers 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.560 that just vertical off. You know, if he doesn't get 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:31.080 if he doesn't press, doesn't get that contacted line of scrimmage, 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:32.840 he's gonna get beat vertically, and he doesn't have to 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:34.600 catch up speed. He's not gonna be able to impact 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.720 at the school Nashville, Desmond King. Desmond King ran a 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:42.200 four five one, so significantly better than four six four. 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.360 Now that there was questions about Desmond King's speed, You're right, 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:47.280 there were right. There's a big reason why I fell 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:50.000 to the fifth, no question. Yeah, and Joe one Williams, 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:51.720 I mean, he's in my top one hundred. It's not 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:55.679 like I, okay and fifty nine took a beating on 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:57.200 that BOSA and I had him in the top ten. 0:18:57.359 --> 0:18:59.280 Everybody acts like I didn't even have him on the board. 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:02.000 A little bit different when you're talking about top ten picks. 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:03.959 Two other guys I want to mention a money hooker 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:07.159 from Iowa ran much better than I expected. Yeah, he 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:09.840 didn't play fast. He does, he doesn't play that fast. Yeah, 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:13.960 but his intelligence, his IQ, she instincts all off the 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:17.000 charts and so so the film. But the film shows 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.479 you he doesn't play fast. But it's kind of like, 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:22.600 you know, it's uh, there's a little bit of Desmond 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:26.040