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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you Should Know

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Speaker 1: from House Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: How's it going, Chuck? It's going great, Josh? How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty good. Good. Before we get started, Josh,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to say a couple of words if I may. Okay, Uh,

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Speaker 1: let's how about gun death. How about that for a segue. Well,

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Speaker 1: Jerry's crying now, so I think a gun death is

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Speaker 1: a good way to go. Okay, all right, So um

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Speaker 1: for Clint, are you? Yeah, Well I've never seen you

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Speaker 1: get choked up? Okay, alright, alright, so gun death, gun death,

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Speaker 1: basically chuck. There's a new study that was released though

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Speaker 1: I think about four hours ago. Really yeah, less than

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Speaker 1: that actually, um, And it found that states that have

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Speaker 1: of them. See, we're one of those states. You can

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Speaker 1: and then take them to New York and sell them. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: states like ours actually have a higher in stince per

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Speaker 1: less shocking is that these statistics are found in the US.

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Speaker 1: Because you can make a pretty good case that, um,

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Speaker 1: of two hundred and seventy million guns. Yes, and that

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Speaker 1: is ninety guns for every hundred people. Right, And just

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Speaker 1: to put that in perspective, India, which is kind of

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Speaker 1: But we're not talking about gun control today. No, that's

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