1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: At least. He's The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Williamson on Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson. 4 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: This will be our last show before the Steelers head 5 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: down to Carolina to play the Panthers in their annual 6 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: preseason finale. I say annual, but we didn't do it 7 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: last year. I guess not. Yeah, it's been a tradition 8 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: up in the first time in two years they've been 9 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: the back. Yeah, good stuff. Yeah. I don't know what 10 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: to expect in that game or the final games across 11 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: the league, but I do think it's interesting that there's 12 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: a bigger gap between the final preseason game and the 13 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: start of the regular season than usual. So maybe some 14 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: teams will play their top guys more than we expect. 15 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: But I'm not exactly sure how to guess what we're 16 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: gonna see. Mike Tomlin said today and he must have 17 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: spoken to Matt Rule that the Panthers are expected to 18 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: play most of their starters. I think teams will be 19 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: using that differently given the the you know what, the difference, 20 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: you know, the length of time between the end of 21 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: the season or the end of the preseason and the 22 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: start of the regular season, a few extra days building there. Um, 23 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: it's almost two weeks so Donald hasn't played much or 24 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: at all. Right, So you know, I think, you know, 25 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: especially if you're a younger coach, such as Matt Rule, 26 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: maybe you want to look at some guys you get against, 27 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: some new some new faces, some new players that you 28 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: want to get in there. Obviously you know j C. 29 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: Horne there in the first round cornerback. But tomlin I 30 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: was specifically asked about Naj Harris in this game because 31 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: early in the preseason, before they played their first game, 32 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: he's and he would get four opportunities to you know, 33 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: get ready for the season. They wanted to use all 34 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: four of those. He's not playing him in this game. Good. 35 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: I forget where I said it, probably here that after 36 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: last week's game, I don't think I'd ever play Harris 37 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: in a preseason game the rest of his Steeler career again. Ever, 38 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: again did that, and we've got enough of it. We 39 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: know who you are. We're happy you are not going 40 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: to put pads on before the opener. Ever, again, that 41 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: would be absolutely fine with me. That's how I would 42 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,399 Speaker 1: handle it. Um. I think it's good that the Caroline 43 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: is playing some of their dudes. I was a little 44 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: disappointed Detroit didn't do it more. I mean, are they 45 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: happy with where they are at as an organization? That 46 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: didn't make any sense to me? Kneecapsule right, I mean 47 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: Jared Goff didn't need a repert to I mean, I 48 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, So it's interesting the Steelers will play 49 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: some of their starters. I think you're gonna see if 50 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: I had to guess right now. Of course, they're in 51 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: a different situation. You've got three games under their belt 52 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: where the other teams don't. I think offensively, you'll see 53 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: the offensive line from her to the left side the standers. 54 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: I don't think you'll see the right. I don't think 55 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: you'll see Zach Banner and Tray Turner in this game. Okay, potentially, 56 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: but I think Friar Muth gets more of the snaps. 57 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: He's the young guy. He needs, he needs the reps. Yeah, 58 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: and I think Raider Gentry might have something to fight 59 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: for a little bit. Ye Um. I think you see 60 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: Claypool out there in this game. You didn't see him 61 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: last round. Thank you see Claypool and James Washington. Okay, 62 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 1: not Deonte makes sense? Okay, Yeah, that makes the first 63 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: year guy or second year guy for Claypool. I know 64 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: I can't play him. We can get somebody out there 65 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: and you're pasting something, right. You think Haskin starts that 66 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: that Tomlin said today, Haskins will start Rudolph and Roethlisberger 67 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: will not playing this game. Good. I guess that's close 68 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: to what I was hoping for. I wanted to give 69 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: Haskin sixty minutes. I don't know if he'll see Dobs 70 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: or not, but that's I would imagine Haskins at least 71 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: plays the first three quarters. Yeah, good, good, and it's 72 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: probably the last three quarters that he plays this reason 73 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: you hope. Yeah. The only way that changes is if 74 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: you know there's some kind of could potentially catastrophe, could 75 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: jarge everything. But you know, given you know their druthers, 76 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: I think they the one, two, and three are pretty 77 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: clear in the pecking order. It seems to be, and 78 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: I think we all agree that that's how it should 79 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: be more promising for the future than I thought, you know, 80 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I think everybody would take the situation as 81 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: it is. Um, I'm glad. I'm excited to watch askins, 82 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: so do with deal a long stretch and deal with 83 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: a lot of different situations. And looks like they'll give 84 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: him a decent crew to you know, hang with. And 85 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: I assume who do you think it's been? Lead back 86 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: will be Blage. Blage Thomlas said, Benny Snell is gonna 87 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: get a lot of run in this game. He needs it. 88 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: He needs to get stretched out a little bit because 89 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: he's missed the last two preseason games. So you see 90 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: him a lot. You will see a little bit of 91 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: Belage and then probably some Benny or some Jalen. Makes sense, 92 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: that's the pecking order there, I think defense. Do you 93 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: think Snell was guaranteed a spot? No, I don't either. 94 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: I think he needs to show pretty well on this one. Yeah, yeah, 95 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: I think Blaj is ahead of him, and he deserves 96 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: to be in my opinion, I think he's more talented. 97 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: He's more talented. He's been on the field. Yeah yeah, 98 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: I mean he's been reliable. You can see him lately. 99 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: The bestability is availability and oh, by the way, he's 100 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: better and better, right right, and he's got a higher upside. 101 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: If Bella has been the one who missed most of 102 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: training camp. He'd be on the outside, would be in trouble. 103 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: I'd be in trouble, right, that makes sense. So I 104 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: would think Snell plays a ton. Yeah, I think defensively, Okay, 105 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm a word or two. You know you're not gonna 106 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: see those guys, you know. I think you see like 107 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: Chris Warmley and Isaiah bugs As you're two starting defensive 108 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: tackles in the nickel. I think plenty of guys, the 109 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: louder Milks and Mondo's and all those guys, you know 110 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: they can play. You're not gonna see high Smith. He's 111 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: been he's been nursing a little something. Um doesn't. I 112 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: don't think you see ingram Um. So you get the 113 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: young guys out there, give him a chance to get 114 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: pay half the snaps or something like that. I think 115 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: the interesting thing is what you do? What do you 116 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: do it inside linebacker? That's what I was about to 117 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: say is I think I'd play those two together at 118 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: least a couple series, just the communication getting you know, 119 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: used to it. Um show more than Bush. Of course, 120 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: he's a new guy. But Bush is coming off egether. 121 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: He's gonna play which they gotta play together. They need 122 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: to be a tandem. Somebody was complaining, well, I didn't 123 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: think Bush played very well the last game. Here's the thing. 124 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: When the guy next you doesn't really know what he's doing, 125 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna kind of be looking out for him as well. 126 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: And I think that takes away, you know, makes you 127 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: a half step slow as well. So when you have 128 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: to when you have one guy out there at your 129 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: at that position not knowing what he's doing, necessarily you 130 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: essentially have two. Oh yeah, yeah, I think there's that's 131 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: a good point. Um. Frankly, I didn't think Bush look 132 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: great in his first game back, you know, from a knee. Yeah. 133 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: I mean he's returning from injury. Um, it's been practicing 134 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: in full I mean every step of the way, or 135 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: pretty much since we started camping. Okay, day off here 136 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: and there type of thing, or a couple but not 137 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: a lot. Okay, I mean, I mean he's gonna play 138 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: every snap going forward. I assume I I would play 139 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: those two together at least a couple of series. Um, 140 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: I think that I think you're starting Cornells will be 141 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: Lane and Pierre. Okay, that makes perfect sense. And in 142 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: the safeties will be Norwood and uh, okay, there's no reason. 143 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: Very few starters when you when it's all said and down, Yeah, 144 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's just perfectly fine. I mean we've seen 145 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys. Some of them played more 146 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: than I thought they would in the Hall of Fame game, 147 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: you know, so they've gotten enough reps to know who's who, 148 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: and I'm sure there's a couple of roster spots, not 149 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: many compared to other teams that they still want to 150 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: see things. You know, a guy like Norwood, do you 151 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: want to see a ton from him? I would think 152 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: he plays an awful lot. Yeah. In fact, Tomlin said 153 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: today that they'll they'll bump him down to Nickel a 154 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: little bit, okay, to place in nickel corner. He did 155 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: that at the Oklahoma So that that's not I n 156 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: when they drafted him that could have that was part 157 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: of the appeal was can do a lot of things. Yeah, 158 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: so they're still looking for something there. As I say, so, 159 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,119 Speaker 1: how do you think they handled Nickel for this game? 160 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: Do you think Sutton dresses that's the tough I might 161 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: keep him out. I think I would keep him out, 162 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: and a lot of the other guys do it. But 163 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: the problem is is that Milette's still right yea, um, 164 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, so you know you're gonna play people don't 165 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: know Brown, You're gonna play tray Norwood down there. Doesn't 166 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: leave you much. It doesn't leave you much. I think 167 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: that's one area where it wouldn't surprise me. I know 168 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people. They gotta go out and sign 169 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: somebody else, retreat, you know, do whatever. That's the one 170 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: spot that I think you could look at and say 171 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: they could probably pluck somebody off the waiver wire here. 172 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: Probably these last cuts that at least you can experiment 173 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: with and you know, to give him maybe he's a 174 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: a quicker safety that you know. It doesn't it's not 175 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: the most uncommon position to find. And you're not gonna 176 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: find a six one corner that runs well, you're not 177 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: gonna find an outside corner on the final cuts, but 178 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: you can find a five nine nickel. I wonder I'd 179 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: have to find a list. But there's there's a lot 180 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: of older Malcolm Jenkins types. You know that we're safeties 181 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: turned slots that are savvy that you know would play 182 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: for probably league minimum right now. Then a couple of 183 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: months ago, there was a couple of those guys out 184 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: there that you know, are reliable veterans that have had success, 185 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: that are very much on the back nine. But I'm 186 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: sure that list isn't bare in either. Yeah. I mean 187 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: there's always guys available, and I think if they get 188 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: to that situation, in that spot, um, they can you know, 189 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 1: make a move. And I'm looking here at the list 190 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: on for people don't know though, I mean opening day, 191 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: Sutton's the slot and Pierre's the outside corner, right, Yeah, 192 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's the starters are set. I mean, 193 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: I'm looking at something that would be nice to groom somebody, 194 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: experiment with somebody between now and opening day. And you 195 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: know there's guys like Trey Boston, Kenny Picaro, Yeah, they're 196 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: more safety. Boston's are free, Gary and Conley, d J. Hayden, Yeah, 197 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: they've had injury issues. Prince and Markama he's an outside guy. 198 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: Josh Norman, he's an outside Um. None of those names 199 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: are what I was after. Draker Patrick, yeah, uh, Pierre Desier, 200 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: no Buster screen, I think that ship is same. Jamaar Taylor, 201 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: I don't know him. Richard Robinson, hmm. I was taking 202 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: more of that safety turn corner type of dude Vante 203 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: buzzby a Kim King. There's just not much there, yeah, 204 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: I mean, and some guys become available. And I do 205 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: think we'll see across the league after this weekend, and 206 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: we saw one today with Sony Michelle. I think you'll 207 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: see a lot of those six and seventh round trades 208 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: go down around the league. That's more than usual. Just yeah. 209 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: I think teams are gonna be kind of filling out 210 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: their roster any more. And I think there's some guys 211 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: that the Steelers could wind up treating. That's what it says. 212 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: I wonder if they can break even on that, get 213 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: some veteran corner or something. But move Barry or snell Or. 214 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: To me, Barry's the main guy. He's a starter. I mean, 215 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: he's done it in this league. He was fifteenth in 216 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: the league last year in punting net and gross punting average, 217 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: finished in the top ten and punts down inside the 218 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: opposing twin. Yeah, and he said, well that's okay, he 219 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: missed the first five games he finished. I mean, that's 220 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: what that's what he excels at. It is what he's 221 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: more of a placement guy than a boomer. Yeah, and 222 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: I've noticed he seems to not fall apart but be 223 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: the lesser as the season and whether whether yeah, so 224 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: I think you know, somewhere like Arizona or you know, 225 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: if he were kicking and the South teams are right, Um, 226 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: Tampa base punting situation is not good. I don't pay 227 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: much attention, but I bet ten teams would would think 228 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: he's an upgrade. I actually did look around last nay, 229 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: open to that a little bit. There's some teams out 230 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: there that could definitely use an upgrade on her. I mean, 231 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: if it's only seventh round pick, I mean, that'd be great, 232 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: or you flip that for somebody else, or just add 233 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: it to your mix for you know, adding one more 234 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: thing interesting. It's not making it. I mean his his 235 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: base salaries like nine or something like that going right 236 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: for punters, it's a veter minimum deal. So if you're 237 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: gonna you know, I think that makes him pretty attractive 238 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: to him. I mean, if you're Tampa in particular, you 239 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: know you're not gonna get a good waiver claim. No, 240 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean that's why you 241 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: make that trade because somebody else could claim. And did 242 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: you sit there and say it's gonna be the last pick, 243 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: and we'd love to have that guy. But yeah, I 244 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: don't know the Putner market well enough. But I bet 245 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: there's not thirty two better than Barry. I'm certain of that. Um, 246 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: do you think Snell could get anything in return? Probably not. 247 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: There's running backs out there. It's not great. But then 248 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: he has no recent tape unless he really tears it 249 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: up in this week. Marsh any of the lineman Warmly, 250 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: you might be able to get something for Warmly. Maybe, Uh, 251 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: you might need him, you might need him, right, I 252 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: mean I don't want to. I don't know what's going 253 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: on with to it. Right, I'm not giving James Washington away. 254 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: You'd have to give me a really good deal for him. 255 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: That doesn't make much sense. That doesn't make much sense. 256 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: You just don't have an I mean, people looking at this, 257 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: they need to go sign an offensive lineman. Give me 258 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: a name. Yeah, if it were there twenty teams out 259 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: there looking for offensive line health. Yeah, they don't need 260 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: just another depth guy. I mean, they don't need a 261 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: guy to compete with Coward. They need a starter if 262 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: there's one available, and there's not one available, so that 263 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: that's not happening, and nor is anybody shopping starting left 264 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: tackle or you know, would you consider a veteran center. No, 265 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: I think you just sink and swim with Green and realized, 266 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: you know, he's what you know, he's your guy, and 267 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: Hoss isn't horrible and you still have fitting in your 268 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: back hip. Right, So there's there's there's options there. I'm 269 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: not sure everybody out there is any better than that. 270 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: I looked this up, matt Um. The Steelers could have 271 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: three rookie starters in their lineup on opening day. Okay, 272 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: they haven't had that nine they had. Yeah, Okay, they 273 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: get end up starting that game, I suppose, depending on 274 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: what formation. Yeah, he's better than Hebron. Do you think 275 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: so already? I think so. Abron is easy to dislike, 276 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day is fifty yards 277 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: and I get and I'm not even saying he is better. 278 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: But they can start the gig game in a two 279 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: tight ends. It's definitely can start that game. There's gonna 280 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: be two for sure. He'll end up starting at least 281 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: half the games this year. Yeah, probably true. So they 282 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: haven't had baby by November, all of them that point on, 283 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: they haven't had three rookie starters in in the lineup 284 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: on opening day. I've had it twice in the last 285 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: fifty years. The first one in eight nine. You're not 286 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: cutting the punter, are you. Putters don't count. I get 287 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: a lot of grief about that specialist. There's no such 288 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: thing as a starting punter. They're not starters, right, They're 289 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: not starters. Twenty two starters. Yes, you don't say twenty 290 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: five starters. You don't say starting, starting long snapper. He 291 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: actually plays more than the PUNTERO he gets more snaps. Yeah, 292 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: that doesn't count. Um eighty nine, it was Tim Worley, 293 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: John reinstr and Carnel Lake. But Reinstro only started two 294 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: games that year, so I can't count him as a starter. 295 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: Nineteen seventy one, Uh you know had the two safeties. 296 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: It was Glenn Edwards and uh, we will help you 297 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: on that one. I gotta look at it. I gotta 298 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: call my story upper. I mean, that's a bad team 299 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: that probably was picking early. I'm just guessing Dwight White 300 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: was one. Dwight White was seventy one. Yeah, it was 301 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: Dwight White, Glenn Edwards and uh god, I can't believe 302 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: in blanket on this he's been on our show. Uh, 303 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: Mike Wagner, Okay, started the opener that you started all 304 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: every game. Jack hamm was also in that draft. He 305 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: didn't start the opener, but then started the last four 306 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: thirteen games of the season. So essentially they had were 307 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: rookie defensive starters on on that the beginning of the curtain. 308 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: You know, not the not all of the one are 309 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: the huge names, but that was, you know, a pretty 310 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: good foundation there with four young guys to start building around. Wow, 311 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: now you've got three rookie starters in this lineup on 312 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: one side of the ball. On one side of the ball, 313 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: you're you know, you'd have to Claypool last year on 314 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: that side of the ball. Um. I like your offense 315 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: is getting remarkably younger overnight. Yeah, it really is. I 316 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: mean Ben Aside, you know, I mean we know that 317 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: he's but he's kind of stay you know, he's kind 318 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: of like you much. Rather you either have an order 319 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: offense with guys who are steady veterans and a young quarterback. Yeah, 320 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: where you have the old quarterback with a bunch of 321 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: young guys. It's funny, like think about the Bills A 322 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: Week one opponent. If you look at the first two 323 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: and even three years of Josh Allen's career in the NFL, 324 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: almost everybody on the Bills offense was not we're all veterans. 325 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: You know. They went out and spent like a ton 326 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: of money on eight or nine offensive lineman that one 327 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: year eventually traded for digs. They had John Brown, you know, 328 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: like they did that on purpose. But you know where 329 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: the Steelers can can do the opposite with the veteran quarterback. 330 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: If you think about what they had when Roethlisberger was younger, 331 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: you had that veteran offensive line, you had bet Us 332 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: in the back field, you had to you know, Ward 333 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: and Burs. We're both. Ward was a little bit older, 334 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: but Burrs had been there for a few years, was 335 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: you know established yea, yeah, so they had that older grouping. 336 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: There's smart. I mean, I wonder how many teams do 337 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: that on purpose or how many times we can figure 338 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: out that either you want one or the other to 339 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: be a veteran the quarterback. That's where Jacksonville is gonna 340 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: be in trouble. That's a good point. Yeah, I mean 341 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: it's easy. And the Jets and teams that are total. 342 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: Miami's another one. You know that is difficult. They're all 343 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: going through the growing pains, like the quarterback. You can 344 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: live with the quarterbacks growing pains if everybody else around 345 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: him is kind of that steadying or at least a handful. 346 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: You can deal with the growing cranes of the young 347 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: guys on offense if the quarterback is just steadying force 348 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,479 Speaker 1: like he can be. No, guys, we need to do this, 349 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: or hey guys, we can you know it's it's third 350 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: and eight here, we need to we need to pick 351 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: this up. Get up. I'm gonna hit you with this. 352 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: Even stupid things like hey, I've played in Baltimore and 353 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: bazillion times. You know I know how this goes. Here's 354 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: you know, look for this in this stadium or you know, 355 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: dressing room, A little stupid things like that, just being 356 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: around the block him have an experience. So I know 357 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: this is what we're here to talk about. But I mean, 358 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: even next year, I know it'll be Harris's second year 359 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: in Claypool's third, but they at least have something under 360 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: their belt. There won't be that many rookies to break 361 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: in with a potential rookie or Ben we come back. 362 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking the next quarterback or whoever it is. Yeah, 363 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: So you know, I look at this and and I 364 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: think that's I designed, you know, And I think if 365 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: you look at the last two drafts for the Steelers, 366 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's been rebuilding that offense to a large degree. 367 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: I mean nine years in a row with the first 368 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: round pick on defense. Yeah, you know, and this was 369 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: the first time they've gone four straight offensive picks since. Yeah. 370 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: I knew that, but it was needed. Yeah, you know, 371 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: it was needed. I mean it's not that they've ignored 372 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: that side of the ball, but when you have a 373 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: stud quarterback, you can get away with it. We'll give 374 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: them seconds and thirds, not first New England didn't do 375 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: with Tom Brady and why he wanted out of there. Yeah, 376 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: the ends was wrong, Like you can't you can't continue 377 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: to give me chicken salad and you know, yeah, I 378 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: can't make chicken salad, so expect me to make you know, 379 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: chicken mar salad. It's still gonna happen. No, they didn't 380 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: do much for him. There would be less crash than 381 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: that actually goes saying, I hear you, but no, I 382 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: think the roster was in a really good spot now 383 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: and going forward, and the young guys look like keepers. Yeah, 384 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: they've drafted pretty darn well over the last couple of years. 385 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: I don't think people will realize that enough. Yeah, I 386 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: think Kevin Colbra doesn't get enough credit for that because 387 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: of that. When we talked a little bit about this 388 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: on on Monday. Are the Steelers flying under the radar 389 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: here as a sneaky good team this year? That's over 390 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: under still eight and a half, that's too low. It's funny. 391 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: We are at a conversation on my podcast today about 392 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 1: I always lump in the the truly established coaches, you know, 393 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: the Carols and Belichicks and reads, and I mentioned we 394 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: were talking about the Saints because Jamis Winston just got 395 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: annointed the starter basically today and kind of thinking this 396 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: team might be better than I thought, Like, I don't 397 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: think they're a contender New Orleans I'm talking about, and 398 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: they aren't very deep. They're going through tough times. But 399 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: it sure reminds me of Harbaugh's year when he went 400 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: from Flacco to Lamar the Patriots last year when they 401 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: just got guided, you know, by injuries and covid Steelers 402 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: without Bend two years ago. You know that Peyton with 403 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: this makeshift, you know, version of rebuild. I bet they 404 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: still win seven or eight. I feel better that situation 405 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: since they have named Winston the starter. I thought he 406 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: was gonna mess around with Taysom Hill there and that, 407 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: especially after Michael Thomas got hurt. I thought they would 408 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: try to raven it up. You know, but Winston looks good. 409 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: It's a tough way to win. I mean, that's a 410 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: good defense, it's a good offensive line. There's so many receivers, 411 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: you know. But you know, but my point is, I 412 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: think that the Tomlin and He's really established coaches are 413 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: hard to hard to get down, you know what I mean. 414 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: You know that because back to what we just talked about, 415 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: they know how to win. They know how to win. 416 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: They know what Funny Dwayne Haskins mentioned something today, Um 417 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: we were talking to it. I can't imagine what he thinks. 418 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: He was talking about how he was asked the difference 419 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: in game prep between here and Washington. He said, here, 420 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: when I walk in to the Monday and we're getting 421 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: ready to we're gonna start game planning. Mike Tomlin does 422 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: a good good job of telling you, Okay, here's the 423 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: who's here the defensive coordinator you're gonna be facing, here's 424 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: the defensive backs coach you're gonna be you know, playing, 425 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: Here's what they like to do? Yeah right, those kind 426 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: of things. Apparently they didn't do that in Washington. I 427 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: guess that doesn't shock me. I mean, that's why I'm saying. 428 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure I'd love to hear it. Has I can 429 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: remember that, like that was one of the things. Like 430 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: my high school basketball coach an outstanding job. Like we 431 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: had a little ship for the opponent. We had a 432 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: sheet before before every game, like two days before the game. 433 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: This guy's you know, likes to go to his left 434 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: keep this guy you know that kind of just little 435 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: things like that that that help you if you're paying attention, 436 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: know what the hell is going on, like knowing who 437 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: they like. Okay, we're playing the Rams this weekend. I know, 438 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: I gotta watch out for Aaron Donald and we don't 439 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: want to throw to that side of the field. Who's 440 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, what's he like to do? What's he 441 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: like that? What blitz is? What's his go to blitz 442 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: on third down? Exactly exactly? You know. I mean, like 443 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: we had the Litle League World Series on here, and 444 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm sure when the Pirates go to Houston, they 445 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: have a detailed scouting port on every picture and every 446 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: in the pictures, I have one on every hitter. You know, 447 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: don't throw them high. Heat knocks it out of the park, 448 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: you know. Of course for every series, you get refreshed 449 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: right before. But what people don't realize is, yes, coaches 450 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: coach against players. Of course, Baron Donald's coming to town. 451 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: We need the game plan around him, of course, But 452 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: there aren't a lot of those, you know. I mean, 453 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: every team's got a star too, But really, coaches coach 454 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: against coaches. You know that they're more worried about the 455 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: defense the d C than they are the second corner. 456 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: You know, they really learn each other's tendencies. And that's 457 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: why divisional games are so great. One of the things 458 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: that I always said when when I'm coaching baseball, Um, 459 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: I don't have to be the smartest coach in the world. 460 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: I just have to be smarter than the guy and 461 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: the other dugout right, like like I don't have to 462 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: be sparking in sit over here or pick one, Joe Torry, whoever. 463 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna be smarter than the guy on the other 464 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: side of the field. When the great game, when the 465 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: Great Whites coming after us, I just have to outswim you. 466 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: Station is through the woods, right, whoever the slower the 467 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: two of us is dinner, right, I don't have to 468 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: be bold. Yeah, it's have to be faster than you, 469 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: you know, right, And so I think there's some of 470 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: that involved here as well. So when you're talking about well, 471 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlins this in terms of the yeah, well he 472 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: doesn't coach against those other those other guys every week, no, 473 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: of course not, of course not right, You're still coaching, 474 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: isn't against Zach Taylor on a regular basis? And how 475 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: well he know the coaches he does see regularly, like 476 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure Raven Steelers know each other like the back 477 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: of their hands. For much surprises there of course, right, Yeah, 478 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean while they installed the new Blitz. Yeah, okay, 479 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: I still know what his tendencies are. I mean I 480 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: still know is he's super aggressive on first and ten 481 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: or third and eight or you know, they're still a 482 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: right without questions. But I think it was fascinating today 483 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: that that Haskin said that because I couldn't believe that 484 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 1: every NFL team doesn't do that, right, I mean, it's 485 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: not even that important in the preseason. He hasn't even 486 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: seen a regular season game here, you know, I wonder 487 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: if he isn't even blown away more like, Wow, they 488 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: really prepare you well here. It's been nice to have 489 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: done that two years in the last two years, you know, right. Yeah, 490 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: And I wonder if like Donald and some of these 491 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: other people were thinking the same thing, you know, like, man, 492 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: I didn't realize how rough we had it there because 493 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: we're not doing things right. You know, I don't know 494 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: any different, you know, right, Yeah, that's the whole thing 495 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: when you you know, when you you're with one franchise, 496 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: you don't necessarily know what it's like on the outside. 497 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: Or I think that's a little bit of the the Aaron 498 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: Rodgers thing too, like do we know we're smart here? 499 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: You know, like we haven't gotten many free agents over 500 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: the years, you know, we don't really have an owner 501 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: like I wouldn't mind seeing somewhere else. Yeah, I think 502 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: there's something to that as well. But uh yeah, a 503 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: lot going on for sure. Um. So the Steelers play 504 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: in Carolina, Um I think that's Do you think it'll 505 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: be I don't want to say, I really think that 506 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: the league is not put together a general blueprint for 507 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: how to handle three preseason games, a little bit of 508 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: a gap seventeen regular season games. The Steelers could kind 509 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: of use their original blueprint next year. They'll have to 510 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: go back to the drawing board a little bit. But 511 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: do you expect this to be a lot like what 512 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: where you've become accustomed to being the fourth preseason game, 513 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: or maybe a little more rebbed up than that. Fourth 514 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: preseason games are pretty rough? Yeah, I think because of 515 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: the way that the league did it this year, because 516 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: of where Labor Day fell, then when they don't want 517 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: to open the Labor Day weekend right right, So I 518 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: don't know if this is gonna be you know, always 519 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: like this where they have twelve days off between the 520 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: start of the regular season or not. Um. But it's 521 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: just seeing time though and how they handle that practice period. 522 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: And I think this gap is going to be a 523 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: little more noteworthy than we think. You've seen a lot 524 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: more teams scrimmaging against other teams this year, but I 525 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: don't know if that's the way to go either, because 526 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 1: one of the big things you see out of those 527 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: is constant fights and things of that nature. I would 528 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: say I think they almost can be two physical, but 529 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: I think they're more. If Tomlin or other head coaches 530 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: were sitting here, it wouldn't shock me if they said 531 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: they're more valuable than a preseason game. They might. It's 532 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: just good for situational Yeah, you can set the situations 533 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: up exactly how you want them to be. Ten third 534 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: nights in a row. You know, you don't know if 535 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna get them in games, you know what I mean. 536 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: And and even I don't know if you're watching h 537 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: hard knocks, but Dallas did one with the Rams, and 538 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald was out there, you know, like he actually 539 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: is practicing against good players. You know, there were some 540 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: good good versus good type of things, and somebody took 541 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: a cheap John, I'm gonna gotta fight, like you said, 542 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: you know, that's what happens, what often happens in those 543 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: in those things. I saw a thing on Pro Football Talk. 544 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: League still not willing to crack down on on scrimmage fights. 545 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: How the hell would they do that? Do that? No, 546 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: by the way, you don't get suspended for doing bad 547 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: things in those fights, and those in fact, and I 548 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: think it was I think it was Matthew Stafford who 549 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: who actually said this is only natural, especially you know, 550 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: on like special teams and things of that nature, because 551 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: you had a bunch of guys out there, you got 552 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: twenty two guys on the field in those situations who 553 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: are fighting for like three open roster spots. They lose, 554 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: they got nothing to lose. And that's what worries me. 555 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: Ask you about this last preseason game too, because there's 556 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: gonna be a couple of renegades out there saying I 557 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: gotta show up. Yeah, I got a bad ugly Yeah. 558 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: No publicities, bad publicity. I'm gonna do something in this game. Yeah. 559 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: So that's certainly a factor you mentioned Stafford. Was the 560 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: Lions coming here a few years ago. The last joint 561 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: practice the Steelers did, they did one, They did the 562 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: Lions the one year, and they did the Bills, and 563 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: I can't remember which order, but they have been a 564 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: couple of years, and I think it was the Bills 565 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: first and then the Lions, and Jim calledwell, Uh, the 566 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: Steelers are gonna go to Detroit the next year. And 567 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: Jim called well got fired because called well and Tom 568 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: and I have a good relationship. That's usually they were 569 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: on the coach in in Tampa, right, so usually the 570 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: head coaches are buds. 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