Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, it in yup, yup, yup yup. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the Bootleg cav podcast. Man, we got a shout
Speaker 1: out to my guy, LA's finest, the homie Kaitlin for real,
Speaker 1: for real, Kaitlin too, for real. He is on the
Speaker 1: podcast today. Signed a rock Nation, got a crazy record
Speaker 1: out right now called Scoring that's going crazy. He's been
Speaker 1: just building up his entire just just following buzz In
Speaker 1: La for the last three years or so. And uh man,
Speaker 1: we had a dope conversation home. He used to play
Speaker 1: college football at SDSU, so we got to chop it
Speaker 1: up with him before we get into that though. Shout
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Speaker 1: boutlet Cavs show here special guests, Man, my guy, Kaitlin,
Speaker 1: what's going on now? Kaitlyn? I always say Kaitlin too
Speaker 1: for real, kailin for real for real? How what is
Speaker 1: the proper uh? What is the proper pronunciation? For people
Speaker 1: who don't know? It's Kaitlyn for real for real? Okay,
Speaker 1: but you can say too for real too, because too
Speaker 1: for real is just for real for real two for
Speaker 1: it's the two for two of them. Yeah, yeah, shout Outsai,
Speaker 1: my guy, We're gonna just gonna We're just gonna call
Speaker 1: you two for two for Kiln too for. I got
Speaker 1: the a lot. I like that anyway, Yo, you got
Speaker 1: your new project coming out, Well, this is a deluxe
Speaker 1: of your project that came out earlier this year, Too
Speaker 1: for Real two deluxe. How how are you approaching the
Speaker 1: deluxe thing? Because sometimes we get like four new songs
Speaker 1: and then you got people like Ozzi put a whole
Speaker 1: fucking new album out. What do you do? I got
Speaker 1: like six of them, so it's six new songs, new songs, yeah,
Speaker 1: any new features, Like was on a Dirk on there
Speaker 1: shout out to the City Blue Books on there you
Speaker 1: feel Me? Mada madea singing on there. You made it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Rock Nature does his whole team. Yeah, that's it. That's
Speaker 1: all right. Well listen you You know what I appreciated
Speaker 1: about how you kind of like started to heat up.
Speaker 1: Was you like you like went to Atlanta, you went
Speaker 1: to the South and he was tapping it with like
Speaker 1: guys like DJ Win and like you was like you
Speaker 1: kind of like like heat it up, like made sure
Speaker 1: like your relationships and like you were popping in like
Speaker 1: other regions as well as La, where I feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of times in La, like this is like
Speaker 1: such a small world sometimes and it's it's easy to
Speaker 1: get wrapped up and being hot here. But very few
Speaker 1: already from out here in the last decade or so
Speaker 1: have like really transcended nationwide. You know what I'm saying, right,
Speaker 1: I would say, like you feel me? It was never
Speaker 1: like planned, right, like that that wasn't never really a plan.
Speaker 1: It's just where I was ending up. And like looking
Speaker 1: back at it now, I could go back and be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well I did this, and then this helped this and that,
Speaker 1: Like but like at the time, it just was like, hey,
Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm gonna just go to Atlanta. Like do
Speaker 1: you think that that helped you? Though? Like in the
Speaker 1: long run, I felt like Atlanta gave me the confidence
Speaker 1: that I needed to be an artist overall, you know,
Speaker 1: because it's like in Atlanta, everybody is everything. This is facts,
Speaker 1: like everybody does everything. And then like to me, just
Speaker 1: from what I see is like everybody a celebrity. It
Speaker 1: don't matter what you do. You could be a janitor,
Speaker 1: you could be a rapper, you could own a club,
Speaker 1: you could you feel me have a car wash, It
Speaker 1: don't matter what she is. But like everybody promote theyself
Speaker 1: as like they're the best shit. This is the best shit.
Speaker 1: You got to come right here to get this, Like
Speaker 1: all right, you feel me? So like just with with
Speaker 1: being out there being like seeing everybody else, just like
Speaker 1: being so confident in it matter if a nigga had
Speaker 1: five followers or ten followers, like he knew he was hard.
Speaker 1: You know. I had like a lot of trouble in
Speaker 1: the beginning, like understanding like if I was like good
Speaker 1: at making music, because it's like I liked it. You
Speaker 1: feel me the people around me, like my homies, and shit,
Speaker 1: it was telling me it was cool. But then my
Speaker 1: homies you know what they're supposed to be like, and
Speaker 1: you feel me, they're telling me shit was weak too.
Speaker 1: But it was just like, are you telling me this
Speaker 1: is good for me? Are you telling me this is
Speaker 1: good enough for the world? You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it was more like just being in Atlanta. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I just kind of grew as a person fully,
Speaker 1: you know, not really like saying like the like the
Speaker 1: big music scene, because like when I first got to Atlanta,
Speaker 1: I was doing the same shit I was doing in
Speaker 1: La Like I was recording in the house, like all
Speaker 1: the two for real, the whole first two phar Real
Speaker 1: was recorded in the house, like Edu kitchen. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: what's crazy too, because like you said, like I think,
Speaker 1: like a lot of people, you left home, went to
Speaker 1: college in San Diego, played football there, and then went
Speaker 1: to Atlanta to just get the music ship going. Like
Speaker 1: you know, people don't realize like leaving your hometown and
Speaker 1: taking that like risk, that scary unknown, like just leaving
Speaker 1: it helps so much because dude, you can't be scared
Speaker 1: to grow like and expand it because like you gotta
Speaker 1: meet people everywhere, like nine times out of ten, like
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna shut up here in front of act
Speaker 1: like the city is fucking because a lot of people wasn't,
Speaker 1: you know. So it was just like, all right, shit,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just go out here, you know, see if
Speaker 1: they fuck with me. Yeah, I just think that like
Speaker 1: people get so I feel like when you're at home
Speaker 1: and you get comfortable, you almost got to leave home
Speaker 1: to realize, like, yeah, it's like sink or swim. You
Speaker 1: ain't got your family around, You got nobody around. That's
Speaker 1: what it was like. Nigga Beckle was all the way
Speaker 1: up against the wall. It was like you feel me,
Speaker 1: either you're gonna make this shit happen or you not,
Speaker 1: you know, and just like I ain't. I'm really blessed.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is like I couldn't tell you,
Speaker 1: like if it's like man should just start working and
Speaker 1: like people be like I got a lot of the
Speaker 1: hard work ethic and stuff like that, and then I
Speaker 1: look back and see it and I like, I enjoy
Speaker 1: working hard and stuff like that. But you get lost
Speaker 1: when you're doing something that you want to do like
Speaker 1: you feel me, like I love doing this shit, so
Speaker 1: it don't feel like I'm working hard, right, It doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like that to me, like you feel me. So
Speaker 1: when people be like, oh, like he's so humble and he,
Speaker 1: like you feel me, he works so hard, he put
Speaker 1: in so much work, like like this is what you're
Speaker 1: supposed to do. Yeah, if you love what you're doing,
Speaker 1: they say you never working there in your life, I
Speaker 1: ain't working. This shit is just you feel me. It's work,
Speaker 1: but I ain't working, right, You know it's work because
Speaker 1: other people are involved now, So now I got to
Speaker 1: like you feel me, It becomes work when it's like
Speaker 1: other people's livelihood or all right, nigga, like you feel
Speaker 1: me like this is how they make their money, This
Speaker 1: is how they feed their family and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So you got to do your part so that you
Speaker 1: make sure everybody feel me because they taking a chance
Speaker 1: on you. You You feel me, So when it will come
Speaker 1: to that, that's when I started understanding, like it's work,
Speaker 1: but making music is not work for me, you know,
Speaker 1: like that shit just fun. Like I like to make music,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm always going through ship like you
Speaker 1: always are inspired to Yeah, he's like you said, if
Speaker 1: you're always going through shit or you're living your life,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have new content to write every day. People
Speaker 1: don't be living or people be faking what they be living.
Speaker 1: That's real, bro, People don't be living like that. They
Speaker 1: be on their phone at home or they be But
Speaker 1: nigga going the song and talk about he killed six
Speaker 1: niggas today, Like you mean, no, you didn't. You've been
Speaker 1: playing two K all day. You feel me, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: talk about two K. Niggas always want to use Lebroniga's
Speaker 1: not good. Hey, man, shout to my son. That's my son, man,
Speaker 1: My son will always be picking the Lakers. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: come on, man, got to pick somebody else. Pick three randoms, man,
Speaker 1: three randoms, always tell them. I'm like, yo, just hit
Speaker 1: the R two. Let the randoms pick and we'll see
Speaker 1: who wins. Or let's pick the two worst teams in
Speaker 1: the league and then and let's see who playt see who. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's see who's good with the Pistons. You know he
Speaker 1: always used the Lakers and the bucks Man. Yeah, Joannis
Speaker 1: is the cheat code in the game too, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what uh so? What when you went into US. So
Speaker 1: if people don't know you graduated high school, you went
Speaker 1: to San Diego State University to play football. How talk
Speaker 1: about your football past? How long did you play? Like
Speaker 1: you know life, I played football, like from when I
Speaker 1: was like my first time playing football was like ten
Speaker 1: years old when I played up until I was twenty one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it was like twenty two. That was. What would
Speaker 1: you say football was your first love before music? Nah?
Speaker 1: Because I always loved music, like I always been, like
Speaker 1: I got Michael Jackson teded on me like I always
Speaker 1: been like a big oh yeah that is Michael Jackson
Speaker 1: his fee of moonwalking. So like I always been like
Speaker 1: into Michael Jackson and like in just music period, you
Speaker 1: too early. I can't do that. Don't do that over here, man,
Speaker 1: Come on, I'm saying he might have been. Nah, No,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just continue to continue. You're always into music? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I always like music though, but it it's always been
Speaker 1: like having two girlfriends. Yeah yeah, so it's just like
Speaker 1: somebody always like lacked, somebody always felt like I wasn't
Speaker 1: giving it enough or something like that, and then I
Speaker 1: got it. Like that was like one of my biggest things,
Speaker 1: like my coaches just be saying shit like, bro, like
Speaker 1: you too focused on rap, Like you need to worry
Speaker 1: about what you need to be doing, and shit like that.
Speaker 1: Even if I wasn't fucking up, it always was a thing,
Speaker 1: you know, like it always was a thing. And I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna act like I was the best player, like
Speaker 1: I'll be fucking up, like, oh, wag out, and I'll
Speaker 1: really not be thinking about what's going on. Like but
Speaker 1: to the extent of how a lot of like the
Speaker 1: people around me made it seem it was like it
Speaker 1: wasn't that deep, but well, I mean, you picked two
Speaker 1: h two passions that are extremely hard to make it in.
Speaker 1: They're definitely both plan as. Yeah, if you think about
Speaker 1: every like everyone who plays football across the country, and
Speaker 1: this amount of people make the NFL absolutely and I
Speaker 1: mean everyone is an artist. Absolutely, everybody is an artist.
Speaker 1: But it was just like that's why I said I'm blessed, Bro.
Speaker 1: I can't explain it. It's like I can't explain none
Speaker 1: of this shit because it's like it's just be happening
Speaker 1: and then it happened so fast. And then since I am,
Speaker 1: I am working and I keep just doing what I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to do like what I think I'm supposed to do,
Speaker 1: I just keep doing it. And so the shit just
Speaker 1: happened right under my eyes, like like looked up and
Speaker 1: like I used to beg like I do anything to
Speaker 1: get on Rolling Loud. I don't Role Loud, don't roll
Speaker 1: out like two years in row. Now that's huge. So
Speaker 1: it's like you feel me. But now when I got
Speaker 1: on Rolling Loud, you feel me. I did my shows.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not even worried about like that I'm on
Speaker 1: Rolling Loud. Now I'm worried about like, Okay, how am
Speaker 1: I going to have a crazy show? How you're going
Speaker 1: to be crazy? Feel me? How am I going to
Speaker 1: make my set at Rolling Loud memorable? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, so everything is just like what I'm
Speaker 1: worried about. Perspective, it's just getting different. Yees, like you
Speaker 1: want you to get that one thing checked off. It's
Speaker 1: I mean, I always tell everybody to like remember you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes I gotta stop and think to myself, like I like,
Speaker 1: like like try to put myself in that mentality of
Speaker 1: like I would have killed to be where I am now. Man,
Speaker 1: there was a point in time where all I wanted
Speaker 1: to do was make thirty thousand dollars a year. I
Speaker 1: was like eighteen, you know what I mean, like with
Speaker 1: a newborn baby, like thinking, damn, if I could get
Speaker 1: thirty bands a year, I'll be rich because I'm making
Speaker 1: twelve fifty an hour on the street team. Like and
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you, guys, sometimes you got to
Speaker 1: put yourself in that in that mentality you know, just
Speaker 1: to kind of but it's just like when you got there,
Speaker 1: no for sure, Like it's like, man, this shit and
Speaker 1: shit that like you've been going. And the other thing too,
Speaker 1: is like when you when you're when you're so locked in, bro,
Speaker 1: like you don't even stop to think about shit, you
Speaker 1: don't stop to like you passed that shit up real fast.
Speaker 1: Like it's almost like you don't stop to enjoy it.
Speaker 1: I remember getting five hundred dollars for a show, Like
Speaker 1: I remember like nigga telling me like now you got
Speaker 1: to pay the perform Yeah, you can't come before you
Speaker 1: gotta pay, Like all right, cool, well like them same
Speaker 1: niggas then all right, come on do you fifteen twenty
Speaker 1: come on Hunian bands? Now? Do you do you feel like?
Speaker 1: Because because you also obviously you know, going to school
Speaker 1: in San Diego. Do you feel like you kind of
Speaker 1: heat it up there first, Yeah, definitely, like because they
Speaker 1: fuck with you, they talk with you. Yeah we did.
Speaker 1: I think we did Flux together. Yeah. It was pretty
Speaker 1: it was It wasn't like ear. It was like two
Speaker 1: years ago. But like even before then, like I was
Speaker 1: doing clubs in San Diego in twenty fifteen. Oh that's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like I was like a whole different artist like then,
Speaker 1: Like I was like doing like trap shit. When you
Speaker 1: start is like get into the melody ship. Like when
Speaker 1: I was in eleven, I was just listening to beats
Speaker 1: and I came across uh Papa YouTube and I heard
Speaker 1: the Finance beat. I was just like I might at
Speaker 1: the scene, like it's hard, like na Homie was like
Speaker 1: I started playing, like I start singing and shit, and
Speaker 1: my nigga, my roommate see Lee a nigga, came out
Speaker 1: of his room and I was like, yeah, that's that's different,
Speaker 1: that's it, that's what you need to be doing. And
Speaker 1: I was like yeah. So the next day after that,
Speaker 1: I made Atlanta and we might have went to the
Speaker 1: club and like his cousins and shit came back with
Speaker 1: some girls, Like everybody was chilling in the spot and
Speaker 1: we was playing it and it was like this shit hard,
Speaker 1: like this tight, Like I was like, yeah, like y'all
Speaker 1: fuck with that shit. So like maybe like just throughout
Speaker 1: that week, I just start doing all kinds of beasts
Speaker 1: like that. Wow. And that's how I came up with too.
Speaker 1: For real, I shouldn't say like, uh, people don't know,
Speaker 1: get right with it. Spruce by Blast and see, look
Speaker 1: I had that be since probably like twenty fourteen. What
Speaker 1: do you mean you had that beastis like it was
Speaker 1: just like he just you know, he sent it to me.
Speaker 1: So me and Blast, I've been knowing Blast, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he sent me to beat, but I was only
Speaker 1: doing trap shit. Okay, So you were like for me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he sent me some trap shit too, so I get
Speaker 1: the trap shit you feel me. But it wasn't hard
Speaker 1: like I was doing trap shit. But it wasn't like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this niggas different. He sound like everybody else doing trap shit,
Speaker 1: like you feel me to me, That's how I felt.
Speaker 1: So I came back. That's actually the only song I
Speaker 1: did in La that and I did uh naked in La.
Speaker 1: So when I got back to LA I was doing
Speaker 1: a session. Oh okay, So Ray the Nigga'm signed to
Speaker 1: f c ran J. I'm signed to SG and Pool
Speaker 1: you know Pooh Jeter that own laced. Yeah. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: Pool was working with Chris Obannen, so I guess they
Speaker 1: didn't know we knew each other, so they had us
Speaker 1: come to the studio. So we just came to the
Speaker 1: studio random and like they were trying to get us
Speaker 1: to see if he was gonna vibe. And I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: that's Chris, Like that's the homie, Like he already knew us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he mixed my first ever song, my very first song ever,
Speaker 1: so and that's my boy that we've been had songs
Speaker 1: together and stuff like that when we high school and
Speaker 1: all kinds of shit. So it was just like chemistry.
Speaker 1: We did a couple of records and when we got started,
Speaker 1: he was like, you got some beats because he make
Speaker 1: beasts too. So I was on, you don't go to
Speaker 1: know like no session with no you gotta make beats
Speaker 1: and ask for it right right right, like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: use your beats. So I always he was like you
Speaker 1: got some more beats? I'm like yeah, I got some
Speaker 1: hard shit, Like I played the blast beat and then
Speaker 1: we was like, yeah, we're gonna do this one. We
Speaker 1: just knocked the song down. It was quick, like thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: I think it's dope that like you like at the
Speaker 1: moment you have like one of those ones. It's like
Speaker 1: an automatic song you have to play for DJing. Scoring
Speaker 1: is like one of those records, like right now, like
Speaker 1: you go to the club, no matter what peak hour,
Speaker 1: you're hearing that record and I feel like, get right
Speaker 1: with it was like very la record and it was
Speaker 1: huge here, but like Scoring feels like it's like it's
Speaker 1: like a moment, you know what I mean saying, like,
Speaker 1: and it's a record and by the way, it's a
Speaker 1: record that y'all really like works because it's been out
Speaker 1: for a minute. Bro, it's been out for a hot
Speaker 1: ass minute, pandemic baby, and it's like big, bigger than
Speaker 1: you know, like right now, it's probably the biggest it's been,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, not for real. I mean
Speaker 1: it's like it never I would I would say I'm blessed.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna it's never going backwards, Like nothing that
Speaker 1: I've been doing since I started doing stuff is going backwards, man,
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm just you know, I'm extremely appreciative
Speaker 1: that it's it's always a forward step, no matter if
Speaker 1: it's a slow step or are you feeling, no matter
Speaker 1: if I've standed still. I'm not gonna act like I've
Speaker 1: never been like paused. I've definitely been at like some
Speaker 1: stand steels, but I've never like put a song out
Speaker 1: and then my next song did horrible, you know, And
Speaker 1: even when it like when it has, I knew why
Speaker 1: because I didn't drop ship like win against the win
Speaker 1: against the label, Like I'm just from the throw this out,
Speaker 1: and they're like, bro, you're tripping, like why you to
Speaker 1: do that? But I was being thirsty. I wanted to
Speaker 1: have music. I thought I knew everything. You find, So
Speaker 1: it's like everything is a learning experience to me. So
Speaker 1: like I never go into the world thinking I know nothing,
Speaker 1: always going there willing to learn. So like it don't
Speaker 1: matter like what's going on, I don't never look at
Speaker 1: make it seem like I got the most information because
Speaker 1: you feel me, knowledge makes you more powerful, you know,
Speaker 1: it makes you the most powerful and the most like
Speaker 1: you feel me, you're with and all of that shit
Speaker 1: and it's just like a nigga can know so much
Speaker 1: if you just shut the fuck up and listen to everything,
Speaker 1: and everybody else is saying, that's some real shit, Like
Speaker 1: on God, you just got to shut the fuck up sometimes,
Speaker 1: like really, hey, that's some real shit. God if sometimes
Speaker 1: it's like you always hear like it's the quietest dude
Speaker 1: in the room, it's the smartest of the most dangerous
Speaker 1: because they are soaking everything so much. Yeah, there so much,
Speaker 1: seen so much. They already know what you got going
Speaker 1: on and how you moving and stuff like that. And
Speaker 1: I know I'm not quiet. I talk a lot, but
Speaker 1: I don't talk from a place of like trying to
Speaker 1: get you to understand what I'm saying. Like if I
Speaker 1: am trying to get you to understand what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get it so we both know where
Speaker 1: we're coming from. You know what I mean. Like, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna never try to make nobody feel how I feel,
Speaker 1: you know, but I want you to know how I
Speaker 1: feel so you can see where I'm coming from. And
Speaker 1: I want to know how you feel so I can
Speaker 1: see where you're coming from. It's the why for me,
Speaker 1: not the what It's always the why you know that's crazy?
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Speaker 1: I remember talking, you know when me and Head were
Speaker 1: doing Knights together. I know there was a bunch of
Speaker 1: labels that are trying to get at you. Some people
Speaker 1: drop the ball, others didn't, and you ended up with
Speaker 1: rock Nation. What made like rock Nation? Be like, like,
Speaker 1: what what's the fit like with like with rock Nation?
Speaker 1: Because obviously you know Parico was over there and they're not.
Speaker 1: They don't have the craziest history when it comes to
Speaker 1: like breaking new artists. I mean also specifically LA artists. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean with what you're saying that like they don't
Speaker 1: have the best history. You mean, I'm not saying they
Speaker 1: have a bad history, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they had j Cole and then you
Speaker 1: know there's a artists that they from LA. They really
Speaker 1: had an LA artist, right, another La Ars besides pere Eco, Right.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like they wanted me to shout
Speaker 1: out to the homie Earl too. Feel me like shout
Speaker 1: out Earl, that's that's my guy. But it's like talking
Speaker 1: like everything, I relate everything to women because that's the
Speaker 1: most experiences I've ever had. You feel me, you can't
Speaker 1: keep talking to a girl that don't want you. That's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Feel like it's cool, like she wanted to
Speaker 1: go out. You feel me. You could take her on
Speaker 1: the day and stuff like that, But that don't mean
Speaker 1: she like you. You know. If anything, if you lose it,
Speaker 1: yeah you losing If anything, you cut her off and
Speaker 1: ignore you feel me. So I mean I just always
Speaker 1: look at like like even with the recruiting process, like
Speaker 1: like with football and shit like that, like you gotta
Speaker 1: go where you're most comfortable. And just with rock Nation,
Speaker 1: you feel me. I felt like they wanted me just
Speaker 1: as much as I wanted them, you feel me. Not
Speaker 1: to say that I really wanted them, like, oh, I
Speaker 1: just want to be signing rock Nation, Like that's people
Speaker 1: want to signed to. Not saying that. It's saying that
Speaker 1: I knew where I wanted to be in my life,
Speaker 1: you know, and I knew with this music ship, what
Speaker 1: what's the next step and what I need? Like everybody
Speaker 1: don't need to sign to a label. This is facts. Man,
Speaker 1: It worked for some people, you feel me, But where
Speaker 1: I was, I was the next step, like you feel me.
Speaker 1: I was accepted. It was I was accepting that this
Speaker 1: was this is the next step. Also, like opportunities like
Speaker 1: you know, having scoring like be a part of NBA
Speaker 1: games and I mean, like, but nobody ever, Like I
Speaker 1: was already signed before that happened, so like I didn't
Speaker 1: know that was gonna happen. But you feel me, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take a chance on the people that's willing to
Speaker 1: take a chance on me. That's real. They genuinely gave
Speaker 1: a fuck about everything that was going on, and then
Speaker 1: they genuinely give a fuck about everything that I have
Speaker 1: going on, you know, And I know that also comes
Speaker 1: with with your progression and uh what you're doing. Like
Speaker 1: you know, I also know that if I start fucking
Speaker 1: up that or if you start making some bullshit you
Speaker 1: feel me, I'm call is not gonna get answered no more. Now.
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta. You have to do your part
Speaker 1: as much as they gotta do their part. Sometimes people
Speaker 1: don't realize that when they sign with labels. They're like,
Speaker 1: people don't fam you still got to do your part
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. Absolutely, absolutely, this ship
Speaker 1: is about you at the end of the day. And
Speaker 1: like respectively, like at the end of the day, Kaitlin,
Speaker 1: you're a product to the marketplace. Your music is a
Speaker 1: product and just because like I'm emotionally tied and connected
Speaker 1: to all of this ship. It doesn't matter. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, consumers have to want
Speaker 1: to consume your music. There is a business, it's not
Speaker 1: a fucking club. Life change, Yeah, don't mean that your
Speaker 1: life change. Like this ship is worked probably like you
Speaker 1: got to do your part as much as they got
Speaker 1: to do their part. Like a lot of people I'll
Speaker 1: be seeing unhappy with their labels. I'm like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: you're also good. What are you doing? What are you
Speaker 1: unhappy with your label? Well, you don't know if you're
Speaker 1: if you're like it's suicides to everything. You don't know
Speaker 1: if you're labeled unhappy with you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it's just like you gotta do what you gotta
Speaker 1: do so you can do what you want to do.
Speaker 1: You know. That's something like me and the Homies about
Speaker 1: like definitely go by, Like that's definitely quote we go by, Like,
Speaker 1: you definitely have to do what you gotta do so
Speaker 1: you can do what you want to do. Because if
Speaker 1: you do what you gotta do, you got a room
Speaker 1: for whatever. Do what you gotta do already, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's a simple thing you're saying.
Speaker 1: But it's like, Yo, you hear motherfuckers complain about their job,
Speaker 1: or like I want this, I want that, or Yo,
Speaker 1: why can't I go on vacation? It's like yo, because
Speaker 1: you ain't put you got to obviously put you. There's
Speaker 1: no excuses for nothing, bro, exactly like, there's no excuse
Speaker 1: you look in the fucking mirror. I look at it. Look, man,
Speaker 1: that's exactly how I look at it. Kiff Man. If
Speaker 1: you're telling me that I gotta do a B and C,
Speaker 1: you don't give a fuck what's going in between that.
Speaker 1: I could complain, I could talk ship and all of
Speaker 1: that ship, but I gotta do a B and C.
Speaker 1: I gotta do it because this is what I need
Speaker 1: to do to get to where I want to be. Clearly,
Speaker 1: I'm fucking with y'all because y'all know the where I
Speaker 1: want to be. You feel me. Every everybody has the
Speaker 1: same goal, eventually, you feel me in the long world.
Speaker 1: No matter if their goal is a personal goal, their
Speaker 1: goal is for you. Cause it doesn't like a lot
Speaker 1: of niggas be like, man, they don't fuck with me
Speaker 1: like that. Da da dah. You ain't doing this for me.
Speaker 1: You doing this for you. In the instrument somebody doing
Speaker 1: something for their self, they're doing it for you too,
Speaker 1: because your success is based off of them. Their success
Speaker 1: is best off of you. Their success is based off
Speaker 1: of everything that I'm doing. So you feel me like
Speaker 1: I'm a cool dude, like I'll be chilling like you
Speaker 1: feel me. I feel like I'm not no, like I
Speaker 1: don't be trying to act all extra tough and shit
Speaker 1: like that. And then I'm a people's person. I don't
Speaker 1: have a problem with people. I fuck with people. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, a lot of people get that
Speaker 1: misking screwed with thinking I'm so friendly. I just you
Speaker 1: feel me. I know it be going on like you
Speaker 1: feel me, and I know that everybody doesn't have to
Speaker 1: act that type of way with me, So you feel me.
Speaker 1: I'm just appreciative of everybody doing their best with me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. As long as you're doing
Speaker 1: the best that thing that you could do for what
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be doing, we can do it. But
Speaker 1: you don't got to like niggas be taking it too personal.
Speaker 1: You don't got to fuck with me to do your job. Good.
Speaker 1: Got some real shit. I don't gotta fuck with you
Speaker 1: to do my job. Good. Let's do what we're supposed
Speaker 1: to do. Let's get this shit done together. Therefore, when
Speaker 1: you look at your resume and I'm on your resume
Speaker 1: for the ship, that really look, it's a good look.
Speaker 1: And I look at my resume and you on my
Speaker 1: resume for the ship you did for me, I can't
Speaker 1: talk bad about you. Do your job, You do what
Speaker 1: you're supposed to do. We're not here for that, you
Speaker 1: feel me. That's some real shit, man, some real ship.
Speaker 1: With the uh extended version of the project coming out,
Speaker 1: the deluxe version, what's your favorite out of those new six?
Speaker 1: They all my babies, man, all of them. Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1: I mean it's gotta be harder. I mean, like it
Speaker 1: would be like at the end of the day, there's
Speaker 1: a reason why they made the album, ycause, I'm sure
Speaker 1: you have like thirty other songs you could have choose. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: actually it's been like thirty deluxies. That's yeah, So those
Speaker 1: had to be the six that you love. No, I
Speaker 1: mean like a fuck with dirt heavy, you feel me,
Speaker 1: I fuck with like like his homies and shit is
Speaker 1: my homies like said like C three Sparrow and all
Speaker 1: the niggas like Dooty Low like you feel me. I
Speaker 1: mean it's good. I mean look Dirk right now was
Speaker 1: on fire bro. Yeah, but not even on Dick riding
Speaker 1: shit because lot of niggas be trying to get close
Speaker 1: to nigga because of what niggas got going on. It
Speaker 1: ain't even about that. Like I literally like, like you
Speaker 1: feel me, I literally fuck with them niggas. Like when
Speaker 1: we at the studio, I be with the niggas, like
Speaker 1: we ordered me some food to food. It's good like that,
Speaker 1: Like I'll funck with them niggas. So like it's cool,
Speaker 1: like big Zoo, all of them niggas, Like I'll be
Speaker 1: cool with them. And I'm not saying that I'm best
Speaker 1: friends with them niggas, but like you was on that
Speaker 1: show in az that like fake got shot up, but
Speaker 1: it didn't actually get shot up. Someone just dropped the mic. Yo.
Speaker 1: She was lit. That shit looked like a fucking she
Speaker 1: was crazy. That shit looked like a hot ass mess.
Speaker 1: People was getting trampled all kinds of shit. That was
Speaker 1: like a kind of show that was like the first
Speaker 1: big show in Phoenix, since COVID happened and she was huge.
Speaker 1: It was like ten thousand people, I know, and there
Speaker 1: was only supposed to be like seven thousand. They busted
Speaker 1: the gate down. Yeah, they knocked the gate down, so hello,
Speaker 1: people were there that didn't pay That ship was, oh
Speaker 1: my god, what called? Just come fuck it? You just
Speaker 1: pull up. You don't need a ticket. This ship is
Speaker 1: on ticket. Just come this ship. Crazy out here, you're
Speaker 1: there when like the mic got dropped and everyone started
Speaker 1: freaking the fuck out standing on the speaker, oh man,
Speaker 1: and then I put that motherfucker. I was looking at
Speaker 1: people up under me running into the you know, the
Speaker 1: like the crossing, the balls that be crossing people running
Speaker 1: getting knocked down. I'm like, my fucking security guards snatched
Speaker 1: me down. Niggas made like a fucking TP on top
Speaker 1: of me. They really thought somebody was sure. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: get off me. I don't like how y'all man handling me.
Speaker 1: The night before that in San Diego, they start fighting
Speaker 1: in the club. You feel me, They snatched me off
Speaker 1: the stage in the club. I'm like, bro, y'all keep
Speaker 1: doing me like that. I'm six foot, Like you're not
Speaker 1: You're not a athlete. Man, right, I'm gonna get down
Speaker 1: bron be snatchy, but I love him. You feel me.
Speaker 1: They doing what they're supposed to do. But it's just
Speaker 1: like that crazy happening. You know that ship go man
Speaker 1: nah for sure. Did you ever like you know obviously
Speaker 1: coming from STSU Marshall Falk Yeah, Kawhi Leonard, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: ever linked with any of those guys? I mean like
Speaker 1: Marshall Fulk used to come talk to us and ship
Speaker 1: like that all the time. So like you feel me,
Speaker 1: I know who Bro is and uh like Kawhi Kawhi
Speaker 1: like quiet, Yeah, he's an interesting guy. He's like you
Speaker 1: gotta be his friend to be around or yeah, but
Speaker 1: I didn't see him like Nigga put the may back
Speaker 1: up like park on the in front of the gym,
Speaker 1: like ain't no parking lot like he feel to put
Speaker 1: the may back up in front of the gym. So
Speaker 1: like you feel me, I ain't seen Kawhi and shit
Speaker 1: like that. And just see him Bro, like I was
Speaker 1: still playing football because he older than me, like he
Speaker 1: graduated when I got there. Got so you feel me
Speaker 1: like I you see him coming back. He's originally from
Speaker 1: the Ie right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, but like you feel
Speaker 1: me like a Q and ship like a fuck with
Speaker 1: AQAQ play basketball up there and he would make music
Speaker 1: and shipp now to you rap that's my boy though,
Speaker 1: you feel me. But he knew all of them, so
Speaker 1: just h me fucking with him. I got to see
Speaker 1: them sometimes like him and in like Dwayne Polley, like
Speaker 1: that's want to be no, like good homies and shit
Speaker 1: like that. And then I feel like when we talked
Speaker 1: to Blue Bucks, did they say that they played? Did
Speaker 1: they did? Because they used to play football, said used
Speaker 1: to play football with you read football against each other
Speaker 1: and like that growing up? Yeah, like god, I was
Speaker 1: finna play with them, but I ended up playing from
Speaker 1: on the park I played. I was going to play
Speaker 1: for the demos with them, the niggas play for the demos.
Speaker 1: I end up playing from on the park. Me and
Speaker 1: my cousin ended up going over there because we moved
Speaker 1: to Comptent. But like, bro, the world's so small, Me
Speaker 1: and one take played football together that this ship is small,
Speaker 1: like like small. Why do you think now in LA
Speaker 1: there's such a high level of camaraderie as to where
Speaker 1: like the previous era of LA music, I feel like
Speaker 1: the previous couple eras of LA music, it seemed like
Speaker 1: there was a lot more division. Obviously, we said we
Speaker 1: weren't gonna make it like that. Everyone works together, and
Speaker 1: we said we weren't gonna make it like that. Like
Speaker 1: you feel me, everybody has their own personal politics. You
Speaker 1: can't get into that right that comes automatically with just
Speaker 1: being from LA. But the respect right now is high
Speaker 1: for each other because you feel me, people are starting
Speaker 1: to realize, like you feel me, nobody is going to
Speaker 1: respect us as a whole. Nless we respect ourselves and
Speaker 1: you ain't moving together. That's what Atlanta's was doing so
Speaker 1: well for so long. They gotta respect us as a whole.
Speaker 1: We gotta have each other back, and like you feel me,
Speaker 1: we can't never put us out game banging because that's
Speaker 1: shit real. You feel me, game banging is really real.
Speaker 1: Niggas is out here game banging. Like don't think Nigga's
Speaker 1: not really game banging, because niggas is doing that. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, like not to I don't want
Speaker 1: to never make this sound weird because I don't never
Speaker 1: want to disrespect nobody. But a lot of people would
Speaker 1: say that the niggas. That's making music. It's not game banging,
Speaker 1: and that's not true because the niggas is game banging too.
Speaker 1: But as a man, first, it comes a point where
Speaker 1: you have to realize, like it's opportunity out here, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I mean everybody moving to others
Speaker 1: stronger than everyone being absolutely, but not just even saying,
Speaker 1: just from a personal standpoint, I don't game bang, so
Speaker 1: I'm not in all that. I don't have the same
Speaker 1: policies as everybody else, right, you feel me. So I
Speaker 1: could go right here, go right there, go do this,
Speaker 1: go do that, go to that. I'll be cool, you
Speaker 1: feel me. But a lot of niggas can't do that.
Speaker 1: But when it's time to do the music, like niggas
Speaker 1: having shows and shit, some reason niggas is respecting each other,
Speaker 1: so they letting everybody. I mean, I always tell everybody.
Speaker 1: When Archie and Grido did that show on stage together,
Speaker 1: that was the first versus battle. That was hard as
Speaker 1: a motherfucker, and nothing bad happened. Nothing bad happened, but
Speaker 1: that was just like to show it can happen. That
Speaker 1: shit was crazy, you feel me, it showing happened. But
Speaker 1: the city's just live bro like right now, because it's
Speaker 1: like everybody really know each other and everybody really like
Speaker 1: I'm really a fan of the homies, Like I'm really
Speaker 1: if I really like their music, I like what they're doing,
Speaker 1: and then I want them to do whatever they want
Speaker 1: to do. So if it's anything like you feel me,
Speaker 1: if you having a show, I would not come right,
Speaker 1: why wouldn't I come here? So I'm not doing shit.
Speaker 1: I'm not hatinging you because when I have a come
Speaker 1: to my ship and you feel me, niggas is cool. Like,
Speaker 1: it's it's harder to hate on a nigga. It's way harder,
Speaker 1: That's true. It's way harder because you really have to pickpoint,
Speaker 1: pick apart what you hate because this nigga could be
Speaker 1: doing something that this nigga that you like is doing
Speaker 1: they doing. It's so much easier to show love. It's easy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's easy to be like and you go to sleep
Speaker 1: at night with just feeling no niggas. That's what I'm saying. Man,
Speaker 1: you start hating, start, you gotta putting that energy in
Speaker 1: the Yeah. Fuck like man, everybody running their own race,
Speaker 1: like my my success is not based off of anybody
Speaker 1: else's success because I don't have to be here at all. Right,
Speaker 1: that's real. You feel me? This ship is not like
Speaker 1: this is just because it's happening to me. It wasn't
Speaker 1: supposed to happen to me, like you feel me like
Speaker 1: I didn't. Like, ain't nothing written that this was gonna
Speaker 1: happen for me. Nobody is owed anything, bro, whole body,
Speaker 1: you feel me and I can't. And if you're trying
Speaker 1: to base your success off somebody else's success, you ain't
Speaker 1: be happy. Facts that. That's the worst part about the
Speaker 1: rap game in general is people they you know I
Speaker 1: call a pocket watching. It's like motherfuckers is too busy
Speaker 1: watching what everyone else is doing and then having having
Speaker 1: that psych themselves out and you don't even be knowing
Speaker 1: what be going on make It makes you if you
Speaker 1: pay so much attention to what somebody's doing, this may
Speaker 1: be doing better than you. It makes you second guess
Speaker 1: what you're doing. Be wearing fake jewelry, fake clothes, all
Speaker 1: kinds of shit, and you're trying to keep up with
Speaker 1: a nigga you don't know what he got going on.
Speaker 1: Some niggas don't even wrap. Some niggas are really street
Speaker 1: niggas and just got money. Some niggas got good jobs.
Speaker 1: Some niggas being the navy and they getting a check
Speaker 1: every month. They gonna get they check every month. Some
Speaker 1: niggas is disable getting what is what's that ship called
Speaker 1: your disability ability? That's that's all niggas is getting money
Speaker 1: from everywhere. So why are you worried about this? Nigga?
Speaker 1: You don't got nothing to do. You need to worry about.
Speaker 1: You gets you some money, like you feel mes be
Speaker 1: worried about the wrong ship. That's why I think it's
Speaker 1: dopeest because I think that that was maybe like a
Speaker 1: symptom of like also like you know, it's it seems
Speaker 1: like with like guys like yourself. When take Jay Blast
Speaker 1: being routie, everyone you know, they're just doing everyone's doing
Speaker 1: them and and it's like it's with positivity, it's with camaraderie,
Speaker 1: and like nobody's like, ah, well not man, his shit
Speaker 1: ain't this shit? Man? Blast this man, Blast ain't ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. My shit harder than Blast ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I'm just saying her
Speaker 1: as an example because because Blast would be the guy
Speaker 1: everyone could look at it and be like, God, this
Speaker 1: motherfucker's on fire some type of way. But why would you, like,
Speaker 1: why would you hit on that niggas give him weird
Speaker 1: doing his thing? That doesn't mean that you're not going
Speaker 1: to get there, nah, that just means like, yo, be
Speaker 1: happy doing his thing. Absolutely, like people be getting too
Speaker 1: caught up in what everybody else says, because it don't
Speaker 1: really be. It's not. It's there the people around you.
Speaker 1: Gotta do this. You gotta do that, man, we gotta
Speaker 1: do it work for us. Yep, we just do what work.
Speaker 1: Stick to the game plan, bro, put your put your
Speaker 1: head down, and get to it. I look at it
Speaker 1: like this. I'll give a million dollars right now. You
Speaker 1: feel me. I'm gonna give a million dollars right now.
Speaker 1: You got a million dollars. Now you're a millionaire. Now
Speaker 1: what now? What exactly? So you're gonna keep doing everything
Speaker 1: that you've been doing, right, You're gonna go live your life. Also,
Speaker 1: I mean with the Blast conversation, the guy's been making
Speaker 1: music for years plus years since like eighth seven, we're
Speaker 1: talking to Jason Cash about it. He said that he
Speaker 1: made his first song with Blast and oh eight Yeah,
Speaker 1: like we've been making songs for years, but not just
Speaker 1: even not even talking about blasts, no, no no, but just
Speaker 1: in general what you were saying, like yeah, like okay, cool, here,
Speaker 1: here's a million dollars. Now what you're gonna do? Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: but not even that, it's just saying like, because I
Speaker 1: hear the conversation, there's that is a conversation. They can't
Speaker 1: act like it's not a conversation. But bro going up,
Speaker 1: he's doing his thing. Who is to say that next
Speaker 1: year I won't have a year? Like I mean, you're
Speaker 1: having a year. Yeah, But I'm just saying, like you
Speaker 1: feel me from what the conversations be like, you know
Speaker 1: what people politics is and how people like view it. Like,
Speaker 1: all right, he having his time, he going up. I'm
Speaker 1: proud of my God, you feel me. I'm happy for him.
Speaker 1: Who is to say that I won't have a time
Speaker 1: even if it's next year, it's next month, next week,
Speaker 1: ten years from now. Well, also, I can still get
Speaker 1: to wherever I need to be. You know, every everyone wins.
Speaker 1: When someone wins like that, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: like it's big for the city because now everybody's looking
Speaker 1: at the city exactly, Bro, you feel me like everyone's
Speaker 1: gonna win, Like well, like I mean think that, like
Speaker 1: you know, shit Kendrick Lamar, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: what happened with like you know Kendrick then the whole
Speaker 1: label was just on QE. We got to see q
Speaker 1: in the as the superstar. He is getting Grammys exactly.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like niggas getting Grammys. This
Speaker 1: shit real here. Yeah. So I just think I think
Speaker 1: LA music is in a good position man, And obviously
Speaker 1: you know you're in the forefront of that. And you
Speaker 1: know the project is how many? First of all, how
Speaker 1: many songs you're sitting on like like a lot? I
Speaker 1: guess a number fifty more? George, how mean the songs
Speaker 1: we sitting on? One hundred and seventy five to two
Speaker 1: hundred songs? He just said, that's like ready to go.
Speaker 1: That's Tupac shit. That's ready to go. We got like
Speaker 1: a whole another hard drive for the shit. That's Wayne shit. Man.
Speaker 1: You do you when you go in and like record
Speaker 1: is your writing process like like just coming up with
Speaker 1: the melody first and punching on the lyrics or you
Speaker 1: like actually right, like no, I just whatever I hear,
Speaker 1: just go in the booth and just lay it down
Speaker 1: and then like yesterday, it was the first time I
Speaker 1: ever tried to like hear all the beats before I
Speaker 1: record it, and I was like the worst process I've
Speaker 1: ever did, end of my life. Like like, Yo, we're
Speaker 1: in the car, play some beats. No, now you're in
Speaker 1: the studio, throw some shit on. I'm gonna in the boot,
Speaker 1: put the headphones on, figure it out. Like literally, whatever
Speaker 1: beat they play first, whatever beats you play first in
Speaker 1: the studio, I'm finna go do it right now. Oh
Speaker 1: that's fucking crazy. It on unless I just don't like it,
Speaker 1: unless trash, like not me, like not even be trash.
Speaker 1: It's just not be not for you. Yeah, you feel me.
Speaker 1: With the first one, I hear like I look around
Speaker 1: the room, i'm'a looking around the room. I'm look at George,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at the home. I'm gona look at you,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at everybody. They're gonna be like they
Speaker 1: start doing this alright, loaded up fire, let's go. Let
Speaker 1: me roll up real quickly, trying to get right. Well, look,
Speaker 1: Friday's out, go go support, go stream that ship running
Speaker 1: even sixteen Man to for Real to the Deluxe Roland Loud.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be New York or Miami in LA right,
Speaker 1: Miami l A it slick. Go get them tickets for
Speaker 1: the tour coming to a city near you too, for
Speaker 1: Real boom you know