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Speaker 1: What's up everybody, and welcome to another training camp edition

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Speaker 1: of the Falcons Final Whistle Podcast. I'm Scott Bahar. That's

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Speaker 1: Tory mclaney Michael Walker sitting next to us, fresh off

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Speaker 1: the practice field and really fresh off of what's been

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Speaker 1: a darn good start to training camp so far. Michael,

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Speaker 1: what do you think has been the catalyst for you

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Speaker 1: being able to come out over these first couple of

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Speaker 2: Ah? Man, I mean it's just Zer four. It's some

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Speaker 2: comfortable new system, you know. You want to stand out

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Speaker 2: for the new coaching staff, new defensive scheme, new players,

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Speaker 2: you know, So just trying to just get out there

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Speaker 2: and get anybody's respect again. You know, put some good

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Speaker 2: stuff last year, got to improve, So just come out

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Speaker 2: here every day and just try to improve you one

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Speaker 2: percent bet every day.

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Speaker 3: Something I was talking to Ryan Nielsen about. Gosh, this

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Speaker 3: is probably one of the early days of camp, and

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Speaker 3: you can see that the role that they have you

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Speaker 3: playing is pretty it's amazing, it's interesting, it's a bit

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Speaker 3: more extensive than what I think you've done in recent years.

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Speaker 3: What can you say about what Ryan Nielsen is kind

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Speaker 3: of putting on your plate in terms of I don't know,

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Speaker 3: just kind of getting comfortable in this new scheme and

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Speaker 3: having to play maybe a little bit of a different role.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's with anything. I mean, it's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: you want to find a spot in the field. You know,

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Speaker 2: they have their mold. To any coaches that husbred molde

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Speaker 2: I think it's guys like me's job to come out

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Speaker 2: there and change that idea. I think they have a

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Speaker 2: it's getting where you fit in types, you know, So

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Speaker 2: I got to play inside outside. I I'm comfortable doing both.

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Speaker 2: So just them having the respect and trust in me

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Speaker 2: that I can get it done is it's huge. You know,

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Speaker 2: if I'm playing this position one day, that position the

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Speaker 2: next day, or both, it's just that they believe I

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Speaker 2: can get it done. You know that that's the expectations

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Speaker 2: for me. So I just take that to the heart.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting because he even said to follow up on that,

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Speaker 3: he was like, I'm throwing a lot at Michael right now,

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Speaker 3: and he was like, and I feel like he's kind

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Speaker 3: out exactly where it is that he fits. Is that

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Speaker 3: kind of how it feels these first couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean with anything, it's it's like I said,

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Speaker 2: for me, I'm on your flour. You know, I've been here,

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Speaker 2: and I mean I'm ready. Doesn't matter what defensivecheme we're in,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna find a play. So that's just that's my

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Speaker 2: mentality going into it. I've always had that mentality if

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Speaker 2: it's wherever they want me to play out on the play.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I just at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: I have to take it as a challenge, you know,

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Speaker 2: if they want to throw that out me to come

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Speaker 2: here every day and be ready to go.

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Speaker 1: And this is your third system.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy anybody on Yeah, of anybody on this team,

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Speaker 3: I feel like you've gone through the ringer in terms of,

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Speaker 3: you know, you're on your flour, but in terms of

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Speaker 3: it's wild.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just you know, one of my

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Speaker 2: favorite guys coming out when I was coming out of

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Speaker 2: now just you know, going through different playbooks all the time.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's not just you know, going right out

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Speaker 2: there and play. You know, you really got to study,

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Speaker 2: you really got to learn it. And I think having

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Speaker 2: those different systems have set me up from that because

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Speaker 2: I mean I've been playing different positions and different schemes.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's just set me up to just

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Speaker 1: It and do you like going forward, you know, kind

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Speaker 1: Is that something that you like to do? You think

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just stick with anything. I mean, like

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just this this scheme, it's it fits us,

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Speaker 2: you know, and there's no disrespect for anybody. It's just

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Speaker 2: this is our scheme. You know, I've been waiting the

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Speaker 2: new editions we have up front. You know, this is

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Speaker 2: like my perfect four to three. Let me run around

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Speaker 2: make some plays like that is what I've been waiting for.

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Speaker 2: That's what I got drafted to do. So, like you know,

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Speaker 2: and being on the edge in the scheme as well,

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Speaker 2: Like you know, it's just I feel like I have

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Speaker 3: It's funny because you talk when you say, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think this scheme like fits who we are right now.

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Speaker 3: I completely agree with that. And the reason I do

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Speaker 3: is because this is a different defense in terms of

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Speaker 3: When you kind of look at and it's interesting because

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Speaker 3: it goes along with what I wanted to ask you.

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Speaker 3: We've heard for so long over the last couple of

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Speaker 3: you know, wasn't on the field, and David on Yamada

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Speaker 3: and even Arthur Smith said this. He was like, you

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Speaker 3: can feel a difference with this front seven. Can you

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Speaker 3: feel a difference with this front seven? And what does that?

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Speaker 3: What does that difference kind of look like for you,

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Speaker 3: kind of looking at the guys around.

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Speaker 2: You one hundred percent. I mean you got guys with experience,

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Speaker 2: you know, like now, like you know, I started my

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Speaker 2: twelve games, I've played in that system. You got Kayden

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Speaker 2: it's all about us just coming together and our like

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Speaker 2: our front is ridiculous. I mean I told Grady the

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Speaker 2: other day, like, hey, I've been with you for three years,

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Speaker 2: but this, like this training camp, like I've seen Grady

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Speaker 2: take it to the next level. And that's it's crazy

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Speaker 2: to stay because he already he's already up here and

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Speaker 2: I've seen him this training camp take it to that

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Speaker 2: we we did what we did. You know, we had

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Speaker 2: you have a guy like Grady who's improving every single year,

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Speaker 2: every day, it forces you to take that game up.

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Speaker 2: And then you bring David in the picture. You bring

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Speaker 2: budg you bring Kalays Like it's like, okay, now we're

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Speaker 2: gonna take this to the next level.

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Speaker 1: And then you think that those guys are keeping the

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Speaker 2: And then.

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Speaker 1: And then like you can go be you yes, right

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Speaker 1: as you're going through the scheme when you're first getting

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Speaker 1: it during the off season programmer in April, like whenever

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Speaker 1: like this could be fine, this could be fun for me,

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Speaker 1: Like could you tell that early? And what kind of

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Speaker 1: every asked about Ryan Nielsen? Right, we we know he's intense,

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Speaker 1: but we also hear hear he's a technician. So as

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Speaker 1: during that.

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Speaker 2: Point, Well, it's really you really have to wait so

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Speaker 2: for me, like I have to wait till we come

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Speaker 2: out and see it. You know, because players different, you know,

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Speaker 2: like the guys in front of you, they play different,

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Speaker 2: and as a linebacker, it's your job to know who

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Speaker 2: how I put it. Like, yeah, you might on paper

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Speaker 2: it says you have this gap, but if you have

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Speaker 2: it's okay, like play off of him. So for a

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Speaker 2: lot of my career here and all the different schemes,

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Speaker 2: it was always, ay, this is your job, but play

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Speaker 2: off of him, so, you know, And so when I

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Speaker 2: do between David Grady TQ, you know, like all the

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Speaker 2: different things that these guys can do, it's it's insane.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's like, I know what kind of player

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Speaker 2: I could be with this front, you know, And it's

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Speaker 2: it's one of those situations where it doesn't matter if

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Speaker 2: just get back at that point because I know when

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Speaker 2: I get my opportunity, that's going to be my job

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Speaker 2: it's one of those situations where like I know what

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Speaker 2: we could be on the defense, I know what I

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Speaker 2: could be, So just got to come in every day

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Speaker 2: and keep putting in the work.

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Speaker 3: Man I love that. I think that's so it's very profound.

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Speaker 3: I mean, and to kind of go off that, do

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Speaker 3: you have any like personal goals for yourself this year?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean every time if I'm inside, I want

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Speaker 2: five picks. If I'm outside, I want five seconds. So

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Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's just it's

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Speaker 2: learning is I mean I could be doing both, so

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Speaker 2: you know, and like I said, I mean I just

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Speaker 2: watched I watched the game from last year and broke

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Speaker 2: them down, like I know what I need to work on.

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Speaker 2: I know what I do well. So just coming here

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Speaker 2: and I see you the new audishs like we talked

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Speaker 2: about with what I could do with that in front

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Speaker 2: of me, is like, Okay, it's gonna be interesting. And

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Speaker 2: I'm also excited. I mean, like I talk every time.

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Speaker 2: Troy is my guy and that dude leg I know,

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Speaker 2: like we're in that same role where I'm like, man

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Speaker 2: like with this, I mean, the sky's the limit for

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Speaker 2: both of us. So like they're gonna have to figure it.

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Speaker 3: Out, right, Yeah, make it what you want to right now.

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Speaker 1: Camp life, You've been through a couple of weeks, right,

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Speaker 1: and for those fans that don't know, the players stay

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Speaker 1: in dorms. Here, you're in year four now, like, how

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Speaker 1: do you kind of treat the camp life part of it?

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Speaker 1: Do you treat it differently? Is it basically the same

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Speaker 1: routine for you?

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Speaker 2: How do you look at it? Well, I mean it's

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Speaker 2: it's you know, last year, two years ago, you know,

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Speaker 2: I was a Debo and Fox, so those are my guys.

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Speaker 2: I'm the young guy. I get to mess around due

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Speaker 2: bother them. And then now this year I'm with Troy

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Speaker 2: and Tay, so like you know, it's like it's it's

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Speaker 2: nice because it's just how do you find time to

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Speaker 2: hang out with the guys? Like how I'll find time.

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Speaker 1: his body of work? I know it's still early, right,

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Speaker 1: but what do you take from his first two weeks

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Speaker 3: I actually think that I was talking to Michael Petrie,

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Speaker 3: running running backs coach on Wednesday after practice wrapped, and

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Speaker 3: he made this coming. He's like, you know, he's good,

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Speaker 3: he's elusive, and he's everything that we want him to

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Speaker 3: be and everything like that, but he is still a rookie. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you can't forget that this guy is drinking water out

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Speaker 3: of a fire hydrant, you know, like.

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Speaker 1: He's playing so many positions, so.

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Speaker 3: Many positions, and even Bajon said when we talked to

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Speaker 3: him earlier in the week, it was the first time

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Speaker 3: we talked to him since what ota isn camp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he.

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Speaker 3: Was saying, how I'm really trying to like practice patient

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Speaker 3: because I understand that there's a lot being thrown at me.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna make mistakes, I'm gonna step the wrong way,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do all these things, but I'm learning and

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Speaker 3: it's important. This is something that I wrote about when

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Speaker 3: I was talking about Bajon and where he is. The

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Speaker 3: whole idea of this like patience and trying to get

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Speaker 3: the most out of him while also having to handle

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Speaker 3: all the things that are coming into him in the

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Speaker 3: meeting rooms. Meanwhile, you have Arthur Smith dayverging and Michael

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Speaker 3: Petrie sitting there being like, don't settle for anything. Man,

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Speaker 3: you may be the number eight overall pick, but don't

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Speaker 3: settle for that. I mean, there's a lot that this

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Speaker 3: guy is on his plate right now because he has

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Speaker 3: to play a pretty important role for this team in

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Speaker 3: this offense in twenty twenty three. But I think he's

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Speaker 3: kind of handling it in step and trying not to

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Speaker 3: get too far ahead of himself is the best mindset

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Speaker 3: that he can have. And kind of going back to that,

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Speaker 3: be patient, like they are gonna be good days, they're

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Speaker 3: gonna be bad days. Don't expect the good days to

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Speaker 3: happen back to back to back to back, and be

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Speaker 3: okay with that because you're still learning.

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Speaker 1: And that's why it's so hard, you know. I hate

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Speaker 1: hate to say for people that aren't here every day,

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Speaker 1: but you have to look at it in totality. That's

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Speaker 1: what's important. Because if you take he made a great

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Speaker 1: catch in a one on one against Troy Anderson, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure that you've seen it right where it's everywhere. He

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Speaker 1: made a great first step a double movie. He tips

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Speaker 1: it off his hand and then like and then catches it.

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Speaker 1: Great play. There's no doubting his talent. He's a special individual.

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Speaker 1: We all know that, right. But there are other times

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Speaker 1: that aren't shown on video where maybe he's still learning

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Speaker 1: things or he's not in the exact right spot. And

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Speaker 1: that's why. Last thing that I'll bring up for a

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Speaker 1: story that I think I'm gonna write for a Thursday

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Speaker 1: is that Jon Robinson. They normally put especially young players

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Speaker 1: in the dorms with players from their position group. John

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Speaker 1: Robinson is living with Desmond Ritter, Logan Woodside, and Taylor Heineken,

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Speaker 1: which all the quarterbacks. Desmond Ridder said he was asked

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Speaker 1: about it, and desn Ridder said, that's a pretty smart decision,

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Speaker 1: don't you think. And the answer is yes, because this

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Speaker 1: is a guy that's learning so many positions. You said

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Speaker 1: it eloquently, the amount of information and the amount of

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Speaker 1: expectation hitting him from both sides. So what's the best

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Speaker 1: thing to do? Give him virtually unlimited access to the

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Speaker 1: three guys, three players who know this offense the best. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And that's what's happening. And des said every morning they're

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Speaker 1: going over the practice game plan. He's asking questions, all

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Speaker 1: those little moments he might not have gotten, yeah, if

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Speaker 1: he was somewhere else. And I think giving him access

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Speaker 1: to that obviously with the coaches and Michael Petrie, every

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Speaker 1: access point that you have for this guy, I think

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Speaker 1: is important.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting too, because I know Jon Robinson spoke highly

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Speaker 3: of Desmond Ritter and the fact that he's how much

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Speaker 3: Desmond Ridder is helping him. He even said, I can't

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Speaker 3: think him enough for all the things that he's helped

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Speaker 3: me with over the last couple weeks, maybe even before then.

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Speaker 3: That should not be overlooked. And it's not by coincidence

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Speaker 3: that these two guys are roommates, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, definitely not, And I think it's gonna be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see how Bajon does, how the offensive defensive lineman

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Speaker 1: do in Miami. Toy and I. We're gonna be there

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Speaker 1: taking copious notes and talking to you guys again after

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Speaker 1: those joint practices about what we saw in those two sessions,

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Speaker 1: maybe the most important two sessions of Camp.

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Speaker 3: I love joint practices.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I learned the most about this team

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Speaker 3: in the preseason in joint.

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Speaker 1: Practices, right, So it's gonna be fascinating. Obviously, stay tuned

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Speaker 1: all of our social channels and we will be coming

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Speaker 1: to you with another Falcons final whistle with another guest.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Michael Walker. Really great insight

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Speaker 1: from him, and we will talk to you again next week.

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Speaker 2: See you