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Speaker 1: It's the Son of a Buch podcast. We come to

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Speaker 1: you every Wednesday. The World Series starts this week here

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Speaker 1: in America, and I figured we would get a baseball

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Speaker 1: themed guest. Nolan Arnado, third baseman for the St. Louis Carlinals,

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Speaker 1: one of the best players in baseball. I got a chance,

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Speaker 1: um to play golf. He uh. He was in town

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Speaker 1: down a Jupiter. We played at the Grove with DJ

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Speaker 1: and Ricky Fowler a couple of months ago. And UM,

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Speaker 1: I mean you talk about a golf junkie. Um, this

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Speaker 1: guy lives breeze, eat, sleeps golf and we had a

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Speaker 1: great day and and talked about get him on the

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Speaker 1: podcast and listen. I always like talking to other athletes

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Speaker 1: and and hearing about how they play their sport, Um,

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Speaker 1: what it takes to play their sport, because obviously that's

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Speaker 1: kind of the world that I live in in golf.

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Speaker 1: So UM to get a chance to talk uh to

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Speaker 1: Nolan and to hear him talk not only about baseball,

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Speaker 1: but um about his passion for playing golf. UM, I

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Speaker 1: think it's always cool. And you know, sports, whether it's golf,

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Speaker 1: whether it's baseball, whatever sport it is, anytime you can

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Speaker 1: talk to an athlete and kind of get their process.

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Speaker 1: I think it crosses over into how athletes approach their

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Speaker 1: sports UM. And I think you can learn a lot

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Speaker 1: from listening to other athletes talk about not only golf,

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Speaker 1: but the way they look at their sport. And Uh,

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Speaker 1: I think you guys will get a lot out of

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Speaker 1: this interview. Before we get to that, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: talk about our partner for wellness. Listen, you guys hear

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Speaker 1: me talk about I'm a huge fan of the coffee

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Speaker 1: UM on the road this week and have their energy

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Speaker 1: bites with me as well, which UM on the golf course.

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Speaker 1: When I'm at a tour event, I really don't have

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Speaker 1: that late in the afternoon, you know, to three o'clock, UM,

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Speaker 1: breakfast starting to wear off. So UM, go check them out,

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Speaker 1: Go check out the coffee, the good stuff. UM. It's

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Speaker 1: part of my daily routine when I'm home, and I

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Speaker 1: think everybody will really really like it. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: get to the interview with Nolan. Alright, my guest today

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Speaker 1: Nolan Arnado. I hope I've pronounced that correctly six times,

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Speaker 1: our seven time All Star, nine time Golden Glove, one

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Speaker 1: of the best third basement in the game, and a huge,

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Speaker 1: huge golfer. We met, full disclosure, we met at the grove.

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Speaker 1: Um played some golf with DJ UM, So definitely gonna

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Speaker 1: talk to you for your love of golf. But um,

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Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated Nolan to get an opportunity to talk

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Speaker 1: to players from other sports. Um. I think baseball and

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Speaker 1: golf have a lot of similarities in the way they're

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Speaker 1: kind of specific disciplines, individual kind of positions. Um. Do

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Speaker 1: you see a correlation between the sports that you play

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Speaker 1: baseball and obviously the sports you'd like to play in

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Speaker 1: the off season and for fun golf? Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think both of them take years off your life

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Speaker 1: because they're so tough. Huh. But that's how I feel like,

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Speaker 1: But no, I'm just taking I'm just joking. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I think, Um, there is a lot of big correlation

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Speaker 1: golfers for you know, being able to move on from shots, right,

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Speaker 1: you gotta be able to move on from my bats,

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So that's something that I really noticed, um,

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Speaker 1: and I just have a whole lot of respect for them.

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Speaker 1: So obviously, question what's harder hitting a ninety mile an

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Speaker 1: got to make a good, good drivers swing. What's harder? Um? Wow,

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Speaker 1: baseball is the hardest thing to do. Man. For me,

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Speaker 1: so I think that's harder. But I can't hit a

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Speaker 1: players are in double A, like that's the closest thing. Yeah,

427
00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,840
Speaker 1: they always say double as the closest thing as far

428
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,800
Speaker 1: as like big league talent like this you could tell

429
00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 1: and double a like certain guys are gonna be dudes.

430
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 1: You know you're like, all this guy's gonna you could

431
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,439
Speaker 1: tell like he's he's on his way. Um. And you

432
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,320
Speaker 1: know that was the first time my face pictures like consistently,

433
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, almost in I was like, Wow, this is

434
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,360
Speaker 1: the next level. Like if this is what the big

435
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 1: leagues like I got, I got a long ways to go. UM.

436
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 1: So I think that's what you learn. And but you know,

437
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm very thankful for those times. You know, those things

438
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 1: pushed me, they made me better. They were tough in

439
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,680
Speaker 1: the moment, but they got me to the level where

440
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm at today. One of the things Nolan, I always

441
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 1: say to the golfers that I'm lucky enough to work

442
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,879
Speaker 1: with the specially of the juniors. I always say, listen,

443
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 1: in order to make it to the next level, whatever

444
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,200
Speaker 1: the next level is, you want to go from high

445
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 1: school and play college golf. You want to go play

446
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,679
Speaker 1: college golf and try and play professional and then you

447
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 1: want to hopefully one day play on a tour somewhere.

448
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 1: You have to have a quantifiable visible strength and I

449
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,719
Speaker 1: think a lot of golfers, and I think a lot

450
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 1: of athletes thinks, you know, I'm just gonna try and

451
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 1: get good at everything. And like you said, you were

452
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 1: a great hitter, but you were an unbelievable field or

453
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 1: great third basement and stuff. Does that strength that you

454
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 1: have he's that. Do you think that's natural or do

455
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 1: you think that's something you know, your defensive skills in

456
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 1: the field as a third basement. Do you think that's

457
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 1: just something that through hard work, dedication, you just learned

458
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 1: that and that kind of became your calling card. Absolutely,

459
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 1: I think that. I think it was hard work. You know.

460
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: I when I got drafted, a lot of teams were

461
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 1: thinking about draft me as a catcher, um because I

462
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 1: didn't move well. Um. And some teams were thinking about

463
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 1: moving me back there because I showcase when I was

464
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 1: in high school. I tried to showcase that I could

465
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 1: catch and play there because I was just trying to

466
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 1: get my draft status up and try to get drafted higher,

467
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 1: you know, doing everything I can to get drafted higher. Um.

468
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 1: But deep down, I didn't want to play catcher because

469
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: that's a really hard position and I just didn't want

470
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Speaker 1: to do it. I didn't want to do it. I

471
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: wasn't ready for that and UM, but I had to

472
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 1: really work to get become a better third basement. I

473
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 1: had a lot of coaching. I went to There's this

474
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 1: thing called Instructs that after the season into my leagues,

475
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Speaker 1: you go there for like three weeks to get like

476
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: it's like almost like a mini spring training before pen training,

477
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: to get like extra work in. I went to every

478
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Speaker 1: single one while I was in the minors, basically UM

479
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 1: to like get extra work in UM and UH. I

480
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 1: think that's what set me different. And I always had

481
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 1: good hands. I always had a good arm, but my

482
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: feet were terrible. I was a little slow, little overweight,

483
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: like all those little things. I had to really take

484
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Speaker 1: serious in the off season. And because they would, they

485
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: would tell you like, hey, man, if you don't clean

486
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: this up, we've got to find another spot. So it

487
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 1: was kind of a you know, a little wake up call.

488
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Speaker 1: But it was something that helped change me because I

489
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Speaker 1: was like, man, I'll take this, you know, I'll take

490
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Speaker 1: this challenge, and I feel good about it. I read

491
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Speaker 1: that when you were in the minor leagues, one of

492
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Speaker 1: the things that that helped change you and transform you

493
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 1: and get you The next level was your footwork, working

494
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 1: on you know, stuff that probably you know the same

495
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: thing that I always say to two golfers and you know,

496
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: short games stuff, all the stuff that's in glamorous, you know,

497
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: for you as the third base and working on probably

498
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: stuff that feels like you're learning how to walk again.

499
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Speaker 1: But it is so vital to play the position that

500
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Speaker 1: you play. Yeah, for sure, absolutely, I U yeah, man,

501
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean I would go. We would have early groundballs

502
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: at like one o'clock every day in the minors, the

503
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: games at seven, you know what I mean, Like I

504
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: would have to be there early to work on it,

505
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: work on my footwork. The off season was strictly like

506
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: strength training and agility work. Um, I had. I had

507
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: a fine ways to get better. There's no doubt. I

508
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 1: couldn't just continue to do what I was doing because

509
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: that wasn't gonna work. I had to like change the

510
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: whole thing. And uh, you know, I think a lot

511
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: of them were surprised by that, but it made me

512
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: a better player. And you know, I was fortunate. You know,

513
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: I had, like Troy to Lewitsky, who was the best

514
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: shorts up in the game at the time, and he

515
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: was on the rockies and he would tell me like

516
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: or he would say, you got to take pride to defense.

517
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Speaker 1: You gotta get quicker, like you know you're not you're

518
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: not fast enough for this league, you know what I

519
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: mean basically, And you know I would take you know.

520
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: It didn't hurt my feelings as I was like, you

521
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: know what, he's right, because like when I saw him,

522
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm nowhere near that, so I better

523
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: start getting my work in. When you say you weren't

524
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: a great hitter, and I'm always fascinated because I think

525
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: as you as you said earlier, the golf swing and

526
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: the baseball swing have a lot of similarities in that

527
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: you're starting from a static position. Okay, obviously baseball you're

528
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: reacting to where the pictures throwing it or the way

529
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 1: you think they're throwing it. But there is I don't

530
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: think people realize there is a tremendous amount of technique

531
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: that goes into hitting, and in the same way that

532
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: there is a tremendous amount of technique that goes into

533
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: swinging a golf club. How did you get better as

534
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: a hitter and what were the things that when you

535
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: started that you feel like we're keeping you back from

536
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: being a better hitter that you eventually became. When I

537
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: got called up my rookie year, I was getting really

538
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: beat up with the inside pitch, like they were jamming me.

539
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't you know, I wasn't able to pull the ball.

540
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: I wasn't able to show them that you can't go

541
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 1: in there anymore. You can't you can't keep jamming me.

542
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: You can't keep you know, breaking my bat whatever, you know.

543
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: And so that offseason I went home and I was like, Okay,

544
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: I need to learn to pull the ball better, Like

545
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: I need able to get the ball in the air.

546
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: And I play up as a shi where they expect me,

547
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: expect me to drive in runs, hit home runs, and

548
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: I need to start doing a better job of that.

549
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: And what I learned was that, you know, I I

550
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: just got to the off season and I worked on

551
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: staying back they're able to pull the ball in the air,

552
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, working counts having better at bats,

553
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Because when you're young player,

554
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: you just go to swing. You know. I was chasing hits,

555
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 1: you know, I said, And whenever you're chasing hits, that's

556
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: the worst thing you can do. The best thing you

557
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: can do is make sure the process is right and

558
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: just focus on hating the ball hard and stuff like that.

559
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: But I was chasing hits, and when you chase hits,

560
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: it usually doesn't happen. I'm guessing I don't know what

561
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: the resemblance for golf would be, but you know, you know,

562
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: it's like if you're like, I better get a birdie

563
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: here and you don't, it's like depressing, Like I don't know,

564
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: that's like hitting it. I don't get hit here. I'm

565
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: you know, that's a bad way to go up to

566
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: the plate. You know. I gotta go up to the

567
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,719
Speaker 1: plate with a plan, and I had to learn that.

568
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: But I think once I showed that I could pull

569
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: the ball in the air, they kind of change everything

570
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: for me. So when they next year when they were

571
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 1: throwing me inside, I was able to pull the ball,

572
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: and then they're like, okay, we can't go there or more.

573
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: Now we have to expose something else. It's just a constant,

574
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: it's a constantly of adjustments. Man. I mean, once I

575
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: showed that I could pull the ball, and then they

576
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: go away and then I'm like, I show that hit

577
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: the ball the other way. It's just you're constantly adjusting.

578
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: But I had to really changed like my swing, my approach,

579
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: my mental everything. So um. Obviously with the Rockies, you

580
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: guys had hitting coaches, very similar to the role that

581
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: I have with tour players, where we're like, we're looking

582
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: at the swing, we're looking at the stroke, and they

583
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: can come in and say, hey, listen, I mean, do

584
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: you guys do hitters? I mean, do you guys use

585
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: videos of yourself when you're looking at you know, you're hitting,

586
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: You watch a lot of you know, footage. What are

587
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: you looking at to try and and what is the process,

588
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: like you said, to make yourself a better hitter. It's

589
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: the same process that someone's trying to become a better

590
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: ball striker and golf. So the processes. You have a

591
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: group of people on your team at the Rockies. Now

592
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: you're with St. Louis the Cardinals, you guys have hitting

593
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: coaches and they look at it and say, Okay, I

594
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: think you could do this, I think you could do that. Yeah.

595
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,479
Speaker 1: I mean we've come a long way. I mean when

596
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: I first got hold Up, it was like strictly video,

597
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, from the video from the side, watching the

598
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: mechanics make sure everything's dropping in the right way, all

599
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: those little things. But now we have like track man,

600
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: um hit tracks and all those little things. I know

601
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: golf uses the same thing. But that's been a big

602
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: help for me. You know, when I was younger, and

603
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: when you're younger, you could just hit, hit, hit, you know,

604
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: soon or later. I feel like I was gonna find

605
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: it for feel. But as I've gotten older, you know,

606
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: my body moves differently and I've got to like really

607
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: focus on the video and see where I'm at. Um.

608
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: Track Man's helped me out a lot the last few

609
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: years because I've been I've been really seeing from the side,

610
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,479
Speaker 1: like making sure my bat barrels up, making sure I'm

611
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: getting in my legs, make sure I'm dropping in the

612
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: right way, um. Because and baseball, you know, you want

613
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: to drop in the zone. You want to be in

614
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: the zone a long time, and that was like a

615
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: big key for me, and uh, years of the past,

616
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: like I wasn't doing that, um and I was. That's

617
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: a big focus of mine. But I think that's been huge.

618
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: The track Man has been enormous because you know, I know,

619
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: I remember when I was when we went to the

620
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: Girl that one day DJ was working you know, ball

621
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Speaker 1: speed right like or or swing maybe swing speed, and

622
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: I really paid it. I was like, man, that's crazy,

623
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: because that's something I've been really focused on this offseason.

624
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: Swinging faster, because it's the faster you swing, hit the ball,

625
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: hit the ball harder, more fee, whether the ball goes

626
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: all those little things. And last year I didn't hit

627
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: the ball as hard as I did this year. And

628
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: then you if you see the numbers there, you know

629
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: I've been a way better ball player this year the

630
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: player last year, because I believe swinging faster, hand the

631
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: ball harder, more miles per hour, you know, the chances

632
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: of hits when you're hitting the ball harder or drastic.

633
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: So I just as I've gotten older and that you know,

634
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: you're trying not to get two paralyzed with analytics and

635
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But there's definitely a lot of things

636
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: that have shown me a lot we're we're in this

637
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, I mean, golf is in the same

638
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Speaker 1: age that you're in now. I think, um analytics, data information,

639
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: it plays such a huge part of professional sports. The

640
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Speaker 1: club that I'm out here in Florida, the Floridian, is

641
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Speaker 1: owned by Jim Crane. I go to a lot of

642
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: games with Jim. He takes me down, you know, when

643
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: we go to the Astros games, he takes me, you know,

644
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: into where the dug. But I was amazing. He took

645
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: me back into this room where there's just computers and

646
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: I said, what does this He goes, this is kind

647
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: of the film room. It's just off of where you know,

648
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: the locker room is just so if a new picture

649
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: comes in, the guys can go in and look at

650
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: We've got video and data and all of that. How

651
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: do you, as a player, Nolan, find that balance between

652
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: how much information you're taking in versus you know, being

653
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: able to still have what is kind of your instincts

654
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: and your your kind of touches and fields based off

655
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: of Because I remember Jim told me a great story once. Um,

656
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: the year they won the World Series. Um, the manager

657
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: a j You know, Jim played competitive baseball. You know,

658
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: I think he was gonna an All American at Southern

659
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: Missouri and he played baseball. And he said to a

660
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Speaker 1: j Listen, we're going to spend more money on analytics

661
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: and anybody in the league. But if you, as the

662
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: baseball guy, believe that this is the right decision to

663
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: make from just a pure instinct baseball and the data

664
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Speaker 1: tells you to do something else. Jim said, I will

665
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: never beat you up if you followed your baseball heart

666
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: versus your information analytics care because the end of the day,

667
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: baseball is what we're playing. We're not playing analytics. Yeah. Yeah,

668
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean that's a great question. I mean, that's that's

669
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: so important because I think it's one of you gotta

670
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: know who you are, you know what you do. You know,

671
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: if you if you're trying to be somebody else because

672
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: the analysts tell you that you need to be the

673
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: certain guy that that's usually when it doesn't turn out

674
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: very good. Know who you are it would be the

675
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: main one. But I think it could paralyze you when

676
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: you know. I think sometimes like we've gotten analytics down

677
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: so much that we know percentages of pitches being thrown,

678
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like the picture we're facing, Like, hey,

679
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: the percentage of this and discount or this and that.

680
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: That's all great and dandy, but that's sometimes like just

681
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: because he does it to him, doesn't mean he's gonna

682
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: do it to you either, right, I mean, I mean,

683
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: I remember I faced the picture this year. I won't

684
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to say his name, but you know

685
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: he threw change ups two person ended that he's going

686
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: to change up two percent of the time. This year,

687
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: he's been strictly fastball, slider, curveball. I go up there,

688
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: he gets me out on a changeup, you know what

689
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: I mean. And I went up there thinking, no, I'm

690
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: not eve gonna look for the changeup. It's two percent

691
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: at a time, of course, right, but but he threw

692
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: it to me and he got me out. Next to bat,

693
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: he threw it again. He got me out. So like

694
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: you're like, man, like, I don't want to you know,

695
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: it all depends on who you are. But it's just crazy, like, man,

696
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: the numbers like they say they won't do it. And

697
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: I'm not blaming the numbers, because you've gotta take your chances.

698
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: Like it was pretty drastic, the slider, curveball, fastball, Like

699
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: you gotta realize that that's what he does. But it's

700
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: just so funny, how like it might not turn out

701
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: the way you want. And I think I think it

702
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: paralyzes you when you're so focused on what the numbers say,

703
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, how hard or how the numbers say. You know,

704
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, you do

705
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: have to have to feel you just gotta play the

706
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: game as hard as you can and know who you are.

707
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: But I've been really I've changed the way I've looked

708
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: at things the last few years because of how advanced

709
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: the games are and how advanced these pictures are. And uh,

710
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: I've learned from gold Schmidt, Paul Goldschman. He has really

711
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: helped me a lot with like him and like the

712
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 1: percentages are, how really high on this? So we have

713
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: to focus on this, and I've been doing it. Um.

714
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes they approach guys differently. But I've

715
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: really been learned a lot this year with all the

716
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: numbers and analytics and all that, and you know, the

717
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: videos on the pictures and all that. When he throws

718
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: in certain towns, it's been it's been really interesting. Something

719
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: I never really used to rely on, but with how

720
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: good these guys are nowadays, I've been really focused on it.

721
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 1: When we when we play golf that day, Um, at

722
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: the grove, you're watching DJ and you know, DJ is

723
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: one of you know, watching a driver is one of

724
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: the coolest things that he just stands there and hammers

725
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: driver and he hit one drive and you just kind

726
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: of looked at me and laughed and went, man, that's

727
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: so cool. When you hit a home run, right when

728
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: you're standing up on the plate and you hit rue

729
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: and you catch it, you know, what does that feel?

730
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: I mean, do you feel anything or does it feel

731
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: like it doesn't even touch the bat and it's just gone. Yeah. Well,

732
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: first off, any homer is the best feeling in the world.

733
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: That's what That's what I think is. Um, it's the

734
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: best only in the world. Um, there's nothing like it.

735
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's almost like you didn't really you know,

736
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: you hit the sweet spot. You just feel like it

737
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like really anything. It doesn't feel like you're

738
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: getting you know, I don't explain it, but yeah, you're

739
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: squaring it up and you can just see the way

740
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: the ball trajects like trajects in the air that it's

741
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: just it's gonna go out good back spin. Um, there's

742
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: no better feeling, you know, hitting a home run. Um,

743
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: I've always said that, and uh um, but you know

744
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: it's hard to back spend the baseball, that's for sure.

745
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: But when you do it, man, I'm saying, there's nothing

746
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: like it, and doing it in big moments of school

747
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: runs and win games. I mean, like I said, there's

748
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: no better feeling in the world. I mean, you've had

749
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: almost three hundred home runs in the Major League, so

750
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: you're pretty good at doing it. Um, we could talk

751
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: about baseball all day. Golf, I know, it's something that's

752
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're really passionate about. It's a big

753
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: part of your life. Um, how did you get into

754
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: golf and and why did you get into golf? Yeah,

755
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: when I was in a my dad always played golf

756
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: when I was younger, and I always would go mess

757
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: around with him, go play, and uh, you know, in

758
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: double A, I got my first set of clubs because

759
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: a lot of my boys got a lot of I've

760
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: always got clubs, and uh so I was like, oh,

761
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it serious. You know, I'm gonna buy

762
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: my set clubs. I'm gonna get you know, I'm gonna

763
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go play a lot. I wasn't very good

764
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: for a while, but I love the game of golf,

765
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: and then I slowly just got better. Every year every offseason,

766
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: I would just practice practice. Then I finally joined the

767
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: country club. You know, like as I because when I

768
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: thought I was actually good enough to join a country club,

769
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,959
Speaker 1: that's when I joined the country club. Um, and then

770
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: you know I could be able to go practice, go play. Um.

771
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: But I love the game of golf just for the

772
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: sake of like it's such a competitive sport. Um. You know,

773
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: when baseball season is over, you know, I mean you

774
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: know you you still need that drive, that competitiveness, you know,

775
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: like you almost like it's like addicting in a sense,

776
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: like you gotta go compete. Like I can't just go

777
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: nof season just like I'm not gonna go do nothing,

778
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: Like I need to compete somehow, somehow, a way, you know.

779
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: And golf is that outlet for me. And uh, I

780
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: love doing it with my my all my brothers and

781
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: my cousins. We all play. Hey, so it's a pretty

782
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: cool experience. What is the current handicap right now? I

783
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 1: got down to a three point to this offseason. Yeah,

784
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,479
Speaker 1: I got down hit it really good. Yeah. I didn't

785
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: play good at the Grow, but I was nervous playing

786
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: with Dustin and Ricky and those guys there. I was nervous.

787
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna Florida Golf with the wind. I

788
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: usually don't. I'm not very good. I'm not that good

789
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: to play through that stuff. Um, but you know, I

790
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: got down pretty good this offseason. I've been playing a lot.

791
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: I would do lessons. You know, I was really focused

792
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: on my putting. I did a putting lesson, um, because

793
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't like missing putts, and uh, but I love it. Yeah.

794
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: I got down to a three one this offseason, and uh,

795
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: probably right now I'm like at four. But you know,

796
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: we'll see where I'm at. Do you remember the first

797
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: time you broke part I've only done it. I broke.

798
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: I broke part one Emerald Dunes in Florida, and I

799
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: played really well, and uh, I shot one under and

800
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: I was I was on fire. I was, oh man,

801
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: it was awesome. But the last hole I needed to

802
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: I needed a part. And because there's a part five

803
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: before the part four, I went in the bunker and

804
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: I went back in the bunker. After a couple of swings,

805
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm about to blow this

806
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: round right now. I was nervous. I was like, no ways,

807
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: this about to happen. And then I got out of

808
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: there with a bogey and then I was like, okay,

809
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 1: I'm one under. I gotta be able to last whole.

810
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: And I was a little bit off the green. I

811
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: put it within, gimmea range, and I made it and

812
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: it was I was so nervous though, but it was awesome.

813
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's amazing. You know, you you've played baseball,

814
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 1: you you've hit home runs in front of fifty six people.

815
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: You know, that type of noiance and stuff. I'm always

816
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: fascinated that that non golfers better athletes. I mean, you're

817
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: feeling the pressure to break par for the first time.

818
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: What was the feeling like you did you drive home

819
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 1: and were you just like, man, I've actually done it. Yeah.

820
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: I mean I was so excit. I called my dad

821
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: right away. I was like freaking out, you know, I

822
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: was so pumped up. I called my dad, My dad,

823
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: do you want you want to believe I shot one

824
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: under today? You know? And he was all fired up

825
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: for me. I told all my boys, but I call

826
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: my dad like when I got called up to the

827
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: big leagues, basically like, hey, I'm getting called up, Like

828
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: I shot one under and I called him like, dude,

829
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: I shot one under today and it was pretty awesome.

830
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: And the guys I played with were great. Um, but uh,

831
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: the course is fun too. But yeah, man, I was.

832
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: I was. That made my whole weekend that weekend. I

833
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: don't think anything made me upset after that. Let's take

834
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: a quick break and we are back. You mentioned you

835
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: you you played with d j um rickey. Um. When

836
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: you look at those guys and obviously you're you're coming

837
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: to it from you know, sport that you know you're

838
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: one of the best in the game, and when when

839
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: you look at them, what stands out to you that

840
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: you look at when you watch any of the player

841
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna know you've played with, you probably played in

842
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: pro ams before and stuff like that, But when you

843
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: watch professional golfers as a professional athlete, what is what

844
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: stands out to you that you go, wow, that's that's

845
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: really really cool. Yeah. Well, first, just what I was

846
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: amazed with Dustin. You know, I remember that one part

847
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: five with the wind blowing in. He played like a

848
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: little cut and then you get a three wood through

849
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: the wind right on the green for eagle, Like I

850
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: was just more like, I mean, I'm not I don't

851
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: think I've ever seen anything. I've never seen anything like

852
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: that as far as how big, how long that hole

853
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: was playing, and how he knew like I'm gonna play

854
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: cut over here with the three wood, it's gonna come

855
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: right back on the green. And the ball moved like

856
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: it was hit so far and then it moved a

857
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: lot and it was right on the green. And I

858
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: just amazed. You know. It's just like I know people

859
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: are amazed with as we're playing baseball, but just being

860
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 1: able to play. Like what I know is with Dustin

861
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: when he was doing he was aiming at like the

862
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: smallest spots where to hit the ball. I know, the

863
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: first hole, he would like, go right to the bunker

864
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: because that's a good look into the hole, and like

865
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get in the fairway. He's like no,

866
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: and he's aiming at the smallest area where I can

867
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: get it where the best. And that's I guess that's

868
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: the difference, right, is that they they do they're trying

869
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: to do the little things and get in the best spot.

870
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,959
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make sure I have a decent look,

871
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: you know. And I was just amazed by those little things,

872
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: you know, and the confidence, the chipping, the drives were

873
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: amazing that you can play a cut in a draw. Um,

874
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: you know, I play with Fred Couples one time, and

875
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: I've got to know Fred a little bit and he's

876
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: a friend. And uh, he was amazing too. You know

877
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: how smooth and easy he was. He was making cuts

878
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: from nice and from huge, but his swing was unbelievable.

879
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this is this is insane. I mean,

880
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: how how easy he's making this look. But you know

881
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: what I love too is that you know, I know

882
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: they're having fun, but you know, you could tell it's

883
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: just like the US baseball players. You don't like taking

884
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: a bad swing. Nobody's happening when it doesn't feel right,

885
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You're like, no, that's not

886
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: what I'm looking for. You know, it's there's there's similarities there.

887
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: You know, if I was hitting batting practice and I

888
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: took a bad swing, I know it's only one swing,

889
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: but I'm still like, I don't like that, you know

890
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: what I mean. And that's what with them too. They're

891
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: the same way. It's pretty cool. Did you say, um, no,

892
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: one all the strengths of your game right now from

893
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: golf standpoint, and where do you feel like you can

894
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: make some improvements and and and help get you, you know,

895
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: the ideal world. I mean, I'm guessing the goal for

896
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: you would be to be a scratch golfer, right, get

897
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: down to scratch. So yeah, that's you know, you're a three.

898
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: I mean the amount of people that are three handicaps

899
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: that play golf, I mean they're not. You think there's

900
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: a lot of them, They're there's really not. So what

901
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: do you think, um, what are the strengths? What do

902
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: you say, Okay, I know I have a lot of

903
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: confidence in this, and what are the areas for your game?

904
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: Did you feel like, okay, I could get better at this?

905
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: I think driving obviously, driving accuracy. You know, I want

906
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: to learn to play a draw off the drive. I

907
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: used to play a cut, you know, the baseball swing.

908
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: We stay inside, and so I kind of just carry

909
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: that over to golf and it works all right. But

910
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: I would love to play a draw. Um, and all

911
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: the players draw, All the hockey players draw, and all

912
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: the baseball players really hit the cut. All the hockey

913
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: players all draw, like I've I've yet to see one

914
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: hockey player that doesn't draw it because obviously they're staying.

915
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: They have to have their lower body be very very stationary,

916
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: and then it's a lot of arm movement and that

917
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: the swing comes more from around the body as a

918
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,959
Speaker 1: hockey player. So all of the hockey players fight the hook.

919
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: And I mean it's a generalization, but over the years,

920
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: all the hockey players I've ever seen, they all fight

921
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: the hulk, and all the baseball players fight the slice. Yes, exactly. Um,

922
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: that's crazy golf my drives putting obviously, and then shipping.

923
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: You know, I this is this is the first offseason

924
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: I learned to like chip and be able to like

925
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: stop it on the green. Um. Obviously I bladed a

926
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: lot of those, but the times I did it right,

927
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: it was it was really key for me. Um. But

928
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: those are the big things, the driving, the chip, the

929
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: short game. And then I feel like my irons are

930
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: pretty good. You know, I feel like I keep it

931
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: in the fairway. I could, you know, I could hit

932
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: the greens pretty good. But I mean, at the end

933
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: of the day, you know, it's it's like anything you

934
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 1: feel like the game is not good enough. I feel

935
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: like I gotta get it all better. But if I

936
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: could keep my drives in in in the fairway and

937
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: give myself a good look, I feel like I could score,

938
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I feel like whenever I

939
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: have my best rounds, it's usually when i'm driving all

940
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: the best. You mentioned hitting to where you said listen.

941
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes if you're trying to get hits, you're

942
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: not going to get hits right. And I think one

943
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: of the similarities between hitting and and golf is, you know,

944
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: we always say the players, listen, if you can just

945
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: get the bull and play off the team, regardless of

946
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: how far that is, right, but get the ball in

947
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: playoff the team hit more fairways. Obviously your confidence goes

948
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: up in the feel, but the game becomes so much

949
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 1: easier the more that you can keep the ball and play.

950
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: And I think everybody I always say the players listening

951
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: to if you come to me and say listen, i'm hitting,

952
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: you know, tend to twelve fairways around. I just don't

953
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: hit it far enough. That's a different conversation. So the

954
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 1: idea being that if you can get the ball and play,

955
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: don't necessarily try and and and go for this. Just say, listen,

956
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: let me get this in play. And I've got an

957
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: iron in my hand from the short grass from pretty

958
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: much normally probably a fairly flatish lie. It makes the

959
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: game and scoring a hell of a lot easier than

960
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: when you're trying to chip out and you're trying to

961
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 1: go through the trees and all of that. For sure. Absolutely,

962
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: I've been through a plenty of trees, that's for sure,

963
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: so I know about that. But yeah, I mean, like

964
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: I said, my best rounds I've ever had in my

965
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: life or usually when I'm in the fairway, have a

966
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: good look at the green and uh, like I said,

967
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: doesn't happen a lot, but when it does, that's usually

968
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: when I play my best. Favorite golf courses that you've

969
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: got the player there any golf courses that you've got

970
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: to play there like that? That's unbelievable. What are some

971
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 1: courses that are on your bucket list that you would

972
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: like to play? Uh? Best course I ever played? Uh?

973
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: I thought Pebble was one. Um, unbelievable. Spyglass was really fun. Um,

974
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: the Bears Club was great, the girls that the experience

975
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: that the grow is great. Um, Pebbles, Pobby up there. Um.

976
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: The one I want to play is probably Whistling Straights

977
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: to St. Andrew's is I've never been able to. I've

978
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: never played there, but I would love to go play that.

979
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: That looks like an unbelievable time. Did you watch a

980
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: lot of golf on TV? I do? I do. I

981
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: watched a lot of golf. I watched Zalaturus yesterday. That

982
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: was unbelievable finish. I was sweet, But I do. I

983
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: always come home watch golf. Um. It's great because Sunday

984
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: we always have a day game mostly some most Sundays,

985
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, Somendays you play Sunnight Baseball, but most day

986
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 1: games you play us on Sunday. So I'm always pumped

987
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: up that after the game I can get home and finish.

988
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: Like usually the golf is usually about to finish, you know,

989
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: it's always like the last few holes, so it's always

990
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: kind of close. So I always recorded and I always

991
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: get back home to watch it. That's I mean. I've

992
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: talked to so many people that are non you know,

993
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: not golfers, and they say, oh, man, I take the golf.

994
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: I watched golf on my phone. I watch it all.

995
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: Are you a YouTube golf person? Are you on? Are

996
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: you online trying to figure out look at different things

997
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 1: or do you kind of have your kind of group

998
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: of coaches that you stick with. Yeah, I know, I

999
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: for sure gone YouTube watch a lot of time. I

1000
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: gonna watch a lot of Tiger videos. Phil Us do

1001
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: some shipping lessons on there. I would be trying to

1002
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: find out about um. Like I said, I got to

1003
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: know friend. I got to know DJ a little bit.

1004
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: So sometimes I'll send him videos like, hey man, what

1005
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: you got for me? This is not good. I don't Yeah,

1006
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: I don't don't sut him videos. Send m send him

1007
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: to me. He ain't gonna know right I should send

1008
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: him to you. He's got no clue. Honestly, it's it's

1009
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 1: a amazing how how It's a little bit like you know, baseball.

1010
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean, trying to tell someone how you do something

1011
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: in baseball, you know, getting into your brain and eventually

1012
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember Michael Jordan. We were talking to

1013
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: Michael about something and they're asking if some about some

1014
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: play that he did and what he was thinking. He

1015
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: was like, I don't even know how I did that.

1016
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: I just did it right. I think golfers are pretty

1017
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: I mean, there are are a couple of golfers professionals

1018
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: I've been around, that are good at kind of telling

1019
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: players what to do, But most professional golfers are the

1020
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: worst people to ask because they don't know how they

1021
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: do it. You know, yess when you say that, because

1022
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: whenever people ask me, like man, how did you hit that?

1023
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: Or like what what are you thinking about your swing?

1024
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: And I'm always like, man, I don't know, you know.

1025
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to trust my instincts and trust the

1026
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: work I put in. But I usually when I'm at

1027
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: my best, when I'm playing well, I really don't even

1028
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: know what to say. It's crazy how that works for

1029
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: a lot of those sports. I love that. Lastly, in

1030
00:45:55,280 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: twenty two, Nolan, no social media for you? Social media

1031
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: free as one of the best players in baseball, Hey,

1032
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: athlete in the public domain? Is that a conscious choice

1033
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: to not do that? Yeah? It is, you know. I uh,

1034
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm not against it in any way. Actually, I think

1035
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: it's extremely valuable for a lot of people. UM, just

1036
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: not me, I guess, you know. I I like to

1037
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: keep things private. I like to um, I just don't

1038
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: want to get caught up in certain things that go

1039
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: on on there. And I know there's a lot of

1040
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: trash talking, certain things and things that people say, and

1041
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: I don't need that in my life. I like, I

1042
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: like kind of just keeping my life private and not

1043
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: getting caught up up in a lot of things like that. Um,

1044
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: Like I said, I think it's actually a very valuable tool,

1045
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: you know. I think it's really great. But for me,

1046
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never done it. I just I

1047
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: don't know. Man, I really don't have the main great

1048
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: explanation other than I just keep things private and I

1049
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 1: don't like to share too much now. I mean, listen,

1050
00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: I think it's it's refreshing to hear someone that that

1051
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: isn't caught up in all of it. Um. Coming into

1052
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: the off season, Now, how many days a week you're

1053
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: gonna start playing golf? Give it to me. Come on

1054
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: at least three to four. Um, at three to four,

1055
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 1: for sure, I'll be out there, um grinding. It's funny

1056
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: because after the baseball season, the golf game is not

1057
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: quite there. So I'll be on the range for a

1058
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: few hours to see if I can get it right

1059
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: in a few days. Because my boys want to play

1060
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: and there's some money to be one and I want

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00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: to make sure I'm winning it. So in future, don't

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00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: message d J ricky on on your golf swing. Send

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00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: them to me. We'll take care of that. I appreciate that,

1064
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: and thank you. I really appreciate you talking to us.

1065
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, listen. I think there's so many

1066
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: similarities between golf and baseball, and so anytime I can

1067
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: get a chance to talk to someone like yourself about baseball, UM,

1068
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: it's fascinating. I could I could talk to you about kidding.

1069
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I could talk to you about that all day.

1070
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: So we'll get together next time you're down to Florida.

1071
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: Let's get together and place some golf and uh, enjoy

1072
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: the off season. I appreciate it. Thanks so much for

1073
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: having me. I appreciate it. Thanks. So I want to

1074
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: thank Nolan for coming on the pod and UH, listen,

1075
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: you guys have heard me say it before. That's part

1076
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: of the reason why I did the podcast. Talk to

1077
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: people that, UM love golf, and let me tell you

1078
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: that guy is a golf junkie. So this week Lives

1079
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: finale in Miami, UM, I think, listen, whether you're a fan,

1080
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: whether you're not a fan. UM, it's been a pretty

1081
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: interesting ride. I think for everybody involved with Live and UM,

1082
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: I think if you'd told everybody last year at this

1083
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: time that Live would be doing what it's doing, having

1084
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: the players at scott Um having the tournaments UM all

1085
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: around the world and having the winners it's had, I

1086
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: think everybody would be surprised. So should be an interesting

1087
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: uh end to the live season and be interesting to

1088
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: see what happens a big big break. UM. I think

1089
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: lives starts back up again in February, so they get

1090
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: an actual offseason. Rory McElroy one UH at Congary went

1091
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: back to number one in the world. Um, and just

1092
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: what a what a dominant performance by Rory has this

1093
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: uncanny ability when he gets kind of near the lead

1094
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: to birdie three holes in a row. Okay, made a

1095
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,919
Speaker 1: couple of bogies coming in, but um, yeah, just such

1096
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: a dominant, dominant performance. It's been a hell of a year.

1097
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: I think everything that Rory has been dealing with is

1098
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: kind of being the de facto spokesperson for the PGA

1099
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: tour UM, but the play the way he has played,

1100
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: because honestly, we played DJ played a practice round with

1101
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: with Rory UM at the British Open, and I mean

1102
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: you could see that, um, you know, kind of being

1103
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: this spokesperson for the PGA tour um, you know, everything

1104
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: that that Rory has been under pressure wise. You could

1105
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: see it. I mean you could see it weighing on him.

1106
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: I mean he looked tired. UM. And but I mean

1107
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: the guy is just such an amazing golfer and when

1108
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: he is in full flow, when he I mean he is,

1109
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: he looks like he was born with a driver in

1110
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: his hand. And uh, you know, I'm a huge fan.

1111
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: I love the way he plays golf and when when

1112
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: he's on, um, you know, he's almost he's almost hard

1113
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: to beat. UM. There's a few guys like that, and

1114
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: he is definitely one of them. But interestingly, UM, you

1115
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: know I just mentioned that liv gets almost four months

1116
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: off and Rory um talking about, you know, after his

1117
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: win that he thinks there should be a longer break

1118
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: in the fall for the p G A Tour. I

1119
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 1: know a lot of players have talked about that. Um,

1120
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: that's been being talked about by all the big stars

1121
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: UM for quite some time. UM, them wanting and needing

1122
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: an offseason the live guys get it. And then you've

1123
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 1: got Rory McAuley saying that the PGA Tour guy should

1124
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: get it as well. So, UM, pretty interesting times. UM,

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Speaker 1: you know, Rory, at the beginning of this year, you

1126
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: know it always looks like you know, he's the guy

1127
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: to beat, but then you know he misses cuts, isn't winning,

1128
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he just starts banging

1129
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: out wins like the Rory of Olds. So it would

1130
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: be interesting to see with a pretty lengthy break when

1131
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: he comes back and plays, UM back to world number one,

1132
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 1: And UM, you know next year, what do the official

1133
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: World Golf rankings UM look like? Are their changes? UM?

1134
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: Do the live guys get points? UM? If the live

1135
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: guys don't get points and you've got players like camp

1136
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: Smith and Dustin Johnson, UM and Brooks kept a winning

1137
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: on live, UM, I think they could win anywhere in

1138
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: watching the way that they've been playing. UM. And I

1139
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: think it would be really interesting, UM what actually happens?

1140
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: What three is going to look like for professional golf?

1141
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 1: But UM interesting times and UM I'm excited to see

1142
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: UM how of this week's team competition pans out? UM. Listen,

1143
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm I worked with three players that play on on

1144
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 1: live and two of them are on the same team

1145
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: in Pat Perez and Dustin Johnson. And one of the

1146
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: things that I think is being massively, massively UM overlooked,

1147
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: and UM a lot of people just don't even come

1148
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: close to understanding is UM. The team part of of

1149
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: Live is it's very very real. UM. And I'm only

1150
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: saying that because I've watched it, I've witnessed it up

1151
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: close and UM, really seen it for real and it's UM.

1152
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: The guys love it. The guys who are invested in it,

1153
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: the guys are UM. They're constantly talking about it, and UM,

1154
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: I think it should be an interesting weekend. I want

1155
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,439
Speaker 1: to thank everyone for listening. We We've got a bunch

1156
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: of great guests, a bunch of past episodes that are fantastic,

1157
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: and if you haven't taken a look at some of

1158
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: the stuff we've done in the past, go check it out.

1159
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: And UM, I think you will get a lot out

1160
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: of it, and I think you will enjoy listening to

1161
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: some of the guests that we have had. Son of

1162
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 1: a which comes to you every Wednesday. We will see

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Speaker 1: you next week.