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Speaker 1: June twenty third of the Year of Our Lord, twenty

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Speaker 1: Everyone in our world is talking about Arch manning to Texas,

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Speaker 1: and we'll break that down from pretty much every angle

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Speaker 1: imaginable Tonight. Got a lot of things to say about that.

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Speaker 1: a lot to say about that. Bold predictions are back tonight,

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Speaker 1: chapter nineteen. We're also going to do reasonable expectations. Both

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Speaker 1: I've got an interesting little question that one of you

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Speaker 1: What a day around here. There is nothing in our

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Speaker 1: world like a true, major breaking news day, and today

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Speaker 1: was one of those days. I know that this show

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Speaker 1: us delivering the best show possible. So hey, for about

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Speaker 1: we do that. Let's start with obviously the big news

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Speaker 1: Arch Manning commits to the University of Texas today. We've

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Speaker 1: got a bunch of different ways we can go with this.

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Speaker 1: The first question on everyone's mind. I did a bunch

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Speaker 1: The first question is how big a deal is it?

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Speaker 1: And is the hype justified? So I want you, whether

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Speaker 2: Let's talk this through together.

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Speaker 1: And if you're not a Texas fan, and especially if

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Speaker 1: Let's just be honest with ourselves and then once the

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Speaker 1: you don't have to acknowledge that anything major happen today.

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Speaker 1: But what happened clearly is the biggest recruitment probably in

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Speaker 1: verbally committing to Texas. I know some of you have

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Speaker 2: This is a major recruitment.

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Speaker 1: It's the top overall quarterback in the country committing to

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Speaker 1: I got today was, well, we always say Texas is back. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: Go back in the annals of this show. You find

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Speaker 2: Where we suggested Texas is back. We don't really do

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Speaker 1: And I always thought the deeper we got into this thing, boy,

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Speaker 2: This is what you do, This is what the best do.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Ryan Day and his staff sit around

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't. Now, I know this may be unfamiliar territory.

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Speaker 1: If you're twenty years old, for example, and you're following

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Speaker 1: But I can promise you if it's ever going to

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Speaker 1: Look at the programs out there.

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Speaker 2: We're elite, good to very good.

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Speaker 1: Elite players usually don't transfer. But the good to very

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Speaker 1: we've been defining See.

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Speaker 2: Me lurch there.

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Speaker 1: This is the only time I've ever had coffee on

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Speaker 1: the set. That's what kind of day it's been. We're

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Speaker 1: defining reasonable expectations. So Colin, here's your endpoint. Reasonable expectations

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Speaker 1: Part three, maybe even part four. Let's dive in and

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Speaker 1: let's start with the Clemson Tigers tonight. What's reasonable to expect.

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Speaker 1: I think Clemson's part of that club, that eleven and

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Speaker 1: one club that we talk about. There are only a

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Speaker 1: few of these, but again, the rules are when you

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Speaker 1: stack the kind of talent they have and when you've

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Speaker 1: got the kind of track record they have, it is

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Speaker 1: reasonable for that fan base, especially given the nature of

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Speaker 1: clemson schedule every year, to expect eleven wins, knowing they're

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Speaker 1: capable of undef feed and knowing something like last year

449
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Speaker 1: could happen. But if nine and three happen or happens,

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Speaker 1: you could be disappointed in that. You should be because

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Speaker 1: you're you're nine and three. You know most team's successes

452
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Speaker 1: would be your failures. Now, Clemson's preseason over underwent total

453
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Speaker 1: is ten and a half, so this would be an

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Speaker 1: over ever so slightly. Here, I just asked this. I

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Speaker 1: always get people who disagree, but you never give me reasons.

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Speaker 1: So I want to ask, if you think that eleven

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Speaker 1: and one is an unreasonable expectation for Clemson, tell me

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Speaker 1: why you can do it. In the comments of the

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Speaker 1: live chat here a kind of halfway have my eye

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Speaker 1: on it. There's proof I'm watching it, though. You tell

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Speaker 1: me why a Clemson fan should not be aggressive with

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Speaker 1: their expectation level. They've got the top defensive line in

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Speaker 1: the conference. They, unlike last year, have options at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They're a proven commodity. Like I said, last year was

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Speaker 1: a bad year and they still ended up winning double

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Speaker 1: digit games. I think the options at quarterback point cannot

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Speaker 1: be overstated. Though.

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Speaker 2: See last year when we figured.

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Speaker 1: Out what they were offensively, and more importantly, when the

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Speaker 1: rest of the conference did, you just kind of had

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Speaker 1: to throw your hands up and say it is what

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Speaker 1: it is. This year as early as the Georgia Tech

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Speaker 1: game in Week one, if we find out that they're

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Speaker 1: struggling offensively, I know Dabos Winny said all the right

475
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Speaker 1: things about DJ.

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Speaker 2: He has an.

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Speaker 1: Option, and that option had five stars next to his

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Speaker 1: name in this past class too. Kid Clubnick is there now.

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Speaker 1: He may be a true freshman, but he's capable of

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Speaker 1: a lot of things. There were some really good returns

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Speaker 1: from him out of spring ball. He's a little more advanced.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that you would use the term raw

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Speaker 1: to describe Kid Clubnick. You wouldn't say seasoned, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's raw and just an automatic red shirt

485
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Speaker 1: candidate gonna need a year no matter what. No, there

486
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Speaker 1: may very well come a time this year, especially if

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Speaker 1: there is offensive struggle where kid Clubnick is that guy.

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Speaker 1: And I'm telling you right now, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: experience at the quarterback position up and down the ACC.

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Speaker 1: But how much top end talent is better than the

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Speaker 1: backup option Thereck, Clemson, I don't know. Now. Talent doesn't

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Speaker 1: alone do what you need it to do, but they've

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Speaker 1: got options there. And the next thing you also have

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Speaker 1: to talk about, obviously, is the Clemson schedule. They have

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Speaker 1: NC State on the schedule. Yeah, they get him at home,

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Speaker 1: though they do have to go to Notre Dame, they

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Speaker 1: have a bye before that and elsewhere. Their toughest stretch

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Speaker 1: is at Wake, NC State, at Boston College and those

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Speaker 1: three games. While they may qualify as the toughest stretch

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Speaker 1: on Clemson schedule, I mean we're about to talk about

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Speaker 1: Auburn in a second in Arkansas. You ask those teams

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Speaker 1: how that compares to their tough stretches. That's not even

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Speaker 1: close to the toughest stretches some of these teams play.

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Speaker 1: So all those things considered, yes, eleven and one more

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Speaker 1: than reasonable for the Clemson Tigers speaking of the Tigers,

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Speaker 1: let's shift down. Let's go through Georgia. Pick which interstate

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Speaker 1: you want to use. Let's go to Lee County, Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Auburn seven and five is what I'm going to call reasonable.

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Speaker 1: Our buddy Parker, I never let him know, I never

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Speaker 1: give him a heads up, but every now and then

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Speaker 1: he stumbles upon a good point and he puts it

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Speaker 1: out there publicly. So he did that today. It was

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Speaker 1: that time of It was that time a month for Parker.

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Speaker 1: I'm going a pause so I can clip that for

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Speaker 1: individual out of context use. Later on, Parker said, random thought,

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Speaker 1: how was Auburn's twenty twenty one reel? They were six

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Speaker 1: and two, then they lost five straight games that they

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Speaker 1: just absolutely gave away. Then a faction of boosters tried

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Speaker 1: to get the coach fired unsuccessfully, and then that coach

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Speaker 1: still signed a top twenty five recruiting class. How well,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you how. It's actually a slogan around there,

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Speaker 1: and it sounds a little something like this because it's Auburn.

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Speaker 1: That's how if you were to pitch Auburn as a

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Speaker 1: serious to Netflix, they would shoot it down before I

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Speaker 1: even finished that tweet, because they would say that's unrealistic.

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Speaker 1: We need something that's believable. Oh, it happens. It happens

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Speaker 1: around here all the time. I grew up right next

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Speaker 1: to this program. I am intimately familiar with it, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's something that you can love it.

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Speaker 2: You know, you have to.

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Speaker 1: You have to appreciate at a certain point or otherwise

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Speaker 1: you'll just pull your hair out.

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Speaker 2: You just well, some of us it's almost.

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Speaker 1: Don't have that option, but you observe it, and it's

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Speaker 1: almost like at some point you just go, just wake

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Speaker 1: me up when fall gets here, you know, because like

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Speaker 1: Parker said, there, after all that Parson got Tank Bigsby,

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Speaker 1: he didn't transfer. You remember those rumors sign a top

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Speaker 1: twenty five class. And so now the over under being

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Speaker 1: six wins for the Auburn Tigers this year, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tick a little bit above that, as I have most

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Speaker 1: of the time, with reasonable expectations, because I always think

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Speaker 1: it's reasonable, especially for major programs who have invested, to

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Speaker 1: expect a little bit more than Vegas does. So I'm

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Speaker 1: going to say seven and five is a reasonable expectation

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Speaker 1: for an Auburn fan this year. Now here is the well,

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Speaker 1: here's one of a couple of problems, and by a couple,

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Speaker 1: I probably mean more like half a dozen. There's a

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Speaker 1: saying out there. Sometimes I buy into it, sometimes I don't.

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Speaker 1: And that's saying is, well, if you have two quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: or more, you really have none. That's not always true.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you just have a lot of really good options.

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Speaker 1: For instance, Texas A and M has got a couple

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Speaker 1: of them right now. I think they have two quality quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: maybe three, depending on what Wegman does. I think LSU

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Speaker 1: has more than one capable and quality quarterback right now.

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Speaker 1: At Auburn, though I don't know that they have that.

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Speaker 1: It's a pretty anonymous quarterback room. In fact, I would

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Speaker 1: say this is a pretty anonymous Auburn team. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean anything. Some of Auburn's best teams have been anonymous

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Speaker 1: in the preseason. But Zach Calzada is coming off injury,

562
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Speaker 1: so I don't think anyone, including the coaching staff, fully

563
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Speaker 1: knows what to expect from him. Robbie Ashford is the

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Speaker 1: Oregon transfer transferred out of Oregon for a reason. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that they were necessarily thrilled with what they

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Speaker 1: got from TJ. Finley last year. What is Auburn at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It's an easy question. That's where you always have to

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Speaker 1: start with these teams. But then you extend out beyond that.

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Speaker 1: It's Tank Bigsby and it's a pretty anonymous team. I

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Speaker 1: think they like where they are at tight end. I

571
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Speaker 1: think they look at their defensive personnel and they think,

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Speaker 1: you know, Owen Papo's a really good player. We got

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Speaker 1: some guys with a lot of promise in our defensive secondary.

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Speaker 1: They may be anonymous to the rest of the country,

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Speaker 1: but they can take the ball away. They can get

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Speaker 1: stops when we need to. My question always circles back to,

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Speaker 1: especially if you play in that division and that conference,

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Speaker 1: when you play Penn State, when you play at Georgia,

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Speaker 1: at Ole, Miss, Arkansas A, and m Alabama.

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Speaker 2: List goes on and on.

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Speaker 1: It's that way every year with this team. What kind

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Speaker 1: of edges do you have in these games? You cannot

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Speaker 1: out scheme people in this league if you don't have

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Speaker 1: at least comparable personnel, If you can't get yourself in

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Speaker 1: the same ballpark personnel wise, you have to have edges somewhere.

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Speaker 1: You have to have something that you can leverage to exploit.

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Speaker 1: And with Auburn, you know, when I look at Georgia

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Speaker 1: or I look at them play in Alabama, you can

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Speaker 1: lose those two games and have a respectable season. But

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Speaker 1: then we get another level deep and we talk about

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Speaker 1: Arkansas coming in there at ole Miss. Penn State early

592
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Speaker 1: in the year will obviously be the first big test

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Speaker 1: for them. I think seven and five is pretty aggressive.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm being aggressive saying seven wins. Now, I

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Speaker 1: know the expectation level down there is different than that.

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Speaker 1: That's why this segment's called reasonable expectation. Seven and five

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Speaker 1: is the highest I can go here. Tank Bigsby, if

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Speaker 1: he has a career year, Tank Bigsby could be an

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Speaker 1: all SEC running back and that only be good enough

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Speaker 1: for seven and five. If you want to sell me

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Speaker 1: on a number higher than that, I'll be happy to listen.

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Speaker 1: But it's got to be something that's based in more

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Speaker 1: than just smoking mirrors. You don't smoke in mirrors your

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Speaker 1: way to more than seven wins with the schedule they

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Speaker 1: have to play, and adding Penn State and out of

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Speaker 1: conference for good measure.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the Big twelve here.

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Speaker 1: A lot of changes happening all over the place that

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Speaker 1: includes Norman, Oklahoma, Oklahoma's over under win totals nine and

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Speaker 1: a half at most books. I think nine and a

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Speaker 1: half is pretty much the number across the board. They

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Speaker 1: went eleven to two last year. Now, you know about

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Speaker 1: all the transition out with Lincoln Riley in with Brent Venables,

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Speaker 1: they get a good tune up opportunity this year, so

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Speaker 1: they got who is at UTEP and Kent State coming in?

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Speaker 1: Now you see the over underwin total there on the screen,

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Speaker 1: so nine and a half. Now most of these I

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Speaker 1: have gone a little bit over the total to define

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Speaker 1: reasonable expectations, but I actually went a little bit under here.

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Speaker 1: I think it is reasonable for Oklahoma Oklahoma fans to

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Speaker 1: expect nine wins. Hope for more, but the reasonable expectation

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Speaker 1: is nine wins because after that opening set of games

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Speaker 1: against UTEP and Kent State, look at the next four.

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Speaker 1: You know there's no there's no time. In other words,

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Speaker 1: if you're wabbly in that game at Nebraska, which is

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Speaker 1: not a crazy concept with a first year staff and

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Speaker 1: a first year head coach in town, if you're wobbly

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Speaker 1: at Nebraska, there's no let up.

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Speaker 2: Kansas State is very much a dark horse team in

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Speaker 2: the Big twelve. This year.

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Speaker 1: Then they go to TCU the next week, then they

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Speaker 1: got Texas and Dallas the week after that. There is

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Speaker 1: no even even semblance of an ability to work on

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Speaker 1: anything or you know, maybe lectric guard down until the

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Speaker 1: Kansas game, and that's a month later.

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Speaker 2: And so I picture it going a couple of ways.

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Speaker 1: Either Oklahoma has not dropped off, and the overall talent

638
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Speaker 1: level in the locker room, along with a more seamless

639
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Speaker 1: transition than maybe a lot of people expected, leads them

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Speaker 1: to go three and one or better through that stretch.

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Speaker 1: If that happens, they're off to the races, because once

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Speaker 1: you get halfway into the season, you're probably not wobbly

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Speaker 1: anymore unless injury hits you hard. We know what Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: under Brint Venables is going to be in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: two by that point, and if they get there, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we can redefine this. I'm looking at that four game

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Speaker 1: stretch at Nebraska, Kansas State, at TCU, Texas. Oklahoma fans

648
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Speaker 1: could sell themselves on winning every one of those games.

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Speaker 1: They may be favored in every one of those games.

650
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Speaker 1: What I'm saying is they are all also losable. There

651
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Speaker 1: is a path there. So if we're working in the

652
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Speaker 1: law of percentages. In the world of percentages, I have

653
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Speaker 1: to look at that and figure, yeah, there may be

654
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Speaker 1: a stumbling block in there somewhere, And then down the

655
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Speaker 1: stretch it's at Iowa State, Baylor at West Virginia, Oklahoma State,

656
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Speaker 1: at Texas Tech. These are just I know, they're all winnable.

657
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: It's the big trick. It's the same thing with USC. Ironically,

658
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: that's where Lincoln Riley went. You look at Southern col schedule.

659
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,479
Speaker 1: Every one of those games looks winnable. Oklahoma, every one

660
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: of those games looks winnable. That's the trick in this

661
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: whole schedule formulation and reasonable expectation argument. You notice on

662
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Speaker 1: this show we do not go up and down the

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Speaker 1: list and go that's a when that's a when there's

664
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Speaker 1: a loss. That's when I just don't think there's skill

665
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Speaker 1: in that. Guys, there's hardly any skill in that. The

666
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Speaker 1: week of the game, you think I'm about to sit

667
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Speaker 1: here and tell you what Oklahoma Baylor's going to look

668
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: like on November fifth, I have no clue what I'm

669
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Speaker 1: going to look like on November fifth. I certainly don't

670
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: know what the roster situations are going to be like there,

671
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Speaker 1: whether we've had starters alternate, whether we've had depth chart upheaval,

672
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: whether a team's just underperformed, whether weather's going to be

673
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: a factor.

674
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: Who in the world knows.

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Speaker 1: Nine to three I think is reasonable to expect for Oklahoma,

676
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Speaker 1: and then anything more than that, well, we're probably sitting

677
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Speaker 1: here in December touting Brent Venables as a Coach of

678
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: the Year candidate. Alabama one of the most high profile

679
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: programs in the country. But this will be one of

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Speaker 1: the shortest segments that we do because Alabama is the

681
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Speaker 1: same number every year. Alabama, Georgia, Clemson, Ohio State, they're

682
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: all eleven and one. Eleven and one is the reasonable expectation.

683
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: That's kind of where you set your baseline expectation level

684
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Speaker 1: every single year. I know Bama fans want to go undefeated.

685
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying eleven in one's reasonable. Now you may think

686
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Speaker 1: to yourself, ooh, eleven and one that means he thinks

687
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: they're going to lose a game. No, I think it's

688
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: reasonable to suggest they may drop one. Do you understand

689
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: how good you have to be to have Bama schedule

690
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: this year and still have this be the reasonable expectation.

691
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: They're over under. Win total is eleven by the way,

692
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Speaker 1: So this is kind of right in line with what

693
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Speaker 1: oddsmakers think. Their road schedule is tough and it won't

694
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Speaker 1: be acknowledged because we're talking about Alabama and people kind

695
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Speaker 1: of in their subconscious they have a different standard of

696
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: how they define tough for the good teams. I e.

697
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Speaker 2: If you were.

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Speaker 1: Taking Miami and you made them go to Texas and

699
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Speaker 1: then home against Arkansas, well or no, no, you've got

700
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Speaker 1: to go to all these places at Texas, at Arkansas,

701
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Speaker 1: at Tennessee, at LSU, at Ole Miss or have Michigan

702
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Speaker 1: do that? You know, have Oregon do that? Do you

703
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: understand how big a deal that would be? Just rule

704
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Speaker 1: of the show. If you know me, if you claim

705
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: to be a friend of mine and you were calling

706
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Speaker 1: me during the show, you were getting deleted out of

707
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Speaker 1: the eye, Josh, we continue that.

708
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Speaker 2: Road stretch is brutal.

709
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Speaker 1: It will be overlooked, like I said, cause it's Bama

710
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: and so people.

711
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 2: Assume they're going to win every game.

712
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: You know, they went into College Station as a three

713
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: touchdown favorite last year. Does anyone remember I do you

714
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: know where I was during that game? I was not

715
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Speaker 1: where I should have been. And so even with that,

716
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: though Bryce Young is back there, that's the best quarterback

717
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Speaker 1: in the country. You'll have a lot of debate about

718
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Speaker 1: c J.

719
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Speaker 2: Stroud.

720
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Speaker 1: If you gave me CJ. Stroud as a backup option,

721
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Speaker 1: I would not be upset. I'm just saying one of

722
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: them won the Heisman last year. You're looking at the

723
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: one in Crimson here. He's got a very deep stable

724
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: of tailbags. You've got the best pass rush in America.

725
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: You got to me the two best edge rushers in

726
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: America on the same team, and they've got a very

727
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: very veteran season talented secondary. There are so many blinking

728
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: green arrows on Alabama that even with that road schedule,

729
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: you still find a way to say it's reasonable.

730
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: Eleven and one.

731
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Speaker 1: I guess that wasn't as short as I thought it'd be.

732
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Speaker 1: Community moving on, let's go to Arkansas. This is the

733
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: one I struggled with the most. I spent like probably

734
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: thirty minutes on Arkansas today, kind of cause I wanted to,

735
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: and kind of because it's tough to figure this out.

736
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Speaker 1: Arkansas has got a brutal schedule too. They do every year.

737
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Speaker 1: It's kind of I think it's a state law in Arkansas.

738
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: They have to have one of the five toughest schedules

739
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: in America. The schedule may be brutal, but I'm not flinching.

740
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: Nine and three is a reasonable baseline expectation for Arkansas

741
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: this year, which, as you can see, differs greatly. The

742
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: preseason over under win total in Vegas is seven. I'm

743
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: gonna tell you why that is. Because this schedule is

744
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: it's broken glass, and Arkansas may be barefoot. They have

745
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: a schedule that really harkens back to one of our

746
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: famous or one of our favorite sayings. I don't know

747
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: how famous it is. One of our favorite sayings on

748
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: the show. One of the big lies in college football

749
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: is you are what your record says you are. The

750
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: actual rule is sometimes you are what your schedule dictates

751
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: you are. And right now you can just know that

752
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: they play in the SEC West and know they've got

753
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: a tough schedule. But then when I tell you they've

754
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: got Cincinnati for good measure, they go to Brigham Young,

755
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: They're traveling to Provo, Utah for an out of conference

756
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: game the week after.

757
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: Here's the stretch.

758
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: They play A and M in Dallas, then they play

759
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: Bama at home, then they go to Mississippi State, then

760
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: they go to Provo, Utah.

761
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 2: There's no bye week in there.

762
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: That's back to back to back to back madness.

763
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: But they're gonna do it anyway.

764
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: Arkansas will have the fastest defense you have seen them

765
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: have this year. I know they are thrilled, they are

766
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: lit up with the potential of that defense.

767
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 2: Up there.

768
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Speaker 1: We are Big Bury otom guy on this show, Big

769
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: Barry Otem guys, that's the defensive coordinator for those unfamiliar

770
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: there at Arkansas. I think that even with that challenge,

771
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: you have to remember something because you can kind of

772
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: get caught up and looking at strength of schedule, and

773
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: we look at it a lot on this show. But

774
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: what you have to sell your team on, which Sam

775
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: Pittman won't struggle at all with, is you don't play

776
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: a schedule on Saturday. You play one team on a Saturday.

777
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: So when you face off against ole Miss, you're not

778
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: playing LSU and A and M and Bama. It's just

779
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: Ole Miss. On that day, It's just Alabama. I know

780
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: that's a mouthful, but it's just AMM. Come September twenty fourth,

781
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: it's only a game at Auburn the twenty ninth of October,

782
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: no more, no less. And the fact of the matter

783
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: is including the Bama game since it's in their building,

784
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: They're going to think they're capable of winning every game,

785
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: and I at the very least think they're capable of

786
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: competing in every game. So nine and three, I know

787
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: it differs. It is totally detached from what the Vegas

788
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: reality says. Arkansas is I think they're that good a team.

789
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: Nine and three, this shy, I think is reasonable. They're

790
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 1: watching us in Jacksonville, Alabama. They're watching us in Orange,

791
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: Texas and Quincy, Massachusetts tuned in. Still can't believe we

792
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: had a check in from Scotland earlier tonight. Okay, bold

793
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: Predictions Chapter nineteen upon us. Let's dive right in. I

794
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: think we had the boldest segment we've ever had in

795
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: chapter eighteen. Let's see what chapter nineteen has in store.

796
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: How about this one. We're starting off with a little

797
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: rivalry game flavor. The earliest bold prediction you'll get on

798
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: this fine Thursday, late kick filled morning is Florida and

799
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: Georgia will both be undefeated when they face off in Jacksonville.

800
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: As you can see, that was sen at two fifty

801
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: four AM, so that checks out. It was very early

802
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: Georgia and Florida both undefeated. Now you know this game

803
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: takes place in the latter portion of the season in Jacksonville.

804
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: Every year, George is going to be favored the entire

805
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: way until this game and in this game. So let's

806
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: not focus on Georgia so much. Let's focus on Florida. Clearly,

807
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: that's the big challenge here. New staff, Billy Napier. There

808
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: a lot of hope at quarterback, which we haven't always

809
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: been able to say over the last few years with

810
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: Florida with Anthony Richardson. Utah is the first of several

811
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: potentially losable games here. It's a very unique kind of

812
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: balance because this is also a situation kind of like

813
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: we talked about with Oklahoma. I look at the Utah game,

814
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: I see that one is hanging in the balance. A

815
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: Florida fan looks at it and says, that's in the swamp.

816
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: Week one, kids from Utah coming down here. We should

817
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: win that game. Kentucky comes in there Week two, that's

818
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: a losable game. I look at that as hanging in

819
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: the balance.

820
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: A lot of.

821
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: Uncertainty, especially with Florida, and then you combine that these

822
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: first two weeks facing two of the most veteran staffs

823
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: and teams that are most sure of themselves in America.

824
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: I look at those games and I think could go

825
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: either way. Florida fan looks at that and rightfully says,

826
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: we get the first two games in the Swamp, we

827
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: should be two and oh. Ditto South Florida. Week three,

828
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: we should be three to oh. And then they look

829
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: at the trip to Kneelan. I say, hey, that's the

830
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: first time Billy Napier takes that operation out on the road.

831
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: It's it's just it's when you find out about yourself

832
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: on the road in major conference play.

833
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 2: A Florida fan looks and.

834
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: Says, have you seen the recent results US versus Tennessee.

835
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: I look at it and say, records are really better

836
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: at predicting.

837
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: The past than the future.

838
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes that's going to be a raucous environment, especially if

839
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: Tennessee won against Pitt or you know what, even if

840
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: they lost against Pitt, that's the first real big conference

841
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: game they have. So anyway, my point there, before we

842
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: ever get to the Georgia game, it's whether it's Utah

843
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: or Kentucky at Tennessee LSU. There are a number of

844
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: games on that schedule that are losable. A Florida fan

845
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: could make an argument to win all of them. I

846
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: could make the argument Florida wins all of them. Law

847
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: of percentages. What is the percentage chance that Florida wins

848
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: all of those games that are going to be really

849
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: tight point spreads? I would say not great. So I

850
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: would say the overall boldness of thinking that the cocktail party,

851
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 1: which it is and always will be known as around

852
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: here is going to feature undefeated teams is an eight

853
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 1: and a half.

854
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,479
Speaker 2: I left a little room. It's not a nine. Yeah,

855
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: I could see it. It's not likely.

856
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: Now, there is also this world, and it would be

857
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: I would be remiss if I didn't mention this.

858
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: You know, Georgia could.

859
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 1: Lose a game. It has happened before. They could lose

860
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: to Oregon. Maybe probably not. I don't expect it necessarily.

861
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: They could go to South Carolina in Week three. Hey,

862
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: Bama dropped a game as a three touchdown favorite last year,

863
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: Why not Georgia?

864
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: They could almost be real.

865
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: They're not losing to Auburn October eighth, but I guess

866
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: they could point being crazier things have happened post championship.

867
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 2: Who in the world knows what their locker room dynamic is.

868
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: I've got a lot more confidence in Georgia being there

869
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: undefeated than Florida. I think that's common sense. So the

870
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 1: eight and a half is what I put on that one.

871
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: Next up, this is where we got to be careful.

872
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: Let me take a sip of the cold coffee here, Colin.

873
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: If I were you, I just leave that in there. Okay,

874
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: pay close attention to what this says. How bold am

875
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: I for predicting CJ. Stroud will break Joe Burrow's records

876
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: for touchdowns and yardage this season? And then he lists

877
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 1: all of the weapons around CJ. Stroud. All right, here's

878
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: the paper pop, so you know it's you know, it's

879
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: serious time. Please understand the context. I was in an

880
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: argument for hours defending my honor on message boards earlier today,

881
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: which is really what the company hired me to do,

882
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: arguing about what I didn't say about something. So here

883
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: is to be clear what we are saying here. We're

884
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: not asking is CJ. Stroud a good quarterback? He is

885
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: very much that we're not asking if he's going to

886
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 1: be a first round draft pick.

887
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: He absolutely will be.

888
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: We're asking if he's going to quite literally rewrite the

889
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: college football record books. Is he going to have the

890
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: greatest season of all time? Is that gonna happen? That

891
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: by default, no matter how good you are, is a

892
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: nine on the boldness goal, and it'd be a ten

893
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: for most people, which shows you how much respect I

894
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: have for Stroud. Here's what you have to do. We're

895
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: looking at some of the numbers here. You have to

896
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: if you're going to top Joe Burrow seventy six point

897
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: three percent completion percentage in twenty nineteen, fifty six hundred

898
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: passing yards, almost fifty seven hundred, sixty touchdowns. Okay, last year,

899
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 1: sixty touchdowns is what I have to get to. CJ

900
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: had forty four last year. That was in three fewer games,

901
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: so you see this theoretically could happen. He is a

902
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: little about twelve hundred yards shy in three fewer games.

903
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: The completion percentage is up there, so that could happen.

904
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: The touchdowns he's sixteen shy. My question is, and usually is,

905
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: with teams like Ohio State, they're going to be so

906
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: much better than a lot of their competition that yes

907
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: there is a world. If I were Ryan Day and

908
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: I made it my mission entering twenty twenty two to

909
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: break Joe Burrow's records, I may actually be able to

910
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: do it. If that were my sole focus, I just

911
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: leave CJ. Stroud in there and I would throw the

912
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: ball up eighty five on teams, and yeah, I.

913
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 2: Could do it.

914
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 1: Of course, they're not going to do that because that's

915
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: not their primary goal. Amrigals to win and when necessary,

916
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 1: get him out of games to keep him healthy.

917
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: Their quarterback depth is.

918
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: Not nearly what it was last year, last couple of years,

919
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: so I don't even know that there's going to be

920
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: a willingness to try. I think they're going to be

921
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: up on so many teams this year so early. You

922
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: may see him play, you know, one or two series

923
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: into the third quarter and then he's out of there. Well,

924
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: that's not good for stat accumulation, which is one of

925
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: many reasons I've always had a problem with the Heisman

926
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: Trophy being a stat driven award, Primarily stat driven when

927
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: you got kids that you know their stats aren't what

928
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: you want them to be because they got pulled from

929
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: games because their teams are so good. Anyway, that's a nine.

930
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: That's going to be a tall task. Not impossible, but

931
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: a tall task.

932
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: Next up.

933
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: This sounds a little like a question we had Sunday,

934
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: but it's not. There's a subtle difference here. Here's the question,

935
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: or here's the suggestion.

936
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: Here's the prediction.

937
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: The college football Playoff will have two new entries to

938
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 1: the final four this year. I mean it's two teams

939
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: that have never made the playoff, kind of like last

940
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: year with Cincinnati and Michigan will make the.

941
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 2: Playoff this year.

942
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: So I've told Stats and Info or as you may

943
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: know him, producer Jesse Jesse, do we still have that

944
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: graphic we used to show the teams that could be

945
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: viable contenders this year, but they haven't cracked the playoff

946
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: bubble for whatever reason. And so he said, yeah, we

947
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: have that. So the teams we're talking about there that

948
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: could make the playoff.

949
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: This year, we need two of these teams to make it.

950
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: Texas A and m usc Utah, Wisconsin, Texas, Oklahoma State, Baylor, Florida, Iowa,

951
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: Pitt Miami, Penn State, or someone else not in that field.

952
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: But those are the teams, Notre Dame's already made it.

953
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: Oregon and Washington have already made it. Michigan made it

954
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,959
Speaker 1: last year, So we need two of these teams to.

955
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: Make the playoff.

956
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: I think this is a seven on the boldness scale. Now,

957
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: I think most of you would make it a little

958
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: bolder than that. But you know, last year I think

959
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: tall to us that those inevitabilities that everyone told you

960
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: existed in the college football playoff era, they're not always

961
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: as inevitable as they seem. What I mean by that

962
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: is Oklahoma was a preseason number one last year.

963
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: It was just a lock.

964
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: Remember that, Remember that word being thrown around. It was

965
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: a lock. They were going to make the playoff. Nope,

966
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: didn't even play for the conference title. Ohio State, how's

967
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: it going to be anyone but them? Think about how

968
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: much distance will be between Ohio State and the field? Nope,

969
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: didn't even play for the Big Ten title?

970
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: Has there ever been a bigger playoff?

971
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: Lockman? Clemson? Nope, didn't even play for the ACC title,

972
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: and the cricket showed up in December. My point being,

973
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: this is possible, and there's enough quality and team on

974
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: this graphic I'm showing you here that yeah, it could happen.

975
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,479
Speaker 2: Now, you need two of them.

976
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 1: So right off the bat, we're suggesting that we can't

977
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 1: be having two SEC teams make it unless the rest

978
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: of the country gets locked out. We probably could stand

979
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: a good chance to do this if there's an upset

980
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: in the ACC because if anyone not named Clemson or

981
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: Florida State, Florida State is probably not involved in this

982
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: this year. But if anyone not named Clemson makes it

983
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: out of the ACC, well, there's one down. Doesn't matter

984
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: who it is. Ditto in the Pac twelve. If it's

985
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: not Oregon, it's probably not gonna be Washington. So if

986
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: it's USC, if it's UCLA, if it's Utah, boom, we

987
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: got our two. Otherwise, A and M needs to break through.

988
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: If Florida could break through, Texas could break through. So

989
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy, but I do think it's

990
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: pretty bold. I'm gonna say that's a seven next up.

991
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: This one's bold to me. This is the boldest prediction

992
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: that we got tonight. I cannot find a way for this.

993
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: Keegan said at least three Big ten head coaches will

994
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: get fired at the end of this year, and I

995
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: just can't find it. I mean, if we were to

996
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 1: go worst case, if we were to go pure Devil's

997
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: advocate chaos here, Yes, Scott Frost could have another disastrous

998
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: season and he could get the acts at Nebraska. Yeah.

999
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: I don't think that's hard to envision. I'm not predicting it.

1000
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: I actually think the other path is the one we're

1001
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: going to go down with Nebraska. But yeah, for the

1002
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: sake of argument, Okay, I'll give you Scott Frost. We're

1003
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: looking at all the Big Ten head coaches. If you're

1004
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: watching on YouTube right now, who are we looking at.

1005
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: It's not Jeff brom They won nine games at Purdue

1006
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 1: last year and they could uy for the Big Ten

1007
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: West title this year. It's not Brett Biela May. He

1008
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: just got to Illinois five minutes ago. Pat Fitzgerald's not

1009
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: getting fired at Northwestern. PJ.

1010
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: Fleck.

1011
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: I think there could be a situation where there are

1012
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: three or more names that aren't on this graphic this

1013
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: time next year. But it could be because a guy

1014
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: like Kurt Ferretch just retires at Iowa. It could be

1015
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: that PJ. Fleck gets a new job somewhere. Mel Tucker, Harball,

1016
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: Ryan Day. Those guys aren't getting fired. I don't think

1017
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: Mike Loxley runs the risk of getting fired this year

1018
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: at Maryland. Greg Ciano, No, Tom Allen, I don't think so.

1019
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: So if you talk about retirement or moving on to

1020
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: a better job, yeah maybe, but fired. No, this is

1021
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: a nine point five. There are not going to be

1022
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: three head coaches. Well, I'll put it this way. There

1023
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: will not be three Big ten head coaches or more

1024
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: getting fired for performance based reasons. Now, if there's scandal

1025
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: or something breaks out, that's out of my hands control that,

1026
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: And I don't control on field either. But I'm just

1027
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: telling you I don't really see a path where three

1028
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: or more fire. Last one here. You know, out of

1029
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 1: all the out of conference games in the first month

1030
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: of the college football season, one we haven't talked about

1031
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: a lot is mentioned here. Texas Tiger said the University

1032
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: of Washington will upset Michigan State.

1033
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 2: They're going to go nine to three.

1034
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: Watching from Pittsburgh, Texas, I put an eight on this.

1035
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: So we're predicting two things to happen here. Now let's

1036
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: get to the second one. First, Michigan State going to Washington.

1037
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: That game opened at Michigan State minus six. That number

1038
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: has dropped to four. So that's not crazy Washington. If

1039
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: they won that game in Seattle, that would be considered

1040
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: a mild upset points spread wise. Oh yeah, if we

1041
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 1: were just predicting that, that's one thing. But predicting Washington

1042
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: to win nine games when I have no clue if

1043
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: they're going to have any kind of functionality offensively up

1044
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: there this year, that's a different story. You want them

1045
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: to make a Bowl, you want them to win seven games.

1046
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: I think the preseason win total seven and a half. There,

1047
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: all right, you can defense your way to that, but

1048
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: you are not defensing your way to a nine win season,

1049
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: especially with the nature and it kind of the even

1050
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: balance throughout the Pac twelve. I won't even say beneath

1051
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: Tier one, everybody feels like they can beat everyone out there.

1052
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: When you struggle to score, everything's a toss up outside

1053
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: of maybe Kent State in Portland State the rest of

1054
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: the way on this schedule, if you cannot be much

1055
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: better than they were offensively last year, every one of

1056
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: those games could be a struggle. That's why they're plus

1057
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: eighteen hundred to be the Pac twelve champ. That's why

1058
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: the preseason over under win total is seven and a half.

1059
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: I tried to find it. I promise you I did,

1060
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: but this one's an eight. It's really tough for me

1061
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: to see that. I think you would. You would probably.

1062
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: Here's the way it would look. Washington would have two

1063
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: or three wins that you look at the box score

1064
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: of and you ask, how did Washington win this game?

1065
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: They got out gained by like one hundred and thirty

1066
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: yards turnover battle. They do have the defense to be

1067
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: able to potentially force those kinds of games, but they're

1068
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: gonna have to do it a lot one or two games.

1069
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on a couple of really good

1070
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: question we call it question and an answer. I'm gonna try

1071
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: and have you an answer here. These are fun though.

1072
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take another sip of coffee here. I'm going

1073
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: to sleep five minutes after the show tonight, let me

1074
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: tell you what happened today. By the way, now that

1075
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: we're deep in the show and our diehard audience is

1076
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: tuned in, I work out. I'm not telling I work

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Speaker 1: out somewhere downtown. Half of you are in there every day.

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Speaker 1: I talk to a lot of our viewers in the

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Speaker 1: gym every day. It's close to the office. We're right

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Speaker 1: in the middle of downtown Nashville. It's close to the office.

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Speaker 1: Arch Manning commits to Texas and so the eye Josh

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Speaker 1: lights up. I've got management from Fort Lauderdale to Nashville

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Speaker 1: to Stamford, Connecticut trying to call me up. And I

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Speaker 1: made the grave mistake of picking up the phone in

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Speaker 1: the gym. And so I went from being in the

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Speaker 1: gym doing shoulders to this seat right here doing a

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Speaker 1: live hit with Bud Elliott in nine minutes, pour and sweat.

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Speaker 2: On the show. Sitting here right here on the desk.

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00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: I had to walk in and open up, and I

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00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: kid you not, this exists here an emergency pack of

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Speaker 1: white T shirts because I didn't have my white T

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Speaker 1: shirt with me. So I opened up the white T

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Speaker 1: shirt just changed right there, partial nudity in the office,

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Speaker 1: and then we got on air and we did our thing.

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Speaker 1: Well that was like what colin eleven or noon, and

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Speaker 1: we've been here ever since.

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Speaker 2: Now most of.

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Speaker 1: You in the United States of America we just call

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Speaker 1: that a regular work day. I don't live a very

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Speaker 1: hard life, so we are not conditioned to work a

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Speaker 1: full eight hours around here.

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Speaker 2: So I got to tell you.

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Speaker 1: It's the toughest day I've had in a long time,

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Speaker 1: and we're trying to motor through it here, So let's

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Speaker 1: motor through it.

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of halfway joking, except for the gym part.

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Speaker 1: That was real. Appreciate you guys being tuned in though.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this question. This is one that I

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00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: almost let the show with.

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Speaker 2: If ars many wouldn't have committed. That's how into this

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00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 2: I got.

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Speaker 1: Today. Evan asked which stadium design, in your opinion, makes

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00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 1: for a better game day atmosphere. A typical stadium where

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00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: the bowl goes three hundred and sixty degrees all the

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Speaker 1: way around, like Michigan, or a stadium that's more unique

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00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: in design, like the Horseshoe checking in from Lincolnshire, Illinois.

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Speaker 1: I love the uniqueness of college football stadiums. I've kind

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Speaker 1: of told you in the fall when we go on

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Speaker 1: our tour last year it was the Renaissance Tour. This year,

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Speaker 1: TBD name coming very soon, especially if it's a venue

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Speaker 1: I've never been to. I get there a minimum of

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Speaker 1: three hours early because we're credentialed and we can get

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Speaker 1: in the building before it's opened to the public. I

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Speaker 1: did this at Michigan last year, I did it at

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Speaker 1: Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State. I get in there,

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Speaker 1: I go set our bags down, and I just walk

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Speaker 1: throughout the entire building, walk the field, walk the tunnels,

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Speaker 1: go to the locker rooms if you can access them.

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Speaker 1: Some places it's really weirdly designed where you can't access them.

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Speaker 1: And some places like Clemson, they you know they got

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Speaker 1: a locker room there, but they ride the bus into

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Speaker 1: the stadium and I just check it out. I've told

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Speaker 1: you several stories about how real home field is in

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00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: college football. Home field edge, but it's not just because

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Speaker 1: of how loud the stadiums are. Understand, these buildings are

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Speaker 1: so old and the home accommodations have been modernized. So

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Speaker 1: at Georgia or at Michigan, or at Auburn or Alabama,

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Speaker 1: if you're the home team, you got the best of

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Speaker 1: the best. But here's what I love so much. I

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Speaker 1: always use Auburn as an example because I've witnessed it

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00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 1: first hand. At Auburn, the visitors' locker room I don't

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Speaker 1: think has been touched since Pat Dye first toured Auburn's campus.

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Speaker 1: And it's this little narrow corridor you got to walk

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Speaker 1: single file to the locker room and single file to

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Speaker 1: the stadium.

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00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: You can't fit the whole team in the.

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Speaker 1: Locker room, support staff, training table, a hydration station, leaf.

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00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: They spill out onto this corridor. There's not really good

1149
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: lighting down there. Some folks are using their iPhone flashlight

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00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: to see. This is all happening, by the way, in

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00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: halftime of major college football games, and you're not seeing

1152
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: this because you're watching on TV. My point is, I

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00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: love that. I wouldn't change that if I could. All

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Speaker 1: these modern designs in these NFL stadiums, that's beautiful. They're immaculate.

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Speaker 1: You watch them on Sunday. That's not college football. People don't.

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00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: I love this sport for the bells and whistles. People

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Speaker 1: they want to have to creature comforts. Obviously, it's nice

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00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: to have a chair back, it's nice to be able

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Speaker 1: to go into a room, or some cool air blows

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Speaker 1: on you early in September. But people love this sport,

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Speaker 1: and the ones who do love this sport, they're willing

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Speaker 1: to deal with maybe lack of accommodation, especially if it

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Speaker 1: lends itself to a unique setting, and especially if it

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Speaker 1: makes your program and your team stand out on the

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Speaker 1: national level a little bit more. But college football is

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Speaker 1: not loved for the bells and whistles. It never has been.

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Speaker 2: It's old.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the stadiums are old. A lot of

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00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: them are hard to get to. They've got some weird names,

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Speaker 1: They've got some even weirder designs. I love that. I

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Speaker 1: am almost irrationally fascinated, to the point where you would

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Speaker 1: think I was an architect. I could barely build a

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Speaker 1: lego house. I'm just saying. I always go into these places,

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Speaker 1: and I'm always fascinating because you can see very clearly

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Speaker 1: a place like Penn State's a perfect example. Penn State

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Speaker 1: is not one of those stadiums that has an open

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Speaker 1: end at all, so I guess you would refer to

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Speaker 1: it as a full bowl. But if you look at

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Speaker 1: this place, when I've gone to Penn State, which has

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Speaker 1: been once, and when I've seen it on TV, it

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00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: always looks to me like a stadium that was built in.

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Speaker 2: About four different decades. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's like Erector Set and this one part over here

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00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: was built in October of nineteen sixty eight, and then

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Speaker 1: this part was built like last year.

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Speaker 2: Some of it looks new.

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Speaker 1: Some of it looks old, but it's all pieced together

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Speaker 1: and it sure enough it does surround you, So I

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Speaker 1: guess you could call it a full bowl. But it

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Speaker 1: doesn't look like for example, Jerry World does at and

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Speaker 1: T Stadium. That's not the way it looks at all.

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Speaker 1: I would not trade it for all the world because

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Speaker 1: when you go in there, they're proud of it. First off,

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Speaker 1: very picturesque, beautiful campus. Loved Penn State when we went

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Speaker 1: up there, will look for any excuse to go back.

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Speaker 1: But the second part of that is the trade off

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Speaker 1: that you get for not having the sweater vest, bow

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Speaker 1: tie crowd in there is you get that kind of

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Speaker 1: crowd if you're watching on YouTube that was shot via

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Speaker 1: this very eye Josh that I hold in my hand

1201
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Speaker 1: at the white out with Auburn last year. Boy, those

1202
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: people know. College football fans take pride in knowing when

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Speaker 1: they walk into those oddly shaped venues with weird.

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Speaker 2: Names, they have a part to play.

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Speaker 1: NFL football is a TV product and it just happens

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Speaker 1: to have seats in the studio. College football it comes

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Speaker 1: across great on TV. College football is an in person

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00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: experience you have not fully experienced college football until you

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00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: experience it in person. You do not need to experience

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00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: NFL football, even though the f says for football, so

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00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: it's redundant. You don't need to experience NFL games in

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Speaker 1: person to understand the NFL. If you can get access

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Speaker 1: to the sideline and you can fully appreciate the speed

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Speaker 1: of the game and the size of the athletes, that's different.

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Speaker 1: But as a pure fan experience, there's nothing like college football,

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Speaker 1: nothing like it. So to answer the question, my experience

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Speaker 1: with exceptions has been that the half deck stadiums where

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Speaker 1: you've got open end zones, or maybe the three quarter

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00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: deck like Ohio State, where there's a weird or an

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00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: open portion of an end zone, but the rest of

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00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: it is captin. I guess my anecdotal experience is those

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00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: are the loudest places. But Alabama's not like that, and

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00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: it's plenty loud. Michigan's not like that, and it's its

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00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: own unique design entirely. Like I just said, Penn State's

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00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: not like that. It's one of the loudest places I've

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Speaker 1: ever been to. So I guess it's just a case

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Speaker 1: by case basis, And let's also be real, depends on

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Speaker 1: which opponent is in town. We have the good fortune

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Speaker 1: of being able to just go to the biggest game

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Speaker 1: every week. So when I went to Michigan, they were

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Speaker 1: playing Ohio State. When I went to Ohio State, they

1232
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: were playing Michigan State. When I went to Penn State,

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00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: they were playing Auburn. So that place is going to

1234
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: be on fire no matter what. But that's a good

1235
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: gauge because I can experience the best of the best

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Speaker 1: that every stadium has to offer. The benefit there is

1237
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: they rarely disappoint. So I love the asymmetrical nature of

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00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: college stadiums. I love the weird design. I love the

1239
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: fact that some of these places look old and they

1240
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: do show a little wear and tear. I don't care

1241
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: if when we go down the tunnels, out of the

1242
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: vision of the TV cameras, if some of the bowels

1243
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: of these buildings haven't been touched since the Eisenheiwer administration,

1244
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: because truth be told, some of the best architecture in

1245
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: our nation's.

1246
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: History it was happening around that time.

1247
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: I look at the stuff that's been built more recently,

1248
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: and I say, give me the older stuff. I say

1249
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: that about cars, I say that about stadiums. Who knows

1250
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: what else I say that about. Okay, let's wrap up

1251
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: with one more pressing question here. Appreciate you guys being

1252
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: tuned in, very much appreciated. Subscribe while you're here, please

1253
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: and like the video. It's free. Josh loved the name.

1254
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: Had a very good question here, and he said, what

1255
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: should be the official rules of college football debates? There

1256
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: are rules that if you break, you lose the argument.

1257
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: I can only come up with one, which is no

1258
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: personal attacks from Warner Robbins, Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Well, Josh Simmons, you.

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Speaker 1: Could only come up with one, but we came up

1261
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: with several more, and now I'm all for no personal attacks.

1262
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: Should be noted. Calling someone a casual is not a

1263
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: personal attack. If they're enrolled at casual ANF they're in

1264
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: rolled there for a reason. So if you go to

1265
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: casual augh, that's just you, that's your label. I'm Josh.

1266
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: If you're a casual, I'm calling you a casual. That's

1267
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: not a personal attack. But I do have some that

1268
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: I specifically want to mention here. Some of these guys

1269
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: you've heard of before, the guy who tells you no

1270
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: matter what you're arguing about, it's his way and it's

1271
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: not even close. You know, heads or tails super Bowl

1272
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: coin toss heads, it's not even close. I can't deal

1273
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: with that. Get out of here, because the irony is

1274
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: most of the time, if something is a heated debate,

1275
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: it's because at the very least it's close. Otherwise the

1276
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: debate wouldn't be heated unless you're arguing with an idiot,

1277
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: in which case you need to remove yourself for other reasons.

1278
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: But if you're telling me so and so, it's not close,

1279
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: blue is the better color. It's not close, and it's close.

1280
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: It's got ninety eight is a lot hotterer than ninety seven.

1281
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: It's not even close. It's close, it's very close. So

1282
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: get that out of here. Don't want to have blank

1283
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: and it's not close. Guy, I certainly don't want to

1284
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: be around the guy that compares college football to pro

1285
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: sports that, in no shape, form or fashion resemble college

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Speaker 1: foot fotball. Here's what that sounds like. The NFL does this,

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball and the NBA do it. Why can't

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Speaker 1: college football cause college football? To be clear, friend, is

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Speaker 1: not major League baseball, It is not the NBA, and

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Speaker 1: it is not the NFL. I do not owe that

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Speaker 1: kind of ignorance. Any further explanation that does it one sentence,

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Speaker 1: we move on, and then I hit the mute button

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Speaker 1: on that person. Also, we want to avoid people who

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Speaker 1: traffic in three of the big lies of college football.

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Speaker 1: We have recounted them many times on this show. One

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Speaker 1: of the big three lies is you are what your

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Speaker 1: record says you are. Noe, not all ten and two.

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Speaker 1: Is are created equal a win as a win Nope.

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Speaker 1: If I beat food fifty six to three and you

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Speaker 1: beat food thirty to twenty nine, we're talking about Rice.

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Speaker 1: Of course those are not equal. You are going to

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Speaker 1: be punished for beating Rice thirty to twenty nine. I

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Speaker 1: will be rightly credited for beating them into a coma

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01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: because one of us did our job. This is not

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Speaker 1: pro sports, this is college sports. Strength of schedule Di

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Speaker 1: tates that sometimes when you've loaded up your roster with

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Speaker 1: four and five star recruits and they've taken your leftovers

1308
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: for five decades, you should do things to them that

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01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: are illegal in about twenty seven states. And if you don't,

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Speaker 1: even if you win, it's not equal to other wins. Also,

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Speaker 1: there's the lie that going undefeated is the hardest thing

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Speaker 1: to do in sports. Well, not all sports are equal.

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Speaker 1: College football is not all sports. Going undefeated in college

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Speaker 1: football is not the hardest thing to do. Now, if

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Speaker 1: Arkansas went undefeated this year, that'd be really hard. But

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Speaker 1: Miami of Ohio and Arkansas play a different caliber opponent,

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Speaker 1: and therefore, if Arkansas goes ten to two and Miami

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Speaker 1: of Ohio goes twelve and oho, then Arkansas has probably

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Speaker 1: accomplished something a lot more incredible than what Miami Ohio

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Speaker 1: has accomplished. So those are some of the big three lies.

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Speaker 1: We can do an individual segment about those later. Can

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Speaker 1: you articulate the other person's argument? This is always one

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Speaker 1: of the hallmarks of whether you're debating something in someone

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01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: that is worth your time or not. Just stop, like

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01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: right in the middle of an argument. If you think

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01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: you have properly articulated your point of view more than

1327
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: once once should be enough. But if you have properly

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01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: articulated your point of view more than once, stop and

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01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: then have them stop and then ask them what is

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Speaker 1: the point I'm making? And if they can't properly articulate it,

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01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: it's because they've heard you, but they have not listened.

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Speaker 1: And if you're not debating someone who's listening. You're not

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Speaker 1: engaging in a debate that's worthwhile. I was doing this today.

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Speaker 1: One of our esteemed viewers said, Hey, you better go

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Speaker 1: over to the Michigan Board.

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Speaker 2: They're ripping you pretty hard.

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Speaker 1: And so I went over there, and hey, if I

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01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 1: would have said the things they were alleging that I said,

1339
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: I would deserve to be ripped because there were some

1340
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: pretty stupid quotes being thrown around. The problem was it

1341
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: was a total mischaracterization or in some cases just an

1342
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: outright misrepresentation of what I said. I spent an inordinate

1343
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: amount of time having to correct the record, so much

1344
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: so that you've noticed if you watch or listen to

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01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: the show, I, many times, before I start a segment,

1346
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: will say, here's what I'm not saying. Just get all

1347
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: that out of the way, because I know I'm gonna

1348
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: have to clip it and use it to defend myself

1349
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: down the road. Can you articulate what the other person said?

1350
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: If you can't, to waste time, we have to do

1351
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: away with people who do not know how to properly

1352
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: gauge success in college football? What does success look like?

1353
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: Do you understand that there are tiers of success. Here's

1354
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: what this guy sounds like. He will frequently use phrases like, well,

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Speaker 1: who have they played?

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Speaker 2: You know?

1357
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: If the Saint Louis Rams, well, I think they moved

1358
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: to LA didn't they? Yeah? If the LA Rams Super

1359
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: Bowl champions. If the LA Rams were to descend to

1360
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: college football intact from last year, but they played four

1361
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: FCS opponents to start the year, you would have someone

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Speaker 1: somewhere out there in the college football Twitter sphere who

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01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: would look at the LA Rams being ranked number one

1364
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Speaker 1: and ask who they played. Though, Guys, there's a big

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01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: diference between the quality of team and the quality of

1366
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Speaker 1: a resume. You could be the greatest team of all time,

1367
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: your resume could be trash. So you can rightfully ask

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01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: m do they have a deserving resume? I've asked that

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01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: about very good G five teams in the past. About

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Speaker 1: the playoff, Notice, when I argued that UCF didn't belong

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01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: in the playoff in twenty seventeen, I never said they're

1372
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Speaker 1: not good enough to win games in the playoff. I

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01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: never said they couldn't compete. I said their resume was

1374
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: not deserving. But there are some folks out there who

1375
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Speaker 1: cannot detach one from the other.

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Speaker 2: They'll just look.

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Speaker 1: Anytime you want to credit a team like Georgia could

1378
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: beat Oregon by forty in Week one and drop Oregon

1379
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Speaker 1: from the ranks of the undefeated and then also out

1380
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: of the rankings entirely. You may end up getting to

1381
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: Week six or Week seven Georgia because they don't have

1382
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: a win over a ranked opponent at that point.

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Speaker 2: Who they play, Who's Georgia played?

1384
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Georgia really needs to prove themselves, like there's

1385
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: no established track record with that team. There will also

1386
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: be these kinds of phrases used against coaches. I praise

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01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: day Aranda, Well, how many titles is Dave Randa one? None?

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01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: And you just look at them and they think they've

1389
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 1: made a point. In reality, you've made yours. Not all

1390
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: good head coaches out there are going to win national

1391
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: championship rings. Do you know why?

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Speaker 2: Should be obvious?

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01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: But if not, I'll tell you again, these these leagues

1394
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: that we watch in these conferences, this sport we love,

1395
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: it is not fair, It is not evenly balanced.

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01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 2: There is not parody. It's an illusion.

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01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,439
Speaker 1: Parody is a myth in college football. It will never

1398
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: be Coast to coast, no matter how many times you

1399
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: rearrange the playoff, no matter how many times you rearrange

1400
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: scholarship limits.

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01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: Some places just care more. Some places have more money.

1402
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: Some places have been around fifty years longer than you have,

1403
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: and they've got a long head start.

1404
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Speaker 2: Some places are just going to always have an edge

1405
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 2: over you.

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Speaker 1: That's the case when you compare the Baylors of the

1407
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: world to the Oklahomas of the world, or to the

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01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: Ohio States of the world, or to the Florida's of

1409
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: the world. That doesn't mean Baylor can't have a really

1410
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: good head coach, and that can't mean that Sometimes what

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01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 1: it's accomplished at Baylor, them winning a conference title last

1412
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: year despite having these second to worst odds to win

1413
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: the conference in the preseason, isn't a monumental accomplishment. But

1414
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: yet you got some folks out there, the window liquor crowd,

1415
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: if you will, that would look at that and say,

1416
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: what is Dave Randa really won? Well, what's he accomplished?

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Speaker 1: I guess is the better way to phrase it. Also,

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Speaker 1: how much of your argument is based in pure speculation?

1419
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,479
Speaker 1: You know there are some people out there who would

1420
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: argue that Nick Saban is the devil. Why, well, he's

1421
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: just he's done this and that his whole career. Press

1422
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 1: them on it, have them provide you the evidence. Don't

1423
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: have them provide you with a message board link. Don't

1424
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: have them send you to a Reddit thread, because that

1425
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: is based in anonymity. Anyone can post anything they want

1426
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 1: to online. These little digits right here can do a

1427
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Speaker 1: lot of damage. It's okay if you think something and

1428
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: it's based in reality, and then you just have some

1429
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: supporting speculative evidence that you want to add on to it.

1430
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: Like it's different if you have the Christmas tree and

1431
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: then you put the ornaments on, then you put the

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Speaker 1: popcorn on. No one has a popcorn tree. You got

1433
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: a Christmas tree with popcorn on it. No one can

1434
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: make a well founded argument based on speculation. That's not

1435
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: what the foundation can be built out of. And yet

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01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: sometimes fact, a lot of times in college football, when

1437
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: you get into debates and you really have that person

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Speaker 1: walk their argument through to a logical conclusion, keep asking

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Speaker 1: them questions. Give a little trick of debate class. When

1440
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: you know you got them on the ropes, keep asking

1441
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: them questions. You'll find that they'll either resort to what

1442
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: about ism, which is where they just deflect and genuflect

1443
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: and you know, try and turn it into a ping

1444
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: pong match and just bounce that ball all over the place. Nope,

1445
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: you just never break eye contact. You let them make

1446
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: their point, and then you get right back to the

1447
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: topic at hand. Okay, great, Now what about the question

1448
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: I asked? Can you walk your point through to a

1449
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: logical conclusion? If you can't, you suck at debate, or

1450
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: maybe you're good at debate and your point sucks.

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Speaker 2: So those are some of the rules.

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Speaker 1: As you can tell, I have studied this at one

1453
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: point scholastically, but also I engage in this a lot.

1454
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 1: I have a lot of fun with it, and so

1455
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: those are some of the rules of college football debate.

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Speaker 1: This is not exhaustive. I would very much appreciate if

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01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 1: you guys chimed in on this. I would actually look

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Speaker 1: forward to reading some of that. So I really appreciate

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Speaker 1: all you guys being tuned in. As I said at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the show, and if you're tuning in

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Speaker 1: later live then you may have missed it. Things look

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Speaker 1: different on here right now. The channel is not called

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Speaker 1: twenty four seven Sports anymore. It's called late kick. I

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Speaker 1: need you to do me a favor. Nothing's wrong, everything's fine.

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Speaker 1: I need you to do me a favor if you

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Speaker 1: will go find the new twenty four to seven Sports

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Speaker 1: YouTube channel and subscribe. Today is a perfect example of

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Speaker 1: why you should be subscribed to my channel and the

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Speaker 1: twenty four to seven channel, because they've got wall to

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Speaker 1: wall breaking news coverage. You know, I didn't get Wiltfong

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Speaker 1: on the show tonight. I didn't get all the dirt

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Speaker 1: and a scoop from our entire recruiting team about arch Manning.

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Speaker 1: You know, I didn't get a lot of the team

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Speaker 1: site coverage. You get all that over on the twenty

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Speaker 1: four seven channel. As for this channel, big things coming

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Speaker 1: one hundred K kind of teased it, kindum handed at it.

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Speaker 1: Got a good idea where management's going around here. So

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Speaker 1: there's a lot that is to be determined to be announced.

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Speaker 1: But when we get to one hundred K, I think

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Speaker 1: it will clear a lot of things up. So until then,

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Speaker 1: for director Colin, for producer Jesse, our tireless crew here,

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Bate. Thanks so much for watching. Have yourselves

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Speaker 1: a great start to the weekend. We'll be right back

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Speaker 1: here Sunday night. Until then, take care and God bless