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Speaker 1: dive into this week's episode. My guest takes us on

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Speaker 1: a roller coaster ride of discovering her ex boyfriend's hidden

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Speaker 1: secret he was born a girl. From the initial shock

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Speaker 1: to navigating the legal twists and turns, and finding healing

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Speaker 1: through therapy, she is here to bear it all. I

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Speaker 1: hope y'all enjoyed this week's episode. I didn't know my

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Speaker 1: boyfriend was born a girl starting now. So to my guests,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for sharing your story on the show.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome. How you doing having me? Yes?

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Speaker 1: How you doing? How you feeling? I'm good, I'm good,

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Speaker 1: good good?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: How do you believe society's attitudes and perceptions about gender

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Speaker 1: can influence people willingness to be open and honest about

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Speaker 1: that gender identity?

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Speaker 2: Who? I feel like that community is so protected already.

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Speaker 2: People just need to get over themselves and have the

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Speaker 2: confidence to live how they want to live. Mm hmm,

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Speaker 2: because it's highly protected, Like it's a protected that we're

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Speaker 2: not that protected anymore, like weeople were in the first place.

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Speaker 2: But I think like it's getting worse for us because

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Speaker 2: they're highly protected.

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Speaker 1: Right when you say, huh, do you mean like women

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Speaker 1: or like who are you referring to black women? M Now,

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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts regarding honesty and disclosure when it

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Speaker 1: comes to gender identity and relationships.

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Speaker 2: When it comes to someone getting to know another person

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: All cards should be on the table.

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Speaker 1: Right if the if the relationship is going to turn intimate.

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Speaker 2: Correct now, Now, if it's just on the friendship level

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Speaker 2: friend zone, then keep it to yourself, right, But when

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Speaker 2: it gets sexual, yeah, that person needs to know everything.

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Speaker 1: Right, I'm not gonna lie y'all. So she heard me

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Speaker 1: on my Labelmates podcast. We talked back and she reached

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Speaker 1: out to me. And when when we started talking through

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Speaker 1: DM because I feel like we've been talking like every

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Speaker 1: about your story, Like I think you called my attention

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Speaker 1: like immediately, because you know, we do hear about these

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Speaker 1: stories coming from men, but I also think a lot

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Speaker 1: of men be on a download, but I never heard

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Speaker 1: about this story from a woman's perspective. So I was

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Speaker 1: just like wow, Like and obviously we're gonna get more

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Speaker 1: into your story. But you know when people hear your

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Speaker 1: story and you share it with them, what are their

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Ye're shocked, Like you gotta be kidding me? No,

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Speaker 2: you leaving now something? No, ain't no way no.

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Speaker 1: I was like, ain't no way on Beyonce's Internet, like

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Speaker 1: right now, do you think there are circumstances where it

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Speaker 1: is understandable for someone to keep their gender identity private

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Speaker 2: I don't think they have to disclose it if they're

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Speaker 2: not having sex with them right Other than that, if

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Speaker 1: Now. How did you and your boyfriend or ex boyfriend

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Speaker 2: I met him through this Facebook group and he was

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Speaker 2: to one of my Swarty sisters, or at least he

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Speaker 2: you reach out to my sorority sister and have her

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Speaker 2: whore for us to come through. And he did it,

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Speaker 1: So she didn't Did she know about the situation.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, no clue. To this day, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Have you asked her?

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Speaker 2: Or did you? I don't trust her?

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Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, So when y'all first met, like, what was

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Speaker 1: What did he look like or did you know did

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Speaker 2: This nigga was shorter than me.

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Speaker 1: I totally, but I'm five bait mm hmmm, So.

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Speaker 2: This nick was like five six five seven, so so

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Speaker 2: really didn't pay that much attention to it. And he

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Speaker 2: did look like his profile picture back I expect him

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Speaker 1: And I'm assuming do you think he got surgery of

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Speaker 2: The breast still there. He holds it down with one

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Speaker 1: So did you know they were personal? Did you think

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Speaker 1: And how long were y'all together?

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Speaker 2: It was almost it was almost a year. Oh, we

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Speaker 1: Right right, Wow, So what drew you to him? Like,

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Speaker 1: what made you want to pursue a romantic relationship? Not

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Speaker 1: he is a he's an attractive man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I wasn't even really looking for a relationship. He

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you but he can. He convinced me that

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Speaker 2: he was the only man that I needed. So I

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Speaker 1: So benually you started liking him, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I did. He was always there, very attendive, he was

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Speaker 2: He fed me a lot, because you know, I'd like

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Speaker 2: to eat. It was very refreshing in the beginning. But

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Speaker 2: you know, like those first three months are supposed to

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Speaker 1: Right, So were there any challenges or supposed to you

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Speaker 2: He was very controlling, very insecure. He didn't want me

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Speaker 2: all my male friends on social media. He didn't want

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Speaker 2: me involved with his family. You have a lot of

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Speaker 2: male friends, yeah, because I act here in this area,

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Speaker 2: so that's how our network. And plus I'm in a sorority,

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Speaker 2: I never met somebody so insecure.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, So what were the initial signs that made

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Speaker 2: We would go out and I remember one time we

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Speaker 2: were at this auto shop and this girl called his

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Speaker 2: do you and your sister look that much? Like you

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Speaker 2: have a full beard, you have a fade, Like what's

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Speaker 2: really going on? He's like, yeah, we damn near twins

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Speaker 2: and people are always mistaking us. And she wears a

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Speaker 1: And I'm assuming you never met his sister before, because.

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Speaker 1: Do he have a sister, Yeah, yeah, he has two

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Speaker 2: Yep, now I met them, but this particular sister I

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Speaker 2: And he was like, nah, she don't want to meet you.

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Speaker 2: So uh, I even try to find a sister on

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Speaker 2: I met his mama all that, but the sister was

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Speaker 2: never there. She got mailed there and everything. And I

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Speaker 2: But nope, never did mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: So when did you try to address your concerns with him,

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Speaker 1: like when you start to become suspicious and what was

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Speaker 2: I capt snooping through everything, like I never could see

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Speaker 2: his ID. So one time he left me in his

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Speaker 2: I was like, Hey, run this driver's license for me.

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Speaker 2: You better know it. Okay, So he ran a driver's license. Girl,

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Speaker 2: When I tell you, I was floored. I was like, oh, I,

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Speaker 2: hell no, this is him. Wait?

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Speaker 1: So when he when he when your friend ran the

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Speaker 1: driver's license, is it the name that you sent me?

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Speaker 1: That is that? Was it his name in the driver's license?

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Speaker 2: It was a sister's name.

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Speaker 1: But is the sister's name? Is that his real name?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Wow?

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Speaker 1: And didn't look like him in the picture?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Wow? Just with braids, just with coin rolls.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 1: So even when you had that proof, were there even

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Speaker 1: moments where you even doubted your own judgment or intuition?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because there were other things that had me questioning

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Speaker 2: like did he have a sex change right? And he

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Speaker 2: just didn't want to tell me, like what really happened? Right?

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Speaker 2: I even asked one of my nurse friends and I

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Speaker 2: was like, is there really a such thing as her

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Speaker 2: methodite and she was like, yeah, that's real. And I

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Speaker 2: was like, is that what I'm involved with? Like, if

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Speaker 2: that's the case, tell me that. But he never would

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he said that he had a body suit

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Speaker 1: Now, come on, now, you didn't think that was crazy?

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Speaker 2: He had a body suit on, like, quote unquote, he

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Speaker 1: So how were y'all intimate?

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Speaker 2: He would just pull his dick out. He would never

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Speaker 1: You didn't think that was like? Like did you ever

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Speaker 1: And you also mentioned how he was using a deal though,

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Speaker 2: Yes, because he had said this other girl the picture

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Speaker 1: Wow. Not for nothing. When you were telling me this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I went through therapy. I was like, I can

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Speaker 2: So when I went to foul charges, I wanted to

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Speaker 2: because I did not sign up to have sex with

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Speaker 1: And you also mentioned how you saw nothing come out

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Speaker 2: And I asked my nurse fan and she was like,

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Speaker 1: Like that, and I was like, I deal, don't like that.

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Speaker 2: I said, this is a real how does that happen?

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Speaker 1: And it looked real, it was real. And I'm assuming

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Speaker 2: I gave him a hand, but he didn't met in

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Speaker 2: my masks. I don't do that with no real nigga anyway,

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Speaker 2: But right, yeah, because I don't trust niggas dying if

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Speaker 1: Right But and the only reason why I'm asking this

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Speaker 1: everything to please that person. So and I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 2: Like? One time it hurt me and I was like.

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Speaker 1: How the fuck hurt you?

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Speaker 2: type of growth like that. What? So I stopped and

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Speaker 1: And you also said that you never saw his balls, never.

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Speaker 2: Saw the balls, And I said, went towards the end

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Speaker 2: of the relationship, I said, I need you to prove

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Speaker 2: you violate my privacy. You try to body shame me.

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Speaker 2: D D. So I asked a real man, I said,

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Speaker 2: was like, what kind of question is that?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: And I said exactly. I said, well, this quote unquote

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Speaker 2: I even told him, I said, if you can prove

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Speaker 2: And you know I don't do that, right, So if

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Speaker 2: But no, he didn't.

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Speaker 1: So when did you discover that your boyfriend was born

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Speaker 1: the license and the glove department. But someone also found

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Speaker 1: pictures of him as a little girl, his childhood pictures.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not a little girl, but it was a

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Speaker 2: but it was him. So I showed him.

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Speaker 1: The picture dressed as a girl.

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Speaker 2: Oh, well as a stud yeah, mm hmm. So when

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Speaker 2: I told him that picture, he damned near terns white

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Speaker 2: His eyes got real big. I thought he was gonna

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Speaker 2: you caught explain this ship. And he was like, but

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Speaker 2: ain't mean, nah, bitch, this is you, And I whooked

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Speaker 1: Oh so that's when y'all thought.

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Speaker 2: That's when I fought him. He wouldn't fight me back.

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Speaker 1: And how did you have the fight?

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Speaker 2: Break up? I saw my boss. We were at my

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Speaker 2: So yeah, after we broke up, it just got worse

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Speaker 2: because he couldn't take a breakup. He started stopping me,

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Speaker 2: started harassing me, started using all these Google phone numbers

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Speaker 2: on me that he knew couldn't be traced. He slashed

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Speaker 1: If you wanted to get a new you had to

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Speaker 2: Whole new car. Wow, And I was came it away

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Speaker 1: Do you think that he was harassing you? Or do

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Speaker 1: you think that he was afraid that she was going

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Speaker 1: to share his secret that he was born a woman

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Speaker 2: Both both, And I'm sharing the hell out of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all. She been sharing her stories with the news.

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Speaker 1: She's trying to get on TV TV shows. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's very unfortunate though, because I don't like when people

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Speaker 1: me make that choice, right. But I also feel like

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Speaker 1: it's very unfortunate that you don't feel safe enough to

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Speaker 2: So, Like he's on Facebook. I told you that he

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Speaker 1: Oh, we're gonna get to.

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Speaker 2: That, okay, So all his friends on Facebook take their

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Speaker 2: friends with a born man. Now. I was on another podcast.

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Speaker 2: There are some people that listen to the other podcasts

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Speaker 1: So when you when you finally realized what the truth was,

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Speaker 2: I had a nervous breakdown mm hm, and I had

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Speaker 2: I said, not evenna die, but it's nigger. And I

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Speaker 2: them all the teeth. I tell them everything because he's

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Speaker 2: up really bad. Right.

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Speaker 1: So what were some of the things you discovered that

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Speaker 2: Being an alpha, he said he was thirty four years old,

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Speaker 2: that Niger turn fifty two this year, No, no, fifty three,

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Speaker 1: Also having a sister, because I don't think he has

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Speaker 1: But then you speak to his family and you said

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Speaker 2: I think they're under assumption that he's being honest, right,

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Speaker 2: But when they go but when the police go over

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Speaker 1: But he had folks house.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had his mama house. Damn be because he

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Speaker 2: has no real job. He's a con artist, but he

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So when did you realize that you were

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Speaker 2: So I did these stage place here and he was

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Speaker 1: So is she scared or embarrassed or like? What is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, people can be so cruel

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Speaker 1: And how many women were there?

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Speaker 2: He told me it's been eight of them. But I

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Speaker 1: And eight of women that he lied about or lie.

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Speaker 2: To lie too.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he told you that.

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Speaker 1: Wait, how did that conversation come about? Because that's bold?

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Speaker 2: No? No, well, I mean he told me about the

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Speaker 1: conversations with, Like, what are some of the things that

442
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: you discovered between the two women you've been talking to?

443
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: She's still trying to take legal actions. And he was

444
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 2: talking to he was talking about me to her, and

445
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 2: I said, oh, that's one bold mother talking because you know,

446
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: if you tell any woman about me, that's stupid on

447
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 2: his part, because I am going to tell it, all right,

448
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 2: because I don't want anybody else to be a victum.

449
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 2: I don't want it to go as far as it

450
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: went with me and him.

451
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: Because somebody can't get hurt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's

452
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 1: that's not even trying to be funny, Like that's a

453
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: serious matter, especially when you're lying to somebody and then

454
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: you also engage in sexual shit exactly right.

455
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 2: Because my thing is if he was just honest in

456
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: the beginning, like, hey, before we do this, before we

457
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: get intimate, I want to let you know that I

458
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: was born a woman. How do you feel about that?

459
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 2: And I would have been like, I can't even do it, mane,

460
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 2: I got to go on to the next right, that

461
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 2: was gonna be back up, but I can't do this

462
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 2: with you.

463
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 1: That was one of my questions I had for you.

464
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: If he would have been honest with you about him

465
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: being born a woman and obviously he has already transitioned

466
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: minus the obviously the dick. Would you be over to

467
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: dating him because.

468
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 2: No, no, he was lying about too much from the

469
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 2: first initial conversation.

470
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 1: Right, So no. And one of the things you told me,

471
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: and I couldn't wrap my head around you was it's

472
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: like girl was when you said one of the women

473
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: told you that he would turn the lights off in

474
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: the bathroom so the girl couldn't see which way his

475
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 1: feet was pointed. And I'm like, what do you mean?

476
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: And you was like, guys standing up the pe their

477
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: feet is pointing towards a toilet.

478
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 2: And I'm like, nah, yeah, yep.

479
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: And you have never seen this man p.

480
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: No, Like like, if he was here in my house,

481
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 2: you go in my bathroom, locked the door. If we

482
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 2: were out in public, he would always go to the

483
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: men's room. I never saw him P I never saw anything. Mmmm.

484
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: So what are some of the legal or other recourse

485
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: that you took for this particular situation, because obviously you

486
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: were violated.

487
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went to court and because I fould charges

488
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 2: for harassment and stalking, and we went to court and

489
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: one judge was like, I want to see both people.

490
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: I want to see you and your sister. So then

491
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 2: his lawyer changed judges and the second judge was like,

492
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to touch this, so she dismissed it.

493
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 2: She was afraid to have him prove his sex mm hmmm,

494
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 2: because I wanted the sex proven, and I wanted him

495
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 2: to get a psyche bow because I think he has

496
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: a personality disorder, a split personality disorder. Mmmm. And he doesn't.

497
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 2: He doesn't claim to be transgender transgender, and plus he's homophobic.

498
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

499
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: What would he say that for you to think that

500
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: he was homophobic.

501
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: He would always I don't want to offend any anybody

502
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 2: in there in that community, so please forgive me for

503
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 2: these words. But he would say, oh that shit, that

504
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: all that fag, oh that butch ship like that, right,

505
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 2: and I'm like that. But you have those people in

506
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 2: your family, so why would you talk talk about them

507
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 2: like that, right, and and that's living their lives honestly.

508
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 2: Right to receive anybody, right hm hm.

509
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: And you also mentioned that you pressed charges for him

510
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: for stalking you and harassing you, but that was later dropped.

511
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: Why was that.

512
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: Everything was dropped? Uh that? That second judge is just

513
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 2: worthless to me? I had uh DA on my side.

514
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: She hadn't asked no questions, and I was like, oh

515
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: my gosh. Right, I had a district attorney attorney at

516
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: first that I wanted to keep, but she got switched out,

517
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 2: then she got married and moved moved along or whatever.

518
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: But I just felt like everything was against me because

519
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: that community is so protected, and he paid for a lawyer,

520
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 2: he paid for all his legal fees. I ain't paying nothing.

521
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: Right, So how are you doing? Because I feel like

522
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: when we was, you know, DM on each other, you know,

523
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: for obvious reason. I can definitely sense your anger. So

524
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: how have because this has been how long? Has this

525
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: been almost a year or two years?

526
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 2: No, it's going on three years now.

527
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: So how have you been doing? Like, how have you

528
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: been coping with this? Because I know you mentioned you've

529
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 1: been going to therapy?

530
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I started going to therapy, and I just feel

531
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: much better when another woman reaches out to me seeking answers,

532
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: and I'm able to give those answers right. And then

533
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: I have people like you who give me a chance

534
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: to come tell my story on these platforms to help

535
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: other women out. As many women as I can help out,

536
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: I will. And I'm an open book. I'm gonna tell

537
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 2: you everything. I'm gonna be honest about everything. I'm gonna

538
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: give you all the information that I possibly can, because

539
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 2: this person needs to be in the psyche woard, right

540
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: and Jill's not gonna help but a psyche board it's

541
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: what's needed.

542
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: And what about your relationship with yourself? Because I know

543
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: that at times when I disappoint myself, I feel like

544
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: that's the worst disappointment ever. So how have you been

545
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: feeling about yourself? Like do you feel like you can't

546
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: trust yourself? Or like how has this affected your own

547
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: belief and you know, trusting yourself.

548
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: I still believe in love, So I still hopeless romantic,

549
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: and I give people opportunities and I believe them until

550
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: they tell me exactly who they are or until they

551
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: really disappointment or a dust me. But right now, I've

552
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: just been through so much. I'm just having some me time.

553
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: Like I'll carry on the conversation with somebody, but other

554
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: than being in a relationship or something. Yeah, I'm not

555
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: doing that for a.

556
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: While, right, right? Are you you afraid? Which I don't

557
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: blame you.

558
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid. I'm just getting too off all this bullshit, right,

559
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: And I've been the type to jump into relationships without

560
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: really getting to know a person, and that's what I

561
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: did with him. I should have waited it out. I

562
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: should have kept my roster.

563
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: Right. Where do you think that's them from daddy issues? Yeah,

564
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: which we relate to child Yeah. Wait, what does your

565
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: family say about all this?

566
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: Oh? My mom? My mom was shocked. She was disappointed

567
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: because she really liked him in the beginning, right, but

568
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: then she realized how clinking he was, and he was

569
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: like does he not have a home to go to?

570
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: He's like, why is he always up under you? And

571
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: so when they started dwindling down, she got concerned, of course,

572
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: and then she moved and then she was like, trust

573
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: this person. So I need you to get a gun.

574
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: I needed you get a roommate. I need to get

575
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: the dog. So I did all that. Really, I'm licensed

576
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: to carry, I have a dog, I have a roommate,

577
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: I have all of that. I have cameras around my house.

578
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: So he knows not to come up in my neighborhood

579
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: because my neighbors even watch my house. My neighbors will

580
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: tell me something is going on around my house.

581
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: What were some of the reflags your mom saw for

582
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: her not for her to go from really liking him

583
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: to not trust to him.

584
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: We were raised in the same religion and this area

585
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: is small, so she started asking questions. What religion is

586
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: that Church of Christ? Okay, so she started asking questions.

587
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 2: They started asking older members of the church and they

588
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: knew his family and they was like, no, that person

589
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: doesn't exist.

590
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know once you get the church in

591
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: bomb Child, right right, you know the eldest they got

592
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: time for some tea.

593
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: Man exactly right. Wow, Yeah, that.

594
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: Is fucking crazy.

595
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, So where is he now?

596
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: Like, has he been trying to get in contact with you?

597
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: No, that's no way for him to get in contact

598
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: with me because he's blocked on everything.

599
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: Mmm, but I know you mentioned that he's hiding.

600
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's hiding because this other lady is trying to

601
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: get him served. Wow. So yeah, people after him. Yeah,

602
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: he needs to lay low. He needs to stop trying

603
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: to get another victim. He needs to sit down somewhere.

604
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: Wow, Oh my god. And was he working like honey?

605
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 2: He said that he invested homes and other businesses that

606
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: nigga was in doing shit. He had too much time

607
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: on his hands. When I tell you, this man used

608
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: to come pick me up at six point thirty in

609
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: the morning to take me to work. He would be

610
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: there for me on my lunch break. He would come

611
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: pick me up from work, bring me home, take me

612
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: out to eat. He wouldn't go home until it was

613
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: time for me to go to bed.

614
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: So how was he getting money?

615
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: I didn't get a disability chick. And like I said,

616
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: he a con artist, So I don't know what else

617
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: he was kind of like the girl before me said

618
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: that he used to make people's checks, like employee checks,

619
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: like he knows how to do that. And like that

620
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: certificate that I see you where he got a name change.

621
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: Clearly that wasn't the same font, so he typed that over.

622
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 2: So that name that he goes by, that's not a

623
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: legal name. He's still legally his female name.

624
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: He's playing a dangerous game.

625
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: Man, very dangerous.

626
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: So what are some lessons you have learned from this

627
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: experience about the importance of trust, communication, and intuition and relationships.

628
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: I'm not ignoring any more red flags. I'm questioning everything.

629
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: I gotta see baby pictures. I gotta see your license,

630
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: you gotta I gotta see it. I got I gotta

631
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: handle your dicking balls. I gotta see it all.

632
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: Will you Jack come off?

633
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: No? Uh uh.

634
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm assuming you're not really a sexual person like that.

635
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: I'm very sexual. But he had he had body image issues,

636
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: so I really couldn't do anything to him. He was

637
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: all in the place and met M.

638
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: Now you're about to have a bit of thinking. That's

639
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: a red flag, child? Yeah wow, Yeah, that is crazy.

640
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: And you made a good point. You know, we don't

641
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: really hear about this about this stuff where you located at.

642
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: No. I just expect this shit to go down in Atlanta,

643
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 2: right right.

644
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: I mean you are three hours away from Atlanta, No, child.

645
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah wow. But this place is too small for

646
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: may be talking up like that.

647
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: This place is very small where you at. That's a

648
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: fact that the fact do you feel like you need

649
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: closure from this like when an apology do or do

650
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: we even matter?

651
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 2: I don't trust his apology because apology is changed behavior

652
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: and he's not changing anything.

653
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: Right.

654
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: I want him locked up, That's what I want. That

655
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: would be my closure. Locked up or gone to see

656
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: the Lord. One of the two.

657
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: Now, come on, now, we can't. We can't do that shit.

658
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: That's no in between, no in between it all because

659
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 2: the way he's living, if he crosses the wrong person,

660
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: that's what's going to happen.

661
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

662
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: Wow.

663
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: And what's your homegirl said about this?

664
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: They were like, what should be doing to these men?

665
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: Because but they were very supportive. Even when he cut

666
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: my girl's gas line, she was still here. She was

667
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: still supportive.

668
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: Why after her?

669
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: He was a jealoush bitch. He hated all my friends.

670
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 2: If I wasn't with him, then he assumed that I

671
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: was cheating and I'd be at my homegirl house playing cards.

672
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: But now I'm over that cheating with some other niggas.

673
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: Nigga had major trust issues, and I feel like he

674
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: had major trust issues because he was living a lie.

675
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: Right that part? Wait, what did your brother say?

676
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: They don't talk about it even if they listen to

677
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: this podcast. Or listen to my first one. They won't

678
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: discuss it with me.

679
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: Why or why do you think?

680
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 2: So we were all raised in the church, and you know,

681
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: in the Black Church, sexual sin is the main one

682
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: that was seeing you to hell. So they didn't want

683
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: to talk anything about any sexual sins or anything.

684
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 1: So I'm assuming that they don't have sex.

685
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

686
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: You know when niggas are in the Bible bell they

687
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: don't play that.

688
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: So no, not at all. But one of them, he

689
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: is he is Uh, he's an upright man. Uh. He

690
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: was made but his wife died of covid uh and

691
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: that was the only woman he's ever been with.

692
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: Oh my god, my condolences.

693
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh but but but uh, once he gets to

694
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 2: a place where he's ready to date again and ready

695
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: to marry, he's an excellent catch. Right wow mm yeah.

696
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: So you know, I feel like because one of the

697
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: things that you mentioned is that you're in a sorority,

698
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: and I'm assuming you pledge in the South. So I

699
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: just know just from that life that you know, people

700
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: talk whatever. It didn't do on any other alphas that

701
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: you was like, hey, you remember my boyfriend is this,

702
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: and then like they eve ever dawned on you or like.

703
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: I had two alphas because he said he went to Damn,

704
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: what's that? It's a school, it's a hbc U and Louisiana.

705
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: Start with the D. My mind is going to yeah,

706
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: mm hmm. I forgot. I would have to ask the

707
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: girl was before she went to because that's the school

708
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: he claimed he went to.

709
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: Right, but he did not.

710
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: He did, he went, he went to Ball State. He

711
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 2: didn't finish. He didn't finish that two year community college.

712
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 2: But but Nigga claim to be a psychologist. Nigga claimed

713
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,959
Speaker 2: to be a business owner. Just all lives. Everything's a lie.

714
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: But I had two alphas research it because he said Delaware.

715
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: But it's not in Louisiana.

716
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: I look it up. But he claimed to go to

717
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 2: that school. So I asked him for the line name.

718
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: I asked him for his line number. I asked what's

719
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 2: his line brother's.

720
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: Names and what he's saying.

721
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 2: He came up and some bullshit. I can't even remember

722
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 2: what it was.

723
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: Because most of them pledged Espeasically, people who played in

724
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: the South are very proud, right right.

725
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: I had some alphas research and there was like, we

726
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: can't find this person this mother fuck the line. Even

727
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: on the Father's Day, I gave him a shout out

728
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: and he was like thanks, no, no, no, I didn't give

729
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: a shout out. My well, I did, but then my

730
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: words gave a shout out. And then when I was

731
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 2: shouting out other alphas, he gave the middle finger. But

732
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: but then know other alpha's question like, bruh, why why

733
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: are you looking us off? Like what's the problem? Right,

734
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: But one of his nephews is an alpha, So whoever

735
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: he talks to or whoever he's close to, he imitates

736
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: their life. So since I'm a psychology major, he claimed

737
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: that he was a psychologist. Since this other girl went

738
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: to school in Louisiana, he claimed that's who he went to.

739
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 2: This other lady who's a business owner, he took some

740
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: of her information and using this his is mm, so

741
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: everything's a lie, honey, everything?

742
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is crazy. So looking back, what advice would

743
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: you give to others who might find themselves in a

744
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: similar situation?

745
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: Ask questions, investigate, yeah, ask for all identification. People who

746
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: don't have friends is a red flag to me. And

747
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: he didn't have friends. He had no hobbies and that's

748
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: why he had all the time in the world to

749
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: manipulate others.

750
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: Now, you mentioned earlier that the girl who introduced y'all,

751
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: do you think she did this on purpose because you

752
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: say you don't trust her.

753
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 2: No, I don't think she did it on purpose. But

754
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: she had a bad rep on Facebook, and she went

755
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: to hide in for a minute because a lot of

756
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 2: people are after her for their money. And I just

757
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: said that she was in a really dark place and

758
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: she was accepting any friend at that time.

759
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: Right right now. If I'm playing Devil's advocate, do you

760
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: think you played a role in all of this? And

761
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: if you do, what do you think you could have

762
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: did differently?

763
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: I could have demanded for him to get fully naked.

764
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: I'm not doing the switch.

765
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: I should have made that mother for the Bendo ban cough. Yeah,

766
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: I guess.

767
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't know.

768
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 2: Man.

769
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: The fact that the nigga had a deal dough it

770
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: with some nut coming.

771
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 2: Out, yeah yeah. And I even told her one time, Okay,

772
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: we just got through walking and this was towards the end,

773
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: so I was questioning everything, and I was like, you

774
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 2: got some expensive fast dick and he was drinking water

775
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: and he choked and I was like, Nick, what' you

776
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: choking for But yeah, that that had to be an

777
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 2: expensive deal door or he really paid to get that

778
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: transition done. But I don't know where he's getting the

779
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: money from. I guess it's my main charges Tom know

780
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: rent he uh, he keeps buying cars. I don't know

781
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: where he's getting this money from. But ooh when she

782
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: hit the fan, cause you know, uncle Sam don't playing

783
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 2: about his.

784
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: Money, right, So when do you think that you're going

785
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: to be finally be done with this? And the only

786
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: reason why I asked because, like I said earlier, like

787
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: I can tell like this really still bothers you, and

788
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: rightfully so, because I feel like if I was in

789
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: your situation, it'll have me question it every fucking thing.

790
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So what do you think you're gonna need

791
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: in order to move for or move past this? Or

792
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: do you think you ever moved past this?

793
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: Either. I want to see him make a public apology

794
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 2: and acknowledge what he's doing to women or what he

795
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: did to women, and just stop it all together, stop

796
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: manipulating people, or he would have to be locked up.

797
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: M hmm.

798
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: And what if you don't get neither one.

799
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: Well, I'll just wait on I'll just wait to see

800
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: his obutuary, and I'll just have to go to the

801
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: funeral and make sure that he's really dead. And then

802
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 2: I say, ain't God good shah.

803
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: Now you're a woman of faith. You know you can't

804
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: be acting.

805
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 2: Like that, Honey. I don't turn the other cheek. I

806
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 2: don't look. I ain't Michelle. I love Michelle and everything,

807
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 2: but I'm going very low because I'm telling you I

808
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: am a heterosexual woman. I never wanted a woman mm hmm,

809
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: and that choice was taken away from me. So to me,

810
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: that's rape.

811
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: Mhm.

812
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: So to be raped by a woman knowing that I'm

813
00:42:55,160 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: straight and never confessing to me the real identity, that's

814
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: a huge problem for me. And to know that he's

815
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 2: still like, you're doing this and still getting away with it,

816
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: that makes.

817
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: It even worse, right right, No, I get it. You

818
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: were definitely violated, and I think something should be done

819
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: because for someone to take that choice away from you,

820
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: that's that's fucked up. Yeah yeah, yeah, And I can

821
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: tell that not only did the lie hurt you, but

822
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: also the fact that you know you're not attracted to women,

823
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: So no, no, I feel like and also you know,

824
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: just by you sharing your background from being you know,

825
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: being born in a certain denomination. I feel like that's

826
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: what's really bothering you as well.

827
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't practice that anymore. I'm more spiritual

828
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: than anything, because I feel like these organized religions were

829
00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: forced onto us by our enslavers, and I'm taking myself

830
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: away from all of that. I'm getting out of that mindset.

831
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: But whoever wants to live the life they want to live,

832
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: they still want to believe in all that, that's up

833
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: to them. But I'm researching on my own and coming

834
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 2: into my own, and I just feel like so much

835
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: was already stripped away from us. For this person to

836
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: be black themselves and strip more away from me, that's

837
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 2: what really hurt. That was really the knife in the back.

838
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: And I even talked to him before. I said, black

839
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: women are the most unprotected people in America, in the world,

840
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 2: and he didn't understand that. And I said, how you

841
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 2: not understand that you're being a black man. You're right

842
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: above us, you'll be a black man. How do you

843
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 2: not feel that we're not being protected? Like I thought

844
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: of police several times? This nigga was down my street

845
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: in his car stalking the fuck out of me, and

846
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: the police would not go serve him. M M. But

847
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: I said, if I was a white woman, this motherfuck

848
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 2: would be in Ja. This motherfuck would be in the

849
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: psyche board. Do you somep a black woman, nobody gives

850
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: a fuck.

851
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you's safety? I mean, obviously, being

852
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: start the harassed, I would assume that you didn't feel safe.

853
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: But did you ever feel like he could have had

854
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: potential to do something to you?

855
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? He could have. He had plenty of opportunities. M yeah.

856
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: And have this changed your perspective on like, how do

857
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: you feel about the transient in the community now?

858
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 2: As long as they're honest with people, especially when it

859
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 2: comes to intimacy, sex, sex, that's none of my business.

860
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: But my problem lies with the people who are untruthful

861
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: about it, intentionally deceive people because they're afraid of rejection.

862
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: My thing is just be honest from day one, because

863
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: when I catch you in a life, all hell breaks

864
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: loose and you lose my trust and you're not getting

865
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 2: it back. And that's what that person did. I trusted him,

866
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: and I ignored all the red flags. I gave him

867
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt, even when I found out.

868
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: I was in the now because I was like, ain't

869
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: no way, ain't no way. We had sex all this time,

870
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: for almost a year, and he never wants wanted to say, hey,

871
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: let me confess something. I've been lying to you this

872
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: whole time. No apology, no nothing. And then on top

873
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: of that, to add insult to injury, you want to

874
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 2: stalk and harass me afterwards or because I found out

875
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: the truth. It was all mind boggling.

876
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 1: You know what I just thought about. So he never got.

877
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: Drunk around you, No, no, he wasn't a drinker. But

878
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: the funny thing is he got poured over on seco

879
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: de mine and got locked up. What would you do

880
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: in that thing? Because you don't drink?

881
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: Do what he can wck up for.

882
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: I had to warrant out for him for harassment and stalking.

883
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 2: And I don't even know how he got pulled over.

884
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 2: I don't know if he was pulled over. I don't

885
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 2: know if some cop just recognized them. I don't know

886
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: what happened. M but that's when he got locked up.

887
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 2: I mean, he would drink little wines with me or whatever,

888
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: but it was never anything heavy, right, because I'm thinking

889
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 2: I got drunk because.

890
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, if you having a good time, it's

891
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: a vibe, y'all drinking, people get drunk and they get

892
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: nasty like, so I'm thinking like of just different ways

893
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: that it could have been that you could have noticed.

894
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: But obviously his voice was deeper, he was he was

895
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: male presented, He had a low cut nigga had a

896
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: full beard, right, and his mannerism, I'm assuming was definitely man.

897
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: So the nigga worked on cars and everything.

898
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: Right, I can definitely see how this how this happened.

899
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that a lot of people are gonna

900
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: reach out because I don't think that this topic is

901
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: discussed from this perspective, from a woman's perspective, And you know,

902
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: I really do hope that something is done because if

903
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: he's been involved with eight women and so far too

904
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: have came forward to you slowly, but surely there's going

905
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: to be more.

906
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: And I'm ready for him. I'll be that shoulder to

907
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: cry on, because it goes back and forth, like like

908
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,959
Speaker 2: one minute you feel like you're over it, and then like, damn,

909
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 2: that motherfucker did all that, and then I think back

910
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 2: on it sometimes like damn, he lied about this. He

911
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: lied about that. Damn everything was a lie.

912
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm assuming you since y'all got comfortable with

913
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: each other and you were starting to really like him

914
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: and he was the only person that you was dealing with,

915
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you saw a future with him.

916
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: No, because I always had a backup plan. I'll always

917
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: have a backup plan always until I get married. I've

918
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 2: been made before, but until I get made again, I'm

919
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: gonna have a backup plan. These niggas switch up too much.

920
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 2: That's another thing. Transgenders don't switch back and forward. This

921
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 2: motherfucker could be a man one month and a woman

922
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: in dan.

923
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: Well, I think with him he was just deceitful because

924
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: I have a lot of friends who are transgender, and

925
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: they are very like, very comfortable in their skin. Yeah,

926
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: I think that with him, what he did was very

927
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: fucked up. And I also think that he's taking advantage

928
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: of a community that already have a lot to fight for.

929
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: Exactly right.

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00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: I think that's what he did was very disgusting, and

931
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: I really do hate that that happened to you. But

932
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Speaker 1: I also think that I'm thankful that it did happen

933
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: to you, because at least you're being vocal about this

934
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: to spread awareness of what this person is doing. Yep,

935
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure everyone well who got common sense will

936
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: agree with this. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 1: you know, I appreciate you for sharing your story to

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Speaker 1: the listeners. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns,

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Speaker 1: please make sure to email me a hello at thepsgpodcast

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Speaker 1: dot com. And until next time, everyone, see y'all be

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