WEBVTT - #87 - Kalan.FrFr 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:15.800 Yeah, all right, it in yup, yup, yup yup. Welcome 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:17.800 to the Bootleg cav podcast. Man, we got a shout 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:20.840 out to my guy, LA's finest, the homie Kaitlin for real, 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:24.880 for real, Kaitlin too, for real. He is on the 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:28.720 podcast today. Signed a rock Nation, got a crazy record 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:30.920 out right now called Scoring that's going crazy. He's been 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:34.159 just building up his entire just just following buzz In 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:37.040 La for the last three years or so. And uh man, 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:38.760 we had a dope conversation home. He used to play 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.560 college football at SDSU, so we got to chop it 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:43.600 up with him before we get into that though. 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Let's get into the interview, Yo, 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:22.920 boutlet Cavs show here special guests, Man, my guy, Kaitlin, 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:26.080 what's going on now? Kaitlyn? I always say Kaitlin too 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:27.800 for real, kailin for real for real? How what is 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:31.920 the proper uh? What is the proper pronunciation? For people 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.400 who don't know? It's Kaitlyn for real for real? Okay, 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.240 but you can say too for real too, because too 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.680 for real is just for real for real two for 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:44.360 it's the two for two of them. Yeah, yeah, shout Outsai, 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.080 my guy, We're gonna just gonna We're just gonna call 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:49.440 you two for two for Kiln too for. I got 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.880 the a lot. I like that anyway, Yo, you got 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.800 your new project coming out, Well, this is a deluxe 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:58.640 of your project that came out earlier this year, Too 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:00.760 for Real two deluxe. How how are you approaching the 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:02.920 deluxe thing? Because sometimes we get like four new songs 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:04.640 and then you got people like Ozzi put a whole 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:06.400 fucking new album out. What do you do? I got 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.800 like six of them, so it's six new songs, new songs, yeah, 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:12.480 any new features, Like was on a Dirk on there 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.560 shout out to the City Blue Books on there you 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:21.480 feel Me? Mada madea singing on there. You made it? Yeah, 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:25.160 Rock Nature does his whole team. Yeah, that's it. That's 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:29.240 all right. Well listen you You know what I appreciated 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.760 about how you kind of like started to heat up. 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:37.799 Was you like you like went to Atlanta, you went 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:39.280 to the South and he was tapping it with like 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.880 guys like DJ Win and like you was like you 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.240 kind of like like heat it up, like made sure 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.320 like your relationships and like you were popping in like 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:49.760 other regions as well as La, where I feel like 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:53.320 a lot of times in La, like this is like 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:56.359 such a small world sometimes and it's it's easy to 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.600 get wrapped up and being hot here. But very few 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:02.480 already from out here in the last decade or so 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:06.080 have like really transcended nationwide. You know what I'm saying, right, 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.320 I would say, like you feel me? It was never 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.280 like planned, right, like that that wasn't never really a plan. 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:14.239 It's just where I was ending up. And like looking 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.760 back at it now, I could go back and be like, yeah, 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:18.880 well I did this, and then this helped this and that, 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.519 Like but like at the time, it just was like, hey, 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:24.040 fuck it, I'm gonna just go to Atlanta. Like do 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:25.520 you think that that helped you? Though? Like in the 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.480 long run, I felt like Atlanta gave me the confidence 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.440 that I needed to be an artist overall, you know, 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:36.880 because it's like in Atlanta, everybody is everything. This is facts, 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.800 like everybody does everything. And then like to me, just 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.400 from what I see is like everybody a celebrity. It 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.360 don't matter what you do. You could be a janitor, 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:46.200 you could be a rapper, you could own a club, 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:48.480 you could you feel me have a car wash, It 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.800 don't matter what she is. But like everybody promote theyself 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.760 as like they're the best shit. This is the best shit. 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:56.320 You got to come right here to get this, Like 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.000 all right, you feel me? So like just with with 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:03.120 being out there being like seeing everybody else, just like 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.040 being so confident in it matter if a nigga had 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.560 five followers or ten followers, like he knew he was hard. 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.360 You know. I had like a lot of trouble in 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:13.160 the beginning, like understanding like if I was like good 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.359 at making music, because it's like I liked it. You 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.000 feel me the people around me, like my homies, and shit, 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.080 it was telling me it was cool. But then my 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.960 homies you know what they're supposed to be like, and 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:25.720 you feel me, they're telling me shit was weak too. 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.279 But it was just like, are you telling me this 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.560 is good for me? Are you telling me this is 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:32.800 good enough for the world? You know what I mean. 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:37.200 So it was more like just being in Atlanta. I 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:40.760 don't know, I just kind of grew as a person fully, 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.760 you know, not really like saying like the like the 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.520 big music scene, because like when I first got to Atlanta, 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:48.479 I was doing the same shit I was doing in 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:50.480 La Like I was recording in the house, like all 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:52.160 the two for real, the whole first two phar Real 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.039 was recorded in the house, like Edu kitchen. Yeah, Like 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:57.839 what's crazy too, because like you said, like I think, 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:00.640 like a lot of people, you left home, went to 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:04.000 college in San Diego, played football there, and then went 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.479 to Atlanta to just get the music ship going. Like 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.840 you know, people don't realize like leaving your hometown and 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:14.680 taking that like risk, that scary unknown, like just leaving 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.159 it helps so much because dude, you can't be scared 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.119 to grow like and expand it because like you gotta 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.440 meet people everywhere, like nine times out of ten, like 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:24.880 I'm not gonna shut up here in front of act 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.480 like the city is fucking because a lot of people wasn't, 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:31.440 you know. So it was just like, all right, shit, 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.120 I'm gonna just go out here, you know, see if 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:35.760 they fuck with me. Yeah, I just think that like 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.120 people get so I feel like when you're at home 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.640 and you get comfortable, you almost got to leave home 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:44.440 to realize, like, yeah, it's like sink or swim. You 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.640 ain't got your family around, You got nobody around. That's 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:48.120 what it was like. Nigga Beckle was all the way 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.680 up against the wall. It was like you feel me, 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:52.400 either you're gonna make this shit happen or you not, 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:56.040 you know, and just like I ain't. I'm really blessed. 0:05:56.600 --> 0:06:00.800 I don't know what it is like I couldn't tell you, 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:04.880 like if it's like man should just start working and 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:06.400 like people be like I got a lot of the 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:08.880 hard work ethic and stuff like that, and then I 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:10.840 look back and see it and I like, I enjoy 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:14.159 working hard and stuff like that. But you get lost 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:16.960 when you're doing something that you want to do like 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.720 you feel me, like I love doing this shit, so 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.760 it don't feel like I'm working hard, right, It doesn't 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.680 feel like that to me, like you feel me. So 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.880 when people be like, oh, like he's so humble and he, 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:29.680 like you feel me, he works so hard, he put 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:31.800 in so much work, like like this is what you're 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.640 supposed to do. Yeah, if you love what you're doing, 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:36.200 they say you never working there in your life, I 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.880 ain't working. This shit is just you feel me. It's work, 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.719 but I ain't working, right, You know it's work because 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:43.960 other people are involved now, So now I got to 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.240 like you feel me, It becomes work when it's like 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:50.280 other people's livelihood or all right, nigga, like you feel 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.040 me like this is how they make their money, This 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:53.800 is how they feed their family and stuff like that. 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:55.720 So you got to do your part so that you 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:57.960 make sure everybody feel me because they taking a chance 0:06:57.960 --> 0:06:59.800 on you. You You feel me, So when it will come 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:01.960 to that, that's when I started understanding, like it's work, 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.400 but making music is not work for me, you know, 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:07.880 like that shit just fun. Like I like to make music, 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.640 you know, and I'm always going through ship like you 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:13.560 always are inspired to Yeah, he's like you said, if 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:15.480 you're always going through shit or you're living your life, 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:19.080 you're gonna have new content to write every day. People 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.800 don't be living or people be faking what they be living. 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.400 That's real, bro, People don't be living like that. They 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:26.840 be on their phone at home or they be But 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:28.840 nigga going the song and talk about he killed six 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:32.000 niggas today, Like you mean, no, you didn't. You've been 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:34.840 playing two K all day. You feel me, I'm gonna 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:38.720 talk about two K. Niggas always want to use Lebroniga's 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:43.200 not good. Hey, man, shout to my son. That's my son, man, 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.040 My son will always be picking the Lakers. I'm like, bro, 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:48.320 come on, man, got to pick somebody else. Pick three randoms, man, 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.640 three randoms, always tell them. I'm like, yo, just hit 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:52.600 the R two. Let the randoms pick and we'll see 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.080 who wins. Or let's pick the two worst teams in 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:59.160 the league and then and let's see who playt see who. Yeah, 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.160 let's see who's good with the Pistons. You know he 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:04.080 always used the Lakers and the bucks Man. Yeah, Joannis 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:07.520 is the cheat code in the game too, man, Yeah, 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.600 what uh so? What when you went into US. So 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.120 if people don't know you graduated high school, you went 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:18.760 to San Diego State University to play football. How talk 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:20.880 about your football past? How long did you play? Like 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.440 you know life, I played football, like from when I 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.120 was like my first time playing football was like ten 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:31.280 years old when I played up until I was twenty one. Yeah, 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:33.840 so it was like twenty two. That was. What would 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.200 you say football was your first love before music? Nah? 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:39.080 Because I always loved music, like I always been, like 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:42.120 I got Michael Jackson teded on me like I always 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.760 been like a big oh yeah that is Michael Jackson 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:48.200 his fee of moonwalking. So like I always been like 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.560 into Michael Jackson and like in just music period, you 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:57.080 too early. I can't do that. Don't do that over here, man, 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.640 Come on, I'm saying he might have been. Nah, No, 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:04.080 you know, I'm just continue to continue. You're always into music? Yeah, 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:10.679 I always like music though, but it it's always been 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:14.000 like having two girlfriends. Yeah yeah, so it's just like 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:19.280 somebody always like lacked, somebody always felt like I wasn't 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:21.480 giving it enough or something like that, and then I 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.320 got it. Like that was like one of my biggest things, 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.440 like my coaches just be saying shit like, bro, like 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:27.760 you too focused on rap, Like you need to worry 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:29.960 about what you need to be doing, and shit like that. 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.160 Even if I wasn't fucking up, it always was a thing, 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:34.640 you know, like it always was a thing. And I'm 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:36.200 not gonna act like I was the best player, like 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.360 I'll be fucking up, like, oh, wag out, and I'll 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:41.280 really not be thinking about what's going on. Like but 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.439 to the extent of how a lot of like the 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.719 people around me made it seem it was like it 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.520 wasn't that deep, but well, I mean, you picked two 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.440 h two passions that are extremely hard to make it in. 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:56.760 They're definitely both plan as. Yeah, if you think about 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.000 every like everyone who plays football across the country, and 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.640 this amount of people make the NFL absolutely and I 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:05.480 mean everyone is an artist. Absolutely, everybody is an artist. 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:07.839 But it was just like that's why I said I'm blessed, Bro. 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.400 I can't explain it. It's like I can't explain none 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:13.480 of this shit because it's like it's just be happening 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.640 and then it happened so fast. And then since I am, 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.760 I am working and I keep just doing what I'm 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:21.880 supposed to do like what I think I'm supposed to do, 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.560 I just keep doing it. And so the shit just 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.920 happened right under my eyes, like like looked up and 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:34.520 like I used to beg like I do anything to 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:37.959 get on Rolling Loud. I don't Role Loud, don't roll 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.080 out like two years in row. Now that's huge. So 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:41.720 it's like you feel me. But now when I got 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:43.559 on Rolling Loud, you feel me. I did my shows. 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:45.800 Now I'm not even worried about like that I'm on 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:47.920 Rolling Loud. Now I'm worried about like, Okay, how am 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.000 I going to have a crazy show? How you're going 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:51.160 to be crazy? Feel me? How am I going to 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.160 make my set at Rolling Loud memorable? You know what 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:57.080 I mean? Like, so everything is just like what I'm 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:00.800 worried about. Perspective, it's just getting different. Yees, like you 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.920 want you to get that one thing checked off. It's 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:09.040 I mean, I always tell everybody to like remember you know, 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.120 sometimes I gotta stop and think to myself, like I like, 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.360 like like try to put myself in that mentality of 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:18.600 like I would have killed to be where I am now. Man, 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:20.840 there was a point in time where all I wanted 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:23.640 to do was make thirty thousand dollars a year. I 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:25.199 was like eighteen, you know what I mean, like with 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.839 a newborn baby, like thinking, damn, if I could get 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:29.960 thirty bands a year, I'll be rich because I'm making 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:33.000 twelve fifty an hour on the street team. Like and 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.079 it's like, you know, you, guys, sometimes you got to 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.360 put yourself in that in that mentality you know, just 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:40.440 to kind of but it's just like when you got there, 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:42.959 no for sure, Like it's like, man, this shit and 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.920 shit that like you've been going. And the other thing too, 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.880 is like when you when you're when you're so locked in, bro, 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:51.280 like you don't even stop to think about shit, you 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.680 don't stop to like you passed that shit up real fast. 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:55.880 Like it's almost like you don't stop to enjoy it. 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:58.800 I remember getting five hundred dollars for a show, Like 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.520 I remember like nigga telling me like now you got 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.080 to pay the perform Yeah, you can't come before you 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:08.040 gotta pay, Like all right, cool, well like them same 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.760 niggas then all right, come on do you fifteen twenty 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.520 come on Hunian bands? Now? Do you do you feel like? 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.559 Because because you also obviously you know, going to school 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:18.959 in San Diego. Do you feel like you kind of 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.840 heat it up there first, Yeah, definitely, like because they 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.640 fuck with you, they talk with you. Yeah we did. 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.600 I think we did Flux together. Yeah. It was pretty 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.400 it was It wasn't like ear. It was like two 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.040 years ago. But like even before then, like I was 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:37.200 doing clubs in San Diego in twenty fifteen. Oh that's crazy. Yeah, 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.360 but like I was like a whole different artist like then, 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.920 Like I was like doing like trap shit. When you 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:46.199 start is like get into the melody ship. Like when 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:50.520 I was in eleven, I was just listening to beats 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:56.959 and I came across uh Papa YouTube and I heard 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:02.280 the Finance beat. I was just like I might at 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:06.000 the scene, like it's hard, like na Homie was like 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:09.880 I started playing, like I start singing and shit, and 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.520 my nigga, my roommate see Lee a nigga, came out 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:16.840 of his room and I was like, yeah, that's that's different, 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.320 that's it, that's what you need to be doing. And 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:22.520 I was like yeah. So the next day after that, 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:25.920 I made Atlanta and we might have went to the 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.080 club and like his cousins and shit came back with 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.840 some girls, Like everybody was chilling in the spot and 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.640 we was playing it and it was like this shit hard, 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:37.600 like this tight, Like I was like, yeah, like y'all 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:41.640 fuck with that shit. So like maybe like just throughout 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:43.400 that week, I just start doing all kinds of beasts 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:46.000 like that. Wow. And that's how I came up with too. 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:50.040 For real, I shouldn't say like, uh, people don't know, 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:53.760 get right with it. Spruce by Blast and see, look 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:57.120 I had that be since probably like twenty fourteen. What 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:58.640 do you mean you had that beastis like it was 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:00.560 just like he just you know, he sent it to me. 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.720 So me and Blast, I've been knowing Blast, right, Yeah, 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.080 so he sent me to beat, but I was only 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.720 doing trap shit. Okay, So you were like for me, Yeah, 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:09.040 he sent me some trap shit too, so I get 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.720 the trap shit you feel me. But it wasn't hard 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.080 like I was doing trap shit. But it wasn't like, Okay, 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.079 this niggas different. He sound like everybody else doing trap shit, 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:17.559 like you feel me to me, That's how I felt. 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:22.280 So I came back. That's actually the only song I 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:25.920 did in La that and I did uh naked in La. 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:28.920 So when I got back to LA I was doing 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:32.720 a session. Oh okay, So Ray the Nigga'm signed to 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:34.840 f c ran J. I'm signed to SG and Pool 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.680 you know Pooh Jeter that own laced. Yeah. Yeah. So 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:41.040 Pool was working with Chris Obannen, so I guess they 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.040 didn't know we knew each other, so they had us 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.480 come to the studio. So we just came to the 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.400 studio random and like they were trying to get us 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.360 to see if he was gonna vibe. And I'm like, bro, 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.840 that's Chris, Like that's the homie, Like he already knew us. Yeah, 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.720 he mixed my first ever song, my very first song ever, 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:58.920 so and that's my boy that we've been had songs 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:00.840 together and stuff like that when we high school and 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:05.000 all kinds of shit. So it was just like chemistry. 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.840 We did a couple of records and when we got started, 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:09.640 he was like, you got some beats because he make 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:11.520 beasts too. So I was on, you don't go to 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.600 know like no session with no you gotta make beats 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:16.040 and ask for it right right right, like I'm gonna 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.280 use your beats. So I always he was like you 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.240 got some more beats? I'm like yeah, I got some 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:24.200 hard shit, Like I played the blast beat and then 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:26.600 we was like, yeah, we're gonna do this one. We 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.880 just knocked the song down. It was quick, like thirty minutes. 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:32.640 I think it's dope that like you like at the 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:36.240 moment you have like one of those ones. It's like 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:40.200 an automatic song you have to play for DJing. Scoring 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.680 is like one of those records, like right now, like 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.520 you go to the club, no matter what peak hour, 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:50.440 you're hearing that record and I feel like, get right 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:54.200 with it was like very la record and it was 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:58.920 huge here, but like Scoring feels like it's like it's 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:00.520 like a moment, you know what I mean saying, like, 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:02.280 and it's a record and by the way, it's a 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:06.080 record that y'all really like works because it's been out 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.160 for a minute. Bro, it's been out for a hot 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:12.240 ass minute, pandemic baby, and it's like big, bigger than 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.200 you know, like right now, it's probably the biggest it's been, 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:15.640 you know what I mean, not for real. I mean 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:19.440 it's like it never I would I would say I'm blessed. 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:24.560 I'm not gonna it's never going backwards, Like nothing that 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:28.680 I've been doing since I started doing stuff is going backwards, man, 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.680 you know. So I'm just you know, I'm extremely appreciative 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:34.200 that it's it's always a forward step, no matter if 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:36.400 it's a slow step or are you feeling, no matter 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.320 if I've standed still. I'm not gonna act like I've 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:41.560 never been like paused. I've definitely been at like some 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:45.760 stand steels, but I've never like put a song out 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.920 and then my next song did horrible, you know, And 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.600 even when it like when it has, I knew why 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.320 because I didn't drop ship like win against the win 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:56.000 against the label, Like I'm just from the throw this out, 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.840 and they're like, bro, you're tripping, like why you to 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.360 do that? But I was being thirsty. I wanted to 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.480 have music. I thought I knew everything. You find, So 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:05.840 it's like everything is a learning experience to me. So 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.320 like I never go into the world thinking I know nothing, 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.320 always going there willing to learn. So like it don't 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:13.600 matter like what's going on, I don't never look at 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:15.960 make it seem like I got the most information because 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:20.040 you feel me, knowledge makes you more powerful, you know, 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.600 it makes you the most powerful and the most like 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:24.160 you feel me, you're with and all of that shit 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.480 and it's just like a nigga can know so much 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:29.399 if you just shut the fuck up and listen to everything, 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.560 and everybody else is saying, that's some real shit, Like 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:33.760 on God, you just got to shut the fuck up sometimes, 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:38.000 like really, hey, that's some real shit. God if sometimes 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:40.320 it's like you always hear like it's the quietest dude 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:42.480 in the room, it's the smartest of the most dangerous 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.560 because they are soaking everything so much. Yeah, there so much, 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:47.480 seen so much. They already know what you got going 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.919 on and how you moving and stuff like that. And 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:53.439 I know I'm not quiet. I talk a lot, but 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:57.760 I don't talk from a place of like trying to 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:00.919 get you to understand what I'm saying. Like if I 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:02.720 am trying to get you to understand what I'm saying, 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:04.560 I'm trying to get it so we both know where 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.920 we're coming from. You know what I mean. 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