WEBVTT - The Future of the DC Universe

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<v Speaker 1>Worrying. Today's episode Canade spoilers for The Batman, Matt Reeves,

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<v Speaker 1>The Batman and the Penguin series on HBO and X

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<v Speaker 1>so be slightly warned me for one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Jason Concepcion and I'm risday Night and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to Extra Vision of the podcast, when we

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<v Speaker 2>In today's episode, in the previously on we will be

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<v Speaker 2>touching on the Other Cinematic Universe. The House of Ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>Marvel Studios released new trailers for three upcoming projects at

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<v Speaker 2>its first ever D twenty three Brazil, which is huge.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally, Disney and marm are recognizing what DC has

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<v Speaker 2>been recognizing for a while that Brazil has one of,

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<v Speaker 2>if not the most fervent comic book movie fan culture

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<v Speaker 2>in the world. Whoo in the airlock, we are going

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<v Speaker 2>to look at the future of the DC Cinematic Universe

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<v Speaker 2>post The Joker, post the Penguin, looking at what's been confirmed,

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<v Speaker 2>who has been cost what do we want to see

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<v Speaker 2>as we head into twenty twenty five, when we will

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<v Speaker 2>get that true start of the James Gun ofverse.

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<v Speaker 1>But first, previously on lots of stuff coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>D twenty three Brazil, you mentioned it D twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>their very first D twenty three Brazil as Operation Offset China.

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<v Speaker 1>The loss of the China market continues apace. First up

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<v Speaker 1>season three trailer for What If. I was tremendously excited

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<v Speaker 1>by this wonderful moments Avengers Voltron kind of thing. We

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<v Speaker 1>saw Storm as the Goddess of thunder with big news

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<v Speaker 1>that a storm will be voiced by the same actor

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<v Speaker 1>that voices her in X Men ninety seven. Alison Seely Smith, Yes, great,

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<v Speaker 1>this looked very exciting to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is really cool. Also very interesting to me

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<v Speaker 2>because I think something that we've often wondered about is like,

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<v Speaker 2>when will they start taking from the comics when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to What If? Rather than melding stuff from the

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<v Speaker 2>movies and using it mostly as an mcuvehicle. But the

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<v Speaker 2>Storm Godess of Thunder stuff is clearly directly taking from

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<v Speaker 2>like X Men Giant Size Annual nine, which was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the storm Goddess of Thunder, which I think for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people was also one of the stories that

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<v Speaker 2>they remember best from the classic X Men stuff, so

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's very cool. I love that they got

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<v Speaker 2>Alison Seely Smith. The X Men ninety two now X

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<v Speaker 2>Men ninety seven cast have been such a huge proponent

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<v Speaker 2>of that still having the fandom it does, so they

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<v Speaker 2>should be casting them. We have Oscar isaacaus Moonnight seemingly

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<v Speaker 2>as shang Chi, Hailey Seinfeld as Kate Bishop Darcy Seth

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<v Speaker 2>Green has Howard the Dark Law. I wonder if they're

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<v Speaker 2>still married. But I think that that's a huge deal

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<v Speaker 2>because it's doing what they were promising at DC that

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<v Speaker 2>Marvel's already been doing, crossing over those voices to the

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<v Speaker 2>animated shows, showing that this is an important part of

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<v Speaker 2>the future of the MCU. Also, we are getting members

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<v Speaker 2>of the Eternals. We are getting Door marmu Agatha Kaori,

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<v Speaker 2>the indigenous character that was created that currently has her

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<v Speaker 2>own mini series, which is really exciting. Also, there's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be another original character addition to Kaori like they did

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<v Speaker 2>in the last season. It's going to release on December

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<v Speaker 2>twenty second, with eight episodes releasing daily, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>will be fun for Christmas. This looks like a big

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<v Speaker 2>step up from season two to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. I was disappointed in season two.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people were, Yeah, there were

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<v Speaker 2>cool moments. Especially, I think that was a tough one

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<v Speaker 2>because as comic fans, we were looking at like when

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<v Speaker 2>they were doing Marvel sixteen oh four, We're like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, is this going to be kind of adapting

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<v Speaker 2>that really incredible run, and it was a different take

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<v Speaker 2>on it, and it didn't necessarily feel like it had

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<v Speaker 2>the cohesion of season one, which really still I think

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<v Speaker 2>has some standout moments from the MCU, like Evil Strange

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<v Speaker 2>kind of killing all those different universes and going through

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<v Speaker 2>all the different weird hearts that he had to eat

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<v Speaker 2>of different creatures. My nephew still talks about that episode

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. So I like when they are standalone stories

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<v Speaker 2>that anyone can watch, but I think that they have

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<v Speaker 2>more impact when they can cohesively put a through line

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<v Speaker 2>that is going to connect them. Also, I like them

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<v Speaker 2>recognizing that Storm is a goddess, that is who she

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<v Speaker 2>should be. I also like the recognition that, as we

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<v Speaker 2>have talked about a lot, Storm is really your premiere

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<v Speaker 2>X man right now, and if you're going to launch

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<v Speaker 2>an X Men universe and the MCUs and the Avengers.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's make Storm the focus. So yeah, I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is exciting. I hope it's a return to form and

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully it will give us some seeds of what is

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<v Speaker 2>to come. And hopefully this time they will actually commit

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<v Speaker 2>to the ideas introduced, because I think something that didn't

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily work about even the first season, they promised a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff that seemed like it would easily connect

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<v Speaker 2>to Multiverse of Madness, and then they reeled it back

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<v Speaker 2>and we're like, well, it could be that, but it's different.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we need a full cohesion between the animated

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and the MCU in the case of.

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<v Speaker 1>WIF completely a great next we got a new Captain

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<v Speaker 1>America Brave New World trailer with a lot of built

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<v Speaker 1>out action scenes. We see a lot of easter eggs

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<v Speaker 1>of things that we've been expecting, including tie in from

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the Eternals movie, and if you've wondered,

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<v Speaker 1>like what happened to that celestial we see it in

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<v Speaker 1>the background of a bunch of shots from this, and

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<v Speaker 1>we see a lot more Red Hulk stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>We get our first look at his face. He's looking

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<v Speaker 2>very angry. We see them recreate some moments like cover

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<v Speaker 2>moments with Red Hulk punching the fist on the shield

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<v Speaker 2>moment and stuff like that. One thing I really liked

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<v Speaker 2>about this trailer. I know this is going to sound

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<v Speaker 2>so small, but JA and I know you will get this.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's very smart to do a different typeface.

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<v Speaker 2>I makes it feel like a totally different tone.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree they use this kind of how would I

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<v Speaker 3>describe it, like sam seraph like blasted out where it

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<v Speaker 3>looks It looks like the type of lettering that you

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<v Speaker 3>would see before, like an educational film at school.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, And I think that was really cool. I completely

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>That it's a totally different tone. Another thing I like,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm not gonna lie. We were talking about this

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<v Speaker 2>before we came on, Like we've heard about the reshoots,

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<v Speaker 2>the changes they've had to make, and it seems like

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<v Speaker 2>more than your average because we know that reshoots happen

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<v Speaker 2>on every movie. And I personally, as an Isaiah Bradley

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<v Speaker 2>fan who loves the comic that he was originally introduced in,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't love this idea of him being compromised and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But another thing that I did think was very cool

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<v Speaker 2>about this trailer for this movie was I love the

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<v Speaker 2>way that we're finally getting to see Sam actually use

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<v Speaker 2>his wings, something he barely ever did his falcon and fly.

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<v Speaker 2>You get that really sick moment at the end where

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<v Speaker 2>he caught wheels through a car and cuts a car

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<v Speaker 2>in half. We also get the moment where he does

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of wing blast when he sets middle and

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<v Speaker 2>knocks everyone out. I also do really love the line

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<v Speaker 2>where Thunderbolt Ross says to him, you're not Steve Rodgers,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Sam says you're right, like I'm not, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, okay, good, Let's see what that means in

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<v Speaker 2>this context.

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<v Speaker 1>An eighty two year old Harrison Ford playing the President

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<v Speaker 1>worryingly appropriate. Worryingly appropriate at age eighty two, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he should run. Now, just do it, bro like you,

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<v Speaker 1>I think listen. I think this trailer was a step

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<v Speaker 1>up from what we've seen. I do have concerns that

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<v Speaker 1>with all the tinkering, and more than tinkering really is,

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<v Speaker 1>by all accounts, they've gone in and torn up lots

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<v Speaker 1>of parts of this movie and reshot and rerode et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that the best we can hope for

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<v Speaker 1>is like a workable Frankenstein's ceiling. But let's see. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I am concerned that this will not be yeah that great.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that hopefully they can give Sam Wilson like

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<v Speaker 2>a movie that he deserves, but it will we are

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<v Speaker 2>yet to see where it shakes out.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that I like that they've steered into

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<v Speaker 1>the established Captain America kind of political thriller Winter Soldier

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<v Speaker 1>kind of tone. Yes, and I think that's smart.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen a lot of really good response for that

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<v Speaker 2>in the comic shop. People were very excited for that.

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<v Speaker 2>They felt like it was a return to that that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of Cold War thriller esque moment that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>feel even more relevant right now. We know that there

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<v Speaker 2>have been issues with certain characters, and I'm interested to

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<v Speaker 2>see if they are able to resolve those. We shall

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<v Speaker 2>see where it goes. But that was not the only trailer,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think, surprisingly to me, out of the two

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<v Speaker 2>trailers they showed, the Thunderbolts trailer was the one where

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<v Speaker 2>you were like, oh, Marvel thinks this is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a hit, which I did not think before this.

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<v Speaker 1>I completely agree with you. We get basically a three

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<v Speaker 1>minute plus almost four minute trailer that includes what appears

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<v Speaker 1>to be a scene from early on in the film,

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<v Speaker 1>a complete scene in which Red Guardian is driving his

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<v Speaker 1>fellows around, including Elena and US agent around in a

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<v Speaker 1>rental Limo.

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<v Speaker 2>That he that's his job. I guess that's Red Guardian

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<v Speaker 2>Limo Services, protecting you from a boring evening.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right as Bucky going like almost like full Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers nomad vibe drives up with an RPG at.

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<v Speaker 2>The end to save them.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this and this is a lot of material

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<v Speaker 1>that we saw from the leaks from d twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>that said this releasing this much. I agree with you, Rosie.

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<v Speaker 1>The energy is Marvel thinks this is good. Marvel thinks

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<v Speaker 1>this is a hit.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to be the big classic free comic

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<v Speaker 2>book Day movie, as we call it, which is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the May release. I will also say again,

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<v Speaker 2>who's doing the typefaces? Because I love this.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing that gets me more excited about a movie than

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<v Speaker 2>someone just putting giant typeface cross the screen. So they

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<v Speaker 2>introduce each of the characters that way, and we get

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of humor here that I think it's nice

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<v Speaker 2>to remember that the Marvel universe has always been funny

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<v Speaker 2>because of Jon Favreau, because of Robert Downey Jr. And

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<v Speaker 2>that can change like eternals. I love that movie. Not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily a funny movie Depool versus Wolverine, funny movie, but

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<v Speaker 2>definitely totally different tone. So this definitely feels like a

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<v Speaker 2>return to that MCU quippiness, but in a way that

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<v Speaker 2>I personally felt was not annoying. It felt tropy. It

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<v Speaker 2>felt like they were doing a different version of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's fun to see the banter between them. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a great couple of great really fun to see, even

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<v Speaker 2>though you know he is like a terrible person, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's the nature of the Thunderbolts. I feel like whyatt

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<v Speaker 2>Russell gets to have those funny moments he did not

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<v Speaker 2>get to have because the US agent is not funny

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<v Speaker 2>in the version we saw of him in the TV show.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was some great chemistry here. I love to

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<v Speaker 2>see it. Also, we do learn a huge thing here

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<v Speaker 2>if you are one for the Greater Law, which is

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<v Speaker 2>that it's clear that Contessa Valentina Alegra d'fontein is the

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<v Speaker 2>one who bought Avengers Tower. We see her standing in it.

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<v Speaker 2>She says it's good for optics for the team to

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<v Speaker 2>have it. There's lots of jokes about Thunderbolts the name.

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<v Speaker 2>They even do a joke at the end where you

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<v Speaker 2>get the little we Thunderbolts and everyone looks at Alexi

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<v Speaker 2>and doesn't like the name, and then when we see

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<v Speaker 2>it the next time, they've added the asterisks. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you my pitch what I think is going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen. I think that this team, just like in

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<v Speaker 2>the comics. I think they will be Valentina's version of

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<v Speaker 2>the Avengers, and for the movie we will they will

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<v Speaker 2>be being presented as the Avengers, and then really we

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<v Speaker 2>know they are a dark Avengers or a Thunderbolt, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that will end up being the takeaway and

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<v Speaker 2>people will be very shocked because, oh my god, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like an evil Avengers team. But then obviously we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>like a real Avengers team soon.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a different theory. I like your theory better,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just putting this alternate theory out there because

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's possible. So one of the characters that

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<v Speaker 1>we see in this trailer and that we saw in

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<v Speaker 1>the previous league is this guy who is in Bob,

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<v Speaker 1>who's in hospital smocks, and it's clear that he's powered

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<v Speaker 1>up in some way because you see at one point

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<v Speaker 1>that he's standing in front of these swat teams that

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<v Speaker 1>are facing him, and he's got all kind of his

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<v Speaker 1>shirt is all riddled with bullet holes. But he's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>he's fine. I think it's clear that this Bob is

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<v Speaker 1>the Century from Marvel definitely. Here's my theory. The Kntessa

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<v Speaker 1>Valentina Defontaine wants to elevate Bob to the superman that

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<v Speaker 1>the government can control, and in order to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>he has to eat up the bad guys who are

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<v Speaker 1>the Thunderbolts, who she is setting up to be crushed

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<v Speaker 1>by Bob the Century, so that they can get behind

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<v Speaker 1>Bob as the propagandistic superman.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that makes a lot of sense, especially because

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<v Speaker 2>this was giving big suicide squad vibes, So the either

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<v Speaker 2>of them being set up to present Bob as almost

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<v Speaker 2>their kind of superman. I think that's very smart and

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<v Speaker 2>I could definitely see that being the way, and she

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<v Speaker 2>is not in any way a reliable, trustworthy person for

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<v Speaker 2>them to be working with, so I'm interested. I was

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<v Speaker 2>not particularly excited for Thunderbolts, but this trailer did change that.

0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:18.360
<v Speaker 2>I love a good kind of Last time we had

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<v Speaker 2>the Pixies, this time we have the Toadies. It was

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<v Speaker 2>cut really well. It's got a lot of really funny moments.

0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:29.319
<v Speaker 2>I love that we got Bucky doing the terminator shotgun throw,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's just epically cool to me. I also like

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<v Speaker 2>that the way they introduced Bucky is almost like a

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<v Speaker 2>parody of an eighties movie, Like his hair is rolling

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<v Speaker 2>in the wind, he's got he's got the sunglasses. I

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<v Speaker 2>like to see Sebastian stan get his shine. He's been

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<v Speaker 2>doing a lot speaking of people, doing a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>interesting choices. He had fresh He's got a different man

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<v Speaker 2>coming out, which is going to be a big moment

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<v Speaker 2>for disabled cinema. So I'm very interested to see where

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<v Speaker 2>this goes. And it's not that long anymore. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>a while. Yeah, And the fact that we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>three MC movies next year and then multiple TV shows.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. I'm excited to get back on the horse.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy, baby. I was thinking when I was watching

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<v Speaker 2>the Thunderbous Trayla, I was like, twenty twenty five, we're

0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.360
<v Speaker 2>gonna be yappin'. We're gonna be here. We're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>yapping about Superman, We're gonna be yapping about Thunderbolts, gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be yapping about Sam Wilson, and all those TV shows

0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.960
<v Speaker 2>that they recently confound will be coming out next year,

0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.520
<v Speaker 2>like Iron How It's gonna be a crazy year for

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<v Speaker 2>the comic book heads.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be fun. I also love that this movie

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<v Speaker 1>is an opportunity for characters like Ghosts, Jehan Common and so.

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<v Speaker 2>I want How to Get Her Shine?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to get like a bigger moment than the moments

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<v Speaker 1>that they had in their movies. I'm excited for that.

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<v Speaker 1>And clearly again it seems like Disney thinks that this

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<v Speaker 1>is a big one, that this is a good one. Okay,

0:14:53.120 --> 0:15:14.200
<v Speaker 1>next up their Lock, Yeah, next the Airlock. Okay, Rosie,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. Let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hm.

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<v Speaker 1>The Joker fully Due is out. Quentin Tarantino loves it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh he does. Good for him. I'm glad I enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Penguin has finished in really bleak but incredibly thrilling fashion,

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<v Speaker 1>and that brings us to the new slate of offerings

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<v Speaker 1>as the James Gun era fully takes hold and first

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<v Speaker 1>up December fifth, twenty twenty four Creature Commandos.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's gonna be a very exciting tone setup because

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<v Speaker 2>it is gonna introduce a lot of characters who, according

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<v Speaker 2>to James Gunn, will be continuing their roles as live

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<v Speaker 2>action characters as well as he's seeing the animated series

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<v Speaker 2>from guns So, we've got India of Varma, love her

0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Game of Thrones, Rome Luthor, She's in so many great things.

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<v Speaker 2>She's gonna be the Bride who obviously is our Frankenstein's

0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.720
<v Speaker 2>bride style character from what we've seen so far in

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<v Speaker 2>the trailer, very brutal, efficient killer. We're gonna have Frank

0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Grio's coming from Ageless Ageless Frank Grio. He's coming from

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<v Speaker 2>the Marvel universe where he was Crossbones and now he's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be Rick Flagg Senior, a role that he will

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<v Speaker 2>quickly be reprising in Peacemaker too, I believe. In addition

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<v Speaker 2>to that, we're gonna have Viola Davis. Obviously, she has

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<v Speaker 2>been Amanda Waller for a long time in the DCU.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm glad they're keeping her in there. It's fantastic casting.

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<v Speaker 2>Sean Gunn he's always in everything. He's gonna be Weasel,

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<v Speaker 2>and Steve Age, who will be John as we met

0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:51.360
<v Speaker 2>him in Suicide Squad and Peacemaker. So this is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be very interesting. It's basically a soft launch for the

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<v Speaker 2>DCU because the real big live action launch will be Superman.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think this is going to be very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks very brutal, looks definitely very Invincible influenced. But

0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:10.159
<v Speaker 2>DC's had a storied history of fantastic animation, so I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is going to be really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is Amanda Waller's other outlaw team, a team

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<v Speaker 1>of monsters that she will have do various black op operations,

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<v Speaker 1>similar to the setup she has with the Suicide Squad,

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<v Speaker 1>but this time monsters. Yeah, and I'm excited for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I actually spoke to David Dasmulchin, who obviously played

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<v Speaker 2>Polka dot Man and Suicide Squad, who was in Batman,

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<v Speaker 2>the christophanoland Batman movies. He is currently writing a new creature,

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<v Speaker 2>Commando's Team for DC really cool. I interviewed him at

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<v Speaker 2>DC dot Com and he made a great point that

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<v Speaker 2>I think is going to be really important to this

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<v Speaker 2>version of the Creature Commandos, where basically he said, they're

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<v Speaker 2>very easy to immediately pose as the villains. So they're

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<v Speaker 2>a great team because if anything goes wrong, you just go,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, how did these monsters go out? It's

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<v Speaker 2>even harder to humanize them than it is the Suicide Squad.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think we're definitely going to see that duality.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, very exciting. And then before you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be twenty twenty five and if things go well,

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<v Speaker 2>it could be the year of DC.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, fun tie in for how this and this

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<v Speaker 1>shows you the attention to detail that James Gunn is

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<v Speaker 1>applying to his DCEU. Is this Creature Commandos is coming

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<v Speaker 1>in the wake of Peacemaker and the wake of Suicide Squad,

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<v Speaker 1>and after all the tremendous loss of life among the

0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:31.480
<v Speaker 1>agents that she has put in the field. She's restricted

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<v Speaker 1>from using human agents, so that's why she has turned

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<v Speaker 1>to monsters, right operations.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes so much sense after Suicide Squad too, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean going from that, that's going to be this brutal,

0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:47.200
<v Speaker 2>adult violent project and then next year we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get Superman, which obviously I'm assuming is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a totally different vibe this summer.

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<v Speaker 1>July eleventh, twenty twenty five. This is the big one,

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<v Speaker 1>the live action Superman from the DCEU. David corn Sweat

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<v Speaker 1>as Clark Kent Slash Superman, Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see this and to see how

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's smart that they're launching Superman first to

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<v Speaker 1>set the tone for this era. Of course, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get Crypto in there. I'm fascinated because I think much

0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:21.760
<v Speaker 1>has been said about how difficult it is to make

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<v Speaker 1>a compelling Superman, but I believe that James Gunn could

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<v Speaker 1>do it, So I can't wait to see what happens here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm very interested in it too, because there is

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<v Speaker 2>so many characters who have been cast for this. You're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Isabelle mccartt as hallgir Eddie gatheggis Mister Terrific,

0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Nathan philly And as Guy Gardner, Anthony Kerrigan as Metamorpho.

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<v Speaker 2>We're definitely going to get a Crypto. James Gunn did

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<v Speaker 2>an emotional post about how his own dog that he

0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:50.360
<v Speaker 2>adopted inspired Crypto. I think this could be a huge

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<v Speaker 2>launch pad and I'm very interested to see the kind

0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:55.639
<v Speaker 2>of story they're going to tell with so many characters,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be interesting. Does Superman already exist? We've

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<v Speaker 2>also had rumors this is where the authority will appear.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also very interesting because the next movie that is

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<v Speaker 2>due out after this in twenty twenty six is Supergirl

0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:12.119
<v Speaker 2>Woman of Tomorrow, which is not family friendly, not hopeful,

0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:17.280
<v Speaker 2>and this completely bleak western Shoka, which is gonna start

0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Milly Alcock, our fave from House of the Dragon. She's

0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:23.240
<v Speaker 2>gonna be Supergirl. It's gonna have Craig Gillespie directing, Anna

0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Nagera writing this screenplay, and it's adapting the Tom King

0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:31.199
<v Speaker 2>Bill Quiss Everly limited series that is set in the

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<v Speaker 2>Deep Cosmos and sees Supergirl, a drunken, depressed Supergirl go

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<v Speaker 2>on a true Grit style adventure with a young girl

0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:44.359
<v Speaker 2>who wants to get vengeance for her father's death. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's interesting that you're getting Superman and Supergirl,

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<v Speaker 2>but already they're gonna be in these very different spaces

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<v Speaker 2>and tones. I'm interested to see if they can balance that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, And now we go into the movies that

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<v Speaker 1>are farther aware. Are they gonna have the are they

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen? Movies? First up, the Authority, the hyper violent,

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<v Speaker 1>morally complex team.

0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Even complex due to who they were created by. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm it's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very much great of my word, Elis, with the

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<v Speaker 1>amazing art of Brian Hitch, apparently will connect to Superman somehow.

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<v Speaker 1>As you noted, I wonder if I mean for lawsuit purposes.

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<v Speaker 1>This can't happen, but there was that fake Evil Avengers

0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:36.160
<v Speaker 1>parody team in the Authority during the another complex air

0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:39.560
<v Speaker 1>quotes Complex person Mark Run of Mark Malaura on the

0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.520
<v Speaker 1>title that can't happen, but it would be really funny

0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:44.480
<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't there anyway? Tell us about the Authority.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just think this is another really interesting swing.

0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:49.600
<v Speaker 2>It's very likely that this would be more of a

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<v Speaker 2>bleak serious The Boys esque story. Yes, but they are

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<v Speaker 2>apparently rumor has it gonna appear in Superman. So maybe

0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:00.920
<v Speaker 2>there's a world it's more grounded. Maybe we're living in

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<v Speaker 2>a world where Superman is already trying to retire even

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<v Speaker 2>though he's young, because he loves Lewis Lane. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the Authority arrive. I know it's going to be very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also interested because after that, some of the other

0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:14.800
<v Speaker 2>ones they've mentioned are like The Brave and the Bold,

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<v Speaker 2>which again would be kind of a Damian Wayne Robin,

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<v Speaker 2>but it wouldn't be connected to Matt Reeves version of Batman.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of which, I'm going to bring up a movie

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<v Speaker 2>that has been unconfirmed as part of the gun Averse,

0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:27.360
<v Speaker 2>but we've seen both James Gunn and Matt Reeves talk

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<v Speaker 2>about a lot recently, which I'm very excited about, Dynamic Duo.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a Matt Reeves DC animated movie. It's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a Dick Grayson and Jason Todd as Robin's movie.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to see go online, guys and google the

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<v Speaker 2>videos of this because the puppet tree that they are

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<v Speaker 2>using is so unbelievable that it looks like CG It's

0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:56.359
<v Speaker 2>They're using these stop motion puppets where they've created a

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<v Speaker 2>new way to move their faces and it is some

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<v Speaker 2>of the most uncanny stuff I've ever seen. Sway Box

0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:03.840
<v Speaker 2>is the animation team behind it, and it's going to

0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:05.960
<v Speaker 2>be Arthur Mints and Teresa Anderson who are going to

0:23:06.000 --> 0:23:09.520
<v Speaker 2>direct the movie. I think this is very interesting because

0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:12.720
<v Speaker 2>it's not connected to the Matt Reeves Batman stuff, but

0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:15.200
<v Speaker 2>it is to do with Matt Reeves. But we've also

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:17.280
<v Speaker 2>seen James gun sharing it, so I think we could

0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:20.720
<v Speaker 2>start to see a bit more collaboration and crossover between

0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:25.359
<v Speaker 2>these seemingly disconnected universes. So that looks unbelievable and very

0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:28.240
<v Speaker 2>excited for that Swamp Thing obviously, I want that to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>That feels to me like the least likely to go

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<v Speaker 2>into production right now, not for any other reason than

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:36.160
<v Speaker 2>just it's so hard to bring it to life.

0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:39.320
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the Authority is the least likely because

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<v Speaker 1>of what's in it and because there's literally no one attached.

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:46.880
<v Speaker 1>At least with Swamp Thing. You've got James Mangold attached,

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:50.920
<v Speaker 1>that's true, and he's got some juice obviously with Wolverine

0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:53.720
<v Speaker 1>and Logan and three Tending my other movies he's made,

0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:57.360
<v Speaker 1>and it has a voice that really fits well.

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<v Speaker 2>With Swamp Thing. You could definitely see the visuals.

0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:02.480
<v Speaker 1>With Swamp Thing. But I feel like if there's one

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:05.959
<v Speaker 1>of these that at least won't happen in this cycle,

0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 1>it'll be the Authority. I feel like that's the one that.

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<v Speaker 2>Makes sense, especially as well if they do end up

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<v Speaker 2>introducing the Authority within Superman, there's a fair chance that

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<v Speaker 2>they might not need their own movie because we do

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<v Speaker 2>have some members of the authority who've already been cast,

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:25.560
<v Speaker 2>like the actress who played Ratcatcher two in Suicide Squad

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:29.119
<v Speaker 2>is the engineer. So it's interesting, but we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Television show wise, Peace make a season two definitely happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Excited, Yeah, show runner James Gunn, continuing.

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<v Speaker 2>The huge success for them with the first season.

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:42.359
<v Speaker 1>Yes, right, and a really interesting tone too that I think,

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes is unlike anything else that's out there in the

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:51.239
<v Speaker 1>superhero realm, really fun. Peacemaker is this heightened conservative with

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 1>a heart, and it'll be very interesting to see the

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:59.119
<v Speaker 1>tie ins through the various properties as this version of

0:24:59.160 --> 0:24:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the DCE Star.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what's going to be most interesting as we see

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:06.240
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five explodes. I agree, and we know that,

0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:09.199
<v Speaker 2>as we talked about recently, Marvel is coming in with

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:12.159
<v Speaker 2>a stack year, so this could really be a big

0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:16.440
<v Speaker 2>interesting space a show that's definitely happening. That they've done

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 2>a lot of casting on Lanterns. Who Kyle Chandler is,

0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 2>how Jordan Aaron Pierre Is, John Stewart, Tom King is

0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 2>actually working on this movie with Damon Lindelof and Chris Mundy.

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 2>Chris Mandy's going to be the showrunner. Very interesting. They're

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:32.960
<v Speaker 2>saying it's going to be a mystery on Earth, very grounded,

0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:35.879
<v Speaker 2>but it will set up a big part of what

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:39.879
<v Speaker 2>we're going into going forward. Jason, your pitch, now, what

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 2>do you think could be an Earth based mystery that

0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 2>would set out a huge story that they could follow Fanos'

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 2>style throughout this spread out DCU.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, that's a good one. I do wonder if

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:56.360
<v Speaker 1>it's something dark Side related.

0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 2>That feels like the most obvious answer.

0:25:58.000 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Some sort of centric cult that he's like created. Oh,

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I like that on Earth.

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 2>That would be very true detective too, and.

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:12.240
<v Speaker 1>That has caused chaos somewhere in some far flung corner

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:15.640
<v Speaker 1>of space that then the Lantern Core has to then

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 1>go follow a thread to investigate here on Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's my pitch. I think that would be really cool.

0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I am interested to see where they go with that one.

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:26.119
<v Speaker 2>We know that. Nathan Phillia, do you have a pitch do?

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 1>What is your theory?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I think you're right. I think something to do

0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:34.199
<v Speaker 2>with dark Side, some kind of occultist muders. Maybe there

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 2>could even be something where they could bring in a

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Motherbox or something. But I definitely think you're on the

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 2>right track. I also know that this is gonna be

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:44.439
<v Speaker 2>where we see Nathan Phillian come over as Guy Gardner

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 2>from Superman, so I think that will be interesting. I

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 2>love Guy Garder.

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I think that's Do you think he survives Superman?

0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 2>I think he survived Superman because they're making a lantern show.

0:26:54.320 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 2>He seems very killable and James enjoy kill I do

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 2>think knowing James Gunn's tastes, knowing his vibes, knowing the

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 2>things he enjoys, I'm sure, like me, he is a

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Guy Gardner enjoyer. Okay, other shows that we don't really

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 2>know much about Waller. We know that that's gonna be

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 2>a spin off with Viola Davis. Love that she deserves it.

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 2>I hope she gets some emmys. I'm sure it'll be

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:21.679
<v Speaker 2>very interesting. Paradise Lost interesting. That's gonna be kind of

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 2>your Femiscerra before Wonder Woman's story.

0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Which are politics of Semiscira.

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 2>That could be a Game of Thrones level show if

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 2>they do it right, then interestingly, a Booster Gold series.

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 2>I love Booster Gold, and I hope to me, I

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 2>hope it connects to the untitled Blue Beetle animated series

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:43.880
<v Speaker 2>that we're supposed to get, because obviously those two they're

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 2>great team together. I would love to see that. And

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 2>then we have stuff like The Batman Batman too. We

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 2>know it's coming out, It's gonna come out October twenty

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 2>twenty six, but that is an else World's movie.

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 4>Ye how now We've talked about this a lot, but

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:14.360
<v Speaker 4>I have.

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 2>This is a big question.

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 1>This is the big question. With the Penguin being as

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 1>good as it is, taking us to a level of

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:29.240
<v Speaker 1>immersiveness and detail with a focus on these villains from Gotham,

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, the success of that, how can this remain

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 1>else world If if the Batman two continues the run

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 1>of quality, and let's put success to the side. If

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>it continues to be as good and a Penguin season

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 1>two is as good and other properties that happen are

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 1>as good, can it remain separate?

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 2>You know what? Something I think that James Gunn has

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 2>proven throughout his walk, whether it's in the MCU or

0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 2>whether it's just been as the Helma of this DCU

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 2>so far, he has been very canny and keen to

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 2>showcase his knowledge for comics, right, and he shares the

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 2>comic book artwork, and then he says, Oh, this is

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 2>going to be an influence, and then the book sells

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 2>out like we had with the incredible you know all

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Star Superman by Frank Morrison, Grant Morrison and Frank Quietly

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 2>or Bill kus Everly and Tom King's Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow.

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I think naming it Elseworld is actually very clever because

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 2>not only does any DC fan immediately know what that means.

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Essentially it's an out of continuity story, but throughout history,

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 2>those out of continuity stories have been brought into continuity,

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 2>So I do think that that connotation is there. You know,

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 2>whether it's the Killing Joke or whether it's the Dark

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Knight returns, lots of things have been brought into real

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 2>continuity from Elseworld. I feel like if the Penguin does

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 2>an Emmy sweep, which I think is very likely, and

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 2>then the Batman two comes out, it also makes eight

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 2>hundred million dollars and continues this fantastic exploration, I think

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 2>it would be tempting to do those crossovers. But if

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 2>they managed to make this DCU Gods and Monsters first

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 2>phase a huge success in its own right, then it

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 2>will be very interesting to see if the James Gun

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Peter saffran Cohort can convince the execs to keep them separate.

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Gods and Monsters in a second, but

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to note one interesting detail in this

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 1>is no casting of Batman yet exactly.

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a huge I.

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Think there is a conversation that is happening, and I

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 1>think if the Batman two comes out critically acclaimed, building

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 1>on the momentum of the Penguin in the first movie

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>and makes a lot of money, I think there's a

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 1>world in which they bring that version of the Batman

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>to the DCU.

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Especially because I do think when I first watched The Batman,

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 2>which I loved, I remember being like, you know what,

0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 2>be so amazing if his Superman is somebody who has

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 2>just as much vision and style, but for a totally

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Superman centric story, so a happy story, a loving story,

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 2>and then you have to see those two worlds collide.

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 2>I think that is so interesting and we've never truly

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 2>gotten to see that.

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, here's my pitch. In the Gunnerverse, Batman is Ben Affleck.

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>He's fucking old, but somehow the portal opens, the streams

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>cross and they are able to get the Batman, Robert

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Pattinson version of Batman get him to this the James Gunnerverse,

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 1>and Ben Affleck takes a look at him and says,

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm too old to do this. Now you're perfect. You're

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>the young guys perfect. This is the new world for you.

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I understand that. But maybe you can be the Batman here. Yeah,

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, bad pitch, but a very clunky way to

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 1>do it. But I think that's the way they could

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 1>do it.

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 2>That's honestly. Nowadays portal things like that. I could see

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Matt Reeves he's managed to ground the wildest stuff, and

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 2>I could see a way where he could do it. Also,

0:31:57.080 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 2>there's so much potential here. That's what's really exciting. I mean,

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:02.719
<v Speaker 2>Aaron raised this great point, which I want to ask you.

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 2>So at first they were like every video game will

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 2>be connected. Obviously that didn't happen, and now they're like, well,

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 2>some of them will be connected and used in a way,

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 2>and the movies will be connected, but you'll be able

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 2>to enjoy every single one, as Aaron posed it in

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 2>the notes. Does that ever really work? Is there a world,

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:21.959
<v Speaker 2>Jason where you can have something that is interconnected but

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 2>still have people just randomly dip in and out for

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 2>what they're interested in.

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think it can work, but I think it's tough. Yeah,

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>but I think that there has to be a.

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Core that's the success of the original MCU. I guess

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 2>like the first couple of phases.

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I agree. You mentioned Guys and Monsters tell us about

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 1>that new paradigm in DC comics.

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 2>This is basically something that we If you're a DC fan,

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 2>you will have recognized this as there was a really

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 2>fantastic Gods and Monsters comic book, and there was also

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 2>a fantastic Gods and Monsters Justice League movie in twenty

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 2>fifteen from the very beloved DC Animated Universe. It's an

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:02.479
<v Speaker 2>ultimate universe vibe where there's a different universe of the

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Justice League and you have different Wonder Woman, Batman, Superman.

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 2>It's really really interesting, and I think it's very telling

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 2>that James Gunn used that phrase to describe this ten

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 2>year DCU plan. So I just would say, I think

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 2>we can just expect as always with James Gunn, some surprises,

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 2>some choices that may make us go, oh wait, that's

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 2>the character you're picking. And then obviously, like he did

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 2>with Guardians of the Galaxy, he made a team that

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 2>most people had never heard of into a billion dollar

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 2>success story. So I'm very interested in that. I think

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 2>it covers the notion of doing your trinity like Wonder Woman,

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Superman no Batman, as we mentioned, but also doing swamp

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 2>thing or creature commandos. So I think it's very tight,

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 2>very clever idea. So obviously none of this has happened. Yeah,

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 2>we're going into twenty twenty five and it's about to happen.

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 2>But I think the interesting thing is we're kind of

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 2>already also asking like what's next. What does this set up?

0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 2>What does the first ear set up? Will they inevitably

0:33:59.880 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 2>be going for a crisis, is that what they want

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 2>to do? Or are we multiversed out? Is this just

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 2>establishing an incredible blockbuster space where all these different stories

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 2>can happen. I'm very interested because it seems like they're

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.240
<v Speaker 2>doing backwards version of what the MCU did, where instead

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 2>they're introducing all the characters in the first movie and

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 2>then spreading out from there, which we have not seen

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:24.760
<v Speaker 2>work yet. But I do have trust in James Gunn.

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this because I think if you

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 1>take your audience to a place where the stories naturally

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 1>grow into this multiverse thing and everybody understands it, that's

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:37.880
<v Speaker 1>one thing. But I also think for a general audience

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 1>of the size that gun is going for, there are

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 1>going to be people like who are confused, right, just wait,

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>the Batman didn't happen here, or the Joker's not part

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 1>of it. How much work do you think that's going

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:53.280
<v Speaker 1>to be to get people Because obviously hardcore comics people,

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 1>nerd people, DC fans understand this inherently. Yeah, But like

0:34:57.600 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 1>for that lighter audience, how much messaging do you think

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 1>is going to be around getting people up to speed

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:04.879
<v Speaker 1>about what's part of it, what's not part of it.

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 2>I think it is a lot of work. But interestingly,

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 2>just the way that James Gunn has put himself out

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:14.840
<v Speaker 2>there on the Internet I think is a great watermark

0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 2>for what they can do. He has been very eager

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 2>to respond to rumors. If somebody says, hey, is this

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 2>casting true, he'll say yes or he'll say no. I

0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:27.240
<v Speaker 2>think if they had him on seth Meyer's famous comic

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 2>book lover and late night show hosts. I think him

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:33.280
<v Speaker 2>going on there and having these conversations in a really

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:37.239
<v Speaker 2>chill way, I think the news would disseminate enough that

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 2>most people would understand. I think a lot about Casino Royale,

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 2>the James Bond movie. I went to see that with

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 2>my mum, who loved the Pierce brosn and James Bond,

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 2>She loved Sean Connery James Bond, and she was legit

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 2>truly horrified by that movie. She did not comprehend why

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 2>it was so brutal, but by the end of it

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 2>she was kind of like, Oh, I get it, he's

0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 2>just a different James Bond.

0:35:58.080 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:00.840
<v Speaker 2>And you know what. I think that throughout his and

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 2>throughout Hollywood history, there has been enough of that cultural

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 2>conversation that even if they don't see him on late

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 2>night or they don't read an article about it, they'll

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 2>probably just be like, Oh, I get it, it's another Batman,

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 2>like there was another Michael Keaton Batman, or there was

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<v Speaker 2>another this. I do think that currently there's been so

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<v Speaker 2>much DC stuff, especially with this penguin stuff that's working

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<v Speaker 2>so well. In the Batman Epic Crime Universe as they're

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<v Speaker 2>calling it, and then the failure of Joker Folioda. But

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<v Speaker 2>that being such a huge known property, I do think

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<v Speaker 2>there is gonna be a little confusion. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>another smart thing is we've got eight months now till

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<v Speaker 2>Superman comes out, and I'm sure James Gunn is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be very present in the pop culture space having

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<v Speaker 2>those conversations, and we'll get to know more as trailers

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<v Speaker 2>come out, or we see comic con announcements, or if

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<v Speaker 2>DC decides they want to go back to a DC

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<v Speaker 2>fandom model and start doing their own D twenty three announcements.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the.

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<v Speaker 2>Rollout is what's going to be really interesting and tell

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<v Speaker 2>us a lot, because also there's so much potential here.

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<v Speaker 2>There was going to be the Black Superman film that

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<v Speaker 2>Tana he See Coats was going to do with JJ Abrams.

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<v Speaker 2>There was going to be a Constantine sequel with Keanu

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<v Speaker 2>Reeves in This Elseworld Life, hoping that happens. Also animated

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<v Speaker 2>film based off the incredible comic The Jurassic League, which

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<v Speaker 2>was where all the Justice League were dinosaurs. It's so

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<v Speaker 2>much fun. The art is just so dynamic, It's a

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<v Speaker 2>joyful read, and I love that Gun's taste is so

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<v Speaker 2>much more unconventional, and they seem a lot less afraid

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<v Speaker 2>of taking wild swings, whereas the success of the MCU

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<v Speaker 2>was based on not safe bets because the characters weren't

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<v Speaker 2>safe bets, but putting them in the hands of someone

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<v Speaker 2>like Jon Favreau and saying, make this grounded, make this believable.

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<v Speaker 2>With Iron Man, I would like to see James Gung

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<v Speaker 2>go the opposite direction and make things unbelievable, make superheroes

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<v Speaker 2>we can imagine we would want to come and save

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<v Speaker 2>our world, not having those conversations like who fills up

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<v Speaker 2>Batman's time? You know, those kind of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Lean into the dcness.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel the gods, the monsters. I'm very excited about it. Also, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so post Penguin, just quickly, how would you like to

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<v Speaker 2>see the Penguin play into the Batman too? Because we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have a couple of years, but I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that's going to be a big talking point for

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people who watch this show. How would

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<v Speaker 2>you like to see that show transition into the wider

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<v Speaker 2>world of Matt Reeves DC.

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<v Speaker 1>As like a big bad who Batman can't take on

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<v Speaker 1>in one movie, I think he's going to be an

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<v Speaker 1>overarching villain who goes after Batman as Batman starts to

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:40.799
<v Speaker 1>eat into his profits from his various businesses make things

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<v Speaker 1>unstable for him. I think he goes after him with

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<v Speaker 1>this stable of weirdo criminals that Gotham seems so full of.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he sets those people loose and has them

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<v Speaker 1>try and take on the Batman. Meanwhile, he'll be using

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<v Speaker 1>the halls of power again legal means to try and

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<v Speaker 1>unmask this who the fuck is this guy? Who is

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<v Speaker 1>this guy? Who could he be? Again? Batman can't just

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<v Speaker 1>walk into city Hall and punch a guy in the face.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be very, very difficult for him, as much

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<v Speaker 1>as we wish. As much as we wish, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a type of story where we see

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<v Speaker 1>Batman as Bruce Wayne having to try and make moves

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<v Speaker 1>to try and take on a guy like this because,

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<v Speaker 1>in a weird way, the Joker's easy because he's just

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking wacko who nobody likes. But if Oz has

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<v Speaker 1>the weight of the city behind him, it's gonna be hard,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm really eager to see how Batman could

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<v Speaker 1>take on that kind of criminal, who again is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to be touched with batter rings.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't just like drive your car through the side

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<v Speaker 1>of the city hall and grab him by the nape

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<v Speaker 1>of the neck. You're gonna have to do other things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's gonna have societal protection in a way to

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<v Speaker 2>the Batman villain the Stone. I love that. I also

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<v Speaker 2>just want to shout out, I know our super produce

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<v Speaker 2>a comment has been talking about this for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>The finale does seem like it could potentially sy up

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<v Speaker 2>a version of Jeff Lobe and Tim Sales Catwoman when

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<v Speaker 2>in Rome, where we would seek Selena and maybe she

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<v Speaker 2>helps Sophia get out. Maybe the pair of them try

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<v Speaker 2>and untangle this relationship. Maybe they become foes, maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>become friends. I think that could be a fantastic in

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<v Speaker 2>between series that could link together what we see in

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<v Speaker 2>The Batman two and what we saw in The Penguin.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be very excited to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Selena knows the truth of who the Hangman is,

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<v Speaker 1>whether she has personal experience with Sophia's dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Or oh yeah, because obviously Carmine choked her out like

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:38.800
<v Speaker 2>we saw him do that, so she knows.

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<v Speaker 1>She knows, and he killed her mom. That's right, So

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<v Speaker 1>she knows. And I think you're absolutely right. A team

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<v Speaker 1>up with them is going to be very very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Because Selena may want to say, well, my sister didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do this, she's not the hangman, but she doesn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>know the kind of person that Sophia truly is that

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<v Speaker 2>we have seen, So that could be a very spicy

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<v Speaker 2>and fun exploration.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, And who goes which way? Right? Like, exactly

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<v Speaker 1>does this make Selena more extreme or does this mellow Sophia? Unclear?

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would really really love to see that. Okay. Next

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<v Speaker 1>week on Xtra Vision, getting you ready for Ridley Scott's

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<v Speaker 1>Gladiator two, it's Swords in Sandals week. We're going back

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:23.600
<v Speaker 1>to two thousand and first for a rewatch of Ridley

0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Scott's Gladiator, then Tuesday recap of Arcane season two, Act two,

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 1>and Wednesday we'll be taking a detour to another Sandy

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<v Speaker 1>property for Dune Prophecy on Max episode one, and then Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>we're recovering some of our favorite Sword and Sandals movies Excalibur,

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:43.880
<v Speaker 1>movies of that nature. What else you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a huge fan of a Swords and sorcery, a

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<v Speaker 2>hemat oh something like that. I'm a big fan of

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<v Speaker 2>a little tech no barbarian legend. Yeah, now we're talking, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Friday, of course the main course Gladiator too. That's

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<v Speaker 1>it for this episode. Thanks for listening. Bye x ray

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