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Speaker 1: you're watching MSG, U see right there. Good afternoon. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: welcome to our show radio and TV on the radio

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Speaker 1: the audience. I'm John Murphy. This is Steve Tasker. You

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Speaker 1: Steve wants to take sound another path here though, to

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Speaker 1: called it the Tasker plan for a while. Here the

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Speaker 1: Steve's proposal. They have an eighteen game regular season sometime

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Speaker 1: America's greatest sports Lead Joe Hargan. What an effort. This is.

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Speaker 1: A little change in his practice status. It appears, yes

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Speaker 1: a red flag, like, hey, don't come in and give

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Speaker 1: him any unnecessary contact. We're just trying to get through

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Speaker 1: practice and have him as healthy as possible for Sunday.

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Speaker 1: And Trey White's in the same boat. He's got the

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Speaker 1: red non contact jersey on now. He did shed that

431
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Speaker 1: red non contact jersey and Friday's practice last week. We'll

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Speaker 1: have to see if that's a case again tomorrow. And

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Speaker 1: just to finish up with the injuries, when did Corey

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Speaker 1: Thompson get hurt with his ankle? Did not practice yesterday?

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Speaker 1: When did it? Yeah, I mean he was if he

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Speaker 1: going into last week's game, if you remember, But I

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Speaker 1: don't believe it was an ankle injury. I want to

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Speaker 1: say it was. I want to say it was a groin,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not sure. I'll have to go back and

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Speaker 1: look at last week's injury report. So this ankle must

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Speaker 1: have come out of the game. And then coach said

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Speaker 1: yesterday he just had ankle surgery. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that meant Wednesday or if that meant earlier in

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Speaker 1: the week. But usually they come in Monday. They kind

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Speaker 1: of assess everything, and then they make a decision if

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Speaker 1: they feel something like that, something of that magnitude is required.

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Speaker 1: So I would imagine that it happened Tuesday or Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: So I can't imagine he's part of the equation at

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Speaker 1: all this week after having ankle surgery, even if it's

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Speaker 1: a clean up type procedure, you're still looking at, you know,

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Speaker 1: two to four weeks probably that's that's I'm just going

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Speaker 1: based off history there. That was not from the team.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going based off a history on what ankle

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Speaker 1: scopes and need scopes typically take. As we know, every

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Speaker 1: case is different. One of the things I noticed yesterday

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Speaker 1: about the depth chart was that I think they've got

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Speaker 1: like maybe twenty two guys on the entire defensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball that can are actually available up on

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Speaker 1: the depth chart, which gives them, you know, maybe what

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Speaker 1: twenty eight offensive guys available for Sunday. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're doing the math, yeah, yep, that's right. So

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Speaker 1: you know when you got in Felicia, I know, still

463
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Speaker 1: somewhat of a question mark with the neck, but we'll

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Speaker 1: see how he comes through today after being limited yesterday. Well,

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Speaker 1: the only reason I bring that up is because the

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Speaker 1: rotation gets slim on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're coming into the Patriots game and a

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Speaker 1: lot of teams do go player to light on the

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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. But to me, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it just the depth becomes an issue. They got they

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Speaker 1: got eight defensive linemen that they're going to rotate through

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Speaker 1: like they always do. They got six linebackers at the

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Speaker 1: bottom three linebackers, the back three linebackers, they're special teams guys.

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Speaker 1: And then you've got Kevin Johnson playing behind two different

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Speaker 1: spots on the starting defense as well. So it just

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Speaker 1: strikes me it just seems a little thin on the

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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, particularly when you go, I

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Speaker 1: mean and really only have five linebackers, Steve, when you

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Speaker 1: think about Corey Thompson's part of the equation. But here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. The Patriots go eleven personnel so much with

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Speaker 1: three wides that the Bills are going to be a

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Speaker 1: nickel almost the entire game. At least. I'm anticipating that

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Speaker 1: especial and I think that's even gonna be more so

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Speaker 1: the case with devln On ir now the fullback for

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Speaker 1: the Patriots because they used to run a lot of

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Speaker 1: twenty one personnel with Devlyn in the lineup. He's not

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Speaker 1: a part of that lineup anymore. So I'm seeing a

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Speaker 1: lot of I'm expecting anyway, a lot of one back sets.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they go split backs to really kind of throw

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Speaker 1: a curveball at the Bills on occasion, but I think

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Speaker 1: largely they're gonna be three and four wide because that's

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Speaker 1: what they've been, even with Devlyn when he was healthy.

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Speaker 1: All I know is whatever they're gonna do is gonna

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Speaker 1: be unexpected. Oh yeah, there'll be something in there. Hey, Chris,

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Speaker 1: we're talking to We're gonna talk to our listeners today

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Speaker 1: and callers about the matchup they are most interested in.

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Speaker 1: And one matchup that intrigues me is Jerry Hughes versus

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Speaker 1: Marshall Newhouse, who had a cup of coffee with the

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Speaker 1: Bills last September. And I just think overall the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: defensive line may be able to do some damage against

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Speaker 1: kind of a patched up Newing the offensive line. What

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Speaker 1: do you think? Yeah, I think the Bills have to

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Speaker 1: go into that matchup knowing that there's going to be

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Speaker 1: tight end and running back Chip help for Marshall Newhouse

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Speaker 1: because how about you, guys, but I just don't think

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Speaker 1: a left tackle in this league anymore. He's there by

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Speaker 1: necessity with Isaiah Winn going on ir with the turf

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Speaker 1: toe injury, So you know there, it's a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a patchwork, as you said, because even the center

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Speaker 1: Ted Carris is not their typical starting center. Andrews has

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Speaker 1: had that lung blood clot and as lung, which is

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Speaker 1: you know, life threatening, and that's why he's not in

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Speaker 1: the lineup either. So they're trying to get their feedback

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Speaker 1: under him on the old line. But Brady gets the

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Speaker 1: ball out so quick it can kind of help that.

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Speaker 1: But with a running game that's struggling, I think that's

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Speaker 1: where this offensive line is really having the most trouble

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Speaker 1: in terms of getting in sync and being productive on

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Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. It's not necessarily the

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Speaker 1: pass protection as much as it is the run blocking,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's where Jerry can win handily. But

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Speaker 1: knowing that they're going to probably try to compensate for that,

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Speaker 1: I think the Bills have to have a countermove there,

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Speaker 1: whether they overload that side and bring blitz pressure or

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Speaker 1: whether they put a heavier player out there to kind

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Speaker 1: of take care of, you know, New Houses a tackle,

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Speaker 1: maybe you line up wider and a wide nine kind

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Speaker 1: of look. I think they've got to come with some

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Speaker 1: countermeasures knowing that the Patriots are going to be wary

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Speaker 1: of leaving New House one on one with Jerry. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it seems to me though. There's no question the Patriots

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Speaker 1: really have an enormous advantage. They've played five quarters of

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Speaker 1: football so far where it really mattered and the game

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Speaker 1: was in doubt. They had three halves of football games

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Speaker 1: that didn't count and really a couple of second quarters

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Speaker 1: that really didn't count either. So you don't have much

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Speaker 1: to go on if you're the Buffalo Bills about what

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Speaker 1: the Patriots really think about their own players, let alone

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Speaker 1: about what they think about the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: interesting though, because coach McDermott was asked that question. You know,

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Speaker 1: you don't really have any good film on them this

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Speaker 1: year because two of their games were over at halftime,

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Speaker 1: you know, does that complicate things? And coach McDermott just said,

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Speaker 1: they are what they are even doing it for so long,

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Speaker 1: we know what they do. They just happen to execute

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Speaker 1: better than most teams are able to defend it, so

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Speaker 1: they know what's coming. I think in large to a

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Speaker 1: large degree, they'll always have the ace up their sleeve

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Speaker 1: for that specific game plan for that given week, as

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Speaker 1: they typically do, and it's just a matter of adjusting

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Speaker 1: on the fly, and it's punch CounterPunch with this team,

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Speaker 1: and more often you know, they've got more effective combinations

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Speaker 1: than their opponents. So that's the challenge. I think the

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Speaker 1: Bills defense should be given some measure of credit. They've

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Speaker 1: kind of held their team in games better than a

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Speaker 1: lot of other opponents have over the last few years

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Speaker 1: under coach McDermott. The key now is raising the level

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Speaker 1: of offensive production to that of Buffalo's defense, and if

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Speaker 1: they can do that, they're probably in this game in

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Speaker 1: the third or fourth quarter, and this game is not

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Speaker 1: over at halftime. Right Hey, Chris, one more thing for you.

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Speaker 1: Josh Gordon is not their most productive receiver yet, but

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Speaker 1: I think they're most dangerous. What do the Bills do

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Speaker 1: with him? Is that a Trey White assignment? Do you

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Speaker 1: think it could be a follow type of deal? But

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Speaker 1: last week we saw John Ross comes into that game,

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Speaker 1: the league in receiving yards, and they didn't have Trey

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Speaker 1: White follow him. I think it's an example of the

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Speaker 1: it's a strong indication of the faith they have in

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Speaker 1: Levi Wallace to hold things down on his end. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna change. I mean, Ross is a

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Speaker 1: more dynamic athlete in my opinion than Josh Gordon is,

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Speaker 1: so I don't I don't anticipate it. I suppose it's possible,

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Speaker 1: but I don't anticipate it. Yeah, I think I think

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Speaker 1: Rocks is a better runner, but I think Josh Gordon

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Speaker 1: is a more skilled all round receiver. Isn't he well

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Speaker 1: vertically he is, Yes, But Levi is a long corner.

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Speaker 1: He's six feet tall and he's got long arms. So

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Speaker 1: if they're worried about jump balls, I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna worry about shying away from putting Levi on it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right? Yeah. I think Also one of the things

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Speaker 1: that comes down to is it's not it's not just

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Speaker 1: the matchup. They're not gonna do one thing against one

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Speaker 1: guy all day. They gotta have a combination that they'll

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Speaker 1: double Josh Gordon with, you know, with Levi Wallace and

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Speaker 1: the safety they'll do it with a linebacker. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: change things up because if they start doing the same

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Speaker 1: thing against the same guy all day, they become much

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Speaker 1: much too predictable for a team like the Patriots, you know,

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Speaker 1: and then it'll come back to bite him. And the

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Speaker 1: bread and butter is Edelman, as we know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: in two games last year, fifteen catches, one hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy four yards and a touchdown. He can't be averaging

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Speaker 1: eight catches a game against the Bills. And he's done

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Speaker 1: that in his career. I mean, he's averaged about eight

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Speaker 1: catches a game, and he's got eight career games against

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Speaker 1: the Bills since twenty fourteen, he's got fifty six catches,

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Speaker 1: five hundred and fifty nine yards and six touchdowns. He

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Speaker 1: can't have that kind of production against the Bills because

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Speaker 1: that means the Patriots offense is staying on the field,

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Speaker 1: they're moving the sticks, and they're getting into the scoring

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Speaker 1: territory and that's not a good recipe. So if Terren

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Speaker 1: Johnson can't go this week, it's gonna be enormous pressure

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Speaker 1: on the likens to Ran Neal and Kevin Johnson chiefly

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Speaker 1: and to a lesser extent Dean Marlowe to keep him

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Speaker 1: under wraps just quickly. Last thing I have four you, Chris,

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Speaker 1: Bill's got to find a way to score some points here, obviously,

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Speaker 1: and I think they need some easy points. Whether it's

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Speaker 1: a return of some Kimes special teams or defense or

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Speaker 1: or a deep shot downfield. They need some easy points

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Speaker 1: this week, I believe. What do you think? Right? And

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Speaker 1: I think I think that's got to be a byproduct

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Speaker 1: of being aggressive. Yeah, you can't sick back against this

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Speaker 1: Patriots team. Looking what the Eagles did in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: They were aggressive, they took chances, Philly special, whatever you

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Speaker 1: want to call it. They did the opposite of what

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons did. The Atlanta Falcons when conservative when

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Speaker 1: they had a twenty five point lead and blew the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Eagles were aggressive and were rewarded for it. Now,

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Speaker 1: you still have to execute. But the Bills have to

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Speaker 1: be aggressive in this game if they want to take

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Speaker 1: this game from New England. That's that's the bottom line.

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Speaker 1: And then they have to execute when they are aggressive.

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Speaker 1: And I'll leave you with one thing. I know you'd

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Speaker 1: call me Debbie Down or sometimes erh Murph don't. I'll

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Speaker 1: leave you with an uplifting No, the last team to

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Speaker 1: score an offensive touchdown against the Patriots was the Bills

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Speaker 1: in Week sixteen last year. Wow, Brownie, that that's great.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, what about Kansas City? Well, regularly, oh,

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Speaker 1: regular season? Postseason? All right, I got to Debbie Downer.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Chris, Thanks Brownie, Chris Brown Bills Inside or Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills dot Com. I'm throwing out that last at Kansas

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Speaker 1: City scored points. But I do agree with Chris one

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Speaker 1: about being aggressive in this game. They have to be aggressive.

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Speaker 1: They have to force the issue, and not because they're

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Speaker 1: serious hundreddogs and oh woe is me, we got to

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Speaker 1: make something happen. No, it's because nobody's scoring points against

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Speaker 1: these guys. The Bills need some easy points. Whether it's

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Speaker 1: a scoop and score fumble recovery that can be done,

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Speaker 1: a pick six stradevious I'm talking to you, or whether

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Speaker 1: it's a deep shot downfield, John Brown, Robert Foster, I'm

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Speaker 1: talking to you. That would go a long way early,

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Speaker 1: especially to get things going in this game. And I'm

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Speaker 1: looking for attempts at that. I really am. I think

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Speaker 1: the Bills are ready to be aggressive and force the issue.

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Speaker 1: I think from a fans perspective, you need momentum plays

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Speaker 1: early to keep you in it, to give you to

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Speaker 1: give you a hope. You don't want to sit there

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Speaker 1: and just like, oh God, because fans have a Tennessee

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Speaker 1: to sit there and wring their hands. Players don't really

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Speaker 1: do that. They go out and they compete one play

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Speaker 1: at a time, and they're gonna They're gonna hang in

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Speaker 1: there with this. It's a long game, and you know

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Speaker 1: that the Patriots are gonna make some plays against you.

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Speaker 1: But you've got to be ready. And that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: We've said it a hundred times. This game's these close

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Speaker 1: games which we all anticipate this kind of gonna be

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Speaker 1: or at least for a while anyway, Right, it comes

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Speaker 1: down to one or two plays a game that make

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Speaker 1: the difference. You've got to be ready at all times

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Speaker 1: to make that play for your team when it arises.

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Speaker 1: You don't when the ball pops loose, you've got to

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Speaker 1: be the guys that grab it. When the balls gets

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Speaker 1: tipped in the air, you guys have to be the

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Speaker 1: ones to go down and chase it down and catch

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Speaker 1: the deflected pass. All that kind of stuff. It happened

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Speaker 1: last weekend. You say, you know, when you deflect the pass,

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Speaker 1: it's usually the defense that grabs it. Last week the

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Speaker 1: Bengals had a tipped pass with the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: They got Andy Dalton another tip pass. It turned into

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Speaker 1: a completion for them in a first down. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: always have to go your way as a defense. So

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Speaker 1: I think I'm with you. You've got Momentum's big in

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Speaker 1: this game, no question about it. But these players, this team,

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Speaker 1: particularly here in Buffalo, you can bet is going to

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Speaker 1: be in this all through four quarters, no matter what

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Speaker 1: the scoreboard says. This is a team that is not

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Speaker 1: gonna let his foot off the gas. Brian day Bole knows,

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Speaker 1: all these coaches know. You've got to keep your foot

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Speaker 1: on the gas. In fact, you got to shift gears

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Speaker 1: in the third fourth quarter this game, even if you're

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Speaker 1: up by fifteen points, twenty points. You know who knows

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00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: that's going to Nobody anticipates that happening, But that's the

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Speaker 1: way it is. You get a lead, you need a

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Speaker 1: bigger one, and that's the mind frame you have to

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Speaker 1: go into the Patriots with got a good game coming

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Speaker 1: up here Sunday A huge game coming up here Sunday.

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Speaker 1: We want to know what you think. What matchup are

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Speaker 1: you most looking forward to in this game? And not

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Speaker 1: necessarily the matchup that benefits the Bills. What are you

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Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing maybe what the Bills can do

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Speaker 1: against what could be a favorable matchup for New England?

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Speaker 1: Let us know. Phone line's open eight oh three oh

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Speaker 1: five fifty or outside Buffalo toll free call at one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Send it

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Speaker 1: a tweet. We can read it on the tweet sheet.

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Speaker 1: Vote in the Twitter poll. Seven uf so far, what

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Speaker 1: matchup are you most looking forward to this Sunday against England.

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Speaker 1: We're just getting started here. Happy to have you with us.

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Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steave Tasker, one, Bills Live presented by Kalida

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Speaker 1: Nothing comes close five, John Murphy, Steve Tasker and Our one,

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Speaker 1: Our one, Buffalo Studio, Seneca Studio. It's a Thursday. It's

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Speaker 1: a Thursday. Welcome to the show. Good show, good start.

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Speaker 1: We're often running. We got a good Twitter poll. We

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Speaker 1: want to talk more about that simple question. Not really,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a complicated question. You gotta think through it.

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Speaker 1: What's your favorite matchup about this game? And again, I'm

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Speaker 1: you don't have to have the matchup that benefits the Bills.

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Speaker 1: What matchup are you most looking forward to? Though? Jerry

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00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: Hughes against Marshall Newhouse, the new look Bills wide receivers

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Speaker 1: against the new England secondary Tredabus White against Josh Gordon

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Speaker 1: Builds run game against the Patriots defense. You pick one.

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Speaker 1: We got a Twitter poll on this topic, but you

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Speaker 1: can pick a subject as well. Give us a call.

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Speaker 1: Eight three fifty to three one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. Let's start with a call. We'll

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Speaker 1: start with Jim and Columbus. Hello, Jim, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: It was going on this Drew just Drew, how y'all

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Speaker 1: doing today? Okay, I've just had a couple of key pointers,

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Speaker 1: and then I wanted to ask us get Steve's um

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Speaker 1: opinion on a couple of questions. The first thing I

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Speaker 1: wanted to say is, uh, I think that, you know,

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Speaker 1: since they're talking about the Patriots defense and all, I

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Speaker 1: think our defense is actually better, you know, and I

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Speaker 1: feel like we should we should play like a man

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Speaker 1: zone type coverage. So we're like we manned up. Uh,

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Speaker 1: probably the running back or we've met, because I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at their plays, the Patriots plays in order doing it.

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Speaker 1: You know, Brady's gonna get the ball out quick, quick,

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Speaker 1: quick passes. So the wide receivers on the outside, they're

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Speaker 1: not nothing but going probably about seven yards and then

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Speaker 1: turning around and inspecting the ball. I think Trey and

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Speaker 1: LEVI have a good chance to jumping some of them

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Speaker 1: roused and possibly you know, jump starting the defense of

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Speaker 1: getting a good spark fors you know, Drew. And I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna see it on this too. But um, you make

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Speaker 1: a very good point. I just said the exact same

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Speaker 1: thing to our Kevin James Kevin Kevin Cargis and James Robo,

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Speaker 1: who are our two employees in the back. They said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they've got a really good defense. To England, you know

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Speaker 1: else has a good defense. The Buffalo Bills have a

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Speaker 1: really good defense. And I think you're onto something here.

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Speaker 1: I think the Patriots gotta be scratchered a head to

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Speaker 1: say how we're gonna move the ball on that team.

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Speaker 1: Don't you think, Steve, we're gonna move the ball. This

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Speaker 1: is gonna be a great game in all facets of it.

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Speaker 1: I think both offenses, Josh and the new offense that

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Speaker 1: the Bills have fielded this year as opposed to last year,

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Speaker 1: is so much more fun to watch for Bills fans.

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Speaker 1: And of course Tom Brady, Julian Edelman, Josh, Gordon Burkehead.

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00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: They've got a really nice off group of guys over

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Speaker 1: there on that side of the ball. The Bills have

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Speaker 1: a great defense. The Patriots have a phenomenally gifted defense

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Speaker 1: that's playing extremely well as too. I mean, it's really

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Speaker 1: should be a fantastic NFL football game here in Orchard

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00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: Park on Sunday. There's a lot of layers to it.

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Speaker 1: It's Bill Belichick against this culture that Sean McDermott is building. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people around the league who've given

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Speaker 1: the Bills a lot of kudos for the way they've

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Speaker 1: built this this this particular, you know, addition of the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, how they got to this point, what they're doing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's two really good defenses in this crew. And I

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Speaker 1: don't think that the Patriots don't know it. I mean, Drew,

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Speaker 1: where were your questions received? This was? This was another

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Speaker 1: thing I just wanted to because I was saying that

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Speaker 1: I basically think that this game could define our season,

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Speaker 1: because this game could possibly because just think if we

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Speaker 1: win this game were or Fourer note and we're at

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Speaker 1: number one in the AFCs, that means that that we

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Speaker 1: would probably be hopefully the cheams little to the Lions

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Speaker 1: this weekend, we would only undefeated team. I know, Drew,

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Speaker 1: but you know what, you still have seventy five percent

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Speaker 1: of your regular season left after Sunday. So that's why

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00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: I'm reluctant to say it that finds the season. You

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Speaker 1: have a question? You said for Steve something because I

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Speaker 1: feel like it could John, because this game could possibly

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Speaker 1: this gang of Coutapolis and possibly Beto only game that

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Speaker 1: could be the difference of us having a home playoff

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Speaker 1: game or not. Yeah, or Cincinnati last week. That's a

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00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: long way down the road. But yeah, you're right that

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00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: no question. When you're talking about the team, Steve, the

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00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: games add up, you know, So we could go all

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Speaker 1: the way down the season and be one game short

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Speaker 1: of making the playoffs or making a whole player you know, Drew,

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Speaker 1: And You're right. You could have said the exact same

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Speaker 1: thing about Cincinnati last week, they do add up and

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00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: they all each count as one that each count is

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Speaker 1: one win, and they do matter. And that's one. Man.

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Speaker 1: The only difference from this one is you're playing a

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Speaker 1: team that's perceives being really good. They're three and ozer.

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Speaker 1: I mean that adds a little something to your cachet,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't really do anything for you mathematically. But

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Speaker 1: what else you got, Drew, He's gone, Let's go to

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Speaker 1: Milton in Buffalo. I gave him three. I know he

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Speaker 1: can building in Buffalo. You're on the air. Yeah, good,

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Speaker 1: all right, Just two things, man. I'm gonna just need

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Speaker 1: my team, my favorite team, to go into the game

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Speaker 1: play confidence, you know what I'm saying, and not like

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Speaker 1: like the pages are the Big Brothers or something, because

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00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: last year is seamed like that, you know what I mean?

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00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: They becoming confident we're gonna win a game. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they played a little brother last year or

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Speaker 1: I think that's more of a media percent man some fans.

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00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: But there pretty prictiful guy, Steve. I don't mean. Look,

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Speaker 1: they say things during the week which might lead you

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Speaker 1: to believe that they're playing Little Brothers of the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: But when they talk among themselves. Aren't they saying I

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Speaker 1: can handle that guy. I can handle Josh Gordon, I

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00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: can deal with rex Burghead, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I think this team will go in with some confidence.

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Speaker 1: They've they've played him last year. They lost by two touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: I think it was like twenty five to twelve or

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Speaker 1: something like that. They got a late defensive touchdown or

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Speaker 1: through pick six the Bills did. The Patriots got a

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Speaker 1: defensive touch down, and then the Bills threw a pick

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Speaker 1: six when they're trying to come back and win it.

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Speaker 1: That was a twelve six ball game going into maybe

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Speaker 1: they'd beat him twenty five to six, that it was

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Speaker 1: a twelve six ball game going into the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: This is a Bills team that is going to stand

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Speaker 1: up toe to toe with these guys and go at it.

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Speaker 1: And the Patriots know it too. And listen, nobody here

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Speaker 1: is saying the Patriots are walking in here not confident.

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Speaker 1: These are two really good football teams who have a

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Speaker 1: lot of high expectations. It's gonna be a good game.

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Speaker 1: But I think when you get inside the locker room

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Speaker 1: and inside the coaches and inside the buildings, are these

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Speaker 1: NFL franchises I know the ones I was always on.

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Speaker 1: There's supreme confidence. Even if you're struggling on the scoreboard

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Speaker 1: or if you're struggling to win loss column, you've got

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Speaker 1: some confidence that you're gonna play and you're gonna play

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Speaker 1: well that week. That's almost universal. Patriots are playing the

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Speaker 1: three and eighteen two. You know what I mean? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know what the history is too. I know how

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Speaker 1: bad it's been, But this is this year, this is

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Speaker 1: this game. All right, A breakcare, We're coming back. Which

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Speaker 1: matchup are you most looking forward to? On Sunday? Let

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Speaker 1: five fifty or toll free one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty sended a tweet. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet when we return. John Murphy, Steve Tasker,

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio, a couple of days away

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Speaker 1: from the Bills New England matchup. On Our question on

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Speaker 1: Twitter today asks the question what matchup are you most

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Speaker 1: Corrigan Moving Systems. The official movers of the Buffalo Bill.

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Speaker 1: Steve take us through the tweet from Daniel says other

851
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to most most to seeing Josh Allen

852
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: versus the Patriot defense. I want to see how far

853
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: he's come and see if we can move the ball

854
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: down the field with long drives. I also want to

855
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: see how well he makes reads against a constantly changing defense.

856
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: And ye know it's gonna be a big point. That's good.

857
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 1: There's a really good also, we've got one from James.

858
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: He goes, I think Gore is going to have a

859
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: great game. Everyone wants to talk about what Josh is

860
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: going to do while overlooking Gore. Having a veteran around

861
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,959
Speaker 1: Alan in the backfield is a major asset. He doesn't

862
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: put the ball on the ground, and he's hope and

863
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: I hope he's wearing those eighties cleats again, go pills. Okay.

864
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: From Matt's on the tweet sheet, he picks a of

865
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: our choices, which is Jerry Hughes against Marshall Newhouse A.

866
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: He says, because it seems most likely to be in

867
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: our favor and helps secure a wind. Shouldn't even have

868
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: to get fancy with stunts. If they double team Jerry.

869
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: That leaves ed star Trent one on one. The Patriots

870
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: questionable offensive line could be bad news for Brady. If

871
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: our d line has juiced up like they should be,

872
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: somebody's got to make them pay for that offensive line issue, right,

873
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: somebody's got to see why not? Why not the Bills? Yeah,

874
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: why not? That would be the ideal. But we also

875
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: know this almost you never see Tom Brady on the ground. Well,

876
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: the ball will come out. But I'm just talking about

877
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: hurrying him up or roughing him up. I think that.

878
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: I think the yeah, you gotta get him off game.

879
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: You want to bother him, You want to make it

880
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: so he throws the ball in the wrong spot, or

881
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: back the thing into the air and start maybe grab

882
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: a couple of turnovers like that, you know, get the

883
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: ball in the air, somebody comes down in the wrong

884
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: in our guy's hands. All of that's possible. The plan

885
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: is to get him on the ground, and the plan

886
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,959
Speaker 1: is to have him be bothered by a rush behind

887
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: an offensive line that he doesn't trust. And with that

888
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: falls also and you know it's one layer further Murph,

889
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: Secondary's got to cover those guys up quick. They can't

890
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: leave guys hanging out there. You know, if they're dropping

891
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: into his zone, they got to get in front of

892
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: those guys. If Brady cannot have us an alley to

893
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: throw the football in, if he's getting the ball out

894
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: of there that fast, you gotta be ready for it.

895
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: And you know, there's just so many layers to this.

896
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: The secondary of the Bills has got to be on

897
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: its game so that the front can have a chance

898
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: to get there behind it and through that offensive line.

899
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 1: Let's call here from Pedro in Buffalo. Hello, Pedro, go ahead,

900
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Hey, how are you guys doing sending?

901
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: Hey listen, I want to tell you guys, the key

902
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: to this game, to winning this game, it's gonna be

903
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 1: pressure up the middle. Pressure up the middle on Brady.

904
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: This is where our number one picked at Oliver make

905
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: his bone. Yeah. I think you're onto something there, Pedro.

906
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,479
Speaker 1: I was thinking that to myself today. Pressure up the member,

907
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 1: you get pressure up the middle. Brady don't like pressure

908
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: up the middle. You know all this passes shooesely inside

909
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: the numbers. Pressure up the middle, we would win this game.

910
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: I think you're onto something. I do think at Oliver,

911
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: who you know they have three games worth of video

912
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: to look at Steve. They don't. I've always thought since

913
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: he got there that the Bill has had big plans

914
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 1: and maybe some exotic plans for shaking at Oliver loose.

915
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: And what better way to you know, he's got three

916
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: games under his belt, what better way to cut him

917
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: loose in this game against this team? Yeah, that may

918
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: be it, but yeah the Patriots. No, Tom doesn't like

919
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: pressure up the middle too. Yeah. Yeah, pressure up the middle,

920
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: and it does bother him, no question out it. He's

921
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: not as accurate when he has to move around back there.

922
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: He's not nimble, He's you know, he's alert, he's got

923
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: great pocket presents. He slides and buys as much time

924
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: as the pocket will afford him. But he's not like

925
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen or Cam Newton or Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers.

926
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: He's not going to run around back there looking down

927
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: the field waiting for a guy to come open. The

928
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: ball's gonna come out. So unless you can get pressure

929
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: up the middle like right now, you're gonna be relegated

930
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: to batting the thing up and try and get in

931
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: a hand in his face trying to knock it down.

932
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: Because the Patriots are not gonna let tom Brady spend

933
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: the entire afternoon on his back. They just won't. They're

934
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: gonna do something that won't allow you to get to him,

935
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: whatever that may be, because they know Tom Brady better

936
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: than anybody else does, and they know how to protect him.

937
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: They've been doing it for eighteen years. So you're right.

938
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: If you can get pressure up the middle, that's great.

939
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 1: He doesn't like it and it bothers him, but you've

940
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: got to do it in a big, big hurry because

941
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: the ball won't be there when you get there, if

942
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: you're not there, if you're not in a hurry, if

943
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: you don't get there in a hurry. So that's my take. Everybody.

944
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: We've known this about tom Brady for a long time.

945
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: It's not easy to do get pressure up the middle.

946
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: Certainly ed has you would think what it takes, particularly

947
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: against this offensive line. Maybe, but you gotta get you

948
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: gotta do it, you gotta do it all, and you

949
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: gotta do it a lot because if you start getting

950
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: pressure of the middle, they'll change their scheme and stop it.

951
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: And then what are you gonna do. On the topic

952
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: of it, Oliver in his element I think it's notable

953
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: that his personal tutor, Kyle Williams has been here this week. Right.

954
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: Kyle was here yesterday, I believe, and he's here today.

955
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: He's he is in Oliver's personal code, holding out all

956
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: the stuff. Man, he's in Oliver's personal call hands on

957
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: here this week. I think that's cool. I think that's good. Yeah,

958
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: that is good. I've gotta take a break when we

959
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: come back, and we'll talk more about this. The matchups

960
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: you like that you're most intrigued by. In the Bills

961
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: in New England matchup. You're gonna talk to some NFL

962
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: history with her friend. Joe Harrigan is a recently retired

963
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 1: executive director of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. As

964
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: this book NFL Century, The one hundred year Rise of

965
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: America's Greatest Sports League. We'll talk with Joe Horgan about

966
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: that when we come back. We can talk to him

967
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: about Bills and Patriots as well. Come on back. John

968
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: Murphy was Steve Tasker One Does Live presented by Klatta Health,

969
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: coming to you from the Seneca Studio. This is Buffalo

970
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: Bills Radio Hills Radio Network Sports. The update from One

971
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive The Buffalo Bills on the practice field inside

972
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: the ed Pro Sports Training Center today. They might get

973
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: running back Devin Singletary back to practice today. He had

974
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: his helmet on in the early workouts and looked like

975
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: he might have been ready to go. Maybe wind up

976
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: as a limited participant today. Singletary has been out about

977
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,479
Speaker 1: a week and a half with that hamstring injury. Non

978
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: contact Jerseys on guard John Feliciano, wide receiver Jay Jones,

979
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: and cornerback Tdavius White at the Page Patriots practice today.

980
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: Marshall Newhouse offensive lineman. Marshall Newhouse there left tackle last

981
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: week there started left tackle. He was limited yesterday due

982
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: to illness. He was not spotted on the field at

983
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: practice today for New England. Keep an eye on that.

984
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: Patriots quarterback Tom Brady has been limited and three of

985
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: his last four practices. He says age might be a reason.

986
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: He says, I'm no spring chicken. But there's little dight

987
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: to doubt that Brady will play Sunday at the Bills,

988
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: the matchup with three and OH teams. Brady, forty two

989
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: years old, as limited practice load maybe part of the

990
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: roster management plan that Patriots coach Bill Belichick referenced in

991
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: regard to the assigning the free agent Cody Kessler. Yesterday

992
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: Bills Patriots Sunday one o'clock here at newer Field Radio,

993
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: broadcast on our flagship WGR Sports Radio five fifty. Myself,

994
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: Eric Wood and Sal Capacho on the sot dins for

995
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: that game. Thursday Night Football Tonight, Pretty good one the

996
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: one and two Philadelphia Eagles at the three and oh

997
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. The Packers have won four of the

998
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: last five matchups against Philadelphia, and the Packers opt to

999
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: their first three and oh start since two fifteen. They're

1000
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: playing defense, not putting up a whole lot of points.

1001
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: Kickoff is eight twenty tonight in Green Bay. The report

1002
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles says Melvin Gordon plans to report today,

1003
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: ending his sixty four day holdout. According to ESPN, He's

1004
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: now set to rejoin his teammates. ESPN says Gordon is

1005
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: insistent that this will be his final year with the

1006
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers, and the Giants are not going to

1007
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: put Sequon Barkley on injured reserve. He got a second

1008
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: opinion on his ankle. It's gonna be about four to

1009
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: eight weeks with that high ankle. Spring Buffalo Sabers played

1010
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: last night. Their final preseason game is Saturday when they

1011
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 1: play at Pittsburgh, and the season opens a week from

1012
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: tonight in Pittsburgh irregular season. That's the update from One

1013
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive, John Murphy and Steve Tasker in our One

1014
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: Buffalo Studio Ready to go for our number two. We're

1015
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: going to get back to the Bills and back to

1016
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: the matchups in the Bills game. But we want to

1017
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: talk with maybe the foremost historian in the NFL in

1018
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: recent years. He is the recently retired executive director of

1019
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Forty two years at

1020
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and now he has

1021
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: written a book, One NFL Century, the One Do You Rise?

1022
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: Of America's Greatest sports League. Joe hargan Buffalo native, on

1023
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: the line with us right now. Joe, you talked about

1024
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: the book a couple of months ago with us, and

1025
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: here it is. We got it yesterday. I confess I

1026
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: haven't read it, but I page through it and there's

1027
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff in this book. It's gonna

1028
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: this book's gonna take some time, and I know it's

1029
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: gonna be worth it for me. Well, call me back

1030
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: when you've read it, then I want to ask you.

1031
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: I part of what you said in your forward or

1032
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: your book was that you didn't want it to look

1033
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: like an encyclopedia, and it's really not. It's got some

1034
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: some pretty rich stories of all the things that have

1035
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: happened over the first hundred years of this league. And

1036
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: why was it? I mean, tell us about your thought

1037
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: process about putting together the book in this format. Yeah.

1038
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: The first thing I learned, Steve is kind of like,

1039
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: what the heck was I thinking? One hundred years can't

1040
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: be covered from one book? And you know, and that's

1041
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: absolutely true, and I'm looking forward to books number two

1042
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: and three. The idea was that, you know, there are

1043
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: a lot of stories in the history of the NFL

1044
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: that that needs to be told because they're so important

1045
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: to the development of the league. And then there are

1046
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: stories that are interesting but maybe not as well covered

1047
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: as they should have been. And then there are those

1048
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Speaker 1: stories that have been covered very thoroughly and didn't need

1049
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: meter to go through them again. So what I did is,

1050
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: and I say this, I felt like I understand better

1051
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: now how a coach feels when he has to make

1052
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: those final cuts. But I kind of made a long

1053
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Speaker 1: list of stories that I wanted to look at and

1054
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: then had to start weeding them down as to which

1055
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Speaker 1: ones kind of fall in each of those criteria, ones

1056
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Speaker 1: that have to be told, ones that need some clarification,

1057
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Speaker 1: ones that are maybe interesting in a different way that

1058
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Speaker 1: you shed light onto the development of some portion of

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Speaker 1: the league or the game, how it's played, and then

1060
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: those that are just playing incorrect and wanted to correct

1061
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: some some historical errors. So it got to a point

1062
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: where I left a lot of first rounders out of

1063
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: the out of the book, so you know it. I

1064
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: hope it has a little bit of something for everyone,

1065
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: and I think everyone will find something they probably didn't

1066
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: know or validate things they fought. Joe Horgan's book his

1067
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: NFL Century, The one hundred year Rise of America's Greatest

1068
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: Sports League, and you take us right back to the

1069
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: birth of the NFL and the Hutmobile Dealership in Canton, Ohio.

1070
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: Joe and Steve has done a little work with the

1071
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: folks in Rochester with the Rochester Jeffersons. Can you talk

1072
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: about that team and what they meant early on in

1073
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: the development of the NFL. Yeah, the Rochester Jeffersons and

1074
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: the Buffalo and Buffalo All Americans were two teams that

1075
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: were in the played in the first year of the

1076
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: National Football League. But the Jeffersons were at that original

1077
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 1: foundational meeting, represented by Leo Lyons from Rochester, and Leo

1078
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: I think, you know, in many ways kind of gets

1079
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: lost in the shuffle in terms of history because he

1080
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: was a really important part of not only that original meeting,

1081
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: but the original league was founded by kind of what

1082
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: I would call the small city, small own type of

1083
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: teams that were playing at that day, and we're really

1084
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: building the game of professional football, bringing it to an

1085
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: audience that lacked perhaps major professional or major college football.

1086
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: But when they organized, they organized, and I cite the

1087
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: three reasons that baysided was to combat players high salary demand,

1088
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: keep players from jumping from team to team, and to

1089
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: protect college eligibility. How we doing ninety nine years later,

1090
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: we thought of those same problems, right, but but just

1091
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: the same for them, those problems were really what was

1092
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: keeping them down a little bit in the sense of

1093
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: because of their small venues in particular, you know, they

1094
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: didn't have large playing facilities. So by organizing, they almost

1095
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: created their own death because their success began to become

1096
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: gradual but impressive, to the point that the small cities

1097
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: suffered by the entrances of larger cities like Cleveland and

1098
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: Chicago and New York joining the National Football Because it

1099
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: became known, the small team became relegated to kind of

1100
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: the traveling teams they had. They had to go to

1101
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: the big cities and willingly did because that's where the

1102
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: strong gates. There was more of a revenue share, a

1103
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: larger portion for them. So by doing that, essentially eventually

1104
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: they kind of became victims of their own success. They

1105
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: couldn't compete with the larger city teams. But Leo was

1106
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: one that hung in there for a long period of time.

1107
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: In fact, in nineteen twenty five he tried and failed,

1108
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: but tried to sign Red Grange, who was the biggest

1109
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: name in college football at the time. He lost to

1110
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: George Hollis and the Chicago Bears, and certainly that signing

1111
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: and that resulting barnstorming tour by Grange and the Bears

1112
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: really put pro football on the map. It could have

1113
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: been Leo Lyons and the Rochester Jefferson It just wasn't

1114
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: to be, though, Yeah, one of the things that's really

1115
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: interesting about is in the history part of it was

1116
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: that there were forty more than forty franchises affiliated with

1117
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: the National Football League that are no longer around. They

1118
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: couldn't make it because of you know, and just for

1119
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: nothing but fun. I'm just gonna read down the list

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00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: a quick list. It's the Muncie Flyers, the Akron Pros,

1121
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: the Canton Bulldogs, of course some of most of us

1122
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: have heard of those because of the days and because

1123
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: of the Hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio, the Orrang Indians,

1124
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: the Providence Steamroller, Pottsville Maroons, Evanston Crimson Giants, the Tonawanda

1125
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: car Decks, the Rochester Jeffersons of course, the Brooklyn Dodgers,

1126
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Texans that of course, the Buffalo all Americans,

1127
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: all of these teams that no longer exist. It was

1128
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: a huge long list. And how when did the National

1129
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: Football League start to coalesce into something more dependable or

1130
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: you know less, you know less, you know, washing these

1131
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: franchises through. When did it become kind of set in

1132
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: stone as to what the franchises were going to be forever? Yeah,

1133
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: it really starts Steve kind of with Joe Carr, who

1134
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: was the second president of the NFL. Jim Thorpe was

1135
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: president for the first year and then Joe cart took

1136
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: over and that position would be called Commissioner City, but

1137
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: back then it was called president. He had a vision.

1138
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: He was a minor league baseball executive. He had this

1139
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: vision of moving the small town teams into major cities.

1140
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: But following the minor league baseball experience that he had,

1141
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: he knew he had to have these other teams, all

1142
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: these the forty two you mentioned that failed they had.

1143
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: They played an important role to keep the game alive

1144
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: in communities as it grew, and then as it grew

1145
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: and got to major cities, he shrunk the league back

1146
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: down to a workable number. But that was happening, and

1147
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: really he took him right up until the very early

1148
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 1: nineteen thirties for that to happen. And in nineteen twenty

1149
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: seven there was a massive reorganization in which teams were

1150
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: essentially forced to turn in their franchises, as Carr was

1151
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: kind of weeding out the struggling teams. But in nineteen

1152
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: thirty two, there was this indoor game played in Chicago

1153
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: to end the season and in thirty three the leagues

1154
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: divided into two divisions, East and West, and that was

1155
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: really when things began to be more like football as

1156
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: we know. It's had two different divisions, and it had

1157
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: a championship game to determinus the league champion. Until that

1158
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: it was decided on a win loss percentage basis and

1159
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: was often argued about who actually wanted. So that was

1160
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: really one. It took about that first decade of struggles

1161
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 1: and changes and successes and failures before they got their

1162
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: their act together, so to speak. Joe, I know you

1163
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: wrote about this because I was paging through the book today,

1164
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: But the gray area between amateurism and professionals. Do you

1165
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 1: recall the guy is to cease now, But he came

1166
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: up maybe ten years ago, the oldest living NFL alumnus,

1167
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: Sam Salem Sam Dana from Kemmer, New York. We did

1168
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,959
Speaker 1: stories with him. He told me on Saturdays at times

1169
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 1: he would play college football for Colombia, and on Sundays

1170
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: he'd played pro football for the New York Yankees. That

1171
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: was common aspect, huh yeah, not only common, but our

1172
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: our Buffalo all Americans got caught doing with zogon the

1173
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: their near whole team would play all their star players

1174
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 1: on The Buffalo Americans in nineteen twenty one would play

1175
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 1: with the All Americans on Sunday, but on the previous

1176
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: Saturday they would play with the Philadelphia Quakers. So they

1177
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: were playing with two pro teams in the same week. Wow.

1178
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: They would just catch the train and go back and forth.

1179
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, college eligibility was a big thing, and often

1180
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: guys like Sam Dana would play under a different name

1181
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: same Slemmy was his real name, and they would played

1182
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: a different name on Sundays during the pro season. UH

1183
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: and while still maintaining his college eligibility at Columbia UH.

1184
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: Notre Dame was notorious Ford, as was the University of Illinois.

1185
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: Notre Dame caught nine of US starting players playing for

1186
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: a team in Taylor Belt, Illinois UH in one game,

1187
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: so yeah, it was new Rockery played for the masterlind

1188
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: Tigers on Saturday. Joe Joe Urge joins us. His book

1189
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: is the NFL Center. I want to fast forward a

1190
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: little bit to nineteen forty nine and the Altimerican Football

1191
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: Conference is folding and they merge with the NFL. But

1192
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: what only two teams got in San Francisco and Cleveland. Right,

1193
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: what happened to the Buffalo Bills, Well, there was actually

1194
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: there was actually a third a Baltimore Ravens Baltimore Baltimore

1195
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: Colts team that played in the All America Conference, and

1196
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: then they lasted only one year in the NFL Okay

1197
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: and then a new Baltimore Colts team replaced the Baltimore

1198
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: franchise later. How did those nineteen forty nine Buffalo Bills

1199
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: not get invited to the Big It was It was

1200
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: a lot of maneuvering at that point, and at one

1201
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: point it looked like they would and the Baltimore franchise,

1202
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: which was a miserably unsuccessful franchise. No one really clearly

1203
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: can ever explain why they came in other than they

1204
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: looked like they'd be a good competitor for a good

1205
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: rival for the Washington Redskins, and they were willing to

1206
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: pay the Redskins a viola or territorial key because they

1207
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: had the protected territory of the Washington Maryland. Anyway, Buffalo

1208
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: Um their their owner, negotiated a deal with the Cleveland Browns.

1209
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: Who was his name escaped right at the moment Nicky

1210
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: McBride clear Browns owner Cleveland Browns owner Uh, that they

1211
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: would essentially merge their teams, and it didn't happen quite

1212
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: as a merger of all the players. But Uh, I

1213
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: think his first name rule the owner of in school. Yeah. Uh.

1214
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: He got ten percent ownership of the Browns in exchange.

1215
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: So it was they were trying not to bring too

1216
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: many teams into expand the NFL too quickly, but they

1217
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: wanted the best players, and so some of the AFC

1218
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: owners agreed to these kind of mergers of ownership as

1219
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: opposed to mergers of teams. Then Lindheimer out in LA

1220
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: was the one who was invited to join with the Rams.

1221
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: He was he had the All American Conference uh Los

1222
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: Angeles franchise, and he opted not to. He said, known

1223
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: if I you know, if the whole team can't come,

1224
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go any of failing help. So

1225
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: it I went to a general. Then open draft of

1226
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: players is a part of the merger agreements. The New

1227
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: York Giant step first gives them some of the New

1228
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: York players and so it was really very designed so

1229
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: that the NFL teams existing NFL teams got stronger and

1230
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: just three teams came in from the All American Conference intact. Yeah,

1231
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: and then the next real big step for the NFL

1232
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: really happened as a result of the nineteen fifty nine

1233
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: effort by Lamar Hunt to get an NFL team, and

1234
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: they could, they wouldn't let him in. They wanted to

1235
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: keep the game small. And then the AFL came onto

1236
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: the landscape and then really the modern day NFL kind

1237
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: of took shape from that merger and the way the

1238
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: AFL went for a decade or so before they merged

1239
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: with the NFL again, correct, that's correct. Yeah, the nineteen

1240
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: sixty as you say, nineteen fifty nine, founded by Lamar

1241
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: Hunt and Bud Adams and Ralph Wilson were really kind

1242
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: of the three pillars of that league that really did

1243
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: define or create the NFL as we know it now.

1244
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 1: And all of the great, you know things that came

1245
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: from the fell into the NFL, including you know, things

1246
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: as simple as names on jerseys, but also the idea

1247
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: of the opening up the game and the way they

1248
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: scouted their players, because the AFL needed quality players right

1249
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: away to be competitive in the sense of the public's

1250
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: perception of this league, and they began to recruit players

1251
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: from historically black colleges and university something that had not

1252
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: been done or done frequently by the NFL, and that

1253
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: forced their hand to further integrate the league. As a

1254
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: result of that, and the great players like Bobby Belle

1255
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: and Willie Lanier and others that came out of HBC's

1256
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs said, Bobby Belt, Bobby Belt, they not

1257
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: Buck Buchanan, uh and others that came out of the

1258
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: HBC's really helped the AFL with its credibility. So the

1259
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: AFL really made tremendous contributions and as we know then

1260
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: with the merger, the greatest day in sports, the Super Bowl,

1261
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: really started because of the merger of the two leagues

1262
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: and having that ultimate championship game. Joe horgan our guests

1263
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: his book His NFL Century. Joe is a Buffalo native

1264
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: with a strong connection to the Bills. His dad, Jack Hargan,

1265
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: was public relations director of the Bills for a long time.

1266
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: Joe grew up here and Joe the Bills, like other

1267
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: NFL teams, are asking to have asked their fans to

1268
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: vote for the greatest moment in franchise history. With all

1269
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: you know about the Buffalo Bills franchise. Where would your

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Speaker 1: vote go for that? I mean, you can go to

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Speaker 1: the sixty four, sixty five AFL champions, you can go

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Speaker 1: to the super Bowl, you can go to the comeback game.

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Speaker 1: Where would your vote go for the greatest moment in

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Speaker 1: Bill's history? Boy, that's a really a tough one, Murph.

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Speaker 1: You know, Gigs, I could really cop out here and

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Speaker 1: say the greatest moment was when Ralph Wilson decided to

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Speaker 1: put the franchise in Buffalo. He was trying for Miami

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Speaker 1: and he was a Detroit native. So the fact that

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Speaker 1: he's selected eventually Buffalo as his sight, I think the

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Speaker 1: city's greatest moment. But that's that's kind of an easy,

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Speaker 1: easy top out for him. Yes, it is a singular moment,

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Speaker 1: you know, Oh gosh, you know, there's so many to

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Speaker 1: choose from. But you know, my heart is in those

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Speaker 1: sixty teams. And yet that come back that it was

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Speaker 1: orchestrated over the Houston Oilers was such a pivotal, pivotal moment.

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Speaker 1: The sense of arrival, if you will, during that era.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, that's I don't want to put you on

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Speaker 1: the spot, you know that I might gravitate towards that

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Speaker 1: one Murph that was just such a fantastic game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Joe's on his way back here to Western New York

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Speaker 1: for this weekend, the Legends weekend coming up here in

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Speaker 1: Western New York, including a high school football game. I

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Speaker 1: assume you're attending tomorrow, right, Joe, your albumount of Frontier

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Speaker 1: against hutch Tech at Johnny B. Wiley Stadium. Jefferson invested

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Speaker 1: that place will look familiar to you, right, the Old

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Speaker 1: Side War Memorial. Yeah, I haven't seen it since the

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Speaker 1: tremendous renovation I'm hearing about, but yeah, I'm kind of

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01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: anxious to see it. It won't be the old rock

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Speaker 1: pile as I recall as I remember it, But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about that and happy to be there. And

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great weekend. The tremendous response from

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Speaker 1: the Bills alumni. That's amazing. How many legends are coming back,

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01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: yea one hundred or more. You and I got to

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01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: roll to play Saturday night. We got to talk about that,

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Speaker 1: right that, the Legends Then we will, Yeah, we will. Well,

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01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: last thing, you worked for forty two years at the

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01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: Hall of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and is

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01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: it twenty twenty and one hundredth year of the league

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01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: comes about the Hall of Fame is allowing twenty new

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Speaker 1: members and it's I think it's an enormously good idea

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Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame to give some guys who

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Speaker 1: have had to wait a long time a chance to

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Speaker 1: get in. It is. What are your thoughts on that,

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Speaker 1: how it came about, and how tough a cell was

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Speaker 1: that to the voters and to the league itself to

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Speaker 1: do something special like that for the Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. Yeah, Thankdee that that was a long process

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Speaker 1: in terms that we began thinking about it a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago. And we always recognize and acknowledge that

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Speaker 1: that the senior category for the Pro Football Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame is a very tough row to hoe, and there

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Speaker 1: are so many great legends of the game that are

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Speaker 1: still not in the Hall of Fame that certainly deserves

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Speaker 1: serious consideration. But under the current by laws and format,

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01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, we were only taking one or two on

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01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: alternating years, and at that pace, the numbers weren't getting

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01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: very advancing very far. So we said, you know, with

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Speaker 1: the centennial coming up, and you know, the end of

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Speaker 1: one century thought a good opportunity to go back and

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Speaker 1: review that first century and say, where are the players,

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Speaker 1: coaches and contributors that certainly deserve to be in the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. How can we take a group of

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01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 1: them at one time to kind of signify that we're

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01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: we're still looking at the past, but we want to

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Speaker 1: make a giant leap as we move into the future.

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't a hard sell at all to our

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Speaker 1: Board of trusteesier to the Board of Selectors. Obviously there's

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01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 1: debates even ongoing and will be forever as to the

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01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: process of how we do it, but the concept and

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01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: the need, I think was unanimous. So we have a

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Speaker 1: Blue ribbid committee that they're going to use to select

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Speaker 1: the ten senior nominees, the three contributors and two coaches

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01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: that will make up fifteen of the twenty, and then

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01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: the five modern era of candidates will be selected by

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01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: our Board of Selectors as they would annually every year.

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01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 1: So it's a combination of two different groups making those choices.

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01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 1: But in the end, we feel that we've got the

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Speaker 1: best people, the best minds looking at this to come

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01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: up with the greatest class we could possibly have. And

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01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: when you think about it, twenty for twenty twenty, it

1351
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: can only happen once, and it can only happen in Canton, Ohio,

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01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: the birthplace of the NFL. So we want to celebrate it,

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01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: and we want to celebrate the past as we look

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01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: to the future. And that's exactly what we're going to do. Joe,

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Speaker 1: I got one more for you. In your introduction, you

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01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: mentioned that you got a note from Commissioner Roger Goodell.

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01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: He referred to you as the finest historian. I know

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01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: that's really cool, that's really high praise. So as a historian, look,

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01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: I'll confess I'm a Roger Goodell fan, and I know

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01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: he's had missteps, and I know his popularity is up

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Speaker 1: and down. How will history treat Roger Goodell and his

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01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: ten years commissioners over? What do you think? So? I

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01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: think very well, I'm a Roger Goodell fan too. And

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01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, this is an unenviable task to be the

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01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: commissioner of a sports laden today because and I mean

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01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: that sincerely, because you know you are literally the employee

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01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: of in this case, thirty two owners, and yet at

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Speaker 1: the same time you have to maintain the integrity as

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01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: Roger always calls to protect the shield, maintain the integrity

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Speaker 1: of the league. And this is a world where there

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01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: is distant news and every misstep or step is followed

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Speaker 1: and put under the microscope, well much more than it

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01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 1: ever has been done before, so everybody is very guarded

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Speaker 1: in how they approach things. Roger has had to make

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01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: some pretty bold moves, many of which I think seem

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01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: apparent to people that they're the right thing to do,

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01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: But believe me, they're difficult decisions to make because he

1378
01:07:56,040 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: has to understand and consider all the ramifications, whether for

1379
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: a team's future or just or maintaining piece among the owners.

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01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 1: There are just so many things that he has to

1381
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 1: consider what each step he takes. Previous commissioners have had

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01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: that same dilemma, but they could do it behind closed doors,

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01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 1: almost in the sense that it wasn't so so involved

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01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 1: in the public scrutiny. So Roger I think he's done

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01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: a masterful job of that, and a lot of the

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01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 1: owners and this is this is a very important thing too.

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01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 1: You know, many owners, I know many ours, most of

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01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: them really do have a sense of history and the idea.

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01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:35,759
Speaker 1: They understand the importance of league sink and protect the shield.

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01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 1: So you know, while it's a difficult task, I think

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01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 1: it's one that's unanimous in its need. And that's what

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01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: a commissioner should do. And I say, I think Roger's

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01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 1: done a great job so far. Is how he addresses

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01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 1: the issues that face it every week. Book, Joe, I'm

1395
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 1: gonna read it. I know, I got a book I'm

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01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: into Now I'm gonna put aside. I'm going to dive

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Speaker 1: into this book. Hey, you have a safe trip up here.

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Speaker 1: We will see you this weekend. Thanks for joining us. Okay,

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Speaker 1: thanks for thanks. Joe. Joe Hargan Western New York native.

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01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:07,879
Speaker 1: He is the former executive director of the Pro Football

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01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. He spent forty two years there. Rod

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01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: Odell says he's the finest history and he knows, which

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01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 1: is pretty cool. His book NFL Century, The one hundred

1404
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 1: year Rise of America's Greatest sports league. It's it looks good, right,

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01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 1: we both pay and shut. We got it yesterday. He's

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01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 1: been involved with for forty two percent of the years. Yeah,

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01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: it's been great. He has been with the Hall of

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01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: Fame and obviously had opportunities to interact with some of

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Speaker 1: the more legendary people of the league that we know,

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01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: not only current but in past years as well, and

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01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: also the movers and shakers of guys who actually did

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01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: the stuff that made this league great. It's gotta be

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01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 1: an interesting read. I had to dive into it as well. Yeah, yeah,

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01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 1: maybe we'll get Joe back once we read it. Joe,

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Speaker 1: I got another question for you. Joe will be here

1416
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: this weekend. Were the Legends events coming up this weekend? Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get back to the Bills and the Patriots

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Speaker 1: the center piece of the whole weekend for the Buffalo Bills.

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01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: I don't know from you which matchup in this game?

1420
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: Are you most looking forward to? Give us a call

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01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 1: to discuss eight oh three oh five fifty toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. You

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01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: can vote on it in our Twitter poll at one

1424
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: Bills Live, or you can send in a tweet. We

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01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: won't read it on the tweet sheet. Come on back.

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Speaker 1: We'll get more into that when we return. One Bill

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Speaker 1: Slive presented by a Lot of Health from Seneca Studio

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Speaker 1: at One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Don

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Speaker 1: pc Casker, One Bills Live coming to you from the

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Speaker 1: Seneca studio, the Bills at work in the field house.

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Speaker 1: Did you go out and look at practice? Are they

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01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: still going on? Where it's still going on? Yeah? Can

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Speaker 1: you give us an update? They're running around doing stuff.

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01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm looking at it. That's why

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01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 1: we brought him in here. That kind of expertise. You

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01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 1: don't get that anywhere else. Steven Tanker's reports from practice.

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01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 1: You guys seemed to be playing some offense and some

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01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 1: guys seem to be playing default. And now we're getting

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01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: a little don't give away anything very straight. Patriots are

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Speaker 1: monitoring this show. Do not give anything away. Our Twitter

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01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: poll today deals with the Bills Patriots matchup. What do

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01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 1: you think and what part of this matchup intrigued you

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01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 1: the most? Which matchup are you most looking forward to?

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01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: That's our Twitter pole. We've got a thousand responses so

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01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 1: far and leading the pack. Forty eight percent of you

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01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: think you're looking forward to the Bills new wide receivers

1447
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: against the New England secondary. Twenty two percent of you

1448
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 1: say you're looking forward to watching the Bills running game

1449
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 1: against New England's defense. Twenty three percent say that, eighteen

1450
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 1: percent say you're looking for Jerry Hughes against Marshall Newhouse,

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Speaker 1: who apparently is not at practice today left tackle for

1452
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Speaker 1: New England. And twelve percent say you're looking forward to

1453
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: watching Tredevius White against Josh Gordon. Tredevius coming up on

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01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: the show here in a minute, let's not do you

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Speaker 1: think phone lines open eight oh three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: and toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty cent in a tweet. We can read him

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Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet. Let's go to a call here,

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Speaker 1: Tom and Buffalo high time. Go ahead, you're on the air. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: have quicksaw here, just wondering how the deals with you

1461
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: if Tyler Croft is up to player this week one

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01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: running back start to play over the smash mouth in

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01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 1: the first half. I'd love to see how to make

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01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: the deals. Just that I think they'd have to shift

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01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: to a bigger package. Their defense istiftically happy on the

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01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,560
Speaker 1: back end, with all the quality safeties and cornerbacks that

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01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: I've just wondered if we can't bully them into going

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01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: to a bigger package and then we could always throw

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Speaker 1: what do you think? I'm all in, Let's go, I'll

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Speaker 1: try it. Yeah, why not. I don't know if Tyler

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Speaker 1: Croft can go this week. I kind of doubt it,

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01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 1: but we haven't even I don't even he's been off

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01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: my radar, even on the on the injury list. But

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01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 1: they I think they gotta, no question, the Bills are

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01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 1: gonna have to do some things they haven't shown to

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01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Now, they're gonna still surprise him with some things,

1477
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 1: some wrinkles. Brian Dabo will get some be creative, as

1478
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 1: he knows, you gotta be uh and he's got to

1479
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 1: keep his foot on the gas. But don't think for

1480
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 1: a minute that you're gonna be able to do that

1481
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: one thing that you suggested and do it all day

1482
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: and it's gonna work all day, because it won't. I mean,

1483
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 1: they'll go heavy, and they'll match up, they'll they'll do

1484
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 1: some things to counteract it and so and by the way,

1485
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 1: you also got to play defense and special teams against

1486
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 1: those guys too, So you got to come up with

1487
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 1: something there that's equally as effective. But no question, doing

1488
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: some unexpected things is a good idea when you're going

1489
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 1: into a team a game like this doing something. But

1490
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: let's face it all comes down to your ability to execute,

1491
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: and I don't know that the Patriots can't put out

1492
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 1: you know, ten big guys that are better than our

1493
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: ten big guys, our four tight ends. You know who knows.

1494
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what they've got under the sleeve. So

1495
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm all four being creative as long as

1496
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 1: it works. I want to see him run, though, I

1497
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 1: think I do want to see him run time as

1498
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 1: you do and be successful at it. They've been pretty

1499
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 1: good obviously, the Patriot has been great against the run.

1500
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 1: But teams don't have a chance when they're falling behind

1501
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 1: early barely, you know. And I've watched all three Patriots

1502
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 1: games now barely competitive games for them. The first three

1503
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 1: barely competitive, right, a little bit maybe early on? I mean,

1504
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: the Jets didn't have much for him, the Dolphins had

1505
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: nothing for him, and the Steelers game was okay, but

1506
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: not that competitive. So it's hard to And we talked

1507
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: about this with Brownie. We talked about and Sean mcdermer

1508
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: talked about it. How to assess what you're looking at

1509
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 1: when you're looking at those those first three games that

1510
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: New England has played. And the numbers don't add up

1511
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 1: too much either, right, I mean, yeah, Okay, nobody's you know,

1512
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: they've The Jets never converted a third down last week,

1513
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: and the Patriots are given up like thirteen percent third down.

1514
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 1: And I looked at that this morning. I was a

1515
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: crunch of numbers and thinking that's unbelievable. They're great on

1516
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: third down. And then I thought, I remember the video

1517
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 1: I watched. Teams were barely competitive against them. So I

1518
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 1: don't know how much stock to put into it. I

1519
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 1: think the Bills might be able to run against the

1520
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:42,759
Speaker 1: Patriots have played two home games, one against the Steelers,

1521
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: a night game, opening the season on a Sunday night, right,

1522
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: I believe it was a Sunday night game. Yeah, And

1523
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 1: then they played on the road against the Dolphins when

1524
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 1: they went down there to avenge the miracle in Miami game.

1525
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 1: And then they played the Jets at home. Um, the

1526
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins had I think Josh Rosen is their quarterback?

1527
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: Correct or who was it? It was all right, so

1528
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick at their court at their as their quarterback. And

1529
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: then they played Luke Falk for the New York Jets. Um,

1530
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: you know they've been played played. Some teams have got

1531
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 1: off to rough starts. Ben Roethlisberger couldn't be considered one

1532
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 1: hundred percent last in the opening week when they came in,

1533
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 1: and the next week through about four passes and was out,

1534
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 1: so he probably wasn't one hundred percent. Although you know

1535
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: the Steelers, you would expect them to play better than

1536
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: they did. So anyway, Uh yeah, it's hard to assess

1537
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:41,560
Speaker 1: how good the Patriots are. This just end. They're probably

1538
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: pretty good despite who the teams they played. Let's just go,

1539
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I hope you can smell the sarcasm on

1540
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 1: my voice. They're probably pretty good. Despite the fact that

1541
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: they've played two teams that were non competitive. They're still

1542
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 1: probably pretty good because they crushed those two teams. That's

1543
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: hard to do in the NFL. I got it, I

1544
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 1: hear you, So you know, don't you know what I mean?

1545
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 1: Pump your brakes on. Thinking the Patriots are walking through

1546
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 1: an easy schedule, They're still good. They've walked through an

1547
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 1: easy schedule, as have the Billy have crushed an easy schedule.

1548
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: Let's go to Elvin and the Bronx. Hello, Elvin, Welcome

1549
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 1: to the show. Hey guys, how are you guys doing today?

1550
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: How's every drinking? I'm good. I'm good. Listen as one

1551
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,839
Speaker 1: of your call is called. Before I wondered, I literally

1552
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,959
Speaker 1: jumped up. He stole, he stole my game plan exactly.

1553
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,759
Speaker 1: The Keeta beating them, I believe is at Oliver, especially

1554
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 1: being that they don't have the center their primary center.

1555
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: I think the key to beat them is up to move.

1556
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 1: I think the Bills team is designed to beat this team. UM.

1557
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 1: They not intimidated. They respect the Patriots, but I think

1558
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: this group of guys aren't intimidated, and I think I

1559
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 1: think we'll do well. I don't want to get too happy,

1560
01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 1: but I think we'll be. Okay, you've lost me. Who's intimidated. No,

1561
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 1: I don't think the UM. I don't think guys. I

1562
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 1: don't think I got Oh yeah, no, I don't either.

1563
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 1: But I don't think they. I think this young group

1564
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 1: of guys, they they they pumped up and they fight

1565
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 1: it up. Man. I think we finally got a team

1566
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 1: that can compete on the teacher's level. Well, we'll see. Yeah,

1567
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who would who we've who've

1568
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 1: said that, We've all a lot of us have said

1569
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: that before. It's never been true, or at least that's

1570
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: not in the last twenty years. I mean it's it's

1571
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 1: you know, there have been some games where we nicked them. Uh,

1572
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 1: but you know, this is a team is hard to

1573
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 1: beat and most people are gonna believe it when they

1574
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 1: see it. And I get you, Elvin, there's a lot

1575
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: of optimism here and there's certainly a lot to be

1576
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 1: proud of in this building for the Buffalo Bills. But

1577
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 1: you know, you you gotta it's you gotta win, you

1578
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:50,440
Speaker 1: gotta win, and this is a team that is particularly

1579
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: important for those interested in this team to see beat.

1580
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: They want to see this team beat this team that

1581
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 1: the Patriots, you know, they're you know, the Jets are okay, fine,

1582
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 1: the Bengals fine, okay, fine. I want to see you

1583
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: beat the New England Patriots. That's what a lot of

1584
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: people are sitting on their hands waiting for. Let's go

1585
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 1: to Mike and Rochester. Hello, Mike, welcome to the show. Hey,

1586
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: the match up I'd like to see as Jerry he

1587
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 1: was against the refs, against the refs. I hope he. Jerry,

1588
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 1: you're looking for Gary to show up this week right now?

1589
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 1: I hope he keeps in line and doesn't cost the

1590
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 1: Bills any penalties. Jerry be fine. I think he's got

1591
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 1: that under control. Why do you say that, Mike, Well,

1592
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 1: like in the Giants game, he got literally tackled by

1593
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 1: their offensive tackles and held out no penalties. Oh, I

1594
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 1: thought you're talking about Jerry's pension for creating fifteen yard

1595
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: unsports when I conduct type penalties. No, No, okay, all right, thanks,

1596
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:50,719
Speaker 1: one more call here. Let's go to market in Tanawan

1597
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 1: to go ahead and Mark you're on the air. Hey, guys,

1598
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. I think it's clear the

1599
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 1: Bill's got to play off four quarters that can't handle

1600
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: those little hiccup you know, whether it's like the first

1601
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,759
Speaker 1: drive of the Jet game or you know, Josh Allen

1602
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 1: turn over the ball against the Bengals. But I just

1603
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 1: want to key in on three guys, Tyron Johnson, Tremaine Edmunds,

1604
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 1: and Matt Mlane. If they, if Edmonds can just be

1605
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 1: that these tea is in the middle and they can

1606
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 1: make plays and take away those short intermediate throws that

1607
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 1: Brady's made a living on and he's fantastic at. If

1608
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 1: they can create turnalvers and create some chaos in their

1609
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 1: passing game, I think he's got a good chance of winning.

1610
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna hang up and listen, all right, Okay, thanks? Yeah,

1611
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 1: I mean it's it is a it's a game of matchups.

1612
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: We've we've talked about a lot when you're talking about

1613
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 1: the general NFL in general. That's why we asked this question, Um,

1614
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 1: what matchup are you most looking forward to seeing? The

1615
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 1: interesting thing is I wonder what matchup Brian Dables looking

1616
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 1: forward to get? You know, wonder what I wonder what

1617
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 1: matchup Josh McDaniels is looking forward to getting for Tom Brady.

1618
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,679
Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. Because they they study

1619
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: these guys, They know their own players better than we

1620
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:06,759
Speaker 1: know any of these players, and they probably Josh McDaniels

1621
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: probably got a good handle on the Bills defenders better

1622
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 1: than most Bills fans do. That's just the way it

1623
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: is in this league. I'm really interested, and we've all

1624
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: we were all in that kind of same spot. Man.

1625
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 1: What are the Patriots gonna do to our team? What

1626
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 1: do they see our team doing that they can take

1627
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: advantage of? Where do they see our weaknesses? Because we

1628
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 1: all seen them take advantage of weaknesses before. What do

1629
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: they see in that? Because this team doesn't have weaknesses

1630
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: like the you know, the last edition of this team did.

1631
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: This is a different offense, how do I'm really interested

1632
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 1: to see what the Patriots see in our team, because

1633
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: we all have this, you know, we all sometimes are

1634
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 1: you and I will apologize for it. I put rose

1635
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: colored glasses on once in a while. I like these

1636
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: guys because I appreciate the effort they've put into every

1637
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 1: facet of what they're doing. I appreciate them, so I'm

1638
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: kind of you know, I'm admittedly once in a while,

1639
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: I'm blind to some things that other people may see.

1640
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see what the Patriots think about

1641
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 1: this squad, because how they play him will tell us everything. Yep,

1642
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,680
Speaker 1: Hey tweet sheet brought you by Corgan Moving Systems, the

1643
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 1: official movers of the Buffalo Bills. Which matchup you're most

1644
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 1: looking forward to from the tweet sheet from Buffalo Super

1645
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 1: Bowl Parade. On the tweet sheet, he says, Jerry Hugh's

1646
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 1: gonna get held every play and there's not likely to

1647
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 1: be many calls on that, so that won't be an

1648
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: interesting one. Sadly, he says, I gotta go with Bill's

1649
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 1: wide receivers versus Patriots secondary that means, by extension, Josh

1650
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 1: Allen versus Belichick. I do think Josh Allen versus Belichick

1651
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 1: is interesting. And I'm sure and that's another one you'd

1652
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 1: like to beat the fly in the ball, right yeah,

1653
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 1: Coach Belichick, give us your breakdown of an answer. Please

1654
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 1: give us your breakdown of Josh Allen. Right right. I'm

1655
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 1: sure it's got a book on the good and bad

1656
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 1: of Josh Allen. Right, It's been a lot of fun

1657
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: watching Josh Allen takes strides forward. Certainly, we've seen him

1658
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: stumble a couple of times and do these bone head

1659
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 1: throws once in a while, but we also see the

1660
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: next play when he comes out and gives you something Wow,

1661
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 1: you know, it gives you a highlight. So it's been

1662
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of a roller coaster with him. But man,

1663
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 1: oh man, there's been a lot of highlights, enough highlights

1664
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 1: to take him to a three and oh season. And

1665
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 1: I think this is from Big Malta. He says, Listen,

1666
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 1: I want to see the matchup. I want to see

1667
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 1: I want to see Josh Allen and his new weapons.

1668
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna need to move the ball through the air

1669
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 1: and put points on the board. Quick. We don't want

1670
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: the Pats hanging around too long because they always seem

1671
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 1: to beat us. Go deep first, and often set the

1672
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 1: tone and compliment it with the run. Yeah that's don't

1673
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 1: let him hang around. Don't let him hang I don't

1674
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 1: let the Patriots hang around. Just crush him early, right, Yeah,

1675
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 1: that's what yeh. Look, But the point about scoring I

1676
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: thought early those colored glasses is important to get points early,

1677
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 1: to remove the mystique of you know, now they're up

1678
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: to x many quarters without giving up an offensive touchdown. No,

1679
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: let's get beyond that early in this game. And let's

1680
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 1: let's see the Bills go deep in this game, maybe early,

1681
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, shake him up a little bit, don't let

1682
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 1: them get comfortable here. Set the tone, as big Multi says,

1683
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 1: and compliment it with the run. Yeah, run the ball,

1684
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 1: but go deep. Make a big play downfield the Bills

1685
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 1: week one. I keep keep hearing people say the Bills

1686
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 1: they haven't made any big plays. They had some big

1687
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 1: plays in Week one against the Jets, including the game

1688
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 1: winning touchdown the thirty eight yard or to John Brown.

1689
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 1: They can do that. They had six plays a twenty

1690
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 1: plus show. Yeah, they can do things like that. They

1691
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 1: tried with Robert Foster this past Sunday. I think they're capable,

1692
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: but they got to do it, and they got to

1693
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 1: strike early and do it early. And as Chris Brown

1694
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:31,600
Speaker 1: and I were saying, be aggressive forced the issue on

1695
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 1: these guys, I think that might be the number one

1696
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: key in this game. Yeah, you certainly can't take your

1697
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: foot off the gas. You've got to continue to play.

1698
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what the scoreboard says. You've got to

1699
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 1: keep playing. And I think, more so than anything else,

1700
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: I said it earlier in the week, and another way

1701
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 1: to put the same thing. I always said, you can't

1702
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 1: make mistakes against the Patriots. They you know, they just

1703
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 1: take advantage of your mistakes. But listen, they're a football team,

1704
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 1: just like any other football team. Once in a while,

1705
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: there's going to be a vulnerability in someplace. You're gonna

1706
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:02,480
Speaker 1: have a play when you gotta hit on every opportunity

1707
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: you get. You gotta make come through on those. You've

1708
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 1: got to make the plays that are there to be made.

1709
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 1: They're not gonna give you anything. But when you earn something,

1710
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 1: you gotta get it. You gotta take it and put

1711
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: it on the board, or you gotta take those yards,

1712
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 1: and you gotta make them pay for it, because that's

1713
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 1: the only way to beat him. You gotta have if

1714
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: fifty three guys on your roster, you gotta be hitting

1715
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 1: on fifty three cylinders because the Patriots will make your

1716
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 1: fifty third guy beat you. And if your fifty third

1717
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: guy is up to the task, you can win. But

1718
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 1: it's not. It may not be Frank Gore Josh Allen

1719
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 1: that wins. It may be you know, John Feliciano, or

1720
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: it may be your third cornerback. It may be sirand Neil.

1721
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 1: It may be you know Robert Foster, who's got like

1722
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: four targets over the last month, right, I mean, maybe

1723
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 1: somebody like that who they say, Okay, if you're gonna

1724
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 1: beat us, you're gonna beat us with Bob Foster. You know.

1725
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 1: That may be where the Patriots go. But you gotta

1726
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: be ready. Those guys that I mentioned have got to

1727
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 1: be ready for four quarters, which matchup you're most looking

1728
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 1: forward to. Let us know, we'll talk more about this

1729
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 1: when we return. Hey, this Sunday, the Bills Foundation and

1730
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:11,439
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Speaker 1: ticket gets eighty thousand dollars or fifty percent of the

1736
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 1: net proceeds, which tipper is higher. The remaining money goes

1737
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 1: to support the Buffalo Bills Foundation, supporting youth health and

1738
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 1: wellness initiatives in Western New York. Steve and I coming

1739
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: back with more One Bills Live, presented by a lot

1740
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 1: of help from the Seneca Studio. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

1741
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,520
Speaker 1: Got Damas White going to be on our show momentarily.

1742
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 1: He is just wrapping up practice outside, well inside, on

1743
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: the other side of the wall there inside the Pro

1744
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 1: Sports Training Center. Trade Day, two interceptions. Last week, you

1745
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 1: had a big game, and I think the Bills are

1746
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 1: looking for more. I was thinking the game like last

1747
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 1: week is the type of game that gets that we'll

1748
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: get Trade Day in the Pro Bowl, Right, A couple

1749
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 1: of more of those, not every week, but a couple

1750
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 1: more multiple interception games. That's how you get in the

1751
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:18,759
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Yeah. Absolutely, and you do it against teams

1752
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 1: like this, and it makes a big difference, certainly the

1753
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: numbers when teams go down and they say, oh yeah yeah,

1754
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 1: but if he you know, you pick one off and

1755
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 1: go to the distance against this crew. Yeah, people take notice.

1756
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 1: Yeah I took notice. You should too, Tardavius coming on

1757
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: with us. Let's go to the phone's Joe and Tonawanda. Joe,

1758
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air of this, Hey, guys, um.

1759
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 1: I think the biggest matchup is who's gonna watch Rambo

1760
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 1: this week? I think something from him? And yeah, I

1761
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,719
Speaker 1: have another question about last week? Why was it servers

1762
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 1: a challenge on that obvious interference? The guy chopped his

1763
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: hands down before the ball even got there, and it

1764
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 1: wasn't that well play. I don't remember that play review

1765
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,719
Speaker 1: that we play, Joe, I don't know what you're talking about.

1766
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 1: What quarter win was it? I think it was against

1767
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,719
Speaker 1: I think it was Dawson Knox in the end zone.

1768
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: You could see from one team. Oh, it was a

1769
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 1: long throw from Josh when he when he was his

1770
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 1: arms down before the ot there and there was no call,

1771
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 1: And I was wondering if that was reviewable, that probably

1772
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 1: would be reviewable yes, yeah, because you didn't cover it

1773
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 1: this week and I was just wondering. Uh. And one

1774
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 1: more thing, I don't think it's fair that, uh, that

1775
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 1: teams are allowed to bait a team in the going

1776
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 1: for two, just like Cincinnati did with the twelve minute

1777
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 1: of the field, because New England did it to us

1778
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 1: last year, and I just don't that. I think that's

1779
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 1: unsportsman like. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, you mean

1780
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 1: they took a penalty in order to get it closer

1781
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 1: to their goal line so that they would they hoped

1782
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 1: the team would go for two. Jo, Is that what

1783
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 1: you're saying. I think that's what you're saying. I didn't

1784
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 1: read it that right, I think, Um, I think that's

1785
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 1: crazy talk. Yeah, I think that's crazy talk. I don't know.

1786
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 1: I don't think you take a penalty on purpose so

1787
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 1: that a team will have a chance to score more

1788
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 1: points on you with a one yard plunge. Yeah, I

1789
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think that's supported by analytics. This

1790
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 1: call from Jay in Buffalo, Hello, Jay, Hey, guys, how

1791
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 1: you doing good. I know people are already trying to

1792
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 1: minimize this game with the Patriots. I feel like it's

1793
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 1: you know, the fetis statitude with Bill fans. Yeah, this

1794
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 1: is a huge game. Who's trying to minimize Everybody's like saying, Oh,

1795
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 1: if you lose the game, you know, don't don't take it.

1796
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: You know, so bad? If we lose, it's sable Bills.

1797
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned, we're playing over a championship,

1798
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,599
Speaker 1: all right. We're not playing to just get in the playoffs.

1799
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 1: First step is to be the Patriots to win the division.

1800
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 1: Next step to home field. I mean that's how I see,

1801
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 1: That's how you guys got to the super Bowl. Do

1802
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 1: you want to the division? If you share the home field?

1803
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 1: It's something the last year and that made a big difference.

1804
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 1: That's will put you on the super Bowl. Run Jay,

1805
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 1: let me stop you and just ask you this question.

1806
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 1: If the Patriots should win Sunday, if the Bill should lose,

1807
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 1: does that mean the division cannot be won? The super

1808
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 1: Bowl cannot be one? Is that what you're saying? If

1809
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 1: they get blown out? Well, what's a blowout matter? Why

1810
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 1: does that matter? Because you're they're competitive. I think it

1811
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 1: speaks a little bit differently. Oh I don't, I don't

1812
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 1: blown out. I take it's blown out, guys, it's the

1813
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 1: same old season. No, there's there's seventy five percent of

1814
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 1: the season left, win, lose, blowout or not. I don't

1815
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 1: agree with that. I should hear it. In order to

1816
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 1: beat the be the man, you got to beat the man. Okay,

1817
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Jay, I'll tell you that. I'll

1818
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 1: tell you this. I do agree with them one thing.

1819
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 1: There is a lot of people you see here him

1820
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 1: on our show. We get callers, you get callers other

1821
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 1: shows I've listened to on this station where people say, yeah,

1822
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 1: they don't want to commit to saying, hey, this is

1823
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 1: a game we need to win. Or were they just say,

1824
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, each just play him close. You know, they

1825
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 1: just got that. They got that, they got that defeatist attitude,

1826
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 1: which is what Jay was kind of referring to. But

1827
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 1: I don't I think you know, listen, you gotta take it.

1828
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say you gotta go down the middle

1829
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 1: of this thing and split the difference. I do think

1830
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:24,639
Speaker 1: you need to go into this game with some confidence,

1831
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 1: no question about it. This is a team that's got

1832
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 1: the talent to beat the Patriots, but you're gonna have

1833
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 1: to play better football than you have in the first

1834
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 1: three weeks to get it done. But the Patriots are

1835
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 1: in the same boat. They're gonna have to play good,

1836
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,599
Speaker 1: better football, in a more complete game, and certainly deeper

1837
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 1: into the game to put this team away. So I

1838
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 1: think that goes on both sides of it. But I

1839
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:45,680
Speaker 1: think there are a lot of Bills fans out there

1840
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 1: that just don't want to go to the point where

1841
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 1: it say we got to win this game because they

1842
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 1: don't have all that much confidence that anybody can beat

1843
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 1: that team. We had this discussion two days ago and

1844
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 1: when we talked about, um the significance of the win

1845
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 1: and does it define the season? I do not think

1846
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 1: it defines the season, and Jay, it sounds like you

1847
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:04,719
Speaker 1: think it may. I know that there's seventy five percent

1848
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 1: of the regular season remaining win or lose after this Sunday,

1849
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 1: and I think the Bills should go all out to

1850
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 1: win the Sunday, and the fans too should be all

1851
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:15,599
Speaker 1: out win this Sunday. Win this game, absolutely, but it

1852
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:17,800
Speaker 1: doesn't end the season if they don't. And it's not

1853
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:19,679
Speaker 1: the same old Bills. If they do or they don't,

1854
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 1: it's a different matchup. It's a different team. They're different

1855
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 1: on that though, and it's a different team, yes, but

1856
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 1: it's the same result two games. Watch the Patriots every

1857
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:29,880
Speaker 1: year and it's one. By the way, Sunday. They're not

1858
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 1: losing two Sunday or winning two Sunday. I think you're

1859
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 1: your own worst enemy here, Jay, to be honest with you,

1860
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 1: you're the one who say you're the one with a

1861
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 1: defeatist attitude if they lose. You just said, if they

1862
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 1: lose Sunday, they lose both to the Patriots. Come on

1863
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:46,759
Speaker 1: and you don't win the division and that's huge. Yeah,

1864
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 1: they can win the division even if they lose Sunday.

1865
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 1: I hope they win Sunday, but this is not the

1866
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 1: division clinching game Sunday. There's seventy five percent of the

1867
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 1: season left and in order you got to go through

1868
01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 1: the Patriots. And now's the time, and I'm sick of

1869
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,600
Speaker 1: for the last fifty years. Let's go out there and

1870
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 1: kick their butt and send a message to the entire

1871
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:07,679
Speaker 1: NFL the world. Okay, all right, man with you, let's

1872
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 1: do it. Win the game. I'm totally with you. But

1873
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 1: you're right, I mean, you can't. You can't put nothing

1874
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 1: into this game, and you can't put everything into this game.

1875
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:18,879
Speaker 1: Thank you. This game means what it should mean. Certainly,

1876
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 1: it's it's the toughest game of the year so far,

1877
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 1: and it's and there's a lot of extra baggage because

1878
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 1: of the history between this for for fans, but these

1879
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 1: but that doesn't that doesn't cut any ice with the

1880
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:33,559
Speaker 1: locker room. Neither one of these teams are looking back

1881
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 1: at last year saying, oh, yeah, you know what we uh,

1882
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 1: you know, we got a better team. Now listen, this

1883
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 1: this team. You gotta beat him this year with this crew.

1884
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 1: You don't have to beat him with Tyrod Taylor or

1885
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:49,040
Speaker 1: Freddie Jackson. You don't have to beat him with Ryan

1886
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick at quarterback and you know somebody else playing, right.

1887
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 1: You gotta beat him with these guys in this room.

1888
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 1: And the Patriots have got to beat you with this

1889
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 1: defense and this offense to contend with. So it don't

1890
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:04,639
Speaker 1: put everything into this game. But don't say it means

1891
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:06,600
Speaker 1: nothing if they don't win it, you know, if it

1892
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 1: means nothing if they don't win either, because it does

1893
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:12,680
Speaker 1: mean something. But man, oh man, you know we're so

1894
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:14,680
Speaker 1: sideways over this. You know some of the you know,

1895
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 1: this conversation gets gets so you know, gets so much,

1896
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 1: you know, churned up in motion and angst for Bills fans.

1897
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 1: And it's because of the history. It's the history that

1898
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 1: does it to you. Forget about all that, man, this

1899
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 1: is the history doesn't mean anything. So it's a new

1900
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 1: coaching staff for the Bills. It's a new offense for

1901
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 1: the Bills. It's a new defense for the Bills. Despite

1902
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:36,760
Speaker 1: all the same players they got coming back. And it's

1903
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:38,599
Speaker 1: the same thing on the other side. This is a

1904
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 1: different team this year for the Patriots. So I'm you know,

1905
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 1: it is an important game, but it's one of sixteen.

1906
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 1: All right, a break. We're coming back. Todavious White schedule

1907
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 1: to join us in the third and final hour of

1908
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 1: the show, So come on back to that. One Bill's

1909
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 1: Life presented by Klaida Health from the Seneca Studio in

1910
01:33:55,640 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 1: Orchard Park. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Hill Suadio Network.

1911
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 1: Sports update update from One Bill's Drive. Bill's practice is

1912
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,759
Speaker 1: over for this say they'll be on the field again tomorrow.

1913
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:19,759
Speaker 1: They worked out inside the ad Pro Sports Training Center today.

1914
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:22,720
Speaker 1: The weather got good. It's nice out here in Archpark now,

1915
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 1: but they did work out inside. We got an update

1916
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 1: on the condition of some of the players who did

1917
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 1: not practice yesterday, including running back Devin Singletary. The motor

1918
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 1: has been out of practice for about a week and

1919
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 1: a half, but the peer his practice began today that

1920
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 1: he might get in some limited work helmet on soon.

1921
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 1: It up looked like he might be ready to go.

1922
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 1: The Patriots left tackle Marshall Newhouse missing practice today. He

1923
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 1: was limited yesterday, He was ill yesterday and not on

1924
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: the field today. Marshall Newhouse started at left tackle last week,

1925
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 1: started at right tackle the week before that. Patriots quarterback

1926
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,720
Speaker 1: Tom Brady has been limited in three of his last

1927
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 1: four practices. He says he's old. Says I wouldn't say

1928
01:34:57,320 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 1: him a spring chicken anymore. He's forty two years old.

1929
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 1: Little doubt though, the Brady will play Sunday against the Bills,

1930
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 1: a couple of three and O teams. Patriots just added

1931
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:09,120
Speaker 1: another quarterback yesterday, free agent Cody Kessler, to alleviate some

1932
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:12,680
Speaker 1: practice time issues for Tom Brady Bill's Patriots Sunday one

1933
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 1: o'clock in newer Field. The radio broadcast right here on

1934
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 1: our flagship WGR Sports Radio five fifty. I'll have to

1935
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:20,680
Speaker 1: call of the game with Eric Wood and Salcapacho will

1936
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 1: be on the sidelines. Third Tonight Football Tonight, as the

1937
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:26,280
Speaker 1: NFL week gets started eight twenty tonight. It is the

1938
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:29,240
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles one and two and the Green Bay Packers

1939
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 1: three and ozo. The Packers opt to their first three

1940
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 1: and oh start in the last four years. They've been

1941
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 1: held under three hundred forty total yards in all three games,

1942
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 1: and they are winning despite that fact. Carson Wentz comes

1943
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 1: in with a completion percentage of less than sixty percent

1944
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 1: in back to back games, after doing that only once

1945
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 1: in his previous twelve Eagles Packers eight twenty tonight at

1946
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 1: lambeau Field. Melvin Gordon expected to show up reporting to

1947
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,799
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers today, ending his sixty four day holdout.

1948
01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 1: He is resending rejoining his teammates, but he does say

1949
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 1: he expects twenty nineteen to be his final year. Sae

1950
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:06,639
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley Giants running back is not going on injured reserve.

1951
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 1: He will stay on the roster. He's out four to

1952
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:12,720
Speaker 1: eight weeks. Sabers preseason finishes up Saturday when they played Pittsburgh,

1953
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 1: and their regular season starts a week from today in Pittsburgh.

1954
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:17,639
Speaker 1: And there you go. The update from One Bill's Drive,

1955
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Tasker and are one Buffalo Studio

1956
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:24,920
Speaker 1: Tradevious White scheduled to join us. I'm just reading the

1957
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 1: Steve when it came across during the break. It's Sorry

1958
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 1: about the Patriots on NBC Sports Boston, written by Tom Kern,

1959
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 1: who's been a long time observer. There. You know what

1960
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: they're talking about. Antonio Brown and the devastation, the rubble

1961
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:42,639
Speaker 1: he left behind from his eleven days stay. Apparently Tom

1962
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 1: Brady and then Bill Belichick wanted him to stick. Brady

1963
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 1: was trying to help Brown stabilize, and he disagreed with

1964
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:54,680
Speaker 1: the business decision made by Robert Kraft to Jennison Brown. Interesting.

1965
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 1: Tom Kurn writes this. I was told the practice performance

1966
01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 1: of Brady when Brown was on the field was almost perfect.

1967
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 1: There were more than half a dozen plays Brown made

1968
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:09,759
Speaker 1: that were breathtaking. He was beyond anything Brady ever worked with. Interesting.

1969
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:12,719
Speaker 1: That just a rift there, right, And I'm not talking

1970
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 1: about anything related to the Sunday's game, but in Patriots Land,

1971
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 1: apparently Belichick and Brady were both against the owner's decision

1972
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 1: to let him go. Interesting, isn't it? Yeah? I don't

1973
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 1: think it's a question it came from. I don't know.

1974
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 1: Maybe there is a question. It sounds like it came

1975
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:29,759
Speaker 1: down from the top of the organization, and the football

1976
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 1: end of it didn't like it all that much. I

1977
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,520
Speaker 1: don't know that this happens a lot with the Patriots,

1978
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 1: but given what was going on with Antonio Brown, and

1979
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:42,680
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it looked like it might go

1980
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 1: from bad to worse with Antonio Brown. One allegation came out,

1981
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 1: then another one came out, and maybe they said, will

1982
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,439
Speaker 1: hold on a minute, and they put a stop to it.

1983
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 1: Maybe they got win that there was a third one

1984
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 1: coming that was gonna come out, or maybe not. I

1985
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 1: don't know, but it was going It was getting worse

1986
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:04,720
Speaker 1: and worse for Antonio Brown. You know, the certainly being

1987
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 1: on the team with the Patriots was keeping him busy,

1988
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 1: but it was not getting better for the team. He

1989
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 1: was a huge contributor in their win in Miami, and

1990
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:20,679
Speaker 1: you know he was off and running. Now that that's

1991
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 1: notoriously Patriots. They get a guy and they acclimate him

1992
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 1: right away. They did it with Josh Gordon last year,

1993
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:28,720
Speaker 1: after he'd been out for a long time, they came in,

1994
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:30,799
Speaker 1: he gave him like five targets in a game against

1995
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:34,640
Speaker 1: against oddly enough, the Miami Dolphins in New England that

1996
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 1: they could they have the ability to do that, And

1997
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 1: so I think the football side of it was pretty

1998
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 1: happy with how it was going. Obviously, the stuff off

1999
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 1: the field got too much for them to stomach, at

2000
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 1: least at the highest level ot of organization, and he

2001
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:52,280
Speaker 1: was gone. Tom kurrns, it doesn't seem like they liked it. Yeah,

2002
01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 1: the departure of Antonio Brown. And you think back in

2003
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 1: Tom Kurrn rights this out. You saw the interview postgame

2004
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 1: Danny Jacobson CBS asking Belichick about Antonio Brown, and it

2005
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 1: was the first chance they had anyone had to talk

2006
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 1: to him about it. And he said, was that the

2007
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 1: last straw? And Belichick just glared at her. Right, remember

2008
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 1: that you saw that video. The indication is that the

2009
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 1: real answer is that Robert Craft is the boss and

2010
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 1: the heat got too hot. But he can't say that, right,

2011
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 1: Belichick can't say that, so he gave her an icy stare.

2012
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 1: Now Tom Curran goes on to say, I'll read this,

2013
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 1: I'll quote him. He says, he writes this in NBC

2014
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:29,640
Speaker 1: Sports Boston. I'm not seeing I'm not seeing an insurrection

2015
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:32,640
Speaker 1: against Craft in the offing. Brady is basically in the

2016
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 1: mode of don't ask me, I just work here. But

2017
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 1: it is different football consideration versus you know, real team

2018
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 1: perception considerations with Antonio Brown. You know how much different

2019
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 1: our conversation would be this week of Antonio Brown, where

2020
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 1: they're getting ready for his third game with the Patriots.

2021
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,600
Speaker 1: It would be different, would would Yeah, the guys, the

2022
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 1: guys are a truly great player, no question. You can't

2023
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 1: you can't even you can't even entertain the notion that

2024
01:39:57,400 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 1: he's not a great player. Certain the other parts of

2025
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 1: his persona leave a much to be desired, or at

2026
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 1: least at the perception that we have as outsiders, I

2027
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,639
Speaker 1: think that guy's not a great guy. I mean, we've

2028
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 1: been following that bouncing ball for eight months now, right,

2029
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 1: and it was not pretty. That was a ball that

2030
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:21,720
Speaker 1: was bouncing and it had corners. Yeah it was, yeah,

2031
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 1: it was. It was bouncing funky because it had bumps

2032
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:29,760
Speaker 1: on it. Right, So yeah, so they had it, I

2033
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 1: mean at the top of it. And let's face it,

2034
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:34,840
Speaker 1: if you're Robert Kraft, how much faith you got in

2035
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. He just won a world

2036
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 1: championship without Antonio Brown. We don't need this. I'm I'll

2037
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:43,240
Speaker 1: live with you guys the way you are. If you

2038
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:44,800
Speaker 1: don't go to and win the super Bowl this year,

2039
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:46,720
Speaker 1: you know what, I think we're gonna be. Okay, I'm

2040
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:48,880
Speaker 1: kicking this guy out. You can say what you want

2041
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 1: about how much he's helping us, but you guys have

2042
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:54,280
Speaker 1: done it without him for twenty years. I'm pretty sure

2043
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:57,800
Speaker 1: we can do it alone. We didn't plan on having him.

2044
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:00,599
Speaker 1: He wasn't in our plans. He was with as I mean,

2045
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 1: for goodness sakes, we can go without this guy. We're not,

2046
01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:06,639
Speaker 1: even though he's a good player. We don't need this headache.

2047
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:08,800
Speaker 1: So that's, you know, for if you're Robert Kraft, I'm

2048
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:14,120
Speaker 1: very easily seeing him take that mental path ian, can't you? Yeah? Yeah,

2049
01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 1: And I think back to what Kyle was it Kyle Brant, Yeah,

2050
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:20,080
Speaker 1: on our show, talked about, you know, the Mexican restaurant thing.

2051
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 1: If they got table sideguwak, you get table sideguak. If

2052
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is available, you get Antonio Brown. You don't

2053
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 1: ask questions whether you need it or not. I think

2054
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:30,200
Speaker 1: that might have been what the football people were thinking,

2055
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:33,240
Speaker 1: and Democrafts thought something else. I'm with this. I mean

2056
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:37,599
Speaker 1: some you know, there's some word too that Bill Belichick

2057
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:41,200
Speaker 1: didn't consult anybody before he signed Brown. You know, he's

2058
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 1: a de facto general manager and he told him to

2059
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 1: sign him and he just did it. Yeah. I don't

2060
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:48,599
Speaker 1: know how often that happens. Maybe it happens a lot.

2061
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm sure Robert Kraft's not sitting in

2062
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 1: a little cubicle at one Patriot Place waiting for word

2063
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:55,639
Speaker 1: of this to get it. You know, he's got a life,

2064
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 1: so I don't know how. There's no way to know

2065
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 1: how that worked out, but it is reported here. It's

2066
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 1: written Belichick didn't consult anybody before a b signing. That's wow,

2067
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:11,360
Speaker 1: you know. I mean he can do that, obviously, can

2068
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:15,719
Speaker 1: do obvious. Yeah, and they let it fly for a while.

2069
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, So take your call on this topic, Bob,

2070
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 1: and Penfield has some thoughts on this. Bob, go ahead,

2071
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 1: you're on the air with this, Hi, guys, thanks for

2072
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:26,960
Speaker 1: taking my call. Sure. My take on why Robert Craft

2073
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 1: got rid of ab is he's in trouble himself with

2074
01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:33,960
Speaker 1: the league over his sexual indiscretions. And one thing that

2075
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:36,880
Speaker 1: really randles me is I think if it was any

2076
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:41,560
Speaker 1: other team, any other owner, there would be swift justice.

2077
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 1: And I think the whole thing got covered up. And

2078
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:49,799
Speaker 1: I'm really disappointed that Commissioner didn't step in and do something.

2079
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:54,160
Speaker 1: You mean about Robert Kraft. Yeah, his sexual thing, the

2080
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:57,880
Speaker 1: massage Parler thing, strike two for the Patriots. If ab

2081
01:42:58,120 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 1: was still there and gotten more trouble, you know, I

2082
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 1: think Crafts should be in trouble himself. Yeah, I mean,

2083
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 1: there was there is that investigation about the massage Partler

2084
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 1: went on. There were other issues involved, right, There were

2085
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 1: allegations that it was kind of a trumped up charge

2086
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 1: that I mean, they first talked about human trafficking. That

2087
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 1: didn't appear to be the case. It's bad, what's it? Right?

2088
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to see those tapes, I mean, right, listen,

2089
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 1: I get it. Um, there's a lot of ways to

2090
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 1: look at it. That every case is different, no question

2091
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 1: about it. Uh. And the relationship between Roger Goodell and

2092
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:45,559
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft, who knows has been rocky all the way

2093
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:50,680
Speaker 1: back to deflate gate. Um. I don't know all of that,

2094
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 1: but I know this. There's a guy in Carolina who

2095
01:43:54,040 --> 01:44:00,720
Speaker 1: was only accused of internal office uh, sexual misconduct, he

2096
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:05,240
Speaker 1: had to sell his team. That's a big that's a

2097
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 1: big move when you transpose that over what happened with

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Speaker 1: Robert Kraft and you know, and how he's being handled.

2099
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:15,760
Speaker 1: Jerry Richardson of the Carolina Panthers was forced to sell

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01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. That's when you put it in that context,

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01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:22,240
Speaker 1: maybe it does seem like a double standard. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Stephen Michigan. Hello, see, welcome to the show. Heay, guys,

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01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. I love listening every day.

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Speaker 1: Question is this Dable of course, as in New England history,

2105
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 1: And I mean I believe, and he hadn't saw article yesterday,

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01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 1: and let's give his Bleacher report stating something to the

2107
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:46,679
Speaker 1: effect that this goals team is designed from the ground

2108
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:50,479
Speaker 1: up to beat the Patriots or compete with the Patriots. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering, especially this early in the season, if Dable

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01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 1: has stuff that he has not shown at all yet

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01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 1: just for this purpose, and what he might try to

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01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:08,680
Speaker 1: pull off that New England hasn't seen, and what might

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01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 1: some of those things be. I don't know, if you guys,

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01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:12,560
Speaker 1: I got ideas. But I would say this, if he

2115
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 1: had secret stuff, should have shown some of it last

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01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:19,599
Speaker 1: year against do England. And I think your contention is interesting.

2117
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:22,120
Speaker 1: I think it can be a little bit overplayed. But look,

2118
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:26,439
Speaker 1: I think the Bills with Josh Allen have the ability

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01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 1: to hit deep passes and they had the one big

2120
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 1: one to John Brown a week one, and other than that,

2121
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 1: it has been a whole lot a couple of attempts

2122
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 1: to go deep. But I think that's something they can

2123
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 1: show us, and I think that's something that will make

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01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 1: a difference. And as I said, you'd like to get

2125
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:42,040
Speaker 1: beyond this. We don't give up defensive touchdowns or we

2126
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:44,280
Speaker 1: don't give up touchdowns to the other offense. You'd like

2127
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 1: to put that to bed in the first quarter as

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01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 1: early as you can. I expect to see some deep

2129
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:51,479
Speaker 1: passing from the Buffalo offense in this game. Steve anything

2130
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:53,760
Speaker 1: from you, You're going to see some things that are

2131
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 1: different and unique to this game. That's what a game

2132
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:58,920
Speaker 1: plan is. The Patriots are not the same defense as

2133
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 1: the Bengals. They're not the same defense as the Jets.

2134
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 1: They're not the same defense as the Giants. They're completely different,

2135
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:08,120
Speaker 1: and that's the kind you're going to see a completely

2136
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:10,720
Speaker 1: different way of attacking that defense than you would those

2137
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 1: other three teams. That's really all the only thing you

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01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:18,600
Speaker 1: have to look at. Certainly, if there's some tactic or

2139
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:21,560
Speaker 1: something they haven't used yet that they may unfurl in

2140
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:25,479
Speaker 1: this game that you know that they were whatever saving

2141
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 1: for this game, or maybe haven't had a need for

2142
01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:31,080
Speaker 1: until this game, or maybe hasn't been ready until this game. Yeah,

2143
01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 1: you might see something like that, But I don't think

2144
01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:37,720
Speaker 1: there is. There is no elixir for beating the New

2145
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:41,320
Speaker 1: England Patriots. You got to outplay them. You got to

2146
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:45,599
Speaker 1: do it with good players, playing disciplined football, mistake free,

2147
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 1: and you can beat them. And this year, as opposed

2148
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 1: to last year, you've probably got some guys who outweigh

2149
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:56,280
Speaker 1: them on the offensive side of your offense that you

2150
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 1: didn't have last year that can certainly give more problems

2151
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:01,640
Speaker 1: to the Patriot defense than they were able to a

2152
01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:04,760
Speaker 1: year ago. That's the difference for Brian Dable. If he

2153
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:06,960
Speaker 1: didn't show anything last year's because he didn't have the

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01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:09,800
Speaker 1: guys to do it, not because he didn't have it

2155
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 1: in his arsenal. Let's go to a call from Dave

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01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:15,120
Speaker 1: in Florida. Hello Dave, welcome to the show. Hey I

2157
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 1: do good good Listen. I'm talking about the beating U.

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01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 1: The matchups you're talking about, Yes, okay, I think it's

2159
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:29,960
Speaker 1: self completed late, the self inflicted us. The Bills put

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01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:34,680
Speaker 1: on themselves with the interceptions of fumbles, stupid penalties. The

2161
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 1: second thing is punning. We need to put that. You

2162
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 1: need to keep the check. New England's very good at

2163
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 1: recovering and intercepting and tip balls. I understand that we

2164
01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 1: stop that, play our game and we will beat this

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Speaker 1: team into the ground. That's what I got to say. Okay,

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01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 1: lovely day, Thank you, Dave. People are getting formed up,

2167
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 1: yeah they are. You can start to feel they're starting

2168
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 1: to get their game faces on it. Sooner or later,

2169
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:05,000
Speaker 1: this game's gonna happen, and people are kind of waiting.

2170
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:07,720
Speaker 1: You just can't wait for it. You can start feeling. Yeah.

2171
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:10,840
Speaker 1: I had a couple of guys calling that started like

2172
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 1: they were to pregame speech, right, try to talk themselves

2173
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:15,880
Speaker 1: into this game. I get it. He's right. The penalty

2174
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 1: you can't interceptions, fumbles and penalties are given. You gotta

2175
01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:24,320
Speaker 1: cut those out. You cannot turn the football over against

2176
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:27,840
Speaker 1: this team. They're too good. They're able to take advantages

2177
01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:31,320
Speaker 1: so much. He even said the punting. Yeah, As of now,

2178
01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:33,840
Speaker 1: the net punting for the Buffalo Bills is around thirty

2179
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:37,840
Speaker 1: three thirty three yards per punt. Their opponents are punting

2180
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:41,839
Speaker 1: at about forty two yards net per punt. That's almost

2181
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:44,040
Speaker 1: a first down every time you change punt. That's a

2182
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:46,680
Speaker 1: first down that you're given away with your punting. So

2183
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:50,439
Speaker 1: you've now last week there was an enormous factor because

2184
01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:52,519
Speaker 1: the Bills punted a couple of times into the wind

2185
01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:57,000
Speaker 1: and if Bark has you know, if he it almost

2186
01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:58,800
Speaker 1: have to try and punt it out of the end zone.

2187
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:00,840
Speaker 1: That's hard to do. It's hard to get yourself to do.

2188
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:02,720
Speaker 1: And he punted one the way he should have punted it,

2189
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:04,880
Speaker 1: and it ended up being at the eighteen yard line

2190
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 1: instead of the eight yard line or the five yard line.

2191
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:09,600
Speaker 1: So it's hard to do that. The window was a

2192
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,599
Speaker 1: factor last week. But they gotta get more production out

2193
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:15,160
Speaker 1: of them. They gotta that's something that where you can

2194
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:17,920
Speaker 1: get better at immediately. Then we'll see if they can

2195
01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:20,599
Speaker 1: do it. Take another call here and uh, let's go

2196
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:23,760
Speaker 1: to Jay in Buffalo. Hello, Jay, you're on the air

2197
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:29,720
Speaker 1: of this. Yeah, I'm rophied, Steve. Hey, Jay, I went

2198
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:35,559
Speaker 1: through the nineteen seventies where the Bills were owned twenty

2199
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 1: against Miami Dolphins, yep, and they moved around town. Everybody

2200
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 1: was obsessed Dolphins. It seems so similar to the Patriots.

2201
01:49:46,160 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 1: And you talk about Bill Belichick, I mean Don Schuell

2202
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:54,360
Speaker 1: in those days, you say, hate to see pictures as

2203
01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:58,559
Speaker 1: a gay yep. But but anyways, when when the Bills

2204
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 1: won their season opener in nineteen eighty, it seemed like

2205
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:07,280
Speaker 1: all they had talked and was in the past about

2206
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:11,040
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. They made the playoffs that year, and I

2207
01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:15,240
Speaker 1: just see a lot of similarities with the Patriots. Said,

2208
01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:18,599
Speaker 1: you know, come on, let's beat this team and then

2209
01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:22,200
Speaker 1: we'll stop talking about whether we can or can't beat

2210
01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:25,559
Speaker 1: the team. And you know, they led on to the

2211
01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:28,679
Speaker 1: Super Bowl teams in the eighties. But you know, Jay,

2212
01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:32,559
Speaker 1: the only thing I would say about that is the

2213
01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:34,760
Speaker 1: Bills aren't the only team getting beaten up by the

2214
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 1: Patriots every year. They dominate the division. So it's not

2215
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 1: in the Miami Buffalo thing in the seventies and I

2216
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:42,240
Speaker 1: was around for that. I remember that that was a

2217
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:45,800
Speaker 1: one team thing, right, Bills couldn't beat that team. I

2218
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:48,559
Speaker 1: don't think these players, these Bills players in this locker room,

2219
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:51,360
Speaker 1: have that sort of feeling about the Patriots. They want

2220
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:53,479
Speaker 1: to beat them badly. They know how good they are,

2221
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:55,560
Speaker 1: they know the history. But as I've said maybe a

2222
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 1: hundred times now this week on the show, I don't

2223
01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:00,320
Speaker 1: think that history matters to these players. I really don't.

2224
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 1: And they're not the only ones getting lumped up by

2225
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:05,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots on a regular bat. Patrits are doing it

2226
01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:08,360
Speaker 1: to the entire NFL. Yeah, I mean they're they're deep

2227
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 1: in the playoffs every single year. So good season, what's that?

2228
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:16,599
Speaker 1: I said? The Dolphins? He had that undefeated season where

2229
01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 1: they won the Super Bowl? Yeah, one year? Yeah, I mean,

2230
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:22,680
Speaker 1: you know, because they even hear Thurman talked about it

2231
01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 1: every once in a while. Like the importance of the

2232
01:51:25,320 --> 01:51:30,040
Speaker 1: Miami games. I don't think you know, the the present

2233
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:35,040
Speaker 1: day fans, you know, understand how important it was when

2234
01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:39,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo played in Miami. But again, you know, I just

2235
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:42,000
Speaker 1: think it would be such a great and rail booster

2236
01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:45,760
Speaker 1: to beat this team. Yeah, I think, and I get it, Jay,

2237
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:48,000
Speaker 1: There is a kind of a parallel there where the

2238
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:50,960
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins lumped up the Buffalo Bills for ten years

2239
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 1: they were over the seventies, and then finally in the

2240
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:56,400
Speaker 1: opening day of nineteen eighty they beat that team. And

2241
01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:58,800
Speaker 1: it was a long time though before they got to

2242
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:02,559
Speaker 1: the nineteen late eighties and early nineties where they were,

2243
01:52:02,640 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 1: you know, beating a lot of teams consistently, including the Dolphins.

2244
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:09,880
Speaker 1: But and I see the parallel. You finally kind of

2245
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:12,240
Speaker 1: get to a place where listen, it's it's time. Now

2246
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:15,519
Speaker 1: we're tired of you know, this stretch. We've got a

2247
01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:18,479
Speaker 1: good enough team. You're talking fans here, Yeah, fans, You've

2248
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 1: got a good enough team. Let's do it. And I

2249
01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:23,040
Speaker 1: think for the fans, that's why this game, you know,

2250
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:26,639
Speaker 1: has so much angst and involved in it is because

2251
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:29,000
Speaker 1: of the history. They just have seen this not happen

2252
01:52:29,080 --> 01:52:33,160
Speaker 1: so many times. But this is a new season. This

2253
01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 1: is a different team. That's a different Patriot team, a

2254
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 1: different Bills team, And I'm optimistic, like everybody else is here. Um,

2255
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:43,639
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fun game to watch, a fun

2256
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:47,559
Speaker 1: game to watch. Joe on the line from Dunkirk, Hello, Joe, Hi, guys,

2257
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:51,680
Speaker 1: I got a question to ask you about our offense. Now,

2258
01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:53,240
Speaker 1: I know, I want to presence this by saying, I

2259
01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:54,840
Speaker 1: know we hit the big past the Knox on the

2260
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:56,960
Speaker 1: left side of the field, But is it just me?

2261
01:52:57,120 --> 01:53:01,519
Speaker 1: Or seems like of our offense, our passing plays goes

2262
01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:04,400
Speaker 1: the right side of the field. Am I prest in

2263
01:53:04,479 --> 01:53:06,800
Speaker 1: saying that, I don't know. I don't know, and you

2264
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 1: can find out that, you know what, if you went

2265
01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:11,599
Speaker 1: back and looked at it and all that. I'll take

2266
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:13,759
Speaker 1: your word for it. But it didn't. It didn't strike

2267
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:16,880
Speaker 1: me as that. No, you know, I'm watching the games.

2268
01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:19,200
Speaker 1: It just seems like everything is down the right side.

2269
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:21,080
Speaker 1: I wants to work in Beasley over the middle, but

2270
01:53:21,160 --> 01:53:24,439
Speaker 1: it seems like everything's right side dominated. And I don't know.

2271
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:26,080
Speaker 1: I call I remember. I mean, I can remember a

2272
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:28,759
Speaker 1: couple of plays off to the left side. Brown winning

2273
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:31,320
Speaker 1: touchdown against the Jets left. He had a deep comeback

2274
01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:34,280
Speaker 1: against the the Bengals down the left side. The Dawson

2275
01:53:34,360 --> 01:53:37,040
Speaker 1: Knox play that you mentioned was down the left side.

2276
01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:40,840
Speaker 1: Uh but yeah, I mean, you know, Josh the right

2277
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 1: handed quarterback. Maybe there's something to that. I don't know,

2278
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:46,800
Speaker 1: but I didn't bother me, Uh, Joe, I don't think

2279
01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:50,519
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think they're that heavy heavily right handed.

2280
01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:53,519
Speaker 1: I haven't noticed. Maybe I don't know. Hey, um, I

2281
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:56,080
Speaker 1: hope to hear from Trudavious White soon. We're gonna stand

2282
01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:59,040
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Speaker 1: big rebrand recently from units to connect Life. So what

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01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:09,680
Speaker 1: was the reason for rebranding? Connect Life has become such

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Speaker 1: a big organization again, we do organized tissue and blood.

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Speaker 1: We work with all the whole hospitals locally, we work

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Speaker 1: with the community. So we really wanted a new name

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Speaker 1: that made more sense and that the community could connect with.

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Speaker 1: Hence Connect Life. We you know, we connect families, we

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Speaker 1: connect neighbors, we connect the community, and we wanted something

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Speaker 1: that was really representative of that. We are here in

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Speaker 1: the community every day and we wanted something that people

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Speaker 1: immediately understood when they heard the name. You talk about

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Speaker 1: connecting the community, connecting Western New York. What is the

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01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:43,440
Speaker 1: importance of being a donor? Being a blood donor is

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01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:46,600
Speaker 1: especially important through Connect Life because we are the only

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01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:49,600
Speaker 1: local community blood bank, so the blood that we collect

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01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:53,160
Speaker 1: stays local for our local patients in need. Amanda donating today,

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Speaker 1: her blood could go to someone at Oshi Children's Hospital.

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Speaker 1: Your blood can go to someone needed ECMC who's just

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Speaker 1: been in a trauma. So it's really because you're saving

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01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 1: local lives. On the organ and titue donation side of things,

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01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:07,360
Speaker 1: it's really important to have a conversation about becoming a donor.

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01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:09,720
Speaker 1: Take the few minutes to enroll as a donor, because

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Speaker 1: there are so many people in need of a transplant

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Speaker 1: right now. There's over one hundred and fourteen thousand people

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Speaker 1: waiting across the country. We have over ten thousand waiting

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Speaker 1: in New York State and about a thousand waiting locally

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01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:21,600
Speaker 1: right here in Western New York. So just by having

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01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:24,040
Speaker 1: that conversation, taking some time to check off the box

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01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:26,560
Speaker 1: that you're interested in becoming a donor at your time

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Speaker 1: of death is a huge step and you can potentially

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Speaker 1: save up to seventy five lives. And if people aren't

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Speaker 1: interested in being a donor, where should they go to?

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Speaker 1: We have tons of information on our website connect life

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Speaker 1: dot org, so you can learn more about how to

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Speaker 1: become a blood donor, how to register on the Donate Life,

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Speaker 1: the New York State Donate Life Registry, and also just

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01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 1: any sort of frequently ask questions you might have about

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01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:50,800
Speaker 1: the process Connect Life. They're the game week sponsor for

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Speaker 1: the Patriots game Sarah, appreciate your time, Go Bills. Okay, thanks, Hey,

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Speaker 1: comes close twenty one second slapt builds up by for

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Speaker 1: the SNAM don't gonna throw it fires, it is tipped,

2346
01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:24,440
Speaker 1: It is intercepted, intercepted at the ten yard line by

2347
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:28,320
Speaker 1: the Bill, intercepted by Trenevius White, and that should do it.

2348
01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:33,080
Speaker 1: Trade comes up with a huge interception, Tredevious White with

2349
01:57:33,240 --> 01:57:36,120
Speaker 1: the pick, the game clinching interception last Sunday against the

2350
01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:40,080
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. Tredevious White joins us in studio. Right now,

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01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:41,720
Speaker 1: I screwed up? That calls that what you're saying, it

2352
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:46,040
Speaker 1: wasn't it was tipped? Yeah, okay by Mike. Yeah okay,

2353
01:57:46,280 --> 01:57:48,920
Speaker 1: I thought it was tipped. Yeah, I take I gotta

2354
01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:51,480
Speaker 1: take it each anyway, I can guess. Right, that's right.

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01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:53,800
Speaker 1: They don't count man, Yeah for sure. And that one

2356
01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:56,160
Speaker 1: really counted because of where when it happened. Right, what

2357
01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 1: were you thinking on that play? What were you looking

2358
01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:00,880
Speaker 1: for going into that play. I mean they lined up

2359
01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:04,480
Speaker 1: with a big receiver to the He had a tight

2360
01:58:04,520 --> 01:58:07,640
Speaker 1: split and I knew I had Michael inside had help,

2361
01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 1: so I had to hold my outside leverage and he ran.

2362
01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:12,880
Speaker 1: He ran sort of a bang or in cut route,

2363
01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 1: and Michael was there to tip the ball and it

2364
01:58:15,560 --> 01:58:18,040
Speaker 1: fell into my hand. So he Michael was just doing

2365
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:20,880
Speaker 1: his job and I was just just trying to run

2366
01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:24,120
Speaker 1: to the ball. You reacted, and the Bengals reacted. You

2367
01:58:24,160 --> 01:58:26,680
Speaker 1: got up and kind of ran towards the tunnel right

2368
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:28,960
Speaker 1: or no, towards the side lane, and the Bengals thought,

2369
01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:31,480
Speaker 1: what that you would retreated into the end zone for

2370
01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:34,240
Speaker 1: two points is that they were thinking. I didn't know

2371
01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:38,040
Speaker 1: about that until I got into the facility Monday when

2372
01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:40,760
Speaker 1: it was a big thing. But I gave myself up.

2373
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:43,760
Speaker 1: I thought so in the referee blew to play dead,

2374
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:46,680
Speaker 1: so I don't think ye coming even on the highlight

2375
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:48,120
Speaker 1: we're looking at he comes in from the end of

2376
01:58:48,160 --> 01:58:50,440
Speaker 1: the end zone and he's blown the swhistle waving his head.

2377
01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:53,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that play was long over before you

2378
01:58:53,680 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 1: got to the end zone and all of that. So

2379
01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:57,680
Speaker 1: and that and when your other teammates come in and

2380
01:58:57,720 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 1: put their hands on you. That kind of signals that

2381
01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:05,560
Speaker 1: it's old, right. Yeah, Tremaine was there, and Boy was there. Yeah,

2382
01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:07,680
Speaker 1: they were all there, so so yeah, they tagged me down.

2383
01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:11,400
Speaker 1: Then he went over post for a picture. Nice. Yeah,

2384
01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:13,200
Speaker 1: after the game, you had a chance to talk with

2385
01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:16,080
Speaker 1: Dean Sanders. Right, let's take a look at and listen

2386
01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 1: at that Dean Sanders and trod Avius on the Fox

2387
01:59:19,160 --> 01:59:22,120
Speaker 1: post game show after his game clinching interception. Here it is,

2388
01:59:23,560 --> 01:59:26,080
Speaker 1: if you're doing it with me next week, you definitely

2389
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:28,520
Speaker 1: go out there have two peaks. Hey, you know what,

2390
01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:31,880
Speaker 1: if I tune in, you gotta come to a Buffalo game.

2391
01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:35,240
Speaker 1: How about that? You know what, if you're doing it

2392
01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:37,840
Speaker 1: next week, I will come to a Buffalo game. All right,

2393
01:59:37,840 --> 01:59:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold you to that right there. Okay, do

2394
01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:43,120
Speaker 1: you know him at all? Yeah? I met him a

2395
01:59:43,120 --> 01:59:46,040
Speaker 1: few times. Yeah, yeah, guy, for sure. What are you

2396
01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:47,360
Speaker 1: gonna get him up here? What do you have to do?

2397
01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:50,640
Speaker 1: You have to he's you know, most importantly, we gotta win. Yeah,

2398
01:59:50,720 --> 01:59:52,320
Speaker 1: we win. I get him up here. I try to

2399
01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:53,880
Speaker 1: get him, give him a hard time to get him

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01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:56,440
Speaker 1: up here for soon. Yeah, that was that game last

2401
01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:58,920
Speaker 1: week when you know the Bills gave the lead back.

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01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:03,000
Speaker 1: Uh they had you know, short field interception. Yeah, and

2403
02:00:03,040 --> 02:00:06,360
Speaker 1: it looked you know, what's what's the vibe like on

2404
02:00:06,400 --> 02:00:09,440
Speaker 1: your side of the ball when you know you got

2405
02:00:09,440 --> 02:00:12,240
Speaker 1: a narrow lead or maybe you're a deficit narrow lead.

2406
02:00:12,280 --> 02:00:13,760
Speaker 1: The games online, you know, you got to get the

2407
02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:15,840
Speaker 1: ball back or something like that, and they're driving to

2408
02:00:15,920 --> 02:00:18,120
Speaker 1: either tie it up like it wasn't the Cincinnati game

2409
02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:20,160
Speaker 1: and it's like it's been for all three games where

2410
02:00:20,200 --> 02:00:21,680
Speaker 1: it's been in doubt for a minute. I mean, like

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02:00:21,720 --> 02:00:24,720
Speaker 1: you said, we've been in those situations before and we

2412
02:00:25,080 --> 02:00:27,200
Speaker 1: know what to expect and we pretty much know how

2413
02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:29,960
Speaker 1: to execute no situations. Coach Bandmot does a great job,

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02:00:30,160 --> 02:00:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, throughout the week of putting us in tough

2415
02:00:32,120 --> 02:00:36,160
Speaker 1: situations before practicing. But when we practice too many, too

2416
02:00:36,200 --> 02:00:38,520
Speaker 1: many defense and stuff like that. So that's something that

2417
02:00:38,520 --> 02:00:40,400
Speaker 1: we practice each and every day. So once we get

2418
02:00:40,440 --> 02:00:42,400
Speaker 1: into the game, we don't have the panic. We don't

2419
02:00:42,400 --> 02:00:44,360
Speaker 1: have no panic. We have the poise. We had the

2420
02:00:44,440 --> 02:00:46,600
Speaker 1: ultimate poise, and we know how to execute in the

2421
02:00:46,600 --> 02:00:49,240
Speaker 1: big time moments. Right, you have played what four games

2422
02:00:49,240 --> 02:00:51,880
Speaker 1: against the Patriots, right, and tom Brady in your career.

2423
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:54,080
Speaker 1: What can you tell us about tom Brady? What's it

2424
02:00:54,120 --> 02:00:56,560
Speaker 1: like to go up against him? I mean, he pretty

2425
02:00:56,640 --> 02:01:00,880
Speaker 1: much knows every defense he's he's seen it all. Any

2426
02:01:00,920 --> 02:01:04,040
Speaker 1: exotic pressures you try to bring to him, He've seen everything.

2427
02:01:04,120 --> 02:01:07,280
Speaker 1: So you gotta sort of, you know, just cover the guys,

2428
02:01:07,320 --> 02:01:09,800
Speaker 1: try to get some pressure on him, and just you

2429
02:01:09,880 --> 02:01:12,200
Speaker 1: gotta have a little luck too, so you know, to

2430
02:01:12,200 --> 02:01:14,360
Speaker 1: to beat that team, you know, we know where to expect.

2431
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:16,560
Speaker 1: Those guys gonna come in. They're gonna play fundamental football,

2432
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:18,280
Speaker 1: They're gonna take care of the football. They're they're not

2433
02:01:18,360 --> 02:01:21,200
Speaker 1: gonna beat themselves. So we just got to play a

2434
02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:25,160
Speaker 1: perfect game and all three three phases of of the

2435
02:01:25,240 --> 02:01:27,760
Speaker 1: team offense, defense, and special teams, and we get those

2436
02:01:27,800 --> 02:01:31,760
Speaker 1: things clicking on all three, all three clicking on Sunday.

2437
02:01:31,800 --> 02:01:34,040
Speaker 1: I feel like we'll be fine. Yeah, this game has

2438
02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:36,080
Speaker 1: all and you never have how You can't predict how

2439
02:01:36,080 --> 02:01:38,480
Speaker 1: these games are gonna go because all that crazy stuff happens.

2440
02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:42,320
Speaker 1: But this game looks like with your defense and their defense,

2441
02:01:42,640 --> 02:01:44,680
Speaker 1: like it's you know, it's gonna be tight all the

2442
02:01:44,680 --> 02:01:47,960
Speaker 1: way through it. Is there some kind of message or

2443
02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:51,240
Speaker 1: words or conversations you guys have throughout the week, both

2444
02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:53,000
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, about hey, you know

2445
02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:54,680
Speaker 1: to stay in this for four quarters, this is gonna

2446
02:01:54,680 --> 02:01:57,040
Speaker 1: be a tight game, that kind of thing. Yeah, uh

2447
02:01:57,080 --> 02:02:00,200
Speaker 1: we we we got a good analygua screw and they

2448
02:02:00,200 --> 02:02:03,280
Speaker 1: do a great job. I mean, like seventies six percent

2449
02:02:03,320 --> 02:02:05,600
Speaker 1: of all NFL games come down to the last vibe

2450
02:02:05,600 --> 02:02:07,720
Speaker 1: if you know where to not, so you know each

2451
02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:09,720
Speaker 1: and that we go into it with that mindset. It's

2452
02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:12,480
Speaker 1: gonna come down to the fourth quarter. It's gonna always

2453
02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:14,920
Speaker 1: be Yeah, it's always gonna be a war score game.

2454
02:02:15,000 --> 02:02:17,960
Speaker 1: So it's very seldom where teams are just blowing teams

2455
02:02:17,960 --> 02:02:19,760
Speaker 1: out each and every week. I mean, this is the NFL.

2456
02:02:19,800 --> 02:02:21,760
Speaker 1: So it's gonna come down to the last quarter, gonna

2457
02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:23,960
Speaker 1: come down to a last possession or something like that,

2458
02:02:24,040 --> 02:02:26,800
Speaker 1: and uh, the players gonna have to make the plays

2459
02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:28,920
Speaker 1: and we're just gonna have to try to execute those

2460
02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:33,000
Speaker 1: key moments. Clearly, the builds respect the Patriots, but where

2461
02:02:33,040 --> 02:02:35,320
Speaker 1: do you draw the line? Is there a danger of

2462
02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:37,800
Speaker 1: respecting them so much that you maybe not confident going

2463
02:02:37,840 --> 02:02:40,760
Speaker 1: into a game like us? Oh no, no, I feel

2464
02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:42,360
Speaker 1: like the guys that we have in all lock themen,

2465
02:02:42,360 --> 02:02:44,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna we ultimately, we're gonna be confident because we

2466
02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:47,520
Speaker 1: prepare well, and we watch our family and we do

2467
02:02:47,560 --> 02:02:50,040
Speaker 1: our extra work and we put the work in each

2468
02:02:50,080 --> 02:02:52,000
Speaker 1: and every day, and so when we go into the game,

2469
02:02:52,040 --> 02:02:54,840
Speaker 1: we got one hundred percent confidence in ourselves. But you

2470
02:02:54,880 --> 02:02:57,520
Speaker 1: gotta respect those guys because they've they've been doing it.

2471
02:02:57,560 --> 02:03:00,160
Speaker 1: They the super Bowl champs, and you know that's us

2472
02:03:00,160 --> 02:03:02,800
Speaker 1: where this was. Our ultimate goal is to win the championship.

2473
02:03:02,840 --> 02:03:04,480
Speaker 1: So we're gonna have to go through this team regardless

2474
02:03:04,480 --> 02:03:07,400
Speaker 1: of what. It's almost like your answer is, we're confident

2475
02:03:07,440 --> 02:03:09,680
Speaker 1: in how we prepare. Yeah, and no matter who you're playing,

2476
02:03:09,720 --> 02:03:12,520
Speaker 1: that matter who's on the other team, were confident in

2477
02:03:12,520 --> 02:03:14,040
Speaker 1: the way that we go about our work gets you

2478
02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:15,640
Speaker 1: every day. So you guys, all right, you live and

2479
02:03:15,680 --> 02:03:17,520
Speaker 1: you work in Buffalo, so you know how this fan

2480
02:03:17,560 --> 02:03:19,800
Speaker 1: base is a little bit, right, So this this game

2481
02:03:19,920 --> 02:03:22,360
Speaker 1: has a lot of extra baggage for you know, just

2482
02:03:22,760 --> 02:03:24,560
Speaker 1: us sitting out in the fan in the stand because

2483
02:03:24,880 --> 02:03:27,000
Speaker 1: we hate those guys, right, I mean, everybody hates the

2484
02:03:27,120 --> 02:03:30,800
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. Does that change anything for

2485
02:03:30,880 --> 02:03:33,560
Speaker 1: you guys? No, it can't. It can't. We can't make

2486
02:03:33,680 --> 02:03:35,720
Speaker 1: one game bigger than the other. I mean, because you

2487
02:03:35,800 --> 02:03:38,200
Speaker 1: got sixteen of them. You play this team twice a year,

2488
02:03:38,240 --> 02:03:40,640
Speaker 1: and uh, I mean you can't go into it just

2489
02:03:41,120 --> 02:03:42,800
Speaker 1: just because you're playing the Patriots. You got to try

2490
02:03:42,840 --> 02:03:45,280
Speaker 1: to change what you do and try to become this

2491
02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:48,160
Speaker 1: super team or try to come up with different stuff

2492
02:03:48,200 --> 02:03:50,480
Speaker 1: that we haven't been doing. Going back to OTAs, we

2493
02:03:50,520 --> 02:03:52,520
Speaker 1: just gotta be the Bills and be the best version

2494
02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:55,080
Speaker 1: of ourselves. I've seen that somebody earlier today in the show,

2495
02:03:55,400 --> 02:03:58,440
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon. Maybe not their most productive receiver, but they're

2496
02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:00,520
Speaker 1: most dangerous. Do you think they're wont change was targeting

2497
02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:04,040
Speaker 1: the bast I can't say that because they spread. He

2498
02:04:04,080 --> 02:04:05,640
Speaker 1: does a great job of spreading the ball around. You

2499
02:04:05,680 --> 02:04:08,000
Speaker 1: got Philad door set, he comes in, he makes big plays,

2500
02:04:08,040 --> 02:04:11,880
Speaker 1: and of course Edleman, he's mad. He makes huge plays.

2501
02:04:11,880 --> 02:04:13,920
Speaker 1: And then the backside of the backfield they make big

2502
02:04:13,960 --> 02:04:16,360
Speaker 1: plays too. So and Gordon, you know, what he brings

2503
02:04:16,400 --> 02:04:18,200
Speaker 1: to the table is for as just being a physical

2504
02:04:18,200 --> 02:04:20,360
Speaker 1: step specimen, and how he tracks the ball in the

2505
02:04:20,400 --> 02:04:22,120
Speaker 1: air and how how strong he is at the point

2506
02:04:22,120 --> 02:04:24,400
Speaker 1: of tech. So he does a great job of spreading

2507
02:04:24,400 --> 02:04:26,600
Speaker 1: the ball around, so you know, you can't just key

2508
02:04:26,640 --> 02:04:29,040
Speaker 1: in on one guy. So you got a couple of

2509
02:04:29,120 --> 02:04:31,040
Speaker 1: days off to the sho This week had a little

2510
02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:33,480
Speaker 1: red jersey on feeling good. You feeling all right? Hell yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling good man. Ready, I'm ready to go. Yeah

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Speaker 1: go awesome, man, it's good to here. Yeah. What what

2513
02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:41,040
Speaker 1: was the atmosphere like? And what do you think your

2514
02:04:41,120 --> 02:04:44,480
Speaker 1: rookies found out about the home field atmosphere last Sunday?

2515
02:04:44,920 --> 02:04:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean every pretty much all the rookie It's like, man,

2516
02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:49,720
Speaker 1: this is like a college town, a town where you

2517
02:04:49,880 --> 02:04:52,640
Speaker 1: just have the college team. So I always tell people

2518
02:04:52,680 --> 02:04:54,240
Speaker 1: when I when I go back home, it's just like

2519
02:04:54,360 --> 02:04:57,120
Speaker 1: this the closest thing I ever you ever get to,

2520
02:04:57,480 --> 02:05:00,240
Speaker 1: you know, a college atmosphere. I just always how to

2521
02:05:00,680 --> 02:05:03,320
Speaker 1: assimilate how how death values to be when when I

2522
02:05:03,400 --> 02:05:05,720
Speaker 1: was there, because the crowd is just the same LSU

2523
02:05:05,840 --> 02:05:08,280
Speaker 1: football as although all the people in Baton Rouge have

2524
02:05:08,320 --> 02:05:10,240
Speaker 1: and that's all they care about. So you know, if

2525
02:05:10,240 --> 02:05:12,840
Speaker 1: we win in in bat Rouge, everything's great. We went

2526
02:05:12,920 --> 02:05:15,240
Speaker 1: in the Buffalo, everything it's great. It feels like when

2527
02:05:15,240 --> 02:05:18,280
Speaker 1: we win on Sunday, it don't matter if it's the

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02:05:18,280 --> 02:05:21,400
Speaker 1: middle of December. The sun is gonna come back on Monday.

2529
02:05:21,560 --> 02:05:23,400
Speaker 1: The sun is gonna come out on Monday. For sure.

2530
02:05:23,600 --> 02:05:26,080
Speaker 1: It's herd Major. It could be any louder this Sunday

2531
02:05:26,080 --> 02:05:29,560
Speaker 1: than it was last Sunday, but it be. I'm looking

2532
02:05:29,560 --> 02:05:31,240
Speaker 1: forward to it, and I'm looking forward to it. We

2533
02:05:31,320 --> 02:05:34,120
Speaker 1: got we got a few more days of preparation, but

2534
02:05:34,400 --> 02:05:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to Sunday. It's gonna be a good game.

2535
02:05:36,600 --> 02:05:39,240
Speaker 1: Get any golden the in that she got the Goalie Academy. Yeah,

2536
02:05:39,320 --> 02:05:41,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we're in a preseason right now,

2537
02:05:41,240 --> 02:05:43,400
Speaker 1: so you know starts a week from today. Yeah, so

2538
02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:45,680
Speaker 1: the off season works over man. You gotta get Yeah,

2539
02:05:45,720 --> 02:05:47,720
Speaker 1: we gotta get it. We gotta get suns. Yeah, for sure.

2540
02:05:48,640 --> 02:05:50,640
Speaker 1: Tea's great they have you. Thank you for making time

2541
02:05:50,640 --> 02:05:52,520
Speaker 1: for Suday. We appreciate it. I appreciate you all for

2542
02:05:52,520 --> 02:05:54,960
Speaker 1: having me on White Bill's cornerback joining the Stephen I

2543
02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:57,720
Speaker 1: coming back One Bill's Life Presenterbody collid to health from

2544
02:05:57,760 --> 02:06:19,400
Speaker 1: the Seneca Studio And this is Buffalo Bill's idiom. What

2545
02:06:19,480 --> 02:06:22,040
Speaker 1: have we learned? Brought to you by Skyworks, the official

2546
02:06:22,080 --> 02:06:25,320
Speaker 1: construction equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills. Joe Horgan

2547
02:06:25,440 --> 02:06:27,840
Speaker 1: joined us earlier on the show. Joe is the forty

2548
02:06:27,840 --> 02:06:30,640
Speaker 1: two year veteran of employment at the PROI Hall of Fame,

2549
02:06:30,680 --> 02:06:34,480
Speaker 1: former executive director there. He's written a book, NFL Century.

2550
02:06:34,720 --> 02:06:37,160
Speaker 1: Joe Horgan talks about the decisions how tough it was

2551
02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:39,600
Speaker 1: to make the decisions on what to include in his

2552
02:06:39,680 --> 02:06:43,920
Speaker 1: one hundred year history of the NFL. You know, there

2553
02:06:43,920 --> 02:06:46,480
Speaker 1: are a lot of stories in the history of the

2554
02:06:46,600 --> 02:06:48,640
Speaker 1: NFL that that need to be told because they're so

2555
02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:51,880
Speaker 1: important to the development of the league. And then there

2556
02:06:51,880 --> 02:06:56,040
Speaker 1: are stories that are interesting but maybe not as well

2557
02:06:56,160 --> 02:06:58,840
Speaker 1: covered as they should have been. And then there are

2558
02:06:58,880 --> 02:07:02,880
Speaker 1: those stories that have been covered very thoroughly and didn't

2559
02:07:02,920 --> 02:07:06,680
Speaker 1: need meter to go through them again. So but I

2560
02:07:06,760 --> 02:07:09,280
Speaker 1: kind of made a long list of stories that I

2561
02:07:09,320 --> 02:07:11,520
Speaker 1: wanted to look at and then had to start weeding

2562
02:07:11,520 --> 02:07:14,240
Speaker 1: them down as to which ones kind of fall in

2563
02:07:14,440 --> 02:07:16,840
Speaker 1: each of those criteria. Ones that have to be told,

2564
02:07:17,320 --> 02:07:21,200
Speaker 1: ones that need some clarifications, ones that are maybe interesting

2565
02:07:21,440 --> 02:07:24,480
Speaker 1: in a different way that you know, shed light onto

2566
02:07:24,520 --> 02:07:26,560
Speaker 1: the development of some portion of the league or the

2567
02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:29,360
Speaker 1: game how it's played. And then those that are just

2568
02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:32,680
Speaker 1: playing incorrect and wanted to correct some some historical errors.

2569
02:07:33,120 --> 02:07:35,160
Speaker 1: What's that good buck, Stephen. I are going to race

2570
02:07:35,240 --> 02:07:38,080
Speaker 1: to the finish it right, finish by the end, at

2571
02:07:38,080 --> 02:07:39,640
Speaker 1: the end of the year, I will finish it. Joe

2572
02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:42,480
Speaker 1: Organ happy to have him on the show this weekend.

2573
02:07:42,520 --> 02:07:44,880
Speaker 1: It's almost a coffee book. I mean, I mean a

2574
02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:48,200
Speaker 1: coffee table book is so big. It's it's not little.

2575
02:07:48,240 --> 02:07:51,480
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not a paperback. It's not one

2576
02:07:51,560 --> 02:07:54,360
Speaker 1: hundred hundred years. We gotta Baz, We're gonna have to

2577
02:07:54,360 --> 02:07:56,120
Speaker 1: have a book club on this. Maybe go chapter a

2578
02:07:56,160 --> 02:07:59,400
Speaker 1: week or something. Are three hundred eighteen pages. It's not

2579
02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:03,440
Speaker 1: More in Peace, Yeah, I get you. Yes, not Lemiser

2580
02:08:03,520 --> 02:08:07,959
Speaker 1: Rob but yeah, it's not a it's not an afternoon

2581
02:08:08,000 --> 02:08:11,400
Speaker 1: on the on the back porch either. Talking more about

2582
02:08:11,400 --> 02:08:13,120
Speaker 1: the match up Bills and Patriots, you got time for

2583
02:08:13,160 --> 02:08:16,440
Speaker 1: a couple of calls. Kate on the line from Erie Pa. Hello, Kate,

2584
02:08:16,480 --> 02:08:19,600
Speaker 1: go ahead, Hey, hey guys, I'm an Erepa right now.

2585
02:08:19,640 --> 02:08:23,400
Speaker 1: But Buffalo board and raised. Um. I just wanted to

2586
02:08:23,480 --> 02:08:26,360
Speaker 1: call in and say, you know, what's really got me

2587
02:08:26,400 --> 02:08:30,280
Speaker 1: optimistic about the Bills right now is they're doing what

2588
02:08:30,480 --> 02:08:32,760
Speaker 1: needs to be done when it needs to be done right.

2589
02:08:32,840 --> 02:08:35,760
Speaker 1: So you know, first week is a comeback. Second week

2590
02:08:35,800 --> 02:08:38,840
Speaker 1: it's you know, long fourth quarter drive that puts points

2591
02:08:38,840 --> 02:08:41,400
Speaker 1: on the board, keeps the ball away from the giants.

2592
02:08:41,400 --> 02:08:45,040
Speaker 1: And then you know, this past week, Alan was obviously

2593
02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:48,560
Speaker 1: affected by that really poor turnover. Um had a few

2594
02:08:48,600 --> 02:08:50,400
Speaker 1: bad drives after that where you could tell he was

2595
02:08:50,400 --> 02:08:53,040
Speaker 1: really visibly affected by it. But you know, the fourth

2596
02:08:53,120 --> 02:08:55,000
Speaker 1: quarter came, end of the game came, and he had

2597
02:08:55,040 --> 02:08:57,760
Speaker 1: to put a drive together and score a touchdown, and

2598
02:08:57,800 --> 02:09:00,240
Speaker 1: that's that's exactly what he did. So you know, that's

2599
02:09:00,320 --> 02:09:03,040
Speaker 1: that's the small stuff that I hadn't seen in years past.

2600
02:09:03,080 --> 02:09:04,880
Speaker 1: That's really got me optimistic. And I'd love to hear

2601
02:09:04,840 --> 02:09:07,720
Speaker 1: your guts off. Okay, you're around it. You are absolutely right.

2602
02:09:07,760 --> 02:09:10,800
Speaker 1: And my partner on Sunday, Eric Wood, made that point

2603
02:09:10,840 --> 02:09:13,160
Speaker 1: on Sunday about how they've won in three different ways.

2604
02:09:13,160 --> 02:09:16,160
Speaker 1: We were talking about a Monday. What really, maybe to

2605
02:09:16,240 --> 02:09:18,960
Speaker 1: your point, what most impresses me about the three and

2606
02:09:19,000 --> 02:09:21,960
Speaker 1: oh start is how resourceful this Bills team is. What

2607
02:09:22,520 --> 02:09:25,640
Speaker 1: we're down by sixteen points, come back and win. What

2608
02:09:25,880 --> 02:09:28,440
Speaker 1: we're up by fourteen hour only up by seven, score

2609
02:09:28,440 --> 02:09:31,440
Speaker 1: a fourth quarter touchdown, up by fourteen again, what we

2610
02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:33,200
Speaker 1: give up the lead while we're gonna get we give up.

2611
02:09:33,240 --> 02:09:35,280
Speaker 1: But what did they lead the other day? Fourteen and nothing,

2612
02:09:35,480 --> 02:09:37,800
Speaker 1: gave up a lead down seventeen fourteen, come back and

2613
02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:40,520
Speaker 1: score the go ahead touchdown. They find a way. They're resourceful.

2614
02:09:40,680 --> 02:09:42,600
Speaker 1: I think it is. Look, it's only three games, but

2615
02:09:42,680 --> 02:09:46,040
Speaker 1: to me, Steve, that is maybe the defining characteristic of

2616
02:09:46,080 --> 02:09:48,720
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen Bills so far. And it's also been

2617
02:09:48,760 --> 02:09:51,760
Speaker 1: that they've had eight touchdown drives. All of them were

2618
02:09:51,800 --> 02:09:55,080
Speaker 1: seventy yards or more. They have done it the long way,

2619
02:09:55,600 --> 02:09:58,160
Speaker 1: certainly the big play to Dawson Knox the other day

2620
02:09:58,160 --> 02:10:00,240
Speaker 1: stands out as one. But they haven't done it really

2621
02:10:00,240 --> 02:10:04,400
Speaker 1: predominantly with the big play. You know, they've they've gotten

2622
02:10:04,400 --> 02:10:06,200
Speaker 1: some twenty yard runs all the way. They haven't done

2623
02:10:06,200 --> 02:10:08,120
Speaker 1: it with like a sixty five yard touchdown. They've had

2624
02:10:08,200 --> 02:10:10,160
Speaker 1: to punch it in. They're one of the best red

2625
02:10:10,240 --> 02:10:13,960
Speaker 1: zone offenses in the league. They've done it consistently, and

2626
02:10:14,040 --> 02:10:16,720
Speaker 1: they've you know, they haven't taken it hasn't been easy

2627
02:10:16,760 --> 02:10:19,680
Speaker 1: for them. They've given the ball away more than they've

2628
02:10:19,680 --> 02:10:22,640
Speaker 1: gotten it on turnovers, and they haven't got very many

2629
02:10:22,680 --> 02:10:24,840
Speaker 1: short fields and even when they did get short fields.

2630
02:10:24,840 --> 02:10:27,520
Speaker 1: The other defense was was stout. They have gone the

2631
02:10:27,560 --> 02:10:33,120
Speaker 1: long way. That a long touchdown drive says a lot

2632
02:10:33,160 --> 02:10:36,920
Speaker 1: about your discipline and your ability to execute, and this

2633
02:10:36,960 --> 02:10:41,600
Speaker 1: Bill's team has shown those things on in all three games. Uh. Certainly,

2634
02:10:41,600 --> 02:10:43,360
Speaker 1: there's been ups and downs, but they're not playing in

2635
02:10:43,360 --> 02:10:46,400
Speaker 1: a vacuum. Those teams they played, while they only won

2636
02:10:46,440 --> 02:10:50,160
Speaker 1: one game between the three of them, still pretty formidable

2637
02:10:50,160 --> 02:10:52,440
Speaker 1: at times. And they're still you still got to play

2638
02:10:52,480 --> 02:10:55,440
Speaker 1: those teams. It's still not easy to execute the way

2639
02:10:55,440 --> 02:10:57,760
Speaker 1: the Bills have. So I'm i'm, I'm in agreement with you.

2640
02:10:58,280 --> 02:11:03,200
Speaker 1: This is a team that seems way more solid, way

2641
02:11:03,240 --> 02:11:08,560
Speaker 1: more well rounded on in all facets of its game run, pass,

2642
02:11:08,680 --> 02:11:11,600
Speaker 1: run defense, pass defense than any team we've had in

2643
02:11:11,640 --> 02:11:13,800
Speaker 1: recent years or seen in recent squeezing. One more call

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02:11:13,880 --> 02:11:16,160
Speaker 1: here and on the line from Hamburg. Hello and welcome

2645
02:11:16,160 --> 02:11:19,840
Speaker 1: to the show. Hey John, how are you doing okay? Uh?

2646
02:11:20,360 --> 02:11:23,360
Speaker 1: I just I want to throw a different twist on this,

2647
02:11:23,440 --> 02:11:26,320
Speaker 1: and it goes back to me watching Steve Play way

2648
02:11:26,360 --> 02:11:31,680
Speaker 1: back when and when he was playing. This team for

2649
02:11:31,720 --> 02:11:36,720
Speaker 1: the first time since Steve played has a big enough

2650
02:11:36,920 --> 02:11:40,360
Speaker 1: roster and a deep enough roster to be able to

2651
02:11:40,360 --> 02:11:44,080
Speaker 1: compete with the Brady Belichick era. And trust me, New

2652
02:11:44,080 --> 02:11:47,200
Speaker 1: England knows that they're coming into this game with a

2653
02:11:47,200 --> 02:11:50,760
Speaker 1: team that they have to deal with. And you know,

2654
02:11:51,320 --> 02:11:55,560
Speaker 1: I don't, I really I think it's gonna be a

2655
02:11:55,560 --> 02:11:59,440
Speaker 1: great game. It's gonna be a defensive battle. Both coaching

2656
02:11:59,560 --> 02:12:05,560
Speaker 1: staffs are definitely proven, and I just I really think

2657
02:12:06,080 --> 02:12:09,040
Speaker 1: that it's gonna come down to game plan and everything

2658
02:12:09,080 --> 02:12:15,440
Speaker 1: else and execution. We cannot have the turnovers that we've

2659
02:12:15,440 --> 02:12:18,400
Speaker 1: had in the first thirty games at all. Thanks and

2660
02:12:18,520 --> 02:12:20,360
Speaker 1: makes a point that you've been making all week about

2661
02:12:20,360 --> 02:12:23,320
Speaker 1: how this Buffalo roster is good enough to win. Now

2662
02:12:24,200 --> 02:12:25,920
Speaker 1: that's another question, right, they got to execute and they

2663
02:12:25,920 --> 02:12:27,760
Speaker 1: got to do everything right. But they do have enough

2664
02:12:27,760 --> 02:12:30,160
Speaker 1: pieces and they all have to play well, the offense,

2665
02:12:30,200 --> 02:12:32,360
Speaker 1: the defense, the special teams. They all have to play

2666
02:12:32,360 --> 02:12:35,960
Speaker 1: mistake free football. And if you do that, this team

2667
02:12:35,960 --> 02:12:40,200
Speaker 1: does have enough talent and enough playmaking ability to beat

2668
02:12:40,240 --> 02:12:44,320
Speaker 1: the Patriots. But we've seen the Patriots year after year

2669
02:12:44,360 --> 02:12:47,000
Speaker 1: after year, game after game after game, season after season,

2670
02:12:47,280 --> 02:12:52,840
Speaker 1: play mistake free football better than anybody else. But that's

2671
02:12:53,280 --> 02:12:55,160
Speaker 1: if you're gonna build your And we had a couple

2672
02:12:55,200 --> 02:12:56,920
Speaker 1: of callers here a call Today's that this team is

2673
02:12:56,920 --> 02:13:00,000
Speaker 1: built to beat those guys only if they play well,

2674
02:13:00,680 --> 02:13:02,760
Speaker 1: Only if they play well. You want to talk about

2675
02:13:02,760 --> 02:13:04,880
Speaker 1: tomorrow show because it's huge. All right, I'll give it

2676
02:13:04,920 --> 02:13:07,720
Speaker 1: a minute. Go ahead, it needs a minute. Thurman, Thomas

2677
02:13:07,720 --> 02:13:08,920
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame are going to be on the show

2678
02:13:08,960 --> 02:13:12,440
Speaker 1: this tomorrow. Matt Chatham, former Patriots linebacker, does a lot

2679
02:13:12,480 --> 02:13:14,840
Speaker 1: of broadcast work in New England, will join us tomorrow

2680
02:13:14,840 --> 02:13:17,200
Speaker 1: to talk more about the Patriots. Greg Cosell, you know

2681
02:13:17,360 --> 02:13:20,440
Speaker 1: him from NFL Matchup on ESPM, and our regular Friday

2682
02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:23,320
Speaker 1: one o'clock guest The Lowdown, will the Renzo Alexander at

2683
02:13:23,360 --> 02:13:26,680
Speaker 1: two and here's the one the headline, the Gronkowski Brothers

2684
02:13:26,680 --> 02:13:29,520
Speaker 1: at two thirty. Right, they're promoting their new obstacle course

2685
02:13:29,560 --> 02:13:32,560
Speaker 1: type set up here that's coming to Buffalo and including Rob.

2686
02:13:32,600 --> 02:13:33,720
Speaker 1: They tell us Rob will be in the show, that

2687
02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:36,160
Speaker 1: Rob's gonna be. Rob Gronk ain't coming on our show.

2688
02:13:36,560 --> 02:13:38,720
Speaker 1: Had said the same thing to our producer, and he

2689
02:13:38,800 --> 02:13:45,840
Speaker 1: said he's confirmed. Rob Gronkowski. You're excited. Now that's tomorrow show.

2690
02:13:46,080 --> 02:13:49,200
Speaker 1: Make sure you join us tomorrow. Production assistance from George Blast,

2691
02:13:49,560 --> 02:13:52,480
Speaker 1: Jeff Colton and Thomas honald Or, Kelly Rude, jj Urito,

2692
02:13:52,840 --> 02:13:56,240
Speaker 1: Kevin Krgis, James Robell, Our producer Jay Harris. Tuning in

2693
02:13:56,280 --> 02:13:58,680
Speaker 1: tomorrow to see of rob shows. Tomorrow at noon, One

2694
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Speaker 1: Bill's Live from our Seneca studio. This is Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: Radio m