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Speaker 1: If this is true, I'm done? So who now? Who's

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Speaker 1: who'se bear? Source? Whose bear? So? Well? I just happened.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe you got Mike. Oh god, but this

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Speaker 1: is true that I'm done And you said just shut up?

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Speaker 1: Oh I didn't say fudge, right, And it's all about

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Speaker 1: leverage if you don't have two knees to tunis been

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Speaker 1: conference for two years now from him. There's also a

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Speaker 1: report that Joe Judge has become a Bailey advocate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that. Okay, Well, then I take it back,

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Speaker 1: because then that's probably not true. I forget ben voland

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Speaker 1: most Globe breeders do. I agree Steve Sarkia when I

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Speaker 1: called it like that, even I'm not willing to take

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Speaker 1: you on. Paul's my little pole. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: big one or the little one? It's been getting bigger.

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Speaker 1: This is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan. All Right, welcome

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Speaker 1: the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here at Gillette's Stadium,

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Speaker 1: and we've got another two hours of action, pack Patriots talk.

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Speaker 1: It's deuced. It's tamara soon to be Paul, myself, Matt

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Speaker 1: in the booth, and uh, Thursday means his video day.

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Speaker 1: I guess right day here we are, Yeah, Hi everybody, Yeah, Hi,

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Speaker 1: we're on video today. Um. We have a lot to

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Speaker 1: talk about because mainly I think Mike Reese's report that

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Speaker 1: you know, barring you know, the only hurdle between Mac

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Speaker 1: But otherwise he's good to go. I think that was

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Speaker 1: very carefully worded that Mac thinks he's going to be ready,

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Speaker 1: but we got to see how practice goes. We got

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Speaker 1: I still don't know if the medical has cleared him yet.

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Speaker 1: But to me, this sounds like Max saying like, I'm

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Speaker 1: are all that this. This seems to me like Max

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Speaker 1: that Mack is going to play, so they like Mac. Yeah. There,

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Speaker 1: it's getting bigger. Is that? Is that? Is that what

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Speaker 1: that it's Max's job when he's ready to play. I

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Speaker 1: just out of curiosity, how do you think the athletic

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Speaker 1: if Jeff, Yeah, he probably talked to some right, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Do you think you talked to Bill not Bill? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: it's you know, the callers. The callers are all zappy. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Like you think people in the media want to drive

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Speaker 1: it was just the you know, some of the continued

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Speaker 1: execution stuff. But I think it's an interesting point. Does

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Speaker 1: Matt come out try to prove a point? Is he

423
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Speaker 1: pushing the ball down the field and you have to

424
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Speaker 1: worry about that, you know? I think that's that's what

425
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Speaker 1: point a great point. Don't over don't overthink and what

426
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Speaker 1: you're telling about mac of oh, he's been ready to play,

427
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Speaker 1: he's ready to play, he's champing at the bit, you know,

428
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,439
Speaker 1: all that stuff like, but that that's the that's the

429
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Speaker 1: mark of somebody who might come in and be like,

430
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Speaker 1: regardless of who the Patriot quarterback is, if I expect

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Speaker 1: the Bears to throw the kitchen sync at him, whoever

432
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Speaker 1: the quarterback is, and whoever the quarterback is is going

433
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Speaker 1: to have to figure that out. Yeah. You know, one

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Speaker 1: more thing too, I thought, Paul was remember remember when

435
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Speaker 1: we got into mini camp and they were just like wow,

436
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 1: there really throwing the ball down the field the trade

437
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Speaker 1: Nixon a lot. And I remember you being like that

438
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Speaker 1: seemed like they're kind of doing this on purpose to

439
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Speaker 1: be like, see we can do this, And like I

440
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 1: wonder if that's a kid like, don't make it a

441
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Speaker 1: continuation against the Bears this weekend of like oh you guys,

442
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Speaker 1: Bailey Zappy was good. Way do you see these ball

443
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 1: start dropping and just starting you know, chucking them down today?

444
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Speaker 1: And I didn't take you like when you asked the question.

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Speaker 1: I didn't take it like how do I expect the

446
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Speaker 1: two quarterbacks to play? Like how how well they play? Yeah? No, no,

447
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Speaker 1: just what I took it as like what would the

448
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Speaker 1: game plan be? And I took it as like like

449
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Speaker 1: a continuation of what they've been doing. You know, they're

450
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Speaker 1: gonna run the ball, They're gonna you know, take the

451
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Speaker 1: shots with play action, protect the ball, get the lead.

452
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Speaker 1: That's the formula for But but here's the thing. I like,

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Speaker 1: I said, my bar from Mac is higher. He was

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Speaker 1: a first round draft pick. I don't care if he

455
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Speaker 1: was the fifth quarterback. Take it should be higher. It

456
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Speaker 1: should for a full year longer. I expect more out

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Speaker 1: of him than I do Zappy at this point. Yeah,

458
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Speaker 1: but I'm not necessarily. I don't think that question was

459
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Speaker 1: like who do you think we'll play better run Sunday?

460
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Speaker 1: It's like what do you expected? What do expectations? Yeah? Yeah,

461
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Speaker 1: I like that. I want, if it's Bailey Zappy, them

462
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: to continue to add on what they did against the Browns,

463
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Speaker 1: Like I felt like they were opening up the playbook

464
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Speaker 1: a little bit more, doing more with the offense with

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Speaker 1: him than they did in the Lions game obviously, So

466
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Speaker 1: if it's him, I want more of that. So like,

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Speaker 1: in other words, if the game plan was exactly the

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Speaker 1: same against Cleveland as it was and Mac played to

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Speaker 1: you a point, Fred, you'd expect to have done better

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Speaker 1: than Oh yeah, yes, yeah absolutely, But that's that's fine.

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I mean, I'm not telling you like that

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Speaker 1: you took the question wrong. I'm just telling you I

473
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Speaker 1: took it different yeah. I took it as how would

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Speaker 1: I go about playing based on yeah, the quarterbacks, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think anything will change. I took it a

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Speaker 1: little differently. Yeah, all right, well you know that's as

477
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Speaker 1: many that's what makes it good, as different as many

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Speaker 1: as many plays as Zappy made, I would expect Mac

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Speaker 1: to make more plays. Yes, I think that's I think

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Speaker 1: that's fair. Yeah. Maybe Mac gets in has a quiet start.

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Speaker 1: I mean quiet in a good way, not like he

482
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Speaker 1: doesn't do much, but just takes what's there, doesn't pick

483
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Speaker 1: on like the first series. I oh like right too,

484
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Speaker 1: And in that respect it's a good thing. This is

485
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Speaker 1: in a way game Oh yeah, you know, because they

486
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Speaker 1: would they would, yeah, start they would here, they would.

487
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: They did it with Brady, They'll do it with Matt. Wait, wait,

488
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 1: what isn't the game here? You know what? This is

489
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Speaker 1: gonna be a top That's why I like the whole,

490
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Speaker 1: I think, and I know most people go the other way.

491
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Speaker 1: They like you know, the Chicago games are soft landing.

492
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Speaker 1: We talked about the yesterday. Yeah, Chicago's you know, they're

493
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Speaker 1: not they're not very good. You get him out there,

494
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Speaker 1: you get to win under his belt, and then you

495
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Speaker 1: go to the Jets, who may or may not be better.

496
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Speaker 1: I'm still very skeptical you guys on board, um, and

497
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I think if I was like just Joe

498
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Speaker 1: mac Jones fan, like I'm ra Ra, I kind of

499
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Speaker 1: would like him just to come back on the road.

500
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Speaker 1: That's yeah, because I think this is the inherent pressure

501
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Speaker 1: of if something goes wrong, you got to hear it

502
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Speaker 1: from your own fans, and they will. If he goes

503
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Speaker 1: out and throws a pick on the first drive, I

504
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Speaker 1: don't anticipate that happening now, Justin Fields doing that, that's

505
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: very possible. Yeah, that's very possible. Well, I'll just be

506
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: happy to see Justin Field's allowed to drop back and

507
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: throw it like so I just I just launched the

508
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Speaker 1: ball with my arms and someone will catch it. You know.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go against something I've said before, Like I've

510
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: always said, like when it comes to Patriots, I want

511
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Speaker 1: them to blow out every opponent, you know, and it

512
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Speaker 1: would be nice if they got an early lead. You're

513
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: gonna get what you wish. Yeah, this week, it'd be

514
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Speaker 1: nice if they can get early lead. And it's not

515
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Speaker 1: even a game where Mac has to win it, right,

516
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe measure he tosses one late. But there's

517
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Speaker 1: a part of me, there's a part of me in

518
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Speaker 1: this game. I'd like Mac to have to do something

519
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: to just interesting, to just show that he can. That's

520
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: back to the Mac. The main Mac narrative. I feel

521
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Speaker 1: of of, Okay, we know you're pretty good against the

522
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Speaker 1: teams that are maybe overmatched or equal, but yeah, something

523
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Speaker 1: something outside the box. I don't this week. Just let's

524
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Speaker 1: see like the Bears getting like Khalil Herbert has like

525
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Speaker 1: a fifty yard run on the first series and it

526
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Speaker 1: sets up a field goal. They're down three nothing, and

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Speaker 1: then Patriots win, like, you know, thirty eight to three.

528
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Speaker 1: I thought he couldn't play it from behind, you know,

529
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: like one of those deals. I think you're more likely

530
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Speaker 1: to get one of those scenarios red maybe against the

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Speaker 1: Jets or like, okay, maybe Zach Wilson has the Jets

532
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Speaker 1: up five interceptions like last time, ye say they're up

533
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Speaker 1: twenty one fourteen and to complete five passes. Though, say

534
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: the Jets are up twenty one fourteen and the fourth

535
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Speaker 1: and then Mac Jones has to go out and I

536
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: love it. I love twice. Yeah, I would love it.

537
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Speaker 1: I mean I said, I would love him to succeed

538
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: in that. I don't think you would love it as

539
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: it was happening, and oh yeah, I'd be going crazy,

540
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: but just to get it out of the way, you know,

541
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Speaker 1: to get it out of the way. Some comeback wins.

542
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: But I mean, if you're gonna get a comeback win,

543
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: you gotta be down right, you have to have to

544
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: stare that downa We always got that, whereas got Houston

545
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: for the Chargers game. Wasn't that like down to the wire? Ish? Yeah?

546
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: They were losing in the fourth quarter of that game,

547
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Speaker 1: and then Herbert threw the pick yeah, which you know

548
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Speaker 1: that was a pick six that So let's say the Patriots, dude,

549
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: just plaster the Bears. Will Paul's people be saying, oh,

550
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: that's not fair. You know, Mac didn't even have to play.

551
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: I still think better you will you will hear something, Yeah,

552
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: you absolutely will. Yeah, I think you will hear some

553
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: of that just because of statistically how bad the Bears are.

554
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: Unless you are, you know, on Bill's side and have

555
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: a thousand great things to say about the Bears, then right,

556
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: you might have a different perspective afterwards. So it's funny

557
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: you talked about that the opening Diet Tribe about the Bears. Um, Andy, Well,

558
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to do the podcast with Andy, the Six

559
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: Rings podcast for him after our show, and he told

560
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: me they had a Chicago guy on half the guys

561
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: that Bill was talking about. The guy didn't even wasn't

562
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: even really like like I'm not even really aware of him,

563
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: Like he's like some of the guys, like the special

564
00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: Team guy, the guy from Chicago who covers Bears, like

565
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: he's not really on the radar. It left me scrambling

566
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: because I was writing the tend to Watch thing and

567
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: I kind of had had finished it up, and then

568
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: I heard Bill's thing, and I was like, special teams,

569
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Speaker 1: I know what. You know how you always like to

570
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: read into things Fred when Bill talks and it's like

571
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: he never said that, Dan Campbell, you know that you

572
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: never said Detroit's well coached, right, So you know that

573
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: the longer he goes with a bad team like that,

574
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: the more confident you should be that you're going to

575
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: get an absolute ass kicking. This is how we talked

576
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: about the old for Cleveland Browns being explosive with the

577
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: ability to score from anywhere on the field, like he

578
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: went on for days and days about how productive their

579
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: offense is and they're like the lowest scoring offense in football.

580
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: Like when he does that, you know that he's looking

581
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: at that and it's like, oh, man, I just gotta

582
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: come out and just throw stuff out there because this

583
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: team can't do anything. Yeah, well, oh it's gonna be

584
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: interesting Monday night. Pat, it's bears. I said, this is

585
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: my my like the last uninteresting game to me, not

586
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: that any game is uninteresting interesting, he says, But but

587
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: you're right. I mean for that, but as far as

588
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: like the interest, this is the last opponent that there's

589
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: really nothing for me to glump. I know the Jets

590
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: are the Jets, but the Jets are a divisional rival,

591
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: and I think that that's a really big game. Um,

592
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: but otherwise I don't care who they're playing. It's our

593
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: quarterback situation makes it interesting. That's the that'll that'll carry us.

594
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: That's That's what I'm talking about. So you've fallen into it.

595
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: You're going to be completely reactionary based on one game.

596
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: You're you're the guy that Mike has made. I'm gonna

597
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: go into it really nervous because I want Mac to

598
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Speaker 1: play well. Yeah, oh, I know, you know w well,

599
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: like I, I don't have a dog in the fire.

600
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: He doesn't. I think the other guy's playing great, so

601
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 1: I like, I know, and that's and that's really it

602
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: doesn't matter to me at all if Bailey's Appy ends

603
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: up being the guy or Mac Jones ends up being

604
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: the guy. And that's like like saying, like Drew and

605
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: Brady for me, like I had, like I liked Drew,

606
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: I like I had a stake in that one. It's

607
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: not like I'm like this big Mac guy. It's just

608
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: like I want our first round pick to be our quarterback.

609
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to have wasted that pick. But if

610
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: if Bailey Zappi is better, what do you care? What

611
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: do you think his ceiling is. I don't think it's

612
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: much different than Max. I really don't. So you don't

613
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: think that that's fine? So you don't care. But I'm

614
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: just saying, forget about what you think of a person.

615
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: What difference does it make if this guy ends up

616
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Speaker 1: being better? I hear him on just the draft pick thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's you know that, that's a little bit

618
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: of frustration, But I'm with you. Otherwise, I get it.

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Speaker 1: I get it. But but isn't the goal to make

620
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: sure you have a really good quarterback? Right? So whichever

621
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Speaker 1: guy is really good, what difference is it? Well that's

622
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: the key. Yeah. No, I'm not saying that one guy

623
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: stakes and the other guy stinks worse. I'm saying one

624
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: of them is really good. But well, that's right. If

625
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: Zappy ends up being like really good, I'd be like, wow,

626
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: they found another diamond. That's great. If you're asking me

627
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Speaker 1: my opinion, I agree with you, right. I don't think

628
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Speaker 1: that he's as good as Mac Jones, you know. So

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Speaker 1: it's just you know, I never expect it's you know,

630
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: we don't realize. But this is NFL reality, you know,

631
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Speaker 1: like most teams don't just go from one great quarterback

632
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Speaker 1: to another. Most teams go through this kind of purgatory

633
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Speaker 1: where they're looking for that. And I want to you know,

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Speaker 1: and make that window smaller. Yeah, I was gonna say,

635
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: where in the purgatory where they right now? Yeah? I mean,

636
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Speaker 1: can you remember a time like this in another NFL

637
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: team where there was you know, certainly an incumbent starter

638
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: who is good, but maybe you know, hasn't quite proven

639
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: that he is an elite quarterback and then you have

640
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: another guy kind of nipping at his heels a little bit,

641
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: who you know, up taking it. And then it's because

642
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: of injury and stuff. But like what like with Washington happened,

643
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: what happened with Robert Griffin and Kirk Cousins. You know,

644
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: it was mostly because of Mike Shanahan ripped up Robert

645
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: Griffin's knee right he played in the game. He had

646
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: absolutely no business playing, and it ended up doing irreparable damage.

647
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: It was never the same. But they've drafted both of

648
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: those guys. One was in the first round and one

649
00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: was in the fourth, fourth round, just like this, but

650
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: now same year. But Argie Three's first year, he was

651
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: it was great, he was great, and he got hurt.

652
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: He got and he got hurt in the playoff and

653
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: they rushed him back. Yeah, and then they played on

654
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: that that terrible field, and they got a lot of

655
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Speaker 1: criticism for rushing him back. Like Fred said, he was

656
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: better his rookie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just don't remember. Yeah,

657
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: I remember getting hurt, but that exact scenario you're talking about,

658
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: I can't remember of where you had an incumbent, you know,

659
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: and then you got on the second guy Yeah, that's

660
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: kind of there. No, it's just it's usually when it

661
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: happens you have two guys that aren't all that good,

662
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, like Steve Grogan and Matt Kavanaugh, you know

663
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Yeah, you know, it's it's just and

664
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Speaker 1: I only use that because that's home, that's Patriots. I

665
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: think that's where like my original like thing about the

666
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: radio and all that was just coming from a place

667
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Speaker 1: of is Mac ever gonna have Bailey z Appy off

668
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: his shoulders? Like, because I think you know where we

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Speaker 1: kind of come out is that. I mean, Mac good,

670
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: but I think he needs to something we haven't seen

671
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: yet to hit that next level. The problem with Mac

672
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: is this happened too early in his career. Yeah, you know,

673
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Speaker 1: if he had been an established starter for four or

674
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Speaker 1: five years here and then he gets hurt and the

675
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: guy comes in and it's great, Okay, he kept he

676
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: kept the seat warm. Yes, yeah, right, it happened too

677
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: earlier in his career. Sumping a little bit out of

678
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Speaker 1: the gate. Yeah, no one will be talking about that.

679
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: Fred's absolutely right. If he was the starter for three

680
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Speaker 1: years and then got hurt and missed a few games,

681
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: you'd be like, you know, thank you for your service, Bailey,

682
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: you know now, I mean, I mean, do you think

683
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Speaker 1: at any point it would be impetus to trade Bailey's

684
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Speaker 1: appy if you know, let's say Matt comes back. He's fine,

685
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: he's the starter. He doesn't, you know, play great or terrible.

686
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: He's just kind of maybe a little bit better than

687
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: it was last year that they feel like we got

688
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: let's get rid of one of these guys because we

689
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: don't want to have um when it comes up to

690
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Speaker 1: four years. Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say I wouldn't

691
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Speaker 1: until that, you know that would I would have him

692
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Speaker 1: up the same year, right, assuming if they picked up

693
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Speaker 1: Max ostensibly yes, but I would have um. I'm with

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Speaker 1: Fred on this. I would wait so the third year

695
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Speaker 1: and maybe going into that fourth year, if I thought

696
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Speaker 1: that I could get something, then I would. But that's

697
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Speaker 1: a good yeah, but something has to be I think

698
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Speaker 1: for me at least like a third or sec. And

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Speaker 1: I know this is gonna do like you said something

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Speaker 1: like you're always rooting for the blowout, but this one

701
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: you want, Like I'll say, my hypocritical thing today will

702
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: be cap related. Okay. I do think this value in

703
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Speaker 1: having a backup that you are feeling good about who

704
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: doesn't make any money. I think this value in that.

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Speaker 1: I sure as much as I pooh pooh the crap

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00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: the cap, I do think. Oh yeah, well, I think

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Speaker 1: you're benefiting having a guy who's making a hundred veteran

708
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: backup salaries. You could probably line those up and I

709
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: bet it's dropping the bucket with Billy's Appy's getting paid.

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Speaker 1: So and I think we were one of the like,

711
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Speaker 1: you know, Brian Hoyer made a decent you know, backup

712
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Speaker 1: quarterback salary as a thirty six thirty seven year old,

713
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: you know veteran. Yeah, eight five five past five hundred

714
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: is eight ticket hu line eight five five pasts five hundred.

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00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's go to the phones and see what

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Speaker 1: our listeners have to say. Let's start with Jerry in

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Speaker 1: North Carolina. Hey, Jerry, what's going on? Everybody? Hey a

718
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Speaker 1: long time Patriots fan? Great? Hello Jerry? Hey, Hey, um,

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Speaker 1: so I got really a statement in two questions. The

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00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: statement goes like this, So, um, I think one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest things a lot of people are missing when

722
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Speaker 1: it comes to the difference between Billy Zappy and Mac

723
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: Jones is when you see Billy Zappy you see a

724
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Speaker 1: little bit of that twinkle of um Brett Barkin, a

725
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: little bit of that gun plinner versus the long term

726
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: thinking thing that you get with Mac Jones. Okay, so

727
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Speaker 1: which one do you like? What do you say the

728
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: long term one? You get the methodical thinking, processing type

729
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: situation with Mac Jones that a lot of times get

730
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Speaker 1: him in trouble and he missus. Reef, Well, here's the thing,

731
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Speaker 1: if if, if numbers mean anything to you, Zappy had

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00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: some pretty damn good numbers in college now, albeit against

733
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Speaker 1: lesser competition. But man, he chucked the ball around, right,

734
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Speaker 1: So which one do you prefer? Jerry? So let me

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00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: ask you this before I answer that question. They may

736
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Speaker 1: ask you this. If Bailey ZAPPI was at Alabama with

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Speaker 1: the same tools that Mac Jones had, do you think

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Speaker 1: it would have been a different result or it would

739
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Speaker 1: have been higher? Oh? God, I think could have been

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Speaker 1: the same result. I don't know. I mean, yeah, I

741
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: think I think you could plug any quarterback team and

742
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: you would have had the same result. You got receivers

743
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 1: like you know Wattle, and you know, I mean it's everything. Yeah,

744
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: it's the coaching line, it's the line, it's the receivers,

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00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: it's the defense. Yeah, it had probably been similar. Yeah,

746
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Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is, would we still be having

747
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: the same conversation as if he's a backup quarterback, if

748
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: he would have played at Alabama with the same tools. Um,

749
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: it's a good point. It's a good point. The pedigree,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you down for zappy competition would have

751
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: been there. Yep, yeah, yep, yeah, okay, okay. But my

752
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: question is when are we going to start seeing more

753
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: of the trips uh sets with the with the wire receivers,

754
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: Like we got Kendrick Moore, we see Thornton's back, we

755
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: still got Jakobe Myers. I feel like we can get

756
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: a lot more UM play actions off those trips that

757
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: I think we've seen a little bit of that. I

758
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: have to ask Evan, but I do remember them. I

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00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: don't have the numbers because I don't care, but I

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00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: see like Parker Myers in in uh yeah, and I

761
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: and I and you know in a trip set too.

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00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: I've seen them all on the same side, like stacked

763
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: and you know, I've seen a little bit of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think three receivers is their most popular

765
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Speaker 1: personnel group. Yeah. I played almost entirely the first couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks too in it. Yeah, So I think you'll

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00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: see a little bit more of that, and I think

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00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: you've seen already a little of it already. I think

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Speaker 1: injured still depend on it, you know, And I don't

770
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Speaker 1: know they feel like they can build off anything that

771
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: Johnny did you know? Is that can that bump up

772
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: the two tight ends at all? But I think that

773
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: the injuries to Born and aglare the big question. It

774
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: makes us a little thin right now, all of us.

775
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: You know, before it was like, oh we've got this

776
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: glut of wide receivers and now or many Tree Nixon? Yeah, right,

777
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Speaker 1: So yeah, question, is there any true to the Patriots

778
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: looking at a DJ more. I haven't heard anybody j

779
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: the Patriots but that I don't really look at a

780
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff. So I haven't seen it. I

781
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: haven't heard it. I haven't heard I got a wide

782
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: receiver one for you. Um Thanks Jerry, Thanks Jerry. Um. So,

783
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: like we were talking about Jeremy Foller had born in

784
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Speaker 1: Agalore as possible trade candidates, and you know my initial

785
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: reaction is like, well, I mean, obviously not going to

786
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Speaker 1: get rid of both of them. I think they would

787
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: get rid of one if they got rid of any

788
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: of them. But what if they traded Born because they

789
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: thought they could get something for him, and then signed

790
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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, who's now seemingly getting close. I saw something

791
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: like the Chiefs are now you know, involved in that.

792
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: It no longer looks like it's a foregone conclusion that

793
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 1: he's returning to the Rams, which I think most people

794
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: entered the season thinking he's going back to the Rams.

795
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: Maybe he's looking at that offensive line and say, which

796
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: good is it going to do? And Stafford gets killed

797
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: every play? You know, I'm not gonna be able to

798
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: do anything. But would you be willing to entertain that? Fred?

799
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Speaker 1: If they traded Born, maybe got a draft pick or two,

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Speaker 1: and signed Odell Beckham? When's the deadline November first? I'm

801
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: just thinking, do I have enough information to say, Okay,

802
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: we've got a shot it's worth bringing him in, or

803
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: like it ain't gonna make a difference. Ah? I think so?

804
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: I would? I mean? I would? I mean right now,

805
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: my feeling about this Patriots team is that I wouldn't

806
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: probably want to stack them up against Buffalo. But I

807
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,479
Speaker 1: think if you added one more receiver to the mix.

808
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I take them against I mean straight up anybody.

809
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know they'll beat anybody that could

810
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: beat or lose to anybody. I guess outside. How much

811
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Speaker 1: better do you think the Patriots are offensively with Odell

812
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: Beckham instead of Kendrick Bourne. I'd like to believe that

813
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: they would. They would be healthy, think they'd have to

814
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: be They'd be better. Yeah, they'd be better. I don't

815
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: know how much, but they would be better not I mean,

816
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: it's hard to know where Odell Beckham's at, how he

817
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: would kind of fit into things, and you know, if

818
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: he messes better with how if they were using Born

819
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: like last year, I would probably say, I don't really

820
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: I'd rather have the guy that's been in the system

821
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: and work, and I know he works, and as opposed

822
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: to bringing the guy in who has more talent. You

823
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: don't think anybody would argue with that Beckham is a

824
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: better player than Kenrick Boy. I don't think anybody would

825
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: argue that, Um, you know, maybe some of the Wall defenders,

826
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Speaker 1: but I mean I think most people would would admit

827
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Speaker 1: that Beckham's a better player, yeah, but maybe not necessarily

828
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: better for you a team right now, and I think

829
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Speaker 1: you're right though. I think there's still a part of

830
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: me though, it's just like, can we just play Born

831
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: more and get more out of him. I mean, he's

832
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: got the toe injury now too, which probably going to

833
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: complicate those matters a little bit. But I don't know.

834
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Speaker 1: It's tough. I mean, it's a tough balance because Agglore

835
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: has the big contract, but he probably has a little

836
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 1: bit more appeal. I would say, just to other teams

837
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: that he's kind of been around a little bit, had

838
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: some success in Philadelphia. Born it's a little bit harder,

839
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: I think to translate like how does he fit into

840
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: everybody else's team? But he's more affordable, so that might

841
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Speaker 1: make him more movable. I think at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, they're gonna just stick with what they got.

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Speaker 1: Ever see here, though, let's go back to the phones.

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Speaker 1: We'll go to Anthony in Seattle. What's up, Anthony? The

845
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Speaker 1: worlds are read? No podcast? You got it? You got it?

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Speaker 1: I love that, man, I love that. Hey, um, a

847
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Speaker 1: couple quick things, um uh, I completely drew a blank.

848
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Speaker 1: Not so quick. Oh hey, Paul put me down for

849
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Speaker 1: for Matt last I saw what he was making plays

850
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Speaker 1: that I didn't think he was capable of making. So

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Speaker 1: I want to see more of that to see if

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Speaker 1: he can do that or that he was just out

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Speaker 1: of his mind that day, because I mean, if he

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Speaker 1: can be that but with one intercess in the set

855
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Speaker 1: of three, then he's my quarterback. So I want to

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Speaker 1: see if they can do that. All right, Um, I

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Speaker 1: uh what? I would you know it's calling it because

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about them the debate, that's the hot

859
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Speaker 1: debate about the down fifteen and going for two and

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Speaker 1: all that just stuff. And I actually haven't answered a

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Speaker 1: Paul's question why is it better to be down at

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Speaker 1: nine than eight? Which I didn't think. I haven't an

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Speaker 1: answer to that. But before I answer that, I do

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Speaker 1: want to say, Paul, I'm with you. If you put

865
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Speaker 1: me in the situation, I'm just gonna take the extra

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Speaker 1: point every time and try to get to two later. Um.

867
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Speaker 1: But when people were calling an emailing with their analytics

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Speaker 1: and they brought analytics to the picture, I don't want

869
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Speaker 1: to say I changed my mind, but they made me

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Speaker 1: realize that it's more of if you're gonna look at

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Speaker 1: it from an analytics standpoint, it's actually just kind of

872
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. It's like right down the middle,

873
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Speaker 1: you're either what you know, you're either gonna be successful

874
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Speaker 1: on the two point conversion or unsuccessful. Whether it's the

875
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Speaker 1: first time or second time. You're either gonna be tie

876
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Speaker 1: the game, or you're gonna be down two point kick

877
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Speaker 1: kicking an on side at the end of the game.

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Speaker 1: But but one one flight advantage, UH, to what you

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00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: were asking, Paul, why is it better to be down

880
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Speaker 1: nine than eight? If you're just just asking that question

881
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: in general, of course, not if you'd rather be down eight,

882
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Speaker 1: But if you're looking at it from in that scenario, um,

883
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Speaker 1: and you're again you're you're using analytics, you have to assume, Okay,

884
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Speaker 1: the same percent is the same chance that UH is

885
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Speaker 1: that you missed either made the extra two point in

886
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Speaker 1: version or you missed the extra or you missed the

887
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Speaker 1: two pointing version, whether you went for it on the

888
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Speaker 1: first second attempt. So go off the permits that you

889
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: missed the two point conversion either way. Well, then if

890
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: you're down let's say you're if you're down nine, then

891
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: that means you've already failed. If you're down eight, that

892
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: just means you haven't failed. Yet right, So if you're

893
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: down nine, you kick the ball off, which I think

894
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Speaker 1: that you're also still got time to kick the ball

895
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Speaker 1: off if there's six minutes left. But but either way

896
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Speaker 1: that you're here nor you say, let's say you're driving,

897
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Speaker 1: you're you know you're going at you're going fast. You

898
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: need you need two scores. Right. Let's say you get

899
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: to a fourth down and you got you know, all

900
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Speaker 1: the time, I was left two and a half minutes

901
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: left in the game. If you're down nine, he's already

902
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Speaker 1: failed and you're in field goal range, the field goal

903
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: is in play. If you're down eight, the field goal

904
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Speaker 1: is no longer in play. So in that Saints scenario,

905
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Speaker 1: you you know that you continue to drive, but say

906
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Speaker 1: you can burn the fourth down? Wait wait wait wait

907
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Speaker 1: wait wait, So you're down nine, the field goals in

908
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Speaker 1: play to make it six, right, right, So why down eight?

909
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Speaker 1: Is the field goal not in play to make it five?

910
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: Either way, you still need a touchdown? No, no no, no,

911
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 1: because because you're well, yes, the field goal isn't played,

912
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Speaker 1: but you're gonna get crucified, right because you don't know

913
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Speaker 1: that you've failed the two bing and burthen yet. So

914
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 1: if you yes, you you absolutely can't kick the field

915
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Speaker 1: goal to make it five, But then they're gonna I

916
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Speaker 1: wish kick a field goal. You gotta do you know

917
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 1: what I mean? No, No, because Bill Belichick was down

918
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: eight and didn't kick field goals in the twenty fifteen

919
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Speaker 1: AFC Championship game against Denver, and he got crucified for

920
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Speaker 1: it because if they kicked field goals on those three trips,

921
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have had Remember, they ended up getting a

922
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: touchdown and ultimately didn't get the two in the last minute. Anthony.

923
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Speaker 1: I also I summarily dismiss the fact that the two

924
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: point conversion play is always the same percentage, Like, if

925
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Speaker 1: you miss it early, you'll get you know, chances are

926
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: you get it late. You can't tell me that if

927
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: a team rallies for fifteen points in the last six

928
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Speaker 1: minutes of the game, that the chances of them getting

929
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 1: the two point conversion in the last minute aren't better

930
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 1: than they were with six minutes left before the comeback

931
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: has even started. Like, you can't tell me the motions

932
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Speaker 1: don't twenty three that did you think there was any

933
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: chance that those two two point conversions weren't going to

934
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: get converted? No, the train was rolling. Yeah, that's but

935
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Speaker 1: if you ask me about the other you asked me

936
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: about a third time play in the second quarter, I

937
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Speaker 1: would have told you again and the defense was gassed, right,

938
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Speaker 1: you know So, Anthony, thanks for the call. But I'll

939
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Speaker 1: tell you I get the theory. I mean, I understand

940
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: we've got so many I'm not going to get out

941
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: to them, and everybody has explained it. Everybody has explained it.

942
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: I understand what the mentality is. Am I allowed to

943
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: disagree with it? Sure? I don't really get the notion

944
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: that three scores in the last six minutes, it matters

945
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 1: how you get them, Like I would rather go seven

946
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: first than six. That's all you guys. It doesn't matter

947
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: because it's on a chart and it says, you know,

948
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: I would rather only need two scores. Yeah, but then three.

949
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: This is an important issue to people, but they're all

950
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: exp they're all explaining it the same way, and I

951
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: get it. They're all explaining it properly. I totally understand.

952
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: This is another thing. It's kind of like the soccer

953
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: people who tell you that you just don't understand it.

954
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: I understand. I just disagree. I'm like, we don't all

955
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: have to have the same opinion on things. Fourth down

956
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: from from like the other team's forty, go for it.

957
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: I love it. The analytics will tell you it's a

958
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: great move. I get it, I understand it. I agree

959
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: with it. But not every time. Not every time do

960
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: I agree with two points? Why do you think? Why

961
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Speaker 1: do you think most coaches feel it's best to put

962
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: off going for two as long as you can later

963
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Speaker 1: in the game you get then you you know, when

964
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: you're when you're chasing points, you put it off as

965
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: long as you can. Why do people think that is?

966
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: Because because it extends the game. It extends a game,

967
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 1: but it's also more sure to get the point. Take

968
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: the point. No, no, but but my point, like you

969
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 1: want to have hope, you want to play the rest

970
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: of the game. Like the game ended on them failed

971
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: two point conversion. I know people don't agree, but the

972
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: game ended because they found themselves still down two scores

973
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: with six minutes left. And now I need a miracle.

974
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Speaker 1: Now I need Kenyan Drake in Miami Miracle. Okay, if

975
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: I only need eight, I don't need a miracle. I

976
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: just need to stop one stop and then I can

977
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: go down and I can control it. If I can score,

978
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 1: I can tie it. If I don't, I lose same thing.

979
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah alright, but at least I have hope I can

980
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Speaker 1: play the last thing. I extend the game. I'm playing

981
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: the last six minutes competitively. Today's lunch is brought to

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Speaker 1: oh it's you know, kind of pointing where the pain

1254
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: was coming to Moses Cabrera. So yeah, it was pretty

1255
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: evident based off of pregame warmups in Cleveland that he

1256
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: was not playing. Okay, well right now, as of right now,

1257
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: it looks like Mac has a chance to start. Yep, yeah,

1258
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think that's probably the favorite

1259
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: in the clubhouse, right oh yeah, yeah. But I thought

1260
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: it was interesting that Bill. What was this Friday where

1261
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: he kept saying like someone could feel really good in

1262
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: practice the next day, wake up and be like that's

1263
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 1: right backwards. So I thought that's something you'd take a

1264
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: look at too. Was just seeing like, you know, how

1265
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: consistent this days throughout the weeks, Right, you're saying you

1266
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: gotta wait till next practice. I think we gotta wait

1267
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: till Monday. He kept saying how important that Saturday is

1268
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: and how everybody when they wake up that Saturday, how

1269
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: they feel, because that could tell a lot about if

1270
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna be ready for the game. Yeah. You know,

1271
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: what's an interesting little thing I was wondering too. They've

1272
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: now promoted Garrett Gilbert I believe twice correct from the

1273
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: practice squad, so they got one one or more. Yeah,

1274
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: so kind of interesting, like little inflection point can you

1275
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: set those or something I thought I saw Miguel talking about.

1276
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: So you can. Once he gets to three. My understanding

1277
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: is then you have to sign him to the fifty

1278
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: three to activate him on game day, and he can.

1279
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: He passes through waivers, right, that's the biggest thing. It's different.

1280
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 1: So with the standard elevation, they revert back to the

1281
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: practice squad the next day after the game and they

1282
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: don't have to pass through waivers, and that's how you

1283
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: can get guys up from the practice squad. But once

1284
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: you get beyond that three standard elevation number, now guys

1285
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: are subject to waivers. So I don't necessarily think it

1286
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: would matter for Garrett Gilbert. But little Jordan Humphrey has

1287
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 1: already gotten elevated twice, so he only has one more

1288
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: to go. And if Aglare is not going to be

1289
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: out there, then then fairness, he has already cleared waivers.

1290
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: Once he has I don't really think you have to

1291
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: worry about that. I don't think you'll have to worry

1292
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: about it with Derek Hill. All right, Well, if you're

1293
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: feeling good about it, Paul, then I guess I mean

1294
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: I might be I might be the outlier there, but

1295
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: I think I'm saying if anybody's gonna get claimed, it's

1296
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: gonna be Little Jordan, It's not gonna be Garrett Gilbert. Yeah,

1297
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: I think they have the same amount of chance of

1298
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: getting claimed. Pads are no pads today, full pads, full pads,

1299
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: full pad pads. If you paid attention to Evan's given

1300
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: you all this information, full pads, they're Kedderborne did have

1301
01:05:56,120 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: a visor one, but yeah, full pads. I think yesterday,

1302
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: you know, Belichick when we talked to him in the morning,

1303
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: said they were going to do meetings in film work

1304
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 1: and kind of get ahead on that sort of stuff.

1305
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: So today I think it sounds like a pretty full

1306
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: go at practice in terms of in season practice. So

1307
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: do you think you know this is just a theory.

1308
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: Do you think Bill wants to get that full practice,

1309
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: full pad practice right now? To see how Mac does

1310
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: right now, it's possible. Well, it's usually the first practice

1311
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: that is full pads when they when they go full pads.

1312
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: Some weeks they don't go full pads at all. I think,

1313
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: what is it like eleven out of fourteen weeks or

1314
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: something like that. Some weeks they don't go full pads

1315
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: at all, But when they do, it's usually the first.

1316
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: It's usually Wednesday, which is today, was a week they

1317
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: chose to be in the pads that day, and they

1318
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: were last week too. I thought, yeah, they were in

1319
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: pads last week. It was the week before that. Ago

1320
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: is that we took a day? Yeah, they walk through.

1321
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: They took the walk through day after the overtime games. Yeah,

1322
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 1: I think it was after the overtime game. They went

1323
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: walked through on the Wednesday. It was after the Ravens game. Okay, yeah,

1324
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 1: So with Mac back out there running around, how did

1325
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: that affect the mood? Look, I mean a big media

1326
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: contingent out there are a lot of cameras big on

1327
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. I think the rest report how report this

1328
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 1: morning kind of stirring up the buzz that Mac Jones

1329
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 1: is expected to play on Monday Night for the Patriots.

1330
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 1: I think got a lot of people out there today,

1331
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: and yeah, I think the general feeling from everybody that

1332
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: was out there was that Mac looked like a different

1333
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: guy than what we not necessarily physically, I mean we

1334
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: barely saw physical evaluation, but in terms of just his vibe, right,

1335
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, the way he was carrying himself, what he

1336
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: was doing, where he was when he was supposed to.

1337
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: So did he come out like sort of like this

1338
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: is my team, I'm back that kind of swagger. Yeah,

1339
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: not Like I think that's really interesting. I like that,

1340
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: Like like you're not necessarily saying, well, he was moving better,

1341
01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: You're saying like his sort of aura exactly, yeah I'm back. Yeah,

1342
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, I like that. I like that.

1343
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: I like I like that. I'm little Kirk Cousins like

1344
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: that he's excited. Well, but I'm being dead serious, like

1345
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 1: like you said, like when they usually break out and

1346
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: they start going, you know, through their stuff, and Bailey's

1347
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: appy was leading those periods last week and today it

1348
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 1: was Mac. I like that, like, this is my team.

1349
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm the guy that Hey, Bailey, did you did a

1350
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 1: really good job. Thanks for not allowing the train to

1351
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: go off the tracks. But I got it finally, just

1352
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: give me the keys. I see what Ivan's talking about

1353
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: though in some of the videos, like he looks like,

1354
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, like a kid, like running to his dog

1355
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: after school or something. I don't think that's insignificant. Maybe

1356
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: I'm making too much because well that just wasn't what

1357
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 1: we saw in the last couple of weeks that we've

1358
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 1: seen him out there participating in the limited capacity. And

1359
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he won't be limited again today, right,

1360
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: but he's going to be limited on Monday, Like he's

1361
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: not like he had a serious high ankle sprain that

1362
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: didn't just disappear in four weeks. I know he's gonna

1363
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: be limping. I know it's not gonna look great, but

1364
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: I just like his vibe the way you're talking about yeah, yeah,

1365
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: and it might be too like the first maybe today's

1366
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: the first chance he actually gets to get into practice

1367
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 1: and like you know, he's excited to actually he knows

1368
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: he's going to make the first week that maybe maybe

1369
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: he's starting the practice week knowing he's got a chance

1370
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: to play. Well, I just will say that based off

1371
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: of what you hear the rumblings around the build, he

1372
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: did take part a little bit in practice last week

1373
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 1: at times, and that's why he traveled to Cleveland because

1374
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 1: there was a chance that he was going to play

1375
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: in that game on Sunday. I think on Saturday night

1376
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 1: they sort of made that decision that, look, with the

1377
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: Monday night game the next week, we have a little

1378
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: bit of a longer week. Let's let's play this safe

1379
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 1: and go one more week with it and make sure

1380
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: that it were one hundred percent or close to it

1381
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: as but it closes it to it as he can.

1382
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: But last week it was not all zappy taking first

1383
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 1: team reps. There were some instances where mac Jones was

1384
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 1: circling in there as well. So I think every single

1385
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: week we see a little bit more. But today, like

1386
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: we keep saying, it was just sort of the way

1387
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 1: he was carrying himself. Yeah, you know, it's just a

1388
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 1: different type of swack. I'm bad. Yeah yeah, all right,

1389
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: five five five hundred is the ACE ticket out line. Again.

1390
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: I want to thank Pete Ottawa for buying lunch today.

1391
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 1: Thanks Pete was delicious. Um, let's go to Matt and Arizona.

1392
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: What's up Matt? Well, Hey, hey hey everyone. Happy Sports

1393
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 1: Equinox Thursday Sports Equinox. All the sports are playing today.

1394
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: Oh wow, so um, I know you guys, don't you

1395
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: know all the trade rumors. But I heard I see

1396
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: that Jack Mason from the Panthers is potentially available. Is

1397
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: that something able to look into? Possibly Shack Thompson. Thompson,

1398
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: Jack Thompson from the Panthers, I think everybody and how

1399
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 1: he would fit in, man, I don't know. I mean,

1400
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: I think he's more of those the undersized guys, right, yeah,

1401
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm I'm over chasing the speed at linebacker. I think

1402
01:10:56,240 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: they unless you're getting a player that is a freak

1403
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 1: and has that kind of speed with some size to

1404
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 1: him as well, like you know, prime Jamie Collins is

1405
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 1: like the example I always go back to, which is,

1406
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, only a handful of guys on the planet

1407
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: that are two hundred and fifty five pounds that moved

1408
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: like Jamie Collins did. What's the difference between a guy

1409
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 1: like Shack Thompson and just playing Kyle Dugger at the

1410
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: linebacker level, or Adrian Phillips at linebacker or Mack Wilson.

1411
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 1: I just don't know if there's a huge yeah, good advantage.

1412
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 1: Go back to your Derek Brown thing. I think that's

1413
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 1: the that's the guy. Yes, yeah, thanks for the call, Matt.

1414
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: Let's go to Mike and Connecticut. What's up, Mike. Are

1415
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: you guys doing good? I remember you guys were talking

1416
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: earlier before the break about and Paul said too, you know,

1417
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 1: it's good to keep Zappy at the backup because he's chief.

1418
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: I think he's played well enough to keep that spot

1419
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 1: from Lawyer. And I mean, I'd rather see Zappy play

1420
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 1: if that was the case over Lawyer at this point.

1421
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm team Mack by the way. I just want to

1422
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 1: get that gat, noted Um. I think it'd be good

1423
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 1: to keep him, you know, and I want him to

1424
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: push Mac. I don't want Mac to, you know, if

1425
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 1: it was the case, I don't want Mac to whine

1426
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 1: about Zappy being over his shoulder or whatever, like you know,

1427
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 1: go beat him up then, you know, like if you're

1428
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 1: as good as you possibly think you are, you know,

1429
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:17,759
Speaker 1: you shouldn't have anything to worry about. Yep, R right totally.

1430
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: And then the last thing I wanted to, you know,

1431
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: and I guess it's great that Evan's there, you know,

1432
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 1: are we ever going to really see and maybe if

1433
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: Mac comes back, maybe we'll see that this week and

1434
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: maybe as we go forward, but are we going to

1435
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: ever see like more pre snap motion. I feel like

1436
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 1: when we watched the Dolphins versus Week one, they had

1437
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: Tyree Hill running all over the place, and I know

1438
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 1: that we don't maybe have someone like that, maybe Taekwon Thornton,

1439
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: we don't know, But like I feel like even with

1440
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne, getting those guys moving before the snap could

1441
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: help out Mac or Zappy and and then get them

1442
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 1: going up the field with some speed. Yeah, it's I've

1443
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: been harpened on that since Week one and they're still

1444
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:54,759
Speaker 1: near the bottom of the league in pre snap motion,

1445
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's something that they are super

1446
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 1: crazy about now. I think one thing that definitely changes

1447
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: when you have a rookie quarterback is that sometimes the

1448
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: pre snap motion can actually cause a lot of confusion

1449
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 1: for both the offense and the defense. But obviously you're

1450
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 1: doing it to cause the defense of confusion, but offensively,

1451
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: you're changing the formation, you're changing the coverage structure, and

1452
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 1: there's different reads and things like that that you're going

1453
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 1: to have to make in a split second because of

1454
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: that motion. So a less experienced quarterback you usually dial

1455
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 1: back things like motion. Now play action that's different. That's

1456
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 1: something that you always want to use in general, but

1457
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: especially with the younger quarterback. But when it comes to

1458
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 1: motioning guys, that is kind of like, you know, more

1459
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 1: graduate level type of stuff for the most part. Yeah, yeah,

1460
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 1: and I agree, they definitely need to use more play

1461
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,560
Speaker 1: action with Mac. I think whatever the low percentage it

1462
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 1: was when he was in there, it's just embarrassingly low. Yeah,

1463
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 1: especially with how well they've run the ball. And I

1464
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 1: know that's a cliche because you don't have to run

1465
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: the ball well to play action effectively, but I think

1466
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 1: it helps. So the better you the ball, I think

1467
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 1: it helps you. And they, you know, there were times

1468
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 1: where they were running the ball reasonably well, and they

1469
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: still haven't really used a ton of play action with

1470
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: Mac this year, not like last year and not like

1471
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: since Zappie has taken over. Yeah, I wouldn't. Like, I

1472
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 1: agree with the nerds and the fact that the volume

1473
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: of running doesn't necessarily impact the play action, but the formation,

1474
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 1: the blocking scheme, the timing of the play like I think, yeah, like,

1475
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 1: I think all those types of things when you put

1476
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 1: run personnel on the field and you're in a run

1477
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,759
Speaker 1: formation and then you mimic a run with your offensive

1478
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 1: line Like that's how you sell play action, and that's

1479
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 1: what makes it so effective. So I think that there

1480
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 1: is a lot to be said for the fact that

1481
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 1: you gotta time up play action on first and second

1482
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: down with that sort of look to it that you

1483
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: it looks like you're running the football, but you're not.

1484
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,520
Speaker 1: And I think that that's why it's been so successful.

1485
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 1: In the last couple of weeks. Matt's in Florida. What's up, Matt? Hi?

1486
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: First time, long time, Thank you. I moved down here

1487
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: about fifteen years to go to Florida. Um, and you

1488
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 1: guys have been keeping me in the loop, so I

1489
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Where'd you move from? Um? Cape Cod Sandwich,

1490
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 1: mass Oh, that's where I live. Good? Good for you.

1491
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: Maybe why'd you leave? Maybe you moved into his house?

1492
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 1: Why'd you leave Paradise? My family moved down here. Okay,

1493
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: I was in high school. I didn't have a say

1494
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 1: in the matter. But uh, um, I'm calling because kind

1495
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: of last minute, I've been able to schedule a trip

1496
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 1: up there. I'm gonna be able to go see my

1497
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 1: first game at Gillette I'm really excited. Then I'm gonna

1498
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 1: be done in a week on the Cape with my

1499
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 1: girlfriend and hopefully fingers crossed, come back engaged. So wow,

1500
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,560
Speaker 1: it up the hot top listening. I got engaged on

1501
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 1: the Cape? What do you got a whole plan? Does? She?

1502
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 1: Is she aware this is coming? Yeah? I mean we've

1503
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 1: been together for a ten years, so we've had a

1504
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 1: time kind of slack of antlimatic at this point, been three.

1505
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 1: Where are you gonna go on? Where are you gonna

1506
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: go on the Cape? You gotta spot picked out everything

1507
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 1: on sandwich and we're gonna be Fred to come over

1508
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 1: and help you out here, Fred, you should come over

1509
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 1: and give him your blessing. Yeah, I'll present the ring

1510
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: like Premima knocked out with Fred. So who do you like? Mac? Yeah?

1511
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 1: I know I was calling because I also wanted to

1512
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 1: get him Paul's pole here ride that favorite thing. I

1513
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 1: call in right after we get the report from Evan.

1514
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 1: But I am on team Mac. Okay, I think um now,

1515
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 1: Fred will definitely give you his blessing like Paul. I

1516
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 1: uh started having some mixed feelings after watching Zappy that game.

1517
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 1: But kind of what I've come to think is that

1518
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: for the first time a long time. I don't think

1519
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: Bill's main goal this year is winning. I think a

1520
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 1: lot of people kind of got that idea with Cam

1521
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 1: Newton and last year making to the playoffs. But I

1522
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: think if you look at you know, not going after

1523
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator, not bringing back you know, the old

1524
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 1: folks home of linebackers, and starting all these rookies and everything,

1525
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 1: I think he's his main goal was trying to get

1526
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 1: Mack to start doing some things different, and that's kind

1527
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 1: of what led to all the turnovers. And yeah, we'll

1528
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: see here going forward, but I think we got to

1529
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 1: give Max some time to make those mistakes, like Fred

1530
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: was saying, and started making the plays downfield. Interesting. All right,

1531
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 1: thanks Matt, good luck Matt, She says, yes, yeah, yeah,

1532
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 1: So I think he said that in an interesting way,

1533
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 1: and I don't necessarily agree with it literally that Bill's

1534
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: not interested in winning. I mean, obviously he's cares a

1535
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 1: lot about winning, but I do think that there's something

1536
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 1: to be said of there was a sort of change

1537
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 1: in direction with in terms of the personnel usage. Right.

1538
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: We talked about this a lot. They're using a lot

1539
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: more young players than they have now. It's not just

1540
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 1: because you know player X Y and Z is better

1541
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 1: than young player X Y and Z from the past.

1542
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: I think that part of it. I think Jack Jones

1543
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: is better than Jowan Williams as an example. Okay, but

1544
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: it's not just that. I think he's shown more of

1545
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 1: a willingness to say, these kids are gonna make some mistakes,

1546
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 1: but we're going to live through them and we're gonna

1547
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: be better off for them, much like the philosophy that

1548
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 1: Evan talked about offensively yesterday. With Mac Jones, you understand

1549
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 1: what needs to be done to get where you want

1550
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 1: to go ultimately, and in order to get there, you're

1551
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 1: gonna make mistakes along the way, and you might not

1552
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 1: be as good as you could be this year with

1553
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: Mac Jones figuring out how to make these big plays

1554
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: without turning the ball over. But I think Bill hopes

1555
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: down the road, I will have an offense that's capable

1556
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 1: of playing with anybody, not just the bad teams. Yeah.

1557
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 1: I still go back to the Saban thing and he

1558
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: did it might play defense anymore much before Bill, because

1559
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 1: I think Bill, I think he's actually asked about it.

1560
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 1: Maybe last year someone asked him. And you think Phil

1561
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 1: I think Phil Perry. He didn't really like the like

1562
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 1: the bristol at it. Yeah, he said, oh well we

1563
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 1: want to use your defense. Well, we want a Super

1564
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 1: Bowl thirteen to three, you know, not too long ago, right,

1565
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, stuff like that. Scored one hundred points in

1566
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 1: the two games to get to that, right but right.

1567
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 1: But I do think that he's kind of coming to

1568
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 1: that realization a little bit more now. And the sort

1569
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 1: of the blueprint that you look at. It's not necessarily

1570
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 1: that you can't win in the meantime or you can't

1571
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 1: be competitive in the meantime, but you look at what

1572
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,640
Speaker 1: you know Buffalo did or what Kansas City did, and

1573
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 1: sort of this build up with the young quarterback where

1574
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 1: really you're looking to hit the ceiling and like you're

1575
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 1: three or four of that rookie contract. So we're in

1576
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 1: your two right now for Max. So this is kind

1577
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 1: of like the appetizer, right, this is this is the setup.

1578
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 1: Now next offseason, you got a bunch of money again

1579
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:43,600
Speaker 1: in free agency, you can make some more moves to

1580
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 1: fill the holes or maybe upgrade certain places of your roster,

1581
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 1: and yours three and four is really where you want

1582
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 1: to be at that peak of maximizing Mac Jones. So

1583
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:56,679
Speaker 1: this you're not necessarily I don't think in the building

1584
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 1: they would say it's not a we're not trying to

1585
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 1: win or we're not trying to contend. I wouldn't take

1586
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 1: it super literally, right, but I do think that there

1587
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: is it's a it's a rebuild, so obviously it's going

1588
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 1: to take a couple of years. Yeah, let's go to

1589
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:14,719
Speaker 1: Bailey in Connecticut. Zappy's up, Bailey, because you're not getting

1590
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 1: the one reps. I didn't think Mac looked that good

1591
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 1: at practice, and I don't want to be QB two.

1592
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 1: Sorry Bailey. Hey there, guys, Um, I'm gonna say right now,

1593
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 1: go with Mac absolutely. Um. I think last week showed

1594
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: that we are, you know, still a system team where

1595
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 1: our play calling was looking great last week, probably the

1596
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 1: best it's ever looked this season. We were really really

1597
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 1: splitting that coverage and we were blocking really really well,

1598
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: so it opened up a lot of that play action

1599
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: and so I think, you know, we're looking really really

1600
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 1: solid going in this season. Okay, thanks, thanks Bailey, appreciate

1601
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: the call. Let's go to Dwayne in Boston. What's up Dwayne? Hello? Hey, UM,

1602
01:20:55,280 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: I have a question for you. Um, over the last

1603
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 1: eight games that mac Jones has played, including their playoff

1604
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 1: loss to Buffalo, mac Jones has only won two of

1605
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: those the last eight games that he started. Can you

1606
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 1: take a few minutes to just kind of talk about

1607
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: what has gone wrong during the last eight starts that

1608
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 1: mac Jones has had, and what and how you expect

1609
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 1: the things to improve or get worse in the next

1610
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 1: eight starts that mac Jones had. That's a good question.

1611
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 1: I would need to know the opponents. No, But like

1612
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 1: I would ask you my simple, snarky answer to what

1613
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,640
Speaker 1: went wrong in the last eight games, the six of

1614
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 1: them that he lost, is they played against good teams. Yeah,

1615
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: but like there's no there's no doubt in my mind

1616
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 1: that the Patriots would be three and three if mac

1617
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 1: Jones played all six games. I think that you could

1618
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 1: make an argument that they be four and two, Yeah,

1619
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 1: because I think they might have beaten three and Bay.

1620
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 1: Now the whole game changes, But I'm just talking about

1621
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 1: the way that game unfolded. If mac Jones played, they

1622
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 1: win the way that game went down. But well, I

1623
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 1: guess I don't mean they interrupt you, No, No, I'm

1624
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 1: just saying they lost. I mean, they lost a Buffalo twice,

1625
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 1: they lost to Baltimore, they lost to Miami twice. Like,

1626
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 1: they lost to good teams. And the games that they've

1627
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:17,480
Speaker 1: won have been against the Cleveland's, the Detroits, Yeah, the Jacksonvilles.

1628
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate it. I hate saying it, but

1629
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 1: that's that's what it's been. But I also think the

1630
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 1: defense fell apart. And maybe they weren't that good to

1631
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 1: begin with, but right they couldn't stop a cold. But

1632
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: you will say, like, can you just, like you know

1633
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 1: how I told you if the Jets end up being

1634
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 1: really good in two weeks and the Jets and like

1635
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: they beat the Patriots, I tell you can blom me

1636
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 1: to death because I don't see it happening. Okay, can

1637
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 1: you just say, like the next time they play a

1638
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,680
Speaker 1: really good offense, if the offense, like, don't tell me

1639
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 1: the Patriots defense fell apart like they did against Baltimore. Like,

1640
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 1: let's not just say like that the defense felt. That's

1641
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: what when you play a good offense, the other team's

1642
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 1: gonna score. It's getting back to Evans thing about Nick

1643
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 1: Saban in defense, and I think it took that Monday

1644
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: night game in twenty twenty when Bill told Lewis Riddick

1645
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 1: and Brian Greasy that Josh Allen ain't all that anyone

1646
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 1: out and scored thirty eight of the most easy points

1647
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 1: in the first three quarters of the game. But and

1648
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 1: I think he said, yeah, I think I might. I

1649
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 1: might be wrong about that. I thought I could just

1650
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 1: stop anybody with my schemes. I can't absolutely. But you know,

1651
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 1: it's one thing to not to give up points in

1652
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: the NFL, everybody does it. It's another thing to not

1653
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 1: have the other team punt. In two games. You know,

1654
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 1: they just didn't. They couldn't do anything. You know, they

1655
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 1: really they fell apart. And a lot of it is

1656
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 1: they played better teams, There's no doubt about it. But

1657
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, I don't see other I didn't see other

1658
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 1: teams not, you know, able to force a punt. I'm

1659
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 1: not going to get fixated on whether or not they punted.

1660
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 1: I mean, the next game the Bills played, the Rams

1661
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 1: didn't make them punt either. Like, I'm not going to

1662
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 1: fixate on the whole punting thing in general. When you

1663
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,799
Speaker 1: see the Chiefs play, their offense plays well, the Bills

1664
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 1: their offense plays well. Like there you know, last your

1665
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 1: Dallas's offense played well virtually every game. Like there there

1666
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 1: are teams that just have offense. I don't care what

1667
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 1: you do on defense, you're gonna give up points and yards. Yeah,

1668
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 1: I didn't fall apart defensively. You got beat by better personnel.

1669
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:14,799
Speaker 1: But earlier in the season, like you said, against Dallas

1670
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,560
Speaker 1: and against Tampa Bay, the defense didn't fall apart. No,

1671
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 1: they did defense. They gave up over five hundred yards

1672
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 1: and thirty something points. This is what I'm saying. When

1673
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: you played good offenses, you couldn't stop them. Well, they

1674
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 1: kept them in the game against Dallas, but it was

1675
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 1: fairly close, wasn't It was an overtime game, but the

1676
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 1: other team moved the ball and scored at will Friend. Yeah,

1677
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think Dallas punted it too

1678
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 1: many times in that game. Well to use your like

1679
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: be all end all. If your punt, that means you

1680
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: played defense. And I think you're right, Paul, like to

1681
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 1: the general point of like just playing better teams, and

1682
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 1: but like, why can't they beat those better teams. I

1683
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 1: think this offseason they showed you a little bit that

1684
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 1: I think they just need to get faster. They need

1685
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: more athleticism, and that's why I'm there. That was the

1686
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 1: motivation year from you know, from Macro this spring, like

1687
01:24:58,520 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 1: you know, we wanted to get faster. I mean, just

1688
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 1: look at all of them can run, and all of

1689
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:07,759
Speaker 1: them are are contributing now and stepping right into the lineup,

1690
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 1: and they're needed to be more of that. If there've

1691
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 1: been more of that in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, you know,

1692
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 1: then we might as Fred's points. Maybe because you you're

1693
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 1: a little younger, maybe you won't wear down. And that's

1694
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 1: another thing to say, like Judean usage down a little bit.

1695
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: So I mean you see little elements here and there

1696
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 1: of trying to avoid what happened last year. But I

1697
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 1: mean the more I hear from you know, you talk

1698
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 1: to people who are like the same place I am, where, yeah,

1699
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 1: the defense looks really good, the coverage is man, they're

1700
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 1: right on top of everything. But that's wait, that's wait

1701
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 1: till after Thanksgiving we'll see it, which is just a

1702
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 1: weird place to be because usually you felt like, all right,

1703
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 1: these bad games in October November, all right, they're figuring

1704
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 1: it out there. But but after Thanksgiving we'll have it,

1705
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 1: and it's been the reverse of that. So I think

1706
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 1: we're all a little bit, you know, trepidatious about what's

1707
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,600
Speaker 1: gonna happen when you fact you're not gonna you're not

1708
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 1: gonna you're not gonna shut down Kansas City and you're

1709
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 1: not gonna shut down the bills. But a stop here

1710
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 1: or there is what you know. It's like that tennis match.

1711
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 1: Can you break the serve once but so that you

1712
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 1: can get up. They couldn't really slow down Indianapolis if

1713
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,719
Speaker 1: they didn't even have a quarter Millie. They fell apart. Okay,

1714
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: you can keep saying they fell apart. I'm telling you,

1715
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,600
Speaker 1: Jarathan Taylor is better than them. Yeah, I think I

1716
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 1: don't think they fell apart. I think they got beat

1717
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 1: by a better player. I think to Paul's point, and

1718
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of the conversation about the offensive line,

1719
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 1: where everyone's like the offensive line this and that, it's

1720
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: like yes, to Paul's point, he keeps saying about this

1721
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Each of them individually, they're gonna have

1722
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 1: plays where they could beat It's going to happen. The

1723
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:32,679
Speaker 1: defense is going to get scored on. It's going to happen.

1724
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 1: But I think the main issue the offense not being

1725
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 1: able to convert in the red zone. Like all these

1726
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: field goals, I'm over it, Like how you can't compete

1727
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 1: with the Bills. You can play a great defense all

1728
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 1: you want, the Bills are going to score, so you

1729
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 1: need to score and the field goals aren't going to

1730
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 1: cut it. Yeah, Oh that's like I think it's just

1731
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 1: not it just also like you know, we used to

1732
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: be in this position, right because they had Brady and

1733
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 1: they had the offense every single year. So the Patriots

1734
01:26:57,560 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: used to be in this position, and every team that

1735
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 1: always used to beat the Patriots were going for it

1736
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 1: on fourth down. We're pedal to the medal or the

1737
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 1: whole game, putting pressure on New England to keep scoring.

1738
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 1: Like I always go back to the Eagles Super Bowl

1739
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 1: second one, seventeen Super Bowl right where you know, it's

1740
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 1: it's the Philly Special. It's going for it when they

1741
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 1: need to go for it on fourth down. It's taking

1742
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 1: risks on offense because they knew that Brady's gonna throw

1743
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,679
Speaker 1: for five hundred and we're gonna have to be able

1744
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 1: to score forty points to win this game. And I

1745
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 1: really feel like with Josh Allen. I'm not talking about

1746
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 1: the league as a whole, because I think there are

1747
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 1: games like in Cleveland, like this Monday night game against

1748
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 1: the Bears, where the Patriots can probably win this game

1749
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 1: ten to three with ten points by their defense, quite frankly, right, Like,

1750
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 1: I really feel like they could do that against a

1751
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 1: lot of these teams. But the team that you're trying

1752
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 1: to compete with is the Bills, and Josh Allen is

1753
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 1: a cyborg and you are not going to stop him,

1754
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 1: just like people couldn't stop Tom Brady. So he's gonna

1755
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 1: get thirty, like he's gonna hit thirty. And the only

1756
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 1: way you're gonna beat Buffalo in a neutral game, no

1757
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:07,560
Speaker 1: no bomb cyclones, no blizzards, no zero degree weather like

1758
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: in a neutral game, the only way that you're going

1759
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: to beat Buffalo is if you can hang more points

1760
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 1: on the scoreboard than Daycao. And that means you're not

1761
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 1: going to beat them because we don't have a cyborg.

1762
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 1: Well as of now, well, I'll give you like we're

1763
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 1: not gonna score every time we get the ball. No,

1764
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,719
Speaker 1: but I'm going to dovetail it back to the analytic thing. Okay,

1765
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 1: I have been very complimentary of Belichick's decision to kick

1766
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: a field goal on fourth and one from the nineteen

1767
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 1: yard line to Evans point against Cleveland in a game

1768
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 1: that at that time I would have been very comfortable

1769
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: saying I can win this game. Thirteen three ten, three,

1770
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 1: seventeen ten, something like that. I'll bet anything that Bill

1771
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: on first and goal from the one is thinking against Buffalo. First,

1772
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 1: try to get a touchdown, Well, we'll go for it.

1773
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 1: And fourth and one, yeah, yeah, Because to Tamara's point,

1774
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 1: field goals aren't going to cut it again Buffalo. Right,

1775
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go three at a time and

1776
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: get to the thirties. But if I could get seven

1777
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 1: on the board, and maybe he makes one of those

1778
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 1: mistakes that he's still prone to make occasionally, because he

1779
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 1: tries every play. He never pulls the plug. He always

1780
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,639
Speaker 1: tries to make a play, and all of a sudden

1781
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 1: you get him wrapped up and he tries to throw one.

1782
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 1: He's throw a little off target. Jack Jones picks it off,

1783
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you gotta lead. And that's

1784
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 1: the Patriot's secret sauce. Make make make the opponent Chase.

1785
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 1: I thought of the same thing when Evan brought up

1786
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty two with you know, just always being

1787
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 1: impressed with what the Eagles did, their aggressiveness and everything.

1788
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 1: Evan said, I just think it's funny now that we're

1789
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 1: killing Dan Campbell for going for all the fourth downs,

1790
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 1: and rightly so. But it's just a difference, Yeah, just definitely,

1791
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 1: Like I would never tell somebody down fourth and nine

1792
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 1: from like field goal range to say that it's a

1793
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 1: better chance to go for it the fourth and nine,

1794
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 1: fourth and one, like the Philly Special. Yeah, by all means.

1795
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: But if I kind of questioned that at the time,

1796
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 1: to be honest, Yeah, but if it was Brady, I mean,

1797
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 1: you just like you do understand it a little bit more.

1798
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 1: It's just things have changed now, Like I'm not going

1799
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 1: to go to a game with Brady expecting this is

1800
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 1: the day that Brady's have an off day. I don't

1801
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 1: know if you stupid aggressive against you know, these Patriots now,

1802
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:13,639
Speaker 1: but you know, things have changed if you go back

1803
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 1: to around twenty eighteen, and it probably predates that. Like

1804
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 1: I know, people have done some studies from you know,

1805
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 1: the Kevin Falk fourth and two play on that shows

1806
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:25,360
Speaker 1: that Belichick has really become more conservative like since that

1807
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 1: game in general. Yeah, but I think it's more to

1808
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 1: me at least been more recently, doesn't play Payton Manning anymore. Yeah,

1809
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 1: So around twenty eighteen something flipped with their decision making

1810
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 1: and plus territory or an impota territory on fourth down,

1811
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 1: where now they you're in and year out, are one

1812
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 1: of the most conservative fourth down teams in the league,

1813
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:54,719
Speaker 1: either punting or kicking on fourth down and opponent territory

1814
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 1: on pretty much every fourth down decision. But earlier in

1815
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 1: the year, especially in that Baltimore game, they did go

1816
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: for it on fourth down a couple of times. So

1817
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 1: maybe what it really boils down to is Bill's trust

1818
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 1: in the offense, in his trust in the quarterback, and

1819
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 1: his more maybe stronger trust in the defense and in

1820
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 1: the special teams to do their jobs versus the quarterback

1821
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 1: doing his in the offense doing theirs. So hopefully as

1822
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 1: Mac kind of matures here, that trust grows a little

1823
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 1: bit that he will be more aggressive, but notoriously. And

1824
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 1: it's funny because you look at all these charts that

1825
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 1: kind of grade coaches in those situations, and quite frankly,

1826
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 1: a lot of the coaches that are conservative or older coaches. Right,

1827
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 1: it's Bill, it's Pete Carroll, Like it's like these are

1828
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 1: the guys that are near the bottom. It was Bruce

1829
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 1: Arians before that turned over in Tampa Bay. So I

1830
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 1: do think that there is a difference there in terms of, Okay,

1831
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:49,920
Speaker 1: what Brandon Staley or Dan Campbell or some of these

1832
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,720
Speaker 1: younger coaches are willing to do versus what Bill is

1833
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 1: willing to do on fourth down. And again, it comes

1834
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 1: back to the underdog thing for me, like you're no

1835
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 1: longer the favorite going into a lot of these games.

1836
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 1: You're favorite against the Bears, but you're not going to

1837
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 1: be favorite either time against Buffalo. You're not gonna be

1838
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:09,640
Speaker 1: favored most likely. You know in some of these other

1839
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 1: games later on in the season. You know, I don't

1840
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:14,720
Speaker 1: know Arizona see how they do, or Vegas, but I

1841
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 1: don't know if you're gonna be favorite in Vegas on

1842
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 1: the road late in the season. Those games you have

1843
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:23,720
Speaker 1: to approach a little bit differently, like the Eagles did

1844
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 1: in Super Bowl fifty two, where you know, now you

1845
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 1: are the Eagles, you are no longer the Patriots. You're

1846
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 1: about the confidence in the offense or the defense. Because

1847
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 1: I think you can make an argument if you don't

1848
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 1: have a ton of faith in your defense, you're like

1849
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 1: fourth and three from the opponent forty, Well, let's get

1850
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 1: Jake to knock one out at the five and that

1851
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:49,800
Speaker 1: really helps the defense. Yeah, you know, right, you know,

1852
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 1: if you really feel confident in the offense, like I

1853
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 1: could totally hear it the other way. Like I think

1854
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay one when they kicked the long field

1855
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 1: goal was a lack of faith in the offense at

1856
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 1: the time. I don't think he felt like they would

1857
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 1: get it because they were miserable on third down that night,

1858
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 1: and he was looking at that as why why am

1859
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 1: I going to give them the ball here? You know

1860
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 1: I have a chance to well, even the fourth and

1861
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 1: two play that I gave the ball back to Peyton Manning,

1862
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 1: that was the game's over. Yeah, I know he is,

1863
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 1: you know, emphatically pushed back on that. But that's undeniable.

1864
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 1: Of course it is. He knew that Peyton Manning gets

1865
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 1: the ball back. We ain't stop whether it's whether they

1866
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 1: punt it and it's sixty yards that way, or he's

1867
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:30,320
Speaker 1: got to figure it out. It's a little bit different

1868
01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 1: when you're talking about like you know, let's say the

1869
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:35,639
Speaker 1: thirty to the forty yard line, but when you're inside

1870
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 1: the five, the whole idea, the whole analytics community is

1871
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 1: so forgoing it in those situations because the other team

1872
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 1: then has to drive the ball ninety eight yards. Right,

1873
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 1: So then the idea is Lamart Jackson throws a pick

1874
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 1: in the hand zone, right, So then the idea is

1875
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 1: is that, you know, okay, you're giving them on a

1876
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 1: long field, you get another quick three and out or

1877
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 1: a quick stop. Now they're punting, and now you're right

1878
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 1: right back on first. Right. That's the theory, right, That's

1879
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 1: the sort of equation that they think of. It's like, okay, well,

1880
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 1: if we do our job on defense, then even if

1881
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 1: we don't get it, then we're going to get the

1882
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 1: ball back first and ten from the forty eight yard line.

1883
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 1: Let's call it, and we're right back in business. You know.

1884
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 1: That's the idea of it. And I think that the

1885
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 1: Patriots need to be more like that. I'm not saying

1886
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 1: they need to be brand Stanley or Dan Campbell with it,

1887
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 1: but I think they need to be more aggressive in

1888
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 1: those situations. All Right, a couple of quick phone calls,

1889
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 1: then we have to do picks quickly. Lewis and Rochester.

1890
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 1: What's up, Lewis? Hey, how's it going? Um? I'm a

1891
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 1: big fan of Bailey's appy. Okay, it makes it kind

1892
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:37,759
Speaker 1: of sad because I just bought a mac Jones jersey.

1893
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:41,559
Speaker 1: But well, I think there's something to be said though

1894
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,719
Speaker 1: about the Patriots starting with the ball. I think having

1895
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 1: a much higher chance to win the game if they

1896
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 1: received the first kickoff. Why. I don't know what you

1897
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:54,760
Speaker 1: guys think about that, but yeah, they didn't start with

1898
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:58,959
Speaker 1: the ball on Sunday. I just think they are dominant

1899
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:03,160
Speaker 1: on that first drive. Yeah, I'd like to do the study.

1900
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 1: I think most teams are pretty good on that first drive.

1901
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:07,680
Speaker 1: I think they you know, yeah, well, I think the

1902
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:09,600
Speaker 1: Patriots have been really good on the first drive. But

1903
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 1: I don't care if that's to start the game or

1904
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 1: the second drive of the game, you know what I mean.

1905
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 1: Like if they, like on Sunday, Cleveland got the ball first.

1906
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 1: You just stopped them and it's your first drive, no

1907
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 1: matter when you drove right down the field. Yeah, yeah, definitely,

1908
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 1: and then you get the I like getting the ball

1909
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 1: to get the double. I think it's such an advantage

1910
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 1: mentally to know how that first half is and even

1911
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:32,679
Speaker 1: if you don't get the double score, which is bonus,

1912
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 1: But like I think when there's like four minutes left

1913
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 1: and a team knows the other team's getting the ball,

1914
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 1: I think that puts pressure on you know, like we

1915
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 1: got to score here because they're gonna get the ball

1916
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 1: in right. I mean, and if you're getting the ball,

1917
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 1: if you're in a bad situation, take the knee because

1918
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 1: you know you're getting the ball to start the second half.

1919
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 1: I just loved it when they got the thanks on

1920
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 1: the first drive and it was like we got them

1921
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 1: to stop them. We got an interception already in the game.

1922
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 1: There's a great article if you google middle eight. It

1923
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 1: just put that into google middle eight Belichick and you'll

1924
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:08,639
Speaker 1: get an article on USA football that I can't remember

1925
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:13,160
Speaker 1: who wrote it. I'm sorry, but yeah, four minutes before

1926
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 1: four minutes, right, and that's the that's the theory. And

1927
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 1: this goes back to Cleveland. Michael Lombardi's talked about them

1928
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 1: kind of crafting this theory in Cleveland before. But not

1929
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 1: only is it the four minutes, in four minutes of

1930
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:27,799
Speaker 1: actual game time, you're also keeping the other team's offense

1931
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 1: off the field for real time as well, because you

1932
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 1: got if you got the ball for the last four

1933
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 1: minutes and a half, then you go into the locker

1934
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 1: room for halftime for fifteen minutes and you have it

1935
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 1: to start four minutes. You know, you were talking about

1936
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:42,400
Speaker 1: almost thirty minutes of real time plus of Peyton Manning,

1937
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, you know, sitting on the bench,

1938
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 1: and the idea is that you break the rhythm of

1939
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 1: the opponent by doing it that way. Okay, William and

1940
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 1: Philam what's up? He said, you know what, I'm gonna

1941
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 1: forego Mike call because I know they've got picks and

1942
01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 1: they got to get going. So what is that time

1943
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 1: of the week? Appropriate music this week? Paul? What did

1944
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:09,400
Speaker 1: we do last week? Oh? Just real quick thirty four

1945
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 1: to nineteen in favor of Mac for the week. UM,

1946
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:14,840
Speaker 1: getting a lot a lot of attention to the pole.

1947
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:17,639
Speaker 1: Alex is chiming in on the slack channel, a lot

1948
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 1: of people talking about the my lost pole, my little pole.

1949
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:24,760
Speaker 1: Smart listeners. We have, Yes, I would agree have one

1950
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 1: of the only things we ever agreed on. Um, I'm

1951
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:32,920
Speaker 1: just kidding. So Week seven, we're entering week seven. Uh.

1952
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 1: Here's the results from last week. Mike nine and five,

1953
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 1: so uh, Alex and Paul eight and six, Evans seven

1954
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:46,560
Speaker 1: and seven, and Fred six and eight. I thought I

1955
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 1: would did better than that. Yeah, I picked up would happened?

1956
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:51,640
Speaker 1: I thought? Didn't I pick the Jets? Thought thought he

1957
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 1: laid a fought, but instead he didn't Jets. You picked

1958
01:37:58,360 --> 01:37:59,880
Speaker 1: the Jets with the points, but you did pick it,

1959
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 1: that's to win. I didn't know. I thought I did.

1960
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 1: I thought that was my lock of the week. It

1961
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 1: was not. For with the spread, no surprise here Paul

1962
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:14,639
Speaker 1: nine and five, followed by Mike seven and seven. Nope, sorry,

1963
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 1: followed by Alex eight and six, then Mike at seven

1964
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:21,760
Speaker 1: and seven, Evan and Fred at six and eight. So

1965
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 1: overall season standings, no surprise, fifty eight thirty five and one.

1966
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:30,720
Speaker 1: Paul leads the way, Mike fifty three forty and one,

1967
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 1: only five games behind. Big season for Mike so far yeast,

1968
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:37,760
Speaker 1: and then Fred at fifty forty three and one. Ev

1969
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 1: you're twenty nine and seventeen, not enough games to qualify.

1970
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 1: You're like Bailey Zabby solid numbers. You have a six

1971
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 1: thirty winning percentage. That's a solid number. Right in line

1972
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 1: with the leaders, so you should be proud you can

1973
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 1: hang out with me. Okay in the league and passer

1974
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 1: eting right. Alex is thirty eight and twenty four six thirteen,

1975
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 1: so she's a little bit behind Evan. You know among

1976
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 1: those tomorrow, you're still seven eight and one because you

1977
01:38:59,920 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 1: have participated since week one. She also hasn't heard the

1978
01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 1: practice on. So you get it. You get an incomplete

1979
01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:07,839
Speaker 1: for the semester. All right, we gotta hurry with the spread.

1980
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 1: Paul fifty five. We don't have to hurry this bias

1981
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 1: this week fifty five thirty seven and two, well ahead

1982
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 1: of the pack. Uh. Mike is next at forty six,

1983
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 1: forty six and two. Uh Fred thirty five, fifty seven

1984
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:29,920
Speaker 1: and two. Wow, stop laughing at him, Stop laughing, Paul Parle. Uh.

1985
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:35,679
Speaker 1: Alex thirty thirty one and one, Evan twenty one, twenty

1986
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:39,720
Speaker 1: three and two. Yeah, four seventy eight. Not great, not

1987
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 1: a great against the spread, and I'm knocking on the door.

1988
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 1: Sixty percent through six weeks with the spread. That's really

1989
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:48,600
Speaker 1: I have an enormous fall those betting no one, No

1990
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 1: one can maintain that I have an enormous fall At

1991
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 1: USA dot com like as obnoxious as I come off

1992
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:56,479
Speaker 1: making these picks, it's that's such a fluke. And then

1993
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 1: just nope, nobody can go sixty percent for any length

1994
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:00,800
Speaker 1: of time. You can put that on your resume except

1995
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick in real football games. Well he's more like

1996
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 1: seventy five. Yeah, all right, that's that. That's the number

1997
01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:11,880
Speaker 1: of pro football with Paul Parrello. Yeah, you don't want

1998
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 1: to do that. Um, all right. Tonight eight fifteen, Prime Video,

1999
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 1: the two and four Saints are at the two and

2000
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 1: four Cardinals, Cardinals by two and a half and welcoming

2001
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:26,560
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins back to looking him back and uh and

2002
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson traps into the fold as well. I know

2003
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 1: Arizona has been atrocious. Um, but you know what, I'm

2004
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 1: gonna take them. I'm gonna take them at home and uh,

2005
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 1: I will lay the points. Yeah, I'm also gonna take

2006
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 1: Arizona to both ways. Well, I just feel like they

2007
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:45,120
Speaker 1: are getting Hopkins back, and I think a lot of

2008
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 1: these young quarterbacks, it just changes everything when you have

2009
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 1: your Binkie back, right, I mean he takes Stefon Diggs

2010
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 1: from Josh Allen. You take you know, any of these

2011
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 1: number one guys from a quarterback, and it often looks

2012
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 1: like this, Tomarow, would you like to make picks or

2013
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 1: are you just going to abstain and continue with your

2014
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 1: incomplete for the semester. I think I'm just gonna complete

2015
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:10,599
Speaker 1: my incomplete. Okay, okay, I will take Arizona also, um

2016
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:12,720
Speaker 1: for a lot of the reasons that Evan't said. I

2017
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:14,840
Speaker 1: think Hopkins gives them a lift tonight. At least I'm

2018
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 1: panking on that on my fantasy. I will take the Saints. Okay,

2019
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 1: I will take the Saints. I think they've been despite

2020
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:23,760
Speaker 1: not having a quarterback and all their injuries, I think

2021
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:26,320
Speaker 1: they've been competitive and I give them credits. So I'm

2022
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 1: gonna take the Saints one o'clock on Sunday. The two

2023
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 1: and four Browns are at the three and three Ravens.

2024
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 1: Ravens by six and a half, six and a half,

2025
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 1: and we know what Miles Carrots status currently is. It

2026
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:45,800
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I'm gonna take Baltimore. I'm gonna I'm very

2027
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 1: rock like, it doesn't matter what you uh, Yeah, I'm

2028
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 1: gonna te Baltimore all the points. I think they're good.

2029
01:41:55,320 --> 01:42:00,679
Speaker 1: I'm with Mike Baltimore wins, Baltimore covers Cleveland is Brown disarray.

2030
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:04,760
Speaker 1: I will take Baltimore to win. However, I will take

2031
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:07,040
Speaker 1: the points in a divisional game. I think that's too

2032
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:09,280
Speaker 1: many points in one of these divisional matchups. Yeah, I'm

2033
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:11,719
Speaker 1: gonna take the Ravens both ways. The Patriots have given

2034
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:15,879
Speaker 1: the blueprint to the league for the Browns are one o'clock.

2035
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:20,040
Speaker 1: The three and three Buccaneers are at the one in five.

2036
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 1: Panthers Bucks by ten and a half. Can the Bucks

2037
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:28,519
Speaker 1: score that many points? Man, if this was a couple

2038
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:30,599
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, I'd be taking Tampa and laying the points.

2039
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna take Tampa to win. However, I'm going

2040
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 1: to take those points. I think it'll be a little

2041
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:39,719
Speaker 1: bit closer than ten. You little faith you, I agree

2042
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:42,160
Speaker 1: with Mike. I just don't think Tampa's in a position

2043
01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:43,840
Speaker 1: right now to be a nine and a half point

2044
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 1: favorite against a divisional opponent on the road. I will

2045
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 1: take Tampa both ways. Carolina is in complete. It's more

2046
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:54,559
Speaker 1: of an anti Carolina pick than half support for the Tampa.

2047
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:56,280
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I don't think the Panthers are

2048
01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:59,120
Speaker 1: in a position to compete with anybody, so that's why

2049
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 1: that point mark and despite the Buccaneers not playing well.

2050
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:05,400
Speaker 1: So I'll take the Bucks both ways. One o'clock, the

2051
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:08,759
Speaker 1: three and three Falcons are at the three and three Bengals.

2052
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:12,680
Speaker 1: Bengals buy six and a half. What a surprise from

2053
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 1: Atlanta's disrespect to the Falcons. A little disrespect. Yeah, I'm

2054
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 1: gonna take Sincy to win, but I'm going to take

2055
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 1: the points. I think it'll be close. Marcus Mariotta's playing okay, Yeah,

2056
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to do the same thing. I

2057
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 1: really like Atlanta's two headed moser and offense, Drake London,

2058
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:35,719
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts. It's been good for them. Hopefully get CP

2059
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:39,400
Speaker 1: back eventually. I will take Cincinnati both ways. I think

2060
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 1: the Bengals are very very close. I think they're right

2061
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 1: on the edge of sort of fixing their early season. Malays, Yeah,

2062
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Bengals both ways. Wow, that's stunning. Yeah.

2063
01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:50,080
Speaker 1: You never take sin I know, but I have to.

2064
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:52,160
Speaker 1: I have to. You don't like them, I have to

2065
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:54,120
Speaker 1: get better. Well, that's part of the reason why you're

2066
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:55,599
Speaker 1: in this hole is you only pick what you want

2067
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:58,040
Speaker 1: to happen instead of what you think. That's true, but

2068
01:43:58,200 --> 01:44:01,400
Speaker 1: usually I'm good with defending you there because it usually

2069
01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 1: works for me. One o'clock the one bit pick. The

2070
01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:07,840
Speaker 1: one and four Lions are at the four and two Cowboys.

2071
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:12,559
Speaker 1: Dallas by seven seven and Dak Dak is back. Dak

2072
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 1: is back. Uh yeah, I think I think Detroit's done.

2073
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Dallas. Um, but yeah, I don't know,

2074
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 1: call me crazy. I'm gonna take the points for Detroit.

2075
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:23,519
Speaker 1: I think maybe they get they put up some points

2076
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:26,160
Speaker 1: in this one. Um, and maybe Dallas isn't quite ready

2077
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 1: for get right back into it just yet. I like

2078
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 1: Dallas both ways. Yeah, me too. I think that Dallas

2079
01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:36,519
Speaker 1: defense will be a little upset after allowing that last

2080
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 1: drive to Jalen Hurts last week. I think they win big.

2081
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:42,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Cowboys both ways as well.

2082
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 1: One o'clock five and one Giants are at the two

2083
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 1: and four Jaguars. That feels so weird to hear that

2084
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:54,840
Speaker 1: Giants by three. Three? Um wow, old place, old place?

2085
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:58,639
Speaker 1: That is that Jacksonville by tax because I have minus

2086
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 1: three but it just does don't make any sense to me.

2087
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:04,840
Speaker 1: But Jacksonville's favorite by three? Are they? Yeah? Jacksonville by three?

2088
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 1: What what's going on? What are the Sharps know? They

2089
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 1: don't believe in the Giants clearly, as Jim Donaldson would say, clearly,

2090
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:15,840
Speaker 1: clearly make that a for syllable. But I'm gonna go

2091
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:19,720
Speaker 1: with the Giants on the road in Florida. I'll take

2092
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 1: the points. I'm gonna I'm gonna call it an upset,

2093
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 1: even though Vegas doesn't think it's an upset. I'm taken

2094
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. I am wow. I think that I believe

2095
01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 1: in Vegas that the Giants are not for real. Like

2096
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:37,160
Speaker 1: I think this is going to catch up to them eventually,

2097
01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 1: like Daniel Jones is gonna be Daniel Jones at some point,

2098
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 1: and the Jaguars defense has been good enough that it

2099
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 1: could happen this week. I agree with everything Evan just said.

2100
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 1: I don't believe in the Giants. I think they've had

2101
01:45:47,439 --> 01:45:50,160
Speaker 1: one lucky thing after another happened every one of these games,

2102
01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 1: and they're finding a way. They're well coached, and they're fighting.

2103
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 1: I don't think they're very good. However, I gotta take them. Yeah,

2104
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna. I've I think I've lost every game that

2105
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 1: I've picked them this year. When they lose I'll start

2106
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:06,519
Speaker 1: picking against them again. They have something going here. I'm

2107
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:08,479
Speaker 1: going to pick the Giant. I'm surprised with the spread.

2108
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:10,200
Speaker 1: It gives me an out because I was going to

2109
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:12,640
Speaker 1: pick the Jaguars both ways. But now I'll pick the

2110
01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:15,680
Speaker 1: Jaguars to win. But I'll take the Giants to uh

2111
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:18,639
Speaker 1: but they won't cover. So this gives me an out

2112
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:23,200
Speaker 1: that I didn't expect. Um. One o'clock, the three two

2113
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:26,519
Speaker 1: and one Colts are at the three and two Titans,

2114
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:30,400
Speaker 1: which they get an indoor stadium in Nashville because they

2115
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 1: want a super Bowl. I would think, right, I guess, yeah,

2116
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 1: a good place for it. It's a great place for

2117
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:37,679
Speaker 1: a super Bowl. That that street will be like Bourbon Street.

2118
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 1: It'll be won't even be able to move. Yeah, do

2119
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 1: karaoke again by the time it gets there, though, Mike,

2120
01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 1: I'll be too old too. I'm already on the edge,

2121
01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:53,400
Speaker 1: you know. Ten o'clock, but it's wid Yeah, will be

2122
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 1: out with us. We went karaoke. U uh. Tennessee by

2123
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:00,840
Speaker 1: two and a half. Gotta get there good times. Um,

2124
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:03,799
Speaker 1: that's a tough one. And I'm a fan of Tennessee,

2125
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:05,599
Speaker 1: but I just feel like the wheels are falling off

2126
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:08,760
Speaker 1: the bus there. Uh, and so I think I'm gonna go.

2127
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Indie and Matt Ryan throwing on

2128
01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:14,680
Speaker 1: the road. I'll take those points. The wheels on the

2129
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 1: bus are falling. Derek Henry, you can't run no more.

2130
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:22,640
Speaker 1: That might be true. Derrick Henry is on on my

2131
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:28,120
Speaker 1: wash washed watch list five times fast. I can't. That's

2132
01:47:28,160 --> 01:47:31,200
Speaker 1: why I stumbled on the first time. I say Max

2133
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:35,920
Speaker 1: that being said very slowly. I'm gonna take the Titans.

2134
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:42,000
Speaker 1: The Titans, says Evan. I will take Oh, I'm gonna

2135
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:45,160
Speaker 1: take the Colts. Don't really have any in depth reason

2136
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 1: as to why. I do think they may have found

2137
01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:49,880
Speaker 1: something last week with the past protection. They threw its

2138
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:52,559
Speaker 1: sixty two times and didn't get sacked at all. They

2139
01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:54,599
Speaker 1: went a little bit tempo, and I think that helped

2140
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:57,400
Speaker 1: them a little bit. Jonathan Taylor sounds like he's close

2141
01:47:57,439 --> 01:48:00,280
Speaker 1: to returning. Maybe they found some balance on all offense

2142
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:04,040
Speaker 1: with playing without him. I'll take the Colts. I don't

2143
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 1: know why, but the Colts is starting to annoy me.

2144
01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:08,719
Speaker 1: Cults are annoying friends. I don't know why. But who's

2145
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:12,200
Speaker 1: at eleven? Yeah, there's a shock the Coults are annoying.

2146
01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:14,760
Speaker 1: You're annoying. They're annoying me A buck for every time

2147
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:17,040
Speaker 1: you said that since like oh one, Yeah, so I'm

2148
01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:19,000
Speaker 1: gonna take the Titans to win this game. Why are

2149
01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:20,920
Speaker 1: they annoying you? And I feel like that pick is

2150
01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:25,720
Speaker 1: gonna bite you weird Paul Paul said that you're picking. Yeah,

2151
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:29,280
Speaker 1: he might have to do it. One o'clock, the three

2152
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 1: and three Packers are at the two and four Commanders,

2153
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 1: green Bay by four and a half, four and a half.

2154
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 1: It just is I mean, oh, I just like to

2155
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:43,720
Speaker 1: say that, Taylor Haneke, Yeah, exactly. That changes things. That's

2156
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:45,720
Speaker 1: why I'll be taking the point. Yeah, yeah, I know

2157
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 1: I tempted to take those points, but I'm still not

2158
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 1: going to. I think Green Bay, as bad as they've looked,

2159
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:54,280
Speaker 1: I just can't pick the Commanders with a backup quarterback

2160
01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take and wow, no faith in the backup. So.

2161
01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 1: I know that he had this finger in jury that's

2162
01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 1: causing him to miss a couple of games, but that

2163
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:05,800
Speaker 1: Thursday Night tape of Carson Wentz playing quarterback was the

2164
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:08,800
Speaker 1: worst quarterback tape I've seen all season. You can go

2165
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:10,719
Speaker 1: back and watch the Thursday night game or the Saturday

2166
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:13,120
Speaker 1: night game against the Patriots last year. Yeah, it was.

2167
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 1: It was up there, same guy. I mean, guys five

2168
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:19,479
Speaker 1: yards away from him, open underneath the defense, and it's

2169
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:23,000
Speaker 1: it's rifled at their hands, you know, outside their frame,

2170
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:25,400
Speaker 1: and it's deflecting in the air. And it was. It

2171
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:29,639
Speaker 1: was horrible. But that being said, I think eventually green

2172
01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 1: Bay has to find a couple of wins here. So

2173
01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Packers. I'm gonna take him to cover.

2174
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:37,639
Speaker 1: I just I like green Bay in this game. Yeah,

2175
01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:41,080
Speaker 1: I agree about green Bay. I don't think they're very good.

2176
01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:43,479
Speaker 1: I said that after the Patriots game. I still don't

2177
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 1: think they're very good, but they're better than this. Yeah.

2178
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 1: I think they'll they'll go on the road and at

2179
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:49,479
Speaker 1: least get a win here. But I'll take the four

2180
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:51,720
Speaker 1: and a half I'll take. I think Heineke gives them

2181
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:54,160
Speaker 1: a little bit of juice. I think he moves around

2182
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:56,519
Speaker 1: well and could cause some problems. I don't think he's

2183
01:49:56,600 --> 01:49:58,760
Speaker 1: very good, but for a game or two, you can

2184
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:01,800
Speaker 1: cause your problems. Think they're better than they've been playing,

2185
01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:05,240
Speaker 1: but after this game, we may not be so convinced

2186
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 1: of that. But I'm gonna stick with him for one

2187
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:11,479
Speaker 1: more game. Packers cover four oh five. The four and

2188
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:14,840
Speaker 1: two Jets are at the two and four Broncos. Of

2189
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 1: course the Broncos are home. Of course they are Denver

2190
01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:21,880
Speaker 1: by one one. This is a Russell Wilson limited. This

2191
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:24,479
Speaker 1: is a game that could be in the negatives. Someone

2192
01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:26,800
Speaker 1: could win this game like negative three to negative seven.

2193
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 1: I think Russell's gonna be okay, at least that's what

2194
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 1: he said. Um, this is just a spite pick. I'm

2195
01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:33,920
Speaker 1: gonna take Denver. I feel like it's a pick them.

2196
01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:37,679
Speaker 1: I'll take him, and I'll lay the point. I'm gonna

2197
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:40,599
Speaker 1: take the Jets. I can take the Jets on the road.

2198
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:42,880
Speaker 1: I think the one thing about the Jets that seems

2199
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 1: legitimate is their defense, and the one thing that seems

2200
01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 1: legitimate about the Broncos at their offense sticks. So I'm

2201
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:51,479
Speaker 1: taking the Jets your offense legitimately. I think you could

2202
01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 1: say the same about both teams. I think both teams

2203
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:57,240
Speaker 1: have a legitimate defense and that both of their offenses

2204
01:50:57,360 --> 01:51:01,200
Speaker 1: are struggling. I will take Denver here. I hope Evans right.

2205
01:51:01,280 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 1: This is one of those talk radio things. I think

2206
01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 1: a five and two Jets game next week. We'd give

2207
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:07,679
Speaker 1: us a fun week to talk about that game. Four

2208
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:10,040
Speaker 1: and three Patriots at the five and two Jets. It's

2209
01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 1: a real game. It's a real game. Yeah. But I

2210
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 1: also think that if both teams are four and three

2211
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:17,680
Speaker 1: going into next week, that's two, then the bloom's off.

2212
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:19,800
Speaker 1: The Jets rose and they are what we thought, but

2213
01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:22,720
Speaker 1: now the Patriots have a chance to leap frog over them. Well,

2214
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:24,320
Speaker 1: just win the game and you'd be ahead of them

2215
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:29,000
Speaker 1: because of the correct Yeah. Yes, this is a tough checkers.

2216
01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 1: This is a tough like advanced analytics there. You just

2217
01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:35,680
Speaker 1: I'd rather be down nine. Yeah, this is a tough one.

2218
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:39,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Broncos only because I want them

2219
01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 1: to win, but I was tempted to take the Jets. Yeah,

2220
01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:48,479
Speaker 1: I just just to repeat, just to repeat, thirty five

2221
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:51,000
Speaker 1: fifty seven in two. I feel like this is one

2222
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:54,720
Speaker 1: of those like up moments. No, but to marry You

2223
01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 1: don't understand that what he does. But that's why we

2224
01:51:57,200 --> 01:51:59,799
Speaker 1: beat him every year, and he has so many agenda.

2225
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:04,640
Speaker 1: Last years, I've had very good records, that's true. You

2226
01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:08,599
Speaker 1: know you had a good record once. It's such a fraud,

2227
01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:11,679
Speaker 1: such a fraud. Don't make me go and get my notebooks.

2228
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 1: I have really good young cornerback matchup. Not that they

2229
01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 1: play against them one another, but do you think Sauce

2230
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 1: good is pretty good? Probably two of the best young

2231
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:25,560
Speaker 1: quarters in the league. Sauce versus Trick certain certain is

2232
01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:28,200
Speaker 1: I think probably the best young corner and he's really good,

2233
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 1: unbelievable player. Yeah, all right, four or five? One, three

2234
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:35,479
Speaker 1: and one Texans. Jack Easterby no longer with us at

2235
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:39,920
Speaker 1: the one and four Raiders um Raiders by seven. Did

2236
01:52:39,960 --> 01:52:43,120
Speaker 1: you happen to see Mount Mount Cooks had a pretty

2237
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:49,840
Speaker 1: good backing for Jack Easterby. Never been nothing but but

2238
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:53,320
Speaker 1: forthcoming with us and pleasure to deal with something. I

2239
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:56,280
Speaker 1: read the whole John mccle Really surprising that John McClinton

2240
01:52:57,760 --> 01:53:01,840
Speaker 1: little fingers, he's bad news used to be. But Raiders

2241
01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:03,920
Speaker 1: by seven, Raiders by seven. That is a one win

2242
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 1: team favored by seven over probably the worst team in

2243
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:10,720
Speaker 1: the league. Maybe I gotta go with the fighting josh Is.

2244
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:12,840
Speaker 1: Give me the fighting Joshes and I'm gonna lay the points.

2245
01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 1: Big win for the Raiders. Let's go. Yeah, I think

2246
01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:19,080
Speaker 1: the Raiders win, But that's too many points. So I'll

2247
01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:21,599
Speaker 1: take the Raiders and I'll take Houston to cover. Yeah,

2248
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:23,200
Speaker 1: I have to admit that's what I thought when I

2249
01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:24,600
Speaker 1: saw it. But I'm going to roll the dice and

2250
01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:26,720
Speaker 1: lay the points. I think the Raiders coming off the

2251
01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:30,000
Speaker 1: buy maybe get right John Well, yeah, to get right

2252
01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:33,040
Speaker 1: game good good, Mike Sharp, the Sharks know something. Raiders

2253
01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 1: cover four twenty five. The three and three Seahawks are

2254
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:41,479
Speaker 1: at the four and two Chargers charges by six and

2255
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 1: a half. Six and a half. That sounds about right. Um. Yeah,

2256
01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:48,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Justin Herbert. I think they've kind

2257
01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 1: of overcome some of those injuries. They held the fort,

2258
01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:52,599
Speaker 1: they're still you know now, I'm ever going to play again?

2259
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:56,000
Speaker 1: He said no this week, really never again. I'll never

2260
01:53:56,120 --> 01:53:58,439
Speaker 1: play again. I'll lay the points, Paul, I'll take the

2261
01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:02,479
Speaker 1: Charges and lay the points. Great quarterback matchup, the fighting

2262
01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:07,080
Speaker 1: Genos versus Justin Herbert. I love it. I'm gonna take

2263
01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:12,759
Speaker 1: the Chargers though. I think that Justin Herbert is quickly

2264
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:16,439
Speaker 1: climbing up that ranking of elite quarterbacks in this league.

2265
01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 1: Maybe haven't at like five or six right now. So

2266
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:21,800
Speaker 1: you're lay in the points too. Yeah, yeah, I agree

2267
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:23,800
Speaker 1: with you on Herbert, but there's something missing that I

2268
01:54:23,880 --> 01:54:26,280
Speaker 1: can't figure out why he doesn't win more. Um. Yeah,

2269
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:28,960
Speaker 1: it's a good point. But I will take the Chargers

2270
01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:30,479
Speaker 1: to win this game, and I will take the point

2271
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:34,120
Speaker 1: six and a half against the Chargers. They haven't. That's

2272
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:36,040
Speaker 1: another one of those teams, like you know, people just

2273
01:54:36,120 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 1: like well you oh with your record, Like I don't

2274
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 1: think they look like a four and two team. Yeah,

2275
01:54:39,520 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm I'm with you, Paul, Charges win, but

2276
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 1: they do not cover four twenty five, four and two.

2277
01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 1: Chiefs are at the three and three forty nine Ers

2278
01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:51,640
Speaker 1: screwed me last year week Chiefs by three. Wait who

2279
01:54:51,720 --> 01:54:56,240
Speaker 1: super Bowl rematch here? Yeah? I got no beat on

2280
01:54:56,320 --> 01:54:58,360
Speaker 1: the Niners. But I'm gonna go to Kansas City on

2281
01:54:58,400 --> 01:55:00,400
Speaker 1: the road. Ray, Did you hear what I mean? Said that?

2282
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 1: What super Bowl rematch? Yeah? Nineteen it's a rematch when

2283
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 1: he says it, when his new little pet, Michael I said,

2284
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:13,839
Speaker 1: it's not a rematch? Really isn't. It's not the same players,

2285
01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:16,320
Speaker 1: it's not a rematch. I get it. The new kid

2286
01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:19,240
Speaker 1: gets away with anything I get. I'm giving him. I'll

2287
01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:22,960
Speaker 1: give him a season and then and then yes please,

2288
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:27,680
Speaker 1: I like Casey to bounce back from last week. So yeah,

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01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 1: I like yeah. Is San Francisco still missing all those

2290
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:33,040
Speaker 1: defensive players? Do you see that that they had? They

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01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:36,400
Speaker 1: had ten of their projected starters not play last week

2292
01:55:36,440 --> 01:55:39,200
Speaker 1: in that game on defense? Um, I think they were

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01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:41,840
Speaker 1: playing the Patriots, right, I will say yeah? I mean,

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01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 1: am I right? Kansas City both ways? I think it's

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01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:48,680
Speaker 1: INCREDI Kansas City both ways is correct? Um? I love

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01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 1: when Frank gives you the stand provement. Eight twenty Sunday

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01:55:52,520 --> 01:55:56,320
Speaker 1: night on every three. Uh, the two and four Steelers

2298
01:55:56,440 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 1: are at the three and three Dolphins. Uh, two is back.

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01:56:01,920 --> 01:56:03,720
Speaker 1: I don't know how long that will last. I have

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01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 1: some concerns Miami by seven seven, Um, if he's okay, Yeah,

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01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:11,480
Speaker 1: I think Miami could make it a little bit of

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01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:13,440
Speaker 1: a run me too. I'm gonna go with Miami and

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01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:16,880
Speaker 1: how many. I'm gonna drop some points too, I'm gonna yeah,

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01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lay him. I'm with Yeah, I'm with Miami

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01:56:20,080 --> 01:56:22,320
Speaker 1: both ways. Yeah. I'm gonna bank on two of being

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01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:24,600
Speaker 1: able to make it through this game, and if he does,

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01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:27,160
Speaker 1: I think they'll cover. I AMMI both ways trending for

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01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:31,040
Speaker 1: a perfect week for me. Um, I'm I'm gonna go

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01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:35,240
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins, but they do not cover. They do

2310
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 1: not cover. All right, Monday Night, have a Spike pick there.

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01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:41,760
Speaker 1: We don't have to skip over the Patriots because they're

2312
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:44,400
Speaker 1: the only show in town on Monday. The two and

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01:56:44,520 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 1: four Bears are here in Foxborough against the three and

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01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:51,120
Speaker 1: three Patriots. Okay, I do not have the latest numbers

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01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 1: that you guys are talking about. I have Patriots by

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01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:55,640
Speaker 1: seven and a half, which is what it was on Sunday,

2317
01:56:55,760 --> 01:56:57,720
Speaker 1: So all right, every day I've seen seven and a

2318
01:56:57,760 --> 01:56:59,560
Speaker 1: half could be fourteen and a half and I'd still

2319
01:56:59,600 --> 01:57:01,280
Speaker 1: take the Yeah. No, but I mean I think it

2320
01:57:01,440 --> 01:57:05,280
Speaker 1: was like nine or something, So I see, we'll go

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01:57:06,520 --> 01:57:10,200
Speaker 1: af I'm I'm all Patriots on this one. Paul randomly

2322
01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:12,400
Speaker 1: came up with the same score before the TV shows out.

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01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with that, twenty seven six. I think

2324
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:20,360
Speaker 1: Patriots have a uh they don't let justin fields and

2325
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:24,080
Speaker 1: that offense too much. Twenty seven six. So sneak preview

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01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:26,360
Speaker 1: and our expert picks. I took twenty four to seven

2327
01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:31,200
Speaker 1: Patriots because my prediction was Bailey, No, was that maybe

2328
01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:33,680
Speaker 1: Mac has some rust in the first half. It takes

2329
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:35,960
Speaker 1: some a couple of drives to get back in rhythm

2330
01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:40,640
Speaker 1: and uh, and they rolled a second half. But on paper,

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01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:43,200
Speaker 1: this should be like forty five to seven, right, Like

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01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 1: this should be an absolute party at Gilatte Stadium on

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01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:48,880
Speaker 1: Monday night on paper. And I think it would be

2334
01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:51,440
Speaker 1: cool if that is the case and Mac goes out

2335
01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:55,080
Speaker 1: there and throws four tds and three hundred yards and

2336
01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:58,160
Speaker 1: everybody forgets about Zappie Fever. But I don't know if

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01:57:58,160 --> 01:58:01,920
Speaker 1: that one never be here. Man, I love it. I

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01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:04,400
Speaker 1: love it, mack Man. It's gonna be a lot of

2339
01:58:04,520 --> 01:58:07,040
Speaker 1: a lot of fair Weather fans. Oh yeah, we would

2340
01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:09,480
Speaker 1: be all along, Mac, we had you back. There's gonna

2341
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 1: be some split like jersey slash t shirts with like oh,

2342
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:17,400
Speaker 1: I got to talk to Stacey about the Zappy jerseys.

2343
01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 1: Did you hear about that yesterday? Now, I will take

2344
01:58:19,960 --> 01:58:21,880
Speaker 1: the Patriots big in this. Mike already said that I

2345
01:58:21,960 --> 01:58:24,760
Speaker 1: had and I had the same score twenty seven to six.

2346
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:28,800
Speaker 1: I don't see any way that Chicago has to keep

2347
01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:31,560
Speaker 1: up offensively even if the Patriots don't play, even if

2348
01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:33,720
Speaker 1: there is rust. I have a prediction by I can't

2349
01:58:33,800 --> 01:58:37,360
Speaker 1: move by Monday night, that spread's gonna be eleven because

2350
01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:39,440
Speaker 1: the New England money is just gonna keep coming in

2351
01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:42,560
Speaker 1: and they're gonna need to get even and out. It's

2352
01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:47,120
Speaker 1: gonna be hard. Uh yeah, Patriots both ways. So that's

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01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:49,880
Speaker 1: it for this edition of Patriots and scrambled down or

2354
01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:51,960
Speaker 1: right down? Fritz pick I didn't know what he was. Yeah,

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01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:55,080
Speaker 1: I just want shut up. I just want to remind

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01:58:55,160 --> 01:58:59,280
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Speaker 1: favorite Patriots players on NFL allday dot com. So we've

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01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:21,960
Speaker 1: got the pregame show, are we doing that money on

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01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:25,320
Speaker 1: Monday sixty eight? Then we get the game, then the

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01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:28,240
Speaker 1: postgame show. We'll be back on a friend of the

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01:59:28,280 --> 01:59:30,440
Speaker 1: postgame show this week. Get a home game. That's right,

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01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:33,640
Speaker 1: all right, so you look forward to that. Thanks for listening.

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01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:36,760
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for John Rook in the playbook Thank you

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01:59:36,840 --> 01:59:40,400
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