Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, it's Tuesday, November twenty six, twenty four.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Showhere we're down to
Speaker 1: help the Jets with their search. It's me and your man,
Speaker 1: MG Marcus Grant, joined by Michael F. Florio and Lakwan Jones.
Speaker 1: And yesterday's show fellas was was unhinged.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was from stem to stern, just off the rails.
Speaker 1: I mean, it started with food takes, It ended with
Speaker 1: us trying to get somebody to die with Quan's hair.
Speaker 2: Shields. I mean it was a whole thing. Yesterday Monday
Speaker 2: is usually the more buttoned up of the two. So exciting. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I don't know where. I have no idea where
Speaker 2: this show's gonna go.
Speaker 3: While the Jets are looking for a GM. Let's look,
Speaker 3: I believe that someone should hire a fantasy analyst one
Speaker 3: day to try to run a team. Let's the Fantasy
Speaker 3: Football Show will throw our hat into the ring. We
Speaker 3: will gladly be the next the next Jets GF.
Speaker 1: Years ago, I wrote a pilot for like a web
Speaker 1: series based on that idea, right that some team hires
Speaker 1: a fantasy football expert to be like a general manager.
Speaker 1: But at the time I wrote this, like over ten
Speaker 1: years ago, the idea seemed a lot more far fetched
Speaker 1: than it does. Like now, there are plenty of folks
Speaker 1: out there who do fantasy, who are like deep into
Speaker 1: analytics and team roster building and all that. Like like nowadays,
Speaker 1: I think you could go onto Fantasy Blue Sky or
Speaker 1: or X or whatever one like you could you could
Speaker 1: put together. I think a decent front office team with
Speaker 1: just folks in this space now.
Speaker 3: Any team to try it, it should be the Jets,
Speaker 3: because what they're doing hasn't worked anyway, So like, let's
Speaker 3: let's do it. I'll show I could people.
Speaker 4: I can tell you now the season was gonna go left,
Speaker 4: you know, once Mike Williams got signed and then they
Speaker 4: had him have Taylor Ham it's pork roll.
Speaker 2: On a bable.
Speaker 4: That's when I knew things were bad decisions from the beginning,
Speaker 4: Like hire somebody from Jersey that knows how to get
Speaker 4: pork roll in the building and make better decisions behind
Speaker 4: the scenes.
Speaker 1: So breakfast meets apparently have caused the Jets downfall in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, not just decades of bad.
Speaker 4: Off top off top and free agency.
Speaker 1: I do wonder if there's like an equivalent breakfast sandwich
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh that somebody offered Mike Williams when he got there, Like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: have this whatever perogi with eggs in it or whatever?
Speaker 1: Like I know, I don't know what the breakfast sandwich
Speaker 1: of choices in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Feel free to hit me out. Let
Speaker 2: me know, all right, steel.
Speaker 1: That sounds awo pretzel buns but whatever, Everyone needs more
Speaker 1: iron in their diet. But anyway, let's dive into some things.
Speaker 1: We got some male bad questions. We'll have our waiver
Speaker 1: wire deep dives. Some folks were putting on the waiver
Speaker 1: wire as well. But some of the big questions for
Speaker 1: Week twelve and beyond, and the first one Michael left
Speaker 1: Florio is Patrick Mahomes back. We've seen some good performances
Speaker 1: out of him the last couple of weeks, including a
Speaker 1: big one on Sunday. So after all of our frustration
Speaker 1: and hand ringing, like, is Patrick Mahomes back to being
Speaker 1: kind of Patrick Mahomes now?
Speaker 3: I think so? Like three passing touchdowns in three of
Speaker 3: his last four games to Fantasy like yesterday was his
Speaker 3: best Fantasy game of the season, and that was after
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago was his best fantasy game
Speaker 3: in the season. Like, he's just been giving us much more.
Speaker 2: Ever since this first.
Speaker 3: Game with the Raiders in Week eight, his fantasy season
Speaker 3: has really started to transform a little bit. And that's
Speaker 3: who he gets this week is the Raiders. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I think he's in play this week. I'm not telling you,
Speaker 3: I don't think he's ever going to live up to
Speaker 3: where we drafted him, where he was going as like
Speaker 3: a top three to four quarterback, going ahead of Lamar
Speaker 3: Jackson in draft stuff like that, Like he's not gonna
Speaker 3: give you that value, but top like seven to eight
Speaker 3: fantasy quarterback. I feel pretty confident that he's back in
Speaker 3: that range. Definitely in the top ten for me.
Speaker 1: So Patrick Mahomes had six touchdown passes total in his
Speaker 1: first four games. He's had six touchdowns in his last two.
Speaker 1: He's throwing three touchdowns and three of his last four.
Speaker 1: Starting to get hot. I mean, Lakwana, is it a
Speaker 1: stretch to say, And you look at the schedule. He's
Speaker 1: got the Raiders, Chargers gonna be tough on the road
Speaker 1: at Cleveland, Houston, Pittsburgh. Is he back to being like
Speaker 1: is he still a matchup based guy, I guess, is
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to ask. Are we still looking at
Speaker 1: playing matchups with him or are we at a point
Speaker 1: where he's like, all right, maybe he's he's.
Speaker 2: Figured it out. We can just start him every week.
Speaker 4: I probably shy away from him in that first round
Speaker 4: of the playoffs, depending where you start in Week fourteen
Speaker 4: against the Chargers, that's the only one where like, if
Speaker 4: I have a better option, I'll take it. But for
Speaker 4: the rest of the season, I think he gets hit
Speaker 4: that fantasy ceiling that we all know that he can hit,
Speaker 4: that he's been doing in these last couple of weeks,
Speaker 4: and like more so that he's scoring touchdowns de Hopit
Speaker 4: transitioning well to be a valuable target. We're seeing more
Speaker 4: of Xavier Worthy getting involved as an all around, you know,
Speaker 4: wide receiver, not just like running a nine route and
Speaker 4: just trying to get the deep ball going because that's
Speaker 4: not exactly consistent and connecting. And then we're getting Noah
Speaker 4: Gray coming out of nowhere with Travis Kelce. Those so
Speaker 4: these two combinations of where this offense is looking a
Speaker 4: lot more threatening, it looks a lot more you know,
Speaker 4: productive to where you're going to be able to get
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes to score more touchdowns and that's honestly all
Speaker 4: we ask for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, it is definitely looking better.
Speaker 1: It helps that he has some guys healthy again, that
Speaker 1: everybody seems comfortable and Floria, You've talked about this before.
Speaker 1: It just feels like the Chiefs used the first month
Speaker 1: or so of the season. They use it as their
Speaker 1: preseason and training camp, and usually right about now, right
Speaker 1: about Thanksgiving is when they start to turn it up
Speaker 1: and then they get ready for what is the regular
Speaker 1: what is the real season for them?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: I mean, they just sort of cruise along, and here's
Speaker 1: they were cruising along and they were undefeated for nine weeks.
Speaker 4: Cruise then undefeated, Like how eight.
Speaker 2: Eight one score wins?
Speaker 3: Though, I'm like, I don't want to doubt them, but
Speaker 3: it also kind of feels like a house of cards
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 2: I mean, it kind of does. But also, I mean
Speaker 2: it's the chief So who knows.
Speaker 1: They could just be you know, like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: just whatever, like we're going to play with our food
Speaker 1: and then we'll figure out how to.
Speaker 2: Win at the end. You know, just yesterday they did it.
Speaker 1: Is what I mean, it's sort of like what the
Speaker 1: Patriots were right when they had it running. It's just
Speaker 1: like we would watch the games, My friends and I
Speaker 1: would watch games, and like the Patriots would look like
Speaker 1: they were fumbling around for three quarters, and then the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter you're like, what is that Tom Brady's music?
Speaker 1: And then they just come and they just run through
Speaker 1: the you know, through everybody else and they'd win the game.
Speaker 3: They have reached the Patriots level where they could be,
Speaker 3: like you said, they could be losing for three quarters
Speaker 3: and I'm still like, yeah, they're gonna win this game.
Speaker 1: So you're not gonna figure out how to win the game.
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is gonna rip off a thirty yard run
Speaker 1: on like third and seventeen. Uh, get them in the
Speaker 1: field goal range, and they're gonna get it done, which
Speaker 1: is exactly what happened to the Panthers on Sunday.
Speaker 4: I wanted them to win so bad, like I wanted
Speaker 4: the Panthers just to sneak out a win just I wanted.
Speaker 2: To have so bad.
Speaker 4: But again it's Patrick Mahlmes.
Speaker 2: What do we think? It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: It still gave me an excuse to post. Michael left
Speaker 1: Florio in a sir, per costume.
Speaker 2: I thought that picture was gone nothing. Nothing on the
Speaker 2: internet's ever gone forever, never, ever, ever.
Speaker 1: So confused, Look, what can we buy into the Cowboys offense?
Speaker 1: I mean we were all saying to stream the Commanders
Speaker 1: their defensive and playing better, and then Cooper Rush went
Speaker 1: out and had almost two hundred and fifty yards of
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. Ricodowbell had a decent game. So does this
Speaker 1: mean we're back in on the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Uh, I'm not back in all the way, but I
Speaker 4: like Rico dowell running hard. I mean it's based on matchups.
Speaker 4: You know, you got to play cde Lamb just based
Speaker 4: on the draft stock that you invested in him over
Speaker 4: the summer. But Rico o'dowell he kind of is like
Speaker 4: forming into that RB one role to where you can
Speaker 4: rely on him to have a safe floor. And I
Speaker 4: think it's going to be matchup based for any other
Speaker 4: any other you know, weapon that the Cowboys wanted to
Speaker 4: deploy out there. But more so, like this game is
Speaker 4: more so they knew who dan Quyn was, they know
Speaker 4: his weaknesses. He was in the building for so long.
Speaker 4: So I think that you know, with the division game
Speaker 4: on the table last week, what we saw is more
Speaker 4: so of like, all right, well let's see if they
Speaker 4: can keep this up with Cooper Rush building off that confidence.
Speaker 4: But Ceedee Lamb, you gotta play Rico dal based on
Speaker 4: matchups for a saved floor.
Speaker 1: Most weeks I was gonna ask, I mean, at this
Speaker 1: point Florida is it's still just Ceedee Lamb in terms
Speaker 1: of skill position guys, I mean Dowdell, I guess is
Speaker 1: didn't play anybody else though.
Speaker 2: Besides that, I agree.
Speaker 3: With Lakwan for look, Ceedee Lamb, you're gonna play Dawdell
Speaker 3: is matchup based, and like next week they get the
Speaker 3: Giants on Thanksgiving, that feels like a favorable matchup. So
Speaker 3: I'm going to advocate starting Rico Dwell next week. But like,
Speaker 3: it's a tough matchup for Jake Ferguson, but he is
Speaker 3: also a matchup based play, Like I don't love him
Speaker 3: next week against the Giants, who've been really good against
Speaker 3: tight ends, but there will be better matchups and that's
Speaker 3: when you could kind of plug him in. Although ideally
Speaker 3: I would try to wash my hands away from anyone
Speaker 3: but CD and Rico because I could play the matchups
Speaker 3: with Ferguson, but if I would rather have a tight
Speaker 3: end that I feel a little bit more confident that
Speaker 3: I could start weekly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I know we liked Ferguson at the
Speaker 1: start of the year, but obviously things have gone south
Speaker 1: with this offense, so it's hard to Again.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm kind of the CD lamb or bust. I
Speaker 2: like Rigo Daudell.
Speaker 1: Hopefully what we saw last week against the Commanders was
Speaker 1: the beginning of him just sort of really getting the
Speaker 1: majority of the work there, because every now and then
Speaker 1: you look up and like Ezekiel Elliott's on the field
Speaker 1: getting carries and like, what are we doing here? So
Speaker 1: as long as we can cut that out, then we're fine,
Speaker 1: all right, Floria, I need an Anthony Richardson vibeses check
Speaker 1: from you.
Speaker 3: Everything that I said about Anthony Richardson last week and
Speaker 3: for like the two months in before that are all
Speaker 3: still true. I feel like like he is a low floor,
Speaker 3: high ceiling fantasy quarterback, and I think people got too
Speaker 3: sourd on him during the down two months, and I
Speaker 3: think people got way too high on him after the
Speaker 3: game against the Jets, like we have seen now, the
Speaker 3: Jets get torched numerous times defensively, even though they have
Speaker 3: all that talent. Ever since they fired Robert Sala, they
Speaker 3: really haven't stopped anyone. But then the Lions. Like people
Speaker 3: think the Lions are a favorable matchup because they they
Speaker 3: throttle you so badly that you end up having to throw,
Speaker 3: but they give up second fewest passing touchdowns in the league.
Speaker 3: They're really tough against the run, they're really tough on
Speaker 3: screen passes. It just didn't seem like a great spot
Speaker 3: for Anthony Richardson. But like next week he gets the
Speaker 3: Patriots who just gave up the best game of the
Speaker 3: year to two. They've given up the best game of
Speaker 3: the year to Rogers a number of different quarterbacks, So like,
Speaker 3: I think he's in play next week. To me, Richardson
Speaker 3: is very matchup dependent. He brings upside in the good matchups,
Speaker 3: but in the tougher matchups, I think you want to
Speaker 3: get away because the floor is single digits to like
Speaker 3: twelve fantasy points, which is exactly what he did this
Speaker 3: week against the Lions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I know he had some drops which
Speaker 1: didn't help him. The rushing numbers weren't bad ten for
Speaker 1: sixty one. I think I could sort of live with it.
Speaker 4: I do love that they're letting him run.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, touchdowns, touchdowns would be nice, but it is But yeah,
Speaker 1: it sort of is what it is.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, look what I mean.
Speaker 1: Florida just mentioned it that coming up this week, would
Speaker 1: you be willing to start Anthony Richardson on the road
Speaker 1: at New England and what is probably gonna be cold
Speaker 1: and snowy and generally unpleasant conditions.
Speaker 4: My biggest issue is that Josh Down's going down on Sunday.
Speaker 4: Man him being weak to week is going to play
Speaker 4: a huge factor in Anthony Richardson's ceilings. So it's more
Speaker 4: so if, like if Josh Downs is not there the
Speaker 4: most reliable wide receiver on the Colts offense, I'm not
Speaker 4: too sure if I can pull the trigger on Anthony
Speaker 4: Richardson coming off of a poor performance. And not only
Speaker 4: was it a poor performance, is more so that old
Speaker 4: line was not giving him any time to do anything,
Speaker 4: man Like, he was pressured on like fifty two percent
Speaker 4: in his passes in the half. So it's like, how
Speaker 4: is he supposed to generate anything? Only two completed passes
Speaker 4: when pressured like these are the situations where you know
Speaker 4: you're you're encouraged by him running more, but more so,
Speaker 4: you take out Josh downs out of that factor, you
Speaker 4: take one of his best weapons, and it's like, what
Speaker 4: could we honestly expect, you know, going into this next week?
Speaker 4: So I'm looking for other options to be honest.
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I think I think we're just sort
Speaker 1: of I know, like after we have the big game
Speaker 1: last week, a lot of people are like, see that's
Speaker 1: you know, the haters are.
Speaker 2: Quiet, and I'm like, I don't know that there are.
Speaker 1: Haters, They're just people who were critical of his poor performance.
Speaker 1: I think there's a I think there's a difference between that.
Speaker 3: I had a lot of people being like, see those
Speaker 3: two weeks of being benched really helped him. And I
Speaker 3: really want to go back to those tweets after yesterday
Speaker 3: and be like so or after Sunday maybe like so,
Speaker 3: how how did that.
Speaker 2: Work out for you?
Speaker 1: I know, like it's so at some point we will
Speaker 1: learn as a community to just maybe take things on
Speaker 1: a larger sample size instead of like reacting to everything
Speaker 1: week to week. I mean, at some point we'll learn it.
Speaker 1: This year is not that year. And I say that
Speaker 1: as somebody who falls into that trap too occasionally, but
Speaker 1: maybe sometimes we should just wait and then we can
Speaker 1: make more event better evaluations.
Speaker 2: When it is all said and done.
Speaker 1: Let's dive into the fantasy mail bag, shall we this
Speaker 1: week again at taking some of your questions, and this
Speaker 1: one from Jay mcilvainey. I will ask this one to you, Florio.
Speaker 1: Is kay Otten done with Mike Evans back?
Speaker 2: No, not at all.
Speaker 3: I don't think I know. Yesterday was rough, just three targets,
Speaker 3: one catch for thirty yards, and even the week prior
Speaker 3: he had a lot of volume or two weeks it
Speaker 3: was before their by against the forty nine ers. But
Speaker 3: the Giants, I don't think people realize, have been the
Speaker 3: tough like Fantasy points wise, at least the toughest matchup
Speaker 3: for tight ends this year. And the forty nine Ers,
Speaker 3: who they had before their by are in the bott
Speaker 3: like are one of the toughest matchups as well. They're
Speaker 3: down there. So this week the Bucks, who do they
Speaker 3: get this week? It's a much better matchup I'll tell you, yes,
Speaker 3: who have allowed the most fantasy points to tight end.
Speaker 3: So I am not giving up on Kate Otten at all.
Speaker 3: I have him as a start this week and starting him,
Speaker 3: and yeah, I have him on a lot of teams
Speaker 3: and the last two weeks haven't been great, but I'm
Speaker 3: I think it's more matchup based than anything.
Speaker 4: He's not what he was when Evans was out.
Speaker 2: But I still think he is good enough where you
Speaker 2: start him.
Speaker 1: And if you listen to Monday Show, you know that
Speaker 1: Lakwan's gonna kind of be a kat and fan to
Speaker 1: uh yes, preserve his.
Speaker 4: Hair beat out John News the hashtag.
Speaker 1: P serve preserve the hair color. All right, I'll give
Speaker 1: you this one, Lakwan from Megan. Megan, I don't watch it.
Speaker 1: I never watched The Walking Dead, but I guess that's
Speaker 1: what the difference to what Yeah, I never.
Speaker 2: Never call you guys, all right, all right, never cared.
Speaker 1: And then like the Walking even the Walking even the
Speaker 1: Walking Dead stands seem to be annoyed by the show
Speaker 1: at some point, I'm like, well, if you don't like it,
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 4: Three seasons were kind of bad. They got away from
Speaker 4: the point in the real threat, which was the zombies.
Speaker 4: It became people versus people whatever. What's the question from you?
Speaker 2: Anyway?
Speaker 1: The question is is Courtland Sutton an automatic start every week.
Speaker 4: Now, Oh yeah, that's that's Clear's day, man. I mean, look,
Speaker 4: bo Knicks is on the table for offensive Rookie of
Speaker 4: the Year. He's been really playing like he is him
Speaker 4: and it's like there is no matchup that I'm afraid
Speaker 4: for bo Nicks with his ability to create with his
Speaker 4: legs and a lot of those plays that he's hitting
Speaker 4: Courtland Sutton downfield or outside the pocket. So it's one
Speaker 4: of those things where you have a quarterback, a rookie
Speaker 4: quarterback that knows the system executing it against any matchup
Speaker 4: where Courtland Sutton is starting to pull away as that
Speaker 4: actual wide receiver one that we know that he can
Speaker 4: be for fantasy. So I'm not benching Cortland Sutton for
Speaker 4: the rest of the season. He's my flex, He's my
Speaker 4: wide receiver three. He's going in there with guys that
Speaker 4: you know, I can really trust and rely on, you know,
Speaker 4: each and every week.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's been really really good over the last
Speaker 2: few weeks or so.
Speaker 1: I mean, as bon Nicks helps started to come up,
Speaker 1: you know, Cortland Sutton has come along with him. And
Speaker 1: now I mean there are other guys that may be
Speaker 1: coming along as well. You can get into that a
Speaker 1: little bit later. This one from the mediocre Gatsby, which
Speaker 1: I mean if we're keeping it a buck, Jay Gatsby
Speaker 1: himself was pretty mediocre, regardless of what he'd like to
Speaker 1: tell people. Anyway, The question for you, Florio, say, is
Speaker 1: I am able to keep CJ. Stroud for next season
Speaker 1: as a fifteenth round pick. Should I stash him and
Speaker 1: hope he'll return to his rookie year or cut him?
Speaker 3: You should not cut him. Look, I one, he has
Speaker 3: a great matchup this week against the Jags, So like
Speaker 3: I do think this is a week where you could
Speaker 3: start CJ. Stroud if you're in need. But like when
Speaker 3: it comes to keeper leagues, I always want options heading
Speaker 3: into the next season.
Speaker 2: So maybe c J.
Speaker 3: Stroud is not one of your best keeper options and
Speaker 3: you're not planning on keeping him. But a lot changes
Speaker 3: between it is November twenty sixth and late August of
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. You know, like we are, there could
Speaker 3: be injuries, people are gonna change teams, The Texans could
Speaker 3: go out and revamp their entire O line, and you
Speaker 3: could be feeling great about c J. Stroud next year.
Speaker 3: So with him being this late, a keeper I think
Speaker 3: it is worth holding him on your roster, even if
Speaker 3: you're not planning on him keeping him next year just
Speaker 3: in case, because I've had it happen before where like
Speaker 3: I have two keepers I want, and like one gets
Speaker 3: hurt and I don't have a backup option or something
Speaker 3: like that. So keep keep as many options as you
Speaker 3: can on your plate and just you don't have to
Speaker 3: start them. But I think it's worth a bench spot
Speaker 3: going into next season.
Speaker 1: And I say for sure with it being a fifteenth
Speaker 1: round keeper, Like what do you have to lose?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 1: You know, if he does bounce back and look like
Speaker 1: rookie year CJ. Stroud, then you were sitting pretty with
Speaker 1: a QB one in the fifteenth round. So that alone,
Speaker 1: I think is worth you know, throwing the dart and
Speaker 1: taking the shot and hoping that this year is just
Speaker 1: kind of a speed bump more than anything else. Last
Speaker 1: one for you, Lakwan from Row heats. If Pachecko becomes available,
Speaker 1: should I cut Kareem Hunt?
Speaker 4: Ooh? I think so, honestly, only because Pa Checko I
Speaker 4: think he has a higher ceiling than Kareem Hunt in
Speaker 4: that system. I mean just ability he's back and you're
Speaker 4: looking at some Maandre p Ryan last week sporadically he
Speaker 4: gets his thirty two percent, you know, snapshare cutting into
Speaker 4: Kareem Hunt. I don't think that happens for Pacheco when
Speaker 4: he comes back. I think it will be Pacheco's backfield
Speaker 4: where you sprinkle in a little Kareem Hunt, where you
Speaker 4: sprinkle in some j P run. But Pacheco those first
Speaker 4: two games of the season looked like he was off
Speaker 4: to the races to be one of the top five
Speaker 4: running backs this season. So I'm actually confident with him
Speaker 4: coming back and Matt Naggy deploying him in the passing
Speaker 4: game as well, where there's PPR upside that comes with
Speaker 4: Pacheco as hard as he's been running.
Speaker 1: Also, man, I if Isaiah Pachecko comes available like I
Speaker 1: would have?
Speaker 2: Man, who who made that? I'm jumping off?
Speaker 1: Yeahs high hunt THENT Wow. All right, But anyway, thank
Speaker 1: you for all your questions. Obviously, you can hit us
Speaker 1: up on social media at NFL Fantasy, or you can
Speaker 1: hit any of us up individually.
Speaker 2: We'll try to answer your questions there as well. Gotta
Speaker 2: take a quick break, come back.
Speaker 1: We got our deep dive waiver wires low as well
Speaker 1: as some guys that we are putting back in the
Speaker 1: free agent pool.
Speaker 2: That's next on the NFL Fantasy Football Show.
Speaker 1: Back year on the NFL Fantasy Football Show, and uh's
Speaker 1: do some waiver wire deep dives, shall we? And uh Lakwan,
Speaker 1: you have been on this guy for a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks and so hopefully folks are starting to pay attention
Speaker 1: and maybe they'll start to take your advice about this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Devon Vley for the broncos Man, he's second on
Speaker 4: the team right now in reception, so therefore he is
Speaker 4: fitting the mold to be the wide receiver two in
Speaker 4: the second option for bo Nicks. I mean, when we're
Speaker 4: looking at the guy that has a crazy catch radius
Speaker 4: and the guy that's getting most of his yards in chunks,
Speaker 4: he's becoming a big playmaker for bow Knicks. So more so,
Speaker 4: I'm looking at the games where he's been available and
Speaker 4: when he's playing fifty percent or more of the touch
Speaker 4: of the touches, he's getting over double digit fantasy points
Speaker 4: in each of those matchups. So when you're looking down
Speaker 4: the line in the playoffs, you want a valuable guy
Speaker 4: that's making the big plays and actually on the field,
Speaker 4: making the big plays. Devon Valley becomes a valuable flex
Speaker 4: in these championship runs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, he's been He's been great. And again,
Speaker 1: we never really thought at the start of the year
Speaker 1: that the Broncos offense would be a place we'd find
Speaker 1: a whole lot of fantasy production.
Speaker 2: But here we are, and we're.
Speaker 1: Creeping up on Thanksgiving and the Broncos are legitimately contribute.
Speaker 1: Not the running backs, mind, you will stop right there,
Speaker 1: but at least the quarterback and a couple of the
Speaker 1: pass catchers have become actually really fantasy relevant. Speaking of quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: we're doing this half floyo. We're back here again.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 3: We are doing this Will Levis because look, since he's
Speaker 3: returned as the starter from injury, Levis is averaging seventeen
Speaker 3: fantasy points per game and in his upcoming well first
Speaker 3: in those three games, he is top six in yards
Speaker 3: per tempt and passer rating And this stat blew my
Speaker 3: mind from the NFL Research department, first player ever in
Speaker 3: a three game span to post one hundred and five
Speaker 3: plus passer rating while being sacked twenty or more times.
Speaker 3: Do you know how many time you have to get
Speaker 3: sacked that's nearly seven per game to get sacked twenty
Speaker 3: or more times in a three game span.
Speaker 4: I know that is on Will Levis.
Speaker 3: I know that dinks him as a real life It's
Speaker 3: partially on their role line as well, it's on both,
Speaker 3: but it dinks him as a real life quarterback. But
Speaker 3: he's been productive for Fantasy and his upcoming schedule is amazing.
Speaker 3: He gets the Commanders, the Jaguars, the Bengals, the Colts,
Speaker 3: and the Jaguars, all teams that are either middle of
Speaker 3: the pack or a lot like Jags are one of
Speaker 3: the best matchups, the Bengals are one of the best matchups,
Speaker 3: and the Colts are a good matchup as well for quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: So I'm not telling you to pick up Will Levis
Speaker 3: and like ride them out in one quarterback leagues, But
Speaker 3: if you are diving deeper and you've been streaming or
Speaker 3: something like that, he is a nice QB two to have.
Speaker 3: And if you are in two quarterback leagues or super
Speaker 3: flex or anything like that, great QB two because he's
Speaker 3: being productive, he's playing better, and he has a great schedule.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's wild is that Will Levis was like
Speaker 1: Fantasy clause this past week, right, because I mean.
Speaker 2: He ended up having a decent fantasy day.
Speaker 1: Tony Hollered had a great day over one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty scrimmage yards in a touchdown. You got a pretty
Speaker 1: good day out of Calvin Ridley five for ninety three.
Speaker 1: I mean that's a solid fourteen points there. Even Chicka Concho,
Speaker 1: I mean he only had one jets but it was
Speaker 1: a seventy yard touchdown. Like all the skill position guys
Speaker 1: in Tennessee did did pretty well this past week. But
Speaker 1: on the other side, sort of the Texans defense, for
Speaker 1: all of the things that Will Levis did well, the
Speaker 1: Texans defense had eight sacks, they had three takeaways, they
Speaker 1: had a pick six, they had nineteen points.
Speaker 2: So, like, shout out to Will Levis for making sure like.
Speaker 1: Literally literally everybody ate in that game.
Speaker 3: Texans second team ever to do everything that you just said,
Speaker 3: Marcus and still lose.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's kind of amazing.
Speaker 4: I will say I was on the Will Levis train
Speaker 4: in the summer. If we go back a couple couple episodes,
Speaker 4: I was just I was just out there just saying
Speaker 4: Will leveson ball man, But how would you.
Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, would you would you like to wager any
Speaker 1: hairstyles on on a Will Levis.
Speaker 4: I'd rather put male on my hair than have John
Speaker 4: Smith finishes the top five at end this season for
Speaker 4: me to dye my hair blonde.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean, I mean quite as kevi.
Speaker 1: You could just put mao in there and be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's blonde hair dye, like see you look so good?
Speaker 2: All right? Uh, deep dive waiver wire. Though we're talking
Speaker 2: about Will Levis.
Speaker 1: Nick Westbrook A Kine is out there at in a
Speaker 1: lot of leagues, understandably, right, I mean he hasn't He's
Speaker 1: obviously not a household name.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: The production is certainly boom or bust, there's no way
Speaker 1: around that. But he's had double digit points in four
Speaker 1: of his last five games he scored a touchdown and
Speaker 1: six of his last seven. Right now, he is rostered
Speaker 1: in just one point three percent of NFL dot Com league.
Speaker 2: So like he is crazy. He is crazy.
Speaker 1: Available, right, Like, don't don't come back to me with
Speaker 1: the n WY is not available in my league.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's available in your league too, Like he is.
Speaker 2: Just go look.
Speaker 1: Understand though that look they're there, it is. It's not
Speaker 1: a heavy target share for him. You do need him
Speaker 1: to sort of pop a long one, but sort of
Speaker 1: what has worked is that Will Levis likes throwing the
Speaker 1: deep ball. He's been able to connect with westbrook A
Speaker 1: Kine downfield. So if you just understand the situation and
Speaker 1: understand what you're getting yourself into and realize that he's
Speaker 1: more of a ceiling play than a floor play, I
Speaker 1: think you.
Speaker 2: Can sort of make out good for that.
Speaker 1: So in Wi Man, there are two receivers from Indiana
Speaker 1: University that we stand. One is our own Reht Lewis,
Speaker 1: who played under the name Red Clin Schmidt. The other
Speaker 1: is Nick westbrook A Kine. That's it all right. Finally,
Speaker 1: if we are adding folks off the waiver wire, that
Speaker 1: means we should be putting folks back on the waiver wire.
Speaker 2: LaQuan, who are we saying goodbye to?
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I hate to say this guy's name, but Wanda
Speaker 4: Robson roster no leagues man like forty seven percent to
Speaker 4: be e zac as of today. But it's more so
Speaker 4: like you have Tommy DeVito, you have Drew Locke there,
Speaker 4: it's not going to be the same connection you have
Speaker 4: with Daniel Jones, even though he was the problem of
Speaker 4: the offense, but more so looking at his ability. You know,
Speaker 4: it's not going to be deployed as much as like
Speaker 4: we thought, you know, with Drew Locke or Tommy DeVito.
Speaker 4: So I'm more so looking like, if you have to
Speaker 4: make the room for guys that we mentioned, you know,
Speaker 4: for the deep dives, like I'd rather add those guys
Speaker 4: and have Wanda Robinson with a very low ceiling and
Speaker 4: a very very bad floor. When it comes to the
Speaker 4: next couple of weeks with the fantasy playoffs on the rise.
Speaker 1: Oh, I really was hoping for a good things five
Speaker 1: for forty seven, but that also sort of feels like as.
Speaker 2: Good as it's gonna get for.
Speaker 1: That's it's five for forty Seven's that is the story.
Speaker 1: Well that should be should be the name of his autobiography,
Speaker 1: five for forty seven.
Speaker 2: The Wandelle Robinson story.
Speaker 1: Uh, Flori, who are we putting back in the free
Speaker 1: agent pool.
Speaker 3: All of the Broncos running backs? I want no part
Speaker 3: of this backfield at all.
Speaker 2: Look at what it looked like.
Speaker 3: Okay, two weeks ago, Audra Guys to May finally happened,
Speaker 3: and then Marcus correctly was like, I need to see
Speaker 3: this happen two more times. Last week it was back
Speaker 3: to being Javonte Williams as the primary back. Then this
Speaker 3: past week, Davonte led them in snaps, but he split
Speaker 3: carries with Julia McLaughlin. He had four yards on twelve opportunities. Uh,
Speaker 3: McLaughlin got involved in the passing game as well. Sma
Speaker 3: was on a milk carton for most of the game,
Speaker 3: had just three carries. Like none of these guys that
Speaker 3: what is their ceiling? Every once in a while, Javonte
Speaker 3: Williams will give you double digits most weeks, He's not
Speaker 3: going to do that. Julia McLaughlin you cannot trust, but
Speaker 3: he sees enough work to hurt the other two. And
Speaker 3: Audrick Es Tom was a fun thing for a week
Speaker 3: that Sempayton clearly was using control all of fantasy football.
Speaker 4: Like I I apologize.
Speaker 3: Directly to Mike Garafalo. I told him yesterday that I
Speaker 3: would roll the dice on Javonte Williams over Jordan Addison.
Speaker 2: I could have ever seen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And uh, I want absolutely.
Speaker 3: No part of this backfield because it was like, all right,
Speaker 3: they're playing the Raiders, solid matchup, right, should very least
Speaker 3: be able to do something if they had a lead. Nope,
Speaker 3: did absolutely nothing.
Speaker 2: I just be done with his backfields.
Speaker 4: You should try to I'm sure you're blocked.
Speaker 2: Oh no, No, we were texting yesterday.
Speaker 3: Luckily Jayden came through enough where he's probably still gonna win.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that backfield is a disaster right now. And
Speaker 1: I mean I sort of juggling, he said, I like,
Speaker 1: watch the Julia McLoughlin game is gonna happen, and I
Speaker 1: mean he was their leading rusher yesterday. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: all fun and games when No Sean Moreno comes back
Speaker 1: and gets like twelve carries or something like that too. Geez,
Speaker 1: since we're talking about running backs to say goodbye to,
Speaker 1: we can let the Jonathan Brooks dream die for this year,
Speaker 1: you know, like it's I look, if you got him
Speaker 1: in Dynasty, I'm you can hold right.
Speaker 2: If it's a Dynasty situation, a keeper situation.
Speaker 1: Even you know, depending on where you got him and
Speaker 1: what kind of draft pick you have to surrender. I
Speaker 1: think there's still some hope there, but for twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: it's a rap. I'm the Panthers have slow walked this
Speaker 1: as long as possible in terms of getting him back
Speaker 1: on the field. Finally he got back on the field. Then, Yeah,
Speaker 1: sure I expected him to not play a lot. I
Speaker 1: got he get more than five snaps though five snaps.
Speaker 1: He had two cherries in the ballgame, which he turned
Speaker 1: into a grand total of seven yards, no targets. And honestly,
Speaker 1: considering who the opponent was and considering how good the
Speaker 1: Chiefs run defense is, I mean they are the worst
Speaker 1: possible matchup for a running back. The fact that Cuba
Speaker 1: got you fifty eight yards in a touchdown on the
Speaker 1: ground in a game that the Panthers were in, I
Speaker 1: mean legitimately had a chance to win. I think that
Speaker 1: says that if I'm Dave Canalis and I'm the Carolina Panthers,
Speaker 1: I'm not really trying to take Cuba Hubbard off the
Speaker 1: field a whole lot right now. Like I get it,
Speaker 1: the Panthers aren't going anywhere, but they've made a commitment
Speaker 1: to Hubbard, sign him to an extension.
Speaker 2: He's playing really, really well.
Speaker 1: And what's Jonathan Brook's going to give you at this point,
Speaker 1: right Like, he's not gonna somehow vault you into playoff contention.
Speaker 1: You've got him under contract for a couple more years.
Speaker 1: There's no real rush to see what he has at
Speaker 1: this moment. I'm he'll get more snaps. He'll get more
Speaker 1: than the five snaps he got yesterday. He'll get more
Speaker 1: than the two carries he got yesterday. But it's not
Speaker 1: gonna be enough that you're gonna feel great about having
Speaker 1: him in your lineup.
Speaker 2: So we gave it. We gave it our best try.
Speaker 1: We hoped, we kept our fingers crossed, we read all
Speaker 1: the reports, we prayed for rain and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff.
Speaker 2: It's just not happening this year.
Speaker 3: And so I personally hate the Carolina Panthers for this.
Speaker 3: I the rookie they have right into the fire, and
Speaker 3: then their second round rookie running back. They're like, we're
Speaker 3: going to do the slowest rollout in NFL history for you,
Speaker 3: just so you're ready.
Speaker 2: To go for twenty. I mean, I get it, I
Speaker 2: get it. He's great.
Speaker 3: I don't have any issue with Cuba.
Speaker 4: I just want to see more Brooks.
Speaker 2: Watch his highlights in college. Man, that that's the most
Speaker 2: you're gonna get.
Speaker 3: He's amazing.
Speaker 2: He's amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to your point, though, Cuba Hubbard right now is
Speaker 1: fifth in the NFL and rushing yards.
Speaker 4: Insane don't take them off the field, and he did
Speaker 4: it against the Chiefs fifty eight yards on the Chiefs.
Speaker 4: I mean, Jordan Mason is the only running back to
Speaker 4: do that, and he put the second most Fantasy points
Speaker 4: this season as they running back against the Chiefs, Like
Speaker 4: you gotta give him his flowers, like Tuba earned the RB.
Speaker 1: One absolutely, and I mean we all, I mean at
Speaker 1: least I said, and a lot of people are like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean after a month, like johnath Bus' is gonna
Speaker 1: come in, He's gonna take that number one job, And Nope,
Speaker 1: has not happened at all.
Speaker 3: Him Like eight carries something like that agame Like it's
Speaker 3: a secondary rule.
Speaker 2: I mean, look where we get.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's where we get, but that might be the
Speaker 1: ceiling this year, and that might not happen untill like
Speaker 1: week eighteen. So I mean at this point, like we're
Speaker 1: just you know, it's a wash man. Just cut your losses.
Speaker 2: And we'll try again next year with Jonathan Brooks. So
Speaker 2: there it is. I'm gonna try again.
Speaker 1: A lot of us will be we will try again
Speaker 1: a little bit later on in the week. That's going
Speaker 1: to do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy
Speaker 1: Football Podcast. They happy, save and healthy, do good and
Speaker 1: live well. Lock your wounds over Jonathan Brooks, everybody, and
Speaker 1: we will talk to you again tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Wo