WEBVTT - Nolan Arenado 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:08.520 It's the Son of a Buch podcast. We come to 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:13.159 you every Wednesday. The World Series starts this week here 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:16.960 in America, and I figured we would get a baseball 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:21.880 themed guest. Nolan Arnado, third baseman for the St. Louis Carlinals, 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:24.279 one of the best players in baseball. I got a chance, 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:26.680 um to play golf. He uh. He was in town 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:30.320 down a Jupiter. We played at the Grove with DJ 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:34.000 and Ricky Fowler a couple of months ago. And UM, 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:36.559 I mean you talk about a golf junkie. Um, this 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:41.920 guy lives breeze, eat, sleeps golf and we had a 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:43.720 great day and and talked about get him on the 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:48.600 podcast and listen. I always like talking to other athletes 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:53.120 and and hearing about how they play their sport, Um, 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:56.040 what it takes to play their sport, because obviously that's 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:58.280 kind of the world that I live in in golf. 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:00.360 So UM to get a chance to talk uh to 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.360 Nolan and to hear him talk not only about baseball, 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:07.399 but um about his passion for playing golf. UM, I 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:10.760 think it's always cool. And you know, sports, whether it's golf, 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:14.280 whether it's baseball, whatever sport it is, anytime you can 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:16.679 talk to an athlete and kind of get their process. 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:21.800 I think it crosses over into how athletes approach their 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.240 sports UM. And I think you can learn a lot 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:28.800 from listening to other athletes talk about not only golf, 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:31.440 but the way they look at their sport. And Uh, 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:33.200 I think you guys will get a lot out of 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:36.280 this interview. Before we get to that, I wanted to 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.840 talk about our partner for wellness. Listen, you guys hear 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:42.200 me talk about I'm a huge fan of the coffee 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:46.280 UM on the road this week and have their energy 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:49.560 bites with me as well, which UM on the golf course. 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:51.560 When I'm at a tour event, I really don't have 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:53.960 a lot of time to eat UM kind of bouncing 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:57.600 around between multiple players. So these new energy bites UM, 0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:59.480 a little bit of coffee and M gives me a 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.440 little bit of kind of a kick, especially kind of 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:06.800 that late in the afternoon, you know, to three o'clock, UM, 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.200 breakfast starting to wear off. So UM, go check them out, 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:13.680 Go check out the coffee, the good stuff. UM. It's 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:17.000 part of my daily routine when I'm home, and I 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:20.720 think everybody will really really like it. All right, let's 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:28.639 get to the interview with Nolan. Alright, my guest today 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:32.960 Nolan Arnado. I hope I've pronounced that correctly six times, 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.639 our seven time All Star, nine time Golden Glove, one 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.919 of the best third basement in the game, and a huge, 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.639 huge golfer. We met, full disclosure, we met at the grove. 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:46.720 Um played some golf with DJ UM, So definitely gonna 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:49.600 talk to you for your love of golf. But um, 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:52.239 I'm always fascinated Nolan to get an opportunity to talk 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.440 to players from other sports. Um. I think baseball and 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.919 golf have a lot of similarities in the way they're 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:07.440 kind of specific disciplines, individual kind of positions. Um. Do 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.480 you see a correlation between the sports that you play 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.880 baseball and obviously the sports you'd like to play in 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:17.760 the off season and for fun golf? Yeah, you know, 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:21.079 I think both of them take years off your life 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.240 because they're so tough. Huh. But that's how I feel like, 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:27.320 But no, I'm just taking I'm just joking. But you know, 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.799 I think, Um, there is a lot of big correlation 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:32.639 to swing the path like, so they're both really tough 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:36.280 mentally tough, um, and something that you know, I admire 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:39.320 golfers for you know, being able to move on from shots, right, 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:40.680 you gotta be able to move on from my bats, 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:42.800 be able to move on from you know, the games 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:46.240 and stuff like that. So that's something that I really noticed, um, 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.119 and I just have a whole lot of respect for them. 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:53.080 So obviously, question what's harder hitting a ninety mile an 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:56.680 hour fastball or standing up on a tight hole where 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:58.640 you've got water, you've got out of bounds and you've 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:04.000 got to make a good, good drivers swing. What's harder? Um? Wow, 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.120 baseball is the hardest thing to do. Man. For me, 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:08.840 so I think that's harder. But I can't hit a 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:12.280 drive in the fairway, so, um, so that's always tough 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:16.960 for me. Um. But uh, they're both extremely tough. I mean, 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:18.920 I mean I get nervous on the drive, on the 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.400 drive when there's people watching or if I do like 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.279 a little pro am, but I get nervous when there's 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:24.760 money on the line, when you're playing a little golf 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.320 with your boys. Um, probably a little bit more nervous 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.840 when than my hitting, because at least hitting I feel 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:32.680 like I'm prepared for it. Golf, I think I'm more 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:36.000 prepared for it than I really am so growing up 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.919 in Newport Beach, California. I mean, to come out of 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:45.760 a huge Southern California rich baseball history. You've got amazing teams, 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:47.720 and you know, you grew up a Dodger fan. You've 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.160 got the padres and stuff. But I always think that 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.080 when you look at kids that come out of big, urban, 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:58.440 dense populated areas from a sports standpoint, to to get 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.520 to the top of that wrong in in Los Angeles 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.719 and Southern California. To make it from that big of 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:09.119 an area too, the Major League, I mean, that's gotta 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.720 be really, really difficult because there's so many kids playing 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.880 competitive baseball. You know, it's just like golf, you know. 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.039 I think, you know, the you know, the best players, 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.719 they end up they're doing something different, you know. And 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.400 I'm not saying I did something different when I grew up, UM, 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.520 but I think I gradually just got better every year. 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:29.560 And I think that was what was really important for me, 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.000 you know. You know, I think that, like you said, 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.520 there's a lot of great players from Orange County, UM, 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.200 but I think the best thing I ever did when 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:38.000 I was a young player was playing with guys older 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:39.559 than me. Right, you always want to play with people 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:41.960 better than you or because I feel like they pushed 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.520 you to another level. You know, I always had the 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.520 opportunity to do that. Um, I think I you know, 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:48.640 I read something where I think it was Rory was 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:50.720 always playing with you know, guys that are little older 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.640 than him, better than him, and that made him better. Um. 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:55.279 I think that's a huge thing. And that's kind of 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:56.920 what I did in baseball, you know, I you know 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:58.480 it was. It was humbling, you know what I mean. 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.280 I got I got beat up while I was own it. 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.160 But it taught me a lot about the game and 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:03.640 taught me that I had to I had to keep 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.960 growing and finding ways to get better. So when did 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.520 you have that? I'm always interested when I talked to 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.480 athletes from other sports. When did you have that kind 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:16.200 of moment where you thought, Okay, I think I have 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:19.080 a legit chance to try and do this as a profession. 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.560 Because I mean, obviously, as a golf instructor, I get 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:25.320 so many young players, um, guys, girls that come in 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:26.960 with their parents and say, listen, I want you to 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:30.520 take a look at my Sonnies fourteen fifteen sixteen. He 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:32.840 wants to try and make a career, wants to try 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:34.760 and play on the PGA Tour, wants to try and 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.880 be a professional golfer, and and so I think everybody 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.800 kind of thinks that they want to do that. When 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:44.599 did you have that moment to where you're like, Okay, 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:48.400 this is this is legit have has a chance to happen. Now, 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:52.120 I think, you know, probably my senior year high school. 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:55.559 You know, I I was doing these showcases and playing 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.600 with a lot of great players that were well known 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:01.080 around you know, the nation. You know, you play showcases 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:04.160 with players that you know, you see online that are that, hey, 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:05.840 this guy is supposed to get drafted high, or this 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:09.080 guy is supposed to getdrafted high. And uh, you know 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:10.880 what I realized when I was playing with those guys 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:12.600 that you know, in my heart, you know, at the time, 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.200 they were probably a little more advanced than me, but 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.360 I didn't think that that much better than me. So 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:18.400 I always felt like, Okay, well, if these guys are 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.240 going to be the elite guys or the first rounders 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:22.800 and all that, and I feel like I could play 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:24.920 just as good as them. If not, I'm right there. 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:27.320 I don't see why I can't be that guy. Also 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:30.240 and you know, obviously I've had a good senior season 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:33.080 and I played well when I played good in showcases, 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.920 and there was rumors with me getting drafted, and you know, 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:37.920 I wanted to play pro ball at high school. I 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:39.440 didn't really want to go to college. I was willing, 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.000 and obviously we used that as leverage rights so you 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:43.480 can get a better deal on all those things. But 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:45.360 you know, I wanted to go play pro ball. That 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:47.960 was what I wanted to do. Um. But I that's 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:49.600 when I first noticed that, like, okay, I could play 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:51.640 with these guys. And uh, you know, it's a self 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.200 sense of confidence that I felt like, Okay, these guys 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.160 are the ones that get drafted high I think I 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.920 could do it. I always look at kids when I 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.720 look at them, Nolan, and kind of you know, you 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:06.000 get the parents do a lot of the talking. Um. 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.360 You know, you ask kids questions. You know, high school 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:10.080 can say, tell me about your game that mom, the 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:13.040 dad they answer, And I always said you to the kid, no, no, 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:14.960 I don't want to hear your dad's answer. I want 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:18.320 to hear your answer. Um. Growing up, were you a 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:23.120 were you self motivated? Were you someone that wanted to 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.520 go and practice and play. Or were you the kid 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:28.160 that the parents were really involved and they said, listen, 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:29.960 you've got to do this, You've got to practice, you've 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:31.960 got to do that. What kind of kid were you 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.760 and what were what were the things growing up that 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:38.800 motivated you as an athlete to continue? Like said, because 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.520 I always say to players, listen, the most important thing 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.520 if you're trying to play at any level in golf 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:48.040 or in sports is just to get better every year 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.440 if it's one, two, three percent. But as you know, 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.600 you can't have a year where you get five percent 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.840 worse because other people are going to pass you. So 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.160 when you were younger, were you self motivated? Did the 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.760 motivation come did you have mentors? Where did that come 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.160 from that helped you get to the level that you're 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:09.720 at now? Yeah, you know, I think, you know, I 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.080 was very fortunate that my parents loved the game and 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.160 they you know, I was very fortunate that they would 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:15.520 you know, my dad would always be willing to go 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:18.120 throw and hit me ground balls and and work. But 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:22.000 he never, he never you know, got on me about working. 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:23.800 I always loved working on the game, you know. I 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.440 always loved taking ground balls, I love hitting I love, 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.319 you know, all those things. Obviously, you need someone to 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.720 help you out also, so I had teammates and buddies 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:32.160 that was willing to do it. My brothers. I was 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.320 fortunate to have two brothers that were always down to 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:37.840 go play and work. Um, the thing I needed a 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.360 good pushing for. I needed a good push was like 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:42.280 in the weight room, making sure I'm getting my body ready. 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:43.960 You know, always needed a trainer to watch me and 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:45.640 push me. You know, sometimes I would get little lack 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:47.840 of daisy bom there because I just want to go 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:49.440 hit and take ground balls. But there's more than just 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.280 hitting and taking ground balls. You gotta make sure your 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:52.960 body is ready to go. I know, when you're young, 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.240 you can get away with it, but you know I 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.160 still want to You still gotta get stronger. When you're younger, 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.240 you have a chance to get a lot stronger and 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:02.400 you know, quick her or what more explosive. But I 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:04.200 love working on the game. I love hitting off the 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:06.920 t you know, I think, you know, I think what 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:09.400 I've noticed when I watched you know, documentaries on Michael 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:13.400 Jordan's or Tiger Woods or Derek Jeter. You know, these 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.720 guys love the game and they love working on it. 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:17.319 They never saw it as work, you know what I mean. 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.360 So I think that's something that I feel like I 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.240 always wanted to be like that, just like I love 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.560 working on it. And that's kind of what how I 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.040 how I took it. Were there I know, I know 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.760 in golf you talked to players you know that are 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:33.280 playing now on on the PJ Tour or European Tour 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.240 wherever they're playing, and I always asked them, listen, who 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.240 were the Were there any studs that you played with 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:42.360 as a junior that you thought, there's no way this 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:44.520 kid can't make it? And every single one of the 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:46.360 players that I know we got there was this kid. 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:48.240 He was unbelievable, he was this, he was that in 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:50.600 the other and he and he didn't make it. And 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.760 that's the other thing. NO want to see so many 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:58.080 junior golfers, athletes that are and I'm sure you've seen this, 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.920 they're better when they're fifth, teen, sixteen than they are 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:05.960 when they're eighteen, nineteen and twenty. Is there anything you know, 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.440 You've been around the sport, you know, professional sports for 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.920 so long, is there anything that you see that you 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.079 think separates it? Because I see so many kids that 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.559 you know, they're good junior golfers, they go to Division 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.320 one college and then they just they just get whatever 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:21.240 it is. They get sidetracked. Maybe they don't want to 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.800 work that hard. Maybe the motivation didn't come from them 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.839 and it came from other people. Um. Does that happen? 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:31.240 Have you seen that happen in baseball as well? Absolutely? 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:33.520 I think I think that. You know, I remember when 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:35.240 I was younger. You know, guys would be a little 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:38.000 bit taller and me stronger, um, and it was intimidating. 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.000 You're like, man, this guy's already strong, he's already throwing 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.320 way harder than I am. But you know, I think 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:45.760 putting in the work, you have to continue to put 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:49.080 in the work. Um, and the love the game, you know. 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:51.880 I think sometimes can people get complacent, they get distracted 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:53.719 with other things. But if you really love the game, 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:55.760 you'll find a way. I mean I wouldn't, you know. 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:58.079 That's the thing. Sometimes it could tear people down, and 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.160 you see guys that are way better than you at 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.839 a young age, but there's so much more time. You know, 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:04.920 people don't understand that, Hey, there's a lot of time left. 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.240 Like keep pushing, don't worry about it right now, like 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.160 you know, And I think, like you said, you know, 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.920 that's a huge thing. You know. I think guys just 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.320 get caught up in not wanting to put in the 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:18.520 work and uh and the guys that are younger maybe 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:20.600 not as fast or as good at the time, they 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.440 end up catching up, you know what I mean. Yeah, 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:26.000 I mean I think that if you are one of 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:29.760 those kids or juniors when you're playing, that you don't 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:34.880 maybe have some of the the naturally gifted things like size. 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:36.680 I mean, there are just some kids when you're younger 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.040 that you're playing, you're just like, this guy's already like 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:41.319 three or four ft. I mean, he's already he's already 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.679 much taller than I am. He's bigger than I am, 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.680 and stuff like that. Um, when I watched the Little 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:48.840 League World Series, there's always that one kid on the 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:52.160 team that's like a giant. You've got all these young kids, 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.400 they all look like, you know, eleven, twelve year old, 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.360 and then you've got the kid that's twelve and you're 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:59.240 like that kids like nineteen. There's no way that kid 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:05.520 is size, right. Um, So when you were working as 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:10.920 a kid, how much of your time was devoted to sports. 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.880 How much of your time was devoted to going to school? 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:16.400 Because I think that's another thing, know, that's so hard 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:20.680 for young athletes, regardless of the sport. They're trying to 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:24.200 figure out this balance of they have to go to school, 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:26.880 they have to practice. And one of the things that 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:30.080 I see that so many, you know, junior golfers I 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:34.120 work with, they have no life. They either are playing, practicing, 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:38.080 or they're going to school. And I'm always telling the 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.600 juniors that I work with golf wise, Hey, listen, I 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:42.720 know it's gonna sound crazy, and I say this to 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.520 the parents as well. Your kid needs an off day, 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:49.520 he needs one month, one weekend a month where he 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.280 just doesn't do anything. Did you find that as well, 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:55.760 that it's easy to get just so burned out that 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:57.880 when you're growing up, it just it seems like a 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:00.559 job and you get to nineteen, like, listen, I just 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.000 don't want to do this. Yeah, I think that's a 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.040 huge problem. You know, I know, I know I've heard 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.920 of kids, young kids getting like Tommy John surgery already. 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:09.800 You know. The one thing I was always like, which 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:11.559 is insane to me, And you know, I was fortunate 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:13.559 my dad never let me throw a curveball or a slider. 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.240 He always said, like, if you throw a curveball slider, 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:17.280 you're gonna be taken out of the game. So I 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.680 always had to throw fastballs or changeups, and I would 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.760 get shelled, you know, because those two pitches can't get 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:24.520 people out really, you know, and literally because they're you know, 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:26.360 the differentition on the moss pri hour isn't that much. 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:27.840 I don't know what I'm doing, you know, you're throwing, 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:29.720 and I would get upset because I'm like, I gotta 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:31.280 throw something else, you know. But I would would let 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.440 me because he's trying to protect me. But you know, 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:35.920 I think obviously school is really important. You know, you 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.160 gotta take care of your school. You know. My parents 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:39.880 always said like, hey, make sure you take care of 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:41.840 school and then you could practice and you know, do 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:43.200 your stuff. But if you're not doing good in school, 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:44.920 we're not gonna let you go play. So that was 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:46.400 kind of like, all right, well, I got I better 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.160 do good in school or because I'm not able to 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:51.040 play baseball. Um but I see a lot of that too, 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.840 kids getting burned out. You know. I was always fortunate 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:58.640 because my dad always before school started, UM, August was 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.400 the month where I got off. I would play all 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.800 the way until you know, August, and once August was there, 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:06.640 I would August would be off like go summer, go 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:08.640 to the beach with your friends, get away, you know how, 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:12.680 enjoy your time away. And then when school started in September, UM, 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:14.200 then it was like all right, back to work and 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:16.440 get back to school and get on that routine again. 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.000 But um, August was my month off, and I was 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:20.840 very fortunate for that because I would play all the 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.120 way until August, and I would be like, I'm over it, 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:24.320 you know what I mean, Like I don't want to 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:26.360 you know, I need to take a little break. So 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:28.840 August was my month off, and it was awesome because 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.080 when you take time off, you realize how much you 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:32.320 love the game, because you're like, man, I kind of 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.520 miss playing. I want to get back out there, you 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.120 know what I mean. And if you don't feel that way, 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:37.520 you don't feel like you want to get back out there, 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.200 then I don't know if that's a good sign. And 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.640 I also think that for athletes, you need to have 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:46.440 that that compartmentalized thing to where you say, okay, the 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.920 season is now for the off season. Now I'm gonna 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:51.360 work my ass off. This is my work. I'm gonna 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:53.760 play the season out, and then I know that I'm 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.960 going to get a break so I can recharge and 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:00.240 then come back. Because I've heard so many golfers say, 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:02.600 you know, listen, I remember one of the guys that 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:04.120 was the best of that. Back in the day when 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:07.000 I used to work with Brooks kept Brooks would always 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.960 around after a major, either after the the Masters of 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.360 the U S Open, he would plan like three weeks 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.720 where you say, listen, I'm gonna take three weeks or 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.080 a month off, and he would be like, I'm so 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.920 looking forward to that month off. I'm gonna really bust 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.640 my ass for the next two three weeks, get through 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:26.840 this two as well as I can, and then really 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.480 get that break. And he always tended to play really 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:33.840 well when he came back from a pretty extensive break 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:37.400 because he came back refueled and kind of re energized, 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:39.760 and like you said, he was like, man, I really 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:44.160 missed playing. I missed practicing and playing. Yeah for sure. 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.880 I mean, um, even after the season when I'm done 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.600 playing baseball, even now, you know, I always take time 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.640 off go golf serve, go to the beach whatever, take 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:54.440 away time from the weight room, gym and all that. 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.880 But then they gets to a point where you're like, allright, 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.000 I missed it, I missed the work. I want to 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.080 get back in there. And I think that's usually when 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.000 I find myself in my better spot. You know, there's 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.760 times where I end this season not as good as 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:08.840 I wanted, or I was kind of frustrated with the 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.680 way I went, so I like, you know, I took 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:13.840 a like very little time, less time than when I 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.360 usually played well, and then I would work work, working 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:18.399 it almost kind of like I didn't really love it, 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:19.760 you know. I was like kind of getting burned, like 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:21.479 burned out working so much, you know what I mean. 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.760 And then I go in the season like I'm kind 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:25.880 of tired, like, you know, not tired, but like I'm like, man, 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.240 I'm not like fully like fresh and locked in like 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.439 I should be. So I think it's really important to 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.200 take time a waste so you could get that edge 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:34.800 again of like all right, it's time to get after it, 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:36.679 you know what I mean. So your stand out in 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:41.560 southern California, um, the Colorado Rockies, UM, when you got 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.679 that kind of call. You you knew that you were 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:50.120 going to get into a Major League Baseball teams system. 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.399 What was that like and what we're What was the 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.960 thought on the day that had happened for you? Is 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:58.240 it just you knew what was going to happen? Was 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.880 it relief? Was it excite? Meant? What was it? Well? 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:03.399 It was it was a little bit of relief, but 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:05.240 it was excitement, you know, like the journey is going 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:08.439 to begin. Um. I was just so stoked, you know, 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:10.200 you know, you put all that work in and to 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:14.040 finally get that opportunity, it's it's extremely tough and uh 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:18.000 it was such a big deal. Um but uh, you 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:21.320 know I uh and scared to right, You're a little scared, like, 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:23.280 oh man, it's about now, it's about to go down, 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:25.320 Like now I gotta do something. Now, I really gotta 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.439 do it, you know what I mean. So, um, So 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.000 it was a lot of fun. But you know, I 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:32.800 whenever I get nervous or scared, I always got back 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:34.920 to my work, right, the work I put in, So 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:38.440 that always helped. So let's take a short break and 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:44.880 we will be back right after this. All right, let's 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:49.879 get back to the interview. How long did you play 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.800 in the minor leagues before you Yeah, I mean you 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:59.239 major league major league debut April. So from playing you 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:02.639 know all in high school too, when you started and 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.600 got to the major leagues. What was that time period? 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:08.240 How long did you stay in the minors. I was 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.040 in the minor leagues from I got drafted in two 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:14.520 thousand nine. I went to rookie ball and then I 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:18.080 got called up in uh two weeks in Triple A. 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:21.119 So you know, I went to every level rookie ball, low, A, high, double, 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:24.200 at Triple A. UM, so about four years, you know 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:26.359 what I mean. And that's usually what it is for 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:30.000 high school guys, maybe longer. UM. I mean everyone's different, right, everyone. 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:33.600 It just matters who developed quicker, who doesn't, you know. 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:36.040 And but you know, during those times and the miners, 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:38.480 you know, there's times I played really well and I 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:41.240 had a lot of there was times I got really 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:44.760 you know, beat up, you know, mentally physically, you know, 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:47.000 just really tough. You know. Double A was the biggest 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:48.680 tester for me, right because they always say the best 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.680 players are in double A, like that's the closest thing. Yeah, 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:53.840 they always say double as the closest thing as far 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:55.800 as like big league talent like this you could tell 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:58.520 and double a like certain guys are gonna be dudes. 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:00.000 You know you're like, all this guy's gonna you could 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.439 tell like he's he's on his way. Um. And you 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:06.320 know that was the first time my face pictures like consistently, 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:08.520 you know, almost in I was like, Wow, this is 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:10.360 the next level. Like if this is what the big 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:13.280 leagues like I got, I got a long ways to go. UM. 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:16.560 So I think that's what you learn. And but you know, 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:18.360 I'm very thankful for those times. You know, those things 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:20.760 pushed me, they made me better. They were tough in 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:22.680 the moment, but they got me to the level where 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:25.520 I'm at today. One of the things Nolan, I always 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:27.960 say to the golfers that I'm lucky enough to work 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:29.879 with the specially of the juniors. I always say, listen, 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:32.560 in order to make it to the next level, whatever 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:34.200 the next level is, you want to go from high 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:36.560 school and play college golf. You want to go play 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:38.679 college golf and try and play professional and then you 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:41.480 want to hopefully one day play on a tour somewhere. 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:47.639 You have to have a quantifiable visible strength and I 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:49.719 think a lot of golfers, and I think a lot 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:51.720 of athletes thinks, you know, I'm just gonna try and 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:54.760 get good at everything. And like you said, you were 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:59.440 a great hitter, but you were an unbelievable field or 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:03.320 great third basement and stuff. Does that strength that you 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:07.840 have he's that. Do you think that's natural or do 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:11.320 you think that's something you know, your defensive skills in 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:13.160 the field as a third basement. Do you think that's 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:16.200 just something that through hard work, dedication, you just learned 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:19.960 that and that kind of became your calling card. Absolutely, 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:21.800 I think that. I think it was hard work. You know. 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:23.520 I when I got drafted, a lot of teams were 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:26.480 thinking about draft me as a catcher, um because I 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:29.200 didn't move well. Um. And some teams were thinking about 0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:31.920 moving me back there because I showcase when I was 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:33.400 in high school. I tried to showcase that I could 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:34.720 catch and play there because I was just trying to 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:36.960 get my draft status up and try to get drafted higher, 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:39.840 you know, doing everything I can to get drafted higher. Um. 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:41.760 But deep down, I didn't want to play catcher because 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:44.240 that's a really hard position and I just didn't want 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:45.520 to do it. I didn't want to do it. I 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:48.840 wasn't ready for that and UM, but I had to 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:51.000 really work to get become a better third basement. I 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:53.480 had a lot of coaching. I went to There's this 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:56.560 thing called Instructs that after the season into my leagues, 0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:58.240 you go there for like three weeks to get like 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:00.600 it's like almost like a mini spring training before pen training, 0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:03.000 to get like extra work in. I went to every 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:05.480 single one while I was in the minors, basically UM 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:08.919 to like get extra work in UM and UH. I 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:11.679 think that's what set me different. And I always had 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:13.639 good hands. I always had a good arm, but my 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:16.080 feet were terrible. I was a little slow, little overweight, 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:18.240 like all those little things. I had to really take 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:21.520 serious in the off season. And because they would, they 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:22.960 would tell you like, hey, man, if you don't clean 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:25.320 this up, we've got to find another spot. So it 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:27.240 was kind of a you know, a little wake up call. 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:29.199 But it was something that helped change me because I 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:30.880 was like, man, I'll take this, you know, I'll take 0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:34.000 this challenge, and I feel good about it. I read 0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:35.800 that when you were in the minor leagues, one of 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:39.080 the things that that helped change you and transform you 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:42.359 and get you The next level was your footwork, working 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:45.880 on you know, stuff that probably you know the same 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:48.000 thing that I always say to two golfers and you know, 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:51.080 short games stuff, all the stuff that's in glamorous, you know, 0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:53.960 for you as the third base and working on probably 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:56.040 stuff that feels like you're learning how to walk again. 0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:59.760 But it is so vital to play the position that 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:04.320 you play. Yeah, for sure, absolutely, I U yeah, man, 0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:06.920 I mean I would go. We would have early groundballs 0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:10.080 at like one o'clock every day in the minors, the 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:11.680 games at seven, you know what I mean, Like I 0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:13.280 would have to be there early to work on it, 0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:15.920 work on my footwork. The off season was strictly like 0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:20.359 strength training and agility work. Um, I had. I had 0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:22.119 a fine ways to get better. There's no doubt. I 0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:24.160 couldn't just continue to do what I was doing because 0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:26.560 that wasn't gonna work. I had to like change the 0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:28.960 whole thing. And uh, you know, I think a lot 0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:31.240 of them were surprised by that, but it made me 0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:33.720 a better player. And you know, I was fortunate. You know, 0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:35.800 I had, like Troy to Lewitsky, who was the best 0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:37.320 shorts up in the game at the time, and he 0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:39.600 was on the rockies and he would tell me like 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:42.080 or he would say, you got to take pride to defense. 0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:44.840 You gotta get quicker, like you know you're not you're 0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:46.359 not fast enough for this league, you know what I 0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:48.280 mean basically, And you know I would take you know. 0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:50.560 It didn't hurt my feelings as I was like, you 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:52.240 know what, he's right, because like when I saw him, 0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:53.920 I was like, I'm nowhere near that, so I better 0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:56.240 start getting my work in. When you say you weren't 0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:59.000 a great hitter, and I'm always fascinated because I think 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:00.960 as you as you said earlier, the golf swing and 0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:03.960 the baseball swing have a lot of similarities in that 0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:07.639 you're starting from a static position. Okay, obviously baseball you're 0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:10.480 reacting to where the pictures throwing it or the way 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:13.160 you think they're throwing it. But there is I don't 0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:17.200 think people realize there is a tremendous amount of technique 0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:20.960 that goes into hitting, and in the same way that 0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:23.840 there is a tremendous amount of technique that goes into 0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:28.520 swinging a golf club. How did you get better as 0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:31.800 a hitter and what were the things that when you 0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:35.080 started that you feel like we're keeping you back from 0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:39.560 being a better hitter that you eventually became. When I 0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:42.200 got called up my rookie year, I was getting really 0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:44.600 beat up with the inside pitch, like they were jamming me. 0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:46.280 I wasn't you know, I wasn't able to pull the ball. 0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:48.240 I wasn't able to show them that you can't go 0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:50.679 in there anymore. You can't you can't keep jamming me. 0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:54.000 You can't keep you know, breaking my bat whatever, you know. 0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:56.480 And so that offseason I went home and I was like, Okay, 0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:57.879 I need to learn to pull the ball better, Like 0:24:57.880 --> 0:24:59.040 I need able to get the ball in the air. 0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:01.159 And I play up as a shi where they expect me, 0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:04.440 expect me to drive in runs, hit home runs, and 0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:06.080 I need to start doing a better job of that. 0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:09.280 And what I learned was that, you know, I I 0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:11.520 just got to the off season and I worked on 0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:13.640 staying back they're able to pull the ball in the air, 0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:18.159 and uh, you know, working counts having better at bats, 0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:19.520 you know what I mean, Because when you're young player, 0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:21.440 you just go to swing. You know. I was chasing hits, 0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:23.640 you know, I said, And whenever you're chasing hits, that's 0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:24.960 the worst thing you can do. The best thing you 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:26.800 can do is make sure the process is right and 0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:28.720 just focus on hating the ball hard and stuff like that. 0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:30.320 But I was chasing hits, and when you chase hits, 0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:32.280 it usually doesn't happen. I'm guessing I don't know what 0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:35.560 the resemblance for golf would be, but you know, you know, 0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:37.119 it's like if you're like, I better get a birdie 0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:39.359 here and you don't, it's like depressing, Like I don't know, 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:41.840 that's like hitting it. I don't get hit here. I'm 0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:43.520 you know, that's a bad way to go up to 0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:44.520 the plate. You know. I gotta go up to the 0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:46.719 plate with a plan, and I had to learn that. 0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:49.000 But I think once I showed that I could pull 0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:51.119 the ball in the air, they kind of change everything 0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:52.760 for me. So when they next year when they were 0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:54.160 throwing me inside, I was able to pull the ball, 0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:55.880 and then they're like, okay, we can't go there or more. 0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:58.320 Now we have to expose something else. It's just a constant, 0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:00.919 it's a constantly of adjustments. Man. I mean, once I 0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:02.280 showed that I could pull the ball, and then they 0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:03.679 go away and then I'm like, I show that hit 0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:06.040 the ball the other way. It's just you're constantly adjusting. 0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:09.760 But I had to really changed like my swing, my approach, 0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:14.919 my mental everything. So um. Obviously with the Rockies, you 0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:18.760 guys had hitting coaches, very similar to the role that 0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:20.880 I have with tour players, where we're like, we're looking 0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:23.520 at the swing, we're looking at the stroke, and they 0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:25.560 can come in and say, hey, listen, I mean, do 0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:27.600 you guys do hitters? I mean, do you guys use 0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:31.520 videos of yourself when you're looking at you know, you're hitting, 0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:34.600 You watch a lot of you know, footage. What are 0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:37.160 you looking at to try and and what is the process, 0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:39.840 like you said, to make yourself a better hitter. It's 0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:41.840 the same process that someone's trying to become a better 0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:45.439 ball striker and golf. So the processes. You have a 0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:48.320 group of people on your team at the Rockies. Now 0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:50.920 you're with St. Louis the Cardinals, you guys have hitting 0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:52.560 coaches and they look at it and say, Okay, I 0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:55.640 think you could do this, I think you could do that. Yeah. 0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:57.479 I mean we've come a long way. I mean when 0:26:57.520 --> 0:26:59.359 I first got hold Up, it was like strictly video, 0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:01.520 you know, from the video from the side, watching the 0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:03.879 mechanics make sure everything's dropping in the right way, all 0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:06.280 those little things. But now we have like track man, 0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:08.560 um hit tracks and all those little things. I know 0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:10.960 golf uses the same thing. But that's been a big 0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:14.040 help for me. You know, when I was younger, and 0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:16.439 when you're younger, you could just hit, hit, hit, you know, 0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:18.120 soon or later. I feel like I was gonna find 0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:20.000 it for feel. But as I've gotten older, you know, 0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:22.080 my body moves differently and I've got to like really 0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:24.960 focus on the video and see where I'm at. Um. 0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:27.000 Track Man's helped me out a lot the last few 0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:30.480 years because I've been I've been really seeing from the side, 0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:32.479 like making sure my bat barrels up, making sure I'm 0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:34.600 getting in my legs, make sure I'm dropping in the 0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.200 right way, um. Because and baseball, you know, you want 0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:38.359 to drop in the zone. You want to be in 0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:40.200 the zone a long time, and that was like a 0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:43.040 big key for me, and uh, years of the past, 0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:45.520 like I wasn't doing that, um and I was. That's 0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:49.000 a big focus of mine. But I think that's been huge. 0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:52.320 The track Man has been enormous because you know, I know, 0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:54.119 I remember when I was when we went to the 0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:57.000 Girl that one day DJ was working you know, ball 0:27:57.000 --> 0:28:00.600 speed right like or or swing maybe swing speed, and 0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:02.320 I really paid it. I was like, man, that's crazy, 0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:04.159 because that's something I've been really focused on this offseason. 0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.440 Swinging faster, because it's the faster you swing, hit the ball, 0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:09.800 hit the ball harder, more fee, whether the ball goes 0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:12.080 all those little things. And last year I didn't hit 0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:13.320 the ball as hard as I did this year. And 0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:15.280 then you if you see the numbers there, you know 0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:17.159 I've been a way better ball player this year the 0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:20.520 player last year, because I believe swinging faster, hand the 0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:23.119 ball harder, more miles per hour, you know, the chances 0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.520 of hits when you're hitting the ball harder or drastic. 0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.800 So I just as I've gotten older and that you know, 0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:31.879 you're trying not to get two paralyzed with analytics and 0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:33.520 stuff like that. But there's definitely a lot of things 0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.600 that have shown me a lot we're we're in this 0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:38.680 as you mentioned, I mean, golf is in the same 0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:44.360 age that you're in now. I think, um analytics, data information, 0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:48.640 it plays such a huge part of professional sports. The 0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:51.240 club that I'm out here in Florida, the Floridian, is 0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:53.640 owned by Jim Crane. I go to a lot of 0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:55.880 games with Jim. He takes me down, you know, when 0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.080 we go to the Astros games, he takes me, you know, 0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:00.360 into where the dug. But I was amazing. He took 0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.080 me back into this room where there's just computers and 0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:04.600 I said, what does this He goes, this is kind 0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:07.400 of the film room. It's just off of where you know, 0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:09.280 the locker room is just so if a new picture 0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:11.720 comes in, the guys can go in and look at 0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:15.480 We've got video and data and all of that. How 0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:19.800 do you, as a player, Nolan, find that balance between 0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:24.720 how much information you're taking in versus you know, being 0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:28.640 able to still have what is kind of your instincts 0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:32.000 and your your kind of touches and fields based off 0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:35.360 of Because I remember Jim told me a great story once. Um, 0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:40.400 the year they won the World Series. Um, the manager 0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:43.880 a j You know, Jim played competitive baseball. You know, 0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:46.800 I think he was gonna an All American at Southern 0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:49.120 Missouri and he played baseball. And he said to a 0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:53.160 j Listen, we're going to spend more money on analytics 0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:56.240 and anybody in the league. But if you, as the 0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:59.280 baseball guy, believe that this is the right decision to 0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:03.400 make from just a pure instinct baseball and the data 0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.880 tells you to do something else. Jim said, I will 0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:09.600 never beat you up if you followed your baseball heart 0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:13.960 versus your information analytics care because the end of the day, 0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:18.360 baseball is what we're playing. We're not playing analytics. Yeah. Yeah, 0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:21.840 I mean that's a great question. I mean, that's that's 0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:23.680 so important because I think it's one of you gotta 0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:26.200 know who you are, you know what you do. You know, 0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:28.560 if you if you're trying to be somebody else because 0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:30.040 the analysts tell you that you need to be the 0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.200 certain guy that that's usually when it doesn't turn out 0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:33.880 very good. Know who you are it would be the 0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:37.040 main one. But I think it could paralyze you when 0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:40.840 you know. I think sometimes like we've gotten analytics down 0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:43.120 so much that we know percentages of pitches being thrown, 0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:45.200 you know what I mean, like the picture we're facing, Like, hey, 0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:48.160 the percentage of this and discount or this and that. 0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:51.280 That's all great and dandy, but that's sometimes like just 0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:53.160 because he does it to him, doesn't mean he's gonna 0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:54.720 do it to you either, right, I mean, I mean, 0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:56.440 I remember I faced the picture this year. I won't 0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:58.280 I don't want to say his name, but you know 0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:00.600 he threw change ups two person ended that he's going 0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:02.600 to change up two percent of the time. This year, 0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:06.880 he's been strictly fastball, slider, curveball. I go up there, 0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:09.200 he gets me out on a changeup, you know what 0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:11.200 I mean. And I went up there thinking, no, I'm 0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:12.640 not eve gonna look for the changeup. It's two percent 0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:14.880 at a time, of course, right, but but he threw 0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:16.280 it to me and he got me out. Next to bat, 0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:17.880 he threw it again. He got me out. So like 0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:20.120 you're like, man, like, I don't want to you know, 0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:23.040 it all depends on who you are. But it's just crazy, like, man, 0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:25.280 the numbers like they say they won't do it. And 0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:27.280 I'm not blaming the numbers, because you've gotta take your chances. 0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:30.000 Like it was pretty drastic, the slider, curveball, fastball, Like 0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.000 you gotta realize that that's what he does. But it's 0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:34.480 just so funny, how like it might not turn out 0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:36.880 the way you want. And I think I think it 0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:40.960 paralyzes you when you're so focused on what the numbers say, 0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:44.200 you know, how hard or how the numbers say. You know, 0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:45.480 I think at the end of the day, you do 0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:47.240 have to have to feel you just gotta play the 0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:48.840 game as hard as you can and know who you are. 0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:51.920 But I've been really I've changed the way I've looked 0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:55.360 at things the last few years because of how advanced 0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:58.200 the games are and how advanced these pictures are. And uh, 0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:00.280 I've learned from gold Schmidt, Paul Goldschman. He has really 0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:02.280 helped me a lot with like him and like the 0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:04.719 percentages are, how really high on this? So we have 0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:08.160 to focus on this, and I've been doing it. Um. 0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:11.560 But you know, sometimes they approach guys differently. But I've 0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:14.520 really been learned a lot this year with all the 0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:16.880 numbers and analytics and all that, and you know, the 0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:18.880 videos on the pictures and all that. When he throws 0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.400 in certain towns, it's been it's been really interesting. Something 0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:23.880 I never really used to rely on, but with how 0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:26.280 good these guys are nowadays, I've been really focused on it. 0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:29.479 When we when we play golf that day, Um, at 0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:31.640 the grove, you're watching DJ and you know, DJ is 0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:33.480 one of you know, watching a driver is one of 0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:35.840 the coolest things that he just stands there and hammers 0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:37.760 driver and he hit one drive and you just kind 0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:39.400 of looked at me and laughed and went, man, that's 0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:41.680 so cool. When you hit a home run, right when 0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:44.160 you're standing up on the plate and you hit rue 0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:46.760 and you catch it, you know, what does that feel? 0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:49.680 I mean, do you feel anything or does it feel 0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:54.760 like it doesn't even touch the bat and it's just gone. Yeah. Well, 0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.120 first off, any homer is the best feeling in the world. 0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:59.680 That's what That's what I think is. Um, it's the 0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.920 best only in the world. Um, there's nothing like it. 0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:05.400 But yeah, it's almost like you didn't really you know, 0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:07.840 you hit the sweet spot. You just feel like it 0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:09.720 doesn't feel like really anything. It doesn't feel like you're 0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:11.640 getting you know, I don't explain it, but yeah, you're 0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:13.360 squaring it up and you can just see the way 0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:15.480 the ball trajects like trajects in the air that it's 0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:18.280 just it's gonna go out good back spin. Um, there's 0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:20.640 no better feeling, you know, hitting a home run. Um, 0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:24.240 I've always said that, and uh um, but you know 0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:26.320 it's hard to back spend the baseball, that's for sure. 0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:28.120 But when you do it, man, I'm saying, there's nothing 0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:30.280 like it, and doing it in big moments of school 0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:32.920 runs and win games. I mean, like I said, there's 0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:35.080 no better feeling in the world. I mean, you've had 0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:37.840 almost three hundred home runs in the Major League, so 0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:41.280 you're pretty good at doing it. Um, we could talk 0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:44.520 about baseball all day. Golf, I know, it's something that's 0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:47.000 you know, you're you're really passionate about. It's a big 0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:49.800 part of your life. Um, how did you get into 0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:53.320 golf and and why did you get into golf? Yeah, 0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:55.560 when I was in a my dad always played golf 0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:57.000 when I was younger, and I always would go mess 0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.200 around with him, go play, and uh, you know, in 0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:01.280 double A, I got my first set of clubs because 0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:03.000 a lot of my boys got a lot of I've 0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:05.520 always got clubs, and uh so I was like, oh, 0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:07.000 I'm gonna take it serious. You know, I'm gonna buy 0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:09.239 my set clubs. I'm gonna get you know, I'm gonna 0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:11.359 I'm gonna go play a lot. I wasn't very good 0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.239 for a while, but I love the game of golf, 0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:16.360 and then I slowly just got better. Every year every offseason, 0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:18.759 I would just practice practice. Then I finally joined the 0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:21.360 country club. You know, like as I because when I 0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:23.080 thought I was actually good enough to join a country club, 0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:25.959 that's when I joined the country club. Um, and then 0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:29.279 you know I could be able to go practice, go play. Um. 0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:31.360 But I love the game of golf just for the 0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:35.600 sake of like it's such a competitive sport. Um. You know, 0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:37.719 when baseball season is over, you know, I mean you 0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:40.759 know you you still need that drive, that competitiveness, you know, 0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:42.840 like you almost like it's like addicting in a sense, 0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:44.640 like you gotta go compete. Like I can't just go 0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:46.560 nof season just like I'm not gonna go do nothing, 0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:48.719 Like I need to compete somehow, somehow, a way, you know. 0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:51.920 And golf is that outlet for me. And uh, I 0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:53.680 love doing it with my my all my brothers and 0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:55.600 my cousins. We all play. Hey, so it's a pretty 0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:59.799 cool experience. What is the current handicap right now? I 0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:02.919 got down to a three point to this offseason. Yeah, 0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:06.479 I got down hit it really good. Yeah. I didn't 0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:08.359 play good at the Grow, but I was nervous playing 0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:11.960 with Dustin and Ricky and those guys there. I was nervous. 0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:14.160 And I'm not gonna Florida Golf with the wind. I 0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.000 usually don't. I'm not very good. I'm not that good 0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:18.600 to play through that stuff. Um, but you know, I 0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.120 got down pretty good this offseason. I've been playing a lot. 0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:23.320 I would do lessons. You know, I was really focused 0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:26.319 on my putting. I did a putting lesson, um, because 0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:31.040 I don't like missing putts, and uh, but I love it. Yeah. 0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:33.680 I got down to a three one this offseason, and uh, 0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:35.880 probably right now I'm like at four. But you know, 0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:39.440 we'll see where I'm at. Do you remember the first 0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:43.160 time you broke part I've only done it. I broke. 0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:47.759 I broke part one Emerald Dunes in Florida, and I 0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:51.160 played really well, and uh, I shot one under and 0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:53.920 I was I was on fire. I was, oh man, 0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:56.400 it was awesome. But the last hole I needed to 0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:00.919 I needed a part. And because there's a part five 0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:03.000 before the part four, I went in the bunker and 0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:05.279 I went back in the bunker. After a couple of swings, 0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:06.839 I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm about to blow this 0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:09.279 round right now. I was nervous. I was like, no ways, 0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:11.319 this about to happen. And then I got out of 0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:12.759 there with a bogey and then I was like, okay, 0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:17.919 I'm one under. I gotta be able to last whole. 0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:19.160 And I was a little bit off the green. I 0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:22.120 put it within, gimmea range, and I made it and 0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:24.680 it was I was so nervous though, but it was awesome. 0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:28.360 I mean it's amazing. You know, you you've played baseball, 0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:32.280 you you've hit home runs in front of fifty six people. 0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:34.720 You know, that type of noiance and stuff. I'm always 0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:39.200 fascinated that that non golfers better athletes. I mean, you're 0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:42.359 feeling the pressure to break par for the first time. 0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:45.000 What was the feeling like you did you drive home 0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:48.760 and were you just like, man, I've actually done it. Yeah. 0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:50.640 I mean I was so excit. I called my dad 0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:52.480 right away. I was like freaking out, you know, I 0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:54.080 was so pumped up. I called my dad, My dad, 0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:55.719 do you want you want to believe I shot one 0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:57.759 under today? You know? And he was all fired up 0:36:57.760 --> 0:36:59.920 for me. I told all my boys, but I call 0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:01.360 my dad like when I got called up to the 0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:03.640 big leagues, basically like, hey, I'm getting called up, Like 0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:05.359 I shot one under and I called him like, dude, 0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:07.960 I shot one under today and it was pretty awesome. 0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:11.640 And the guys I played with were great. Um, but uh, 0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:13.799 the course is fun too. But yeah, man, I was. 0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:16.799 I was. That made my whole weekend that weekend. I 0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:19.359 don't think anything made me upset after that. Let's take 0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:27.320 a quick break and we are back. You mentioned you 0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:31.080 you you played with d j um rickey. Um. When 0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:33.520 you look at those guys and obviously you're you're coming 0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:36.359 to it from you know, sport that you know you're 0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:37.960 one of the best in the game, and when when 0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:41.200 you look at them, what stands out to you that 0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:42.839 you look at when you watch any of the player 0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:45.080 I'm gonna know you've played with, you probably played in 0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:46.840 pro ams before and stuff like that, But when you 0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:52.279 watch professional golfers as a professional athlete, what is what 0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:56.040 stands out to you that you go, wow, that's that's 0:37:56.160 --> 0:38:00.480 really really cool. Yeah. Well, first, just what I was 0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:02.839 amazed with Dustin. You know, I remember that one part 0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:04.719 five with the wind blowing in. He played like a 0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:06.560 little cut and then you get a three wood through 0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:09.160 the wind right on the green for eagle, Like I 0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:11.759 was just more like, I mean, I'm not I don't 0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:13.440 think I've ever seen anything. I've never seen anything like 0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:15.719 that as far as how big, how long that hole 0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:17.520 was playing, and how he knew like I'm gonna play 0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:19.839 cut over here with the three wood, it's gonna come 0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:22.080 right back on the green. And the ball moved like 0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:23.640 it was hit so far and then it moved a 0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:25.440 lot and it was right on the green. And I 0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:27.480 just amazed. You know. It's just like I know people 0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:30.399 are amazed with as we're playing baseball, but just being 0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:32.720 able to play. Like what I know is with Dustin 0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:33.880 when he was doing he was aiming at like the 0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:35.920 smallest spots where to hit the ball. I know, the 0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:37.480 first hole, he would like, go right to the bunker 0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:40.000 because that's a good look into the hole, and like 0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:43.279 I'm just trying to get in the fairway. He's like no, 0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:45.640 and he's aiming at the smallest area where I can 0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:49.000 get it where the best. And that's I guess that's 0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:51.319 the difference, right, is that they they do they're trying 0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:53.600 to do the little things and get in the best spot. 0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:55.959 I'm just trying to make sure I have a decent look, 0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:58.440 you know. And I was just amazed by those little things, 0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:01.920 you know, and the confidence, the chipping, the drives were 0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.960 amazing that you can play a cut in a draw. Um, 0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:06.799 you know, I play with Fred Couples one time, and 0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:08.719 I've got to know Fred a little bit and he's 0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:11.279 a friend. And uh, he was amazing too. You know 0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:13.600 how smooth and easy he was. He was making cuts 0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:16.560 from nice and from huge, but his swing was unbelievable. 0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:18.960 I'm like, man, this is this is insane. I mean, 0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:21.560 how how easy he's making this look. But you know 0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:23.520 what I love too is that you know, I know 0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:26.000 they're having fun, but you know, you could tell it's 0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:27.640 just like the US baseball players. You don't like taking 0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:29.759 a bad swing. Nobody's happening when it doesn't feel right, 0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:30.920 you know what I mean. You're like, no, that's not 0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:33.759 what I'm looking for. You know, it's there's there's similarities there. 0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:35.200 You know, if I was hitting batting practice and I 0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.200 took a bad swing, I know it's only one swing, 0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:39.360 but I'm still like, I don't like that, you know 0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:41.040 what I mean. And that's what with them too. They're 0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.920 the same way. It's pretty cool. Did you say, um, no, 0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:46.239 one all the strengths of your game right now from 0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:48.920 golf standpoint, and where do you feel like you can 0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:52.080 make some improvements and and and help get you, you know, 0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:54.840 the ideal world. I mean, I'm guessing the goal for 0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:56.839 you would be to be a scratch golfer, right, get 0:39:56.880 --> 0:40:00.239 down to scratch. So yeah, that's you know, you're a three. 0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:02.200 I mean the amount of people that are three handicaps 0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:05.160 that play golf, I mean they're not. You think there's 0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:07.680 a lot of them, They're there's really not. So what 0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:09.680 do you think, um, what are the strengths? What do 0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:10.840 you say, Okay, I know I have a lot of 0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.239 confidence in this, and what are the areas for your game? 0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:15.440 Did you feel like, okay, I could get better at this? 0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.359 I think driving obviously, driving accuracy. You know, I want 0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:20.680 to learn to play a draw off the drive. I 0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:22.399 used to play a cut, you know, the baseball swing. 0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:24.200 We stay inside, and so I kind of just carry 0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:26.120 that over to golf and it works all right. But 0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:29.040 I would love to play a draw. Um, and all 0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:31.719 the players draw, All the hockey players draw, and all 0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:35.600 the baseball players really hit the cut. All the hockey 0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:39.040 players all draw, like I've I've yet to see one 0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:42.880 hockey player that doesn't draw it because obviously they're staying. 0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:45.640 They have to have their lower body be very very stationary, 0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:48.200 and then it's a lot of arm movement and that 0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:52.239 the swing comes more from around the body as a 0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:54.959 hockey player. So all of the hockey players fight the hook. 0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:58.399 And I mean it's a generalization, but over the years, 0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:00.279 all the hockey players I've ever seen, they all fight 0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:04.520 the hulk, and all the baseball players fight the slice. Yes, exactly. Um, 0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:10.440 that's crazy golf my drives putting obviously, and then shipping. 0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:12.480 You know, I this is this is the first offseason 0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:13.840 I learned to like chip and be able to like 0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:17.080 stop it on the green. Um. Obviously I bladed a 0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:19.000 lot of those, but the times I did it right, 0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:22.200 it was it was really key for me. Um. But 0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:24.480 those are the big things, the driving, the chip, the 0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:26.640 short game. And then I feel like my irons are 0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:28.080 pretty good. You know, I feel like I keep it 0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:29.960 in the fairway. I could, you know, I could hit 0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:32.560 the greens pretty good. But I mean, at the end 0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:34.239 of the day, you know, it's it's like anything you 0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:35.919 feel like the game is not good enough. I feel 0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:38.160 like I gotta get it all better. But if I 0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:41.480 could keep my drives in in in the fairway and 0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:43.680 give myself a good look, I feel like I could score, 0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:44.840 you know what I mean. I feel like whenever I 0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:47.000 have my best rounds, it's usually when i'm driving all 0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:49.839 the best. You mentioned hitting to where you said listen. 0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:52.759 You know, sometimes if you're trying to get hits, you're 0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:54.359 not going to get hits right. And I think one 0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:57.239 of the similarities between hitting and and golf is, you know, 0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.080 we always say the players, listen, if you can just 0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:01.440 get the bull and play off the team, regardless of 0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:03.560 how far that is, right, but get the ball in 0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:07.160 playoff the team hit more fairways. Obviously your confidence goes 0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:09.839 up in the feel, but the game becomes so much 0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:13.280 easier the more that you can keep the ball and play. 0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:16.239 And I think everybody I always say the players listening 0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:18.359 to if you come to me and say listen, i'm hitting, 0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:23.359 you know, tend to twelve fairways around. I just don't 0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:27.360 hit it far enough. That's a different conversation. So the 0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:29.919 idea being that if you can get the ball and play, 0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:33.640 don't necessarily try and and and go for this. Just say, listen, 0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:35.440 let me get this in play. And I've got an 0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:38.200 iron in my hand from the short grass from pretty 0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:42.080 much normally probably a fairly flatish lie. It makes the 0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:45.279 game and scoring a hell of a lot easier than 0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:46.840 when you're trying to chip out and you're trying to 0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:49.800 go through the trees and all of that. For sure. Absolutely, 0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:51.680 I've been through a plenty of trees, that's for sure, 0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:54.200 so I know about that. But yeah, I mean, like 0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:55.759 I said, my best rounds I've ever had in my 0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:58.239 life or usually when I'm in the fairway, have a 0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:00.799 good look at the green and uh, like I said, 0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:03.120 doesn't happen a lot, but when it does, that's usually 0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:06.839 when I play my best. Favorite golf courses that you've 0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:08.480 got the player there any golf courses that you've got 0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:10.400 to play there like that? That's unbelievable. What are some 0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:13.439 courses that are on your bucket list that you would 0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:17.279 like to play? Uh? Best course I ever played? Uh? 0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:25.920 I thought Pebble was one. Um, unbelievable. Spyglass was really fun. Um, 0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:29.560 the Bears Club was great, the girls that the experience 0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:34.160 that the grow is great. Um, Pebbles, Pobby up there. Um. 0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:36.400 The one I want to play is probably Whistling Straights 0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:39.920 to St. Andrew's is I've never been able to. I've 0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:41.640 never played there, but I would love to go play that. 0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:44.239 That looks like an unbelievable time. Did you watch a 0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:46.800 lot of golf on TV? I do? I do. I 0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:49.680 watched a lot of golf. I watched Zalaturus yesterday. That 0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:52.600 was unbelievable finish. I was sweet, But I do. I 0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:55.560 always come home watch golf. Um. It's great because Sunday 0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:57.840 we always have a day game mostly some most Sundays, 0:43:57.840 --> 0:43:59.520 you know, Somendays you play Sunnight Baseball, but most day 0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:02.720 games you play us on Sunday. So I'm always pumped 0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:04.640 up that after the game I can get home and finish. 0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.520 Like usually the golf is usually about to finish, you know, 0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:09.160 it's always like the last few holes, so it's always 0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:11.200 kind of close. So I always recorded and I always 0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:14.080 get back home to watch it. That's I mean. I've 0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:16.520 talked to so many people that are non you know, 0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:19.840 not golfers, and they say, oh, man, I take the golf. 0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:22.600 I watched golf on my phone. I watch it all. 0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:26.239 Are you a YouTube golf person? Are you on? Are 0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:29.040 you online trying to figure out look at different things 0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:30.919 or do you kind of have your kind of group 0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:33.719 of coaches that you stick with. Yeah, I know, I 0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:37.040 for sure gone YouTube watch a lot of time. I 0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:39.719 gonna watch a lot of Tiger videos. Phil Us do 0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:41.960 some shipping lessons on there. I would be trying to 0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:44.719 find out about um. Like I said, I got to 0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:46.359 know friend. I got to know DJ a little bit. 0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:48.279 So sometimes I'll send him videos like, hey man, what 0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:52.080 you got for me? This is not good. I don't Yeah, 0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:54.520 I don't don't sut him videos. Send m send him 0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:56.440 to me. He ain't gonna know right I should send 0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:59.719 him to you. He's got no clue. Honestly, it's it's 0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:03.720 a amazing how how It's a little bit like you know, baseball. 0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:07.240 I mean, trying to tell someone how you do something 0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:10.840 in baseball, you know, getting into your brain and eventually 0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:14.480 I mean, I remember Michael Jordan. We were talking to 0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:17.360 Michael about something and they're asking if some about some 0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:19.000 play that he did and what he was thinking. He 0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:21.400 was like, I don't even know how I did that. 0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:24.040 I just did it right. I think golfers are pretty 0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:26.560 I mean, there are are a couple of golfers professionals 0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:28.800 I've been around, that are good at kind of telling 0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:31.360 players what to do, But most professional golfers are the 0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:34.839 worst people to ask because they don't know how they 0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:36.600 do it. You know, yess when you say that, because 0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:38.200 whenever people ask me, like man, how did you hit that? 0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:40.000 Or like what what are you thinking about your swing? 0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:41.480 And I'm always like, man, I don't know, you know. 0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:44.440 I'm just trying to trust my instincts and trust the 0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:47.440 work I put in. But I usually when I'm at 0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:49.080 my best, when I'm playing well, I really don't even 0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:51.759 know what to say. It's crazy how that works for 0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:55.080 a lot of those sports. I love that. Lastly, in 0:45:55.280 --> 0:46:01.040 twenty two, Nolan, no social media for you? Social media 0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:04.799 free as one of the best players in baseball, Hey, 0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:09.640 athlete in the public domain? Is that a conscious choice 0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:13.600 to not do that? Yeah? It is, you know. I uh, 0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:16.000 I'm not against it in any way. Actually, I think 0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:19.759 it's extremely valuable for a lot of people. UM, just 0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:22.000 not me, I guess, you know. I I like to 0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:26.040 keep things private. I like to um, I just don't 0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:28.560 want to get caught up in certain things that go 0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:30.279 on on there. And I know there's a lot of 0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:33.160 trash talking, certain things and things that people say, and 0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:35.920 I don't need that in my life. I like, I 0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:37.640 like kind of just keeping my life private and not 0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:39.839 getting caught up up in a lot of things like that. Um, 0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:42.160 Like I said, I think it's actually a very valuable tool, 0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:44.920 you know. I think it's really great. But for me, 0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:47.759 I don't know. I've never done it. I just I 0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:50.080 don't know. Man, I really don't have the main great 0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:52.400 explanation other than I just keep things private and I 0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:55.280 don't like to share too much now. I mean, listen, 0:46:55.680 --> 0:47:00.120 I think it's it's refreshing to hear someone that that 0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:02.640 isn't caught up in all of it. Um. Coming into 0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:05.560 the off season, Now, how many days a week you're 0:47:05.560 --> 0:47:07.120 gonna start playing golf? Give it to me. Come on 0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:11.120 at least three to four. Um, at three to four, 0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:14.280 for sure, I'll be out there, um grinding. It's funny 0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:15.840 because after the baseball season, the golf game is not 0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:17.440 quite there. So I'll be on the range for a 0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:19.000 few hours to see if I can get it right 0:47:19.040 --> 0:47:21.279 in a few days. Because my boys want to play 0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:23.719 and there's some money to be one and I want 0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:27.560 to make sure I'm winning it. So in future, don't 0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:31.200 message d J ricky on on your golf swing. Send 0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:34.520 them to me. We'll take care of that. I appreciate that, 0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:36.759 and thank you. I really appreciate you talking to us. 0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:39.120 I think, I mean, listen. I think there's so many 0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:41.759 similarities between golf and baseball, and so anytime I can 0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:44.799 get a chance to talk to someone like yourself about baseball, UM, 0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:48.040 it's fascinating. I could I could talk to you about kidding. 0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:49.520 I mean, I could talk to you about that all day. 0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:52.160 So we'll get together next time you're down to Florida. 0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:55.160 Let's get together and place some golf and uh, enjoy 0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:57.520 the off season. I appreciate it. Thanks so much for 0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:04.360 having me. I appreciate it. Thanks. So I want to 0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:08.040 thank Nolan for coming on the pod and UH, listen, 0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:10.920 you guys have heard me say it before. That's part 0:48:10.960 --> 0:48:12.520 of the reason why I did the podcast. Talk to 0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:15.480 people that, UM love golf, and let me tell you 0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:21.160 that guy is a golf junkie. So this week Lives 0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:26.759 finale in Miami, UM, I think, listen, whether you're a fan, 0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:29.440 whether you're not a fan. UM, it's been a pretty 0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:33.120 interesting ride. I think for everybody involved with Live and UM, 0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:35.759 I think if you'd told everybody last year at this 0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:38.600 time that Live would be doing what it's doing, having 0:48:38.640 --> 0:48:42.520 the players at scott Um having the tournaments UM all 0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:44.400 around the world and having the winners it's had, I 0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:47.400 think everybody would be surprised. So should be an interesting 0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:52.239 uh end to the live season and be interesting to 0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:56.040 see what happens a big big break. UM. I think 0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:59.120 lives starts back up again in February, so they get 0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:06.520 an actual offseason. Rory McElroy one UH at Congary went 0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:09.200 back to number one in the world. Um, and just 0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:13.560 what a what a dominant performance by Rory has this 0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:17.200 uncanny ability when he gets kind of near the lead 0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:20.160 to birdie three holes in a row. Okay, made a 0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:23.919 couple of bogies coming in, but um, yeah, just such 0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:27.200 a dominant, dominant performance. It's been a hell of a year. 0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:29.080 I think everything that Rory has been dealing with is 0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:33.800 kind of being the de facto spokesperson for the PGA 0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:36.880 tour UM, but the play the way he has played, 0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:40.200 because honestly, we played DJ played a practice round with 0:49:40.320 --> 0:49:44.239 with Rory UM at the British Open, and I mean 0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:47.600 you could see that, um, you know, kind of being 0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:52.880 this spokesperson for the PGA tour um, you know, everything 0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:55.920 that that Rory has been under pressure wise. You could 0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:58.080 see it. I mean you could see it weighing on him. 0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:01.400 I mean he looked tired. UM. And but I mean 0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:05.319 the guy is just such an amazing golfer and when 0:50:05.400 --> 0:50:08.680 he is in full flow, when he I mean he is, 0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:10.560 he looks like he was born with a driver in 0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:13.279 his hand. And uh, you know, I'm a huge fan. 0:50:13.440 --> 0:50:16.200 I love the way he plays golf and when when 0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:19.759 he's on, um, you know, he's almost he's almost hard 0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:22.000 to beat. UM. There's a few guys like that, and 0:50:22.120 --> 0:50:25.680 he is definitely one of them. But interestingly, UM, you 0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:28.319 know I just mentioned that liv gets almost four months 0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:32.000 off and Rory um talking about, you know, after his 0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:35.160 win that he thinks there should be a longer break 0:50:35.719 --> 0:50:37.320 in the fall for the p G A Tour. I 0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:39.399 know a lot of players have talked about that. Um, 0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:43.080 that's been being talked about by all the big stars 0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:47.560 UM for quite some time. UM, them wanting and needing 0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:51.120 an offseason the live guys get it. And then you've 0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:53.399 got Rory McAuley saying that the PGA Tour guy should 0:50:53.440 --> 0:50:58.359 get it as well. So, UM, pretty interesting times. UM, 0:50:58.880 --> 0:51:02.120 you know, Rory, at the beginning of this year, you 0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:04.359 know it always looks like you know, he's the guy 0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:09.000 to beat, but then you know he misses cuts, isn't winning, 0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:11.120 and then all of a sudden he just starts banging 0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:13.799 out wins like the Rory of Olds. So it would 0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:16.640 be interesting to see with a pretty lengthy break when 0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:20.319 he comes back and plays, UM back to world number one, 0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:24.760 And UM, you know next year, what do the official 0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:28.560 World Golf rankings UM look like? Are their changes? UM? 0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:31.799 Do the live guys get points? UM? If the live 0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:34.960 guys don't get points and you've got players like camp 0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:38.800 Smith and Dustin Johnson, UM and Brooks kept a winning 0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:43.920 on live, UM, I think they could win anywhere in 0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:46.360 watching the way that they've been playing. UM. And I 0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:49.880 think it would be really interesting, UM what actually happens? 0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:54.680 What three is going to look like for professional golf? 0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:58.879 But UM interesting times and UM I'm excited to see 0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:03.279 UM how of this week's team competition pans out? UM. Listen, 0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:07.160 I'm I worked with three players that play on on 0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:09.439 live and two of them are on the same team 0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:13.680 in Pat Perez and Dustin Johnson. And one of the 0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:18.879 things that I think is being massively, massively UM overlooked, 0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:22.440 and UM a lot of people just don't even come 0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:26.120 close to understanding is UM. The team part of of 0:52:26.280 --> 0:52:32.040 Live is it's very very real. UM. And I'm only 0:52:32.120 --> 0:52:35.000 saying that because I've watched it, I've witnessed it up 0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:40.560 close and UM, really seen it for real and it's UM. 0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:43.080 The guys love it. The guys who are invested in it, 0:52:43.239 --> 0:52:46.839 the guys are UM. They're constantly talking about it, and UM, 0:52:47.160 --> 0:52:50.920 I think it should be an interesting weekend. I want 0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:54.439 to thank everyone for listening. We We've got a bunch 0:52:54.520 --> 0:52:58.440 of great guests, a bunch of past episodes that are fantastic, 0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:01.480 and if you haven't taken a look at some of 0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:03.440 the stuff we've done in the past, go check it out. 0:53:03.600 --> 0:53:07.359 And UM, I think you will get a lot out 0:53:07.400 --> 0:53:09.920 of it, and I think you will enjoy listening to 0:53:10.120 --> 0:53:12.400 some of the guests that we have had. Son of 0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:15.439 a which comes to you every Wednesday. We will see 0:53:15.480 --> 0:53:16.040 you next week.