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Speaker 3: the jet apart. Good morning, super and welcome to the

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Speaker 3: Now Dunks podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, November sixteenth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what happened to popping packs? Come on, man, let's

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Speaker 4: It's still it's still around, it's still around. We'll get

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Speaker 4: back to it at some point. Yeah around, Well, it's around.

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Speaker 4: It's a round. It hasn't been killed off just yet,

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Speaker 4: but uh, it'll be back at some point. You've been

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Speaker 4: on it, you featured, You actually did quite well when

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Speaker 2: I do it.

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Speaker 5: I'm ready read this guy's he's got nothing to do

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Speaker 5: all day. He just sits there his garage for like

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Speaker 5: eight hours. After the show, let's get to pop in

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Speaker 5: some packs. Man, Good news, guys. Before we get into

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Speaker 5: the games. It had been I believe ten days since

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Speaker 5: our last weggie, but we got one last night.

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Speaker 3: The Bulls can do no wrong right now. It was

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Speaker 3: it was really Dwight Howard. If we want to give

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Speaker 3: him credit, I guess I'm blocking. Yeah, exactly, a little

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Speaker 3: layup attempt there, so weggie number seven. That's good. It

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Speaker 3: had been a hot minute, like I said, since we've

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Speaker 3: Looked there for a good minute. So seven. You know,

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Speaker 3: the pace task has slowed down significantly because, like I said,

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Speaker 3: we didn't have one there for a while. But it's okay.

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Speaker 3: You know, they come in bunches, so I'd assume we'll

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Speaker 2: Come on, Wilson, get stuck there for a sec.

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Speaker 3: We've got a lot of games to recap here. We'll

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Speaker 3: especially the Nuggets Mavericks game. Off of the Luka Doncic

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Speaker 3: It was the last game of the night. DeRozan and

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Speaker 3: you kidding me? Yeah? I mean, Trey. This was a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, an eighteen point win for dumb balls. But like

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Speaker 1: amazing performance from the Chicago Bulls. DeMar DeRozan hit a

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Speaker 1: Guy Lonzo ball monster game. Twenty seven points, seven threes,

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Speaker 1: for Derek Jones Junior. He's kind of settled into the

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Speaker 1: nonetheless great stuff from Billy Donovan. The Warriors and Clippers.

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Speaker 1: They both really trapped DeRozan and Zach Levine pretty hard

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Speaker 1: huge day for the Bulls. They got the win, they

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Speaker 1: They got John Hollinger to admit his preseason predictions were inaccurate.

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Speaker 1: was tweeting Sea Red last night, everybody's a Bulls fan

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Speaker 3: Night, Crazy crazy Lee. I mean, I love the enthusiasm

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Speaker 3: here from this guy. I mean, they look amazing. And

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Speaker 3: I asked in the headline for this show, Hey, look,

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Speaker 3: does it get some clicks? Let's hope so. But do

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Speaker 3: you see any similarities maybe between this year's Balls and

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Speaker 3: last year's Sons, And I want, I want, I'll set

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Speaker 3: that up with especially like the two guys that are

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Speaker 3: And by the way, we'll get to them winning ninth

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Speaker 3: straight two they're continuing to get it done. But those guys,

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Speaker 3: I think there's some like comparisons there with how DeRozan

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Speaker 3: operates in the mid range and it's just dominating games

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Speaker 3: right now, and then Levine's sort of playing the role

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Speaker 3: of a Devin Booker. I see the similarities, and I

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Speaker 3: think there's a couple more, But maybe I'm reaching.

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Speaker 4: What do you think, Ah, yeah, I can see. Why

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Speaker 4: are you going there with that? With the mid range game,

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Speaker 4: but that simply isn't really a part of his regular game.

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Speaker 4: He's just so lethal though in that mid range and

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Speaker 4: back to DeMar DeRozan's early Raptor's days, remember he just

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Speaker 4: couldn't really, he just didn't have the expertise to get

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Speaker 4: bit like Chris Paul in the sense that like, just

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Speaker 4: earlier this season, and he has done it a lot

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Speaker 4: late in games, so much more belief that they can

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Speaker 4: actually close our games. That's something that they hadn't been

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Speaker 4: and of course Lebron wasn't playing there, but that doesn't

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Speaker 4: Davis had an okay game before he got that unlucky ejection.

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Speaker 4: But I also just think that the Lakers aren't that good.

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Speaker 4: the Bulls had this game from the start, and the

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Speaker 4: whole lot for the ball so far this season. Billy

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Billy Donovan, he's just not smacking on that gum.

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Speaker 6: He's thinking about ways to make Derek Jones Junior and

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Speaker 6: the Bulls better. And this was a backbreaking game for

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Speaker 6: and Anthony Davis courted him over and over. They ended

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Speaker 6: eight in their eye, looking phenomenal, looking like that complimentary

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Speaker 6: and he was waiting at the phone and Rob Polanka

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Speaker 6: this is this is the Bulls All star. He's been

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Speaker 1: Right now though, Yeah, they might be the starting backcourt

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Speaker 6: Very well, could be yea it were tomorrow for sure.

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Speaker 4: What did you think, hate hey must have said some horrible,

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Speaker 4: I mean, the game was over anyway at that point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very quick, But yeah, in the end,

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Speaker 3: With the way the balls were playing and the balls

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Speaker 1: Oh, definitely, yeah. I mean the Bulls are at their

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this was the game where they needed Davis to

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Speaker 3: All right, let's keep it going here. Lots of games

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Speaker 4: Well, I've got a master class ad Reid coming up

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Speaker 3: you'll be on the top ten, but so many times

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00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,680
Speaker 3: it doesn't. And I think he went one for six

431
00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 3: down the stretch. They had one nice play like out

432
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 3: of you know, out of bounds on the sidelines play

433
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 3: where he spun around. He got a nice little lay

434
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,680
Speaker 3: up that was great. But all the other shots he's taken,

435
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 3: it's like these wild like what do you do in

436
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 3: heat checks. It's just not a great point guard play

437
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 3: in my opinion.

438
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Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty five and thirteen for Towns. I think he

439
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,160
Speaker 1: had sixteen in the fourth quarter, But like you're saying,

440
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 1: Skeets didn't have a shot or a rebound the last

441
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 1: two eighteen. That's why the Timberwolves keep losing these close games.

442
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 1: Part of it, no doubt, is that Russell goes into

443
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,239
Speaker 1: ice in my veins mode and he just wants to

444
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 1: be the one who hits the game winning shot, is

445
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,920
Speaker 1: what it feels like. And you know he is an

446
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,360
Speaker 1: off the dribble creator, I suppose, but they would certainly

447
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,719
Speaker 1: love to have Ricky Rubio there passing it to Anthony

448
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,879
Speaker 1: Edwards or honestly getting Towns involved in some way. I

449
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 1: put as much of it on Towns though, Like you're

450
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,880
Speaker 1: seven feet tall man, literally grab a rebound and put

451
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 1: it up for an offensive rebound, go near the hoop

452
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 1: sometime instead of just waiting for somebody to pass you

453
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,160
Speaker 1: the ball. So I don't know, maybe he's too nice

454
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 1: to D'Angelo Russell. That was a large reason why the

455
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 1: Timberwolves got him in the first place, is because they're

456
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:04,679
Speaker 1: close friends. But you need somebody better. I don't like

457
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 1: Russell has to go or Towns has to go, because

458
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 1: that pairing doesn't work because Towns will take the back seat,

459
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 1: and he's the most talented player there. I mean maybe

460
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,959
Speaker 1: outside of Edwards. Who knows those two are it's a

461
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: toss up, but Towns should be better. Like, he had

462
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 1: an awesome game and then he just completely disappeared for

463
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: the last two minutes. And it happens all the time

464
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 1: with the Tower Wolves.

465
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think tests.

466
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Unfortunately, there's not really much of a pecking order there.

467
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 6: It seems like all three guys are sort of on

468
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 6: the same level. Because they traded Andrew Wiggins for the

469
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,399
Speaker 6: very reason that he needed to take a back seat

470
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 6: to Carl Anthony Towns, and they traded him for Dangel Russell.

471
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 6: They attached a draft pick that became Jonathan Kuminga, and wow,

472
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 6: did the Warriors win that fricking trade? And now Dangel

473
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 6: Russell's taken shots in the last final minute. There of

474
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,719
Speaker 6: a game where Karl Anthony Towns won them this thing.

475
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 6: He had an incredible fourth quarter, three and a half

476
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 6: minutes left, They're up five.

477
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 2: Karl Anthony Towns is yelling and screaming, going crazy.

478
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was feeling good. And that's when you give

479
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 6: your franchise player the ball. And yeah, the last two

480
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 6: and a half minutes, Russell took seven shots and Towns

481
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 6: took one and Russell it is it's yeah, something that

482
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 6: has to be either rectified with trade or I mean

483
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 6: a real sit down with this guy to tell him

484
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 6: this is, this is not how it's gonna work. Even

485
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 6: even if you think or the pecking order is that

486
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 6: they're on the same level. When the guy is scorching

487
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 6: hot like that, he just has to he has to

488
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 6: have the ball more and that's it. I mean, just

489
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,719
Speaker 6: go through him, even if he misses. I mean, this

490
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 6: is this was his game. He had thirty five freaking points,

491
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 6: so that that was that was what happened in the

492
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 6: last few minutes. Whether the Sons were good or not,

493
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 6: the Wolves were just horrendous and I'm sure the Sons

494
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 6: looked on the other side of the floor and saw

495
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 6: a team that, you know, kind of looked like them

496
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 6: a couple of years ago. You can't close out games.

497
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 6: We have the confidence that now after going to the final,

498
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 6: we feel like we can beat you. And the Wolves

499
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 6: had to take this one from them and could have

500
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 6: just helped by giving it to Karl Anthony Towns a

501
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 6: little bit. I mean, he just wanted it so bad.

502
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 6: But if your buds, if Dangel Russell, if you're friends

503
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 6: with Karl Anthony Towns and you see your buddy yelling

504
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 6: and screaming and being as demonstrative as he's ever been

505
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 6: on the floor, and you don't you don't give it

506
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,719
Speaker 6: to him. You just keep shooting it, keep like slinging

507
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 6: that lefty shot that he can get at any time

508
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 6: in any place.

509
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 2: When Karl Anton Towns is having a great game.

510
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 6: I don't know, not a great friendship, I am. Oh,

511
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 6: just let him, just let him rid Man, just let

512
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 6: him go score. He is he is one of the

513
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 6: most talented players in the league. And you know, they're

514
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 6: trying to bounce back, they're trying to find their way,

515
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 6: and unfortunately they traded that one Wiggan sort of you know,

516
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 6: the mess up with that hierarchy and that packing order

517
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 6: for another one now and the Warriors have found a

518
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 6: way to Yeah, we got Andrew Wiggins, but you're not

519
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 6: taking final shots here.

520
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 2: You're you're you know who you are on this team.

521
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,160
Speaker 2: And he's freaking found an incredible role.

522
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 6: And he's playing well over there, but it's not happening

523
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 6: with Minnesota right now.

524
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 3: Well, that goes back to my original point. The Sun's

525
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 3: fortunes changed when they got Chris Paul, when they got

526
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: a guy in here that knows how to operate in

527
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter who should get touches, can get his

528
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 3: own bucket, of course, just like complete control of the game.

529
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 3: Now I've looked around the leaguely, I can't find another

530
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 3: Chris Paul. I don't think for the Wolves to go get.

531
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 3: But hell, maybe it is someone like a Dragage that

532
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: I'm sure they could get in a trade with the Raptors,

533
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: who really don't have much need from him. Maybe there's

534
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 3: someone else I'm forgetting they need, like to meet a

535
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 3: vet point guard that maybe is not starting games by

536
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: any means, but you can have some trust in in

537
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 3: the final couple of minutes to get you over the hump.

538
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 3: And maybe there's another name that I'm forgetting that you

539
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 3: could thought of.

540
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Speaker 4: I don't know, not really a name, but I think

541
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 4: the word there is trust, and I think that is

542
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 4: with dragas that he can take the big shot, but

543
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 4: I think he understands as well. It's more important to

544
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 4: get the guy like Towns the ball or ed was whoever,

545
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 4: it is open for that right shot. But Russell isn't

546
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 4: that guy. Russell is the guy I like you guys

547
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 4: are saying he that's like, I'm going to try to

548
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 4: take over and win this game. And he went one

549
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 4: for ten from three last night, and he has those moments,

550
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 4: there's no doubt about it, but those moments really do

551
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 4: come few and far between compared to Knights like last night,

552
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 4: where it's like, again, the Wolves had a chance. They

553
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 4: were really in this game, but they just did not

554
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 4: know how to execute. And when you've got a point

555
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 4: guard who doesn't know how to then it's hard to

556
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 4: see how the team can overcome that. So yeah, he's

557
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 4: got a big contract though, and I'm not sure even

558
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 4: what his trade value would be. Like, you know, he

559
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 4: certainly has has his moments and he can get hot,

560
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,479
Speaker 4: but I just don't think he can trust him late

561
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 4: in the game.

562
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 3: People in the stream team pointing out that John Wold

563
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 3: does rame with Chris Paul. That's a good point, which

564
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I said, dra and even I would like

565
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 3: counter myself a little bit. You know, he's he is

566
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 3: a bit more of a scorer than me, BEI a playmaker,

567
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 3: but he's a veteran gor in this league. So there

568
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 3: is again it goes back to trust a little bit.

569
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 3: But you know, let us know, there's some sure those

570
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 3: other ones, like people are saying Malcolm Brogdon, Yeah, he

571
00:25:59,400 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: would be great.

572
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course he can't be traded.

573
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: But he would be fantastic as like, yeah, just a

574
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 3: sound guard to try and take it Chris Benjamin Simmons

575
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 3: Ben Simmons, Well, I mean, yeah, the Wolves. That was

576
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 3: the one I said was always gonna happen. Ben Simmons

577
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 3: was gonna end up on Minnesota.

578
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 4: But he certainly would run it to him not shooting

579
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 4: the ball late anyway, So well, yeah, that would be

580
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 4: the opposite problem for Russell to be like, Okay, at

581
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 4: times you gotta shoot it.

582
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 3: You gotta shoot it, man say the opposite. But I mean, also, like,

583
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 3: what's the deal at this point for for Maury uh

584
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 3: to get Simmons to Minnesota. I mean, I guess a

585
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 3: hell of a lot of draft picks, and what Russell's

586
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 3: got to be included? And is Beasley there? I mean,

587
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's it's it's becomes a little more

588
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 3: difficult to try and figure out what Moury would be

589
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 3: all that interested in trading Man Simmons. Okay, well let's

590
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 3: keep it going. Another hot team tray the Wizards.

591
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Wizards. I'll be honest not super impressed by

592
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: beating the Pelicans. The comeback is nice, but first half

593
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: leads aren't real. The Wizards played one half of basketball

594
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: and got the win. Here. I was ready to dunk

595
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: on them. Tell you they're only beaten under five hundred teams,

596
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: which is true. They're six and two against teams that

597
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: are under five hundred. But unfortunately the Washington Wizards are

598
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: also four and one against teams that are over five hundred.

599
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: So let me swish their wand a little bit here

600
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: skeets tailor two halves in this one. The Pels up

601
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: nineteen in the first half. Who cares. The Wizards got

602
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: it almost all back right at the start of the

603
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: third quarter. A seventeen to three run in the first

604
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: six minutes of the second half cut into most of

605
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: the deficit. Spencer Dinwitty hit three threes that really got

606
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: the Czards back in the mix, and they finished things

607
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: off in the fourth kind of similarly, fourteen to zero

608
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: run down the stretch, played a ton of defense and

609
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: got little contributions from basically everybody. Two threes for KCP,

610
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: two for Kuzma, four assists for Dinwitty, A bunch of

611
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: free throws and MVP chance for Montrez Harrell. It was

612
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: a great team win for the Wizards. No Brad Beal again,

613
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: so Dinwiddie and Aaron Holliday stepped up. A nice game

614
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: for Denny Abdilla as well. But I'm most impressed with

615
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: the defense by the Wizards. They held New Orleans to

616
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 1: one hundred points in itself not a huge accomplishment, but

617
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: that's the sixth time this season the Wizards have held

618
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: an opponent to one hundred or fewer. They did that

619
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: five times all of last year.

620
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

621
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: Having these players who know where to be and who

622
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: are going to give a solid effort every night has

623
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: been beneficial to the Wizards. They can beat good teams

624
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: and bad teams alike. Another classic for Washington. I don't know, Skeets,

625
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: you're taking a little bit of credit here saying calling

626
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: them the Zards has really changed the.

627
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 3: Season for them tongue to be honest, But yes, we

628
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: might have to start calling them the Whiz because they're

629
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: stacking up the w that's right. Yeah, I can't believe

630
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 3: they don't do the thing.

631
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 7: Uh.

632
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: I guess the Hawks were doing it right with their

633
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 3: Twitter account, where you start putting the w's. Yeah, how

634
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 3: are the Wizards not doing that? You know, at what point,

635
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: what's the streak got to get to Lee where you

636
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: start putting the w's in there?

637
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 4: I would think three in a three, yeah, because then

638
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 4: you already that, Yeah, that's a spelling mistake. Talking about

639
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 4: actually former Lakers not being able to close out Brandon

640
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 4: Ingram missed like five at least shots in that fourth

641
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 4: court in last five minute. Now they weren't terrible shots,

642
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 4: but just not able to knock them down. That really

643
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 4: did affect the Pelicans as well there late, But you

644
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 4: just felt that the Wizards were going to get out

645
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 4: of this somehow. You know, a nineteen point leading against

646
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Speaker 4: any team of the nbasedsed to come back against. And

647
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 4: Spencer did step it up in that third quarter especially,

648
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 4: And there was a play at one time where Daniel

649
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 4: gaff had got the block and it went to Spencer Dinwoody,

650
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 4: who found Denny Addier, So it went from Dan to

651
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 4: Din to Dan for the deuce. I was going to

652
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 4: tweet something like that, but I could I was workshopping it,

653
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 4: but I couldn't quite get it out there. But yeah,

654
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 4: good good stuff from the Wizards. I mean, because this

655
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 4: is not a team that we, you know, seriously are

656
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Speaker 4: putting into like certainly a top four in the East

657
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 4: right now. And if they dropped the game like that

658
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 4: last night, that's when you just go, see, this is team.

659
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 4: You don't need to believe in this team. But instead

660
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 4: they do come back and they do get a good

661
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 4: win in front of their fans. And I thought the

662
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 4: Pelicans for three and a half quarters actually competed in

663
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 4: this game, and they just got over run really in

664
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Speaker 4: the end. So you know, it was a fun game.

665
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 4: I enjoyed watching it. I'm joining the Zods right now.

666
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 4: Keep it going, Zods.

667
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, look three and zero without Beal. I think

668
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 3: what's fascinating is like they've missed Burton's for half the season, tasks,

669
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: Ruy Hachimura hasn't played at all, and even coach Unseld

670
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: has like been asked about this, like, you know, are

671
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 3: you worried maybe at all when all these guys come

672
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 3: back and you got to find a role from them,

673
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: which could be you know, difficult when you're playing this

674
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 3: well and you're winning these games and the guys that

675
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 3: are like flourishing right now, you don't want to take

676
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 3: minutes away from them. But you know, he sort of said,

677
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 3: maybe we overthink this stuff as coaches. You know, just

678
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 3: more players, more great players, the better for you. You just

679
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 3: rip the band aid off and see how it looks

680
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 3: is to quote them there, but yeah, what do you

681
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 3: think of the whiz last night? Or then moving forward here, Well.

682
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Speaker 6: A couple signs of a real good team. First they

683
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 6: let a team that they should beat be up nineteen

684
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Speaker 6: points against them.

685
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: You know, the good teams do that.

686
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Speaker 6: And then in the fourth quarter they put the clamps

687
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 6: on them at home to win the game. It look

688
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 6: like the Pelicans were going streaking, looked like they were

689
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,239
Speaker 6: going to win their second game in a row for

690
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 6: the first time this season, as they've only won one game.

691
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: They've only won two games now.

692
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Speaker 6: And the fourth quarter where the Pels played very well

693
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 6: through three quarters. They were up up seven going into

694
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 6: the fourth. It scored eighty points, but yeah, the balls

695
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 6: stopped moving and they just sort of relied on Brandon Ingram,

696
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 6: who just came back from injury, and unfortunately he couldn't

697
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 6: put it away for them. But it looked like a

698
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Speaker 6: win that the Pels were going to have. And then

699
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Speaker 6: the wizz Yeah, they tightened the clamps defensively, as Trace

700
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 6: had kept them under one hundred there, and like the Knicks,

701
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 6: we're going to get to like you let some teams,

702
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Speaker 6: even the bloody Pacers, get out to big leads, but

703
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Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter at home, you just need to

704
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 6: play one incredit ble quarter of defense. And that's what

705
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 6: happened against this Pelicans team.

706
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Speaker 2: That Yeah, it's sad. It sure looked like they were

707
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Speaker 2: going to get a w.

708
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Speaker 6: And they obviously looked like the worst team in the

709
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Speaker 6: Western Conference, worse than the Oklahoma City Thunder.

710
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Speaker 2: How is this possible?

711
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: House they're worse than the Rockets. Yeah, it's a nice

712
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: battle there to Rockets and Pelicans. Yeah, they're pretty bad.

713
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Speaker 3: You talked about a team just having to play like

714
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: one good quarter of defense and maybe you get the win.

715
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Speaker 3: That was a bit like the next victory last night.

716
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: And this was garrous this game, but the next limited

717
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 3: the Pacers to two baskets in the fourth quarter. That's

718
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 3: not a type of two baskets and they won ninety

719
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Speaker 3: two eighty four. I don't have a whole lot on

720
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: this game. I did watch it down the stretch. Emmanuel

721
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: quickly I thought played the best game of his season.

722
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 3: I thought he was great, sixteen points off the bench.

723
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 3: I saw people commenting over at posting and toasting, saying

724
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 3: like Quickly played like he did a few eight balls

725
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: of medical grade shit pregame locker room because he was

726
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: jittery and flying all over the court. It's so true.

727
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 3: So good game from him Rose as well, But man,

728
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: this was a brickfast lee early on in Madison square guard,

729
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: and you know, the big bongs were just the balls

730
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Speaker 3: clanking off there.

731
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Speaker 4: But yeah, it.

732
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Speaker 3: Was I think, like because I think that, I'm not

733
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 3: sure the Nicks even hit a three and the Picers

734
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: were like one for nine. They had a couple of

735
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 3: air balls in there, so they eventually played enough defense

736
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: though to get the win.

737
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was that bench unit again for the Knicks,

738
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 4: giving them that lift and emanual Quickly. I think it's

739
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 4: a bit of a reach here, but I think he's

740
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 4: got some John Stark's quality there that he can hit

741
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 4: those threes and get the crowd going because he is

742
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 4: all energy, he's all hype. He doesn't have the prettiest

743
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 4: mechanics in the world, but the ball goes in four

744
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 4: to four from downtown last night and hit some huge ones,

745
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 4: and yeah, the Pacers couldn't hit a shot I think

746
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 4: in the last six and a half minutes of the game.

747
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 4: I don't think they hit a field goal. I think

748
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 4: they hit a couple of free throws there but could

749
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Speaker 4: not hit. And Sabonus had the almost the Patrick Ewing

750
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 4: like rim out there as well, So it was great.

751
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 4: The crowd was going wild again last night. And you know,

752
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 4: the Knicks definitely they've got still some concerns with that

753
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 4: starting unit, but the bench unit is giving them enough

754
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 4: right now, so I think that's good. It shows at

755
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 4: least they are a deep team, even if they're not

756
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 4: all on the same page on the same night. So

757
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 4: at least that's something there for TIBs to work on.

758
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, fun game, fun last quarter again. I mean

759
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 4: I just love turning in to those last quarters and

760
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 4: seeing the crowd going crazy in something like emanual quickly,

761
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 4: like you say, ginnery, bouncy, but knocking in shots, taking them,

762
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 4: not afraid to That's where I draw the comparison as

763
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 4: well with John Starks. He's like, all right, we haven't

764
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 4: got much else going, I'm gonna take these shots. And

765
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 4: they they worked for him last night.

766
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Speaker 3: Yeah, a part of me thinks like the Madison Square

767
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 3: Garden crowd loves like a nainety two to eighty four

768
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 3: game for then like a yeah, and it's like it

769
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 3: does take them back to the hey days of Stokes

770
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 3: days of the next you know, I'm play on your

771
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 3: bulls train because it wasn't pretty, but they do relish it.

772
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 3: I feel like an MSG in these typing games.

773
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, make Breen was loving getting the time about

774
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: Pacers versus Knicks from the nineteen nineties, and it's impossible

775
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: not to when you see a ninety two to eighty

776
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: four score. Yeah, but this was not a fun fourth

777
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: quarter to watch. I thought it was enjoyable too, but

778
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: not actually pleasing to the eyes. The bench versus starters

779
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: thing is very weird though. For the Knicks. For the

780
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: third straight game, every one of their starters was negative

781
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: and every one of their players off the bench was positive. Yeah,

782
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: feels like Tibodau was gonna make a change at some point.

783
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: He had kind of hinted at that the fact that

784
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: the starters in particular haven't been playing defense, and we

785
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: know the Knicks defense is really falling off this season.

786
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: Outside of like last night's fourth quarter basically. So I

787
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: wonder though, like where's the move to be made?

788
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Speaker 5: Right?

789
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,959
Speaker 4: Like, I don't think.

790
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Speaker 1: Kemba Walker is gonna come out of the starting lineup.

791
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: I don't think Mitchell Robinson's coming out of the starting lineup.

792
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: Maybe Fournier, like maybe he gets a taste on the bench.

793
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I don't know. The starters seem

794
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: like the starters to me for the Knicks. They're just

795
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: not very good.

796
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, task would you, I mean, would you suggest to Tibbs,

797
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 3: like is it taking Fournier out for somebody? I mean,

798
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 3: Mitchell Robinson goes down with an injury again in this

799
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: game last night.

800
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Speaker 6: But what do you think if you take Evan Fournier

801
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 6: out of the starting lineup? I mean, you're gonna have

802
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 6: the Knicks faithful Hawking Loogis on Tim Tom Thibodeau. I think,

803
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 6: I think, like you will have such a backlash from

804
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 6: this team and from these this fan base after signing

805
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 6: that they made.

806
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I.

807
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: Think it hasn't been that great. I mean, I'd like

808
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 3: that game.

809
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Speaker 6: He has really good, but they signed him to a

810
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 6: big deal and he wasn't very good as a Boston

811
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 6: backup last year. So I don't think it's a recipe

812
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Speaker 6: for success. I mean, it was the signing that wasn't

813
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 6: the best part. You know, it wasn't the best move,

814
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 6: I mo. But the same with Kemba. They limit his minutes,

815
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 6: you know, they they obviously, you know, keep kembat like

816
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 6: twenty twenty four minutes and whoever's going at the end,

817
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 6: whether it's quickly or Derek Rose plays at the end.

818
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 6: But I agree with Trey that the starters are sort

819
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 6: of the starters, and that's.

820
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't you can't obviously bring Rose into that

821
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 4: starting lineup, but I don't think I think that would be

822
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 4: good for the Knicks to have Camber and have and

823
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 4: then replace him with the Rose. But yeah, Mitchell Robinson

824
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 4: injured his ankle again, maybe every couple of games. But

825
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 4: if they get a plus twenty two off from Taj Gibson,

826
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 4: they won't.

827
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 3: Notice that it's crazier.

828
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 4: I don't understand how, you know, I know that plus

829
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 4: minus thing is a very weird stat But he took

830
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 4: two shots, had eight rebounds and finished the plus twenty.

831
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 4: I think he was the best in fact for the

832
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 4: Knicks on the night there last night.

833
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: But but he is good, honestly, like.

834
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 4: He's played in a backup role for ten or fifteen minutes.

835
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 4: But if they start him like we saw in the

836
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 4: playoffs last year, that's where disaster. But they may have

837
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 4: to if if Noel is still out and and we

838
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 4: know that Mitchell Robinson tends to miss a few games

839
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 4: when he goes down, so they might be might be

840
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 4: a little bit shorthanded there.

841
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, what about getting real crazy? So somebody on Twitter

842
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: last night saying, just swap the units completely, all the

843
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 3: bench guys used to the bench, just if it works.

844
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 3: They got this victory, but the next had a little

845
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: bit of a slide there at home. They had lost

846
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: three in a row and two overall. But yeah got

847
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 3: it done outscoring the Pacers twenty three to ten in

848
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 3: the final twelve minutes of this game.

849
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Speaker 1: I saw Bing Bong guy, and don't you regret not

850
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: coming to the next guy. We're both in its tendants.

851
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: Last night they link toughly got the W so I

852
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: guess that's the gruesome twosome to pair together because Bingbong

853
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: and Face Shake that ended up being a loss. I'm

854
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: glad to see they got the right combination.

855
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 3: Oh so it's like, yeah, they're trying to find the

856
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: combo of guys from that video that you get there

857
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 3: in the building results in a win. Oh that's interesting.

858
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's early. Everybody's looking for their rontations.

859
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 3: Still, that's right. Finally, from last night's games, and again

860
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Speaker 3: we'll get to a few in the second block of

861
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: this show after our first commercial break. But task were

862
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: there any other games that you just you just have

863
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 3: to say something about.

864
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 6: Well, you guys mentioned how that game in New York

865
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 6: was ugly. There's an ugly game going on in Cleveland

866
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 6: as well, Boston in town and neither team.

867
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: Got to forty points at half. It was not fun

868
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 2: to watch.

869
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 6: Actually, a writer for The Athletic J King reminisced while

870
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 6: watching this game about an old series in two thousand

871
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 6: and two, a series probably no one remembers Celtics and Pistons.

872
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 6: It was a second round series. Neither team in six

873
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 6: games got to one hundred points once and yeah, old

874
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 6: nineties basketball. You want to talk John Starks. I saw

875
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 6: the names of Mark Price and Ralph Samson and Tom

876
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 6: Chambers flying around the internet yesterday. That's fun. But in

877
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 6: this game, it was not enjoyable. It came down to

878
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 6: the wire with these two teams, and it was Ricky

879
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 6: Rubio again for the Cavs taking the ball at al Horford.

880
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 6: Just a couple oldies to keep it old. It was

881
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 6: just one on one. Rubio thought he had the advantage

882
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 6: against Alhrford and he was hitting again like shots. He

883
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 6: hit an MSG, some wild balanced shots. But they desperately

884
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 6: need calling Sexton back. As much as I'm a Rubio,

885
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 6: they do need somebody who can score. They also didn't

886
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 6: have Jared Allen in this game, and it ended up

887
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 6: the Celtics having enough offensively in a bad, bad game.

888
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 6: Another one, another bad game for Jason Tatum, who we've

889
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 6: all sort of just I think labeled as a perennial

890
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 6: All Star because of his status, but right now he

891
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 6: would not be an All Star the way he's shooting

892
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 6: the ball below forty percent this season. And they were

893
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 6: able to just scrape by against a Cavs team who

894
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 6: seems like, you know, they always have enough to win,

895
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 6: next man up type of thing, but Colin Sexton really

896
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 6: is needed for them to create, and they didn't have

897
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 6: Jared Allen, who is a late scratch and Evan Mobley

898
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 6: finally had a bad game started at center. He hit

899
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 6: zero shots, although I say a bad game still at

900
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 6: five assists because like Lebron, his passing is probably his

901
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 6: best quality. But he's so good nine rebounds as well.

902
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 6: But yeah, they you know they do have they do

903
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 6: have a limit. I think you know, Dean Wade was

904
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 6: looking like Dan Wade, not d Wade out there, Lowry

905
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 6: marking in, Kevin Love, sext In now Jared Allen. I

906
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 6: guess there is a limit for these guys. So, you know,

907
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 6: an ugly win for Boston, which I don't know. Maybe

908
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 6: they come around skeeze you are a fan of or

909
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 6: you thought they were going to be good this year.

910
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 6: Their defense is really good.

911
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 8: Their defense has been good. Yeah, they're just they're rough

912
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 8: to watch. Offensively, it is not pretty. Yeah, but got

913
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 8: enough to get it done last night. I would just

914
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 8: add for the Calves, and I know you've been pushing

915
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 8: the Rubio All Star prediction since the preseason, which is amazing,

916
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 8: and he's played great. I just don't like your team's

917
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 8: chances of winning a game when Rubio is the one

918
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 8: being asked to like actually score down the stretch time

919
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 8: and time again, because That's what I saw watching this

920
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 8: game last night. It was like, hey, Rubio, can you

921
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 8: go pull something out of your ass again here?

922
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 3: And you know, take a take a three year off

923
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: balance jumper, and he did hit a couple, but it

924
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 3: was just like, he can't. That's not Rubio, That's never

925
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 3: been Rubio. So yeah, I didn't like the Cavs chances

926
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 3: to win when that was happening time and time again.

927
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 3: They're down the stretch of this game, which was close.

928
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: I mean, they were in it, but.

929
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 6: Boston Denzel Valentine stepped on the sideline when he was

930
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 6: trying to hit a three. That career that's not going

931
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 6: too well. And then Jeddie Osman hit the side of

932
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 6: the backboard. Although you know he did do some good things,

933
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 6: he definitely did, but yeah, relying on a bunch of

934
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 6: old names that sometimes they don't come through.

935
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: I would want the ball.

936
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 6: More and Darius Carland sands for for sure, and you

937
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 6: had to call on Colin. I think at some point

938
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 6: he's got to come back because he's just a guy

939
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 6: who gets you a bucket. You know, Rubio should not

940
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 6: be a twenty point per game guy.

941
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 3: It's not his thing, all right, we'll take a break.

942
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 3: We'll get to some of the other games from last

943
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 3: night and a little is this news? Okay, back with

944
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 3: no dunks, Let's do a little is this news? How

945
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,479
Speaker 3: little is this news? To allow us to still touch

946
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: on a few games from last night? Got some headlines

947
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 3: for you guys, gonna throw them at you tell me

948
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: not whether their newsworthy. First one is from NBA dot com.

949
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: Ever heard of it? Luka Doncic leaves the MAVs signature

950
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 3: win with an apparent left ankle injury.

951
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 6: Task is this news signature win NBA dot Com?

952
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: I don't know about that.

953
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 6: They won, and I would say that Luka Doncic will

954
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 6: be back soon because he's a tough soob that has

955
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 6: a lot of ankle injuries.

956
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say this isn't news.

957
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 6: Because Christops talked to Luca after the game, and then

958
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 6: Christops came to the media, he was asked, hey, yeah,

959
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 6: do you talk to Luca And he said, well, he said, hey,

960
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 6: I'll be good. I'll be good, So you can look

961
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 6: into it and say it wasn't present tense. He didn't say, hey,

962
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 6: I'm good right now, but I'll be good soon, all right?

963
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: Just give me a night.

964
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 6: I buy that Luca will be back. And I think

965
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 6: even though it wasn't a signature win, that the Mavericks

966
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 6: looking good with thirty assists on the night, especially Porzingis.

967
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 6: We are amidst the annual Christops Porzingis is looking amazing run.

968
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 6: He had twenty nine and eleven in this one. He's

969
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 6: five of eight on threes. He's averaging twenty eight points

970
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 6: per game. His last three five games back, four of

971
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 6: them he had twenty plus points, and he played some

972
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 6: five in the second half. The MAVs went a little

973
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 6: bit smaller and they're finding their rotations. Powell sat so

974
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 6: Porzingi has played the five more Jalen Brunson and Reggie

975
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 6: Bullock in this game. Now, it's not signature winn because

976
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 6: the Nuggets have so many frickin' injuries, not only Jamal

977
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 6: Murray and Michael Porter Junior, but as Trey talked about yesterday,

978
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 6: Will Barton, a guy who has been so key for them,

979
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 6: did not play in this game. So I'm not sure

980
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 6: how you call any MAVs win this year signature win.

981
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 6: And I mentioned all those guys playing well around Luca,

982
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 6: Luca getting everybody involved with thirty helpers, but I'm sure

983
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 6: they're still looking for a star as the trade deadline approaches,

984
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 6: because I just don't know how much you can you

985
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 6: can ask of Luca to get from this roster.

986
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: But they are winning games. They are nine and four.

987
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 6: Which is astonishing when you think about how badly it

988
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 6: feels that they're playing. They have a negative point differential,

989
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 6: which is odd for a team that's nine and four,

990
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 6: but they're somehow pulling out games because it feels like

991
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 6: again a year and year out. You know, when you

992
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 6: go into the playoffs with the MAVs, if they have

993
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 6: a good matchup, yeah they could win the playoff series.

994
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 6: But if they don't, they're going to be just out

995
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 6: talented in a lot of different spots on the floor.

996
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 2: And that's what's happening.

997
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 6: They somehow win because of Lucas, So if he's out

998
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 6: for a couple of games, then you're probably betting against

999
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 6: him on bet MGM because I don't know how they

1000
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 6: pull it out of their butts.

1001
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lee, did you see the injury there where I

1002
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 3: think it was Austin River sort of crashing into the

1003
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 3: back of Luca's ankle there and he sat down right

1004
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: away on the sideline there was an open seat baseline,

1005
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 3: and then sort of hobbled off very late in this game.

1006
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 4: But what do you think, Well, yeah, I mean, obviously

1007
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 4: we will have to wait to find out. But Luca

1008
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 4: has had a heavy workload, and when you think back

1009
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 4: to the Olympics as well, he didn't get the summer off,

1010
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 4: so he's been doing He's been playing a lot of basketball,

1011
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 4: and you just hope that that doesn't catch up with

1012
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 4: him at some point. But I do want to just

1013
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 4: sort of go a little bit further on what Tas

1014
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 4: said there about porzingis, because it's really been the whole

1015
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 4: month of November. He's been playing some really good basketball,

1016
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 4: shooting fifty forty ninety, getting he's averaging about twenty three points,

1017
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 4: nine rebounds, getting a block, and just showing that what

1018
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 4: his upside is, what his ceiling is, really does change

1019
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 4: the whole outlook, I think for the Mavericks. But the

1020
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 4: big question will be two things. Can he stay on

1021
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 4: the floor now and can he be consistent because that's

1022
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 4: always been kind of what's held him back. He might

1023
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 4: soon miss another five to ten games, or he'll just

1024
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 4: sort of sleep walk through games. Or if he's not scoring,

1025
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 4: he won't do anything else. He had five offensive rebounds

1026
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 4: last night, and I think that's just so big because

1027
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 4: he's such an important factor. You get guys like Tim

1028
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: Hardaway Junior and Dorian Finney Smith. I mean, you know,

1029
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 4: Tim Hardaway yourself, skeetzy, like one of the most feast

1030
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 4: or famine guys in the league. So those guys are

1031
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 4: going to be consistent like that. But Porzingis is the

1032
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 4: one that they need and they hope to be that.

1033
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 4: You know, basically that Scottie, Pip and there to Luca,

1034
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 4: and he's been doing it for the month of November

1035
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 4: and it's been working well for the Maps, So good

1036
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 4: for them. Hold on to it as much as you can,

1037
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 4: because it just feels like in the past history tells

1038
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 4: us that it wonn't lost with Pozingis.

1039
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Unfortunately, you're right when he starts bawling out is

1040
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 3: when he then picks up a weird like back injury

1041
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 3: or leg injury or something like that. Hopefully not for

1042
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 3: MAP stands. Anything to add TK from this win over

1043
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 3: a very shorthanded Nuggets team, like Tas said, missing a

1044
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 3: lot of guys, not much to.

1045
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: Add I think tass is right. It's hard to call

1046
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: this a signature win. It does appear to be the

1047
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 1: mavericks first win against a team that is currently over

1048
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: five hundreds, so I guess their best win of the season.

1049
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: I don't think the Donk's going to be out for

1050
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: too long. It was a weird looking sort of injury,

1051
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: but he walked off and he's a tough guy, gets

1052
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: hurt all the time and comes back anyways. So maybe

1053
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: miss one game, but they got a couple of toughies

1054
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: coming up here. They play the Suns back to back

1055
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: and the Clippers back to back, both on the road,

1056
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: So four games against two teams, all on the roads

1057
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: starting Wednesday. I hope he doesn't miss a lot of

1058
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: time because the Mavericks have gotten a bunch of wins

1059
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: here despite not looking great early in the season, So

1060
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: I we'll see how they actually stack up against some

1061
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: quality competition.

1062
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, kid got creative in last night's game.

1063
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: He went like he went really small in the fourth quarter.

1064
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 3: A bunch of guards and then Dorian Finney Smith as

1065
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 3: their six foot seventh center because we had Porzingis and

1066
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 3: Luke on the bench, and they ripped off a run.

1067
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 3: You had Tim Hardaway hitting a three DFS hitting a

1068
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 3: three bullet hitting the three and suddenly you know they

1069
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 3: were up ten with six minutes left. And it was

1070
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 3: a hell of a Colleau said he have talked about

1071
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 3: like wanting to like get the pace going a little

1072
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: bit against the Nuggets team, and it worked out last night.

1073
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: So signature winn or not. It was a victory. And yeah,

1074
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 3: they have a great record. It is weird tass nine

1075
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 3: and four. I mean what, they're one of the better

1076
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 3: teams in the Western Conference records wise, it's you wouldn't

1077
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 3: think about it with some of the performances from this year.

1078
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 3: Next headline from the Athletic they've ever heard of it?

1079
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 3: King's Luke Walton on the hot seat again? Be given

1080
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: seem leeway as last season. Now Lee this headline, yeah

1081
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 3: was out there before. The King's just destroyed the Pistons

1082
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 3: last night, so they were playing for Luke Walton's life.

1083
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 3: Maybe hey, maybe they lose that game, he's gone, But yeah,

1084
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: what do you think of once again the hot seat

1085
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 3: sort of rumors surrounding Luke Walton. But the difference I

1086
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 3: guess this time is no, we're serious.

1087
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, the Pistons. I guess was just came up

1088
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 4: on the schedule at just the right time. I mean,

1089
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 4: I'll get back into the Walton in a second. But

1090
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 4: what Dwayne Casey just says, right, we only play hard

1091
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 4: against the Raptors and that's it. Who gives a shit

1092
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 4: any more about any other team? Like they get absolutely

1093
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 4: smoked at home by the Sacramento Kings. That's bad for

1094
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 4: the Pistons. But yeah, Luke Walton, I mean this is

1095
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 4: like Christaps Porzingi's about this time every year. It's like,

1096
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 4: well he's in trouble, he's on the hot seat. And

1097
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 4: I think it always still comes back to the fact,

1098
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 4: what is in Walton's corner. He's got two He's got

1099
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 4: this year and next year guaranteed on his contract. And

1100
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 4: this isn't a franchise. It's just like we're paying five

1101
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 4: coaches every year.

1102
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 3: We just are.

1103
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 4: So that might hold, that might keep them going there.

1104
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 4: But with the Kings, you're never too far away from chaos.

1105
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 4: They always have little runs where it's like, oh, maybe

1106
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 4: they're starting to get it together and then they're just

1107
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 4: completely melt down and get blown out by fifty by somebody.

1108
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's no surprise that Walton's on the hot seat.

1109
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 4: I'm not sure he's a great coach. I'm not sure

1110
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 4: he's a right coach for that team. I'm not sure

1111
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 4: that team is the best constructed it can be right now.

1112
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 4: The article goes into a little bit more about the

1113
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 4: sort of weird chemistry issues there with deannro Fox and

1114
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 4: ty Tyre's Halliburton, which seems to be continuing. I think

1115
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 4: they're both good players. I don't think they move off

1116
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 4: one of those guys yet. I think if they are

1117
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 4: to make a move, it's probably more Buddy obviously he's

1118
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 4: continually in talks, and then Harrison Barnes probably more so

1119
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 4: than the other two. But we'll see. It's the Kings,

1120
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 4: you know, it's just going to at some point be

1121
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 4: chaotic and then they'll be okay for a while and

1122
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 4: then the chaos will return. So, yeah, Luke Watton's on

1123
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 4: the hot seat. No surprise yet, right right, not news.

1124
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Kings started five and four tasks before they

1125
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: lost to the Pacers, the Suns, okay, the Spurs, the

1126
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 3: Thunder eh, but they pull out this one. You know,

1127
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 3: they want to break this fifteen year playoff trop because

1128
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 3: I think if they don't make the playoffs, they set

1129
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 3: the all time record. Is that correct? I think they're

1130
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 3: tied with the Clippers in terms of fifteen years straight

1131
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 3: not making it. If they make it sixteen that'll be

1132
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 3: their own, their own record in the record books there

1133
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 3: and not one you want. But I guess, like another

1134
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 3: way to look at this is Luke Walton coaching this

1135
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 3: team at the by the end of this season, or

1136
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 3: you know, Kenny survive because he's got to be paid

1137
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 3: a salary. It's like eleven million dollars likely said, like,

1138
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 3: what do you.

1139
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 2: Think it's all about the playoffs?

1140
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 6: If they're in a playoff run, and legitimately in a

1141
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 6: playoff run, then I think he sticks around. And if

1142
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 6: they're you know, far out of it, then no, he's gone.

1143
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 6: But it really is up to Dearon Fox playing better.

1144
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 6: If Daron Fox will anywhere near his regular self, then

1145
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 6: they're in a playoff hunt and they're playing they're playing well,

1146
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 6: but he is not. I don't know what's going on there.

1147
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's chemistry with Tyrese Haliburn and

1148
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 6: David Mitchell because they have three guards. But he's just

1149
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 6: playing poorly this year. If their best player was anywhere

1150
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 6: near their best player, then they'd be pretty damn solid.

1151
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 6: It's fourteen games in. I don't know what's going on

1152
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 6: with the Fox.

1153
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 3: Well, Luke Walton's lucky we got this play in tournament

1154
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 3: tray because I mean you're sort of in a playing race.

1155
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 3: They're in the playoffs right now.

1156
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, it's looking good. I'm with the dream shake.

1157
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: I just hear an eighties song when I think of

1158
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: Luke on the hot seat, shout out to Steve Winwood

1159
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: back on the hot seed again. I think Luke Walton

1160
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: finishes the season. Sounds crazy. I think they're gonna make

1161
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: the play in tournament. The defense, it's improved. Guys number

1162
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: twenty in the league, up from number thirty right now.

1163
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 1: They're also a top ten offense, number seven in the league.

1164
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: Everything is trending up for the They just need a

1165
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,959
Speaker 1: little bit of motivation, basically coming out and saying, hey,

1166
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: if you lose to the Pistons, your coach gets fired.

1167
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 1: Maybe they need to do that every game. I don't

1168
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: know what it is, but I don't know. You know,

1169
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: it's November sixteenth. I'm putting my flag down. Kings are

1170
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 1: making the play in tournament ten seed, ten seed, baby.

1171
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 3: I mean it's like the teams when you look below them.

1172
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,959
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you brought this up the other day, Tray.

1173
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 3: It's okay. See that are five and eight, you know,

1174
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,439
Speaker 3: which is maybe even surprising. The Wolves are four and nine.

1175
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 3: They got to do something. The Spurs are four and nine.

1176
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 3: I don't think they're all that committed to, you know,

1177
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 3: trying to get into the play in or try and

1178
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 3: make the playoffs. This is a rebuild, got a lot

1179
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 3: of young guys. They want to compete, but they're probably

1180
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 3: okay with losing and then getting a draft pick. And

1181
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 3: then you've got the Rockets and Pelicans that are going

1182
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 3: to be battling for the best chances you know at

1183
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 3: the number Well, they're gonna both be in the mix

1184
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 3: for the best chance at the number one seed. Thanks

1185
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 3: for so yeah. So, I mean, just by like process

1186
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 3: of elimination, here's the Kings are.

1187
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 5: In a.

1188
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 4: That's like the first ever Australian Winter Olympic gold medalist.

1189
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 4: Guy was coming last in the speed skating remember this, Yeah,

1190
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 4: and the other guys all fell over, i mean went

1191
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 4: over the revenge line.

1192
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 6: Like this he was.

1193
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 4: That's like the Kings. It's like, we're way better than

1194
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 4: all those other teams because they're so bad.

1195
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 7: That guy was on Australian Survivor. Yeah I can't remember

1196
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 7: his name. Yeah, but he was part of the Champion's crew.

1197
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 7: They had the Champions and then the wannabe Champions.

1198
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 3: Did he end up winning Survivor because everyone just like

1199
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: passed out?

1200
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 7: I mean, you'd think he's tailor made for it, because

1201
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 7: that literally is Survivor just outlasting everybody on the rink.

1202
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 7: I didn't get that far yet, but anyway, cool story bro.

1203
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 4: I think Stephen Bradbury I think was his name.

1204
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 3: I okay, there you go.

1205
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 1: Guys, got one first name, Steven brad Barry.

1206
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 3: Cool. One thing, one little note tasked from this game

1207
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 3: King's Pistons game, which was over in a hurry because

1208
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:11,959
Speaker 3: Sacramento was up huge. Was Marvin Bagley get a little

1209
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 3: burn there for the Kings. He played about eighteen minutes,

1210
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 3: got his shots up, took nine attempts three to nine though,

1211
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 3: and he was a positive overall in this game where

1212
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 3: they killed Detroit. But I bring him up because he

1213
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 3: hadn't been playing and there was this weird thing going

1214
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 3: on with it with his agent and we already know

1215
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 3: what his father talking about the organization. There's been rumors

1216
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 3: that the Pistons could be a team that would take

1217
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 3: a flyer, I guess on Marvin Bagley the third. So

1218
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 3: do you think that's something they should consider and what

1219
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 3: would it take to maybe get it done or are

1220
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 3: you like, no, thanks?

1221
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: Well, at least he played. There was, you know, from

1222
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 2: the King's side.

1223
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 6: There was that report and a video clip going around

1224
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 6: of Marvin Bagley being asked to enter a game earlier

1225
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 6: this season and Bagley just waved it off, no thank you,

1226
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 6: I would not like to play right now. And so yeah,

1227
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 6: a huge back between the agent and the organization. At

1228
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 6: least he got on the floor. I guess that's a

1229
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 6: good sign for the Pistons. A bad sign though, that

1230
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 6: they're willing to take chances on everybody's other players. That

1231
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 6: just seems like, well, that's all the Pistons do. Unfortunately,

1232
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 6: they hit some gold with Jeremy Grant, but then they

1233
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 6: do things like Dennis Smith Junior and Josh Jackson and

1234
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 6: even a plumb league you know, just they why why

1235
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 6: why would the Pistons do that? Unfortunately, they need to

1236
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 6: develop their own guys, I guess is what I'm getting at.

1237
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 6: Just try and try and get the guys going that

1238
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 6: they drafted rather than do this again. I know a

1239
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 6: lot of the guys they drafted aren't playing all that well,

1240
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 6: but I don't think so. Even though you know, I

1241
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 6: like Marvin came on our show or the I Patch.

1242
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 6: I hope he succeeds somewhere, but I'm not sure if

1243
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 6: it would be with the Pistons.

1244
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 3: Just doesn't if it lost me nothing, I would absolutely

1245
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 3: do it. If on the Detroit Pistons, if it's like

1246
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 3: a second round pick, and.

1247
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 4: I don't know, or something Rockets did with Kevin Porter

1248
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 4: really wasn't that I baically said, all right, we'll take him.

1249
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I just don't think you have anything.

1250
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 3: I like, if you have nothing to lose, then yeah,

1251
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe you get something from Bagley. I mean,

1252
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 3: the guy was the guy scored in the league. Now

1253
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 3: he sucks on defense, and he's and he you know,

1254
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 3: he's not a great, you know, backbone of a defense

1255
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 3: as a big guy. For sure, he needs to work

1256
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 3: on that. But he is a score like a fourteen

1257
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 3: to fifteen point per game score in his couple of seasons.

1258
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 3: I just think, if if it costs you nothing, Freddy

1259
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 3: Troy Lee, I would take a flyer. I mean, they

1260
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 3: did it with Josh Jackson, like you said, task, he

1261
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 3: hasn't actually been that bad for them. He's not. He's

1262
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 3: they play them. He's in the rotation, which I know

1263
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 3: they don't want, but you do have to play some

1264
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 3: guys that know how to play. So I would if

1265
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 3: it was cheaply.

1266
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 4: I don't know I would for sure, because yeah, I

1267
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 4: mean I don't think obviously the Kings are going to

1268
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:47,919
Speaker 4: keep him. He doesn't want to sign there, So yeah,

1269
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 4: you just throw I don't know, a second round pick

1270
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 4: and a and a expiring contract and see if the

1271
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 4: Kings just bite on that, because I don't really think

1272
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 4: they're going to get much in return anyway. Sacramento, everyone

1273
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 4: knows the situation, so yeah, yeah you might as well.

1274
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 4: And if you Detroit, you're not a free agent destination.

1275
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 4: You say, you have to try to unlock someone like

1276
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 4: that who absolutely has the potential, But we just haven't

1277
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 4: seen it in Sacramento.

1278
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 3: People are saying it's not a coincidence he plays against

1279
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 3: the Detroit Pistons last night to say, Hey.

1280
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: This guy showcase game and personally, I'm salivating at the

1281
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: idea of a beef stew and bag of beans front

1282
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: court there for the Detroit Pistons. Sounds nice. I would

1283
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: take a chance on him too, still only twenty two

1284
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: years old. If you're giving up nothing, maybe the beans

1285
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: are nice. Running with some young players who handle the ball, It's.

1286
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 3: Possible, all right. Final headline here, this is a weird

1287
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 3: one from ESPN. Ever heard of it? The Minnesota Timberwolves

1288
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 3: find two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a quarter of

1289
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 3: a million for player activities in Miami area this past September. Again,

1290
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 3: strange headline. Trade Is this news? And can you explain

1291
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 3: it to me?

1292
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: I'll say this is news only because of where it

1293
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: happened and how the Timberwolves got caught. From the ESPN report,

1294
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: the team had a dinner and workouts at the home

1295
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: of new minority owner Alex Rodriguez ever heard of him

1296
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: in the Miami area in September ahead of training camp.

1297
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: Posts on social media showed at the time so pretty

1298
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 1: weird stuff that basically the Timberwolves went over to Alex

1299
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: Rodriguez's house, had a hangout, had some workouts, and that's

1300
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: not allowed because he is technically an owner of the

1301
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: team right now, just seems very strange, like could the

1302
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: Timberwolves have gotten away with this if they just didn't

1303
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: put it on the gram. It's not like the practice

1304
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: has done them any good. Thousand dollars for this practice,

1305
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: which is fine because a rod made four hundred and

1306
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: forty one million dollars during his playing career. I assume

1307
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: he'll pick up the tab on this one, as you

1308
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: probably did for the dinner as well. But this is

1309
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: this is very weird.

1310
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's weirdly that from what I can tell,

1311
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 3: players can do this on their own, right, like Lebron

1312
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,439
Speaker 3: call the Vets together and say, come on over, let's

1313
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 3: kick it, let's work on our games together. But if

1314
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 3: it's a team sort of led thing activity where they're

1315
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 3: footing the bill and maybe flying them in or whatever,

1316
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, then that's against It's against the rules,

1317
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 3: and it's a pretty obvious breaking of them.

1318
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, if there was a player who maybe

1319
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 4: was a free agent in there, I can understand it.

1320
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 4: But it's your own team and your own players like

1321
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 4: you're tampering with your own players, aren't you? That is

1322
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 4: that right? I mean like like I don't really see.

1323
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 4: Like the new owner, he's obviously Bay Story. You know,

1324
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 4: he's got a property down there in Miami. He just says, hey,

1325
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 4: let's go and work out in Miami instead of Minnesota,

1326
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 4: and that costs him quarter of a meal. Weird, very

1327
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 4: weird stuff.

1328
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, task anything to add to this very strange headline.

1329
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 6: Well, you know that Alex Rodriguez and Mark Louri, they're

1330
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,479
Speaker 6: not technically the owner's quite yet.

1331
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 2: It's you know, a process that's happening.

1332
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 6: So hopefully this doesn't dissuade him from buying the team.

1333
01:00:58,800 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1334
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 6: I mean two hundred yeah, dropping the bucket as as

1335
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 6: Trey said. But Alex Rodriguez, I guess he's broken some

1336
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 6: rules in the days, A rule breaker. I'm sure this

1337
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 6: is nothing. It's nothing for him.

1338
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 3: Well, what did he do? I don't know this guy

1339
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 3: do breaking the rules? He said he was a rule breaker.

1340
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 2: He kissed, I think he kissed. He licks some glass once.

1341
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 3: Oh was he on steroids?

1342
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1343
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 3: There you go.

1344
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 2: Everybody knows that.

1345
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 3: Everybody knows that everybody was on them. I was on

1346
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 3: steroids there for a couple of years. A huge temper. Boy, Yeah,

1347
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 3: exactly before we take our final break and get to

1348
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 3: a very fun Leellis tweeted the night. Uh, if you

1349
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 3: enjoyed the master class Metallica ad read, you're gonna love

1350
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 3: Lee's tweeted the night. I did call on Twitter for

1351
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 3: people to send in players that they think have disappointed

1352
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 3: them this year so far. A lot of votes tasked

1353
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 3: you brought up Fox. He was getting a lot of

1354
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 3: replies to me on that tweet. Same with Jason Tatum.

1355
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 3: You know there are people who are saying porzingis as well.

1356
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 3: But if you have them, let us know on the

1357
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 3: stream team, let us know in the YouTube comments, because

1358
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 3: I think tomorrow I'm gonna try and do like maybe

1359
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 3: a top ten list of players that have just disappointed

1360
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 3: us so far this year. And I'm telling you right now,

1361
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna like avoid you know, Ben Simmons not playing

1362
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 3: and Kyrie Irving not getting vaccinated to play, and like, yeah,

1363
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 3: that's disappointing. You know, John Wall what the Rockets are

1364
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 3: doing with him, But like guys that are actually out

1365
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 3: there that are really struggling to hit a shot or

1366
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 3: to contribute, and I'll do like superstars and probably guys

1367
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 3: that maybe we thought might take a jump that are

1368
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 3: in their second or third year that are still struggling.

1369
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 3: So if you have some suggestions, holler at me on

1370
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 3: Twitter at j Skeetzer. Again, let us know when the

1371
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 3: stream team or in the YouTube comments below disappointing players.

1372
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 3: We'll get that tomorrow. All right, let's take one more

1373
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 3: break and we'll get to tweet o the night. Okay,

1374
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 3: this is gonna be fun. Let's get to tweet o

1375
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 3: the night.

1376
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 2: Tweet out the night.

1377
01:02:55,640 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 3: Wow, Lily, where are your go man?

1378
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, I have to give you the credit for

1379
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 4: this one, skeezee, because you did throw this into slack

1380
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 4: last night. It's not technically one specific person's tweet, but

1381
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,439
Speaker 4: it was a tweet that was going around, so it's

1382
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 4: just a text of the night really, so it's text

1383
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 4: of the day anyway.

1384
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 3: Here it is.

1385
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 4: JD's got it there, and it's basically just listening off

1386
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 4: your best concert experiences all worse and so look, you

1387
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 4: know I love this sort of stuff, So I'll go

1388
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 4: first here. Okay, I think you're going to be the

1389
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 4: only one to go. I think J jd okay. First

1390
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 4: concert for me was you two at the MCG in

1391
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 4: Melbourne in nineteen ninety three. Seventy plus thousand dudes and

1392
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 4: dudets were there, great, great front.

1393
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, he's just dressed exactly like me.

1394
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 4: Exactly.

1395
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:55,959
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1396
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 4: I think Pearl Jam even open for them to that night,

1397
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 4: So it was that's.

1398
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 3: A crazy first concert.

1399
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1400
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 4: Last concert I went to was Elanas Morrissette only a

1401
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 4: couple of months ago the Amphitheater here in Alpharetta. She

1402
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 4: put on a great show and Garbage also played that.

1403
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 4: Garbage still a thing, still going round.

1404
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: I always thought there were trash.

1405
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 3: Had tickets to that show, but he refused when he.

1406
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 4: Found best concert, best concert I've ever been to. You

1407
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 4: guys probably know the answer. Anyone wanted to take a

1408
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 4: guess here.

1409
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 3: I mean it's Williams.

1410
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, Robbie Williams at Network two thousand and three. Actually

1411
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 4: it's a tie, Fat Boys Slim at Brighton Beach. Talking

1412
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 4: about that the other week reminded me that was awesome.

1413
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 4: That was bigger than Robbie Williams. I forgot that had

1414
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 4: just how big it was. It was like not a

1415
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 4: scheduled one to be that big, but it was awesome.

1416
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 3: Are you including the fat Boy slim one because you

1417
01:04:55,480 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 3: also put on a conswer concert. Remember what did you say?

1418
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 3: What were you singing?

1419
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: Again?

1420
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 3: People stopped and we were.

1421
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 4: Like, well I was singing more than words by extreme,

1422
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 4: oh yes.

1423
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 3: Yes, And all the people messed up on drugs were

1424
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 3: like whoa.

1425
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like.

1426
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 1: Best concert guy outside of Fat Boy Slip Extremes, more

1427
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: than just the first thirty seconds.

1428
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 4: Worst concert I've ever been to. Well, this one's also

1429
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 4: a tie. I'm going unfortunately with the Cure at Air

1430
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 4: Canada Center, I've talked about it. They just didn't bring

1431
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 4: the energy for the fans. They played. Their music was fine.

1432
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 4: I love their songs, but it was just like we're

1433
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 4: just here because we have to be here and we're

1434
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 4: going to play our music. But also Guns and Roses.

1435
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 4: Also the Canada Center it was Guns and Roses. It

1436
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 4: was Axle and band. He turned up late and then

1437
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 4: he kind of insulted the crowd by just saying, yeah,

1438
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 4: I'm late, but who gives a ship And then it

1439
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 4: was like he got out of the block slow and

1440
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 4: I left. I left after like three songs, like this

1441
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 4: is not right I mean yeah, with no slash as well.

1442
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 4: It's like it's not really the same anyway. So disappointed

1443
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 4: there with how.

1444
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 3: Much it feels like you at a concert you love

1445
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 3: the artist talking to you, you more than anyone. Is

1446
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 3: really like live and die by a concert, back and

1447
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 3: forth between the band and the I should say the

1448
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 3: artist and the crowd.

1449
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you don't need to do hardly anything to

1450
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 4: get the crowd on your side. Like bon Jovi one

1451
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 4: time in Toronto was in Montreal the night before and

1452
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 4: he kind of took a took a dig at the

1453
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 4: Montreal Canadians. He's like, we were in Montreal last night,

1454
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 4: great city, but not as good as a leafy, and

1455
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 4: the crowd went crazy. I mean, that's all you have

1456
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 4: to do is just like, you know, pissing their pockets

1457
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 4: a little bit, and the crowd's on your side for

1458
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 4: the rest of their night. Loudest loudest one, Really, that

1459
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 4: one's the toughest one to answer, because I don't remember

1460
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,439
Speaker 4: one that I was like, oh wow, this is fu loud.

1461
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 4: They're all kind of loud, you know, I don't know,

1462
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 4: I couldn't, I couldn't come up with it, come up

1463
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 4: with one. Got an answer for that. One that really

1464
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 4: stood out to me most surprising, So this was The Darkness,

1465
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 4: who opened for Robbie Williams at Network in two thousand

1466
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 4: and three. Now most surprising because they were incredible from

1467
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 4: the start. Growing on me was their first song. I

1468
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 4: still remember the first like like riff just and like

1469
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 4: everyone's like, oh, that's not too bad, and they were huge.

1470
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 3: I hope they piss. This just sucks.

1471
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 4: It was a really good performance from the Darkness. The

1472
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 4: bands I've seen the most, I've got that as a tie.

1473
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 4: I've got You Two four times Melbourne, London, Buffalo, and Madrid,

1474
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 4: and then bon Jovi London. Yeah, well I tried to

1475
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 4: see I tried to see You two at the Air

1476
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 4: Canada Center in May of the all that you Can't

1477
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 4: Leave behind. No, it was elevation to couldn't get a ticket.

1478
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 4: They went all around America. They came back and Buffalo

1479
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 4: was the closest and I got a ticket to Buffalo,

1480
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 4: so oh yeah, it was fine. Bon Jovi, I've seen

1481
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 4: them in London, Atlanta, Weiss and Toronto, so four times

1482
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,600
Speaker 4: each for those. Yeah, next concert, I have tickets for

1483
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 4: Elton John in Atlanta in September next year. I know

1484
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 4: this is the fourth time he said his final, his

1485
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 4: final tour. So I'm gonna I'm gonna wear the shirt

1486
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,839
Speaker 4: that I bought like three years ago for the Goodbye Yellow.

1487
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 3: Brick Road tour because he's coming back again. You know,

1488
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 3: we start, we had to take that and apply it

1489
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:44,799
Speaker 3: to our show. Like every podcast, last post, the last one, guys,

1490
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 3: come on back tomorrow.

1491
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: I mean literally every time you give an Elton John

1492
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: concert report, I'm like, oh, man, that was his last

1493
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 1: tour to see Elton John. But I guess he's gone

1494
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: for good now until the next year. Please go on again.

1495
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 4: I know I'm sort of thinking, like, you'll probably be

1496
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 4: back after that as well. But I am actually taking

1497
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 4: my two boys to their first Concert's going to be

1498
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 4: Elton John's last concert. So yeah, I mean, last year,

1499
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 4: there'll be ten and six, and they love Elton John,

1500
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 4: and I thought, you know what, this might be one

1501
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 4: of those memories that they're going to have forever one

1502
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 4: way or the other. First concert Elton John. Hopefully they

1503
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 4: enjoy it.

1504
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 3: Oh, it'd be great, Like you know, forty years from now,

1505
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 3: they'll be on a podcast tweet, will be back around

1506
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 3: and they'll be seeing Elton John, my old man. Now

1507
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 3: I thought it was Elton John's last show.

1508
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, ye'll.

1509
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 1: Actually my next concert is going to see the last

1510
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:40,719
Speaker 1: Elton John again.

1511
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,759
Speaker 4: And the wished I could have seen. I'm going very

1512
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 4: specific on this one and going to Live eight nineteen

1513
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 4: eighty five at Wembley, mainly because, of course the incredible

1514
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 4: show that Queen put on. I think it was only

1515
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 4: seventeen minutes, but some of the most important seventeen minutes

1516
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 4: in musical and world history. Freddie Murkhy just like I

1517
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 4: mean world world history, like in terms of like a

1518
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 4: guy who was born to be on the biggest stage

1519
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 4: in the world and just like had the crowd eating

1520
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 4: out of his hand. Freddie Mercury put on just the

1521
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 4: most amazing show. Elton also played there by the Way too,

1522
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 4: But for me, Michael Jackson probably would be the overall

1523
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 4: answer here to see him live. But if I could

1524
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 4: choose one particular moment would be Live Aid nine to

1525
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 4: eighty five there at I think we were actually in

1526
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 4: England too at the time, visiting my grandma, but yeah,

1527
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 4: I was only nine years old. I don't think mom

1528
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 4: and Dad were prepared to take me to like ninety

1529
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 4: five thousand at Wembley. But yeah, great stuff.

1530
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 7: If if only they had recorded it or I don't know,

1531
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 7: televised it or something, you could have enjoyed the car.

1532
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've seen oh well oh wow.

1533
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 4: I mean we probably did have it on during the day,

1534
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 4: but yeah, there was I don't think Grant had a

1535
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 4: VCR and we obviously I didn't know. I just didn't

1536
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 4: know the impact it was going to have at the time,

1537
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 4: certainly not Freddie and Queen. But yeah, that's that's one

1538
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 4: of those ones that I can watch back on YouTube

1539
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 4: just over and over again because when he gets to

1540
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 4: the end there and he does we will rock you,

1541
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 4: we are the Champions, like, it's incredible stuff. And when

1542
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 4: he just does the AO the tray ao to the

1543
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 4: crowd there, Ah my god, what an incredible moment. So

1544
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 4: that's that's for me.

1545
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 3: There it is, So you went through them all here, Yeah,

1546
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 3: first concert, last concert, best, worst, loudest, most surprising, see

1547
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 3: the most next concert and wish I could have been

1548
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 3: g D I did want to hear. I don't know

1549
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 3: if you have an answer for the wish you could

1550
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 3: have seen live like a concert you wish you could

1551
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 3: have attended do you have.

1552
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 7: Well to actually Lee just mentioning Alanis. I wanted to

1553
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:48,759
Speaker 7: go to that show, but I couldn't for some reason.

1554
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 7: So I'd love to see Alanis Morissea. She's one of

1555
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 7: my favorites. But you know, I think the one that

1556
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 7: I would really really have loved to have seen is

1557
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 7: the Sex Pistols back in the seventies, you know, sure, yeah,

1558
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 7: I was just way too young. And they think they

1559
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 7: did play Toronto at one point, but that would have

1560
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:12,719
Speaker 7: been awesome. But yeah, and the Beatles, you know, of course, yeah.

1561
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't they There's like a Peter Jackson. I don't

1562
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 3: know if it's what is it like a two night,

1563
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 3: three night event, you know what I'm talking about.

1564
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've only seen a couple of little trailers here

1565
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 1: and there, but yeah, I'll partake in that as well.

1566
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 1: I think it's a documentary about the making of Get Back.

1567
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's yeah, I think that's right. I

1568
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 3: think it's like a couple episodes or something like that.

1569
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 3: How long that particuli to put together? That list? Not long?

1570
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 3: Not long?

1571
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 4: Really, I mean, you know the answers popped into that.

1572
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 4: It was a great tweet when well, when you sent

1573
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 4: it through last night, I was like, oh right, good stuff,

1574
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 4: well done.

1575
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 3: I did enjoy that. You were like, who was the

1576
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 3: first person to tweet this? Well, I don't know, man,

1577
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,679
Speaker 3: it's like going around Twitter, there's like a million people responding.

1578
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,759
Speaker 3: I did look. I couldn't find who the first person

1579
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,759
Speaker 3: to send send this around.

1580
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 4: I looked as well, but it just was basically was

1581
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 4: like one one link after the other after the other

1582
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 4: after right, all right, we don't have to credit someone

1583
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 4: for this.

1584
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 7: I'n just also say, you know, we've had this conversation before,

1585
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 7: but you're one hundred percent wrong on the cure, and

1586
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 7: the cure was my first.

1587
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 4: So I don't know how you can say I'm one

1588
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 4: hundred percent wrong for an experience that I had that

1589
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,839
Speaker 4: you weren't there for. They were bad, the music was great, exactly.

1590
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: It's a concept.

1591
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know what you're talking about.

1592
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 4: There's way more to a concert than just getting up

1593
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 4: there and playing your songs. There's crowd interaction, there's making

1594
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 4: the crowd feel like you were there and you care

1595
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 4: about them. You can't tell me to see kiss.

1596
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 2: Have you seen kiss?

1597
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 4: I have seen kids masters and what.

1598
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 7: You're talking about exactly. It's like what you were in

1599
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 7: Montreal last night. It wasn't even hockey related. It's just

1600
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 7: like you think Montreal knows how to rock.

1601
01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 3: Yes, Kiss put on an incredible sh Yes.

1602
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 4: But you go to a concert and you're in the mood, right,

1603
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 4: You're seduced by the band. They're putting on a great show.

1604
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,640
Speaker 4: You want them to tell you, hey, we love you

1605
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 4: as much as you love us. We don't want because

1606
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 4: it's a part of the performance. It's a part of

1607
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 4: the entertainment.

1608
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 7: But that's the thing about the Carrot. That's part of

1609
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 7: the performance. They're too cool to be there, and so

1610
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 7: are you, and you want them to be too cool

1611
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 7: to be there.

1612
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 4: No, they're not too cool to be there. They're just like,

1613
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 4: oh fuck, I can't believe we have to do another

1614
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 4: one of them.

1615
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 3: That's great.

1616
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 4: That to me is like, I'm like, that's the point.

1617
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm the easiest sell. I'm the easiest sale

1618
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 4: at a concert. I have a beer or two, I'm

1619
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 4: buying a forty five dollars piece of shit T shirt

1620
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 4: that's been the cost of twenty cents to make.

1621
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 3: I don't care.

1622
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 4: I'm into it.

1623
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,759
Speaker 3: I just want to be tall great.

1624
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 4: You are not how great I I want them to

1625
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 4: just say, oh, we love being here, man, we want

1626
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 4: to be a part of this. You are so glad

1627
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 4: you're here. Instead, it's just like, yeah, yeah, Friday, I'm

1628
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 4: in love.

1629
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 3: Here you go, there, you go. Hey, you should take

1630
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 3: your own advice. I've done enough live shows with you.

1631
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 3: Have never once heard you tell the audience thank you.

1632
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: Chicago All Star Weekend.

1633
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,759
Speaker 3: It's just the greatest night of my life. It's honor

1634
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 3: to be here talking with my friends. You've never done that,

1635
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 3: never once. People are leaving our shows going, well, fuck,

1636
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 3: they were really funny. They knew the basketball.

1637
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 4: People couldn't get enough of ail show in Chicago.

1638
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 5: That was.

1639
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 2: You were too cool man, You're too cool. I love

1640
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 2: that about you.

1641
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 7: If we could go this year, we'll actually be able

1642
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 7: to say hello Cleveland.

1643
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 1: Charlotte doesn't know how to podcast.

1644
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 5: We were in Chicago years ago.

1645
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 4: This, Yeah, it's it's a part of it, man, It's

1646
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 4: a part of the magic for sure.

1647
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:02,959
Speaker 3: Okay pick them. Results brought to you by Bett NGM.

1648
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 3: It was Doubles versus Dutta Lakers. Lakers were favored by

1649
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 3: one and a half and the guy Hammer as we

1650
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 3: talked about and start this show. Nice victory there for

1651
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 3: Tasks and Trey backing the Bulls. No surprise but Trey

1652
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 3: of course, and that win ties them with me for

1653
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 3: last place for five and six. Lee also had the

1654
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 3: Lakers with me, So we got it wrong. Lee six

1655
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 3: and five and Tasks is up front two games clear

1656
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 3: of Lee at eight and three. Three games on tonight Task,

1657
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 3: what's our pick them?

1658
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 2: Well, there's no choice.

1659
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 6: We gotta go with Kevin Durant versus Steph Curry Nets Warriors.

1660
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 6: The Nets are at home and are favored by two

1661
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 6: and a half, surprisingly for the Golden State Warriors. I

1662
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 6: guess because it doesn't it feel like the Nets are

1663
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 6: ten and four. The Warriors definitely feel like they're eleven

1664
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 6: and two, but one versus two in scoring, Kevin Durant

1665
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 6: number one, Steph number two, but one team playing.

1666
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 1: A lot better.

1667
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 2: It feels like in the Golden State Warriors.

1668
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,600
Speaker 6: So I assume that's why three of us took the

1669
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 6: Golden State wars heats out on an island, taking the

1670
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 6: home team in the nets while you're taking the nets.

1671
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I think we're not talking about

1672
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 3: Katie and the Nets enough if I mean honest, Ann Harden,

1673
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 3: who's like now suddenly turned it around. I was shocked

1674
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 3: when when you guys, I think I made my pick first,

1675
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 3: maybe this morning. I was like, yeah, okay, I'll take

1676
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 3: the Nets. That's a small line. You know, they're at home.

1677
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 3: Whatever it's on TNTs, should be a great game. And

1678
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:26,759
Speaker 3: then everybody else took the Warriors, and then I started

1679
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:30,600
Speaker 3: to panic. I was like, is Kevin Durant playing, Like,

1680
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 3: do you guys know something that I don't know? Because

1681
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 3: I know you had a bit of a he's not

1682
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 3: a shoulder injury right.

1683
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 2: Or he is not on the injury report. No Joe

1684
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 2: Joe Harris sitting out for the Nets.

1685
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 6: But otherwise okay, yeah, Warriors, Yeah, I mean obviously, Yeah,

1686
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 6: the Nets are an unheralded ten and four right now.

1687
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 3: It is.

1688
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are up there.

1689
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 6: They've got as good a record as the Chicago Bulls,

1690
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 6: but there's been a lot more words spoken about the

1691
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 6: Chicago Bulls.

1692
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, those Nets are just I'm in a lot doing that.

1693
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,719
Speaker 4: They got a bit of a scare on front against

1694
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,759
Speaker 4: the old Pelicans there. They pulled it out, but maybe

1695
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 4: it was the.

1696
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 3: Pea we just saw that happened last night.

1697
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this game, you could easily make a case

1698
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 4: of the team could go either way.

1699
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 3: No, I mean, don't back me. It's not been great

1700
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 3: world sketzy here. So I'm sure the Warriors went one,

1701
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 3: but I have the Nets winning by three or more points.

1702
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 3: I do need to cover there. Let's not forget that.

1703
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's the first game on TNT, followed by

1704
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 3: the Sixers Jazz and there's also some Spurs Clippers action.

1705
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 3: We'll be back tomorrow to break it all down. Guys,

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Speaker 3: go get your No Dunk's gear ever over at No

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Speaker 3: Thanks everybody for joining us in the stream team. That's

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Speaker 3: our final show. Like, what a way to go out.

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Speaker 6: What it ended?

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Speaker 1: Best show of all time?

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Speaker 4: Last show you'll an, Well, we're into I didn't know

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Speaker 4: I had to rock like the stream team is due.

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Speaker 4: That's great.

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Speaker 3: The No Dunks stream teamers the rock more than the

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Speaker 3: No Buffs or the No Drinks stream teams. There is

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Speaker 3: no doubt. Go get yourself in an athletic subscription. Go

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Speaker 3: to the Athletic dot Com, slash no Dunks and uh

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Speaker 3: yeah again. We'll be back tomorrow to talk about all

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Speaker 3: the NBA games and storylines ten am Eastern Live here

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Speaker 3: on YouTube till then, Clipper Rose.

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Speaker 1: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 1: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 6: And uh, I just wanted to tell you about an

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Speaker 6: email I just got from Paul Flannery. Subject is runners.

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Speaker 2: I know j E. Skeets.

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Speaker 6: I can't wait to read about Jay Skeets. He's a

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Speaker 6: runner that Paul knows. All right, this is cool.

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Speaker 3: Damn Paul Flannery, he works quick. I just talked to

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Speaker 3: him yesterday blabbing away. Oh and let's afford that to

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Speaker 3: everybody on the stream team. If you want to know, leave.

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Speaker 1: Your email addressed down below in the comments.

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Speaker 3: You can get on Flannery's running newsletter. It is fantastic.

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Speaker 3: You should all right, We'll see you guys tomorrow. Race

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Speaker 3: to day people, you could stay boom every day.

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Speaker 2: And dad be happy every minute.

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Speaker 1: It's been so long that you're the fun of waiting for.

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Speaker 2: It's happened already.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be grevy