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Speaker 1: and welcome in. I think you'll love today's podcast. I

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Speaker 1: really do. Dave wantstat coach the Bears, his thoughts on

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh he's got the inside scoop. He and Harbaugh have

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Speaker 1: been closed for years, but first fate questions real answers.

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Speaker 1: There's stuff I want to talk about and don't want

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Speaker 1: to wait for you to ask me the question, Dear Colin,

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Speaker 1: why didn't things work out between Harbaugh and the Vikings?

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Speaker 1: He appeared to have the job well. I think one

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Speaker 1: of the things that is key here. Older generations in

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Speaker 1: The younger generation of coaches, you hear things like create

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Speaker 1: a comfortable, open workspace. And a keyword is collaboration. Right now,

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Speaker 1: people view collaborators. Jim Harbaugh, older generation, not really a collaborator.

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Speaker 1: Brian Flores fired three coordinators in three years, not known

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Speaker 1: Right now, Sean McVay, his coaching tree already has five

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Speaker 1: current coaches in it because like McVeigh, they're all collaborative.

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Speaker 1: Dear Colin, you'd think billionaires would be smart. Can you

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Speaker 1: explain why an NFL owner and possibly too, could consider

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Speaker 1: they're smart, guys. I think it's hard to be a

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Speaker 1: positives with wealth. The downside, you lose touch with reality,

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Speaker 1: statistically it's hard enough to get a job forget being

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Speaker 1: Flores clearly had different value and beliefs. Dear Colin, what's

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Speaker 1: constantly changing. It's the old Seinfeld line. Am I rooting

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Speaker 1: But these are all businesses, including college football and college basketball.

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Speaker 1: And what has killed college basketball. It has become true detective,

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Speaker 1: controversial take ever? Oh, I'll tell you what it is.

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Speaker 1: Our government's got to test our stuff. Where are they

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Speaker 1: You have exceptional receiving talent Dante Johnson, Chase Claypool, Juju Smith, Schuster.

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Speaker 1: You have a rookie tight end who looks like he

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Speaker 1: could be a star, Nause Harris. I thought he was

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Speaker 1: better than I suspected. The defense has led the NFL

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Speaker 1: and sacks for five years, and Mike Tomlin is a

427
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,239
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame coach. You have historically a very good

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Speaker 1: front office. You do not have a quarterback in that

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Speaker 1: room that is good enough to win multiple playoff games.

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Speaker 1: Let me throw this at you. You run the Steelers.

431
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: You're from Pittsburgh, Jimmy Garoppolo two years Haskins behind him.

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Speaker 1: We will draft a quarterback over the next two years

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Speaker 1: or make a deal for one. But because of Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo's injury history, Dave, you don't have to give up

435
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Speaker 1: much for him. In fact, if the Niners could get

436
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Speaker 1: Joe Hayden, a corner for Garoppolo and a fifth round pick,

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00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: that maybe it. Because I believe Garoppolo. Listen, Kyle Shanahan's

438
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: record is awful without him. You can say what you want, Dave.

439
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: If you have surrounding talent, you can win a lot

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00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: of games with Jimmy. I got proof. Would you give

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00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: him a role for two years knowing his injury history?

442
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: I would Because of the situation that pittsburgher's in. I

443
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: don't you know. I agree with you're Mason, Rudolph and Haskins.

444
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: I don't think they believe any of those guys can play.

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00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: They definitely have to sign someone or draft them. Here

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00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: here's the biggest problem I have with that thought is

447
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: the San Francisco Rides the ball and they take they

448
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: run an offense. In my opinion that's about as quarterback

449
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: friendly as anybody in the NFL. Yeah right, Pittsburgh, even

450
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: with Nigi Harris the running back, who I think is

451
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: a star, they really haven't committed to running the football.

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00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: I know they did the last game or two, but

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Speaker 1: leading into the last four games of the season, they

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Speaker 1: were in the bottom four with a number of attempts.

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00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: So I think it could be disastrous for Jimmy Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: to go to a team like Pittsburgh or anywhere where

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00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: they are not going to be at least a balanced

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00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: run team. At least a balanced run team. Otherwise you're

459
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: not being fair to him and you're not being fair

460
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: to your team. He's got to be in a quarterback

461
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: friendly offense for a couple of years until you get

462
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: somebody younger and move on down the road. That would

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00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: be my opinion. Maybe not as much with Jimmy. We

464
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Speaker 1: know what we get with Jimmy, but how are we

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Speaker 1: going to protect him? How are we going to give

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Speaker 1: him the best chance to be successful. We got to

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Speaker 1: run the bit. It's gotta be a quarterback friendly offense,

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Speaker 1: just like San Francisco done. You know what I mean,

469
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Speaker 1: and I'd love well, it's hard for me to even

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Speaker 1: say that Pittsburgh might not be that type of team

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Speaker 1: because everybody up there since I was born talked about

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Speaker 1: running the ball and being physical. But it's sure he

473
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Speaker 1: hasn't happened the last couple of years. I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about another team, you know, so we've talked Dolphins, Bears, Steelers,

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00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: let's go to the Cowboys. Those four teams. You have

476
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: great insight on nothing you don't otherwise, but those four.

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Speaker 1: So I have seen multiple occasions where Mike McCarthy struggles

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Speaker 1: with clock management. He's an offensive guy. I understood Herm.

479
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: Edwards as a defensive guy for years kind of struggling

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Speaker 1: with clock management. Take me to your career. I don't

481
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: remember Dave Wanstat struggling with clock management. In the case

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Speaker 1: of Mike McCarthy, I almost wonder if he should if

483
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: they should take it out of his hands. I think

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00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: at one point Herm Edwards hired somebody to worry about

485
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Speaker 1: clock management for you in your career, right because you

486
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: were a guy that you kind of let the offense.

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00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: You wanted to run the football, but you you were

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00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: what I would call a walk around coach. You went

489
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: from unit to unit, you coached coaches. Is clock management

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00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: that difficult? Well we did. I'll tell you my first

491
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: year up there, because I knew the responsibility that I had.

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Speaker 1: We took one half a day at training camp with

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Speaker 1: the entire staff and I had my young coaches pull

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00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: out every two minute drill successful and non successful as

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Speaker 1: the NFL had, and we put him on a tape

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Speaker 1: and we came on that meeting with what a team's doing? Well,

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Speaker 1: when did they start using their time outs? In other

498
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: words like the John Montana's and Dan Marino was the

499
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: best in the business back then. I mean Montana was

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00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: the best and they didn't even Bill Walsh. They didn't

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00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: think of calling a time out unless there was forty

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00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: five seconds or less. They would let it go. So

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Speaker 1: if there was a minute, they were running plays. And

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00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: so we came up with a script of this is

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00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: when we want to call the time outs, this is

506
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: when we don't obviously, this is when we can take

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00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: a knee and with one time out, with two time outs.

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00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: So it was not anybody up there or me trying

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Speaker 1: to think about it. I mean we had a document

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00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: it and and yes, there are some gut decisions. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that, you know, depending on the score of

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00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,239
Speaker 1: the game. I get that, but and then then then

513
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Speaker 1: so I always had. It was like Mike Schuler was

514
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Speaker 1: my quarterback coach and he was my tight end coach

515
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: at the Bears. He was my quarterback coach at the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: And Mike was really smart and he he was my

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Speaker 1: guy when we got down to that situation, Mike company

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00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: plays that we got to run before we can run

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Speaker 1: the clock out, Mike coach were coming up on a minute,

520
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: we got to get ready for the no hurry. I mean,

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00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: he was always the guy, and I welcomed that. Now

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Speaker 1: I had a philosophy two that when we were not

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Speaker 1: going to give the team the ball back before the half,

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Speaker 1: I don't give a darn. I mean, if there was

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00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: two minutes, I'd take a knee and before I'd take

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Speaker 1: a chance of drop him back and throwing three and

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00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: complay passes and and and giving Brett Barb the ball

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Speaker 1: at the forty five yard line and let them kick

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Speaker 1: a field goal. I didn't I wanted to go in

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Speaker 1: with the momentum at half time. That was just my

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Speaker 1: personal ca So that's interesting. So Andy Reid he with

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Speaker 1: five seconds left. See, I didn't like it, and I

533
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: love Andy runs a play and my takeaway is this,

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00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: I want the field goal. I want to go into

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Speaker 1: the locker room with a twenty four to three lead

536
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: and my guy's going we got him, and I want

537
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: the Bengals going into the locker room thinking, you know, day,

538
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Speaker 1: I didn't like kid at all, and I love Andy.

539
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: What did you make of it? One hundred percent to

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00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: agree with you? I mean that was for me and

541
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Speaker 1: the way I would look at it, I'm with you

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00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I mean, you want to go in

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00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: in a big game like that, You're always trying to

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00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: keep the momentum, particularly when you got the league, particularly

545
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: when you got the league. You want to want to

546
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: keep keep your foot on the pedal. How can you

547
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: best keep your foot on the pedal get three more points?

548
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: You know, create that separation even more so? Uh No,

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00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: I agree with you on that, but so so so.

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00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: I never really had a problem with with with clock

551
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Speaker 1: management because I had someone who we had talked everything through,

552
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: and we knew what we wanted to do from a

553
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: philosophy standpoint, and they knew me I mean, you know,

554
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: I remember chan Gaily and we get the ball at

555
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 1: Miami and every two minutes to go, and I said,

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00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: let's run it and go in at halftime. You'd say, sure,

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00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: you're sure, you don't want to throw a pass here,

558
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: and I said, no, let's use you know, if they

559
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Speaker 1: want to use your time out, but you got the

560
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: lead or it's tie, let's go in at halftime and regroup.

561
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: I was conservative, and another reason why I'm sitting here

562
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: talking to you and probably not coaching. But that's just

563
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: what I believed in because we trust me. It worked

564
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: out in our favor heck of a lot more than

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00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: it didn't. So Jim Harbaugh interviews for the Vikings job

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Speaker 1: doesn't get it goes back to Michigan on signing day.

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00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: By the way, Dave, you have a rare perspective, and

568
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: so would Jimmy. You coach college and pro right now,

569
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: there are there is more structure and control over personnel

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00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL with millionaires than there is with college

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Speaker 1: due to the transfer portal. And I believe you can't

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Speaker 1: have any in season integrity with your roster. A player

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00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: could leave week to week like in the NFL. You've

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Speaker 1: got a trading deadline in a free agency period. I

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00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: think part of Hardball, maybe it's a small part. I

576
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: think this transfer portal is so out of control with

577
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: no guardrails. I think you're going to see more college guys.

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00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: My opinion go pro. I think Hardball wants to get

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00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: back to the NFL. I think he wanted the Vikings job. Oh,

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00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: I know I've been corresponding. Fact I was texting with

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Speaker 1: Jim last night. You know, I wanted to see the

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Speaker 1: Bears interview him, and I said this on and I

583
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: got everything Buddy in Chicago start up a month ago,

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Speaker 1: and I said, you know, I said, you don't have

585
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: to hire him, but I would bring Jim in and

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00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: talk to him. And my big thing with Jim Harbaugh

587
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: and maybe people look at the offense he runs as

588
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: a dinosaur offense, old school, but at least when Jim

589
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: walks in the door, there's an identity there. Yes, you

590
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: know what you're getting, right. So, but the Bears had

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Speaker 1: no interest and he played for Bill Pollian, and Bill

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00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: Pollion was part of the Actually okay, fine, So then

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00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: the whole thing was signing day. I said this on

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Speaker 1: the air Tuesday morning in Chicago. On my radio show,

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00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: I said, guys, Jim is going to Minnesota. It's over.

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00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: And he told me that, mister Ross, this is a

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00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: month ago, you know, because of a Michigan thing that

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00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: he was not going to do anything in Miami. He

599
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: didn't feel good about that, but I said, he's going

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Speaker 1: to Minnesota. You know how big signing day is, and

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Speaker 1: I know most of these kids are signed early, but

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00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: signing day is kind of the one day where college

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00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: coaches are high five in each other, up and down

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00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: the halls, being in a they bring in big breakfast,

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00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: and the recruits are calling in and you're putting the

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00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: names up on the board. This is our new depth chart.

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00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: It'sn't exciting. And then that night to go out and

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00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: all the alumni have rallies and the head coach says,

609
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: this is our final class. National signing day is a

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00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: real exciting, important time. And for Jim not to be there,

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00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean, they love him, and I obviously I love Jim,

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00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: but boy, I'll tell you what a lot of places

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Speaker 1: he would would have been a real problem that drew

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Speaker 1: up an interviewing the night before on signing date. I mean,

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00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: that's it's different, but he's back and he's fired up.

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Speaker 1: He texts me last night he's full of enthusiasm, ninety

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Speaker 1: miles an hour. So here we go. That was a

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00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: strange one though, And if for NFL people, they might

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Speaker 1: not be able to digest how important is Calle signing

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00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: day is and the other thing too. You know. I

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Speaker 1: talked to Patent Ordoozy, the head coach of Pitty, called

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Speaker 1: me about ten days ago because he hired a Frank Shignetti,

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Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator who I had a pit. We were

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00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: talking about Frank and he says, now, he said, it's

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00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: to the point where he has to recruit. I says, well,

626
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: when can these guys not leave? And they got Addison,

627
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: the little receiver who won the Bulitnic Off for work. Yeah,

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00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: and this kid is being recruited for this and I

629
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Speaker 1: you know, likeness thing, and teams are trying to you know,

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00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: talk him into leaving. And it came out today. Nardoozy

631
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: said it today that last year, at this time, Notre

632
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: Dame was trying to get Kenny Pickett the transfer. I mean,

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00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: that's not right, you know what I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 1: that's you shouldn't have to recruit these kids. Three times,

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Speaker 1: getting to be. It's tough. Coach, just so much insights.

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Speaker 1: You are the most well conconnected man in show biz.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I asked you a question, I get

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Speaker 1: interesting days, you know, in National Football League and college

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Speaker 1: football too. I mean, but and then Michigan ended up.

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Speaker 1: Fax machines are no longer. But I used to stand it.

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Speaker 1: You could send the letter, you could send the letters

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Speaker 1: what a big deal it was. I know, great scene, interview,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, all right, great stuff. That's so good. Okay,

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