1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: This is Cowboy Sam and this is Eh John. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 2: And we've last showed. 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: In some amazing stories for y'all the Okay Storytime podcasts. 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: But before that we got a wrangle, a quick, little, 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: too minute outbreak from those bucking sponsors. We bucking love so. 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: Much they're paid us the bucks to help this show 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: stay alive. My former best friend is stalking me. I 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: think they just miss you and trigger warning for stalking 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: and intimidation. Location East Tennessee, USA. 10 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: This is in Knoxville, I or John Johnson, Yes, I 11 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 2: know where this is. 12 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: Well, there you go. I don't think anything illegal has occurred, 13 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: but I think the situation is spiraling in that direction. 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm getting letters in the mail and now phone calls 15 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: at my workplace from a guy I haven't seen in 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: ten years. He won't stop. This has been going on 17 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: for about two years now. I'm really scared he's going 18 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: to show up here. I work at an elementary school 19 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: and it's my worst nightmare that'll come for me freak 20 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: out and innocent children get caught in the crossfire. 21 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: I might know who this is. 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: That's terrifying. By the way, this comes from Hopeful Muppet 23 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: five A two and If you want to smit your 24 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: own stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime supered It. 25 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: I'm Sophia, I'm Riley, I'm kinda from East Tennessee. 26 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm Carly, and we're here to give good advice. Goofy, 27 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: but we don't have all the answers. We only know 28 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: what we'd do, So let us know what you would 29 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: do in the comments and background. This dude used to 30 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,639 Speaker 1: be my best friend in middle school. In high school, 31 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: we talked nerd stuff most of the time, like video 32 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: games and comics. I'm arroace to the core, and I 33 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: was well aware of rumors that he was crushing on me, 34 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: so now and then I would sprinkle my feelings into conversations. 35 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: Dating is gross, stupid, waste of time. I don't like guys, 36 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: et cetera. 37 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: I don't like other guys, is what he heard. 38 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, he said. He said dating is gross when it's 39 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: not you. Dating is stupid when it's not with you. 40 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: Dating is such a waste of time when I'm not 41 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: with you. I don't like guys. 42 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: Unless you's gonna save you from this, don't you worry. 43 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: I thought I covered all my bases, but he still 44 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: asked me out in high school. I said no and 45 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: reiterated that I already informed him that I don't date 46 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: and wasn't interested. He looked like his soul passed away, 47 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: and from that point forward never spoke to me or 48 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: even looked in my direction ever. Again. 49 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: This might have happened to my friend Nina back in 50 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: East Tennessee, Dan, because she also works out elementary school. 51 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: So you might know this guy. 52 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: I don't know the guy that I know. 53 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: OP should text her? I might this year. 54 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 2: Bro, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm going to fast. 55 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: Forward to two years ago. I got a letter in 56 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: the school's mailbox, a handwritten letter with brown stains all 57 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: over it, asking how I've been and now it's so 58 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: crazy ten years have past, and asking to meet up again. 59 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: He left his phone number, email, and address. I'm not stupid. 60 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: It's obviously sketchy as heck, so I ignored it. Then 61 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: I got another one a few months later, identical down 62 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: to the letter, Then another several months after that. The 63 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: third one I threw in the trash. The fourth one 64 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: returned to send her with the paper of my own stating, 65 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: do not contact me this morning. Our front office is 66 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: getting repeated calls asking for me. I panicked, pretended I 67 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: couldn't hear him, and hung up. I'm afraid to ask 68 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: if he's still calling, what can I do now? I 69 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: already called the post office and they stopped him from 70 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: sending mail, and it's not illegal to make phone calls. 71 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: My instincts are right ninety nine percent of the time, 72 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: and my gut is telling me things are going to escalate. 73 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: I briefly entertain calling his local police department to talk 74 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: to him, but I don't know if that's the thing 75 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm allowed to do. You don't know until you try. 76 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: I've never had problems like this before. Can someone please 77 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: point me in the right direction? Please? And there are 78 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: some relevant comments. 79 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: I waity remember a story yeah where this take was 80 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: very effective. 81 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 82 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: What this person is They got a boyfriend, and this 83 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: boyfriend stalked their stalk and then that scared their stocker away. 84 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: Eh yeah, well there you go. And then the stalker 85 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: that was stalking in the first place found out about 86 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: the person that was stalking them was like, I'm very uncomfortable. 87 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: This is really ye oh yeah I read this story. 88 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I think you need to find a stalker 89 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: for your stalkers, so they can get a taste of 90 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: their own blood. 91 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: Taste of their own blood, yeah. 92 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 2: The stock's blood. Yeah, not of their own blood, that's 93 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 2: what they say. 94 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: That's insane, right, taste of your own medicine. 95 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: It's not blood. 96 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: Common one. 97 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: I've been hanging out with too many vampires. 98 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: Then I would imagine that you have shut down social 99 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: media content. You need to bring this to your employer's 100 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: attention immediately. Stop hiding it. Make it known how scared 101 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: you are. People can't keep eyes open if you keep 102 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: your mouth shut. You need to alert friends and family. 103 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: People need to hear it. Security camera needs to go 104 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: up inside and outside of all doors, check windows and 105 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: lock them down if they open up and down at 106 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: a wooden bar, there are manual door alarms that you 107 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: can buy cheaply online. They stick to the door with 108 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: adhesive or a screw and make an obnoxiously loud sound 109 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: of your preference should a door be open. You can 110 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: get the same alarms for windows. To reach out to 111 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: a lawyer for education about your rights. They might be 112 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: able to write something to spook the butt hat away, 113 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: but they can also teach you what steps you should 114 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: take to build an intimidation case. A consultation with a 115 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: lawyer is worth a couple hundred bucks for peace of mind. 116 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: You can also speak with your local police to learn 117 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: how these situations are handled in your area. Calling the 118 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: non emergency line or going to the station is the 119 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: best method for that. Stop throwing away the letters. You 120 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 1: need them if you ever go to court. Every email, 121 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: every text, every phone call needs to be logged. Keep 122 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: track of the time, date, phone number, any messages left, 123 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: make paper trails. Just don't sit there hiding in fear. 124 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: That's probably the most dangerous thing you can do in 125 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: a stalking situation. Be loud, be vigilant. Oh P says, thankfully, 126 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: I kept the original letter just in case because I'm paranoid. 127 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: My principal got our school officer and detective involved. He 128 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: thinks I have enough information to get a restraining order 129 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: and possibly press charges. I already have security cameras around 130 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: my home, and my workplace has cameras everywhere. They even 131 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: changed my schedule so that I'm never alone. I'm grateful 132 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: I work with good people. 133 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: Dude, that's an awesome work place. 134 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, they all have your back, and that's the most 135 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: important thing. I'm glad that you reached out to them 136 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: and let them know, and you got a detective involved. 137 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: You are absolutely right. I was hoping he would give up, 138 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: but he's clearly sick and needs help. But now I 139 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: have no choice. I can't let him near these students. 140 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: I love them like my own is there. 141 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: I've seen a YouTube channel, yeah, where this girl is 142 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: breaking up with her very like really bad realized ship 143 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: X and these guys come and they're like here for her, 144 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: and they're like, hey, man, you gotta leave, and they're 145 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: like kind of her protectors. There's something we can do there, 146 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: like higher protectors or like get a big brother involved. 147 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: I don't even. But the thing is, I don't know 148 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: if she knows where he lives or at least specifically, 149 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: because he's just sending like letters and stuff. 150 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 2: No return addresses on it. This guy's yeah, I don't 151 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: go wild. 152 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 3: Would he sends something back return to sender? 153 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you that just goes return to center, But. 154 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 3: They'd need the return address to know how to return 155 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 3: it to the sender. 156 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: That's true. It probably would have an address on it, 157 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: So I guess you could reach out to him, but 158 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: probably yeah, you know, so probably just do detective stuff. 159 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: Guys. I'm getting together a business called working on the name, 160 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: But essentially we come to your stalker's house, tell him 161 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,559 Speaker 2: no more, beat him up, and we have a team 162 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: of how to locate them, and we have like what 163 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: I need to be skilled? Yes, tall people. I need 164 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: big scary looking guys that have the heart of a 165 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: teddy bear, but like are also incidating. If you have them, 166 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: send me their contact information. Yeah, please, I would love 167 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: to call them. 168 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: What is this some kind of suicide squad? 169 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, if they got some jail time but they 170 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: came out of it great. Also is yeah, it's a 171 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: part better. Yeah, it's hard for people like coming out 172 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 2: of jotaphone jobs. I will give them a job. 173 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: Give him a job. 174 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: Also, what chat pointed out, I just double checked he 175 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 3: left his phone, email and address in the letter. 176 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: Good point. So yeah, send that to the detective. 177 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: Here we go. 178 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: Comment too, this isn't a mite. You are being hassled 179 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: and stalked and you have a right to be left alone. 180 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: Here's some steps you can take to assert that legal right. 181 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: Send a cease and desist letter, return receipt requested. You 182 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: don't need a lawyer for this, but if you can 183 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: afford an hour of one's time and think it would 184 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: give you a peace of mind, have a lawyer do it. 185 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: You'd probably want a lawyer that is experienced in family law. 186 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: The cease and assist letters should tell him to not 187 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: contact you in any way and that you will be 188 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: pursuing a restraining order against him if he contacts you again. 189 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: There are free templates for this that you can trivially 190 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: find online. This gives you documentation that one you told 191 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: them to go away, Two he received your message telling 192 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: him to go away or refused, but refusing a certified 193 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: letter isn't a strong defense, and three the exact time 194 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: when he received your message telling him to go away. 195 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: Tell your employer that this guy is stocking you, to 196 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: not forward any calls, not let him in on premises, 197 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: and that you're looking into restraining order. If you hear 198 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: from him again, go to your local police department and 199 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: request a restraining order. You can do this right now, too, 200 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: but more documentation equals better. You can also go to 201 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: the police in the town he lives in, but it's 202 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: probably easier to go to your town's police department. Plus 203 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 1: his might tell you to handle it in your locality. 204 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: They shouldn't tell you to bug off, but it's very 205 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: possible that they might keep all the documents on hand. Also, 206 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: ideally back them up in eycloud or whatever cloud storage 207 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: service your phone is easy backups to. If he has 208 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: a restraining order served against him, his local cop should 209 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: confiscate any weapons he might have. I wish you the 210 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: best of luck, and OP says, thank you so much 211 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: for the tips. Our resource officer is involved now and 212 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: we are getting set for a restraining order. Apparently he 213 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: called again talking crazy stuff, so the detective wants to 214 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: press charges to keep them away from the area. And 215 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: there is an update. 216 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: I also got an update. What so instead of me 217 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: making this company, there's already a system in place. Biker 218 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 2: gangs there you go. Sorry, sorry, biker clubs. 219 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: Biker clubs, just like in Veronica, Mars. Yeah, gets the 220 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: biker club on our side. 221 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 2: I think maybe hitting up if you are going through 222 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 2: some of this, hitting up your local biker club, explaining 223 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: the situation, and I think they would actually love to 224 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: help you out. 225 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: Bring them some cookies. Yeah, I think you could work. 226 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 2: I feel like they like simple chocolate too. 227 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: They like their chocolate chip kind of people. 228 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: Maybe peanut butter. 229 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: Oh well, but you don't want to worry about allergies. 230 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: I don't think you can have a peanut butter allergy 231 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: and pean a biker club. 232 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: They're not extensive. I don't think they're exclusive. 233 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, oh man, I thought they like rub peanut 234 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: butter on whoever, just to make sure, Oh he's good. 235 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: One month later, I posted on here a little over 236 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: a month ago, asking for advice on an uncomfortable situation. 237 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was fair to update since I got 238 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: advice from you nice people. All right, here's the update. 239 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: A few hours after our court session. It felt like 240 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: a disaster. I was a wrex, so I probably didn't 241 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: explain as much as I could, but I told the 242 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: judge how uncomfortable I was and that I wanted to 243 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: be left alone. I was visibly shaking and crying while 244 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: I tried to explain the situation. Although no threats were made, 245 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: I was still uncomfortable. The judge offered us two choices, 246 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: a mutual restraining order so neither of us was allowed 247 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: to contact the other, or a trial if someone wanted 248 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: to dispute the order. His mother was loudly whispering agree, 249 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: just agree. I agreed, He however, did not. According to him, 250 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: I was wasting everyone's time with misunderstandings and false statements. 251 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: We have so much proof that you yourself have given, 252 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: literally proves that you are. 253 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: So guilty, But Sophia can't reason with the fool true guys. 254 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: Man is a fool. Straight yeah, He stated I was 255 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: one of multiple people he was trying to reconnect with, 256 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: and that I was exaggerating the number of letters he sent. 257 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: He claims too, but I got four and only kept one, 258 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: which I brought to court. He put all the blame 259 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: on me for not speaking to him. He also said 260 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: he never received my note telling him not to contact me. 261 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: He got in trouble multiple times for speaking out of 262 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: turn and constantly putting his hands in his pockets. He 263 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: spoke and gestured dramatically like he was on some kind 264 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: of TV show. Everyone in the room looked confused and uncomfortable. 265 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: The judge even stopped more than once to question the 266 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: fact that this guy insists he isn't a stalker, but 267 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: also refuses the restraining order at the same time. Unfortunately, 268 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: because he claims to not know that I didn't want 269 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: to communicate with him, I can't get a restraining order. 270 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: That is not how that works. 271 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 2: Man. 272 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: Apparently ignoring his attempts for two years doesn't automatically equate 273 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: to I don't want to talk. 274 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: The judge did send a letter back thing, don't contact me. 275 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: Well, he's saying that I didn't get that letter. That 276 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: was his excuse. So now oh, he's saying, I never 277 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: knew that you didn't want to talk to me, and 278 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: so oh, he's like, well, even if you didn't get 279 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: the letter, I would think that not talking to you 280 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: also maybe. 281 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: If you're talking to someone and they're not responding, Abe, 282 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: that's a hint. 283 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: The judge did give him a stern warning to leave 284 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: me alone and that any more calls or letters will 285 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: result in bigger consequences. 286 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 2: Okay, at least we're leaving with this. 287 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, at least we've got the law on your side. Op, 288 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: he's gotta be in bait trouble. The officer stayed at 289 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: my side the whole time and even kept him in 290 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: the courtroom longer to give me time to leave without 291 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: being seen by him. So there's a little bit left. 292 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: I feel like, OHP's got it. All handled. That is 293 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: such a scary situation, but I do appreciate that it 294 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: seems like she had everyone on her side. She went, 295 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: got a lawyer, got to court, So it seems like 296 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: you're doing everything you can. Scary situation, but like you're 297 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: handling it well. 298 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 2: Only I've been in one encounter where I didn't feel safe, 299 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: and it was between like two guys and a girl, 300 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: and I was still like, ah, I feel uncomfortable, like 301 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: something could happen here, and I just like, it's not 302 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: no fun going through this. Have you guys ever been 303 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 2: through I had a. 304 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: Well, somewhat recently. I guess it's not like a terrible 305 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: it's not a bad, bad situation, and it's not technically stalking. 306 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: But there's this guy that I went to college with 307 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: who I never met at college but knew of and 308 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: he did not have the best reputation in college either. 309 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: Oh that keeps coming to my plays and to try 310 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: and ask me out, and I'm like, please stop. Ye, like, 311 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: I never respond to him. He wasn't. He wasn't this one. 312 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: I think he hopefully is my boyfriend. 313 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: Oh your boyfriend? Okay, wouldn't say that now, ye boyfriend? 314 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: So I guess that's all I can do. Hope for 315 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: the best. Is there anything else I can do to 316 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: protect myself? I don't really blame the judge on the technicality, 317 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean I'm not still paranoid and uncomfortable. 318 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: At least there were plenty of witnesses to his strange behavior. Today. 319 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm hoping this is the end of it, but I 320 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: still feel scared. Is there anything else I can do? 321 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: And some relevant comments? Says common One says, don't be 322 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: yourself up. Sounds like you did great. Everyone can see 323 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: what you can see, the judge, his mom, the officers, everyone, 324 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: And while you didn't get what you wanted, you laid 325 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: the first step. Next time he contacts you in any way, 326 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: you'll have a clear path to getting the restraining order 327 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: you want. But chances are you never hear from him again. 328 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: And besides, you don't want a mutual restraining order that 329 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: beyond your record too. Hope he says, I never thought 330 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: about it like that. I guess everything worked out as 331 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: well as it could. Thank you for changing my perspective. 332 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: Comment to says, I am not a lawyer. I am 333 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: not your lawyer. I would submit that bigger consequences for 334 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: any more calls and letters should probably serve about as 335 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: well as a deterrent as a restraining order. A restraining 336 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: order would still mean that you would need to alert 337 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: someone if you did contact you again. Obviously, and unfortunately, 338 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: a restraining order is not a magical bubble. What you 339 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: have is different from a restraining order and will likely 340 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: involve a different process if more happens. But it sounds 341 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: like he has a guarantee of serious consequence if he 342 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: contacts you again. Either way, perhaps that is worth some solace. Oh, 343 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: he says. Everyone keeps telling me to calm down, and 344 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying my best. You're right that the results are 345 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: pretty much the same either way. I just need to 346 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: deal with this paranoia for a while. Thank you for 347 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: your kind words. Comment Thri says, Unfortunately, our legal system 348 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: is usually a process. It's rarely one and done. You've 349 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: taken the first step and made his behavior known, and 350 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: now he's been warned by the judge. You also now 351 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: know to document everything. If any more letters show up, 352 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: save them and alert the police immediately. Also ensure your 353 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: employer documents any calls from him and alerts the police 354 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: immediately if he does call. I'm guessing he'll stop, but 355 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: if he doesn't, you're now one step closer to him 356 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: facing real consequences. And Op says, thankfully, our school has 357 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: great security, tons of cameras and an attentive soro. She 358 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: tells me often that they have my back. Plus she's 359 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: good friends with our towns detective. You have a town's 360 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: to detective. 361 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: Set of a city detective. Do those city detectives are 362 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: very like snobby? 363 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: Well, I feel like, yeah, you just got a small 364 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: town detective. He wears a little fedora and a coat, 365 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: and he goes around smoking a little bubble pipe. 366 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: Mmmm, bubble bar ash. 367 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: I think we've cut the criminal bubble bubble comment for 368 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: cameras can help provide proof he is physically following you. 369 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: Most folks are a lot less clever than they think 370 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: they are. Cameras for home. If you feel he might 371 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: be stalking you on foot, you can put a rear 372 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: facing go pro type on a backpack. Oh, pieces, cameras 373 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: are a must. I have them facing all parts of 374 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: my property and with motion sensors they definitely give me 375 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 1: a little piece of mind. Mine are set to flash 376 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: bright lights if something activates the motion sensors. A few 377 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: years ago. It's spooked a guy trying to get into 378 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: my mother's car. When the lights came on, he took 379 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: off running. I recommend the ring system to anyone. And 380 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: that is the end of that story. 381 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: I'm just glad this one turned out pretty good. Yeah, 382 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: not what we wanted. We wanted the restraining order. 383 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: But like you know, it can be so much worse. 384 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: But we put the fear of the judicial system in 385 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: the judicial system. That worked out well. Yeah, my friend 386 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: is forcing me to learn the violin in one year 387 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: for her wedding. Why. I, twenty three female, have a 388 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: friend twenty two female from school who asked me to 389 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 2: be in her wedding over lunch today. I have known 390 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: this girl for about two years and because we share 391 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 2: the same major, we are school friends. We partner up 392 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 2: in classes, do projects together, et cetera. But I don't 393 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,719 Speaker 2: really know or hang out with her outside of this setting. 394 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: You don't hang out with her. 395 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 2: Basically, schoolwork that's all they do. 396 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: And to learn the violin, that's that's like. Imagine imagine 397 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: like some guy or some person in your class. Yeah, 398 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: and you're having like you're getting married and you reach 399 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: out to them and you're like, hey, I know you 400 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: know how we took like psych one O one together. 401 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: I need you to learn the violin immediately. Now start working. 402 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: Anyway, she asked me to be in her wedding, and 403 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: I assume she meant as a bride'smaid, but I was wrong. 404 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Breeze Blocks. And if 405 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: you'reic to my own stories, go to the r slash 406 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: okay story to I'm sub reddit and we're here to 407 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 2: give good advice. Goofully. But we don't have all the answers. 408 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: We may seem like we do, but we don't. But 409 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 2: if you have anything you'd like to add, please edit 410 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 2: below in the comments. We'd love to read them. So, 411 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: he continues. She said she had a dream of her 412 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 2: perfect wedding and it was so beautiful. She woke up crying, 413 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 2: wrote it all down and cried for hours because it 414 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 2: was just so beautiful and perfect. She even made some 415 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: sketches and said that this was a vision from God 416 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: from her wedding. She couldn't even explain the warmth and 417 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 2: ecstatic love to me because she didn't have the words, 418 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: but that she would do anything to capture it perfectly. 419 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: I believe her. 420 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: She's like, she's like sobbing. She's like, oh, p you 421 00:19:55,080 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: don't understand. I need a giant spider to be tap dancing, okay, 422 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: and I need you to come in. It's beautiful. It 423 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: was really beautiful. I need you to come in in 424 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: a clown suit. 425 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 2: This isn't Harry Potter. 426 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was. Yeah, that's the only thing I could. 427 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: What are your dreams like so far? 428 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of a crazy dream that that she's 429 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: basing her wedding off of. Ah. 430 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: I see, it was a joke. It was a joke. 431 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 2: It was joke. I believe the vision from God. Yeah, 432 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: I do believe that he can bless people with uh 433 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: with through dreams. It just depends on if you know 434 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: tap dancing spiders are involved or not. 435 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: I had a dream that I was driving on the 436 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: highway and some guy motioned for me to pull roll 437 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: down my window and I was like no, So I 438 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: rolled down a little bit and then he sticks. He 439 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: goes to stick his hand and so I try to 440 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: roll it up, but his hand's blocking, so I roll 441 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: it down more. He like reaches warding yanks me out 442 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: of my car, and I woke up and then I 443 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: turned and like in my adult sleep like sleep state, 444 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: thought I saw something like yelled, and then like went 445 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: under the covers for like five minutes, and then I 446 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: was like, wait, what's going on? And then I fully 447 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: woke up and was like, I'm fine, and that's a 448 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: vision from God or my wedding plans. 449 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 2: We're your wedding plans. What about you, Carly? What's your 450 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: latest dream? 451 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 3: I have really weird dreams. My latest dream h included 452 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 3: dream Keon being a little witch boy. 453 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: Okay, I was mad at him. 454 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: I woke up and I was like, dream Keon, dream 455 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 3: Keon's in trouble. 456 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: Oh I thought you meant like he was a witch. No, 457 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: you mean like be born? Yeah, okay, gotcha? 458 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah yeah. 459 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: I was like he's been a little a hole. I 460 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: got you. 461 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 3: You were in it too, though. 462 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: You were lovely. Ah shus, thanks, You're not in my dreams. 463 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: Okay, girlways mean to me. She then likened herself to 464 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: an artist with divine inspiration and went on for about 465 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 2: twenty minutes about the details of her inspiration and how 466 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 2: beautiful and uniting this wedding would be that would change 467 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: lives and be so much more than a ceremony, and 468 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: that the execution was so perfect it would be more 469 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: of a visual statement, an artistic dedication to love that 470 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 2: everyone will be living a part of Okay, I kind 471 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 2: of like this, in this beautiful, perfect wedding, I'm to 472 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 2: be at the front line of the aisle, playing the 473 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 2: violin as her guests arrive in a long white gown, 474 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: feathered and beaded and soft. Very romantic. I will know 475 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 2: it whenever I see it, I laughed and told her 476 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: I've never played the violin before. Ana such may have 477 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 2: a hard time performing for her guests. She told me 478 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: that I had a year to learn it and that 479 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 2: this was extremely important to her. 480 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: She's looking at you, and she says, I need you 481 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: to play the violin, and I need you to play 482 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 1: it like no one's ever played before. 483 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: I like how this is so beautiful to her. This 484 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 2: might work out. It may be more than just a wedding. 485 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 2: It might be like the best thing since sliced bread. 486 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: You're about to be a famous violin player. Yeah, I 487 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: can only think of a cello players. Yoom. That's the 488 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: only one I had to You're about to be the 489 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: next yo yo ma. If you played the violin. 490 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: Wrong strings the next and Sophie muttered about to be 491 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 3: the next and Sophie mutter. 492 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 2: I looked at what I could of her beautiful wedding notes. 493 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: They seemed really intense, lots of stuff, fevershly circled or 494 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: written over and over like inspect what you expect repeatedly 495 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: and all in white, literally scribbled over other words, copied 496 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 2: into big paragraphs. The part she showed me of my 497 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 2: role just said my name, violent, soft, complex, beautiful and 498 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: integrate concerto, lots of details, while the guests. 499 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: It's just nonsense. Yeah, I can't. I can't even like 500 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: the guess the dreams white concerto crescendos like this threat 501 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: from a bad woman. 502 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of leaning towards that now. I don't 503 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: know how to play the violin at all. I've literally 504 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 2: never touched one, probably don't even know what it looks like. 505 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: Do I hold it here like a guitar. 506 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: Shannon feverish and flitting from topic to topic, talking about 507 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: how maybe I can compose something. But she wanted it 508 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 2: to sound so intricate that no one would believe it 509 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 2: was just one person playing it. Beyond normal bride stuff. 510 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: So she wants you to not only play the violin 511 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: at her wedding, have. 512 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 2: Multiple layers of a violin plane, but also play the 513 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: violin in a way that no one's ever played a 514 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: violin before. 515 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 3: Just don't learn to play the violin. Yeah, and then 516 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 3: it'll sound like no one's ever heard before. 517 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 2: So true. 518 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: Oh pee, I'm gonna teach you a little. 519 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna teach you another one. 520 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you do. You go up to her 521 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: and you just say no, that's about it. 522 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 2: Or if you actually love this person, you say yes. 523 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 2: You dedicate every single free second. 524 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: Of your life violin, and then you become the next 525 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: Lindsay Sterling. 526 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: When I told her, even if I did have a 527 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: year to learn how to play, it would be basic 528 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: at best, she slammed her hand on the table and said, stop, 529 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 2: my god, and she went right back to her cherry, 530 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: exciting talk about her divine wedding. She don't high off 531 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 2: this thing. 532 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she's actually having a mental breakdown. 533 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: I very gently tried to refuse and offer to find 534 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: a professional play for her. She just said, hm, no, no, 535 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 2: has to be you. I'm sure of it, and went 536 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: back to talking as if I had suggested wearing a 537 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: hat to the beach. 538 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: This is a prophecy, now, oh. 539 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: She then dropped a bomb. Besides, I already bought your violin, 540 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: and it was almost two thousand dollars. 541 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: Okay, op, genuinely, you gotta start learning how to play 542 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: the violin. She just bought you a two thousand dollars violin. 543 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: She's gonna give you a two thousand dollars violin, maybe 544 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: for free. 545 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 2: What I don't know how to play. I told her 546 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: she was being insane, but she kept making no noises 547 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: or putting up her hands, saying enough. Eventually, she told 548 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: me the violin would be here in a few weeks 549 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: and that I needed to find someone who gives lessons 550 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 2: and learn. She said she believed in me. 551 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: Do it for the plot. 552 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: Learn. She told me that worst case scenario, I get 553 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 2: to learn a skill most people would love to learn, 554 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 2: and that if I do well, I give the violin. 555 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 2: It's a payment. I don't want a violin. I don't 556 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 2: want to play. Then she left, and here I am founded. Okay, 557 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 2: this is where I have problem. 558 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: I think you have to do it now, No, I 559 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: think so. Now we've swapped. Now, I really want you 560 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: to do it. 561 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: I was thinking there was going to be payment at 562 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 2: the other end of this. No, two thousand dollars violin 563 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: that's going to depreciate by the time over a year. 564 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: I think. I think, you tell her you how to 565 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: pay for my lessons, and then I'll do it. 566 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: I think, lessons and time, free. 567 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 3: Violin, pay for my lessons and pay for my time 568 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 3: at the wedding, at the wedding, and then the violin. 569 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: No, no, no, but pay for the lessons as you're learning it. 570 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 3: I said that, I said, I said, free violin, pay 571 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 3: for my lessons, and potentially pay for me to play 572 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 3: at your wedding, because now I'm a professional violin player. 573 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: Now I've learned how to professionally play. 574 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 2: But I thought, like paying as you're learning kind of thing. 575 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to learn. Yeah, but see I want to. 576 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm doing this for you. 577 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: All right, all right, all right, all right, realistically, Angie, 578 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 2: I'm getting married September thirtieth next year. Yeah, no joke. 579 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: Actually I want you to be play the violin ten number. 580 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: To play the violin. 581 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, wait are you playing? Are you paying for the violin? 582 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 3: I'm paying you just ten thousand flat yes, to get 583 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 3: a violin lap Yeah. 584 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 585 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 3: You can buy such a cheap violin and still do 586 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 3: the same, Like I don't need a two thousand dollars violin. 587 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: Can buy one thousand dollars I do, I mean would 588 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: I'm buying a one thousand dollars violin, and then I'm 589 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: spending you know, let's say like one fifty per lesson, 590 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: like for the best of the best. I'm getting so 591 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: good at the violin, I'm doing it. I totally. If 592 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: I was ope and the person said that she would 593 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: pay for lessons, I would do it. 594 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 3: My thing with the needing payment for the wedding too, 595 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 3: is I can already tell how crazy this girl is 596 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 3: going to be about her wedding, and I need like 597 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 3: that kind of damages. 598 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: We take a biology together and did lamps. I don't 599 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 2: know your favorite color. I don't even know where you 600 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: came from. I don't even know where. 601 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: Who are you getting married to? 602 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, because she also only gets to keep the violin 603 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 3: if the bride think she does well. 604 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't exactly cut ties and run. It is 605 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: summer now, but we have a together currently and three 606 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: classes together in the fall. I can only see her 607 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 2: getting crazier about this. She's always had a flare for 608 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 2: the dramatics, but she's never been this extreme before. I'm 609 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: not sure if this is just megabridezilla energy and she 610 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: will get over it, or if I should just pretend 611 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: I don't know her, or if I should call a 612 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 2: looney bin to come pick her up, or just take 613 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: up the violin and hope whatever God of weddings visit 614 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: her grants meet magical powers. 615 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: I really hope that all these relevant commons say, do 616 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: it for. 617 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: The plot, for the plot, do it down asaur train. Honestly, 618 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: she sounds like she's dealing with a mental illness. Yes, 619 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: this is typically the age that schizophrenia kicks in. She 620 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: likely doesn't know she has it, nor does anyone else 621 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: who loves her and can help her. If I were you, 622 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: I would approach her fiance, her family, and school mental health. 623 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 2: She's not Bridezilla. She's a very sick woman in need 624 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: of help. You didn't ask to be in this position, 625 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: but you are. You need to get other people involved 626 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: in helping her. 627 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that's good advice. Alternate advice, we freaky Friday. 628 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: This you pretend like you're playing the violin, but you 629 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: get a professional violin. 630 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 3: Behind a curtain. Yes, someone pulls it down the curtain paint. 631 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: Pay no attention to that. Yeah, I got you two 632 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 3: violin players. 633 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 2: Obi says, I guess I can try and shoot him 634 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: a message to the fiance. God is my co pilot, says, 635 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: I think you should mention something to her fiance or family. 636 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: Sounds like it is potentially very serious. Not a temper 637 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: tantrum or demands. Something is very wrong, Obi says, Facebook 638 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: friends with her fiance. What do I even say? I'm 639 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: sure she's told him about this dream of hers. I 640 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: mean she like immediately bought a two thousand dollars us. 641 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's definitely a little man. 642 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'll say all that. 643 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 2: What Obi says, how are they affording the wedding? She's 644 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 2: not rich, I know. No fiance is in the army. 645 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 2: She's a student who works part time at the Mexican 646 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: chain restaurant on campus. I really don't care to learn 647 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: the violin, even if she wasn't expecting some kind of 648 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: a magic I don't think she is sane enough for 649 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 2: me to take her up on the offer. And two 650 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: thousand dollars on a violin seems crazy for a beginner. Anyways, Okay, 651 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: now I'm like, we got shift gears here. She's not rich. 652 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: I thought she had some bank behind na. 653 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: She doesn't have that. I mean, she's in like school, 654 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: doesn't have that money. Definitely get family members involved, any 655 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: mental health professional. This is is getting a little not good, 656 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: a lot of not good, or you learn the violin. 657 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 2: I was really hoping for her not to be going. 658 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: I really hope hoping that it'd be kind of a 659 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: Joan of Arc situation. 660 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: That's what I thought at the beginning, but now, like 661 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: Jon of Arc, I was hoping for that. Nope. At 662 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: first it was kind of funny imagining the awkward swing 663 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: that would commence. Then it was horrifying. It was troubling 664 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: and really really sad. So did fonce a message on Facebook. 665 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: He has seen it, but he hasn't responded. I also 666 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: can't believe she spent so much money on a violin 667 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 2: on someone who can't even play even in a year's time. 668 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: How the f can anyone play so well they'd fool 669 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: people into thinking multiple people were playing? Is that even possible? 670 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 2: And we have an update? 671 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: I want to hear the rest of the wedding personally. 672 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: If this is just one aspect of the wedding, what 673 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: else is happening here? 674 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: What is a husband doing? 675 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 676 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 2: How is he getting into it? Is he like you know? 677 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: Does he have a white horsetro? Is he like white horse? 678 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 2: Roses and doves are flying everywhere? 679 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: He comes down in like a hot air balloon, continuing 680 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: the Wizard of Oz theme. 681 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 2: Yep, what's up with you today? 682 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just your dream. 683 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 3: Sophia had a dream last night too. 684 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, you have to learn how to play the 685 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: obo in five years. 686 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 2: Update, it's Sam. 687 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the stories. But here's three 688 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: minutes bads from our sponsors. 689 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: Asians are still twenty three female and twenty two female, 690 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: and the link of the relationship is two years. I 691 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: sent him out a fine post to her fiance and 692 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: added after, I'm really worried because this seems pretty mentally unstable, 693 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: way beyond normal bride stuff. I got this reply on 694 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: Facebook from her not a fiance at around two pm today. 695 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 2: I didn't see it because she deleted me from her 696 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 2: friends and it went to a different mailbox. Facebook is weird. 697 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for trying to tell my husband I'm crazy. 698 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: Thank god he understands what it's like to love someone 699 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: and what planning a wedding is all about. Excuse me, 700 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 2: I have a dream that I'm passionate about. Trust me, 701 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 2: if you ever get a ring with that attitude, you 702 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 2: will understand too. But I doubt it. Nice try trying 703 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: to get in between us. But guess what, sweetie, nothing 704 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: can tear us apart, least of all you. Ha ha ha. 705 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 2: You are clearly jealous, and that makes me feel really 706 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 2: bad for you. I flipping it, dude, think. 707 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: You're jealous of my perfect wedding. 708 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 2: Then about an hour ago, I got a message from 709 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 2: her fiance, a long message. The DODR is that she 710 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 2: went completely nuts on a floorist because she's gonna do 711 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: her entire wedding in Syria. Hysteria. How dare you? She 712 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 2: almost got arrested for making a scene in this store. 713 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: He also found out she spent her financial aid slash 714 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: student loan money for the second half of the summer 715 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 2: and the fall on random wedding stuff, including my violin, 716 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 2: and has been booking venue tours and tasting with ridiculously 717 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: expensive prices anyone is familiar with Texas. She is looking 718 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 2: at doing her wedding in a giant castle in the 719 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 2: ritzy Lake Travis area of Austin, near the huge, multi 720 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: million dollar mansions. But where is this? 721 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: Oh boy, you don't have that money, girl. 722 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 2: He told her about the need for a budget and 723 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: being realistic. She threw an epic fit. At this point, 724 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 2: she left and went to her sister's house. Message it back, 725 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 2: saying that she may beat pipolar and in the manick state, 726 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 2: and suggesting asking her sister to maybe get her to 727 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 2: a doctor. He was more upset and focused on being 728 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 2: hurt at what she had said to him about the 729 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 2: wedding than her. She also threw a tantrum and accused 730 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: us of sleeping together. 731 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is not this is not normal. Definitely 732 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: something is going on. 733 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 2: This isn't fun anymore. 734 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 1: I just wanted a violin. 735 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 2: Sorry, I wanted a fiddle to be played. 736 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: I just wanted this to be a happier version of 737 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: your lie in April. 738 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 2: I told him that, needless to say, I would not 739 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 2: be playing the violin in their wedding, and I was 740 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 2: sorry for any trouble. But I really did think it 741 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 2: was best he seeks some mental help for her. He said, 742 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 2: you made your point. You don't need to rub it in. 743 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 2: I can take care of my family. 744 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: Well, he's a little nasty too, you made. 745 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 2: I told him I understood and wish them the best 746 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: and that I guess that's it. I didn' see her 747 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 2: in class today and looks like she won't be coming 748 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: back for fall unless she has a plan to get 749 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 2: more money. 750 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: Oof. 751 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 2: Thank you for the help everyone, I really did appreciate 752 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 2: having a few hundred friends in this Commerce says we 753 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 2: demand the long message from the fiance please, Ope says no. 754 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 2: Something feels kind of sleazy about doing that. I did 755 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: the update, but there's a difference to me between telling 756 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 2: people the outcome of something that happened to me and 757 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 2: copying out a message about someone I don't know. It 758 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 2: seems shady and there's some details in it. I'm sure 759 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 2: he would be embarrassed to have out there. She made 760 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 2: a scene and spent all of her money ere march 761 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 2: for school. Use your imagination for the rest. Oh man, 762 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 2: we got one more comment here, honestly, hope he doesn't 763 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: even reply. So, yeah, I think this woman needs some help. 764 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: Yep. 765 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 2: Yep, but that was a good one. 766 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: I feel unwelcome at my friends Quinsaneta, so I'm not 767 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: going Well that settles that. And this comes directly from 768 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: the r slash Okay story Time Separate. So for context, 769 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm gender fluid and eighteen years old. I'll name the 770 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: birthday girl Rose. I met Rose in the hospital as 771 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,479 Speaker 1: a newborn. My dad actually became friends with Rose's dad 772 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 1: before I was even born, I believe sometime in the nineties. 773 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: I love Rose as a sister and always wanted to 774 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: be your friend. By the way, this comes from Sleepy Sheeps. 775 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: And if you want to submit your own stories, go 776 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: to the r slash Okay Storytime Separated. Then we're here 777 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: to give good advice. Goofy. But we don't have all 778 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: the answers. We only know what we'd do, so let 779 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: us know what you would do in the comments, and 780 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: op says. She of course, like most young children, was 781 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: super shy from the moment she started walking and talking. 782 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: Over time, as her dad spent more time at my house, 783 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: she got closer to me. We became best friends, and 784 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 1: she even admitted years ago that I'm like an older 785 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 1: sister to her. We had lots of sleepovers throughout the years, 786 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 1: and on days her parents wouldn't be home, she stayed 787 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: with me. She was my next door neighbor. Because our 788 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: families loved being around each other so much, they had 789 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 1: to live next door. We were even starting to think 790 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: about tearing down our fat so we could see each 791 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: other every day. With that bit of context, let's go 792 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: back to Rose. Rose was kind of a brat, but, 793 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: learning from friends with younger siblings, children can be brats. 794 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 1: She was rude and made discriminatory comments a few times, 795 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: which I had to teach her were wrong, and she 796 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: was selfish. 797 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 4: Hey, just wanted to inform you that it's never too 798 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 4: late to be a brat. 799 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: You should be a brat at any age. That's true. 800 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: Me and Rose were in the same boat, though we 801 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: both had one sibling and older brother so old that 802 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: by the time we hit the age where we could 803 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: finally start having fun, they were both off to college. 804 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: I knew since I didn't have an older sister role model, 805 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 1: it was my job to be her big sister role model. 806 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 4: Oh maybe like together I got you. Yeah, I was 807 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 4: about to say, like, I feel like the years of 808 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 4: like zero to seven are probably like the most fun 809 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 4: years of your life. Because it was a comment about 810 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 4: like once we were old enough to start having fun. 811 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you have a lot of fun seven. 812 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 2: I misconstrued that. 813 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: I knew this in my heart, so I was that 814 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: also parents and her parents told me to be a 815 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: good role model for her and always look out for her. 816 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: This led me down a path of always prioritizing her 817 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: and doing what she wanted me to do. I didn't 818 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: like it, but I didn't want to hurt her feelings 819 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: since she's younger than me. Fast forward to twenty twenty one. 820 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 1: I moved out of my home to a bigger house 821 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,240 Speaker 1: that kind of suck. I knew our friendship would be different, 822 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: but if I kept putting time and effort into our relationship, 823 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 1: our friendship would never end right wrong. I moved about 824 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: a five minute golf cart drive away from her, a 825 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: thirty minute walk uphill, one minute drive by car. We 826 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: live in a community where most people have golf carts. 827 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: She has a golf cart that she can drive. We 828 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: have options for how to get to my house. It's 829 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 1: a thirty minute walk and a one minute drive. It's 830 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: like a crazy hill that must be a crazy hill. Sorry, 831 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: I just remember, I just like registered that. 832 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 4: Or you are not good with hills? Were our two options? 833 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 4: Hills are your natural nemesis. 834 00:38:55,080 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: Or that is the hill that is Yeah, that's Sissyphis's hill. Cissficient, 835 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: siss sissisficient hill. That hill's got Sissyphis. Yeah, get it 836 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: checked out. She could either walk or drive. Is her 837 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,439 Speaker 1: walk shorter? Well, it's downhill? Is it like a five 838 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,479 Speaker 1: second walk downhill? She flew. 839 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 3: She is the rock. 840 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: She just brings a little like sled. 841 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,959 Speaker 2: She does backhand springs down the whole hill. 842 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: Her dad is over at my house almost every weekend. 843 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 1: She's welcomed whenever she wants. Whitney Anderson says, bet it's 844 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: a thirty second fall. I was fourteen years old, trying 845 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: to make our friendship last. Since I've known this girl 846 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 1: since before she was born. Well, you've only known her 847 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: since she was born, because you can't know someone before 848 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: they were born. I knew them when they were still 849 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: a star child. Matter of fact, there are photos and 850 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: videos of me holding her as a toddler. I'm one 851 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: of her oldest friends in life. Yet I had to 852 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: put all the effort into our friendship Eventually I got 853 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: tired of planning things because if I didn't plan things 854 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: with her, it just wouldn't happen. We rarely speak when 855 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: we do see each other. She only speaks to me 856 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 1: if I'm a last option. If her cousins are around, 857 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: she won't talk to me unless I can benefit them 858 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form. 859 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, So what is his reading as is just like, uh, 860 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 4: a relationship that has changed as your cousin grew up, 861 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 4: and like you guys are striking your own sense of 862 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 4: self a little bit more. 863 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's say I feel like, yeah. 864 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: Like sometimes when you're like a little kid and you're 865 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: falling around your big cousin and you idolize them and 866 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: it's great, And then you get older and you're like, 867 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: I want to hang around my you know, people my 868 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 1: own age. And then maybe you a couple of years 869 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: later come back around you're like, I want to hang 870 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: out with my cousin again because we're at the same level. 871 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 4: Now, Say, what's your like an adolescent to the end 872 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,439 Speaker 4: of being a teenager, and then even early adulthood, it's 873 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,760 Speaker 4: like it's easy to just like be focused on yeah, 874 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 4: things that don't matter at all, and he realized, Oh, 875 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 4: I didn't matter. 876 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 2: I just like my cousin. I want to hang out 877 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:49,720 Speaker 2: with my cousin. 878 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: I finally realized I was always a last resort. When 879 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: I told them how I felt, I just got a 880 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: simple okay or sorry you felt that way. I realized 881 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: I deserve better, and if my own friends don't care 882 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: to see me, well I don't need them anyways. Are 883 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: they the same age? Sure, the op's three years older. 884 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 1: We went no contact, and the last time I saw 885 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: Rose she was quite rude toward me. She repeatedly hit 886 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: me in the face with her sweater and even clipped 887 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 1: me with the zipper, which really hurt. I had to 888 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: sit next to her in a car because my mom 889 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: and I were running late for the airport and my 890 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: dad took the only working car that day. His car 891 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: was at our repair shop, so we borrowed my mom's car. 892 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: Fast forward to today. Sometime in August, we received an 893 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: invite for roses Keithsinnetta. I don't really want to go. 894 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: When we were younger, me and Rose planned her Kitsignetta together, 895 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: including the dress. She promised me that she would take 896 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: me dress shopping with her and the family to pick 897 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: out the dress due to how our friendship turned out. 898 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: Of course, I didn't go dress shopping. I didn't even 899 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: know she had picked out a dress already. She promised 900 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 1: me for years when we were younger, that we would 901 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: do a dance together and then I would do her 902 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,240 Speaker 1: traditional dance with her cousins, which if you can't tell, 903 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: I won't be doing on her invites. I found out 904 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: she took photos with our shared friend Millie. Personally, I 905 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: just don't want to go to our Kinsinetta. I got 906 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: a courtesy invite because my parents are invited. I'm not 907 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 1: really wanted there. I'll be left on my own with 908 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: my parents, who will end up doing their own thing. 909 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: I'll have no friends at the event, and honestly, Rose 910 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: wouldn't care if I showed up or didn't show up. 911 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: I would rather spend time with my friends who would 912 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,720 Speaker 1: actually care about my presence. So there is a little 913 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: bit left to the story. But do you have any 914 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: final thoughts for our Okay, listener. 915 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 4: I kind of agree that Rose wouldn't care, but it's 916 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 4: really just up to you. 917 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: Is your call. I guess you want to go or not, 918 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: but your cousin I don't. 919 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 2: Are they cousins. Weren't they. 920 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 1: I thought they were their cousins. 921 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 3: Okay, cool, I don't think it specified three years older, 922 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 3: but OPI is older. 923 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 4: Well if the keys and her is happening, that she's 924 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 4: steen I, Op's eighteen. 925 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Op's eighteen. I don't think they're cousins. She was 926 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,879 Speaker 1: my next door neighbor. I think I think they were 927 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: just family friends. Parents are best friends. Yeah, it's like, 928 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: it's that kind of cousin. 929 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 3: They are looking like their cousins. You like they're saying cousin, 930 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:02,479 Speaker 3: but they're not. 931 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: Don't they're Actually. I think, especially at that age, you 932 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 1: get some this kind of attitude and I think you know, 933 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: just know that right now, if you're not close, that's okay. 934 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: Sometimes friendships fade, they change, it's it's you know, they're 935 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 1: they're never going to be solid forever, and sometimes they 936 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: come back around. I said this yesterday, but I think 937 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 1: friendships kind of do like a this. Sometimes they just 938 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: do this, Sometimes they do this. There's a lot of 939 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 1: different ways that friendships occur, and sometimes they do this. Whoa, 940 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: And that's a messy friendship. But we've got a little 941 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: bit left to this story. I don't want to be 942 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: a drama queen, just be sad and alone at the Kingsannetta. Honestly, 943 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: if I disappeared, Rose probably wouldn't care and would say, oh, 944 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 1: that's the sad then move on. Also, knowing Rose, if 945 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: she wanted to be there, she would say it in 946 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 1: person or call me to see if I could make it. 947 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: She has an reached out to me, and personally, I 948 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: don't care. I just want to move on with my life. 949 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: I know my parents will be upset that I won't come, 950 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: but just for my mental health and well being, it 951 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: would be better if I don't go to the King Signetta. 952 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm probably just got to plan something around that timeframe. Anyway, 953 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: I have plenty of time to plan since the King 954 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 1: Signetta is in December twenty twenty five and we're in 955 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,240 Speaker 1: September twenty twenty five. So Reddit, am I the ale 956 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: for not going to the King Sennetta? No, you're not 957 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: the ale. Just guys. You guys aren't close anymore. And 958 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: that's okay. Sad, but it's okay. Yeah, But that's the 959 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: end of that story, folks. And we've got some comments. 960 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 2: Hey, it's Sean here. 961 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 4: We're gonna get back to this episode, but a quick 962 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 4: three minute break with asram Our sponsors. 963 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: These come from the video I dump my boyfriend because 964 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,280 Speaker 1: he wants to marry and this was posted August second, 965 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. The TLDR says Opie's roommate Matt, is 966 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,760 Speaker 1: a serial cheater who begged everyone to help him hide 967 00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: his affair from his girlfriend jen Ope refuse to lie, 968 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: but another roommate deliberately set up Matt to get caught. 969 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: And I believe this comes from story two in that episode. 970 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 1: And now Matt's already planning to dump the girl he 971 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: cheated with. One roommate lied to his own girlfriend about knowing, 972 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,760 Speaker 1: and Opie is stuck living with all this mess until 973 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: the lease ends. The drama keeps spiraling with each update 974 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: as Matt can't stop cheating and everyone keeps lying to 975 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 1: cover for each other. If you're curious to know the 976 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 1: full story, you can go watch the full episode. And 977 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: we've got some comments from that episode. I do remember 978 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: that one. I think I was all same here for 979 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: this was such an a hole in that story. 980 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 3: Comment one by Lemonade playback nineteen eighty five. Dude, it 981 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 3: should be Opie's responsibility to let the gen know because 982 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 3: one the friend is a cheater, and two what if 983 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 3: they Cindy or friend passed on an STI STD red 984 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,280 Speaker 3: flags for all the roommates except Omar. 985 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: Yes, Omar was a Omar excuse, But yeah, I remember, 986 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,800 Speaker 1: I remember Omar was af the shout out Omar. 987 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 2: I don't remember this story. 988 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 3: Comment to by individual girl. I was in a relationship 989 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,399 Speaker 3: and he was cheating. We had a mutual friend and 990 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 3: she knew because she knew the girl, she didn't tell 991 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 3: me or the other girl because she felt it wasn't 992 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 3: her place. We are no longer friends. 993 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: I uh, this was a messy situation. So messy A. 994 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 3: Commenter by it's a me malio. How crazy would it 995 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 3: be that it turns out Cindy hasn't shown up to 996 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,760 Speaker 3: classes and has been trying to reach out to Matt 997 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 3: because she's pregnant. 998 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,720 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness that story. Would he get even crazier 999 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: than I already? Was a surprise? 1000 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 4: Pregnancy would always make something a little crazier, now, wouldn't it? 1001 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 3: And last comment by Isabella Kitchen six' eighty just saying 1002 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 3: Omar didn't create drama, Matt did by putting them in 1003 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,760 Speaker 3: this situation to begin with, and being a cheating a hoole. 1004 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,280 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly everyone's Oh Omar is gonna. 1005 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 2: Get Jama, No free Omar. 1006 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 1: But that's the end of those comments, folks, the end 1007 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,399 Speaker 1: of this episode, So if you love us, make sure 1008 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 1: to subscribe. We love you and see it Alond