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Speaker 1: All right, welcome into this week's Ozone podcast, and I

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Speaker 1: have a guest who's very familiar. We've done this a

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Speaker 1: few times. Always look forward to this environment, this situation,

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Speaker 1: getting a chance to talk to Jaguars tight end Evan

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Speaker 1: Ingram Evan. Once again, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Love being on here.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you a couple of things to

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Speaker 1: start off with about the team in general. Obviously nobody

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Speaker 1: expected this season. How surprised are you that the team

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Speaker 1: is here? And I guess how do you see it

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Speaker 1: handling this going forward?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Very disappointed. Sure, nowhere near the expectation we had.

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Speaker 2: Nowhere near the expectation with the talent that we have

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Speaker 2: and what we felt like we were as a team.

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Speaker 2: So I'm very disappointing. And I guess moving forward is

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Speaker 2: obviously we have to, you know, take some of these

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Speaker 2: lessons and some of this disappointment and uh and a

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Speaker 2: lot of the adversity that we've faced. We have to

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Speaker 2: turn it into, you know, something for the future. We

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Speaker 2: have to turn it in some type of turn it

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Speaker 2: into some type of fuel for the future. The one

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Speaker 2: never let this happen again? In too just you know

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Speaker 2: universally learned from it as a team collective, as a

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Speaker 2: coaching staff collective for what we're trying to take, you know,

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Speaker 2: this franchise and this program, realizing how hard that is

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Speaker 2: and how with the one bad player, two or three

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Speaker 2: I don't know what number it is by one score,

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Speaker 2: like that's the league. So definitely, I think there's an

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Speaker 2: opportunity for us to finish this season the right way,

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Speaker 2: have fun. We have literally nothing to lose but everything

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Speaker 2: to gain as far as you know, learning from this

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Speaker 2: and you know, kind of starting to turn the PA.

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Speaker 1: It may be too much the same question, but what

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Speaker 1: do you feel like you've learned from this seat anything

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Speaker 1: in particular, something for after the season when you're sort

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Speaker 1: of decompressive.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, there is definitely a period after the season where

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Speaker 2: you know, it's a lot easier to kind of look back.

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Speaker 2: We're still kind of we're still trying to go win

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Speaker 2: this game in Tennessee. But uh, I mean I've I've

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Speaker 2: I've had my fair share of kind of struggles, you know,

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Speaker 2: rough seasons, and uh, I think the I think this

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Speaker 2: one's the hardest because I haven't seen one guy like,

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Speaker 2: you know, tap or you know, I can check out.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's just been so committed figuring this out. So but uh,

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Speaker 2: that's just you know, just a reminder of how tough

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Speaker 2: championship in this league and you know, make the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: win the division, like, it's really hard. Obviously it's easy

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Speaker 2: to you know, create those goals, but it's one thing

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Speaker 2: to actually do it weekend and week out. So it's

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Speaker 2: a great lesson for all of us.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting because I hadn't really asked about that, but

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Speaker 1: the first thing you said was, hey, I haven't seen

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Speaker 1: anybody tap out. So fans automatically think that when you're

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Speaker 1: two and ten that that's what's going on, but absolutely

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Speaker 1: not from your perspective, you see a locker room of

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Speaker 1: guys that are committed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can say that because I've seen the I've

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Speaker 2: seen the other shot, I've seen you know, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: get it, just that people hitting that fast forward button.

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Speaker 2: So but that's not but not here. I don't I

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Speaker 2: don't think that's here. I just think we came into

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Speaker 2: the season, putting in a lot of work, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Now, I know you've discussed it already, so we're not

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Speaker 1: gonna hit this very long. But the situation the other day,

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Speaker 1: you were the first guy in closer to Trevor Lawrence h.

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Speaker 1: Demiko Ryans has said you let the team overreacted. If

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Speaker 1: you want to address that, fine, but overall, what was

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Speaker 1: your thought on how the team responded to that situation?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, I mean, you know, I really don't. I

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Speaker 2: You know, he's gonna stick up for his guys and

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Speaker 2: just a very unfortunate sequence of events. Definitely, I just

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Speaker 2: So obviously the you know, everything that ensued is you know,

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Speaker 1: But how else can you react, do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's I think we had nature.

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Speaker 1: It would have been weird if everybody's standing on the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I think we handled it the

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Speaker 1: That's the key, right the game's too hard to be

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean there's two you know, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: So definitely, uh, definitely credit to the guys and the

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Speaker 1: Now, for people who don't know, not all NFL players

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Speaker 1: are good friends with everybody on their team, but you

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Speaker 1: and Trevor pretty tight off the field as well. Have

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Speaker 1: you talked to him, How is he? What are your

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw him. I saw him Monday and Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: and yeah, just I just you know glad that you know,

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Speaker 2: I said, he's fine, and he's gonna be fine. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's definitely definitely, very unfortunate to see, but definitely glad

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Speaker 1: We've talked before, but your career has always been fascinating

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Speaker 1: to me in the sense that you continue to improve

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Speaker 1: but I see how you work. I see how you

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Speaker 1: the numbers don't support it this year because you're out

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Speaker 1: for a while, but how much pride do you take

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Speaker 1: in continuing to improve eighth years still sort of trending up?

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Speaker 1: I guess what I'm getting at.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I just find uh, there's just there's

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Speaker 2: I've faced a lot of adversity in my career. And

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Speaker 2: it used to be the adversity would keep me down

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Speaker 1: And a tough place to be in New York for.

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Speaker 2: Sure, But then I you know, I was able to

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Speaker 2: with that perspective, you have no choice but to constantly improve.

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Speaker 2: If you look at you know, a bad play or

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Speaker 2: just blessed with that perspect and I've had a lot

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Speaker 2: If I can put a uh, you know, paraphrase on.

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Speaker 1: It, No, well, knock on wood here. There's no way

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Speaker 1: And uh, that's another example, I guess of you saying, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I've been around NFL players who try to improve and don't. Right.

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Speaker 1: I guess how much of a source of pride is

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Speaker 2: then you obviously there's those ones that you wish you

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Speaker 2: I definitely, you know, I definitely always feel like there's

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Speaker 1: Now for people wo don't know, you were miked up

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Speaker 1: the other day, and when players miked up, it means

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Speaker 1: our Jaguars media people have a camera on you the

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Speaker 1: whole game. I was watching him edit it and they

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Speaker 2: I say ten more. Okay, we'll see it's fair.

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Speaker 1: five quick questions. Uh, what was your last binge watch?

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Speaker 2: Last binge watch? I just finished? Uh the Penguin?

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Speaker 2: It's like a it's like a sequel from the Batman.

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Speaker 2: Colin Ferrell. Great, great show. Must watch.

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Speaker 1: The last song you heard on the way in this morning?

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Speaker 1: How has marriage changed?

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Speaker 2: Honestly, that's probably the cool thing is like me and

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Speaker 2: So it's been awesome. It's been a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Best NFL moment.

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Speaker 2: Best NFL moment.

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Speaker 1: It's okay to say the catch against Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, I gotta put that one up. Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: That was Yeah, and that's one where I'm sure you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one like that's where you're just like in

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Speaker 1: What would veteran Evan Ingram tell.

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Speaker 2: Rookie man, just embrace the adversity that's coming, don't run

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Speaker 2: and you know, you know, you hear it all the time.

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Speaker 2: and if you you find them, h it'll it'll be

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Speaker 1: Evan Anger, like most Jaguars fans realize you're a class act.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you joining the ozone podcast yet again.

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Speaker 2: Always enjoy it, but it's always a pleasure. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, man,