WEBVTT - Emily Blunt

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to River Cafe Table four, a production of iHeartRadio

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<v Speaker 1>and Adami Studios.

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<v Speaker 2>This is River Cafe Table four with me Ruthie Rogers.

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<v Speaker 2>On River Cafe Table four, I talk to friends who

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<v Speaker 2>know the River Cafe well about food, the food they cook,

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<v Speaker 2>the food they eat, the food of their memories.

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<v Speaker 3>Pennae with zucchini and lemon zest Serve six.

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<v Speaker 2>This week I have wonderful, beautiful, brilliant, few adjectives emily plant.

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<v Speaker 3>One kilo medium zucchini, yellow, green or ridged.

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<v Speaker 2>In each episode, my guest reads a recipe they have

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<v Speaker 2>chosen from one of our cookbooks.

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<v Speaker 3>Two tablespoons extra virgin olive oil, two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 3>grams unsalted butter, one garlic clove, peeled and thinly sliced,

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred and fifty grams penne. One bunch fresh mint leaves,

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<v Speaker 3>roughly torn, two lemons, preferably Amalfi. Wash and trim the

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<v Speaker 3>zucchini and cut into small pieces, and in a large saucepan,

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<v Speaker 3>heat the olive oil with one hundred grams of the butter.

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<v Speaker 3>Add the zucchini and stir season well. Adding the garlic.

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<v Speaker 3>Cook gently, stirring from time to time for twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Bring a pot of salted water to the boil, Add

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<v Speaker 3>the penne to the water, and cook ten minutes or

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<v Speaker 3>until al dente. Drain and add the zucchini, Add the

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<v Speaker 3>remaining butter and the mint leaves. Mix thoroughly great, lemon

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<v Speaker 3>zest on top.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Emily. Here we are in the River Cafe,

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<v Speaker 2>late afternoon, looking at the restaurant, getting ready actually for

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<v Speaker 2>the evening service.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't wait.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so happy that you chose this recipe because it

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<v Speaker 2>is one of my favorites. Actually, I say that most

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<v Speaker 2>times that the recipe is my favorite, but this one is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was wondering why this recipe do you cook it?

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, it just has three of my favorite things in it,

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<v Speaker 3>so any I just wanted to pick one of your

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<v Speaker 3>pasta dishes because it is my ultimate favorite thing and

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<v Speaker 3>what I crave most.

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<v Speaker 2>And did you grow up eating pasta? Yes, the food child, but.

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<v Speaker 3>It was more like spaghetti, you know my mom. My

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<v Speaker 3>mom did tell me, well, God bless her. She had

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<v Speaker 3>four kids, and I'm sure we were all wanting different things,

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<v Speaker 3>and she just had so many kids in so little

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<v Speaker 3>time that very often she'd be like you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>get what you get and you don't get upset. But

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<v Speaker 3>I do have this lasting memory of her spaghetti bolonnaise

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<v Speaker 3>and then always wanting just pasta with butter and cheese

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<v Speaker 3>as well. So she would always let us have the

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<v Speaker 3>pasta with the butter and cheese if we had the

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<v Speaker 3>bolonnaise first. And I find myself doing it to my kids,

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<v Speaker 3>I will bribe them. They've got to have the sauce

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<v Speaker 3>pasta and then they can have just the butter and

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<v Speaker 3>che cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>And when kids come to the River Cafe for lunch families,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, two pasta, butter and cheese. But in fact

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<v Speaker 2>it is really delici.

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<v Speaker 3>It's actually delicious. No, I have to be careble not

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<v Speaker 3>to shovel it into my mouth as I'm serving it

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<v Speaker 3>to them. They love lasagna, they love I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 3>always made them all kinds of pasta, sauces, and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>sneak all kinds of things in there and try and

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<v Speaker 3>get it past them. My oldest one will try most things, steak, chicken.

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<v Speaker 3>Neither of them want the fish apart from sushi fish.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny about yeah, I know, my stepson said fish.

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<v Speaker 2>It was about thirty I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think it's so weird. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>Fish maybe where they look, or maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>The b they look. To be honest, I think it

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<v Speaker 3>is more the way they look. They kind of envision

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<v Speaker 3>what they look and it kind of roastes them out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were once Increase. It was about four and

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<v Speaker 2>it was fishing. It'd stand there all day. We made

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<v Speaker 2>with this little fishing rod in the harbor, and in

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<v Speaker 2>the end, Richard, my husband, actually went to the market

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<v Speaker 2>and bought a fish and we all dove put the

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<v Speaker 2>fish on the hook, and then I think he never

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<v Speaker 2>ate a fish again for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a fishing experience in Martha's Vineyard, where we

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<v Speaker 3>liked to go every summer because John's from Boston and

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<v Speaker 3>his whole family is sort of around there, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>a magical place. Mouths beautiful, absolutely love it's so bizarre

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<v Speaker 3>and bohemian special. But we took the kids fishing and

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<v Speaker 3>Hazel pulled in a fish and it flopped around on

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<v Speaker 3>the deck and she screamed. She never recovered. She was like,

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<v Speaker 3>it's bleeding, Like it was awful.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very real. So did they cook with you? Did

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<v Speaker 2>they come in there? They do?

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<v Speaker 3>I make this chicken noodle soup that they really love.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you make that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I actually used ginger in it, and it has

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<v Speaker 3>this kind of richness to it. Either I'll use leftover

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<v Speaker 3>roast chicken, or I'll sort of sear her or some

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<v Speaker 3>chicken thigh. I usually like using chicken thighs bonus skinless.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like a dream on there. You can kind of

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<v Speaker 3>put them in thing and it's got carrots and celery

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<v Speaker 3>and onions and beautiful chicken stock, wine and those egg noodles,

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<v Speaker 3>and they just love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I always say you should always have chicken soup around.

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<v Speaker 2>I always have a part of chicken soup because there

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<v Speaker 2>is something so sustaining about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's very Moorish. It was one of the first

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<v Speaker 3>things I made for John. I think the.

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<v Speaker 2>Chicken soup. I think it's always interested the food we

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<v Speaker 2>cook for an occasion. You know, Yes, I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to want to do a book called What to Cook

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<v Speaker 2>When when you're depressed, when you're broke, when you want

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<v Speaker 2>us to do somebody when you don't have somebody important

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<v Speaker 2>coming to dinner? Did you think about that when you

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<v Speaker 2>were cooking for him?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's funny, I guess they just made that. I

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<v Speaker 3>knew he would love, like I mean a roast chicken.

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<v Speaker 3>Who doesn't love roast chicken. And the roast chicken I

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<v Speaker 3>love is Ina Garten's roast chicken. It's called it her

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<v Speaker 3>engagement chicken because I think when people make it for people,

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<v Speaker 3>they get engaged or something. Lemon, garlic, onions up the chicken, thyme,

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<v Speaker 3>salt and pepper, all that, and you scatter onions around

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<v Speaker 3>the chicken, but you pack them in really tight into

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<v Speaker 3>the tray and then you roast them really high about

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<v Speaker 3>an hour and twenty minutes and they're done and they're perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when you take the chickens out, you then

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<v Speaker 3>kind of cute in some wine and some butter and

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<v Speaker 3>into that onion eque garlicy mixture. Oh my gods, divine,

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<v Speaker 3>it's really sticky and yummy, and then they fell in love.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it, that's all it took.

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<v Speaker 2>But were you going out tell me more about your

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<v Speaker 2>did you rather work or? She had four kids and

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<v Speaker 2>so her cooking was well.

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<v Speaker 3>So she was an actress when Fie and I were

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<v Speaker 3>very little, and then she just had too many kids.

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<v Speaker 3>She had two more after me and Fee and then

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<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, really felt she needed to be

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<v Speaker 3>home with us. I don't know if she loved cooking

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<v Speaker 3>because it was more of a chore for her with kids,

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<v Speaker 3>being like, I don't like risotto. I don't you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's probably like a bit joyless at times.

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<v Speaker 2>Did she teach you how to do her recipes?

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<v Speaker 3>She did, but she sort of is a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a just bung it all in So was it very British?

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<v Speaker 3>They're very British in general. And then definitely every Sunday

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<v Speaker 3>was the religion of the Sunday roast.

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<v Speaker 2>What was that? As an American, I'm really intrigued by

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<v Speaker 2>the whole British Sunday lunch.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's like Christmas Dinner, Thanksgiving. Yeah, Sunday, Every Sunday

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<v Speaker 3>we would either have roast beef, roast lamb, roast chicken,

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<v Speaker 3>or roast pork. It was one of those. Always a roast,

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<v Speaker 3>always a roast, and then we would have roast potatoes

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<v Speaker 3>with the beef. You'd have Yorkshire puddings, we'd have everything.

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<v Speaker 3>We'd have the bread, sauce, we'd have vegetables, we'd have gravy.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I just have this lasting memory in my

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<v Speaker 3>dad's plate, just like swimming in Great swimming In.

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<v Speaker 4>Emily talked about Sunday roast when she was a child.

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<v Speaker 4>So when we're roasting meat here, we like to sear

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<v Speaker 4>the meat and get a good color on all sides.

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<v Speaker 4>And then often we'll put it into the wood oven

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<v Speaker 4>and get a dry heat into it to start the

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<v Speaker 4>cooking process. And then maybe after ten or fifteen minutes,

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<v Speaker 4>we can go in with hard herb, whether it's rosemary,

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<v Speaker 4>sage bay, and if it wants a splash of wine

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<v Speaker 4>or water. Now this is the same weather we're making

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<v Speaker 4>slow roasted veal, spatchcock chickens, pot roasted beef, Philip. This

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<v Speaker 4>is the way that we like to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you're growing up with this really important food

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<v Speaker 2>tradition in your house of sitting down to dinner that

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<v Speaker 2>your mother goes, what age did you kind of leave?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you go to university here and stay home or

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<v Speaker 2>did you go abroad?

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<v Speaker 3>Or so I am the only person in my family

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<v Speaker 3>who didn't go to university because when I was about seventeen,

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<v Speaker 3>I did this play with my school and an agent

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<v Speaker 3>came to see the play and he said, I think

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<v Speaker 3>you're really good. You should do this. And I really

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<v Speaker 3>had a cavalier attitude towards it because I was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not worrying. I wasn't really thinking about being an actress.

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<v Speaker 3>I was sort of wanting to go to university and

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<v Speaker 3>do languages like I always loved Spanish and French and

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<v Speaker 3>my mum's an amazing linguist and yeah, brilliant British speaks

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<v Speaker 3>like three languages. And so I was sort of inspired

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<v Speaker 3>by that and wanted to do that. And then he said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>why don't you give it a go? And I'd also

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<v Speaker 3>seen from my mother how tough the industry was, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't have a rose tinted gaze towards it. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>seen how damaging it can be. It's so personal, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, okay, we I'll give it a go,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't really know if I want to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe I was talking like that now, because

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<v Speaker 3>I truly am madly in love with it. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>I tried it. I auditioned. I got my first job

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<v Speaker 3>when I was eighteen, once I was out of school,

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<v Speaker 3>which was a play with Dane Judy Dench and she

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<v Speaker 3>was just divine to me, and so Peter Hall directed it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it was just mad. I was just such

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<v Speaker 3>a love the royal family.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, no twenty years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's based on the Barrymores. The fictional family is

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<v Speaker 3>called the Cavendishes. And yeah, so quite soon after that,

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<v Speaker 3>around eighteen nineteen, I got my own place. I just

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<v Speaker 3>cut Yeah, I got my own place in Parsons Green

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<v Speaker 3>and I was so green. I mean I just like

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<v Speaker 3>went and looked at it, and I just liked the

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<v Speaker 3>look of the colors on the walls. So I just

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<v Speaker 3>went with it. And my mom came over and she

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<v Speaker 3>was like, is there any heating in here? And I

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<v Speaker 3>realized there was no central heating in the apartment, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, I just got a case. The

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<v Speaker 3>walls were really cool, because I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think that's a good criteria.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a happy place. It just was freezing and

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<v Speaker 3>that's very young ETI yeah, it was young.

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<v Speaker 2>And then did you cook at all? Did you still

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<v Speaker 2>want to eat? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I do. Remember before I did the play.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you're going to be horrified to hear this,

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<v Speaker 3>because I haven't had one since I used to go

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<v Speaker 3>every night to Burger King and get a double cheeseburger

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<v Speaker 3>before I went on stage. I don't know how I

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<v Speaker 3>went on stage to two hours after that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to ask you, you know, because it

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<v Speaker 2>is intriguing. You know, we all think about how we

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<v Speaker 2>work and how we eat and when we when we work,

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<v Speaker 2>and how we sort of fit all that in, and

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<v Speaker 2>so if you are in the theater you weren't there,

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<v Speaker 2>would you still do that now that you would eat

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<v Speaker 2>before going on stage?

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<v Speaker 3>She would like, I'm someone who needs to eat all day.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not someone who can have three meals a day.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I'm usually hungry most of the time,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I tried to do sort of four to

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<v Speaker 3>five smaller meals throughout the day. But yeah, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>eat a double cheeseburger with fries now and not want

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<v Speaker 3>to go and have a nap.

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<v Speaker 2>But you would eat.

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<v Speaker 3>I was eighteen, so I was like, it's fine. So

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<v Speaker 3>I would get to the theater around I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess we would go on at seven thirty, so

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<v Speaker 3>I would eat at like six fifteen, and just disgusting

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<v Speaker 3>every night. Every night, I was obsessed with it. It

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<v Speaker 3>was my favorite thing. I get the Tube Incadilly Circus.

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<v Speaker 3>I go to Burger King and go straight to the theater.

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<v Speaker 3>I probably stank of burgers and Judy Dench noticed that

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<v Speaker 3>you were smelling of a Burger King. Burger so lovely here,

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<v Speaker 3>Like every night after the show, she would bring me

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<v Speaker 3>into her dressing room and there'd be so many like

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<v Speaker 3>famous people in there, and I was like, what, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I was a kid. I mean it was amazing. And

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<v Speaker 3>Peter Bowls was in it. Do you know him?

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<v Speaker 2>I remember? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And he took me to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Ivy for the first Yeah, yeah, do you remember that?

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<v Speaker 3>I do? I remember it. I mean I'd never been

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<v Speaker 3>to a restaurant like that before. It was mad.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you go to restaurants with your parents?

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<v Speaker 3>If I remember on a Friday night we would go

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<v Speaker 3>for a Chinese Great Lehampton and Crispy Duck pancakes, And

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<v Speaker 3>I remember just being obsessed with that kind of thing

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<v Speaker 3>growing up. But I feel it's a more common thing

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<v Speaker 3>for people to take their kids out to cafes and

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<v Speaker 3>restaurants now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think that you know, as you say,

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<v Speaker 2>can be the pane butter and cheese, but sometimes, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was once amazed we had an eight year old

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<v Speaker 2>who ordered a grouse. No, they were Italian, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh see, that's incredible. It was even Stanley and Fee

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<v Speaker 3>like Stanley who is you know, fist of food. Even

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<v Speaker 3>his little kids, like they have about five things they

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<v Speaker 3>really love and he's like, come on, like I made

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<v Speaker 3>a lasagna for my kids yesterday and Hazel loves it

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<v Speaker 3>and everything. But Violet, my little one who's for she

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<v Speaker 3>was really like, no, I just want the plane lasagna.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want blanket pasta, she calls it. But I said,

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<v Speaker 3>come on, you got to try it and then I'll

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<v Speaker 3>give you the blanket pasta. And then she looks at it.

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<v Speaker 3>She goes, it looks like a cake. I said, there

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<v Speaker 3>you go, and then she loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. What about when you leave them and you go

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<v Speaker 2>to do a film.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, normally they're with me when I work, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>hard during school time. And now they're both in school.

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<v Speaker 3>Like when they were little, like it kind of dragged

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<v Speaker 3>them around anyway, but now they kind of have to

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<v Speaker 3>be a bit more stable. So they're going to stay

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<v Speaker 3>in London as school. And I'm doing this six part

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<v Speaker 3>Western which I'm completely thrilled by. It's heart racing piece

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<v Speaker 3>it's sort of as violent as it is witty. It's real.

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<v Speaker 3>It's written by Hugo Blick, and it was brought to

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<v Speaker 3>me about two years ago. We got delayed because of COVID,

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<v Speaker 3>but I truly read the first page and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is about the first case.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so dynamic and arresting and beautiful. You just know

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<v Speaker 3>the writing. It's all about the writing for me. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just realizing you just cannot make a good movie

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<v Speaker 3>out of a bad script. And there's conflict and intrigue

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<v Speaker 3>and something different. I'm in.

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<v Speaker 2>Are there other women?

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<v Speaker 3>There's a couple of other really cool female parts. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of boys. It's like a very but it's

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<v Speaker 3>partly because she is presented as this aristocratic woman is

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<v Speaker 3>a real fish out of water in this brutal, masculine

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<v Speaker 3>world in eighteen ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you eat on the film set? They do good

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<v Speaker 2>food or is it?

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<v Speaker 3>It depends where you are, And I've been someplace it's

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<v Speaker 3>not very good. But we're in Spain, so maybe they might.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they might do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I just try and make my own thing, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'll bring my crop part and whip something up during

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<v Speaker 3>the day, so I've got something waiting for me when

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<v Speaker 3>I get home. But I think when I'm working, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't tend to eat sort of pasta and bread because

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<v Speaker 3>it just makes me so sluggish. So I'm obsessed with rice.

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<v Speaker 2>Right about rice?

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<v Speaker 3>It is one of my favorite things.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, what do you love about rice?

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<v Speaker 3>I love the taste of it. I love that you

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<v Speaker 3>can put anything with it. I love all kinds of rice.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that you can soak it in stut like

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<v Speaker 3>I have this meso soaked black rice that this chef

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<v Speaker 3>I know does for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand that Emily loves rice. So here at the restaurant,

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<v Speaker 4>we use two different risotto rices. One is carnioli, the

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<v Speaker 4>other is violona nano rice. The cornorroli we generally use

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<v Speaker 4>with chicken stock, and this can go with a variety

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<v Speaker 4>of things mushrooms, artochokes, greens, and then the smaller, fatter grain,

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<v Speaker 4>which is the violano nano rice, we use with fish stocks.

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<v Speaker 2>When I interviewed Michael Kane, he said that he'd never

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<v Speaker 2>done a deal for a movie that was in any

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<v Speaker 2>place other than a restaurant. Everything that was decided was

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<v Speaker 2>decided in his day, you went to the IVY or

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<v Speaker 2>two like with your age, with your agent, with the producer.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody's trying to convince you to be in a movie,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was done. And I always think it's interesting

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<v Speaker 2>how people going back to restaurants, how people use restaurants.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people use it to you announce that they want

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<v Speaker 2>a divorce, so they want to fire someone. You can

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<v Speaker 2>do a very private thing in a public space.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know, I do see what you're saying about

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<v Speaker 3>that people do use restaurants. I think for me in Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 3>like everyone meets in restaurants. Like I've met cast members

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<v Speaker 3>for the first time in a restaurant. I've met producers, directors.

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<v Speaker 3>That's normally how I've met people. It's only recently sort

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<v Speaker 3>of over zoom or a phone call that it's very

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<v Speaker 3>new to me because I do need to sit with

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<v Speaker 3>someone and get a sense of them and get a

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<v Speaker 3>sense of the vibe and whether our energy is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be good, whether it's going to be copa setic

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<v Speaker 3>and a cool experience. And I'm always interested what people

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<v Speaker 3>eat and what they want or what they drink, like

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<v Speaker 3>if they'll have a glass of wine, yeah, if they

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<v Speaker 3>won't like, so if it's an evening sit down, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>definitely have a drink, you know, if it's someone I've

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<v Speaker 3>never met before, because it's a bit nerve wracking as well.

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<v Speaker 3>But a restaurant it is that safe, atmospheric, buzzy place

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<v Speaker 3>where if there's a lull income conversation, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 3>There's always stuff around you that you can feed off.

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<v Speaker 2>You know who there was somebody I was swill to

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<v Speaker 2>or that said he absolutely did not like going into

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<v Speaker 2>a quiet restaurant. No, that you need that safety, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's why people do things. It might be

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<v Speaker 2>like firing somebody or breaking up because you can't throw

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<v Speaker 2>a frying pan the sentence, you know, really there's a

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<v Speaker 2>kind of behavior. But then also I think that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people do go for a first date in

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<v Speaker 2>the restaurant because it does tell you something, doesn't It

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<v Speaker 2>how the person needs, how they treat the waiter, whether

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<v Speaker 2>they say thank you when they buat something down. It's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of does.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very true. And I'm always aware of how people

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<v Speaker 3>are with because I feel sometimes everyone's nice to me,

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<v Speaker 3>but I always watch how people are with the pas

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<v Speaker 3>on set and how are you with people working in

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<v Speaker 3>a restaurant, like I want to get a real sense

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<v Speaker 3>of who people are is how they are with everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever work in a restaurant? No?

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<v Speaker 3>But I did work in a catering company. This amazing

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<v Speaker 3>friend of my mother's alwageous catering company that she does,

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<v Speaker 3>and she would I am Fee and I to be

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<v Speaker 3>her waitresses. Really yeah, it was fun actually because the

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<v Speaker 3>food was so good. She'd feed us like extraordinary food.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have this lasting memory of a quail leg

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<v Speaker 3>cannope with hollandaise over it and on this little krusty Christina.

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<v Speaker 3>Fee and I used to just steal them. We used

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<v Speaker 3>to like pop them like pills. I mean, we loved them.

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<v Speaker 3>But I have that memory of the quail leg.

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<v Speaker 2>It is interesting just this conversation is about memory. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you might now remember so many things about that experience,

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<v Speaker 2>but the quails comes right.

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<v Speaker 3>Fact, I do remember turning up one time and I

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<v Speaker 3>was wearing these really ugly sandals and I had a

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<v Speaker 3>chipped blue nail polish. I was like sixteen, and she

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<v Speaker 3>thought I looked so unpresentable. I had to wash dishes

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<v Speaker 3>all night. She was like the best place for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Did that? And I was like, and what about the

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<v Speaker 2>politics of food, you think about sustainability or about giving

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<v Speaker 2>your kids organic food or arms. Martha's Vineyard has so

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<v Speaker 2>many good farms.

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<v Speaker 3>Watch is fun. Yes, they have the most beautiful produce

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<v Speaker 3>and eggs and cheese. And in Brooklyn it's harder. I

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<v Speaker 3>find the produce is so much better in the UK.

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<v Speaker 2>Better here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's so real, Like the carrots are all wonky,

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<v Speaker 3>they taste right, like the strawberries, the berries. Everything is

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<v Speaker 3>just doesn't taste manufactured. And I think sometimes it's not

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<v Speaker 3>the same. Being in the UK has been a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a wake up call for me of how much

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<v Speaker 3>better I feel the produce is here.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think again, I think that seems to be

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<v Speaker 2>something that we're all thinking about our kids, aren't we think?

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that generation is really interesting, especially as

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<v Speaker 2>they get older. What they're eating. Yes, I mean when

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<v Speaker 2>I have dinner when my grandchildren are older. Once a vegan,

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<v Speaker 2>one's a vegetarian, one's gluten free. That's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the politics of food are consistent with the

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<v Speaker 2>politics of everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, do you feel at the restaurant you have to

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<v Speaker 3>adapt for people in that way?

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<v Speaker 2>We're really lucky to be a time because we are

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<v Speaker 2>so focused on vegetables. Yes, so a vegan and the egg,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, tag your telly. But they can have a

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<v Speaker 2>spaghetti with peas. We do something called farinata. Have you

0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:10.320
<v Speaker 2>ever had chippea flower? And so they don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>have gluten and you know, you can have a whole meal.

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<v Speaker 3>And I get so excited to look at your menu

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<v Speaker 3>and just see what's changed, and it changes all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just so exciting. So if you were thinking about comfort,

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<v Speaker 2>do you have a comfort food that this could be anything?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it could be something that you reach for

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<v Speaker 2>when you're feeling back to what to eat, when, what

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<v Speaker 2>to cook? When?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, I'll comfort Like for me, one of my

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<v Speaker 3>favorite things is a toasted bagel with tons of butter

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<v Speaker 3>and marmite. It's my favorite thing that I really think heaven.

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<v Speaker 3>But I will say the other thing if I were to,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's pasta that I create, is a couch pass barchi.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so simple and it's just one of my favorite things.

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<v Speaker 3>And the first time I had it was in Rome.

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<v Speaker 3>I was shooting a TV series in Rome that was

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<v Speaker 3>not a very good and I was living alone in Rome,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like twenty years old, lived there for

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<v Speaker 3>three months. Bachi the Armorami Barchie. It was near Campeldi Fiori,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'd go to all of these little local places,

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<v Speaker 3>and I noticed that don't go to the tourist places.

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember this one Italian rest where all the

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<v Speaker 3>locals went. The vat of wine was just put on

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<v Speaker 3>the table. I don't know what wine it was, it

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<v Speaker 3>didn't matter. And you get what you get and they

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<v Speaker 3>bring you a steak or pasta whatever they have, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was just heaven to eat like that. There's simplicity

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<v Speaker 3>of it. And I remember going and having couchy to

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<v Speaker 3>perpet and people saying this. I think they called it

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<v Speaker 3>like the peasant pasta or something. It was sort of

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<v Speaker 3>known as being a really sort of low brow pastor.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was like, but it's a passive.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a brilliant for the food because it's

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<v Speaker 2>the cheese actually pasta, butter and cheese.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just got a lot of pep, a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of but you just want to eat.

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<v Speaker 2>Like my children maybe maybe loved food is food memories

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<v Speaker 2>of childhood and comfort.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Emie, Thank you so much, Jerthy Leon, thank you,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>To visit the online shop of the River Cafe, go

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<v Speaker 2>to shop the River Cafe dot co dot uk.

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