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Speaker 1: This is a special episode of Crime Stories with Nancy

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Speaker 1: Grace finding Chase Master. Episode one. She wants her son home.

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Speaker 1: Chase Master is in a rock War veteran, a husband,

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Speaker 1: a father, and he's missing his mother. Stephanie has worried

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Speaker 1: about him every day for three years. His wife told

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Speaker 1: us she dropped him off at a quick trip in

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Speaker 1: Coff County, where he works. His family says he was

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Speaker 1: last seen at a friend's house in Kennesaw three years

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Speaker 1: ago on March. We don't know what happened. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's like he vanished from that home, not to be

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Speaker 1: seen or heard from again. This is a hind He

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Speaker 1: would never do this. He wouldn't just go and leave

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Speaker 1: his family and his love goince here. Despite some intense searching,

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Speaker 1: a few clues have been found. We have a missing veteran,

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Speaker 1: we have a friend, a son, a father, and our

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Speaker 1: main goal has always been to bring him home, and

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Speaker 1: that emotion will never end until he's brought back home.

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Speaker 1: Three years after her study, Chase Math, No, we're missing Stephanie.

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Speaker 1: Convenient continue searching for him. I've lived the last three

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Speaker 1: years not knowing, and every single day it's just help.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine going to sleep every single night wondering

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Speaker 1: where is your son? Is he dead? Is he alive?

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Speaker 1: Is he somewhere calling your name, needing you, needing help?

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Speaker 1: Is he in pain? Is he dead? Is he alive?

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Speaker 1: The child you've spent your life raising, poured all of

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Speaker 1: your hopes, all of your dreams into and somehow, just

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Speaker 1: like that, it's just gone as that all the years

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Speaker 1: and all the love never happened. I'm Nancy Grace. This

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Speaker 1: is Crime Stories, and that is what has happened to

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Speaker 1: a young handsome Iraqi war vett U S Soldier, Chase Master.

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Speaker 1: We are devoted to finding Chase. The mystery surrounding the

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Speaker 1: disappearance of this young man, a husband and a father,

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Speaker 1: a son, really hit home with me when I met

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Speaker 1: his mother, Stephanie Gadina. He has been missing and no

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Speaker 1: one seems to care, but I care, and we care.

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Speaker 1: to introduce Team Chase Finding Chase Master with me, of course,

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Speaker 1: Alan Duke, investigative reporter. Also with me Crack reporter on

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Speaker 1: crime online dot Com, Lee Egan, and special guests joining

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Speaker 1: us a guy who's been on the story for some

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Speaker 1: time now, Daniel Wilkerson, reporter and on air talent at

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Speaker 1: CBS Channel forty six, who has been investigating the disappearance

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Speaker 1: of Chase Masner. Where is Chase? First of all, I

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Speaker 1: want to go to Alan Duke allan at all starts

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Speaker 1: with Chase Master. That's where it starts. Although I really

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Speaker 1: think the wild card Brad Clement is just as powerful.

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Speaker 1: But to solve the mystery, let's start at the beginning.

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Speaker 1: What do we know about Chase Master. Chase Masner served

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Speaker 1: in Iraq during his time in the U. S. Army.

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Speaker 1: He was frustrated and his searched for a good paying

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Speaker 1: chefs at a Quick Trip convenience store in kenne Saw, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: That's a northwest suburb of Atlanta, close to where his mother,

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Speaker 1: Stephanie Kadina lived. Chase is Stephanie's only son, and by

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Speaker 1: all accounts, he was close to his mother. Although his wife,

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Speaker 1: Amanda told reporters that Chase was diagnosed to suffering from

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Speaker 1: post traumatic stress syndrome after returning from the Persian Gulf,

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Speaker 1: we've seen no evidence he was ever in combat. He

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Speaker 1: and Amanda have two young daughters. He was twenty six

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Speaker 1: when he vanished three years ago, and Daniel again the

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Speaker 1: wild card. Brad Clement, what do you know? Brad Clement

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Speaker 1: admits he was the last person to see Chase Massner.

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Speaker 1: He says because of that, social media has torn his

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Speaker 1: Chase's disappearance. Brand recently spoke publicly for the first time

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Speaker 1: he's changing his story. He says that is not true,

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Speaker 1: and that at the time Chase disappeared, he didn't know

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Speaker 1: Brad says he's been accused of being a heroine dealer,

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Speaker 1: more specifically Chase his dealer. He says it's even been

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Speaker 1: suggested that he shot up Chase and that Brad somehow

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Speaker 1: on hard times. He admits part of his account of

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Speaker 1: what happened March twenty six and seven could seem suspicious

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Speaker 1: that he was only trying to help a friend, a

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Speaker 1: gesture he says has cost him dearly Lee. Where does

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Speaker 1: Stephanie Cadina fit into all of this, because that's really

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Speaker 1: how I got sucked into finding Chase Master. Since day one,

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Speaker 1: she's ever given up hope that she'll find him, and

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Speaker 1: and what happened to him, no matter what it takes.

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Speaker 1: Stephanie Chase sev always been close. When he was away

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Speaker 1: they would write to each other almost daily. When he

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Speaker 1: was shattered on March two thousand fourteen when she received

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Speaker 1: Daniel Wilkerson, CBS Channel forty six. I just want to

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Speaker 1: hear you're a scenario about what happened the day Chase

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Speaker 1: goes missing. Brad says that around eight or nine o'clock

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Speaker 1: Chase wanted to know whether or not Brad could come

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Speaker 1: some point Chase fell asleep. Brad had roofers coming at

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Speaker 1: He takes Chase Masner's cell phone with him to kind

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Speaker 1: of ensure he'll stay there. All right. I never understood that,

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Speaker 1: Now we do have a recording, and you know from

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Speaker 1: Um the wesson? I said, you lust like I think

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Speaker 1: like that and this message. Okay, so the roofers now

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Speaker 1: say they never saw him leave. Nancy. Let's listen to

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Speaker 1: a clip of that conversation you had with the owner

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Speaker 1: of the roofing company who was in around and on

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Speaker 1: top of Brad's house all day the day Chase disappeared.

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Speaker 1: The roofs which maybe you or somebody else on your

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Speaker 1: team saw Chase leave. Is that true? Did anybody ever

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Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean anything to me. I mean, for all,

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Speaker 1: I asked Brad about that, and he said, well, they

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Speaker 1: She always showed up. He told me that she had

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Speaker 1: Daniel as far as I know, they haven't seen it

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Speaker 1: I believe that there is foul play. I don't think

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Speaker 1: foul play that day. What do you think, Alan? I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't he And if so, it would have left a track,

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Speaker 1: It would have left a technology trail that the police

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Speaker 1: Go out on a limb. What do you think happened.

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Speaker 1: with police. Initially this was investigated by Cherokee County Sheriff's

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Speaker 1: Is that not right, Daniel? Is that you're agree with

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Speaker 1: you guys losing that initial day, that initial eight hours,

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Speaker 1: the police, after Stephanie Condina, begged and begged and begged

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Speaker 1: His wife has long moved away. The case is now

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Speaker 1: being sent to cold case, and we've got one mother

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Speaker 1: grieving and reaching out to us for help. I've lived

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Speaker 1: the last three years not knowing, and every single day

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Speaker 1: it's just hell. M you know what. I don't know

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Speaker 1: try because I can't stand see any cry like this,

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Speaker 1: and if it were God forbid my own child, I

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Speaker 1: get in love with myself either. As the next week's unfold,

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Speaker 1: we will be speaking with the wild card Brad, the

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Speaker 1: to us. We go to every scene we know of.

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Speaker 1: Please join us in finding Chase again. I want to

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