1
00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:06,440
Speaker 1: Really readily.

2
00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,320
Speaker 2: Donks look at this now. Tip to Tim. This is

3
00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,560
Speaker 2: our life, this is our passion. That's the spirit we

4
00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,840
Speaker 2: bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

5
00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,960
Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat.

6
00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,400
Speaker 2: Now we're back. That was a joke, that was a

7
00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,920
Speaker 2: pump fake. We're back at it Morning Combat, same episode

8
00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,240
Speaker 2: you started with. The only difference now is we're a

9
00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,440
Speaker 2: little bit more older and washed. But we can hear

10
00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,000
Speaker 2: each other. Luke Thomas, you have fixed the technical difficulties

11
00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,360
Speaker 2: that were all heaved on me. How are you doing?

12
00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,160
Speaker 1: Annoyed? Annoyed, But as long as we can do the show,

13
00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:45,760
Speaker 1: it's great. I have to look at you this way

14
00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,560
Speaker 1: now because it's weird. I can attach, I mean, need

15
00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:51,160
Speaker 1: I say more?

16
00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh boy, oh boy. Well the good news is

17
00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,480
Speaker 2: after this record breaking number of technical difficulty we do

18
00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,760
Speaker 2: have David Hasselhoff on the zoom ready to go. Look

19
00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,080
Speaker 2: for it in PROMPTU interview.

20
00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:04,959
Speaker 1: Just annoying, just annoying.

21
00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,759
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Yeah, we'll get through. It's all right. We're

22
00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,679
Speaker 2: all humans here. We're gonna have a great show for you.

23
00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,120
Speaker 2: We're gonna get fired up. But before we get into

24
00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,720
Speaker 2: the first topic and set the stage for the combat

25
00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,959
Speaker 2: sports to call Hey Luke Thomas. When it comes to

26
00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,559
Speaker 2: working out in the gym, I don't know, and trying

27
00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,120
Speaker 2: to build some momentum to get to the place that

28
00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,039
Speaker 2: you know you should be. You can hit plateaus, you

29
00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,160
Speaker 2: can hit roadblocks. You can you know, get to a

30
00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,720
Speaker 2: point where you're so frustrated you go in the other direction.

31
00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,720
Speaker 2: But what about with fitbod how can that change?

32
00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,080
Speaker 1: Well, I mean working out in general, what's it good for?

33
00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,760
Speaker 1: Sleeping better, feeling better, all different kinds of stuff. But

34
00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,160
Speaker 1: the idea with fitbod is man. You know, you may

35
00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,480
Speaker 1: not have a real personal trainer right there, like a

36
00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,440
Speaker 1: living person next to you, but you can get something

37
00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,520
Speaker 1: that can track your progress, can be specific to your

38
00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:55,120
Speaker 1: individual needs, and really customize a workout exactly as you

39
00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,960
Speaker 1: might need it be. See that's pretty close to being

40
00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:57,680
Speaker 1: a personal trainer.

41
00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it helps you avoid those plateaus that turn

42
00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,800
Speaker 2: you in the other direction. With Fitbod's powerful technology, which

43
00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,960
Speaker 2: understands your strength training ability, It studies your past workouts,

44
00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,480
Speaker 2: and it adapts using the available gym equipment that you

45
00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,679
Speaker 2: have in front of you. The app keeps your gym

46
00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,880
Speaker 2: sessions fresh and fun by mixing up your workouts with

47
00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,720
Speaker 2: new exercises, rep schemes, supersets and circuits. It's all the

48
00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,800
Speaker 2: information you need to get to that next plateau and

49
00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,120
Speaker 2: that next level in your growth.

50
00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,280
Speaker 1: Uh, no doubt about it. And of course you mentioned,

51
00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,560
Speaker 1: of course the powerful technology, the past workouts, all the

52
00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,040
Speaker 1: stuff that it can do for you. And by the way,

53
00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,919
Speaker 1: it consistently keeps me coming back because I know I've

54
00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,280
Speaker 1: got something fresh, new, different, but also designed and that's

55
00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,600
Speaker 1: the best part. So guys, it's never been easier to

56
00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,799
Speaker 1: get the results you've wanted. Check out fitbod BC. You

57
00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,200
Speaker 1: can get twenty five percent off your subscription at fitbod

58
00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,760
Speaker 1: dot me slash.

59
00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:58,960
Speaker 2: Combat fitbod dot me slash Combat with a K. Thank

60
00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,640
Speaker 2: you very much. All right, let's get right into it.

61
00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,280
Speaker 2: We got a great, fantastic show for you today and

62
00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,000
Speaker 2: it starts with topic number one. I'm not sure if

63
00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,760
Speaker 2: this is the final card in the company's history, but

64
00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,639
Speaker 2: Bellator threeh one will go down Friday night only on showtime.

65
00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,200
Speaker 2: And when you compare the MMA card offerings this week

66
00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,160
Speaker 2: between UFCM and Bellator in the MMA space, Luke Thomas,

67
00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,200
Speaker 2: this Bellatore three oh one card is absolutely loaded.

68
00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty great Belator card. Your main event. You

69
00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,440
Speaker 1: get your rsov Amislov, who is one of the best

70
00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,960
Speaker 1: welterweights in the world. Jason Jackson the ass kicking machine.

71
00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,240
Speaker 1: That's a fun contest. I think Jason Jackson's up against it,

72
00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,680
Speaker 1: but I love it, dude. The best fight all weekend.

73
00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,000
Speaker 1: I said it before we lost the broadcast with Sergio

74
00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,040
Speaker 1: Pettis versus PATCHI Mix. There's just simply no denying that

75
00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,040
Speaker 1: is the best MMA fight over the weekend. Like there's

76
00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,720
Speaker 1: no argument about that whatsoever. And there's a couple other

77
00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,560
Speaker 1: decent fights on the car, the return of Ralphie on

78
00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,640
Speaker 1: Statts and a whole lot more, the rematch with Sabatelo.

79
00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about Scott Sabatelo too? How about aj McKee

80
00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,840
Speaker 2: back against Cidney Sydney Outlaw. Excuse me, a five fight

81
00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,720
Speaker 2: main card come Friday night that you're gonna have to see.

82
00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,560
Speaker 2: You can't miss it. So, Luke, I want to start

83
00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,800
Speaker 2: right out at the one that you've identified as the

84
00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,080
Speaker 2: crown jewel. We'll get to amasof in a second. He's

85
00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,320
Speaker 2: gonna defend his welterweight title in the main event. But

86
00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:17,720
Speaker 2: Sergio Pettis is the Bellotor bantamweight champion Benoff because of injury,

87
00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,040
Speaker 2: came back with a really incredible bounce back win against

88
00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,200
Speaker 2: the great Patricio Pitbull, and now he welcomes interim champion,

89
00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,840
Speaker 2: million dollar winner of the Bellator World Grand Prix, Pachi

90
00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,960
Speaker 2: Mix arguably really. I mean, look, we're talking about a

91
00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,720
Speaker 2: shortlist of the most red hot MMA fighters on the

92
00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,880
Speaker 2: globe at the moment. You gotta have Patchi Mix high

93
00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,000
Speaker 2: up in that list. And for this unification bout, he

94
00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,640
Speaker 2: is a minus two thirty betting favorite according to fan Duel,

95
00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,640
Speaker 2: plus one eighty four for Sergio Pettis first and foremost.

96
00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,239
Speaker 2: Luke is Mixed so hot that even with the bounce

97
00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,760
Speaker 2: back we saw from Pettis, these odds are about right.

98
00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,080
Speaker 1: To you, I think these odds are very right. I

99
00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,159
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to disc count completely Sergio Pettis. I didn't

100
00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,000
Speaker 1: think he was gonna beat Patricio, even though he was

101
00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,800
Speaker 1: going down Patricio people, even though he was going down

102
00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,640
Speaker 1: to one thirty five. And that's exactly what he did,

103
00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,000
Speaker 1: and he looked good doing it. It wasn't some kind

104
00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,120
Speaker 1: of just eke through performance. He shined in that contest.

105
00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,000
Speaker 1: He had just really great decision making and obviously great

106
00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,080
Speaker 1: striking and overall game. But Patchi Mix is a completely

107
00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,719
Speaker 1: different ball of wax here. This guy blazing through the tournament,

108
00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,400
Speaker 1: had the toughest run, beat the best guys, and at

109
00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,320
Speaker 1: each stage he got better and better and better, polishing

110
00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,920
Speaker 1: off raffee on Statts with that vicious knee and then

111
00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,520
Speaker 1: ultimately the stoppage thereafter. Dude, he is. He is so formidable.

112
00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,960
Speaker 1: Everyone thought he was a back attacking machine, which of

113
00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,760
Speaker 1: course he can be he is to an extent, but

114
00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,840
Speaker 1: more than that, more than that, he is now incredibly

115
00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,839
Speaker 1: well rounded, writing huge momentum. There's nothing he can't do

116
00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,280
Speaker 1: and BC, getting back to what I said before, he's

117
00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,320
Speaker 1: very well rounded now, but he still has that backpacking

118
00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,600
Speaker 1: ability in a way that nobody else does. What you

119
00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,080
Speaker 1: saw against Kyogi Horagucci already in this tournament. Patchi Mix

120
00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,520
Speaker 1: is not my mind, the best bantamweight not in the UFC,

121
00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,159
Speaker 1: and I don't know if he's the best bansomweight in

122
00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,800
Speaker 1: the world BC, but I would like his chances to

123
00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,960
Speaker 1: beat several of the top guys in the top five

124
00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,240
Speaker 1: of the UFC. That's how good and that's how much

125
00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:15,360
Speaker 1: confidence I have in him.

126
00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,200
Speaker 2: I think that's the best way to say, I'm not

127
00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,600
Speaker 2: even sure. In a UFC sense, we necessarily know who's

128
00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,479
Speaker 2: the best bandam weight in the world right now, and

129
00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,400
Speaker 2: that's no shot at Sean O'Malley, who recently knocked out

130
00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,440
Speaker 2: al Jamaine Sterling. But you've got Morob Devosh Willie trying

131
00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,880
Speaker 2: to get into this title shot with a big fight

132
00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,360
Speaker 2: coming up against Henry s u Hudo. Potentially, You've got

133
00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,080
Speaker 2: so much depth up and down. But look, if you

134
00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,000
Speaker 2: look at the numbers, if you look at the performances

135
00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,640
Speaker 2: in the quality of opposition over the past three years,

136
00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,159
Speaker 2: I'll put PATCHI mix up there with anybody in the world.

137
00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,080
Speaker 2: He's eighteen and one overall, thirty years old. Only lost

138
00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,880
Speaker 2: came in his first bandam weight title shot back in

139
00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,800
Speaker 2: the pandemic September of twenty twenty, when he lost a

140
00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,960
Speaker 2: unanimous decision to Wan Archiletta. He's talked over the years

141
00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,000
Speaker 2: about how important that fight was to teach him he

142
00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,240
Speaker 2: had to fail first to realize what it takes to

143
00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,039
Speaker 2: be at this level. What has he done since then?

144
00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,880
Speaker 2: How about five straight wins, four by stoppage. The million

145
00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,040
Speaker 2: dollars in the interim title that I talked about. But

146
00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,480
Speaker 2: when you talk about quality of opposition, third round submission

147
00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,760
Speaker 2: win over James Gallaher fifth round, a unanimous decision over

148
00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,520
Speaker 2: five rounds against Kyoji Horagucci submits and puts to sleep

149
00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,160
Speaker 2: Mago mad Maga metof in the second round. And then

150
00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,520
Speaker 2: you mentioned the fight that got him the million dollars,

151
00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,480
Speaker 2: that flying knee in the first round against Raffe on statts, Luke,

152
00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,880
Speaker 2: could you put this five fight win streak, which also

153
00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,160
Speaker 2: includes a submission of Albert Morales immediately after that title loss,

154
00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,160
Speaker 2: literally what I said up there, against any five fight

155
00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:42,960
Speaker 2: win streak of its kind for any ban win in

156
00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,360
Speaker 2: the world in recent memory.

157
00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,320
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you could. Now It's funny is he and

158
00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,280
Speaker 1: Sergio Pettis have a lot of the same opponents, and

159
00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,040
Speaker 1: so for example, against Horagucci, you'd be like, oh, well,

160
00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,960
Speaker 1: pet has stopped him, right, but Pettis was getting his

161
00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,560
Speaker 1: ass kicked before that. Before stopping him, you had Pachi

162
00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,480
Speaker 1: mix just basically control him. It's like, well, what about

163
00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,560
Speaker 1: one Archiletta. Petis won that contest too, but that was

164
00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,680
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, before there was his revolution. I

165
00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,640
Speaker 1: mean here's the thing BC. Both here's what I love

166
00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,720
Speaker 1: about this fight. By the way, both guys thirty years

167
00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,120
Speaker 1: of age. I mean, yes, please, that's what you want.

168
00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,360
Speaker 1: You want mature athletic fighters who are also very skilled

169
00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,960
Speaker 1: and technical. But the part about PATCHI MIXB seen this

170
00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,800
Speaker 1: is the thing you really have to get on board with,

171
00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,680
Speaker 1: is the rapid improvement. It's not been incremental in the

172
00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,560
Speaker 1: way that it is typically incremental for most good guys.

173
00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,680
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with being incremental in that sense, but BC,

174
00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,559
Speaker 1: what we have seen from Pachi Mix has been explosive

175
00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,920
Speaker 1: growth over time. The guy who beat Horra Gucci, You're like, okay,

176
00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,000
Speaker 1: he can beat everyone backpacking, and then he goes and

177
00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,679
Speaker 1: blows the doors of a Ralphie on Statts finished off

178
00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,120
Speaker 1: Mega Ben Mega Madoff. I mean the things he's doing

179
00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,600
Speaker 1: fight over fight is so impressive, so dynamic, so consistently

180
00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,280
Speaker 1: better than the last one. I just I really, really

181
00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,480
Speaker 1: really cannot wait to see this contest.

182
00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,800
Speaker 2: Well, the great news about this fight is it's not

183
00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,320
Speaker 2: like the red Hot Mix is coming against the full

184
00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,280
Speaker 2: champion in Pettis, who is you know, stumbling or let's

185
00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,559
Speaker 2: just say coming off directly from that year and a

186
00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,760
Speaker 2: half setback due to the injury. I mean when he

187
00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,320
Speaker 2: came back against Patricio Pipple in June, he re established

188
00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,120
Speaker 2: himself in a big way. And if you look at

189
00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,440
Speaker 2: his own six fight streak since sorry excuse me, five

190
00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,560
Speaker 2: fight streaks since leaving the UFC in twenty nineteen, he's

191
00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,320
Speaker 2: five and oh two stoppages in there, but equal level,

192
00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,520
Speaker 2: maybe not exactly equal to mix. But you're talking about

193
00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,720
Speaker 2: wins over Archiletta, the former champion to win the title

194
00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,880
Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty one, stopping Horror Gucci, as you mentioned,

195
00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,360
Speaker 2: and now you get Patricio Pippole on your resume in

196
00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,679
Speaker 2: any form, right. I know it was a pit bull

197
00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,040
Speaker 2: cutting down in weight trying to become a three division champion,

198
00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,719
Speaker 2: but that was still a dangerous, tough version of him.

199
00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,679
Speaker 2: You add into his comeback from that injury in that

200
00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,880
Speaker 2: and I think Sergio pettis re establish fully exactly who

201
00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,720
Speaker 2: he is now. That's not enough to get the edge

202
00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,880
Speaker 2: with the judges, But when we actually look at this

203
00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,959
Speaker 2: fight tactically, Luke, it's weird to say it because he's

204
00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,640
Speaker 2: coming in as a champion, but how do you rate

205
00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,360
Speaker 2: the chances of Sergio pettis getting the win here as

206
00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,679
Speaker 2: the underdog. When you look at really how quick to

207
00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,280
Speaker 2: the finish Mix has benevlet.

208
00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mix is very very very I didn't used to

209
00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,199
Speaker 1: say this because it wasn't true before, but it's true now.

210
00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,120
Speaker 1: He's a dual threat, and he's a complete dual threat.

211
00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,760
Speaker 1: I mean they really If he decides to never take

212
00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,120
Speaker 1: you down, you have all kinds of problems you have

213
00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,839
Speaker 1: to deal with. And if he does decide to take

214
00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,000
Speaker 1: you down, you have a brand new set of problems

215
00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,280
Speaker 1: that you really have to deal with. He is very

216
00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,840
Speaker 1: very capable as a finisher in both directions, very very

217
00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,520
Speaker 1: technical in both directions, very good at positional control in

218
00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,320
Speaker 1: the grappling, and good everywhere dangerous and by the way,

219
00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,560
Speaker 1: like risk taking, but in a calculated way. Doesn't sit

220
00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,480
Speaker 1: back behind the jab and just do nothing. Really kind

221
00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,480
Speaker 1: of goes for it, but picks his timing. And that's

222
00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,280
Speaker 1: one of the part about his timing is so excellent.

223
00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,719
Speaker 1: So if your pettis first and foremost, you cannot give

224
00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,800
Speaker 1: up your back. You cannot be along the fence and

225
00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,839
Speaker 1: get hit with a slide by, You cannot get put

226
00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,120
Speaker 1: on your hands and have to wrestle back. He will

227
00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,760
Speaker 1: simply take your back and hold it from there. He's

228
00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,120
Speaker 1: got an excellent body triangle, by the way, very very

229
00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,480
Speaker 1: tall for the division right, so he's lengthy, so he's

230
00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,679
Speaker 1: able to get his limbs around guys and able to

231
00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,199
Speaker 1: keep control without the same kind of maybe problems that

232
00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,120
Speaker 1: a smaller stature fighter might have. And then on the

233
00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,280
Speaker 1: feet BC, you've seen it as well. Here's another part

234
00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,480
Speaker 1: where his height comes into play. How did he finish

235
00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,960
Speaker 1: Ralphie on Stotts. It's that step through rising knee, which

236
00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,199
Speaker 1: is something you can do when there's either a height

237
00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,480
Speaker 1: or a body type differential in that way. But he's

238
00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,040
Speaker 1: got great kickboxing at range. He's got a good shot,

239
00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,440
Speaker 1: he's got good body locks. I mean, the guy has

240
00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,600
Speaker 1: it all. If I'm Sergio Pettis, this is very much

241
00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,520
Speaker 1: going to be a stick and move leg kick kind

242
00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,080
Speaker 1: of job because you really have to. You have to

243
00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:59,920
Speaker 1: kind of just make movement and choices difficult for PATCHI mick,

244
00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,840
Speaker 1: you have to keep distance on your terms. Not his

245
00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,040
Speaker 1: front kicks, jabs, pushkicks, that kind of a thing. Leg

246
00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,240
Speaker 1: kicks maybe going high a little bit later, to the

247
00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,800
Speaker 1: body a little bit later, but I think tying up

248
00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,480
Speaker 1: with the guy who's going to be strong, has the

249
00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,640
Speaker 1: right kind of body type for grappling, and is that

250
00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,840
Speaker 1: much of a finishing hunter. Yeah, you got to stick

251
00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,800
Speaker 1: and move on this one. I'm expecting the kind of

252
00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,600
Speaker 1: a difference in that way, Luke.

253
00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,880
Speaker 2: Let's look at the ground game of Sergio Pettis, which

254
00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,200
Speaker 2: includes takedown defense. This guy's been around since basically his

255
00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,320
Speaker 2: teenage years at a high level in the UFC. He's

256
00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,520
Speaker 2: got big wins going back there. He's also got a

257
00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,839
Speaker 2: string of losses that led him to his own career reinvention.

258
00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,440
Speaker 2: Now past the injury, thirty years old, in really his

259
00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,640
Speaker 2: absolute physical and mental prime. If this fight starts to

260
00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,160
Speaker 2: lean in the direction of Mix's strength, and I'm not

261
00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,560
Speaker 2: taking away his striking ability, you just nailed it in

262
00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,280
Speaker 2: that flying knee against Stats, But if this fight starts

263
00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,319
Speaker 2: to head toward the ground, how will Pettis swim with him?

264
00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,200
Speaker 1: Pettis has good submission defense, he's got good anti grappling

265
00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,880
Speaker 1: when he needs it, like he won't necessarily be completely overwhelmed.

266
00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,840
Speaker 1: But I don't think skill for skill, and frankly strength

267
00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,319
Speaker 1: for strength, he can really compete with PATCHI mix, I'd

268
00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,360
Speaker 1: be very surprised. So he is squirmy. He does have

269
00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,520
Speaker 1: good takedown defense. He's got an ability to work from

270
00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,640
Speaker 1: guard and not have his guard passed. He's got the

271
00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,800
Speaker 1: ability to get back to his feet at times or

272
00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,360
Speaker 1: even if his back is taken. He's got good hand

273
00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,440
Speaker 1: fighting from the back. He's pretty good that way. It

274
00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,040
Speaker 1: just doesn't seem like he's gonna be the kind of

275
00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,120
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna shoot a double on him. Get PATCHI

276
00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,440
Speaker 1: mix's back or mix my work from guard while PATCHI

277
00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,839
Speaker 1: excuse me, well, Sergio Pettis works on top. That just

278
00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,600
Speaker 1: seems that just seems very unlikely. I do think it's

279
00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,000
Speaker 1: winnable for Sergio, but it's winnable under striking terms. He

280
00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,880
Speaker 1: can certainly survive in the grappling BC. I mean Koji

281
00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,880
Speaker 1: Horrigucci went the full distance with him, which was five rounds, right,

282
00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,959
Speaker 1: I mean went the whole way with him, and it

283
00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,120
Speaker 1: didn't get submitted. He lost the fight, but he didn't

284
00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,200
Speaker 1: get submitted. Certainly Pettis is capable of keeping himself alive

285
00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,080
Speaker 1: in that way. The question is what kind of offense

286
00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,440
Speaker 1: can he really going from the ground, What kind of

287
00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,200
Speaker 1: ability to create scrambles can he have on the ground,

288
00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,400
Speaker 1: and I would say he's got some ability there, but

289
00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,800
Speaker 1: it's going to be limited against a guy this good Foreshore.

290
00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,680
Speaker 1: For sure, Patchi Mix can play the levels, but where

291
00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,200
Speaker 1: I would say they have the biggest difference between them

292
00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,200
Speaker 1: would be on the ground in mixes favor.

293
00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,200
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm trying to have this conversation now

294
00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,080
Speaker 2: because this fight is so great and we don't know

295
00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,520
Speaker 2: who's gonna win, and it goes down on Friday night

296
00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,800
Speaker 2: under the Bellatour banner on Showtime. But Luke, we know

297
00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,640
Speaker 2: the larger headlines of this. I guess sale to PFL

298
00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,040
Speaker 2: for Bellatour is it through? Is it mid? I haven't

299
00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,640
Speaker 2: heard updates, but I just want to reiterate one thing.

300
00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,640
Speaker 2: I know this probably doesn't need to be said, because

301
00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,560
Speaker 2: the PFL has the damn smartest cage. I'd love to

302
00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,880
Speaker 2: see that the SAT scores of the PFL smart case

303
00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,720
Speaker 2: to be fair. But if they have any want or

304
00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,640
Speaker 2: plans to keep the two brands separate in twenty twenty four,

305
00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,200
Speaker 2: as we have heard whispered, not only stop that shit

306
00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,440
Speaker 2: right now, put Patchie Mix as like the face one

307
00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,600
Speaker 2: of the faces. If he wins us or Sergio Pettis

308
00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,840
Speaker 2: if he wins it. Basically, whoever comes out of this

309
00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,560
Speaker 2: fight is already established as one of the best in

310
00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,080
Speaker 2: the world in their weight class. Hey, PFL, put this

311
00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,000
Speaker 2: guy on your poster. Make this guy a foundational part

312
00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,320
Speaker 2: of what you're doing moving forward. If this sale is

313
00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,920
Speaker 2: really happening, that's now I'm not coming from left field here, Luke,

314
00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:18,760
Speaker 2: that's common sense.

315
00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this is the patch he makes. Let's

316
00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:22,360
Speaker 1: see what he can do. Let's see what he can

317
00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,760
Speaker 1: do on Friday. But if he goes in there, let's

318
00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,600
Speaker 1: just say houses Sergio Pittis, which I'm not really expecting.

319
00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,920
Speaker 1: I think he'll win, but you know, I expect a competitive,

320
00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,800
Speaker 1: tough fight. Sergio Pettis is a very experienced, skilled, talented champion.

321
00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,320
Speaker 1: But if he does that, I mean, you know, why

322
00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,720
Speaker 1: would you not make that guy the face of your organization.

323
00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,960
Speaker 1: He is such a ball of fire out there when

324
00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,600
Speaker 1: he competes, He's got a certain kind of edge to him.

325
00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,000
Speaker 1: He's very well rounded, he's very skilled. That that's just

326
00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,920
Speaker 1: that's just what you want. And again, I hope that

327
00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,680
Speaker 1: these people are not so silly as to keep the

328
00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,640
Speaker 1: brand separate. You've got two brands that basically don't have

329
00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,040
Speaker 1: fan bases, and you want to keep them separate. I don't.

330
00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,800
Speaker 1: I don't understand what the reasoning why that would be.

331
00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,880
Speaker 1: But either way, either way, the winner of here should

332
00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,640
Speaker 1: be set up for some kind of elevated position, whether

333
00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,480
Speaker 1: it's Pettis or Mix. I think it'll be mixed, but

334
00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,720
Speaker 1: no doubt about it, this is a huge contest. Love

335
00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:11,160
Speaker 1: this fight.

336
00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,720
Speaker 2: Look outside of the celebrity names that the PFL has

337
00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,480
Speaker 2: that they're planning to use in their pay per view

338
00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,280
Speaker 2: run next year, the Xboxers and gone O, Jake Paul that,

339
00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,760
Speaker 2: and outside of their very talented and deep women's division

340
00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,040
Speaker 2: in the PFL, or maybe the one division they have.

341
00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,920
Speaker 2: Do you think Belatur when they emerge these rosters, is

342
00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,680
Speaker 2: actually going to bring, like by far more top end

343
00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,560
Speaker 2: critical talent across the board.

344
00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, their roster's much deeper. I mean, Belator's problem

345
00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,240
Speaker 1: is not that they don't have quality fighters. I mentioned

346
00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,080
Speaker 1: it before, and PFL has the same problem. They don't

347
00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:42,760
Speaker 1: have fan bases. And what I mean by that is,

348
00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be disparaging. I'm honest to God,

349
00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,640
Speaker 1: not what I'm trying to explain to folks is if

350
00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,080
Speaker 1: you were around for the days of UFC and Pride,

351
00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,720
Speaker 1: where there was kind of neck and neck. One was

352
00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,240
Speaker 1: maybe slightly better than the other in certain cases. Pride

353
00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,800
Speaker 1: was way better at times. But you could see people

354
00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,600
Speaker 1: who are like, yeah, I don't watch one or the other,

355
00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,240
Speaker 1: I only watch this one. They had real heating fan bases.

356
00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,280
Speaker 1: This doesn't exist anymore. People are either UFC fans or

357
00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,199
Speaker 1: they're not. They're not really like how many people have

358
00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,520
Speaker 1: you ever met that are like dedicated hardcore PFL fans,

359
00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:14,240
Speaker 1: dedicated hardcore Bellator fans. So in that sense, it's just

360
00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,480
Speaker 1: kind of hard to rally the troops behind some of

361
00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,440
Speaker 1: these events or behind some of these fighters. But please

362
00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,200
Speaker 1: make no mistake about it. Bellator's roster is very very good.

363
00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,840
Speaker 1: Their light heavyweight roster is particularly one of the best

364
00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,560
Speaker 1: ones in any organization in the world. And again for

365
00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,399
Speaker 1: this bantamweight contest, you've got two guys in Sergio Pettis

366
00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,919
Speaker 1: and PATCHI mix who I'm telling you. I'm telling you

367
00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,680
Speaker 1: they could compete with the top five and win or lose,

368
00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, but they could compete with the top

369
00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,880
Speaker 1: five at the UFC and I think Pachi Mix could

370
00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,880
Speaker 1: beat several of those guys. He is legit.

371
00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,720
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not doing a bit here. This is a

372
00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,800
Speaker 2: true story, Luke spring On John from Real World Too.

373
00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,840
Speaker 2: True story. I was at Big Why in Avon, Connecticut

374
00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,800
Speaker 2: a couple months ago, wearing a UFC rebox shirt different

375
00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,440
Speaker 2: from this but similar, and a middle aged guy whose

376
00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,719
Speaker 2: job was to bring the carriages back from the parking

377
00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,879
Speaker 2: lot and maybe looked like he had some level of

378
00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,440
Speaker 2: learning difficulties. This is an actual conversation. He goes, oh,

379
00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,000
Speaker 2: you watch EMMN. I'm like, yeah, man, I love it.

380
00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,680
Speaker 2: He goes, yeah, I only watch Belator, but I love it.

381
00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,359
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding, Luke, I'm not kidding at all. He

382
00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,240
Speaker 2: proceeded to name every champion, tell me all the fights

383
00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,000
Speaker 2: he went to at mohegan like, this guy's all in

384
00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,040
Speaker 2: in that demographic that you claim doesn't exist.

385
00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,920
Speaker 1: So just so you know, no, no, listen, listen. I'm

386
00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,160
Speaker 1: not trying to be disparaging, but they wouldn't have been

387
00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,840
Speaker 1: sold if what I'm saying is ultimately untrue. And again

388
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,040
Speaker 1: we just found out with these court documents they've never

389
00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,960
Speaker 1: made a profit one time in their in their in

390
00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,840
Speaker 1: the years of operation, so it probably plays a role.

391
00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,760
Speaker 1: But you asked about the quality of the roster. Yes,

392
00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,280
Speaker 1: they have done a very good job developing the quality

393
00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,320
Speaker 1: on the roster. And Patchi Mix on Sergio Pettis Patchy

394
00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,679
Speaker 1: Mix being like kind of the homegrown guy, but Patchi

395
00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,200
Speaker 1: Mix and Sergio Pettis two shiny examples of that fact.

396
00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to this main event, because it's

397
00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,840
Speaker 2: also awesome. If Patchi Mick is one of the most

398
00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,119
Speaker 2: unsung great fighters globally in the sport of mma, where's

399
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,119
Speaker 2: Jarislav Amasov on that list? Because you talk about a

400
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,760
Speaker 2: guy who is twenty seven in oh he's also thirty

401
00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,600
Speaker 2: years old, like Pettis and Mix, and like Pettis, also

402
00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,320
Speaker 2: had to come back from his own time away nearly

403
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,840
Speaker 2: two years due to the Ukraine Russia War. But when

404
00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,639
Speaker 2: he came back in February in the first defense of

405
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,560
Speaker 2: his welterweight title in the rematch with Logan story it

406
00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,800
Speaker 2: went five rounds, but it did not look like the

407
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,439
Speaker 2: first fight. Amasov, I mean, for two years away on

408
00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,880
Speaker 2: the front lines of war, came back like nothing happened

409
00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,920
Speaker 2: in between. Luke twenty seven in oh So while this

410
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 2: is not a shot at the asskicking machine. Jason Jackson.

411
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,920
Speaker 2: You gotta start here with Amasov and I want to

412
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:50,360
Speaker 2: say this, like, how much more? How much higher does

413
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,399
Speaker 2: he have to climb in this unbeaten start to his

414
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:57,160
Speaker 2: career before on a worldwide level, we start like celebrating

415
00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 2: it because you know, sometimes you'll get a boxer zerdo

416
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 2: Ramirez recently did it? They start getting forty four and oh,

417
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 2: forty five and oh, and you're like, oh my god,

418
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 2: are they in like Marciano Floyd territory now or not?

419
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 2: What does twenty seven and oh mean in twenty twenty

420
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 2: three in modern day mma?

421
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's virtually unheard of. I mean, how many guys

422
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,880
Speaker 1: have you ever just seen twenty seven? And oh yeah

423
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,640
Speaker 1: Habib maybe, but wasn't that twenty five? Even he didn't

424
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,439
Speaker 1: get that far. Not granted he was fighting, you know,

425
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,119
Speaker 1: huge fights against big names, very talented guys. I'm not

426
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,640
Speaker 1: here to say that, you know, because if you got.

427
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 2: The twenty nine, right, twenty nine and oh Habibi.

428
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 1: Bet whatever the case, there's differences in their resumes, and

429
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 1: Habib's is better. I'm not here to compare the two.

430
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 1: I'm simply saying it's rare. It's very very rare that

431
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,359
Speaker 1: someone can go this far. And then, I mean, just

432
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,439
Speaker 1: think about how many variables you have to control for

433
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 1: when you win. The judges have to be on your

434
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 1: side at times when you go there. You have to have,

435
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 1: you know, good luck when you don't get injured in

436
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 1: a fight. We talked about Ryan Hall tearing his thumb

437
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 1: and breaking his jaw like in the first fight in

438
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,120
Speaker 1: this contest with the Olier Suporia, like just crazy shit happens.

439
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 1: How many times do things have to go right for

440
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 1: you on top of just having the skill. It's very

441
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: very unusual, very very hard. And if you can get

442
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,440
Speaker 1: to nearly thirty fights at a international class organization, which

443
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 1: Miltour is and not have a loss, dude, you are

444
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: doing something right. Now. Of course, folks are going to ask, Okay,

445
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 1: how good exactly? I don't know. Certainly I would put

446
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 1: him inside the top ten of the UFC and probably

447
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 1: in the top five in their welterweight division. Beyond that

448
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 1: it is certainly debatable. I don't know the answer to it.

449
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 1: But the point that you made me see, which I

450
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 1: think is really the important one. The rematch against Logan

451
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 1: Story two, years off basically having to go home and

452
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 1: fight in a war, comes back and Logan Storley folks

453
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 1: as a guy who was I think I want a

454
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 1: four time All American out of the University of Minnesota,

455
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 1: a stud wrestler who has gotten much better than himself

456
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: but wetpisode than the last version of himself out of

457
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: Kilcliff Kilcliff FC. He's Robbie Lawler's right hand man. He

458
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 1: has gotten much much better and this fight got way

459
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: way further apart in terms of their skill. The first

460
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 1: fight between them was a three round contest. It aired

461
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 1: on CBA Sports Live. It was close. It was really

462
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: really close. You could see Logan storycal was kind of like,

463
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it, was dejected when the judges read the decision. Dude,

464
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 1: there was nothing controversial about this one. Amasov so much better,

465
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: so much further apart, and that's from a story who

466
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 1: we knew had gotten better because he had been maintaining

467
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 1: an active schedule all that time. Dude, Amasov is a

468
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: natural at this. He has got phenomenal takedown defense, excellent scrambling,

469
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 1: really good surprising striking, can set traps, can fight, backing up,

470
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 1: can lead guys with pressure. He is a true, true talent.

471
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 1: But Jason Jackson is a big guy. Often fights at

472
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 1: one seventy five. Here he is back down at one

473
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 1: seventy another well trained fighter out of kill Cliff FC. Yeah,

474
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: there should be a fun contest on the feet, or

475
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: maybe Amasov takes him down. I guess we'll see.

476
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look Amasov, I mean twenty seven and oh

477
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 2: you could say who did he be? Well? Who he

478
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 2: has had the chance to fight. He'd beat Roberto Soldije,

479
00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,719
Speaker 2: Eric Silva, Gerald Harris, David Rickles, ed Ruth Story twice

480
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: and Douglas Lima for the title. Dude, that's not bad.

481
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 2: That's not bad, Luke, It's not bad at all.

482
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: It's not bad at all. Again, are there names that

483
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: the average UFC fan is gonna recognize? No one for

484
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: that reason, they're going to dismiss it. But anybody who's

485
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: a real MMA fan, who cares about quality and can

486
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 1: identify it on paper or on tape, I should say,

487
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna love this contest. By the way, I'm kind

488
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: of saying it's a striking contest because I actually think

489
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 1: that's Jason Jackson's best game. But Jason Jackson can wrestle too.

490
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: I wonder how he might try and take Amasof to

491
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: the ground to wear him out because he is physically

492
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: bigger I think than Amazof for the weight class. That

493
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 1: might be an interesting wrinkle in.

494
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: Terms of recent common opponents. Somewhat recent, Jason Jackson fought

495
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: ed Ruth, who Amasof beat, and he lost to Ed

496
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 2: Ruth by split decision in twenty nineteen. But that was

497
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: a very disputed split decision. And what has happened since then?

498
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: How about six straight wins for Jason Jackson beating Paul Day, Douglas, Lima, Neiman, Gracie, Benson, Henderson,

499
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 2: Jordan Me And look, that's a pretty damn good run himself, elf,

500
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: considering I never thought he lost that Ed Ruth fight

501
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: thirty three years old from Jamaica. He's gonna take his swing.

502
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 2: It will be interesting to see how close he can come.

503
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 2: He'll be plus three ten as Jackson minus four thirty

504
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 2: Amazof quickly to wrap up the rest of this, Luke,

505
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,479
Speaker 2: do I have a lot of interest in Rafaon Statts

506
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 2: versus Danny Sabatello too, because even though their first fight.

507
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,479
Speaker 1: Sucked, it sucked ass The hijinks.

508
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: Between them is always great. But are you surprised that

509
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: even though Statts won the first fight, which again sucked

510
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 2: and it could have gone either way? And I think,

511
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: wasn't there a Doug Crosby scorebook card in there or

512
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: somebody did somebody shit their pants in that?

513
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: And judge, yeah, that was the one where he had

514
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: the bad scorecard then flew and then when I had

515
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: another bad scorecard.

516
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: Oh dude, that's Brian Minor. Is that Brian Minor who

517
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: who had a who had a big night the other night.

518
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: I'll double check. I could double check on aimatas well.

519
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 2: I want to let you know, Luke, that fan duel

520
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 2: has Sabotello minus one twenty two Stotts plus one hundred

521
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: coming back from that knockout loss to mix surprise you

522
00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 2: or you just don't care.

523
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 1: I be honest, I don't care about this fight. If

524
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: I can be honest, I do like ralphae On Stotts,

525
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: and I actually think Denny Sabateelo has some real talent,

526
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: but the big thing that's been holding him back is

527
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: all control, no ground and pound unless the opponent is

528
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,959
Speaker 1: completely overwhelmed. But Raphael and Stotts can wrestle so he

529
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: doesn't get completely overwhelmed, and then as a consequence, Sabatelo

530
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: has no second or third gear to go to. So

531
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: both guys are very skilled, but they just don't match up.

532
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: At least the first time anyway, they didn't match up

533
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: in an interesting way. The thing that I think you're

534
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: looking for here is if you're Sabotello, this is the

535
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: time to start rolling out some of the other things

536
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: you might have been working on. And if you're stats,

537
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: I think Stotts is like thirty five, maybe even older

538
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: than that. If you can tell me, let me see here,

539
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: I can tell you Stott's currently sits at thirty four

540
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: years old, almost almost thirty five, So time for him

541
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: to make some noise.

542
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, next month he's going to realize Looke that he

543
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 2: has no chance to win a title below middleweight under

544
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: your statistical breakdown. But the reason why I'm shocked that

545
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: Sabatello was the betting favorites because he's lost his two

546
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: of his last three, one being that split decision to

547
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: and the other one being just in July when Magomed

548
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: mago Medoff submitted him. Magomed was coming off his own

549
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: submission loss to patchy mix in the tournament. So I

550
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 2: don't know where Sabatelo deserves the right for this momentum.

551
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna be watching AJ McKee back against Sydney Outlaw.

552
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, minus two seventy is McKee

553
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 2: outlaw plus two ten? Luke Thomas, how much of a

554
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: challenge can Outlaw provide here? Because it's about seeing where

555
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 2: McKee is in his lightweight progression.

556
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: Uh one quick note here, you asked about the judging

557
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: in their last contest. Brian Minor and Eric Cologne actually

558
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: scored the fight between Statts and Sabotello correctly. They gave

559
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 1: it to stats forty eight forty seven. They had all

560
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: the same rounds, So shota Brian Minor, he got it right.

561
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: It was Doug Crosby who gave Sabatello all five rounds.

562
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: That was the issue. That was the issue. So, I mean,

563
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: one of the worst scorecards you've ever seen in your life,

564
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: shouted Douglas Crosby for being absolutely incompetent. All right, but

565
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: you're asking about AJ McKee here. AJ McKee's been an

566
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: interesting spot. We had all kind of hoped it was

567
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: gonna be Usman number made off Ajkey in the tournament finals,

568
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: and for a bunch of reasons that's now not gonna

569
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: be the case. So he's taken on Sydney Outlaw. I listen,

570
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like say, maybe you read the odds,

571
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I didn't hear them. But BC McKee should

572
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: be able to beat Outlaw without much issue if he's

573
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: developing the way that we thought he was even at

574
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: one fifty five. I don't think Outlaws some kind of pushover.

575
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: I don't mean to say that he is actually pretty good.

576
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: He's a good fighter, but McKee should be closer to

577
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: being a great fighter. So the thing about McKee that

578
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: we've seen is he sometimes fights up or down relative

579
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: to the competition. I'm kind of curious to see what

580
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: he does. I think McKee has the capability, listen to

581
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, capability of putting it on Outlaw. Whether

582
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: he does or not, obviously we'll see you on Friday Night.

583
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: But I do think he's got that in him. I'm

584
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: curious to see what kind of approach he takes to

585
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: get the.

586
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: Dumb minus two seventy McKee the favorite on FanDuel plus

587
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 2: two to ten. Outlaw Luke, do you think we don't

588
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: have inside info from Paramount, from PFL, from Belaitor or anything.

589
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 2: If they're going to keep the brand separate for a

590
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: short period, do you think it might be so that

591
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: beltur can finish out some of the existing not just

592
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: the tournament and I'll and on this main card. The

593
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,959
Speaker 2: fifth fight is the semi final bout in the lightweight

594
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 2: tournament between patricky Freeir, the older brother of Patricio, and

595
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: Alexander Shablie. I'm sorry, yeah, this is lightweight light waight, Luke,

596
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 2: is do you think it might be so that we

597
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: can play out that final and play out any other rivalries,

598
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 2: because like you know, there's still the pit Bull versus

599
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: Pico fight for the title. One thirty five would be

600
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 2: would be great?

601
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: Right?

602
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: Or one forty five? Excuse me? Or maybe I've turned

603
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: out of my asshole.

604
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I think I think it'd be fine

605
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: to finish those tournament fights if you needed to, But hey,

606
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: you don't have to finish them with the belt or

607
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: brand per se. They can kind of finish on their own.

608
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: But okay, even if you want to do that, that's fine.

609
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: But what I heard was they wanted to keep the

610
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: brand separate for like a year or two, and who

611
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: what the fuck is the purpose of that? You know?

612
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Shabie a big favorite here Luke minus five

613
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: hundred against the former champion Patricky plus three sixty. Remember

614
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: Usman Normaga Madeoff was the champion at lightweight. He got stripped,

615
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: he got pulled from the tournament. Ali Abdelazi's's manager still

616
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: saying publicly that he thinks he can get that switch.

617
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: That it's somewhat misunderstanding that we talked about, but this

618
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: is to determine who fights him. I don't even know

619
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: if the tournament figure it finishes. I guess under the

620
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: whispers of their plan it does. But you're saying bet

621
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: Shabilee all night long.

622
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: That's what. Yeah, dude, he's coming in off back to

623
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 1: back wins where he has uh let me see here

624
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: pulled up. He smoked Brent Primis in twenty twenty two

625
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: in June and then followed it up by smoking Tofique Musayev.

626
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: Two of the best guys at belt or has who

627
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: aren't champions. I mean, obviously Brent Primis was a champion,

628
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: but you know, aren't actively champions and this guy just

629
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,719
Speaker 1: mowed through them. Patricky Pitpoll is certainly dangerous, and he's

630
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: gotten a lot better over the recent years, but she

631
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: Blie's upside appears to be significantly higher. Uh.

632
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: Pretty good undercard as well. Some names you know, but

633
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: the five fight main card, didn't I belt or three

634
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: to oh one from Chicago. Turn tune into showtime check

635
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: it out. Very good fight, you.

636
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: See real Cquick question for the for the women's flyway

637
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: fight between Denise Kilholtz and Sumika Inaba, pants around the waist,

638
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: pants around the ankles, pants around the the the knees.

639
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: Are you saying that's that's the kind of fight where

640
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: I put uh, where I put it into? What's that mode?

641
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: Luke?

642
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: Private mode on your phone?

643
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: Right?

644
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: I put that?

645
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, incognito your browser and incognito?

646
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: Did you say browsers or browsers like I didn't hear

647
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: that correctly?

648
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: By the way, Kerry Taylor Melendez, wife of gilber Melendez,

649
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: on this card back for the first time in quite

650
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: some time.

651
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: There you go, There you go. A couple other names

652
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: of note on there sprinkled. Then let's go to topic two though,

653
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: from the APEX in Las Vegas. You know who says

654
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: Last Vegas. Karen mulvaney, our great friend show, Showtime Boxing Podcast.

655
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: He says, Last Vegas with his British accent, but yeah.

656
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: He's British. I was gonna say he gets a little

657
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: bit of a he gets a little bit of a

658
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: break on that one.

659
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: All right, great guy, he's out chasing Wales.

660
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: Now.

661
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: It's UFC Vegas eighty two Fight Night, whatever you want

662
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: to call it. But hey, Luke, we got a really

663
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: good main event here from this standpoint. Friend of the

664
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: show Paul Craig, who has recently reinvented himself at one

665
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: eighty five in the main event, but he's on the

666
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: B side because red Hot Brendan Allen is red frickin hot.

667
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: Five straight wins, four by stoppage, his last three over

668
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: creased stuff, Juco, Andre Munize and Bruno Silva, all by

669
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: rear naked choke. Why are we not talking more in

670
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: this division about Brendan Allen.

671
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: Luke, You know, I was kind of high on him

672
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: when I first began to see him. He had the

673
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: lost to Shaan Strickland back all the way in twenty twenty.

674
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: He'd beaten Kyle Dawkas before that. He's been in the

675
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: UFC since the Contender Series, and I watched them on

676
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: the Contender Series all the way back in twenty nineteen,

677
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: back when BC in twenty nineteen, if you got into

678
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: the Contender Series, you had to look good, remember that, Yeah,

679
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: you actually had to Like yeah, Brendan, you not only

680
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: had to win, you actually had to win impressively.

681
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: Who knew you had to fight with balls? You had

682
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: to go after the finish. That's how they They breed

683
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: him over there.

684
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: And he did. He got a first round rear naked choke,

685
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: followed it up by beating big mouth himself Kevin Holland,

686
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: then beating Tom Breeze, who was a big UK prospect

687
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: for a time, then beating Kyle Daukas. Loses to Sean Strickland.

688
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: He gets punched out in the second round. Okay, uh,

689
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: because a couple of wins over some you know, a

690
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: good fighter has been with the same level. And then

691
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: the one that kind of set me back for him

692
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: was the Chris Curtis fight where he just got out

693
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: boxed and made some pretty you know, questionable choices in

694
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: the stand up in that fight where it happened. But

695
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: the point you're trying to make it I think is right.

696
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, that was not a great showing for him.

697
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: He got overwhelmed there. But since then beating Sam Alvi,

698
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: Jacob Malcoum, the training partner now to Robert Whitaker, Christoph Jocko,

699
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: who's sort of like a real sturdy test in that division,

700
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: then beating Andre Munize, and then beating Bruno Silva and

701
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: by the way, he stopped all of the last three

702
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: of those guys rear naked choke, rear naked choke, rear

703
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: naked choke. Dude, he's good. He's real, real good. He's

704
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: real talented. He just hasn't yet like the big names.

705
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: He kind of fought that Sean Stricklands wasn't a big

706
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: name when he fought him, or the Chris Curtis. He

707
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: hasn't beaten that name yet. That really kind of sets

708
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: him apart. But that's what in my mind, Paul Craig

709
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: kind of represents. Two of five is in the past

710
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: now for him, he's down on one to eighty five.

711
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna see what happens here, you know, I ultimately

712
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: don't know, but he needed to be on a really

713
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: visible not just card because he did fight on the

714
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: ABC card, but he needed a signature win. That's what

715
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: he hasn't had yet. Has he had good wins, yes?

716
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: Has he had dominant wins? Yes? Has he had very

717
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: impressive overall performances, no question about it. But what's your

718
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: If I had to ask, what's the best Brendan Allen win,

719
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: what's the one that really stands out to you? You

720
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: could pick some good ones, you can't pick that one,

721
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: that one that really stands out. Here's an opportunity main event,

722
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: even though it's Apex good opponent, this is his chance.

723
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a big name in Paul Craig who really

724
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: looked good against Andre Muneese in his own middleweight debut,

725
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: cutting down there for the thirty five year old from Scotland.

726
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: But Luke, do you like in terms of Brendan Allen

727
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: twenty seven years old South Carolina native? Do you like

728
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: that Daniel Boone Davey Crockett thing he's going It's like

729
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: his own version of the Habib what's the name of

730
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: Habib's you know I'm talking about, right?

731
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 1: So the one that Habib wears I believe is called

732
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: the Papopka.

733
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I don't know what, like,

734
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: what is that just a winter hat in Habib's area,

735
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: or does that mean like I have killed many exotic

736
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: animal by hand and I've made this hat out of

737
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 2: their remains like that.

738
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: I don't know the exact nature of its cultural expression. Again,

739
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: the Georgians seem to have one that's similar. I don't know.

740
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: I don't know what there's is. I will still say this,

741
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: you know, the Davy Crockett thing to me doesn't really

742
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: work because you got the raccoon rattail in the back,

743
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: and I just that just is never cool. But Shavkat

744
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: Rokmanov having the dead wolf that he wears on his head, Yeah,

745
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,479
Speaker 1: that one. I mean.

746
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: As a general, Wendel had the shark teeth and he

747
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: killed the shark to get it, yea, to like put

748
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: it on his thing, you know.

749
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean here's the rule in general, and this

750
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: is true about Brendan Allen as well. Any man that

751
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: wears dead animal on their head, probably you don't want

752
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: to fuck with. Probably, Right, that's just a general rule.

753
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: You know, keeps you.

754
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: Saying she's just really into taxidermy Luke.

755
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: Right, you know, dude, my stepdad, have you ever lived

756
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: in a house where someone like mounted the animals that

757
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: they had killed. Like, I had a stepdad who.

758
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: Was no ran from a house.

759
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, dude, my stepdad, My stepdad. I mean

760
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: he's since passed away, and you know, this was my

761
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: mom's second marriage. But he had two bears and two

762
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: deer that he had had killed mounted in the house

763
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: all the way through, and then several racks. He would

764
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: keep the racks from some of the bucks he would

765
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: kill and then you know, rub them together to like

766
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: attract other bucks during like mating season and shit like

767
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: it was. It was a whole thing. It was a

768
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: whole thing.

769
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, nice rack. Yeah. Was that man a fight fan?

770
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: Like he's he sounds like a badass, Luke. Was he

771
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: a fight fan too?

772
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: He wasn't a fight fan. He was a police officer

773
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: in washed In DC for twenty years. Yeah they retired

774
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: and uh back the blue. Yeah yeah yeah yeah, all right,

775
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: all right.

776
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 2: Would he watch Morning Combat if he was still living?

777
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: No? No, No, No one who ostensibly pretends to care

778
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: about me at all cares about Morning Combat. So that's

779
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: just a yeah, it's just adversely proportion.

780
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: That's why this weird family that will inevitably track you

781
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: down and kill you and probably eat you. They're the

782
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: ones that that they're your real family, Luke, Okay, David.

783
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: In the end, in the end, I'm going to be

784
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: turned into Landjaeger covered and seemen, given to some other

785
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: podcast or to eat in Vegas. That's that's that's the life.

786
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 2: It's so inevitably Shakespearean that you will perish that way. Wow. Okay,

787
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: So Brandon Allen here, Uh, Paul Craig likes to bring

788
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: the fight to the ground, But did you see a

789
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: lot of improvement on anything in his middleweight debut against Munaz.

790
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: I didn't see a whole lot different. Mooney's has kind

791
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: of like collapsed. He had a great like showing against

792
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: what's his name now, I can't remember the guy that

793
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: was supposed to be the next Anderson Silva, not Felipe Nover,

794
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: but oh Jesus, my brain doesn't work anymore. Who did

795
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: he fucking beat?

796
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I could look it up, or I could

797
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: just watch you, you know, swim and die.

798
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: Just absolutely cannot get it done anyway. Muoni's looked pretty

799
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: good there then has kind of fallen apart. Hall, You're

800
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: righta Hall. Yeah, the guy who shoted on us at

801
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: the uh, the Jake Paul Presser.

802
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 2: He not only shit on us, he then like smeared

803
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: it on us and explained why he was shitting on

804
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: us like it was a full on like like stuff.

805
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: But he finished the interview, so I got to respect.

806
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: That he did finish the interview, which is the most

807
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: important part. So you know, hey, I didn't even end

808
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: up remembering his name, so I guess you know we

809
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: went in the end, but neither here nor THEREBC. What

810
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: the fuck was the question? Oh? Yeah, how did he look?

811
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. I didn't notice a big

812
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: difference in his style. The question is like, does losing

813
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 1: the twenty pounds give you just enough of a dialing

814
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 1: up in the physicality of it to make it go better,

815
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: to make it work better. Maybe maybe that's the case,

816
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: maybe against his last five maybe obviously against Moone's they

817
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: have a similar opponent. Maybe that's what you saw, but

818
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure. Also, Brendan Allen is very good

819
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: on the ground. In fact, I think he's actually better

820
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: on the ground, at least up to this point. We

821
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: should say he's been better on the ground than he

822
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: has been on the feet. I just mentioned last three

823
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: wins all but I think mostly Bruni could choke. So

824
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: you know, the thing is like pulling guard on that

825
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: guy if he decides to indulge you and you know,

826
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: maybe make a mistake by just not taking it seriously.

827
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,959
Speaker 1: I could see a problem there. But it's gonna be weird.

828
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a weird grappling battle where you

829
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: know you're just an all likelihood bar Jew is gonna

830
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: pull guard and then I don't really know what to

831
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: expect from that point.

832
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 2: I mean, would you think that even though Paul Craig

833
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: can throw a little, certainly not his calling card. And

834
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: on top of that, a lot of his fights start

835
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: with him getting his ass kicked down the feet Luke,

836
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: and then he takes care of people on the ground.

837
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: Is this is it gonna be really bad for him

838
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 2: if this is a kickboxing match, or or do you

839
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: think there's an improvement that we just haven't seen break

840
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:54,959
Speaker 2: out yet.

841
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: I don't think it's I don't think it's a disaster

842
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: for either guy. If it's a pardon me, if it's

843
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: kickboxing match, I would favor I would favor Brendan Allen

844
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: in a kickboxing contest, probably, I think at this point. Uh,

845
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: but that's I guess we'll have to see. But on

846
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: the ground, if i'm if I'm, I mean, here's the thing.

847
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: What does what does Paul Craig do? He gets underneath,

848
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: pulls guard, sits there, takes punishment, and then waits for

849
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: guys to overcommit, and then makes some kind of capitalization there,

850
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: whether it's a triangle, whether he takes the back, whether

851
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: it's he just swims for an armbar. It's sort of

852
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: presupposed on letting him take damage so that guys get

853
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: overly confident then make mistakes, like against Nikita Krilofv. Krilov

854
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: was landing on him, but what did he do? He

855
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: got a two on one feet on the hips, stretched

856
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: him out and then triangled him up. Is Brendan Allen

857
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: that guy, I'd be surprised. I mean, it would, it would.

858
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: It would require for that to happen. It would just require,

859
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: like it does for everybody else, for Brendan Allen to

860
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: make a clear mistake on the ground, which of course

861
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: anybody can do. Relative to Krilov, I think he's much

862
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: more technically strong in these positions, so it's a tough

863
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: it's a tough fight for Paul Craig.

864
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 2: Good fight, Good Fight. Number ten is Brendan Allen in

865
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: the UFC middleweight rankings, Craig thirteen after that debuting victory, Luke,

866
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 2: When you look at the rest of this card, I'm

867
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: not gonna hate on it. Last weekend's pay per view

868
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: was freaking fast, fantastic. This card, though, outside of a

869
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: couple items that look a little tasty or at least

870
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 2: one half of some of these matchups are a little tasty.

871
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: And no that's not necessarily just the female fights. What

872
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 2: stands out to you anything you care about on here?

873
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, gotta be Jake Matthews and Michael Morales. I mean,

874
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: just no question about it. Michael Morales. Yeah, well, I

875
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: mean here comes Ecuador. Everybody. You obviously have chicito vera

876
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: out there. Michael Morales is gonna be one of these guys.

877
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: BC has takedown defense above ninety percent. Physically what a

878
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: freak athlete, very strong, heavy hitter, and he was tested

879
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: a lot and by the way, only what does he

880
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: said twenty four years of age BC, He was tested

881
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: a little bit. That Max Griffin win, but it really really,

882
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: I think showed what he was made of. Thinks he

883
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: has to work on as well, but showed what he

884
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: was made of. Excellent judo, excellent wrestling, physically strong. To me,

885
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: of all of the candidates out of South America, and

886
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: that includes Brazil like top prospects, I'm paying attention to,

887
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: Michael Morales might be close to or at the top

888
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: of that list. He has so many things you would

889
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: want in terms of having a combat of sports background

890
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: and then all of the physical tools to pull it off.

891
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: Will he train the right way? Will he actually make

892
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: good on this promise? Only time will tell. But Jake Matthews,

893
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 1: a guy out of Australia who's been good but then

894
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: up and down a little bit more recently after having

895
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: a bit of a change in style, was an all

896
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: grapple kind of guy and now can really slug it

897
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: out in the feet. Is coming off that win over

898
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: Darius Flowers, but he kind of got roughed up against Semmelsberger,

899
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: who's a sort of tough physical fighter out of this area.

900
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: Michael Morales can be that as well. So this is

901
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: going to be a test of I think the ground

902
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: game a little bit. Morales is going to be a

903
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: test of the scrambling and again test of some of

904
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: the physicality, some of the decision making too around to

905
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: what extent do you want to strike with him on

906
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: his terms versus yours. Love this fight, love what it means.

907
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 1: But Michael Morales very high on that guy. Good challenge

908
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: here on Saturday, nhout out.

909
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 2: Put the Luke Thomas circle around this one minus two

910
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: ninety five. Your fan duel favorite is Morales plus two

911
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: twenty Jake Matthews Luke. I'm gonna be watching the reality

912
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 2: series that is Chase Hooper's MMA career. Thus far, the

913
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: twenty four year old has had some highs and lows.

914
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 2: He's split wins and losses in his last six fights,

915
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: and even when he wins, here's where I gotta give

916
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 2: him a little bit credit. Not a complete fighter, still incomplete,

917
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 2: growing in front of us. But even when he wins, Luke,

918
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: he takes a lot of damage. I mean, he's he's

919
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: bout it about it, even though his striking game is

920
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: not nearly on the level of his ground game. He's lanky,

921
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: he's aggressive, he'll take big shots, and he's been fighting here,

922
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 2: He's been fighting. How about that for English, Luke, he's

923
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 2: been fighting Jordan Levy love it. Hey, Yeah, the twenty

924
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: four year old Chase Hooper here. In your odds on

925
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: this one minus two thirty five Hooper the favorite, Jordan

926
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 2: Levitt plus one point eighty. Are you leaning either way

927
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: in this matchup?

928
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: Luke? Probably? I do like Chase Hooper. I think he's

929
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: a smart kid, and I think he's He does obviously

930
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: have great grappling ability, but the physicality I think has

931
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: been an issue for him, and.

932
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: The head movement Luke has been a little bit of

933
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: an issue.

934
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, striking defense not his strong suit up

935
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: to this point, so it's really sort of curious to

936
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: see what he's done between fights up to this point.

937
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: I'd probably lean Jordan Levitt. I do think he's a

938
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: little bit older, got a little bit more man strength,

939
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: that kind of a thing. Good good grappler as well,

940
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: So probably him. But it's an interesting contest.

941
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it a lot. I want to see

942
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: where Hooper's going because he's fun. He's I don't know,

943
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 2: he's he's becoming a weird TV fighter. He doesn't have

944
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 2: the typical style that would scream TV fighter, but he's

945
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: becoming that because he takes wild chances, he gets beat

946
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: up and comes back. It's interesting. Do you care at

947
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 2: all about anything else on this card, Luke, because I

948
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: could tell you about a Manda he Boss all you want?

949
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he Boss fight against Pinero is a great

950
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: contest as well a tough one too, man, he Boss.

951
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: You know, she had a tough fight against Macy Barber.

952
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily what she's going up against them here,

953
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: but Pinero is is real good. Like that's a you know,

954
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: he Boss had this moment, man, a moment in time

955
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: where she was like, Okay, here's this contender on the rise.

956
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: She'll get a title shot before too long. And it

957
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: just hasn't exactly worked out that way. She has not

958
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: like completely fumbled it and been derailed. But it's not gone,

959
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: I would say. According to Plant also Euro Schmititch on

960
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: this card should be a fun contest for him.

961
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: He Boss minus two sixty five your favorite the plus

962
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: two hundred Pinero across from her, who's fresh off a

963
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: split decision went over Michelle Gomez. Waterson has won all

964
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 2: three of her UFC fights after winning on the Contender series.

965
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: He Boss has like Hooper, split wins and losses in

966
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: her last six now thirty years old. I know she

967
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: kind of bounced back and forth through both divisions. Let's

968
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: see if she can find some momentum here. That's about

969
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 2: it for this UFC card. I can't allow any more

970
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 2: time to this, Luke, I can't.

971
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah no, there's no yeah no, I'm good.

972
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: Thanks all right. Let's go to topic number three. And

973
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: you may not know it. There's a pretty damn good

974
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: boxing card Thursday night ESPN and ESPN plus Las Vegas

975
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: top ranked doubleheader at T Mobile Arena. And the reason,

976
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: of course, is because F one comes to Las Vegas

977
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: this weekend. And Luke, people love the shit out of

978
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 2: F one because of that reality show. Like people that

979
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 2: aren't even sports fans in my life are like, oh,

980
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: just see who won the race. I'm like, what race?

981
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: I haven't watched races since Dale Junior met Turn four

982
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 2: down to Daytona.

983
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't mean much like black people and white people,

984
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: I don't see race.

985
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 2: But Luke, this doubleheader's pretty damn badass. Your co main

986
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: event is Emmanuel Navarete defending his one hundred and thirty

987
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: pound title against Ropes and Conseisaw The twenty sixteen gold

988
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: medalists from Brazil who yes, he's lost Oscar Valdez and

989
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: Shakers Stevenson, but he's very skilled at age thirty five

990
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 2: after the long amateur career. So that's a really good

991
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 2: co main fight to see where Navarette's at, to see

992
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 2: if Navaretti, by the way, is being maybe set up

993
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: to be a future Shaquurse Stevenson opponent. But Luke Shaquer

994
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: Stevenson's got to win the main event, the vacant WBC

995
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: lightweight title at stake because Devin Haney has given up

996
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 2: all four of his belts to move up to one

997
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: forty and fight Regis Progray. So Shaquer Stevenson thought it

998
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 2: might be Frank Martin. There were other names thrown around.

999
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: The guy who says yes though, is Edwin del Santos

1000
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: from the Dominican Republic, a Southpaus slugger who's quick in

1001
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 2: riding some big momentum here. So Shaquer is going for

1002
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: a world title in his third weeight division. Delo Santo's

1003
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: trying to continue to shock the world. Luke Stevenson versus

1004
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: Edwin here, what stands out to you? What are you

1005
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: looking for? Because you know me I'm not a chakour dude, man,

1006
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 2: Like this guy's the next poundful pound king. He's freaking

1007
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 2: common Luke.

1008
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: All right, So there's good news and bad news about

1009
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: this matchup. The good news is, obviously sha Kursteve and

1010
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: arguably the most talented box are alive. I mean, I

1011
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 1: realize he's not pound pound number one, but the kind

1012
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: of skills he shows folks puts him in that conversation.

1013
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: And then you got Edwin del Santos. He'd be like,

1014
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: I don't know who the fuck this guy is. Well,

1015
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: let me tell you he can thump. I mean, my

1016
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: man can punch. If he can't do much else, he

1017
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: can definitely punch and is scrappy as well, Like this

1018
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: is a good fighter on top of it. But here's

1019
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: the bad news BC. While Delo Santos can thump and

1020
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: there's no question about that, dude, Stevenson is like the

1021
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: hardest guy to hit maybe in boxing. He just doesn't

1022
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 1: take punches clean at all or very very very rarely.

1023
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: He is hard to touch, but he doesn't run. He

1024
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: stands in front of you though.

1025
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: No, no, what I mean is he just again with

1026
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: that he's got a shoulder roll style where he just

1027
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 1: catches everything like he's hard to find, he's hard to

1028
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: land clean on. It's just hard to do anything against him.

1029
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: And so it's like, while I appreciate the kind of

1030
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: danger that typically Del Santos provides in these contests, am

1031
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: I convinced that Stevenson's the guy who is, you know,

1032
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: gonna be susceptible to this kind of thing? I gotta

1033
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: tell you, I don't think that. So I don't think

1034
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: it's like a bullshit Matt. I don't want to say

1035
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: it's not a bullshit matchup. That's not my argument. It's just, dude,

1036
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: like when you've got a guy whose defense is this

1037
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: lights out knockout power just ain't enough. It just ain' right.

1038
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why. I'm excited. Though, when they announced

1039
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 2: this instead of Frank Martin, remember Martin pulled out, we

1040
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: never really found out like what the real reasoning was.

1041
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: It was it was a step down. So it was like, oh, man,

1042
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: I wanted you know, I wanted that, But this is

1043
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: still a really good fight. So if you know how good.

1044
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 2: Shakhur is the silver medalist in the twenty sixteen Olympics.

1045
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: He's now twenty and oh with ten Ko's still just

1046
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: twenty six years old in my top ten pounds for

1047
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 2: pound titles and two waight divisions South Paul long Arms.

1048
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 2: But even with that defense man, especially his last four fights,

1049
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: he stands right in front of you now, so he's

1050
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: bringing the fight to people. Yes, the odds, which are

1051
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 2: always more inflated than boxing compared to MMA, are gonna

1052
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: tell you how good Shakur is. He's a minus thirteen

1053
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 2: hundred betting favorite according to FanDuel, with De Lo Santos

1054
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: plus seven to twenty. But I don't think that perfectly

1055
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 2: tells you the story of the fight. Should should shakurr

1056
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 2: win this fight? He's so skilled that I think he's

1057
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 2: gonna win against anybody. I want to find out, Well

1058
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 2: he one day end up at Welterwait, like, how high

1059
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 2: can this guy go? Yes, he should win, but I

1060
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: don't know. If you saw Shakur's last fight, that was

1061
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: his lightweight debut against Schuicerro Yoshino in April. Yoshino was

1062
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 2: kind of mouth and off all week at the press

1063
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: conference as an interview, saying, Shakur Camponchi's featherfisted, I'm not

1064
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 2: scared of him. Stevens took that shit to heart, brought

1065
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 2: the fight to him and you got to see some

1066
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: of that like nasty streak and he ended up stopping

1067
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: him in round six. Well, Lukes, to some degree, Team

1068
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: de Losantos has really stirred the pot. Top Rank has

1069
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: their own version of like Showtime All Access or HBO

1070
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven called Blood, Sweat and Tears, and

1071
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: it's really good and I don't think anyone talks about

1072
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 2: it enough. But the episode this time srgi a close

1073
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 2: up at who Delo Santos is. If you don't know him.

1074
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: I happen to have called two of his fights on Showbox.

1075
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 2: But that team in the trainer Cello Bettencourt, they're like

1076
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: talking shit. They're like, oh, Stevenson's a bum, they're watching

1077
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: his tape. They get up, they turn the TV off

1078
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 2: and walk off and make fun of him like they're

1079
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 2: ster in the pod. And these two had a hell

1080
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: of a face off this week where on Tuesday's press

1081
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 2: conference where Shaker was basically like, you done fucked up.

1082
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: I promise I'm going to put you to sleep. So

1083
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 2: when he's got that attitude and demeanor against a guy

1084
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: who can thump but also has quick feet and can

1085
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 2: box a little bit too. And I know you said, okay,

1086
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: who is del Santos beat? Well, I did call his

1087
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 2: only loss that was in twenty twenty two on Showbox

1088
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: against unbeaten prospect William Foster the Third, but it's what

1089
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 2: he has done since then. He knocked out on beating

1090
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 2: Luisa Costa. A couple months later in a Showbox return,

1091
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 2: moved up to Showtime Championship and gave jose Vealezuela his

1092
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 2: first defeat by knockout, and then he went ten hard

1093
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: rounds in which he dominated Joseph Dorno, who's a tough

1094
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 2: out for anybody. So like he's here, and by the way,

1095
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: he got dropped in that fight against Adorno too, so

1096
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 2: he's like nothing to lose, confident in as hell. And

1097
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 2: you might say, yeah, he's got a puncher's chance because

1098
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 2: Shakur is that good. But Delo Santos is more skilled

1099
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: than the average puncher's chance. Guy. This could be a

1100
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: real fight, Luke. I mean, obviously it would need Shakur

1101
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: to get hit and some things to happen. But before

1102
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to put that number one Palfer pound in waiting,

1103
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 2: hat on him, even though I'll keep teasing it. It's

1104
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 2: like you need to see him in these kind of matchups.

1105
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 2: He's up in his third way class. He's got a very,

1106
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 2: very capable guy across from him. This could be interesting,

1107
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 2: this could get fun. Now. I caught up with Shakur

1108
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 2: this week, and I know you might be saying if

1109
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 2: you haven't seen him fight, well, what does make this

1110
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 2: kid special? I asked Shakura that himself. You can check

1111
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 2: out the full interview of course YouTube dot com Slash

1112
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: Morning Combat. Let's hear from Stevenson. All right, third way class.

1113
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: You made your debut at lightweight. You looked absolutely spectacular.

1114
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: Is there any difference at thirty five from the Shakur

1115
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: we've seen winning world titles at twenty six and one

1116
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty pounds.

1117
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 3: Yes, there's a big difference.

1118
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 4: Honestly, I think the biggest difference is that I'm more focused.

1119
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 3: I think that.

1120
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 4: I don't have to cut that much weight. Making weight

1121
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 4: is real easy for me. I just think it's a

1122
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 4: whole different focus.

1123
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 2: Right now, does your power increase when you move up

1124
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 2: and wait?

1125
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it increased for me just because I

1126
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 4: don't have to suck down too far. So right now,

1127
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm fighting at mine naturally weight class,

1128
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 4: and guys may be bigger than me, but they coming

1129
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 4: down from the one sixties and fighting want thirty five.

1130
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 4: And I don't think that shit worked like that.

1131
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 2: Well, look, that was the wrong clip based on what

1132
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: I teaed up. But could you get a little taste

1133
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: there of like the not just the confidence, but like

1134
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: the attitude that he's bringing. Let's remember people are pulling

1135
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: out of fights with him left and right. I mean

1136
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 2: Devin Haney, you could argue kind of avoided him even

1137
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 2: though he wanted to leave lightweight anyway to go take

1138
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: a tough fight against Progray. But like, there's a lot

1139
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 2: of shit talking from Shakurr in my interview about that topic.

1140
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: He seems like he looks ready to hurt people nowadays.

1141
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean here's the thing, right, b see, Like

1142
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: whether you want to say Hany duck dum or Frank

1143
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 1: Martin ducked him, whatever the truth is, whatever you want

1144
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: to say. If you were asked a question about who

1145
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: is the most ducked fighter in boxing, who is that guy?

1146
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: How would the answer be anything other than Shaquer Stevenson.

1147
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't even know who to put as a

1148
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: close second. To be honest with you, he is terrifying

1149
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: to fight, not because he has Tank Davis power or

1150
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: something like that. He doesn't. Tank is very much a

1151
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,439
Speaker 1: unique force. But Stevenson's at this weird spot where he's

1152
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: quite visibly extremely talented but hasn't put together like the

1153
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: fan base or the momentum of the pay per view

1154
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: attraction like in the ways Tank or now Devin Hayne's

1155
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: kind of putting together as well, to make him like

1156
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: a prized person to seek out, even though you know,

1157
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: we know about his championship accolades as well. So I

1158
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: think we see if he can start putting together some KOs.

1159
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: If you can start playing together some good stoppages, not

1160
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 1: just like technically marvelous performances, and he can turn himself

1161
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: into like a fan attraction, that might change his fortunes.

1162
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: But people don't want to fight this guy because it

1163
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: fucking sucks to do it. Get it.

1164
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: Well, He does have the stoppage win over Jamel Herring

1165
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 2: to win that title at one thirty. He put a

1166
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 2: masterclass on Oscar Valdez over twelve rounds. Has a really

1167
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 2: nice win over Robeson Conseesa, who's in the Comain event

1168
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,479
Speaker 2: on Thursday night. He needs more to get that full

1169
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: pow for pound wreck. You know, consideration, Mikey, can you

1170
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 2: play the other sharkor clip talking about his skill set

1171
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 2: and what makes him so special.

1172
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 4: I think that I can do anything. I think that

1173
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 4: I can fight inside the pocket. I think the part

1174
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 4: that they forget about is if I need to.

1175
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 3: Use my movement like.

1176
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 4: The back in the day fighters, like Sugar Ray Leonard

1177
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 4: did to Duran the second fight. I could do stuff

1178
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 4: like that. I can box. I don't think there's nothing

1179
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 4: that I can't do when I get inside of botching me.

1180
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: Look, we haven't had to see the full dog come

1181
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 2: out because we haven't seen someone really equal him and

1182
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 2: force him into a brawl. We've seen him more in

1183
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 2: action spots when he's in the lead, when he's you know,

1184
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 2: taking people apart. But I think that dog's in there now.

1185
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if his power is gonna keep carrying up,

1186
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: but he must see every time, and even if he

1187
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 2: goes in there and destroys and outclasses de Lilas Santos,

1188
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 2: he may have to knock that guy out to do it.

1189
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, This could be something interesting,

1190
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 2: that's all, you know.

1191
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: That's where I yea. We will see how the power carries.

1192
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: We will There's lots of like unknowns about some of

1193
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff, fair enough, But when you call

1194
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: him must it's like, dude, there's not in terms of

1195
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: technically talented fighters in boxing, he's what would you say,

1196
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: ABC top three? You know what I mean? Like the

1197
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: gad the craftiness and the sharpness of details, this is

1198
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: what this is. This is the guy that just shits

1199
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: on this MMA argument that you always fucking hear when

1200
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: the MMA fighters go and they train boxing and you're like, oh,

1201
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: it's so much easier, it's so much easier. I feel

1202
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: so much better. Well, yes, it is less wear and

1203
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 1: tear on your body, that is true. It definitely feels

1204
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: easier and you're only doing one discipline. That's gotta feel

1205
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: so good to just be able to focus and you

1206
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: get better quicker at that kind when you do it

1207
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 1: that way versus having to spread yourself thin. But like Shaker,

1208
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: Stevenson is the one that just makes those arguments look

1209
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: as dumb as they always are, because not only can

1210
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: he just do more things in the boxing ring than

1211
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: you are accustomed to looking at, even including other professional boxers.

1212
00:56:54,080 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: The razor sharpness of the detail, timing, accuracy, all of it.

1213
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: He has that in ways that most other When I

1214
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: say most, I mean ninety nine point nine percent of

1215
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: other boxers, professional active boxers don't have. His fucking skill

1216
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: is so extraordinary. When you call him must watch, it

1217
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: is not an exaggeration.

1218
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: He is that guy and it could be a must

1219
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 2: watch where it's one sided and maybe not overly exciting,

1220
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 2: but there's a Floyd level. He's the only guy. HAINI

1221
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 2: a little bit. Some parts of Hani remind me of Floyd,

1222
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 2: but I always hesitate to compare anyone to Floyd, because.

1223
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: Hani's not that guy for me. Haini's not that I respect,

1224
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: I understand. But Stevenson, Stevenson is that guy.

1225
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 2: Right, And maybe you could argue again as even though

1226
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 2: the pro Gray fight is great for haniy and I

1227
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 2: know he was growing out of the division, it seems

1228
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 2: like he had the chance to fight Stevenson and if

1229
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: he really wanted to, it would have been a no brainer.

1230
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: He chose not to. Maybe that tells you something too.

1231
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's also a business. They're strategical moves.

1232
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, Shakurr is unique and special unto himself, so

1233
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: we'll see here. Man. I'm so fired up by the way,

1234
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 2: when talking about who compares to somebody else or who

1235
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 2: reminds you of someone else. I caught up with Hall

1236
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 2: of Famer Andre Ward as well this week and watch

1237
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 2: the full interview. And one thing I did ask him

1238
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 2: was when he watches boxing today, he's a great TV

1239
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 2: analyst who reminds him of the SG Let's hear it.

1240
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: Do you see little snippets of what made you made

1241
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: you great in certain guys and who do you identify

1242
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 2: sometimes that you're like, ooh, I can relate to that.

1243
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, know, I definitely do.

1244
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 5: And I think one of the you know, young guys

1245
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 5: that I identify with the most is probably Skor Stevenson.

1246
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, because when you get into the business of boxing,

1247
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 3: sometimes you.

1248
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 5: Can lose your love for it because there's just so

1249
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 5: many politics and so many things you got to deal with.

1250
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 5: When I'm around him, he reminds me of that ten eleven,

1251
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 5: twelve thirteen fourteen year old Andre that just wanted to

1252
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 5: go home and watch the fights.

1253
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 3: Everything was boxing, box and boxing. He's like that, Like.

1254
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 5: He just loves to spar, he loves to in the

1255
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 5: he just loves everything about boxing. So I identify from

1256
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 5: that respect. And you know, he's sort of a pretty

1257
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 5: boy with a lot of heart. They misread him, you

1258
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 5: know what I mean, because of the dimples and him

1259
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 5: smiling and stuff, and they get it twisted and they

1260
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 5: misread me a lot like that too. But he's got

1261
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 5: a fire in him and he's answered, you know, the

1262
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 5: call every time he was pressing. I believe if he's

1263
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 5: ever in a dog fighter, every in one of those

1264
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 5: kind of fights, I believe he's gonna respond the right way,

1265
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 5: just the same way that I did.

1266
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 2: Now full disclosure. Award is like a co manager of Shakurse,

1267
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 2: so they are very close and you can check out

1268
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: that full interview, Like I mentioned thirty minutes with the

1269
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: sog about his new book and the future of his

1270
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 2: post retirement career. But Luke, the bad last thing I

1271
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 2: can say on Shakur is when we used to watch

1272
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 2: Vince Young, like go watch Vince Young highlights, the old

1273
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 2: quarterback in Texas and the.

1274
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: When you say Vince Young, Howards you mean like college highlights.

1275
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 2: Or I mean college highlights and the highlights from his

1276
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 2: rookie season with the Titans, and he is so dynamic

1277
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 2: when he runs that correct me if I'm wrong. It

1278
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 2: looks like he's gliding. It doesn't even look like he's

1279
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 2: sprinting or going at some extreme speed, but it says

1280
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 2: if everybody around him slows down and he just glides through.

1281
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 2: There's some element of that when you watch Shakur because

1282
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 2: it's not like overly flashy, but the timing is just

1283
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 2: so on point that it looks like he's kind of

1284
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 2: just out there flicking his hands. And dude, the way

1285
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 2: he can slip in shots through your guard as you're moving,

1286
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 2: I mean, it is just it's brilliant.

1287
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: I'll say this, He's the most impressive thing to ever

1288
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: come out of Newark, you know, Yeah, I can say that.

1289
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, unless you're impressed by communicative diseases inside

1290
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 2: of a train station, you know, if that impresses you, Wow,

1291
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 2: they might.

1292
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: Be tougher, the communicable diseases might be tougher, but he's

1293
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: the most interesting. I can certainly say that.

1294
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, my chat with Shaker, we go deep on

1295
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 2: Sean O'Malley and these MMA fighters that want to box.

1296
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 2: A lot of incendiary comments in there, Navarete. Luke will

1297
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 2: bring his thirty three fight win streak in here against

1298
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 2: conse Saw. That's a good fight, so don't miss that

1299
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 2: one as well. Luke. Let's transition here to a new

1300
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 2: segment over under his back. It's not new, but we

1301
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 2: haven't touched this in a while. We're gonna look at

1302
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: the latest headlines and frame them properly. Thank you Mikey

1303
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 2: Moore Mile for the build here. Let's get into it.

1304
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 2: We don't have an intro or anything, but this is

1305
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 2: over under number one. Luke Thomas. Mike Cobbinger of ESPN

1306
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 2: reporting what Dan Rayfield did a few days earlier, February seventeenth.

1307
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 2: The announcement is expected tomorrow for Tyson Fury versus Alexander

1308
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 2: Usik the four belt unification undisputed first time at heavyweight,

1309
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be in Saudi Arabia. Today there's a

1310
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 2: press conference announcing the December twenty third Frank warrencart in

1311
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia that will have Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua

1312
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 2: in separate fights. By the way, fights they actually could lose.

1313
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 2: Joseph Parker is gonna fight Wilder, Atto Valeen is gonna

1314
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 2: fight Joshua.

1315
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: Don't do it.

1316
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: There's a lot other big names on that card, but

1317
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 2: that's not what I'm here to talk about. Luke, Saudi

1318
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 2: is in business after Fury versus Joshua in the boxing space,

1319
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 2: they're keeping it going. But over under amount of Saudi

1320
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 2: Arabian boxing cards that will take place in twenty twenty four,

1321
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,439
Speaker 2: and I'm talking about the pay per view level here,

1322
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 2: four and a half over under on how big a

1323
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 2: player you expect them to be next year.

1324
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, let me just say boxing fans

1325
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: are the most like gullible fucking I mean, it's like, hey,

1326
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: we want, we want X versus Y to fight, and

1327
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: then the promoters make like X versus you know something,

1328
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: not even approximating why, and they're like, well, I ordered

1329
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: steak from the waiter, but he brought jello. I'll just

1330
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: have this delicious jail. No, motherfucker, I ordered steak. The

1331
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: fuck are y'all doing.

1332
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 2: Luke, There's only two ways you end up, or three

1333
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: ways you end up as a boxing fan. One you

1334
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 2: get the hell out the first time they break your heart.

1335
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 2: Two you love the sport, but all you ever do

1336
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 2: is ship on it, and you're as cynical as anyone,

1337
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 2: and you basically pollot boxing Twitter, which is fun. But

1338
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 2: wild or three. You gotta be like me, Luke, you

1339
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 2: gotta find that hashtag vibes. You gotta find that Silver

1340
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 2: Linings playbook and and and get in there with with

1341
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 2: Bradley and that chick.

1342
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: It's just it's just on the Auto Violein fight with Aj,

1343
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: It's like, I recognize that's a tough fight and like

1344
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: a good fight in that I'm not I'm not mad

1345
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: at the fight. But the thing I want to point

1346
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: out is, dude, there wasn't a motherfucking soul on planet

1347
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: Earth who was like, dude, we gotta see AJ versus

1348
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: Auto Violin. Everyone's like, yeah, I'll take this. You. This

1349
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: is you went to the drive through and you ordered

1350
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: the Happy Meal and they just fucking chuck the mcflurry

1351
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: in your face.

1352
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 2: That's not a joke. Is it a joke that we're

1353
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 2: slow playing Wilder versus Joshua fight? That's like seven years

1354
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 2: too late. After I mean to Zone offer Deontae ae

1355
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 2: hundred million to come over to fight Joshua two or

1356
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 2: three times. Yeah, it's a joke that they're slow playing,

1357
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 2: but they're doing it. These are interesting matchups that could

1358
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 2: f up the Wilder versus Joshua eventuality. Is that smart? No,

1359
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 2: But Luke, people want to cash big checks from Saudi

1360
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 2: and they're showing up for it.

1361
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: So to answer the question, I will take the under

1362
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: on this one, but just barely. I think that they

1363
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 1: will get four in the calendar year, basically one a quarter,

1364
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,439
Speaker 1: which is pretty good. I don't think they'll get much

1365
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: more than that, but they're gonna be active. It's the

1366
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: new hotness. We've talked about it extensively. So yeah, I

1367
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: would expect at least four, certainly for next year.

1368
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 2: Does this count Jake Paul level fights or like, like

1369
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 2: any is this cover all of boxing or just like

1370
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 2: quote unquote real box.

1371
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: I would say that you have to have at least

1372
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 1: one kind of a list guy in the main event

1373
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: for this to count in the way you're talking.

1374
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, like if it, yeah, like something on

1375
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 2: the level of Jake Paul versus Natz, Yeah, I'd accept that.

1376
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 2: All right. Let's go to number two, Luke. So John Kavanaugh,

1377
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 2: trainer of Connor McGregor, SAT down in person with Ariel

1378
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: on the MMA Hour updating the status about Connor's return.

1379
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 2: We're all debating whether it could be April for UFC

1380
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 2: three hundred. John says, we were hoping for April. That

1381
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 2: was the hope, that was what we were told, and

1382
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 2: now it seems to be this summertime. I don't know why.

1383
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 2: That's literally what we were having a bit of back

1384
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 2: and forth toward about yees today. Excuse me end quote.

1385
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 2: He went on to say he was worried about Connor's

1386
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 2: potential mental health with this delay. But Luke Thomas, you

1387
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,479
Speaker 2: can just as well argue that this delay is only

1388
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 2: there because three hundred will probably sell itself and not

1389
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 2: necessarily need Connor, so that can be International Fight Week

1390
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 2: or something standalone altogether. So let's put it like this, though,

1391
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 2: based on that news eight months over or under on

1392
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 2: Connor McGregor's actual return, eight months would put us, by

1393
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 2: the way, right in the middle of July for International

1394
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:54,439
Speaker 2: Fight Week.

1395
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,479
Speaker 1: I'll take the under. I'll take the under. I don't

1396
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: know exactly what he's going to come back. I heard

1397
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: those comments as well, the ones you just read to

1398
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: the audience. There's no way they make him wait into August.

1399
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: I would just be so surprised. I think that they'll

1400
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: they'll find use for him before that. He's chopping at

1401
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: the bit. The program for Usada ends in you know,

1402
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: six weeks or basically something like that. Yeah, I'll take

1403
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: the under on that one, where I don't know, I

1404
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: can't predict that with that kind of specificity, but I

1405
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: would just be very surprised if they didn't because if dude,

1406
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: if you haul him out in August and it's a

1407
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: tough fight or whatever, you may not get him back

1408
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: for the rest of the year. Like, wouldn't you at

1409
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: least want to give yourself the opportunity to get two

1410
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: Connor mcgregord fights next year? They may not be any

1411
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 1: I understand that, but I'm saying, at a bare minimum

1412
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: from a scheduling standpoint, wouldn't you want the option to

1413
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 1: do that? Like, I just don't sy.

1414
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna say this again. Why has

1415
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 2: he not fought yet? I mean, I guess you could

1416
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 2: the answer could be Usada, but I think even beyond Usada, dude,

1417
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 2: Connor like took Okay, I guess I can't say this

1418
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 2: because he came back from a devastating injury. So in reality,

1419
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:02,959
Speaker 2: take as long as you want, like until you feel good.

1420
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 2: But doesn't it seem like he's taken forever, Luke, Like

1421
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 2: taken forever, Like the tough season already came and went.

1422
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 2: You know, you could just say you sada usada. But

1423
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 2: he could have gotten the pool, dude, he could have

1424
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:13,919
Speaker 2: gotten the pool.

1425
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 1: I mean, the reality is this lot we talked about

1426
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: this dude. His life is in a different place. He's

1427
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 1: in a different place. It's just, you know, it's much

1428
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: easier to be a pro fighter when that's the only

1429
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: thing that matters to you. But when you're a family

1430
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: man and you've got kids, and you're rich as balls

1431
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 1: and you don't have to do any of that and

1432
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: you're and you're injured, Like, why the fuck would you

1433
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: hurry back? I get it?

1434
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 2: I do, all right, Luke. There's a report out there.

1435
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 2: I'm not sure who to attribute this to, but you

1436
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 2: kind of teased it the other day. It looks like

1437
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 2: January thirteenth. According to sources, the USC Vegas eighty three

1438
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 2: Fight Night card will have the rematch Mago met uncliav

1439
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 2: versus Johnny Walker. After that first fight, Uh did not

1440
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 2: produce a result and didnak Alive cheat Luke, Yeah, I

1441
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 2: guess he kind of cheated, right.

1442
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: Either he cheated or he was being like insanely negligent

1443
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: one of the two picking.

1444
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 2: Okay, So, Luke, there's chaos within this division, as we

1445
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 2: already know. So the over under on amount of victories

1446
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 2: the winner of an kalaiav. Walker would need to get

1447
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 2: a title shot. The number I'm offering you is one

1448
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 2: half over under on securing a title show.

1449
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: So after so like after this fight, how many more

1450
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: after this fight would they need? Yeah, I'll take the under.

1451
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: Uh oh no, no, wait wait, you have point five as

1452
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: the under over right as the number one?

1453
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you're taking the under, you're saying this

1454
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:36,879
Speaker 2: is a number one contention.

1455
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: I thought you said it was one and a half.

1456
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 1: So if it's just zero point five, I will take

1457
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: the over. I will take the over. I think you

1458
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: think one more. Yeah?

1459
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 2: Interesting, I mean you do have Jamal Hill on line

1460
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 2: with potentially out of Sonya behind him, and a lot

1461
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 2: of our fans. By the way, Luke, I mean I

1462
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 2: deserve white belt slander a lot of the time, but

1463
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 2: a lot of fans trying to whip me with that

1464
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 2: white leather belt over saying out of Sonya. Move up

1465
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: to two five. Yet the odds just came out from

1466
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 2: the offshore books. Luke Adasania is the early betting favorite barely, yes,

1467
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 2: but that but that you know that he just knocked

1468
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 2: the guy out. Just remember that. All right, there you go. Uh,

1469
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 2: let's keep it going here. Leon Edwards talked to Sky

1470
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 2: Sports in the UK.

1471
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: This one set the internet on fire.

1472
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, so here we go. We're talking about two division champions. Here,

1473
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 2: here's the quote one, we have.

1474
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:27,679
Speaker 1: The video, we have the video.

1475
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 2: Eh, good call on that one. Hey, let's let's hear

1476
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 2: from the source himself, Leon Edwards.

1477
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 6: I was thinking that now that is he is in

1478
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 6: a middleweight champion, that might open the door for you

1479
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 6: wanting to.

1480
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 7: Move definitely on the car feel and I think he's

1481
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 7: fighting so so any of them to be great to fight,

1482
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 7: you know.

1483
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 6: So how'd you think your match up with those big boys? Yeah,

1484
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 6: like that was perfect.

1485
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: You know.

1486
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 7: I feel like me, you're going out there being double champ,

1487
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 7: first ever from the UK and no to do it.

1488
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 6: That's definite one of my goals. So really that's not

1489
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 6: on the cost of show rough time frame, which I

1490
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:14,839
Speaker 6: think when we're just next.

1491
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 7: To act to be honest, really yeah, I mean next toork.

1492
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 7: Like I said, the division right now is no one

1493
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 7: that's like exciting and the division and also for me

1494
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 7: to go out there and to do.

1495
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 6: That, that was perfect. So beat Kobe Covington. Yeah, and

1496
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 6: then twenty twenty four, go to middleweight usurant to fight

1497
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,480
Speaker 6: the winner of Oh my God winner.

1498
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 7: Ye US four hundred. Allow that to put me in

1499
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 7: a carli with a massive you know, so yeah, I'll

1500
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,480
Speaker 7: be let's see, let's see.

1501
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 2: So look before I hit you with the over under here. Wow,

1502
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 2: I mean that's daring to be great. That that's big

1503
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 2: baller stuff, big marbles. Uh, what do you really think

1504
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 2: of Edward's chances fifteen pounds heavier?

1505
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 1: First of all, there's nothing left at welterweight. My guy,

1506
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 1: there's a guy who wears dead wolves on his head,

1507
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: who has seventeen wins and seventeen finishes. What in the

1508
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: fuck is he talking about? Couldn't be less true if

1509
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: he tried, couldn't be okay, But he said, couldn't be

1510
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: less true?

1511
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 2: Justify his want to be great and make a lot

1512
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 2: of money and do big shit.

1513
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, fine, I get that, But okay, so I

1514
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 1: get that on one level, because you've got Driggis Duplessi

1515
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 1: and Sean Strickland. As you're one of the two, you'd

1516
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 1: have to fight basically, right, so they're gonna fight winner

1517
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 1: of that. If Leon got his shot, if you're a

1518
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 1: welterweight guy, he's not a huge welterweight guy, And you're like, well,

1519
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: what chances would I have to get a belt up

1520
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 1: a weight class? What kind of fighter would there have

1521
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: to be? You know, Sean Strickland is something of a

1522
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: surprise champion surprised me too. You know, we all know

1523
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: the story DDP something of a surprise as well. You

1524
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:49,560
Speaker 1: might be like, well, if I'm gonna get one of

1525
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: my best chances against these guys, not against the IZ,

1526
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 1: He's not against the Robert Whitakers, even though I know

1527
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: they beat them, but you know, took a prime versus prime.

1528
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 1: That's one kind of thought. I think the bigger reality

1529
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 1: here is like the Connor McGregor has opened up Pandora's box,

1530
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: and what all of these guys want, this ultimate status

1531
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: and the ultimate kind of prize really at this point

1532
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: is to get as many belts as possible. No one's

1533
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 1: gotten three, but I think eventually someone will. That's what

1534
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 1: they're all gunning for. Essentially, at this point, I'm just

1535
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: gonna go back to it. It's like number one, I think.

1536
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 1: And also this sort of proves like the hardest thing

1537
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: to do is to stand a post and defend your

1538
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: title versus to jump and then just have a great

1539
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: night against a particular kind of guy on an individual event.

1540
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 1: But with shavkat Rokmanov in this division, it is criminally

1541
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 1: negligent to suggest that there's nothing left at welterweight to do.

1542
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 1: My guy, you got plenty of work.

1543
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 2: In front of One of these days, they're gonna have

1544
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 2: to let ball fight for the title as well.

1545
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm not even mentioned Yeah, okay, forget, forget. I mean,

1546
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 1: you're one hundred percent right.

1547
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 3: But.

1548
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: Please please yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, I understand. I'm

1549
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: simply pointing out, like even discounting that which we should

1550
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:04,600
Speaker 1: not do, but even discounting that seventeen and zero seventeen fights,

1551
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 1: seventeen finishes, please be serious with this.

1552
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't say anything because I've condon ly on

1553
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,879
Speaker 2: out every step of the way except for the Usman rematch.

1554
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 2: So no, I miss the thing.

1555
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 1: We're not counting him out. We're not saying he won't

1556
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 1: beat Sean stricklinor he won't be DDP, or he won't

1557
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 1: bet Blaw. We were not saying that. We're just saying,

1558
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: my guy, you've got one title defense. What are you

1559
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: talking about? What are you talking about?

1560
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 2: So, Luke over under is two? The number of Champ

1561
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 2: Champ fights that the UFC will promote in twenty twenty four.

1562
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 2: How many times will it be attempted? What we just saw.

1563
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 2: We just saw it. Volkanovsky just moved up and tried.

1564
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,719
Speaker 2: We've seen attempts a few times, right, we talk about

1565
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 2: nine people have have done it. Now when you add

1566
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 2: in Pereira, So how many attempts over under two?

1567
01:13:52,880 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 1: Perera Coco, limo nada. I'll take the under. I'll take

1568
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:06,759
Speaker 1: the under, okay. I just don't think they'll do three.

1569
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: I can't I can't see that two. I could see,

1570
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 1: you know, one, I could see three. Wow. Man, I

1571
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: don't know if they I just I don't think they

1572
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 1: have the calendar for that. I don't think they've got

1573
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 1: the row. I don't know what. I don't know if

1574
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 1: they don't have the roster Ford, I don't know which

1575
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: organization would. Yeah, I'll take the under.

1576
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 2: I'll take the Mikey dropping bombs on Leon. We're running

1577
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 2: the chat. I mean just hammering him, dude.

1578
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 1: Just yeah, dude, I mean look like, look he's just

1579
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,440
Speaker 1: at this heat.

1580
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, Mikey. All right, Hey, look let's go to

1581
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 2: the next one. This will bring back andre Ward one

1582
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 2: more time. There's a lot of what ifs, because andre

1583
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:44,719
Speaker 2: Ward did walk away on his own terms in his prime,

1584
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 2: following two victories over Sergei coveal Evan. Just to reminder,

1585
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 2: the first fight between them was for the number one

1586
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,759
Speaker 2: spot pound for pound in the sport he walked away.

1587
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 2: We've talked to him before about Canalo and Triple G,

1588
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 2: the fights that didn't happen, But listen to what he

1589
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 2: told told me about what also didn't happen but could have.

1590
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,719
Speaker 2: He used to float out the idea of like, one day,

1591
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 2: maybe you like risking it all and going up to heavyweight.

1592
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 2: In hindsight, when we look back on when that was

1593
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 2: a thing, was it really a thing? Was that something

1594
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 2: you ever toyed with? Even if it was like a

1595
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 2: Roy Jones way, were like one off just to show

1596
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 2: my greatness. Did you ever come close to thinking that

1597
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 2: was something that was real in your mind?

1598
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 3: Of course, Yeah, that was the plan.

1599
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 5: We talked about it for years because I've never had

1600
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 5: an issue fighting bigger guys.

1601
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 3: That was never the problem.

1602
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 5: Never had an issue amateurs, pro sparring my brother, who

1603
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 5: I came up with. You guys don't know him, but

1604
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 5: my brother was always two three inches taller than me,

1605
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,719
Speaker 5: Tommy Hurns type of bill, big right hand, very tough

1606
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 5: like my brother had more natural ability and skill than

1607
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 5: I did. I had to rumble with that dude three

1608
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:50,600
Speaker 5: days a week for like, I don't know, five or

1609
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 5: six years. So size was never the issue with me.

1610
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 5: It wouldn't be a campaign situation. That's just not smart

1611
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 5: nor what I need to It was sort of one

1612
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 5: or two and then done. That was the plan after

1613
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 5: Covid left to a Verse said it in the post

1614
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 5: fight press conference. The plan was to have a sort

1615
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 5: of a homecoming in the Bay area Tony bail you

1616
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 5: at Cruise Away, and then Anthony Joshua heavyweight. I don't

1617
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 5: like you know things happened. Who knows if the negotiations

1618
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 5: would have went the way they were supposed to go.

1619
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 3: But that was the plan on a good day.

1620
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 5: I'm like, nah, you did what you were supposed to do.

1621
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 5: On a bad day, I'm wondering what could have been.

1622
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 2: What would that have look like in a soccer stadium

1623
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 2: in the UK, you and Anthony Joshua. I mean, how

1624
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,520
Speaker 2: much weight would you have put on? What? What would

1625
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 2: come on? You know if you got the fan in

1626
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 2: me all fired up?

1627
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 3: He had the plan.

1628
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 5: See, I'll never be as big as him, nor do

1629
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 5: I need to, right, So I'm gonna get two oh

1630
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 5: five to oh eight strong enough, but.

1631
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 3: I'm gonna wear you down, bro, like like you're not. Now.

1632
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 5: I gotta be careful, right, He's got the big right

1633
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:58,600
Speaker 5: hand if you if he allows you to line him up,

1634
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 5: that's the danger. That's why the fight said. Oh good,

1635
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 5: then this little dude get hit by it is what's

1636
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 5: gonna happened. So I have to be aware of that.

1637
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 5: But I just hey, I just didn't see a way

1638
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 5: whatever brother could beat me.

1639
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 3: Man.

1640
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 2: So Luke, that's a wild berger right there for me.

1641
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 2: Holy shit. So just to put this in timeframe, Ward

1642
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 2: Fallkova of twice in twenty seventeen and retired Twenty seventeen

1643
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 2: was the year that Anthony Joshua got up off the

1644
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 2: deck to knock out Vladimir Klitschko in that massive fight.

1645
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 2: Then he made a title defense to kick off his

1646
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 2: Diszone career against Carlos Tackum. Imagine if we're talking twenty

1647
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 2: eighteen here, Lukeer. Twenty nineteen, even and andre Ward moved

1648
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 2: up from light heavyweight to heavyweight to face Anthony Joshua

1649
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:49,839
Speaker 2: over under minus three seventy five, the number Anthony Joshua

1650
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 2: would have been favored if this super fight had come

1651
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 2: together the way andre Ward just broke it down.

1652
01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: Oh man, oh man, woo. That's a great one, minus

1653
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 1: three seventy five.

1654
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 2: With that, what do you think about that idea to

1655
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 2: begin with? Like, that's wild.

1656
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely love Ward and respect him, so

1657
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: it's like I would take the over. I would take

1658
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 1: the over on this one. I love andre Ward's gusto.

1659
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm not even saying he couldn't make it competitive or

1660
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: make it fun and interesting. Hell, he probably could. If

1661
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:35,799
Speaker 1: anybody could, it'd be him, right, But three seventy five

1662
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 1: in boxing, no, no, I would have to say they'd

1663
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 1: probably have him much closer to around the minus five

1664
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 1: hundred or above. Mark just dance a lot of size

1665
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 1: man like I know that Ward is more skilled, no question,

1666
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 1: but that is such a big man. He'd have to

1667
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 1: be going up against that's a lot man. So yeah,

1668
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: I go, I take the over. I take the over.

1669
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Let's say he had done that because Roy Jones

1670
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 2: did it right, one fight, moved up, took on a

1671
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 2: style matchup in John Ruiz. That that worked for John Ruiz.

1672
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: Ain't Anthony Joshua bro.

1673
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 2: No, No, but that's still an Anthony Joshua who. That's

1674
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,759
Speaker 2: probably the most dangerous version of him, that twenty eighteen version.

1675
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 2: You know, he had balls, he went after it. He

1676
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 2: could be vulnerable though, but Ward Man, Ward can really box,

1677
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 2: and he's really smart. Let's say he had done that

1678
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 2: and then retired, Like you're almost talking about doubling his legacy.

1679
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 2: Ward's a Hall of Famer, but you're almost talking about

1680
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 2: doubling his legacy with one win, one fight, one night.

1681
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:37,759
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that would have been crazy.

1682
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,719
Speaker 1: I know what people might say that, like, oh Andy,

1683
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 1: Andy Ruiz, you know got him with speed. Why couldn't

1684
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:45,640
Speaker 1: war do that? But also like Andy Ruiz is a

1685
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 1: heavyweight with speed. I don't know, I don't know.

1686
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, but I love this time.

1687
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 2: I mean, this is what you have to do as

1688
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 2: a boxing fan, Luke, because most of the time you

1689
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 2: can only debate the great fights that didn't happen. You

1690
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 2: didn't get to see them. Let's keep it going. White

1691
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 2: talked at the press conference over the weekend after the

1692
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 2: UFC pay per view card about talking to James Dolan

1693
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 2: on the Sphere. The quote here is Mexican Independence Day.

1694
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 2: We are booked for the Sphere. We are already working

1695
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,879
Speaker 2: on the creative for the show. It's a massive challenge

1696
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 2: and I love every minute of it. I can't wait

1697
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 2: to dive into this thing. And as I get more

1698
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 2: of the pieces of the puzzle together, I'll let you

1699
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 2: guys know when it comes along. He's fired up about this.

1700
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 2: So over under one million. This year's first Noche UFC

1701
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 2: card was ESPN plus re almost regular TV. Almost If

1702
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:36,679
Speaker 2: this is a pay per view in the sphere, which

1703
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 2: I gotta believe, it would be over under on pay

1704
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 2: per view buys without even knowing who's going to be

1705
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 2: on the card, although you could probably guess with the

1706
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 2: Mexican theme over under one million pay per view bys

1707
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four.

1708
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, under I don't think that's gonna make much of

1709
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 1: a difference at all. I think it will mean. I

1710
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 1: don't want to say we'll make a difference to the viewer,

1711
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 1: or we won't make a difference to memories, or we'll

1712
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 1: make a difference to some of the media that will

1713
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: happen around it. It could make a fairly substantial difference.

1714
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 1: But first of all, the quarterly report from the sphere

1715
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 1: is that they lost one hundred million dollars in the first.

1716
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,799
Speaker 2: I think that was expected though, right it was expected.

1717
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: Sure, it's gonna take time to get there, I understand,

1718
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 1: but it's not like this is something that's just you know,

1719
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 1: people are like, can't fucking stop themselves from going to

1720
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 1: and they're overwhelmed by demand. It's not necessarily like that.

1721
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 1: It is an extremely cool venue, but you know, I've

1722
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 1: seen people in there that tell you that the site

1723
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 1: lines for fighting might not be that great. So here's

1724
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna say. I do think it will do

1725
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,759
Speaker 1: well for themselves. I think it'll be a nice event,

1726
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: but uh million pay per view buys just because of

1727
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 1: the venue. Yeah, absolutely not like no.

1728
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would need the venue, it would need some

1729
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:42,719
Speaker 2: Mexican favorites, but you would also need like a really

1730
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 2: big fight, Like you can't have Schifchenko Grosso two three

1731
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 2: on there as your Maine. Now you gotta go big.

1732
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 2: But to talk about the site lines for a second,

1733
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,799
Speaker 2: because I think this was always part of Dana's worry

1734
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 2: of why he hasn't gone to stadiums like at and

1735
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 2: T Stadium and outside of Dallas or a UK you know,

1736
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 2: soccer stadium. I don't know if sight lines come into

1737
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 2: play here, because they're gonna put They're probably gonna put

1738
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 2: the fights on that massive screen in there, right, like,

1739
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 2: so you're gonna be seeing like, who's gonna watch the

1740
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 2: tiny cage when you're seeing like four hundred foot versions

1741
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 2: of these guys right right?

1742
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 1: But then why would the fuck would you go like

1743
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 1: because it's insane.

1744
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:21,719
Speaker 2: It's like they do you.

1745
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,719
Speaker 8: Think they actually have a chance to watch a fight?

1746
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 8: I don't know to watch it. You know that you're

1747
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 8: not gonna know until you try it. But are you

1748
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 8: of the belief that it could be such a hit

1749
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 8: that it transforms the fight game?

1750
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: No? No, I don't believe that at all.

1751
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 2: Oh no, that's that's fair. That's fair. All right, let's

1752
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 2: keep this rolling here, Luke. Dustin Pourrier talked with MMA

1753
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 2: Fighting about a return date. Here's the quote. My current mindset,

1754
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 2: I'd fight in six weeks. I'd fight in eight weeks

1755
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 2: if the fight made sense and I was excited about it.

1756
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 2: Other than that, I think a chance to fight on

1757
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 2: UFC three hundred is a big deal. I've been in

1758
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 2: the UFC since one twenty five and I missed UFC

1759
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 2: two hundred. You know, I'm not gonna be around for

1760
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 2: four hundred, so it's kind of a cool opportunity if

1761
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 2: this comes together. But I honestly have no clue of

1762
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 2: my return date or timeframe. But UFC three hundred is enticing.

1763
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you an over under on Dustin Poier's

1764
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 2: return date four and a half months. That would put

1765
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 2: it directly at UFC three hundred.

1766
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 1: Well, what if I don't want to take the over

1767
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 1: or the under? I want to say that that's right.

1768
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 2: I think that's a fair question. How about we put

1769
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 2: it after it? So the under is he comes back

1770
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 2: at three No, no, we'll put it before the under

1771
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 2: is he comes back before then. The over is he

1772
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 2: fights at three hundred.

1773
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that they actually end up do putting

1774
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 1: him on that card. He'd be back for one. He's

1775
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 1: I mean so many fun names you can put him

1776
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: up against, reliable as shit, as a guy who's gonna

1777
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: make way. I mean, think about it, dude, you need

1778
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 1: a guy who's not gonna have drug testing issues, who's

1779
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 1: not gonna have weight issues, who's not gonna have bullshit

1780
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,600
Speaker 1: issues like that. Dustin Poarrier never has issues like that.

1781
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 1: And by the way, is he rock solid reliable for action?

1782
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: You bet your ass he is so for all these reasons,

1783
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: and he's got a big name and his time is

1784
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 1: limited and he's available. Yeah, I think they end up

1785
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 1: do putting him on that three hundred card. I think

1786
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 1: it's a great idea by him, And I mean everybody's

1787
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 1: gonna want to be in that card obviously, but I

1788
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 1: think that they will. I think that they'll find a

1789
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 1: way to make him work on that card, no doubt

1790
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 1: about it.

1791
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 2: He has become a monster fan favorite. I mean, I

1792
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 2: don't know if that extends to like really big levels,

1793
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 2: but people love the shit out of this American hero.

1794
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 2: Dustin Poier, so he should be on there. And while

1795
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 2: I think you can knee jerk any badass action fight

1796
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 2: from rematches with all of Vera, Gaechee and Chandler to

1797
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 2: whatever is your flavor, the best use of him could

1798
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 2: be in a different way. Tell me why him against

1799
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 2: Patty Pimbla at UFC three hundred shouldn't happen.

1800
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 1: So you're assuming if Patty beats.

1801
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, Paddy has to win and has to look really

1802
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 2: good against Tony.

1803
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:58,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then put him up against Dustin.

1804
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 2: Yep, when are you I guess that becomes a new

1805
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 2: question of when are you gonna cash Patty out? What

1806
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 2: are you gonna take the chance put him in a.

1807
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 1: Fight, even at age thirty four. For Patty, I feel

1808
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 1: like he's gonna get chinned up against old Dustin. If

1809
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 1: I could just be you know, honest.

1810
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 2: That'd be a big fight, dude, That'd be a big fight.

1811
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: Come on, he goes in there, So you're so under

1812
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:21,679
Speaker 1: the presumption that he goes in there and like blows

1813
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 1: the doors off of Tony.

1814
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 2: If that, yeah, if that happens, It's really.

1815
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: It's an interesting question because I still don't think they'd

1816
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 1: give him to Dustin, but it does raise the question.

1817
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 1: It's like, if Patty goes in there and not only

1818
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 1: beats Tony, but like looks amazing doing it, what do

1819
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: you do with him? Like? Who would he fight at

1820
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 1: that point? I I mean a man, if.

1821
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 2: You're not gonna do Connor or Max for Dustin. So

1822
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 2: what's like the one big Dustin matchup? We never got that.

1823
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 2: You're like, oh shit, that's perfect.

1824
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 1: You could do the gay Chee rematch. I mean, there's

1825
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 1: not like a.

1826
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 2: Huge but the only problem with the Gaichee trilogy is

1827
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 2: that Duston just lost by So yeah, it's like it

1828
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 2: was kind of.

1829
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very it was very authoritative. It was

1830
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 1: very authoritative. Yeah, I mean sor Yuki and might have

1831
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,520
Speaker 1: a big win if he beats dary USh.

1832
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 2: What about Nate?

1833
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: Nate, it's a great one. If you could pull him back,

1834
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: If you could pull him back, that'd be huge.

1835
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 2: Okay, what abouts.

1836
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 1: They're boys, They're never gonna fight.

1837
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 2: All right, good call, all right? One more for you

1838
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 2: on this over under here, Luke, Uh, We're gonna play

1839
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:33,799
Speaker 2: a video for you. The over under is three minutes,

1840
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 2: the amount of time Luke would last here. Let's see

1841
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 2: what here.

1842
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 1: Is is astro glid involved.

1843
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 2: On Saturday while he was working? He was also working it.

1844
01:26:57,080 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what I'm saying, Luke. He was

1845
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 2: in Mexico at an EDM festival. Can we run that

1846
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 2: video again here? Luke?

1847
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 1: I mean is what?

1848
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 2: And Luke? He was working and he was also working, you.

1849
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:11,680
Speaker 1: Know, to see that video? Let me see this.

1850
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 2: I think she put his thing down, flipped it and

1851
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 2: reversed it, Luke.

1852
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 1: And he's got the yellow sunglasses matching his terrible yellow outfit.

1853
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's got two ninety five on the screen.

1854
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: Dude, how are they in Mexico and everyone there is white?

1855
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:28,719
Speaker 1: How the fuck did he end up there?

1856
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke, that's the answer to everything.

1857
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 1: Okay, how long would I last? I mean, I don't

1858
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 1: want to make the joke I want to make because

1859
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 1: we probably get fired.

1860
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, if it involves the Mandolai Bay, don't Luke?

1861
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 1: Please? Yeah, it was close to that. It was close

1862
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:46,639
Speaker 1: to that.

1863
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, moving on here, thank you? That is

1864
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 2: over under.

1865
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 1: I'll just say this. I'll just say this, I'll take

1866
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 1: the under. Thanks, yes, thank you.

1867
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 2: Quickly, here, let's hit up a segment that we ran

1868
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 2: out of time last week for why because our shows

1869
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 2: so freaking great, it's overflowing. This one's called fan submission.

1870
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 1: You've got mail fuure, Yes, we certainly do.

1871
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 2: Geff Morningcombat at gmail dot com if you want to

1872
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 2: get your fans ubs in Long Island Rob is back.

1873
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 2: What up my donks? And Donk gets this long round

1874
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 2: Long Island Rob back again with the average Joe art merch,

1875
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 2: fresh out of the package and as unwashed as BC's butthole. Wow,

1876
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 2: behind me is my average Yeah, behind me is my

1877
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 2: average Saturday morning teaching this sparring class at the dojo.

1878
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:38,600
Speaker 2: I sometimes based training drills around some of Luke's technical difficulties,

1879
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 2: So please keep that series going. Papa Levado. Hope everyone

1880
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 2: has a great Wednesday. It's Long Island Rob Luke. Can

1881
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:46,919
Speaker 2: you speak to this man's physique?

1882
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 3: Uh?

1883
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 1: No, I cannot. He's got He's thrusting his crotch forward

1884
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 1: with his terrible gee pants.

1885
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 2: He looks good in that average Joe collaboration that you

1886
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 2: can find at Morning Combat.

1887
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 1: Average Joe collaboration is fantastic. Yes. By the way, my

1888
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 1: h my wife and my and Avuela finally saw the

1889
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 1: shirt and they loved it. So props to average you

1890
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 1: for that.

1891
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 2: All right, let's hear from Jose, Hey, Luke and BC.

1892
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 2: I'm Jose, the Brazilian fan that used to send fan

1893
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 2: art back in the day. I still watch every episode

1894
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 2: and wanted to congratulate you guys on five hundred episodes.

1895
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 2: I was in the arena in Sal Paul and I

1896
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 2: have to say the experience was amazing. The crowd was awesome,

1897
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 2: a complete opposite of what happened at two eighty three.

1898
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 2: Keep an eye on Vitor Petrino. He was the one

1899
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 2: who got the biggest pop, more than every other athlete,

1900
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 2: including Jalton Almeta. I hope you guys can do a

1901
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 2: live episode here in Sal Paul one day. Much love

1902
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 2: from Brazil. Keep up the great word.

1903
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 1: Why can't you say Paulo, Paul sal Paulo. Yeah it's

1904
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:48,839
Speaker 1: not sal Paul, Paulo sal Paulo.

1905
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 2: That man's name right there is Jose Alfonso.

1906
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:54,879
Speaker 1: The Brazilian Jose if he's Brazilian.

1907
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 2: Oh it is Jose, You're right. I wonder if he

1908
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 2: knows home. Al though, Luke, by any chance, let's go.

1909
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you Jose for sending it in and

1910
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 2: representing MK and the Brazil Right as you're watching your

1911
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 2: braziers on your gross search history disgusting pos Here's Gary

1912
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 2: hi Luke and Brian Morning. Combat was represented at the

1913
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 2: thirtieth Annual Hawaiian Lacrosse Invitational in Honou Lulu October twenty

1914
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:25,680
Speaker 2: seventh through thirtieth Loyal donk Gary Carpentier here on Garber's

1915
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 2: Gorilla's team that won the Kupuna Division sixty years and older.

1916
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 2: The Gorillas are made up of a corps of UMass

1917
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 2: alumni lacrosse players. I am rocking my lucky number one

1918
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 2: point zero merch with diamond Head in the background. I

1919
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 2: plan to upgrade for the next tournament. It's great to

1920
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 2: bring MK to new group of fans in Hawaii. Last August,

1921
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 2: I was happy to rep the shirt at the annual

1922
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 2: Lake Placid, New York Lacrosse Tournament. Garber's Gorillas won that

1923
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 2: tournament as well. The Gorilla has won the past Masters

1924
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 2: Division National Championships in Weston, Florida in January, and then

1925
01:30:59,880 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 2: the Florida Lacrosse Clinic. It's a commercial for lacrosse here

1926
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:08,520
Speaker 2: twenty twenty twenty three was a great win for the Gorillas.

1927
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 2: Great year three for three. I hope it's as rewarding

1928
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 2: for MK and that I can do a three p

1929
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 2: or you can do a three peat at the World

1930
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 2: MMA Awards for Best Programming. MK is the leading sports

1931
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 2: destination for combat on the web. Keep up the good work, Fellas, Luke.

1932
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 2: That was a mouthy Gary. But what do you think

1933
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 2: about him being over sixty still being a badass playing

1934
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 2: lacrosse and rocking MK at the same time.

1935
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:35,839
Speaker 1: The weather in Honolulu looks beautiful.

1936
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, look at this guy, Luke. He's old

1937
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 2: and awesome, just.

1938
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:44,639
Speaker 1: Like us, right, probably in better shape than us though

1939
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 1: if I'm being.

1940
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 2: Candidate, speak to me in six months, though, gare all right,

1941
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 2: I'm coming. I'm coming for that coming for that crown.

1942
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 2: Let's go to number four. Here, here's Lazarus Complex for

1943
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 2: the rate my tad. I asked my artist if he

1944
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 2: would want to do an all back piece tattoo holding

1945
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 2: a repentagram impending doom. And I knew it was sick

1946
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:07,680
Speaker 2: when my artist left the stencil on his wall and

1947
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 2: for BC no matter the outcome of okay, bet we

1948
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 2: should go see Maholly sometime in New England. I was

1949
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 2: the guy who sent them to you on Instagram, Luke,

1950
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 2: what do you think of this man's satanic back?

1951
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 1: Satanic? Oh, because he has the pentagram?

1952
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:26,679
Speaker 2: I don't know what is that? Does that mean that anymore?

1953
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 1: Luca? It's sort of yes, but yes, but no is

1954
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 1: what I've kind of found out through metal. I like

1955
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 1: the tattoo. I don't know if I love it. It's well,

1956
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 1: it's good. There's a couple of issues with it, you know,

1957
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 1: if you notice that the feathering at the bottom of

1958
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 1: the owl on the left side is different than the

1959
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 1: bottom of the feathering on the right. A couple of

1960
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 1: line work issues around the face, but in general, in general,

1961
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 1: it is a good tattoo.

1962
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the bird part of it. All right,

1963
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 2: Well done there, Lazarus, lastus whatever we're calling you. Let's

1964
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 2: hear from John. He said he effed up the spelling

1965
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 2: on his last entry, so he fixed it. Let's see

1966
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 2: what we got here.

1967
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 1: Dad, tell me about the days looking Brian would consume

1968
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 1: all the drugs on rooms. Hey, I have to tell

1969
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:23,759
Speaker 1: you those days aren't over. They're just we're just waiting

1970
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 1: for our next opportunity.

1971
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, we might move that couch to a new location

1972
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 2: coming soon to you, all right, Charlie says, yo yo,

1973
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 2: longtime donk with a first time submission, not the near

1974
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 2: rear naked kind. This is a tap for Luke to rate,

1975
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:39,559
Speaker 2: stay washed and keep pumping me that MK. I need

1976
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 2: that shit like Luke needs niquill and BC needs boner pills. Wow,

1977
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 2: all right, Charlie, what do you got here? That's his

1978
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:52,759
Speaker 2: ass cheek? Look at least the side.

1979
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 1: Of it, right Yeah?

1980
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 2: Do you think he's just trying to show off his

1981
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 2: flesh right now?

1982
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 1: Or the brother the the fucking dragon eating its tail?

1983
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 2: Do you like that, Luke? Did you like?

1984
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:07,759
Speaker 1: Not my favorite? Yeah? Not my favorite.

1985
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 2: I will say it's kind of badass, though it does

1986
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 2: look like that man can fight without knowing anything about him.

1987
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 2: You get that on the side of your I.

1988
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:15,600
Speaker 1: Don't get that vibe. No, no, I don't get that

1989
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 1: vibe at all. Actually, okay, all.

1990
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 2: Right, let's hear from Caesar. He says, this is Luke

1991
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 2: and his future son. Oh nice, But I thought you

1992
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:24,680
Speaker 2: liked me.

1993
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:26,640
Speaker 3: I thought this was a dream come true for us,

1994
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 3: your dream.

1995
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 1: You can't force a dream onto someone else.

1996
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 5: Dad, this I can I can't force a dream on Yeah,

1997
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:39,640
Speaker 5: because it's a good dream.

1998
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 2: Luke had said, when my son doesn't share the same

1999
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 2: passion as I do for BBLS, that's great, but I.

2000
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 1: Don't want to be insulting like with the guy's tattoo.

2001
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 1: I appreciate him sending it in and it's not a

2002
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:47,719
Speaker 1: bad tattoo. It's a fine tattoo. It's just not personally

2003
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 1: for me. But uh yes, I don't have a son,

2004
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 1: so I can't really do this kind of thing. But

2005
01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 1: if I did, I would have this exact argument over BBLS.

2006
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 2: You know there it is Lucan the late Kobe Bryant.

2007
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:04,679
Speaker 2: Hashtag girl dads, We're here from Jeremy. Now, he says, Hey, donks,

2008
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 2: thought I would share this video of me proposing to

2009
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:10,640
Speaker 2: my girlfriend at the top of Angels Landing in Utah

2010
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 2: while wearing my son and the fist mk hat. I

2011
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 2: know it's hard to see, but I wouldn't lie to y'all.

2012
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 2: Thanks for making every Monday, Wednesday and Friday morning better. Sincerely,

2013
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:26,639
Speaker 2: Jeremy S. Luke. This is pretty much amazing. This guy

2014
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 2: went up to this amazing spot in Utah proposed to

2015
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 2: his girl, who's gore you know, a beautiful lady there

2016
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:36,639
Speaker 2: and she said yes while he was wearing the same

2017
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 2: hat I'm wearing right now. What do you think about that?

2018
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean obviously she has judgment issues because she

2019
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:44,639
Speaker 1: said yes to this terrible person. No, I'm teasing, I'm teessing.

2020
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:47,559
Speaker 1: First of all, congratulations, Utah looks like God's country. I've

2021
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 1: only been to Utah twice, never seen a black person

2022
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 1: there once. I can just say that very confidently. But

2023
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 1: I will say that the landscape in Utah exquisite.

2024
01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 2: I mean, it's beautiful, It's incredible, it's incredible. I want

2025
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 2: to vacation there.

2026
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 1: This year.

2027
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 2: We got a congratulations, thank you, great work there, fella.

2028
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 2: Let's go to Jeremy. He that was Jeremy great work.

2029
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 2: Jack says, I'm a huge fan of the show. I

2030
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:11,719
Speaker 2: just fought at the weekend on a big bare knuckle

2031
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:14,839
Speaker 2: show here in the UK. I scored a fifteen second knockout,

2032
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 2: breaking my opponent's jaw. It would be a dream come

2033
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 2: true if you guys could play the knockout on your show.

2034
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:22,679
Speaker 2: It would massively help my exposure. I'm sure you will

2035
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 2: appreciate the noise as the shot lands. Let's hear, let's

2036
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 2: here's Jack's handy work. Let's listen to it. That's at

2037
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:49,600
Speaker 2: the game said, oh wow, yo.

2038
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 1: Yo, nice shot right over the top of the guard.

2039
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:54,599
Speaker 1: That was great. I didn't hear it, but that is great.

2040
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he sent that Carneye to the deep depths. Luke, Wow,

2041
01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 2: well done there, fella. That's right there, an absolute badass. Yeah,

2042
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:04,479
Speaker 2: we'll play it. We'll let you know how good it is. Luke,

2043
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:06,559
Speaker 2: nice shot coming up here one more time to finish

2044
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 2: this man. Wow.

2045
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:09,840
Speaker 1: The referee looks like he's done some drug smuggling in

2046
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 1: his town.

2047
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he does have well latex gloves on to

2048
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 2: make you happy.

2049
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that means Mike.

2050
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:18,720
Speaker 2: Is there any more? Is that it? I believe that's it.

2051
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 1: I think that's it.

2052
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:24,760
Speaker 2: That's Morningcombat at gmail dot com. Thank you so much

2053
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 2: for sending in your fansubs. Even if we roast you,

2054
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 2: we still boast for you. We love you. That's Luke Thomas.

2055
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:32,600
Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell, Michael Moore, Myles CBS Sports is on

2056
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:34,760
Speaker 2: the ones and twos there. We're getting off quick because

2057
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:39,040
Speaker 2: I got Mike Perry, Eddie Alvarez come in my way,

2058
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:41,679
Speaker 2: so you know I'm fired up. YouTube dot com slash

2059
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:44,800
Speaker 2: Morning Combat for all of our bonus interviews. Don't miss it,

2060
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 2: LT anything else.

2061
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 1: That's it for right now. I'm looking forward to the

2062
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:49,679
Speaker 1: Mike Perry interview for sure.

2063
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:52,639
Speaker 2: Thank you Morningcombat Dot Store for our great merch. We'll

2064
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:54,800
Speaker 2: see you later. Take care of yourself, folks. We're out

2065
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 2: of here. Yeah baby, yeah, dig it all right, It's

2066
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 2: never too soon for college hues.

2067
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 1: It's the Arizona Tippa on CBS Sports Network.

2068
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 2: We're back for an all new season of ink Maaster.

2069
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:15,639
Speaker 2: This is wild and three times ink Master winner DJ

2070
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:18,640
Speaker 2: Camby returns as a judge.

2071
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:21,320
Speaker 3: Guaranteed, there's going to be some shots fired

2072
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:25,719
Speaker 1: On Game of Honor The Army May Be Gained, presented

2073
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 1: by USAA, Saturday, December ninth, on CBS and streaming on

2074
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:30,960
Speaker 1: Paramount Floods