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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mediamash, a

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Speaker 1: roundtable of Cowboys insiders, dropping wisdom and offering sizzling takes

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Speaker 1: on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys. Now your host,

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Speaker 1: Steve Dennis, Welcome one and all to Mediamash on this Wednesday. Man,

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Speaker 1: it just feels so Christmas e it just does it? Jorry?

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Speaker 1: Do you feel Christmas eye? I don't tell a good day.

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Speaker 1: I thought all the holiday spirit we were the tacky

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Speaker 1: sweaters today. Should have warned mine down here, but no

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Speaker 1: one else on the show was got I being in

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Speaker 1: a Christmas carol? You want to join me to dreaming

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Speaker 1: of a way? Chris, try it, try it. Let's see, Clarence,

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Speaker 1: let's not say I looked for my tackie sweater. Clarence,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you. I'm not. I don't. That's so uncool.

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Speaker 1: It is Joy Fstein from USA Today. We are gathered

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Speaker 1: by beat writers on the beat of the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Jory is obviously on the beat for USA Today. Rob

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Speaker 1: Phillips with all Cowboys platforms, you can hear them on talking. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're talking Cowboys, which no, I'm just on the break,

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Speaker 1: the break, okay, Yeah, I was on the break in

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. That's why I get them all confused. My bad.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of them. You've been on talking cowboys

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Speaker 1: for quite a while, yes, and Nick Eaton has been

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Speaker 1: on the break for you. Listen to Rookie. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of them all day. And this is clarencey

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Speaker 1: Hill Junior from the four Worst Star Telegram. I just

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Speaker 1: watched you You're gonna love this on Twitter. I watched

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Speaker 1: you and mac Engele have a little conversation about the cowboys.

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Speaker 1: First time I caught that both of you looking so

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Speaker 1: old these days. What you guys saying? I mean, I

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Speaker 1: knew you guys when you're young. For crying out that

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Speaker 1: though max hair is getting all gray and your beard's

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Speaker 1: getting all gray like saying it. I mean I could,

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Speaker 1: I could diet, but I mean I choose not to

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Speaker 1: do to Micael Irvin and diet. All right, let's let's

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Speaker 1: mash up some cowboys topics on this Wednesday. No more singing.

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Speaker 1: I probably got to do that to Mike. Uh. I

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Speaker 1: heard the coaches uh Monday, and I thought that all

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Speaker 1: of you in the fabulous DFW media on the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: beat to a spectacular job this week. And I thought

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Speaker 1: that both both McCarthy on Monday and Quinn on Monday,

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Speaker 1: they both reiterated the phrase quote we like where we are,

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Speaker 1: three times. Quinn I think said it two times. Um.

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Speaker 1: So I thought that'd be a fun place to start

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Speaker 1: on this Wednesday because things changed over the week Ken

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Speaker 1: And by the way, it was the worst weekend of

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Speaker 1: NFL football in my life. You guys were busy. You

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Speaker 1: were in the big city looking at the tree and

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Speaker 1: all that. Trust me, the games were awful this past weekend,

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Speaker 1: all of them for everybody in fantasy football championship games.

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Speaker 1: Nobody scored any points. It was, I mean, because of

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Speaker 1: all the COVID issues and the mindset or something. It

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Speaker 1: was just the lowest intensity week I think I've ever

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Speaker 1: witnessed in the NFL. But where are the Cowboys? They

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Speaker 1: like where they are, so let's have a little discussion

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Speaker 1: about where they are and how they got here. Maybe

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Speaker 1: than many of you fans do, which is odd. But

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Speaker 1: the weekend. That didn't happen. All they need is a

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Speaker 1: that's something that's something right joy, Yeah, I think it's

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Speaker 1: if it's not the ultimate goal. It is relevant, and

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Speaker 1: So that's the message. But McCarthy's right, they have reason

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Speaker 1: He's already assumed division title he's already assuming playoffs. This

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Speaker 1: it's about the number one seed. Let's just keep climbing

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Speaker 1: He made you re ask the questions, right, did you

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Speaker 1: but that's how good they feel about where they are.

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Speaker 1: If Green Bay Stuffs is told the Cowboys went out,

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Speaker 1: guess what, they're the number one seed. Yeah, and we'll

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Speaker 1: is struggling right now. It's all in the Cowboy favor.

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Speaker 1: It's very doable. Really, with now that we only have

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Speaker 1: three games left in front of us, it's somewhat doable.

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Speaker 1: And even when they were six and one and playing

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Speaker 1: that doable. Yeah. In fairness to Mike Clarence, hey, why

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Speaker 1: they are so specific which part of that locker rooms

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Speaker 1: All right, we're back on media mash. Jury's here, Rob

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Speaker 1: Phillips is here, Clarence E. Hill Juniors here, my name

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Speaker 1: is Steve Danni's all right, Here we go the tough

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Speaker 1: topics Number one. I'm just gonna throw it out there.

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Speaker 1: Jury gets to go first because she leaned into And

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Speaker 1: can I say one thing first? Because you brought up negative?

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Speaker 1: But can I go first? No? No, no, not on

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Speaker 1: the topics here. You're missing the point here. Just down, um, simmerdownown.

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Speaker 1: It's not about being negative because people are were You're

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Speaker 1: always negative. Career people always call me negative. I'm not negative.

441
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Speaker 1: I keep it real. I'm honest. I'm not a sunshine pumper.

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00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not about being negative. Your thing was

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Speaker 1: come to negative. It's not about being negative, about being

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Speaker 1: honest and take an honest deal with doing It's about

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Speaker 1: the truth is you see it. It's not negative, right

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Speaker 1: And and I happen to be a sunshine pumper right now.

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Speaker 1: The last time I was this was twenty fourteen, and

448
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: they were so close to doing something that you broke

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Speaker 1: all right. Topic number one the disconnect. The disconnect if

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Speaker 1: there is one between Dak and his three supposed one

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Speaker 1: thousand yard wide receivers. How big a deal is this disconnect?

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Speaker 1: Jewry's first, Yeah, I think it's a big deal. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a big deal, not because they're incapable of

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Speaker 1: fixing him, but because it has gone on for as

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Speaker 1: long as it has. In their tone, I will say,

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Speaker 1: I think that we saw a little bit of improvement

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Speaker 1: against the Giants. There were a couple plays and we

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Speaker 1: asked Kellen about this when Dak was scrambled outside the

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Speaker 1: pocket and it worked at the Giants that I'm like,

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Speaker 1: this is really key because we saw similar situations at

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Speaker 1: Washington where he just was not able to get out

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Speaker 1: of the pocket. He wasn't able to make the throw.

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Speaker 1: But they need more of that connection. And I think

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Speaker 1: that as we mentioned the fact that your two touchdowns

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Speaker 1: came when what was it, I mean, the defense is

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Speaker 1: giving you the interception, and then it was a turn

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Speaker 1: of one down. Yeah, so both of them were like

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Speaker 1: super short fields and then they had other They did

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Speaker 1: have some nice drives. I can't remember what it was,

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Speaker 1: something like a six and a half minute drive seventy

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Speaker 1: five yards and they just couldn't finish it. So I think, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so if you want to win in the playoffs, I

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Speaker 1: think you need to be able to finish those drives.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying you have to finish everyone. And

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Speaker 1: Deck has said this with like a couple of these

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Speaker 1: go a different way. We're having a different conversation, but

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Speaker 1: you need to be able to show that you can

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Speaker 1: go the length of the field and score and not

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Speaker 1: care what the defense is giving you. Because we went

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Speaker 1: from where pick your poison offense too, we're going to

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Speaker 1: aggressively take what the defense gives us to the defenses

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Speaker 1: making us be patient and put a cap on it.

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Speaker 1: And if you keep moving in that direction, you're not

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Speaker 1: going to be able to do what you want to do.

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Speaker 1: And you have way too much talent to have those limitations.

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Speaker 1: I think it's I agree, it's very important, and especially

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Speaker 1: with the way defenses are playing you, like Clarence alluded

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Speaker 1: to it before the break, they are putting a cap

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Speaker 1: on things, like Jory just said, And so when that happens.

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Speaker 1: Number one, you got to run the football. Did a

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Speaker 1: better job of that last week. It's starting to creep up.

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Speaker 1: They're getting better. Zeke looks healthier. That's encourage. But then

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Speaker 1: you got to hit on the big plays that are there,

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Speaker 1: and they didn't do that enough in that game. Like

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Speaker 1: like Chill said, Dak's numbers would have been better. He

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Speaker 1: might have hit three hundred yards in that game. If

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Speaker 1: Gallup doesn't, you know, that throw got lost. Maybe in

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Speaker 1: the win that deep throw that they made, CD had

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Speaker 1: a explosive pass play he should have made dropped it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he was trying to one hand

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Speaker 1: it in that in that situation try to one hand

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Speaker 1: two that he should have used two hands on and

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Speaker 1: he dropped one when he two handed, Well have you

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Speaker 1: won hand two? Is that like two handing one? So

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Speaker 1: you get credit for the reception, But if they're if

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Speaker 1: they're going to make you do that, drive the length

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Speaker 1: of the field and play back and zone all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: When when you have an opportunity to thread it in there,

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Speaker 1: you got it because you only get a handful of

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Speaker 1: those a game probably. And by the way, the one

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Speaker 1: to the one to CD. Stop, No, this is listen

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Speaker 1: to me. No, I'm not I'm blaming Dak. I know

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Speaker 1: you've been That's my point. The point is the disconnect

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00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: was very much alive on that play because CD was

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Speaker 1: wide open and Dak made it difficult catch which one

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Speaker 1: the one with two hands on the middle one where

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00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: he tried to grab it with his left hand out here.

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Speaker 1: Now I thought it was on the money. That was

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Speaker 1: on the money. No, no, it was not way out there.

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Speaker 1: You no, No, you should have hit him right in

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Speaker 1: stride and there. He doesn't always happen that way, but

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Speaker 1: he's a number one receiver. He supposed he will tell

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Speaker 1: you should have caught that ball. And he did. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he again, He said it again twice. You know, he dropped.

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Speaker 1: He called all of them drops and they were um.

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Speaker 1: But yes, they need to be have a better connection

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Speaker 1: with the passing. Certainly, you can't drop balls to find

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Speaker 1: a way. You gotta find a way to get Amar involved.

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Speaker 1: Maybe some of those slatches throw in the CD. You

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Speaker 1: need to get a Mari involved. Amari Cooper, you know

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Speaker 1: you remember him, um, But the way they're playing, they

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Speaker 1: they ran the ball better, but they didn't still have

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Speaker 1: a running well enough. No, I'd been as good as

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Speaker 1: early in the year. You know, when when when they're

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Speaker 1: playing shells and back and preventing a big play there,

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Speaker 1: they're plays to be made in the running game that

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Speaker 1: you should be able to eat on and they're not

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Speaker 1: doing that. I will say that the reinsertion of Connor

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Speaker 1: Williams at left guards seems like a really good I

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Speaker 1: also think that Connor McGovern in his fullback every little

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Speaker 1: bit of everything role is good. And the fact that

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Speaker 1: they were like, oh, Connor McGovern was covered in the

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Speaker 1: end zone, swee threw it to Dalton. Like if you

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Speaker 1: can get the defense to put all of that attention

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Speaker 1: on Connor McGovern, great. I want to stick on the

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Speaker 1: wide receivers just for a minute here, and and this

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Speaker 1: is this is what we call a tough topic. The

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Speaker 1: last five games, Amari Coopers, Amari Cooper has had two catches,

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Speaker 1: five catches, two catches, four catches, two catches. He's only

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00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: had more than five catches twice all season. Ceedee Lamb

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00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: has had eight games of more than five catches, and

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Speaker 1: that ain't good enough. I don't want to speaking of excuses.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear any now. I think Amari

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Speaker 1: Cooper is at five elite wide receiver, and I think

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Speaker 1: at some point down the road, because I'm mister sunshine

556
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: pumper right now, he will answer this and make plays

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00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: that matter. But I don't know what's going on with him.

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00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: What's what's going on with him? Is he getting double?

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00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: That a double team? Okay, okay, but it's not about that.

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Speaker 1: It is about okay, can I finish? Thank you? Uh,

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00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: he's getting bracketed, he's getting double. Listen to me, because

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Speaker 1: so Deck is going to the guys CD's in the slot,

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Speaker 1: so he's not outside the slot, the outside guys who

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Speaker 1: are not getting balls. The guy in the slot in

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Speaker 1: the tight end is the one where Deck is going

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Speaker 1: through the easier throwth for that. A lot of stuff

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00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: they were getting that game was crossers with CDs. More

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00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: about the game plan. You got to understand the game

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Speaker 1: playing plan for Ambari to touch the ball. More. They

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Speaker 1: talked it off in the cord and I'm going okay,

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Speaker 1: of course can run crossing routes too, Okay, Okay, as

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Speaker 1: a coordinator, I'm telling you the man has disappeared, and

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's based on the routes they're running

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Speaker 1: and how they're using him. I don't care. That's an excuse, okay.

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Speaker 1: And that the one who said you had faith in

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Speaker 1: the coordinators. So why do you have faith in what

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Speaker 1: Callen's doing with them? Mark? You want you really want

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Speaker 1: to hear my answer? Yes? See, Now I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: back to being the sunshine pumper. You just accused McCarthy

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Speaker 1: playing possum. I think they're playing possum right now. Stop.

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Speaker 1: The defenses are all doing the same thing. They know

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Speaker 1: how they're gonna beat it. They're not gonna do it

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Speaker 1: until it matters if one of these playoff teams tries

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Speaker 1: that on them, like Arizona. This offense is good enough

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Speaker 1: and talented enough and has the pieces to beat any defense. Agreed. Okay,

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Speaker 1: But but don't you think they need to try to

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Speaker 1: get stuff back going to God against Washington, against the Giants,

588
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: not against New Orleans. What they say, well, that such

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00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: an arrogant way to play. They're they're they're being patient.

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00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: You're you're wrong, They're being Maury Cooper is a good

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Speaker 1: enough receiver to being a double team. He has not

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Speaker 1: shown us consistently about the double team. Is about where

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Speaker 1: Deck is going with the ball because they see the

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Speaker 1: double Tea's not throwing it over there. Well, if they

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Speaker 1: play like this in a playoff game, Mark Cooper has

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Speaker 1: two catches, then they should lose. I don't think Kellen

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Speaker 1: is ripping up pages out of the playbook and hiding

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00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: it in a drawer right now. But I do think

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Speaker 1: there are certain situations like when they run the ball

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Speaker 1: on third down in the red zone and go ahead

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Speaker 1: and kick a field goal. I think, yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: they played a little safe when they feel like their

603
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: opponent these last three games can't score. Can't Yeah, seriously,

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Speaker 1: I think that's not trying not to score. And no,

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Speaker 1: I know I'm saying played a little more conservative because

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Speaker 1: you're whatever, you're not going to take a chance. But

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Speaker 1: those how many drives did they drive down in the

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Speaker 1: field in the red zone, They couldn't have to kick

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Speaker 1: field goals. Those are not situations where they were playing conservatives.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying there's just a difference in being situationally conservative

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Speaker 1: and just not trying pushing down the fear. Thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the disappearing Amari Cooper, Yeah, I think it's strange, and

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Speaker 1: I think again, like you need to know you can

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Speaker 1: depend on him. I could see him having a big

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Speaker 1: day this weekend because he has traditionally played very well

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Speaker 1: against the NFC East in his time with the Cowboys,

617
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: and very well at home. But you want to know

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Speaker 1: that if you go to Green Bay you can rely

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Speaker 1: on him, and you need I know that. Dax says

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Speaker 1: he's got the confidence in all of them, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not doubting that, but he should continue like this is

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Speaker 1: a what have you done for me lately? League, and

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Speaker 1: you should continue to show your quarterback why he should

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Speaker 1: have confidence in you. I also think as it relates

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Speaker 1: to their game planning, I do agree that if they're

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Speaker 1: up by two or three scores, they're not going to

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Speaker 1: be pulling out their best play right now, because you

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Speaker 1: want to say that for the playoffs, even though Callen

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Speaker 1: kind of denied that when we asked him that this week,

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Speaker 1: but I do think there's something to be said of

631
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Speaker 1: like if you get too arrogant with that and you lose.

632
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: Like this team will be better off if you can

633
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Speaker 1: get two or three home games in the postseason than

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Speaker 1: just one. So and and and just piggyback on that

635
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: the the fumble he had at the end of that game.

636
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: So I did they're being conservative. They don't. Dak was

637
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 1: trying to make a big play till Mari. He admitted that,

638
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get to buy to Mar he didn't

639
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: see the defense of being coming the backside with each other,

640
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: taken a safer throw that was right in front of him. They're,

641
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: you know, playing possible and not trying to They're trying

642
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: to get big. They understand they're frustrating themselves with this

643
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: offense and not get them think so, okay whatever and

644
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: why why why is he chatting putting the Giants back

645
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: in the game and fumbling the ball with in the

646
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: fourth quarter because that's not the case because they can't

647
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: score U okay real quick? Uh. Something else Kellen said

648
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,239
Speaker 1: was that they're interested in distributing the ball. We had

649
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: eight guys touched the ball. That's good. When the playoffs start,

650
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: he will not have that mentality. I guarantee you they

651
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: will pick on whatever they need to pick on. Amari

652
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: may get seven catches in a row if that's working.

653
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: So that's nonsense that he doesn't care about distribution to

654
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: eight guys. Otherwise he'd wonder why Dalton's disappeared for most

655
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: of the seasons. And now all of a sudden, Well,

656
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: let's just go ahead and take advantage of this. I

657
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: guarantee you of Mari cares about his numbers. We talked

658
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: before the season. He wants to be known as a

659
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: guy that has doubled in the touchdowns least league and catches.

660
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: He knows, he talked last week about I've been talking

661
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: to that about getting me the ball. He cares about

662
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: his numbers. Okay, he knows he only had two catches.

663
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: He cares about his production. And he's got what's he got?

664
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: How many touchdowns does he have? Six? Six? They both

665
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 1: have six. Yeah, he's six eighty three yards and six touchdowns. Yeah.

666
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: And to your comment, and I heard you and Mac

667
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: going on, it's so much for the thousand yard three

668
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: thousand yard wide receivers, and Mari is the problem. Because

669
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: Gallup and Wilson you gotta add together, don't you know.

670
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: I mean there's not three. But no, we galloped this

671
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: half the year, gallup understanding that you don't. You're playing

672
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: funny numbers. What I'm saying is CD's gonna get a thousand. Yeah,

673
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: gallop with Wilson. Three fifty six eight are gonna be closed. Mario,

674
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: how many catches hit? Does he have? Three? Right? He

675
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: had ninety eight ninety last three years. His catches are

676
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: way down. Nobody's talking about it. He's an elite. That

677
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: is the way down wide receiver. I mean they're not

678
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: talking about it because they can't fix it right now. Yeah,

679
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: they're not trying. They're playing. So I have a random

680
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: niche question I'm going to throw in here. Come so

681
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: I know this whole idea of them like switching their

682
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: left tackles between Tynasecki and Terrence Steele, and Terrence has

683
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: us experience, but they like what they've gotten him. There

684
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: is some idea of Terrence's better run blocking and tie

685
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: it's better against the past. But if you do that,

686
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: aren't you kind of tipping your hand to which you

687
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: plan to do more of that series? And wouldn't you

688
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: not want to do that? Yeah? And I mean they

689
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: had drives where they mixed it up and they still

690
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: went with Innseki. So yeah, but the bigger picture for

691
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: me is that five weeks ago, Terrenstale is planned so well,

692
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: so well that leoll Collins can't get a job back. Now,

693
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: Terrence Still, it's not pass blocking well enough that we

694
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: gotta Aldy with tiding to Secky. Something wrong here, Yeah,

695
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: but that was that was that was right tackle, not

696
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: left That's true. I mean, but what you hear what

697
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You kept Leo Collins, who is a better

698
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: right tackle down. He got the job, okay, and Connor

699
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: Williams got the job. He was playing so well that

700
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: we're not gonna give Leo Collins a job back. You

701
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,479
Speaker 1: know you were punishing. Let's be honest about this. Terrence

702
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: Still was never better than Leo Collins a right tackle. No,

703
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 1: but that's right tackle point. You should have put Leo

704
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: Collins back in there from the beginning. Even after that,

705
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: you wouldn't. We started uh Terence Still again two weeks

706
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: later after Kancers game. Remember at right tackle. Why are

707
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: we doing this? No? I don't disagree with you, that's

708
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: why why are we doing Why are we playing musical chairs?

709
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: We don't have to. You're putting yourself in until you

710
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: you're talking about the same facts football, you're talking about continuity,

711
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: but you purposely put yourself in this situation. Then you

712
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: held Connor Williams out longer than you should have a

713
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: left guard. And now we're going to the point where

714
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 1: you're alternating Terrence still and tying the second left tackle.

715
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: None of this makes sense. It's way different than last

716
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: year when Mike was saying that's we don't do that.

717
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: We don't rotate, we don't change a bunch of positions.

718
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: He but he did say if the performance, basically, if

719
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: the performance isn't there, we're gonna switch it around. And

720
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: they have not found the right mix that they want

721
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: yet maybe they have now, you know, but Tyrn is

722
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: not in the and even if it's left tackle, we've

723
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: seen tying the second play before this year, and the

724
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: idea that Terence is still better than him, that's still

725
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: worse in here. And that was tough Topic number three,

726
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: by the way, the confusion at the offensive line position. Now,

727
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: let's go to the topic two and backtrack head coach

728
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: decision making. Who's worried about it at this point in

729
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: the season. I'm not. I give McCartney credit for managing

730
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: his team because he's not. He's not the reason about

731
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: offensive struggling, Okay, and he's doing the right thing. He's

732
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: coaching this team to win. You talking about wins all

733
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: the day that matters. Three straight rold wins ever done

734
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: this since since sixty nine, We talked about this, We

735
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: talked about Arizona actually going and losing at Detroit. So

736
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Mike's primary focus is

737
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: to win the game. He's done that, and so I

738
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: give him credit for winning these games and making the

739
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: main thing the main thing while they're trying to fix things.

740
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: I'll say three things. One, you can't our youths December

741
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: record in Green Band even last year and this year

742
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: here despite the fact that last year was a tough year. Two,

743
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: I think the fact that they wanted New Orleans when

744
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: he had COVID and was how it actually says more

745
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: about the value he does have to the team and

746
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: the fact that he's just replaceable, because I think it's

747
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: a reflection of the way that he allowed everybody else

748
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: to do their jobs, still staying involved virtually throughout the week.

749
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: And Three, I think as it relates to that timeout

750
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 1: before halftime. He explained to us some of the numbers

751
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: with a threshold. He said, sometimes we're gonna want to

752
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: play aggressive, sometimes conservative. You don't want to give the

753
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: guy it's the ball back. It's not like they were

754
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,959
Speaker 1: scoring a lot of touchdowns that day, especially not ones

755
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: where they had made it there themselves. So I don't

756
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: think it's that crazy a decision. I think that's one

757
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: of the reasons why, though I understand coaches don't want

758
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: to say everything on the record explaining those things, It's like, okay,

759
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: maybe there was some logic to it. I mean, give

760
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: him credit. I mean, I mean, we can nitpick every

761
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: coaching decision making every game. Bill Belichick last week when

762
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: he set up for the field goal, you know, even

763
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,959
Speaker 1: the great Bill Belichick. We're gonna we're gonna nitpick decision making,

764
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: whether the field goal touch it would go for. You know.

765
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: Obviously the Baltimore coach has been you know, him going

766
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: for two instead of kicking an extra point and going

767
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: over time. Certainly the Charges coach, you know, did the

768
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: same thing. So those are gonna be there a game

769
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: and game out. But you have to give him credit.

770
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: How he's managed his team. Yeah, I was not against

771
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: him on that decision before the half. People forget the

772
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: possession before that. I got sacked right on third down

773
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: and lost twelve yards And now you're looking at a

774
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: forty two yard field goal when it was a chip shot.

775
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: And maybe that was in his mind because a lot

776
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: of things could have gone wrong there if they tried that,

777
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: they didn't have a time out left, if they took

778
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: that one, and if Dad gets sacked there, they don't

779
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 1: get the field goal or a lot of things could

780
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: have gone wrong. I don't understand while he's why he

781
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: is getting run nationally over that. I think that they're

782
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 1: making a huge big deal about it. I think there's

783
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: other endgame stuff you can point to this season be like,

784
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: I don't know about that that's happened, but that's a

785
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: lot of coaches. That's what I'm saying. I know, Yeah,

786
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: I mean the biggest thing for me, he talks about

787
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: play style all the time. When he was in Green Bay,

788
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: they won the turnover battle every single year and he's

789
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: dan Quinn has done an amazing job. But they started

790
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: you saw that last year even when they were struggling,

791
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: Like that's his imprint I mean they drilled the hell

792
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: out of takeaways, and I mean I think a lot.

793
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: He's an offensive minded coach, but I think that's part

794
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: of his fully that's working here. I will say that

795
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: Clarence and I remember Dave Campo spent a lot of

796
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: time on takeaways too. Whenever every coach and it didn't work. Yeah,

797
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: we went through but different hang Fucky Brooks wrote on

798
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: our website. He's covered the league forever. He said, I

799
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: have never in my twenty five years when I went

800
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: out to camp, I've never seen a team work on

801
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: as much as this team. Where I understand that, but

802
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: every coach I remember Marinelli, get to the ball, run

803
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: to the ball. We've they've done the takeaway drillf forever. Year. Yeah,

804
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: they couldn't get to the ball, but you also have

805
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: to have ball guys, okay, and so Byron Jones, great cornerback,

806
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: he can't take nothing away and never took anything away,

807
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: and all of years this year in Diggs may not

808
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: have a great as great as a cornerback, coverage great

809
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: as uh as Barron Jones. He takes the ball away

810
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: as part of his DNA. Brandon, I think that's part

811
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: of it. Too, part of the two. But they also

812
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: done a better job protecting it too. And I know

813
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: in Green Bayron Rodgers is an all time great and everything.

814
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: But you know the bottom line is they're doing a

815
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: better job in Brandy car brand and burning here. They

816
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't have ten interception is everybody how they drilled it.

817
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: But they were getting it last year. They were getting

818
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: last year too, even when they didn't have Trayvon would

819
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: have three picks last year. I mean you know, I

820
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: mean it in Quinn that was the time when that

821
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: was career hots around here. That's Jeff Jeff Heath led

822
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: the team a couple of years, all right, real, real quick. Yeah,

823
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: they go a couple of minutes on this. How comfortable

824
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: are all three of you? If you're getting more comfortable

825
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: or not? Tell me the old Warrior and the young

826
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: explosive back, the duo, the running back duo. Is it

827
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: shaping into any kind of form for you? I think

828
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: they're definitely getting their health back. I think that we're

829
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 1: talking about Zeke and Tony Pollard, right, you got so

830
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: like a little bit he's the old Warrior to me, Yes, yes, yeah,

831
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: I would say so that they're getting their health back.

832
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: I think that Zeke has really found something good in

833
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: the knee brace he's been wearing to give him stability

834
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: with his knee, because that's the thing. It's not about

835
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: healing in December and football. That's not realistic, unfortunately. It's

836
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: about managing it and trying to understand what you can

837
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: do and how best to do it. He's figured that out.

838
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: Tony's got the explosive. We saw some great plays from

839
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: him last week, and I think the coaching staff is

840
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: right to manage it a little bit, because, yes, that

841
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: fifty eight air touchdown in New Orleans was beautiful, he

842
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: also tore his planner fashion on it, so I think

843
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: you kind of have to balance it. But what we

844
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: saw with some of the plays where they were pushing

845
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846
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847
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: everyone was behind him, I think that they're scheming it

848
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Speaker 1: better in terms of the way the blocking is working.

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Speaker 1: And I think that we saw both of those guys

850
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: had some success. I will say though, like the fact

851
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Speaker 1: that they got nothing going in the second half and

852
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Speaker 1: then when I asked Kellen about it, he was like, yeah,

853
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: they were kind of crashing the ends more Again, who

854
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Speaker 1: cares like that's fine if that wreck some of your plays,

855
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: Why is it wrecking all of your plays? Because I

856
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Speaker 1: believe they had one hundred one rushing yards in the

857
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: first half and twenty four in the second. So you

858
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: need to be able to sustain a little bit longer

859
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: so you don't lose games the rest of you. Yeah. No,

860
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if if Tony's numbers or his touches

861
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: are up from last year previously in his career, but

862
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: I think they recognize that they need his dynamic ability

863
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,520
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864
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,960
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865
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: think he's they recognize they need more of him. He

866
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: needs to be more involved, and you're seeing it. When

867
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868
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 1: think that's important. I mean, again, Zeke has been better

869
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870
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Speaker 1: that we saw earlier in the season. But I'd like

871
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872
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873
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Speaker 1: sharing carrys. It's been in the loaded at the beginning,

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876
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Speaker 1: going to continue to do that now. And you know,

877
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Speaker 1: maybe you know, you may see Tony get some more

878
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879
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: because he is healthier and more explosive for the team.

880
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: But you need Zeke his ability to pass block, certainly,

881
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:03,239
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882
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883
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Speaker 1: announce in a ridiculously slow moving show. As I remember

933
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Speaker 1: it slowly announced the Pro Bowl, uh participants through the vote.

934
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Speaker 1: Not as slow moving as the college football playoffs. Oh,

935
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Speaker 1: I know, well they four hours for two games. Yeah,

936
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Speaker 1: it's it's yeah, I'm with you. Sorry, go ahead, all right,

937
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: So here's what I'm thinking, and then you guys go

938
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: with it. However you want to, Micah, Zach tray von

939
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: our shoe INDs your turn. Did you tease Zeke or

940
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: was that off the air? I'm going to discuss that

941
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,959
Speaker 1: in a minute. I did tease that. I was gonna

942
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 1: ask you guys, who else could possibly I expect those

943
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: four with ze Do you do think Zeke will maker?

944
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: I agree? Wow? Do you? I thinks those four are

945
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: certainly shoeins? For sure? You think Zeke's a shoe in? No,

946
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: those three? I'm sorry and I think that I think that.

947
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: Um uh, I guess Zeke's the possibility just because of

948
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, limited options. He's tied for second into the

949
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: conferences in rushing, Yeah, with Gibson, because nobody does Gibson

950
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: make it? How many backs make it? Two? Three? Three?

951
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, So Dalvin Cook's making it. You can

952
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: make a case for Cordarrel Patterson even though he's a

953
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 1: wide receiver playing running back, but he's had a good

954
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: year for Atlanta. And then after that it's Zeke. James

955
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: Connors come on with numbers late, Yeah, but the voting

956
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: is probably done before James Conner. It's crazy that his

957
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: yard he's got the most touchdowns among running backs in

958
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: the NFC at fourteen, and then yardage he is where

959
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: is he down here? Eighth? But you know, I mean,

960
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: I think that one Zeke has been productive, particularly early

961
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: in the season, which these votes keew earlier to the

962
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: season rather than what you're doing in December. And also

963
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: there's a degree of popularity contest, and the more you

964
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl, the easier it is to make

965
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: it back, if we're being honest. So I think all

966
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: of that will work to Zeke's favorite. But I don't

967
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 1: think this is whe those He's just like if Tyrn

968
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: Smith were to make the Pro Bowl this year, it

969
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: would be more on his history than his play this year.

970
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: I would say this that leonarfo Naga heard the other night.

971
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: I think the voting was done. I think he's a

972
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: guy who probably would make it based on he obviously

973
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: couldn't play, but I think he's a guy that that

974
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: will probably make it. And Kamara could too, even though

975
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: he missed four games. He was having a hell of

976
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: a year before he got hurt. He could make it,

977
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,959
Speaker 1: and he's a perennial so um, you know, I would

978
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: make a case for Zeke only because I think his

979
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: season this year was kind of about what I believe

980
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl should be about. I mean, the man's

981
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: been a warrior. He never left the field when he

982
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: could very easily have missed four games. These other guys

983
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: are coming and going, not Zeke. He is in there

984
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: fighting for his team, and there's a lot of value

985
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: in that on this team because Tony is not. Tony

986
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: is exploded. He's a he's a fine running back, but

987
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 1: he's not the complete back Zeke is. This team needs Zeke.

988
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 1: He's a bit of a backbone guy and he never

989
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: left the field. And I think that's Pro Bowl worthy,

990
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 1: just the warrior nature of twenty one. Pos about production,

991
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: I think it's production. Steve is wrong, but that's okay.

992
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the guys that are shoe ends, you know,

993
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: as we've only got a few minutes left. You know,

994
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: we can argue by Zeke. You know, we don't know

995
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: if I mean, if Zeke doesn't make it, it won't

996
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: be an injustice. They won't be an injustice. You know.

997
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: If he makes it, fine, I thought you Now I

998
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: mean again limited options, But again I think Leonardournette makes

999
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: it over Zeke. Uh. But let's talk about the guys.

1000
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: Michael Rookie Pro Bowl, you know, digs Pro Bowl. You know,

1001
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: certainly Zack Martin, the steady guy on the line, another

1002
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Every time he plays a full season, he

1003
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: makes the Pro Bowl. Yeah, with Mica, he'd be the

1004
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: fourth defensive rookie on this franchise ever to do this,

1005
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: and then the last one that did it. You know,

1006
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: we hopefully won't be the decline like the last one.

1007
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: Layton Vanderesh was the third in twenty eighteen. But I

1008
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 1: think it's even more impressive because he didn't play football

1009
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: last year. It's crazy. It's crazy that he opted out.

1010
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 1: He worked out on his own in LA. He comes

1011
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: into the NFL and he just he just dominates. It's crazy.

1012
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: And let's let's extrapolate that because not just Pro Bowl,

1013
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 1: First Team out Pro for him and Diggs, you would think, so, yeah,

1014
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 1: you know, the Pro Bowl today, end of the season,

1015
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: those two guys the first team out Pro Digs. Shoot,

1016
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: we have a first team out. Proud even though it

1017
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: seems like such a given that some of these guys

1018
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: are gonna make it, we still have to remember that

1019
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: a year ago the Cowboys had zero Pro Bowl or switches.

1020
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl is not the number one goal you want,

1021
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 1: but it is a reflection of the type of talent

1022
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: you have and the way the talents is being used.

1023
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: And then you're also not only did you have no

1024
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl ors on either side of the ball, you

1025
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: have this awful defense that was losing games and now

1026
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: they're winning games for this team and sadly, and this

1027
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: is sadly, there's the time when we talked about Dak

1028
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: Prescott being MVP. Yeah, and now we're not. Now we're

1029
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: not even talking about beating him. One or two or

1030
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks that that get picked for the Pro Bowl.

1031
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: Just he just had a stretch where he hasn't played

1032
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: up to his I know, I'm just saying, though, but

1033
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: that's that that that's just the reflection of what's going on.

1034
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: And you're saying and you're saying that I think Murray

1035
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: is still gonna see this, and you're saying, but the

1036
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: fact that you the fact that you're saying that they're

1037
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 1: playing possible and Dak went from m VP to not even,

1038
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: I don't think that's playing past. Think there's no way,

1039
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: there's no way Dex's looking at the number. Yeah, I'm

1040
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: gonna play possible. I'm gonna, you know, put up some

1041
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: effort numbers for five straight week. Quick comment before we

1042
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: go to your CD question. The thing that amazes me

1043
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: about Micah and it's everything for all of us, but

1044
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 1: when's the last time a player showed up in Dallas

1045
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: and you can't say a single bad thing about him

1046
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: going to week sixteen. I mean, he's a rookie. You know.

1047
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: Usually you say, oh, yeah, he's great, this blah blah,

1048
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: and then he yeah. But there is no butt with

1049
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 1: this guy. He has not really had anything that gives

1050
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: you pause that doesn't reflect greatness. If there is, I

1051
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Speaker 1: missed it. What's funny is that I have not had

1052
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: anything to complain about, but you have because do you

1053
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: remember that, oh yeah, when he played with social media

1054
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm talking about as a football. Zeke questioned by Zeke

1055
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: as the football player twenty six. He was we we

1056
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: have a question by Zach Martin as the football player

1057
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: as a rookie. That's a different situation. There was not

1058
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: I think what you're talking about. How splashy he is

1059
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: too o. Zach Martin was flashy just you know, did

1060
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: pancakes pleassy? Yeah, it's a hard he was splash sunshine,

1061
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: pumpers and pancakes flashy the title of the show. I

1062
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: mean that play on Gala Day was off the charts. Yeah,

1063
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: the closing speed Now, now, not to understand where you

1064
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: need to be, but to get there. That was a

1065
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: touchdown they were going to take the lead. But to

1066
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: understand two because when we asked Mike about this play today,

1067
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: he was like, look, I think you need common sense

1068
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 1: when you play football. Of guys running on guarded, you

1069
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: got to go after him. And obviously we all agree

1070
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 1: with that, but they are just so many times, especially

1071
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: last year, that this defense like guys go off like that.

1072
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: That was just Okay, back to your CD question. You

1073
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: got Cup, You've got Godwin, You've got Davante Adams, You've

1074
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: got Jefferson. You're out of spots. Are how many receivers.

1075
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: Do you get I think four? I don't know. Hell,

1076
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: who pays attention to the Pro Bowl? Watch the show

1077
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: at seven, they'll they'll tell you. But I think it's four.

1078
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: Isn't a chill four wide receivers from the NFC? I

1079
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: think it's three, But then they add somebody or whatever.

1080
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: Maybe it's four and it's you know, yeah, I think

1081
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: it's first team? Is second team? I guess you get

1082
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: get four? Yeah too, but you know it's gonna be

1083
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: two running backs. What about the puny? The punter may

1084
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: make it. I haven't loved rankings. Is he first in there?

1085
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: He's way up there? Yeah? Is that a hell of

1086
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: a year? He could be a special teamer to make

1087
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: it cud? What about I mean, any any other possibility?

1088
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: I think I think Kers should get more attention for this,

1089
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: But you don't think he'll make I think it's yeah,

1090
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, but the fact that he never comes

1091
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 1: off the field, and he has been so vital, even

1092
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: if the stats didn't always show it to the biggest

1093
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 1: turnaround on defense any team has had in the league.

1094
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: I think the problem the bar year is that he

1095
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: came from nowhere, so he had no no name reck.

1096
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: There's not a resume there, I get yeah, and so

1097
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: he'll get his love next year if he continued this though,

1098
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: because they had no name recognition this year to get

1099
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Yeah, all right, we've only got a few

1100
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 1: more minutes here again. I told you what I thought

1101
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: of this weekend watching football. It was a disaster. I

1102
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: don't there's a lot of distractions, a lot of things

1103
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: happening across the league. I commend them for doing what

1104
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: they could, but I will say this is anybody else

1105
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: tired of watching Washington play football? We had to watch

1106
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 1: him last night, We had to watch him last week.

1107
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: Now we got to watch him again Sunday night. That

1108
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: team is tough to watch. We gotta watch him again

1109
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: with maybe Garrett Gilbert. Ah, that'd be fun at quarterback.

1110
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: Heineki Allen will be back around. You think they will?

1111
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: One will clear? How do you think Gilbert did last night?

1112
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: Pretty damn good for the fact that they said on

1113
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: the broadcast that he was given a baby a bath

1114
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: when they called and said, hey, get up here, Yeah,

1115
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: so he goes, what for? What what do you what

1116
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: do you mean? Get up here? Just fresh off of

1117
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: the practice squad of New England. Yeah, yeah, I'm happy

1118
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, did you get you guys have relationships

1119
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: with him? Is he a good dude? Garrett? The problem

1120
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: is was all doing COVID, so yeah, I'd have much

1121
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: barely seen him in person. I was rooting for him

1122
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: because of his cowboy time here, I guess. But man,

1123
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: we got to watch this team again. I'm so done

1124
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: with the Washington football team and they're not going to

1125
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: make the playoffs now. The Eagle showed you last night

1126
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: that they're just a little notch better with all the

1127
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: injuries that Washington has struggled with. Anyway, I wanted to

1128
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: say that you guys get to watch him again up

1129
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: close on Sunday. Enjoy that tonight game like you guys

1130
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: will be dozing in the second quarters, Clarence. Does he

1131
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: snore when he dozes? Any Christmas thoughts before we say

1132
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: goodbye tonight? Any anybody have a Christmas thought they'd like

1133
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: to throw out there? Anything you want me to sing again?

1134
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: I will please, No, I won't God, but I could

1135
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: Clarence any any holiday thoughts joy not Christmas. Well. A

1136
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: bunch of the players were asked their favorite gifts, and

1137
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: I want to say who was it that said he

1138
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: got a bunch of remote controlled cars and he was

1139
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: really excited when he got the one that you could

1140
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: crash and it's still keeps driving that Yeah, CD City

1141
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: Lot got a lot of Christmas gifts carrying up. His

1142
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: favorite were the cool gray Elevens, the Jordans that he

1143
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: got a few years ago and then Dak gave them

1144
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: to him again this year. It's interesting, you know, what

1145
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: was your favorite president growing up? Chill? You know, I

1146
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: just want one. I don't want to say, well, there

1147
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: was so manny it could have been or could have

1148
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: man I was into the race tracks. You know they

1149
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: should come down and play with, you know, the racetracks

1150
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: and you know you put them together and putting stickers

1151
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: on them and racing your cars off they you and

1152
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: everything else. Do we have any pictures of baby Clarence

1153
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: playing with the racetrack? Do not? Somewhere somewhere in mama's house,

1154
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: Baby Clarence. That should be a sitcom? What Baby Sheldon

1155
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: or whatever's coming? Rob? You favorite favorite gift? Batman stuff?

1156
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: Oh you're a Batman guy? Oh yeah? The batmobile mean too? Yeah? Hell? Yeah?

1157
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: You know what my favorite president was? I was a

1158
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: eleven years old and my mom got me a radio

1159
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: and I earphone every night, and that's how I became

1160
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: the huge music fan that I am today. I name

1161
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: I Can Name you the top forty in nineteen seventy one,

1162
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: seventy two, seventy three, I just listened to music. Baby,

1163
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: that's my favorite present? You your favorite Hanakah gift over

1164
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: the years? Oh no, that's a good question. One I

1165
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: remember again. I don't know if it was birthday hanker

1166
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: or what, but I got this like Lisa Frank, which

1167
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: is a super rainbow stationary themed notebook journal situation, and

1168
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: like decided I was going to write a book when

1169
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: I was like eight, and then wrote this story. It

1170
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: was not very exciting and then I had no drama,

1171
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: but I still have the rainbow colored pages and there's

1172
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: like probably twelve words per page, but it's like a

1173
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,919
Speaker 1: hundred page story. Are you dreamed of writing a book

1174
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: when you were eight and you did it when you

1175
01:00:54,920 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: were like twenty four? Roughly? It's amazing, not bad. I

1176
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,439
Speaker 1: always knew I was gonna be a I always wanted

1177
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: to be a big mouth on TV. I didn't I

1178
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: wasn't successful at it, but I did it? What about you, Clarence?

1179
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: Was your dream too? You don't always say that. Sometimes

1180
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: dreams always end like you want them to, but they

1181
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: end like they should. You know, I dreamed of, you know,

1182
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: being Tonto door set O. Yeah, didn't have a handstrap

1183
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: is not the point, though. My point is though that

1184
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: was my dream. I mean, I love sports and not

1185
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: dreamed about being I don't know what you said, she said,

1186
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: an how did it go? How's it going? Well? It

1187
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: ended up that I'm not Tonty door set but I

1188
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: get to work at Texas Stadium writing about the Cowboys

1189
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: every Sunday. All right, real quick. It didn't end up

1190
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: like I wanted, two, but it end up like it

1191
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: should have. Did you you be quiet for a minute

1192
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: for you, for the sake of my dream, for the

1193
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: sake of you two. No. No, because I'm gonna tell

1194
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: him something. I'm gonna tell him something about your dream.

1195
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: You guys have to. It was nineteen ninety nine and

1196
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: we had a huge Miller Lite flag football game, the

1197
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: podcasters versus the writers. I was trying to see training camp.

1198
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: It was a big deal. I was the coach of

1199
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: the broadcasters. He was the coach of the writers. We

1200
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: held news conferences. We really made this a big deal.

1201
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: And this one kept telling us how bad he was

1202
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: gonna torch us. He kept for two weeks. We're hearing

1203
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna smoke you guy, and we're laughing at him.

1204
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: And when that game started, you should have seen this

1205
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: guy in action. He was awesome until his Hams training

1206
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: went and he went face first, and but he goes

1207
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: eighty yards for a touchdown untouched, with ridiculous speed, and

1208
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: we're going, oh my god. And then he got the

1209
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: ball again, Bam, he goes again. All of us are

1210
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: going he said he would do it and look at it.

1211
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: And then we got Babel Offenburg and Moose on our

1212
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: team and they ran a little wheel route and beat him.

1213
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: But it was beautiful. Proud of you. He was awesome,

1214
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 1: He really was. He was awesome. You talk about the

1215
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: two years later, San Antonio, when you had a little

1216
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: hot shot soccer player from PENNS. I didn't play in

1217
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: that game because I had a big golf tournament. I

1218
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: had to drive you back. But you pumped him up.

1219
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: Matt Lafferty, who worked at some Sunshine pump. He was

1220
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: an All American at Penn State and I I said,

1221
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: wait to see this kid play, and he underperformed. No

1222
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: Lafferty us killed you and I'll wait. Bye bye, Hey,

1223
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: Rookie was there, Rookie that may not have been completely

1224
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: but by Rookie c Hey. Rookie was a big player

1225
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: on the broadcast team too. All Right, we gotta go.

1226
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: We gotta go. Sack Clarence like ten times that. There

1227
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: you go, there you go. All right, we're gonna do

1228
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: it again tomorrow. We've got Mashouda and Nick Eatman and

1229
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: we may just have a threesome tomorrow for the first

1230
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: time uh this year on media mash so'll check us

1231
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: out at four o'clock. Thank you guys for letting me

1232
01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:00,439
Speaker 1: talk cowboys with you again. Enjoy the Washington game. You'll

1233
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:04,479
Speaker 1: be snoring in the second quarter. Chill everybody, say Merry

1234
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: Christmas and bye ready, Merry Christmas, and happy Hanka and

1235
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: goodbye bye. That you told us to say one thing

1236
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: and then we said, yeah, Merry Christmas. Piece christ has

1237
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 1: been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the

1238
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Football Club.