1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Quake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning, everybody in stej n V jess hilarious, 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: Charlamage the guy. 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: We are the breakfast Club. We got a special guest 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: in the building. 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. 7 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Ho are you feeling? 8 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 4: I feel good. I think the last time we did this, 9 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 4: we might have been on a Zoom call. So it's 10 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 4: cool to be in person. 11 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: Yeah it was zoom. 12 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 5: How's your spirit? How's your energy? 13 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 4: I'm super good. I'm like, probably the best. 14 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 3: I've ever been. 15 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: Amazing, and why is that? 16 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 4: I think just life is really cool. I think I 17 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 4: made something I'm stoked about. My fans are stoked. I 18 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 4: got to do all these cool signings and see all 19 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 4: of them in person, and just like be back in 20 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 4: the swing of things. 21 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 2: So I'm good, I said. They say you're a gym wrap. 22 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: They said you up at six o'clock this morning in 23 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: the gym. They say every morning. 24 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 4: They might have lied about this morning. I was dead 25 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 4: sleep this morning. But yeah, I'm up. I'm always about 26 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 4: my fitness stuff. I'm super healthy and the healthiest I've 27 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 4: also ever been. 28 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 5: So yeah, I've been watching videos of you all weekend 29 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 5: in New York and like you know, a lot of 30 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 5: people have been coming to your signings and you. 31 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: Pop up crazy, make you feel getting that. 32 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 5: Type of love. 33 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 4: It's been cool. I mean, I've been doing this for 34 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 4: so long, and I've been doing signings for so long, 35 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 4: and at some point, like my brain tricked me into 36 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 4: being like, you know, they're probably gonna lessen over the years, 37 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 4: because it's like, you know, we've seen her a bunch, 38 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 4: she dropped a bunch of projects. I'm on project seven 39 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 4: or six on project six? Is it seven? Seven? 40 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 6: Oh? 41 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 4: I was right, see so much music. I forgot that, 42 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 4: you know, I didn't expect it to be getting bigger. 43 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 4: So they're actually the craziest signings I've ever had so far, 44 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 4: because it's growing, and that's you know, that's all you 45 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 4: can pray for. 46 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 5: I will say, you know, listening to your new album 47 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 5: and just seeing you over the last few months several 48 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 5: months talking like there's a confidence in a sense of 49 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 5: self that you have now that you didn't have years ago. 50 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, Why is that? 51 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's been a long mental health journey. 52 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 4: I think it's been a lot of contributing factors, new motherhood, 53 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 4: different angles of like publicly being publicly aligned with certain 54 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 4: things are publicly misaligned. They're just like not stepping into myself. 55 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 4: I'm twenty nine, I'll be thirty next year. Like I'm 56 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 4: just I'm growing up in a real way, so like 57 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 4: I know how to prioritize and take care of myself differently. 58 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: Now, So why did you name the album Crash? 59 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 4: So essentially, a crash is the height and the peak 60 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 4: of a moment. It isn't like the anxiety that comes before, 61 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 4: and it isn't like the overthinking that comes after. It's 62 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 4: just this like, excuse me, cluster fuck. It's just this 63 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,119 Speaker 4: this thing that happens. And I knew this album wasn't 64 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 4: gonna make sense to most people. I knew that it 65 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 4: would be something that you either loved or that you hated, 66 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 4: and that kind of just is a crash, And that's 67 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 4: kind of been The reception is some people hate this, 68 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 4: some people love this, and people think it's my worst, 69 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 4: and some people think it's my best. And I think 70 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 4: that's really cool. 71 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: It's a little bit of everything. 72 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a crash. It's really a. 73 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: Cool everything with that, what you wanted to do. 74 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 4: You know, I didn't start wanting to do that it 75 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 4: started as myself titled and I went on this mission 76 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 4: to like make finally make the Kailani album because I 77 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 4: haven't done that yet. And we started in like going 78 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 4: to all these different cities and we got all these 79 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 4: airbnbs in different places, and it just kind of grew 80 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 4: into this thing that resembled I feel like me as 81 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 4: a person. I feel like I've always been kind of 82 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 4: this thing that doesn't make sense to everyone. They can't 83 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 4: figure out, like who I am, what I am, what 84 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 4: my story is, how it's been all of these things 85 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 4: like can't figure me out and whatever kind of way 86 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 4: how I look versus how what kind of music I make, 87 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 4: how I sound? And once it started taking its own life, 88 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, okay, it's just me as an album. 89 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 2: So what is the self titled Kilania album supposed to 90 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: be like? Because you said it was supposed to be 91 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: a Kilania album, what was that supposed to. 92 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 4: Well, that album, to me, is more rooted in the 93 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 4: core things that shaped why I sing. I feel like 94 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 4: the Kilani album will be much more referencing like my 95 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 4: actual core musical references. It'll probably be a lot more 96 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 4: R and B. But this album really reflected all the 97 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 4: things that I listened to, like that I grew up 98 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 4: listening to, but didn't necessarily shape my identity as an artist, 99 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 4: but reflect like, you know, worldly where I'm at. 100 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: Basically we're still getting kaylaning out. 101 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: Absolutely, that'll probably be my next album probably. Yeah. 102 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 5: Lose My Wife as such a toxic record. It is 103 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 5: so toxic. Why would you make those choices and decisions 104 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 5: knowing that it could cost you your wife? 105 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 4: Oh? You know, it's not a true story. I just 106 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 4: wanted to so in my head, Crash is the story 107 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 4: of this anti hero version of myself that goes to 108 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 4: Vegas and has this crazy run in Vegas and ends 109 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 4: with that lament of like damn. I've like, oh, this 110 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 4: is crashed instantly, and it's almost like the come down 111 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 4: song of like oh, these are the decisions that I've made, 112 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 4: and like this is what happens. So it's more of 113 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 4: like a sonic story and an ending to the story 114 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 4: than a true story that I needed to smack on there. 115 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 4: It kind of feels like the Hungover song kind of 116 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: feels like the next day you're. 117 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 6: Like, oh shit, this is your shadow side exactly. 118 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, when you were in the studio. Writing these songs, 119 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 5: you were like, I'm gonna let my shadow side. 120 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 4: I was like, you know, there is. There's been so 121 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 4: many toxic so it really has. There really has, And 122 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 4: I feel like it's they are moments that people don't 123 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 4: people maybe want to say in their head and been 124 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 4: like I've had that perspective, or I've gone through that, 125 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 4: or I've wanted to say that, and like I would 126 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 4: never say it out loud and to me. After I 127 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 4: wrote that verse, I was like, this is kind of 128 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 4: like stingy and it is kind of harsh. But some 129 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 4: people feel like that. 130 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 5: But when I hear songs like after Hours or like 131 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 5: Better than Not or Tears, it does feel like you're 132 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 5: longing for a stable relationship, does it a little bit? 133 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean I think everybody wants love, everybody wants 134 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 4: stable love, and we all just have different journeys to it. 135 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 5: You know. 136 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, how has motherhood been? 137 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 4: Oh, it's the best journey. It's the best. She's five. 138 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 4: I can't believe it. Yeah, And that's different. I got 139 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 4: a third thing. I'm literally like, I'll make the day 140 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 4: seem so fun. I'm like, we're going with the aquarium 141 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 4: and we're going here, we're going here, and then she's like, 142 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 4: no kind of I just want to stay in the 143 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 4: house and play. I'm like, jeez, what are we gonna do. 144 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 4: The other day took her to the park and she 145 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: was like, I'm just letting you guys know, I'm not 146 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 4: playing with any of those kids. And I was like, 147 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 4: I respect it, but maybe we should try. And she 148 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 4: made some friends, and she's in school, so like she 149 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 4: is friends, she. 150 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 5: Still got musical interest. I heard you say one time 151 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 5: she had some. 152 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 4: She's on the album she's on Deep. She actually sounds 153 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 4: so good that you can't really tell that it's her 154 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 4: except for her tone is obviously sounds a lot younger 155 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 4: than mine. 156 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: But she's singing her asshole. 157 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: Do you want her in the industry. 158 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 4: I want her to do whatever she wants to do. 159 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 4: If that means industry, sure, If that means she wants 160 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 4: my help, sure. If that means she doesn't want my help, sure. 161 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 4: If that means she wants to be a rein surgeon 162 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 4: or a rocket scientist, let's do that. It's her world. 163 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 4: I'm just here. 164 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 165 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 5: Is the industry good for kids? I mean, you're somebody 166 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 5: who came in the industry, young. 167 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 4: I think that compared like, there's two different There's there's 168 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 4: pros and cons on both sides. One, I didn't have 169 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 4: access to the proper like mental wellness type of regimen 170 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 4: or care to have grown up in it the way 171 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 4: that I did. And we're seeing the effects of people 172 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 4: who you know, adults now and all these stories are 173 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 4: coming out about them being like child stars are coming 174 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 4: out young. And on the flip side, I feel like 175 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 4: people now have access to that. But there's it's also 176 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 4: a different demon fame now is completely different. It's why 177 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 4: I don't really post my daughter. 178 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: I don't. 179 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 4: There's too many creeps. I don't ever hear it ever 180 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 4: look back and be like, I actually didn't consent to 181 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,119 Speaker 4: any of this. I didn't give any permission. We already 182 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 4: get embarrassed when our parents play home videos for our 183 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 4: friends when they come over, Like if I'm just subjecting 184 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 4: my child to her home video, her freaking growing up 185 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 4: home videos being widely known all over the internet, and 186 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 4: she grows up one day and it's like I didn't 187 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 4: get to tell you if I wanted that or not. 188 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 4: You know, that's not me as a parent. 189 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, any more babies, I would. 190 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: Love to have more babies. Whatever God wants to. 191 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: Bless me with, I receive. 192 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, can we talk about the record? What I want? 193 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 6: Yeah? 194 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 5: I want a bitch that look better than me, pussy get. 195 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 4: You reading it so serious? 196 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 6: Yeah? What I want? 197 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 5: So excited to read on that record, it seems like 198 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 5: you're torn between wanting to be spoiled but also feeling 199 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 5: comfortable being the one who spoils. 200 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I'm definitely like I fluctuate. Absolutely. I think 201 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 4: I'm more of a giver than a receiver of like spoiling. 202 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 4: I think that's just my nature. But I it's just 203 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 4: a classic song about naming all the things that I want. 204 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 4: I don't think any of them are even cohesive. I 205 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 4: think they're just like, here's a list of all the 206 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: all my dream things that I want. 207 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 5: If you having a while weekend in Vegas, why would 208 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 5: you lie to a woman like that? Why would you 209 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 5: make her feel. 210 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 3: Isn't that what you do in Vegas? 211 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 4: Doesn't Vegas make you me? No? 212 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 6: Not like that? But I'm saying doesn't. 213 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 4: It's Vegas, not like some adult Disneyland, like all your 214 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 4: vices and you don't. 215 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 6: Talk about it. Actually, actually, I have a. 216 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 4: Tiny residency in Vegas. Thank you, I have a show, 217 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 4: Thank you. I have a show at the end of 218 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 4: next month and in August. That's what I do in Vegas. 219 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, because even on the song Vegas maybe I'm tripping, 220 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 5: it didn't sound like you was actually in Vegas. 221 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 6: You just said what we do is like Vegas exactly. 222 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 4: The only I made a couple of songs. Actually I 223 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 4: made part of what I Want in Vegas. I made 224 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 4: part of SUSI on Vegas. I mean actually I made 225 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 4: most of SUSI on Vegas, and a part of Groove 226 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 4: Theory in Vegas. But the song Vegas I made in 227 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 4: Los Angeles. 228 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 7: Okay, and then on my go to Vegas the fall 229 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 7: in love like they go to create had fun, you know, to. 230 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 6: The person who said, I'm lying going on, we don't know. 231 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 5: The record Sushi a sushi doesn't mean, isn't. 232 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: That's fantasy sushia. 233 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 6: Sushi and that's dirty yeah, dirty girl. Yeah, there we 234 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 6: go biling Is that what the record? 235 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? Basically I mean Young Miko's versus Crazy if it's translated, 236 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 4: and Jill Scott is free, Auntie Max Extreme is the 237 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 4: freak Lord. Honestly, the original freak, so I had to 238 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 4: tap her in. Yeah, yeah, she that was an honor. 239 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 4: I noticed that she don't have a lot of features. Yeah, 240 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: was that intentional? No, I tried to get more features. 241 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 4: There was a couple of things that were going on, 242 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 4: different time things and not necessarily being aligned at the time, 243 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 4: different people not aligning with me, and just things not 244 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 4: making sense. But the ones that did stick around for 245 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 4: me and really you know, held me down. I'm super 246 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 4: appreciative and they killed it. Yeah. 247 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: Now after I was were you surprised of how fast 248 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: I took off, especially on social media? 249 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: Crazy? 250 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like a huge dance. 251 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 252 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 4: I honestly have to give a lot of credit to 253 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 4: Darius Hickman, who's an incredible dancer, and he was in 254 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 4: the After Hours video and he left rehearsal for one 255 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 4: of the for the After Hours video, I went home 256 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 4: and just like made this little dance on TikTok and 257 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 4: it just like it took it on one. I think 258 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 4: it's such a testament to how powerful like dance is 259 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 4: and how like dancers are, like DJ's like they can 260 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 4: really break songs like it's I give him all the 261 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 4: credit for that because it's crazy did you. 262 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: Know who Loomi d was beforehand? 263 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, of course you disrespect her like that, like of 264 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 8: course the one song you know, maybe people she have one? 265 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: I think she had one. 266 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 5: Now. You also mentioned that this album isn't rooted in 267 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 5: your personal experiences, are relationships like your previous albums? Are 268 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 5: you saying that just so you don't get in trouble 269 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 5: and people be like, damn, Colode's so toxic? 270 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 8: No? 271 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 4: I think I think anytime a running I want you 272 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 4: so bad, so bad. You know what's so funny is 273 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 4: I think people would be surprised if they sat down 274 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 4: with me to to actually ask and inquire about my experiences, 275 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 4: because they might look one way, but it's so many 276 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 4: different scenarios that lead to while my love life looks 277 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 4: the way it does, and so many that you would 278 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 4: be surprised. Who what's happened with this? And what's happened 279 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 4: with this? And it's just it's my business and it's 280 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 4: my world, and I'm pretty much in good standing with 281 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 4: anybody ever, So like running through these chicks is extreme. 282 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 4: You do really want me to be a pimp, and 283 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 4: you know, maybe maybe I'll just start embodying it. Maybe 284 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 4: maybe I just accept it. 285 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: Does that people in your in your in your regular business, 286 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: not just your music business all the time. 287 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 4: No, I think it came. It comes with the territory. 288 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 4: I think I got. I hated it so bad. But 289 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 4: I also I have been again, your mental health journey 290 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: and your journey in being a public facing person, those 291 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 4: have to be in lockstep like those if you are 292 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 4: ever having poor mental health. There are so many times 293 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 4: I could say I've been at a table with y'all 294 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 4: and been in the worst states of my life and 295 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, that interview is going to be whatever. 296 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 4: And times I've been like, I'm actually not doing interviews 297 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 4: this year because all of this shit. And absolutely, but 298 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 4: I've also was not in a positive space to even 299 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 4: be able to walk in a room and like hold that. Granted, 300 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 4: I think the interview at the time that caused things 301 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 4: like that, was it my favorite experience with someone. No, 302 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 4: but I also at multiple times in my career just 303 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 4: have not been just aligned with where I needed to 304 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 4: be to be able to show up in that way. 305 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 4: So now I can hold that. You could probably say 306 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 4: anything to me and I'd be like, all right, cool, I've. 307 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 5: Record label's gotten to the point where they actually respect 308 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 5: our artists mental health, meaning like if you wake up 309 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 5: a morning and you say, look, I'm not doing no 310 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 5: interviews today, I'm not doing no interviews for the next 311 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 5: six months, but they're like, no, you have to, like 312 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 5: they'll push you to do it anyway. 313 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 4: Well, I've been signed to the same label since I 314 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 4: was nineteen years old and I'm twenty nine, and they 315 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 4: have seen me through everything, So I think they're at 316 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 4: the point with me where they're like, we get it, 317 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 4: and we also know what you are going to show 318 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 4: up and show out for, and that's you know, your fans. 319 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 4: Like I never I never play about my fans. I 320 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 4: never played for showing, you know, showing up for them. 321 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 4: And we've always been super transparent, developed a really good 322 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 4: relationship with people in media to where like I've been 323 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 4: able to call people personally and been like, it's not you, 324 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 4: I promise, like I'm not doing well, or I've been 325 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 4: on a run and going and going and going for 326 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 4: six days and I just need to come in a 327 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 4: little later, I need to reschedule this, and people have 328 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 4: been super gracious with me. 329 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 5: So I'm a huge mental health advocate. So what got 330 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 5: you to that place where you are now, you know, 331 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 5: and I mean, and I know it's a journey. I 332 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 5: know it's up, so I know it's down. But what 333 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 5: got you to this? 334 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, I'm going to use this moment to be 335 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 4: really transparent and to really advocate for people, you know, 336 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 4: getting psychiatric care. And I got a psychiatrist and I 337 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 4: got a proper diagnosis after what felt like years of 338 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 4: getting soft diagnosis and misdiagnosis, and I'm able to get 339 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 4: medicated help and it keeps my mood stable and I'm 340 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 4: here and it keeps me like I would absolutely recommend 341 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 4: it to anybody that feels like they need it, because 342 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 4: it's not something that anybody needs to shame or like 343 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 4: be nervous about. And it's probably the best thing I've 344 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 4: ever done for myself. 345 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: What got you there because most people, like you said, 346 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: they feel like they can't talk about it, they can't 347 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: discuss it, they can't get the help because they don't 348 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: want to be shamed, especially a celebrity. You feel like 349 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: somebody will see me do this, that and the other. 350 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: What got you to the point was like, f this, 351 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: I need to get help. 352 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 4: You know, I was medicated when I was a kid, 353 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 4: and I remember not having the most proper experience with it, 354 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 4: just because I was really young, and like you're in 355 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 4: school and like every kid has ADHD and like it's hyperactive, 356 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 4: and I had to be in like the third grade 357 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 4: on riddling and it really messed with my personality. And 358 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 4: my mom was like, yeah, no, like you can't be 359 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 4: a zombie. Like I'll take hyperactive, turn the you know over, 360 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 4: like whatever this zombie, you know. And then on top 361 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 4: of that, still I just remained with the psychiatrist and 362 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 4: then you know, went into a teenagehood and I didn't 363 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 4: have that anymore. And then I became an adult and 364 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 4: just like my experiences in the music industry and the 365 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 4: amount of like honestly PTSD that that causes, paired with 366 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 4: you know, all your childhood trauma and like all these things, 367 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 4: you kind of get to a point where you're like, 368 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 4: all right, I'm not an expert. Like I can't keep 369 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 4: being the one to dictate this or to supplement or 370 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 4: like to to try to fix it. Ice to smoke 371 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 4: a lot of weed. Can't do it, won't do it. 372 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 4: I haven't been a smoker in five years. People bring 373 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 4: me wet all the time, and I'm. 374 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 5: Like, dang, that's about Indigo kind of calms your anxiety, 375 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 5: So Teva makes you have panic. 376 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 4: You know. It was because I got pregnant and I 377 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 4: couldn't and then I got I went to a throat 378 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 4: doctor and he was like, oh, you don't want to 379 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 4: sing for the rest of your life the way your 380 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 4: shit looks cause I was smoking backwards. I was smoking 381 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 4: blunts like I was what you can find pictures of 382 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 4: me with like backwoods like packs spread out like like 383 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 4: like a money spread psychotic and just nasty, just nasty. 384 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 4: And it just I couldn't do it anymore. And I'm 385 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 4: just I got to a point where I was like, Okay, 386 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 4: I'm doing all the things that I can possibly do. 387 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 4: I'm going to the gym, I'm developing good hobbies. I'm 388 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 4: not going out and I'm not doing this and I'm 389 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 4: still struggling. It's to the point where I need to call, 390 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 4: you know, I need to ask for help. 391 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 5: Did it affect your art when you're on whatever medication? 392 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 4: No, No, it doesn't. It honestly is the first time, 393 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 4: maybe ever in my life that I feel like I 394 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 4: have been I have I'm clear, Yes. 395 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 5: Oh, congratulates. Like I told you when we first started, 396 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 5: you can really see it's a different level of confidence, 397 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 5: it's a different level sense of security. 398 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 4: I would say, yeah, absolutely, thank you. 399 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 6: I appreciate it. 400 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: Now we're doing this album. You know, usually people see 401 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: Kalani as an R and B artist, but this albums. 402 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: Popped its country. There's house music, is reggae music. Were 403 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: you nervous at all and be like my fan fans, 404 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: my core won't get it. 405 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 4: I actually felt the opposite. I felt like my core fans, 406 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 4: my actual core fans, would get it because there's been 407 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 4: hints of all these things. When my mixhape was nominated 408 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 4: for a Grammy, it wasn't nominated for R and B. 409 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 4: It was nominated for like Contemporary, you know, R and B. 410 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 4: So there's been hints of things my whole life, and 411 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 4: I felt like they would really understand. I felt like 412 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 4: everybody else who really loved one really R and B 413 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 4: project of mine, or like R and B SoundCloud drops 414 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 4: or features would be like, what is this and so 415 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 4: far for the most part, that's kind of what I've seen. 416 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 4: Plus this little subgroup of people who are going like wow, 417 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 4: I didn't even know she had this in her. This 418 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 4: is what's gonna make me fuck with her. So it's honestly, 419 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 4: it's been cool. I'm kind of really liking the polarity 420 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 4: of the response at this point. If I make the 421 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 4: same album again, I'm not an artist. If I make 422 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 4: the same project after seven projects. This is my chance 423 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 4: to pivot, and I took it, and I'm just I'm 424 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 4: stoked to be here exactly exactly. Some people are like, 425 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 4: this is the best thing I've ever heard you do, 426 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 4: and some people are like, this is chicken scratch and 427 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 4: it sounds like noise and I hate it. It's like, oh, 428 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 4: I don't listen to anyone. I made the album I 429 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 4: wanted to make, and I'm happy with it. 430 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 3: It's a bunch of different genres and it's so different. 431 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 4: It was so fun to make. I had it was 432 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 4: the funnest process. It was so many people involved that 433 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 4: were all feel the exact same way about it. It 434 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 4: felt like our album, not just mine. We got to 435 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 4: celebrate it, like I'm happy. 436 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 5: I keep hearing you talk about your fitness journey. Yeah, 437 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 5: but then they said recently you were body shamed on. 438 00:18:59,480 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 8: You know. 439 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 4: It was interesting body shame because what it was was 440 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 4: the accusations that I got ab etching, but yeah, it's 441 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 4: it's really interesting. The thing is I have dialysis right 442 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 4: that and a hernia from being pregnant, so my muscles 443 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 4: are split down the middle, so I have I have 444 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 4: this space right here, and this I have like a 445 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 4: lump because it's my intestine, it's a hernia, and it 446 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 4: kind of looks like an extra ab randomly above my 447 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 4: belly button. Everybody was like, that's the proof, like and 448 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 4: then they were like, yes, proof because she's not super 449 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 4: muscly anywhere else but just her core and won if 450 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 4: you go back like genetically I have my dad is 451 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 4: super buff, like I'm damn here bill like my father, 452 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 4: And then I've always kind of had right you can 453 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 4: really see it, and I and I've always had abs. 454 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 4: And then upon like just really training my core to 455 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 4: like make up for the fact that my muscles aren't 456 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 4: connected and I have to get my core together to 457 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 4: be able to do any things. That's the center of everything. 458 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 4: I have to go a little hard on that. And 459 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 4: I honestly thought it was hilarious. And then people just 460 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 4: being like, is that a man? And I was like, 461 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 4: do you want me to be Jesus would you like 462 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 4: me to be? 463 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 7: But what I love is like you didn't get mad 464 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 7: and like go get online and start going crazy. 465 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 3: Man, it doesn't do anything. 466 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 4: I used to do that a lot, and then you 467 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 4: just realize, like there's crazy shit every day, Like people 468 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 4: talk about some new shit the next day. I remember 469 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 4: when the internet used to destroy me, like it you 470 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 4: what I remember the other day, maybe last week, somebody 471 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 4: might have tweeted like, oh, like, y'all don't call Kiline 472 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 4: dirty and she has tattoos and someone said, oh, you 473 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 4: must be new here, and everybody was like yeah, because 474 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 4: twenty sixteen to twenty eighteen, that was it. Everybody was 475 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 4: calling me ugly, dirty all everything. And I used to 476 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 4: be what I was fucked up about it like consistently, 477 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 4: and then I just got to a point where I 478 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 4: was like, well, life kind of goes on, and like 479 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 4: I know myself and like there are people that know 480 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 4: me and love me deeply about me and like how 481 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 4: you wash right? Hello, Yes, if you guys would like 482 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 4: to come to my house for a week and don't 483 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 4: check in my shower twice a day and the levels 484 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 4: of aftercare like that's on you guys. But you know 485 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 4: you don't. You can't prove those things to people. People 486 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 4: who already want to be like that are gonna be 487 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 4: like that. 488 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: Regard anyway, Are you still on social media? You got 489 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: off because of that? 490 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 4: No, I had got off for a second. I actually 491 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 4: didn't have Twitter for two years. I just got back 492 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 4: on because it's just what I get back on. Good 493 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 4: mental Oh it's a terrible place. It's a terrible place. 494 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 4: But the people that I need to speak to, my fans. 495 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 4: I once I learned how to really put blinders on, 496 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 4: and not theoretical blinders, but like actual blinders, to be 497 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 4: consistently like this is what matters, and these are the 498 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 4: people that love me. It's been the best thing in 499 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 4: the world. Sometimes I have my moments. Someone yesterday says 500 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 4: some shit to me, like I think Calin is confused 501 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 4: about her sexuality, and I was like, I've been exclusively 502 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 4: dating women for three years and like the music's really gay, 503 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 4: but sure, and it's somebody who like, how am I confused? 504 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 4: I think I'm the least confused I've ever been. 505 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 6: But like. 506 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 4: I left the tweet up for ten seconds and deleted it. 507 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 4: You have you know, you have your moments. 508 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, how did your record label, and I guess just 509 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 5: the industry period react to your advocacy for Palestine. 510 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 4: You know, I think I think we're in a kind 511 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 4: of a loop for so long of like what's safe 512 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 4: to speak about and what's not safe to speak about, 513 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 4: especially with the powers that be being so powerful and 514 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 4: that running so deep. Obviously, my music came out, and 515 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 4: obviously I'm super supportive, so absolutely no problem from my 516 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 4: record label. I have experienced a lot of pushback. I've 517 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 4: experienced a lot of loss. I've experienced a lot of 518 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 4: things that were promised and set up for this rollout 519 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 4: and album to happen, that were supposed to be a 520 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 4: lot of first really yeah, magazines and these things, and 521 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 4: those brand deals and opportunities that were sad to lose 522 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 4: by at the end of the day, like, I don't 523 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 4: I don't regret doing something that I can go to 524 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 4: sleep at night. I can go to sleep knowing that, 525 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 4: like what I learned to be as an artist, I'm 526 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 4: aligned with because I grew up fully understanding, you know, 527 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 4: the role of art in liberation, and and that's not 528 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 4: to place myself in alignment with you know, those artists 529 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 4: and those revolutionary acts. But that's to say, like I 530 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 4: understood what it meant to not be silent, even if 531 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 4: I never you know, put it with the song in 532 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 4: the video, even if just me speaking out, I always 533 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 4: knew what it meant to have a platform and that 534 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 4: responsibility in that way, and like I can go to 535 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 4: sleep knowing that, like I don't, I can look myself 536 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 4: in the mirror, you know, and know that I did, 537 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 4: I did the right thing. 538 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 5: Do these magazines and stuff tell your people why they 539 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 5: say you always hear advocacy. 540 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 4: Of those are really big buildings with a lot of 541 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 4: people involved, so it always makes its way back. 542 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, now you speak. 543 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 5: You also mentioned that your advocacy for Palestine caused a 544 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 5: lot of artists to ignore your collaboration. 545 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 4: So I was talking very fast on a live very 546 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 4: caffeinated early in the morning, and I wasn't able to 547 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 4: like really elaborate on that. There are a lot of 548 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 4: more people involved on artists teams and just the artists. 549 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 4: And it also wasn't everything feature. There were certain people 550 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 4: who didn't get it back in time or it wasn't 551 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 4: aligned with like the timing of their album. I didn't 552 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 4: mean every single artist, but there were artists that I 553 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 4: did reach to when someone on the team was like, 554 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 4: we don't fuck with her, or they said this and 555 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 4: then another thing made its way to me, or like 556 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 4: another like things we know, we know, things travel, we know, 557 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 4: people have conversations, and those people have conversations, and people 558 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 4: were respectful enough to not, you know, text me back 559 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 4: and say, girl, fuck you, I'm Zionists. You know, things 560 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 4: like that. But I wasn't able to really elaborate that 561 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 4: when I and I would never I would never sit 562 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 4: here and name names, because it's not about that. It's 563 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 4: more about how insidious these the industries are and that 564 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 4: we can be so afraid to lose what we've built 565 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 4: because so many of us have come from nothing to 566 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,239 Speaker 4: where we have this scarcity mindset of like I have 567 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 4: to protect what I have going on so hard that 568 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 4: I will do anything to stay in that world to 569 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 4: protect it, because I have to keep feeding my family, 570 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 4: I have to keep you know, building my legacy. I 571 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 4: have to do that. I don't want to chance that. 572 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 4: And it's sad because that thing that does get dangled 573 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 4: in front of our faces when it comes to really 574 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 4: important political matters that people don't align with it's sad, 575 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 4: it's unfortunate, and I don't I'm not mad at anyone. 576 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 4: I'm not holding anything against anyone. I was definitely on 577 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 4: that live like yeah, and by the way, let me 578 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 4: tell y'all about that. But I definitely have those moments 579 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 4: where I'm like, this shit is fucked up. But typically 580 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 4: I'm I'm a longer thinker and I have more to 581 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 4: the thought and it was just unfortunately. 582 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 5: So you understand when artists don't want to speak god 583 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 5: about political or social issue. 584 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: How do you feel about it? Right particular background. 585 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 4: I am the type of person that is very nuanced, 586 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 4: like I understand how people got to most things. It's unfortunate. 587 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 4: I feel like it's unfortunate. I am saddened by it 588 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 4: does make me sad because I really do believe in 589 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 4: our power as people with influence. This is why the 590 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 4: presidents involve music artists. What they've got. They've got all 591 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 4: type of music artists campaigning for for for the president, 592 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 4: say God, they bring it. They bring us out to 593 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 4: sing out all the campaigns, all the events, whenever there's 594 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 4: anything going on. They want us to all get together 595 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 4: and drop a song for it. Like they keep showing 596 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 4: us how powerful we are. There's people there's a younger 597 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 4: generation who don't know what a policy is, but they would. 598 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 4: They know their rappers' favorite songs, they know their R 599 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 4: and B singer's favorite songs, and they will learn about 600 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 4: anything going on in the world if their favorite person 601 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 4: tells them. And I may have expressed it super like 602 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 4: angrily every single time I've talked about it online, but 603 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 4: that's because I understand that also sometimes shame works as 604 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 4: a teacher. So if I got to come on there 605 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 4: and say fuck all of y'all, because wake your ass up, 606 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 4: if you want to sit and have a longer conversation 607 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 4: with me, we can get to this point. But it 608 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 4: has made me viscerally angry so many times to feel like, 609 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 4: look what we could do. And they also wouldn't be 610 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 4: able to hold us back anymore. If we all bended together. 611 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 4: They can't cancel all of us. They could cancel me, 612 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 4: and they'd be like, Okay, we got somebody out of here. 613 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 4: That's cool. They get canceled a couple people that speak up, 614 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 4: but if everybody spoke up, that power imbalance wouldn't exist anymore. 615 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 4: We're just the people united. That's the quote so we 616 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 4: have to like stand on that. 617 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 5: And you raised over a half a million dollars for 618 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 5: Gaza Sudan and the do you think money is the 619 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 5: only way people can help? 620 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 4: Absolutely not. I think in every single issue, the idea 621 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 4: is that you're supposed to listen to the requests of 622 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 4: the people at the core of the issue. You're supposed 623 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 4: to abide by the request of the most oppressed. And 624 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 4: they have asked us to literally speak, like that's the 625 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 4: thing about this whole, Like social media doesn't do anything, 626 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 4: Speaking doesn't do anything. Awareness doesn't do anything. But those 627 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 4: there are people in Congo who are just saying make 628 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 4: our stories heard. There are people in Sudan who go 629 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 4: just speak about us. They're not talking about us on 630 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 4: the news, they're not talking about us in these magazines, 631 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 4: they're not talking about us anywhere. But you guys are 632 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 4: Gaza opened the door for people to even be aware 633 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 4: of Congo and Sudan on a global scale, because those 634 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 4: issues have preceded this genocide. Those genocides have been have 635 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 4: been happening, Those famines that extremely like displacement, those have 636 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,719 Speaker 4: already been existing. And Gaza has opened up the world 637 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 4: to to Haiti, to Yemen to all of these places 638 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 4: that all this is going on. So the least we 639 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 4: can do is share things here and there. And you 640 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 4: don't have to have money, but if you do, you 641 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 4: should put it where your mouth is. 642 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 3: For sure. 643 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask what Kamala Harris, being from from 644 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: your side of town, did y'all ever have a conversation? 645 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 2: Did you ever reach out to her everything that's going 646 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 2: on at all? 647 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 4: I'm not really a big on presidents or they're they're folks. 648 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 4: Not a governmental girl, really. 649 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 5: Like they're not really. I mean there's powering government, but 650 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 5: the real power with the people people. 651 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 7: Absolutely, Yeah, you are a West Coast girl, and girl, 652 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 7: what do you think about who was going for what? 653 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 4: I haven't publicly rooted for anyone, but have you not 654 00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 4: seen me at the club? 655 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 5: Oh? 656 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:09,239 Speaker 4: You could hear me through the soundproof story. I very 657 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 4: much respect both artists. Drake actually named my album it 658 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 4: was good until it was and he showed me a 659 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 4: lot of love over time, like publicly privately. So has 660 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 4: Kendrick like he did. You were having a conversation and 661 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 4: I told him what I wanted to name it, and 662 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 4: then he was like, no, what's going on in life, 663 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 4: and I told him and he was like, and I 664 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I was, honestly it was good until 665 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 4: it wasn't. He was like, if you don't use it 666 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 4: as your album title, I am, And I was like, okay, right, 667 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 4: you're right. It is a very Drake album title. I 668 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 4: think it's it came down to if I'm on some 669 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 4: West Coast shit, I'm from the West. Like I know, 670 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 4: I know how important this unity is of all of us, 671 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 4: and I know how imperative this representation of us is. 672 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 4: Like I love Kendrick. That's the only artist I've ever 673 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 4: stood in the line and like waited to get something 674 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 4: signed for when I was in high school, Like it's 675 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 4: soundtrack to my life. So I have no like personal 676 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 4: entrances in anything. I I'm just as a fan of 677 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 4: the music, just musically, just music. I mean, we have 678 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 4: to respect what we what we saw. 679 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: We saw as base people. 680 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 5: Ever since though, oh my god, hilarious listen when you sing, 681 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 5: not like because it's so catchy. 682 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 4: I have had moments where I was like in the 683 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 4: club and I've seen that it's a club thing, and 684 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 4: I was like, damn, this is crazy. But I also 685 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 4: remember every single big diss track in history being able 686 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 4: to be played for massive groups of people gathering and 687 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 4: it being a thing that everybody is like I was 688 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 4: too young for like the Ether era, but like everybody 689 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 4: talks about it and they're like this was crazy, like. 690 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: This, this is in the club every night though, wasn't 691 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: the club? 692 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 4: I mean back to Back was in the club the club. Yeah, 693 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 4: So it's eras it's moments. Honestly, I'm not in hip hop, 694 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 4: so I can't speak to the sport of it, but 695 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:53,959 Speaker 4: like it's a sport. 696 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 6: I guess you have a. 697 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 5: Text drink like, yo, man, you did your think let 698 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 5: me be ashamed about it? Was all good. No. 699 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 4: I feel like he has real people around him will 700 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 4: hold them down, and I feel like it's taken that 701 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 4: moment to be like, hey, by the way, let me 702 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 4: make sure you know I support you. Yeah, he's got 703 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 4: his folks. Man, you mentioned a tour, are absolutely I 704 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 4: made this album to tours specifically, Like there was so 705 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 4: many sounds where I was like, this is gonna be 706 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 4: so fun to saying, it's gonna be so fun to 707 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 4: dance too, It's gonna be so fun to play with 708 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 4: a band. So absolutely, I think for me, touring is 709 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 4: the epicenter of my like my career, to the point 710 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 4: where sometimes you don't even see you can't even really 711 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 4: tell what's going on with the music streaming and charting wise, 712 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 4: people are like what, And then you come to the 713 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 4: tour and it's these huge venues and people are like, 714 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 4: I actually had no idea because when I look at 715 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 4: how it's doing over there, and it's just a classic 716 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 4: example for me of like impact versus you know, numbers, 717 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 4: and my shows are huge. My shows are a blast. 718 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 4: Everybody has a great time, everybody feels safe, everybody has fun. 719 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 4: Like that. That is what's important to me. So we're 720 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 4: gonna do it again, for sure. 721 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 7: That's what's up, because by then I would have had 722 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 7: my baby and I can get high. 723 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 3: You miss it very much, Okay, Oh yeah, I'm not 724 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 3: like you. I'm going to smoke okay, but not backwards though. 725 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's good. I'm trying to. I'm starting to 726 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 4: get off the backwoods movement with all the friends. 727 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 6: Take care of yoursel medicines. 728 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 4: I like CBD a lot. I like mushrooms and a 729 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 4: lot of mushrooms. Making this album, you might could tell 730 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 4: there's some on here. 731 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that one that you played me, Oh my god? 732 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 3: Which one it was? When, Oh my god, it sounds 733 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 3: like a oh my god, it's like. 734 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 5: If we very next to you. 735 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 7: I don't know, but he had played it, and I 736 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 7: was like, damn, if I sure, I'll probably be like 737 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 7: after hours going crazy. 738 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 3: No, no, I was, I can dance to that one. 739 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 3: But this one just seemed like I have no idea. 740 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 3: I forgot but he. 741 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 7: Was playing it, playing the whole album earlier, but it 742 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 7: was one particular song. 743 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 3: I was like, oh yeah, I'm can't wait to get 744 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 3: out of it that. 745 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 4: I was probably on mushrooms when I made it For you? 746 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:03,239 Speaker 6: Are you? 747 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 5: Are you aware of like the journey in life that 748 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 5: you're going through? And if so, what era would you define? 749 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 5: This era? 750 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 4: So comparatively to where I was at with my last album, 751 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 4: I feel like my last album, I had reached the 752 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 4: ending of what was like toxic positivity and like toxic spirituality, 753 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 4: like almost psychossy, being like really in my like and 754 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 4: not accepting that. Also what comes with that is like 755 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 4: they're really getting into your shadow and really getting into 756 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 4: also like every single part of myself. And now I'm 757 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 4: in this. I feel like this era is just really 758 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 4: standing in it. I feel like I'm down to be 759 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 4: whatever everybody thinks I am. For the first time in 760 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 4: my life. I'm not over here trying to prove anything different. 761 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 4: I'm not over here like I don't care to clear 762 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 4: up anything. I don't care to address anything. I have 763 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 4: nothing to say about any of that. If you think 764 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 4: I suck, let's do it. If you think I'm a 765 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 4: terrible person, let's do If you think I'm the best 766 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 4: person in the world. Thank you. I appreciate you. And 767 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 4: I think that that truly speaks to what you were 768 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 4: saying about how different I feel is that I'm settled 769 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 4: in a way where I'm so at peace with who 770 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 4: I know I am and my court foundation that it's 771 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 4: not going to be rocked by anything else going on. 772 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 6: Great, Thank you. 773 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: The album Crash is out now. What you want to hear, 774 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 2: don't say after hours. We played that already. 775 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 6: Besides that, play Deep Deep one. 776 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 4: That's a fun one. 777 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 2: Deep all right, let's get into Deep right now. Make 778 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: sure you pick up the album if you haven't got 779 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 2: it already, And congratulations on everything. The fact that you're 780 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 2: just happy, you just. 781 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 5: Look that's happy that you are in a place of peace. 782 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 4: I'm super happy. 783 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: Well, it's killiney, ladies and gentlemen. It's the Breakfast 784 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 8: Club in the morning, The Breakfast Club