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Speaker 1: Welcome to Katie's Crib, a production of Shonda Land Audio

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Speaker 1: in partnership with I Heart Radio. That night, my husband

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Speaker 1: the phone. I was like, it's the doctor and she

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Speaker 1: confirms we're pregnant. And I was like, okay, so that's great.

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Speaker 1: We're still pregnant. That's good. And then she's like, I

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Speaker 1: see two embryos, and I think I just blocked out

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Speaker 1: and I just was like, so that's is that good?

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Speaker 1: It is all happening so fast. She was just like,

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Speaker 1: she's like, I'm pretty sure it's twins. We fell to

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Speaker 1: the floor. We couldn't and that's when I was like,

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Speaker 1: we can't afford them. Hello everybody, and welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Katie's Crib. Today we have the one and only Sisson

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Speaker 1: e Via Clara. I love her. She's pregnant at the

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Speaker 1: time of this recording with twins. Do you guys know

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Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with twins. We've done twins a topic and

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Speaker 1: guess what, we can never get enough twins. So here

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Speaker 1: we are. We talk about her twin, pregnancy, her postpartum

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Speaker 1: depression journey, which you know is near and dear to

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Speaker 1: my heart. How Sisny and her husband Michael differ and

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Speaker 1: are similar in parenting styles, and how the kids reacted

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Speaker 1: to the baby being a girl. Sissy. I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of people know her voice because she's the co

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Speaker 1: host of Ryan Seacrest's show On Air with Ryan on

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Speaker 1: Kiss FM, Los Angeles hit music radio station. She also

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Speaker 1: hosts her own podcast called Twinning with Sisany and is

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Speaker 1: broadcast credits include San Diego's Music station's KHTS channel and KUSS.

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Speaker 1: Sissny has been a TV correspondent friend bcs C A

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Speaker 1: live shows, which chair's weekdays. She's also filled in like

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Speaker 1: Me for Kelly Rip a few times for the nationally

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Speaker 1: televised talk show Live with Kelly and Ryan. Seceny lives

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Speaker 1: in California. She enjoys being a first tom mom to

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Speaker 1: fraternal wins that we're going to talk so much about,

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Speaker 1: named Asa and max In, and she finally had her

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Speaker 1: baby girl this summer. Her baby girl's name is Cinthia.

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Speaker 1: Used to via Clock, Sissany welcome to Pet's PRIs. Yeah, guys,

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Speaker 1: this is very exciting. I have to tell you we

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Speaker 1: have the incredible Sisseny on here today. Hi. Hi, sissny Um.

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Speaker 1: Sycidney and I are fans of each other. We've done

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Speaker 1: podcasts swap Rooney's and I'm such a fan of Siany

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Speaker 1: because those who are listening, um, but don't know this story.

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Speaker 1: When I was like, oh, just such a struggling artist

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Speaker 1: and was dropping off catering gigs at five o'clock in

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Speaker 1: Ryan on the radio to get me through, and then

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Speaker 1: I would like listen to you guys all day, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm pretty sure Sissany and Ryan Seacrest are

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Speaker 1: the hardest working people in Hollywood. And it's true. So

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Speaker 1: we've got a lot of mommy ing to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we do. Can you tell me how did

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Speaker 1: twins happen to you? Like, wasn't it? It's not an

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Speaker 1: IVF thing, This is right. This was like you got

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Speaker 1: Pardy with twins. It was not IVF. It was all natural,

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Speaker 1: I guess from God. My grandpa has twin sisters. Okay,

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Speaker 1: is the only family connection that I can trace it

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Speaker 1: so I don't know. Wow, Like I'm the third of

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Speaker 1: first set of twins in the family. Tell me their gender.

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Speaker 1: Tell me what it was like when you found out

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Speaker 1: started freaking out. I literally went to money. Honestly, we

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Speaker 1: won't deliver twins if they're not both head down. Some will.

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Speaker 1: gave you the flu? And I was like, I don't know.

424
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: And then it was until like day three where my

425
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 1: freaking boob was like on fire and I was like, oh, while,

426
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 1: you learn when you get there. And thank god, it

427
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: sounds like you have a very supportive husband, mother, team

428
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 1: of people. So did you finally go to a therapist

429
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: or psychologist? No? I know, and I never I never

430
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 1: went to a psychiatry or there. I just went to

431
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 1: my OBI and then the neurologist and then I was

432
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: just on pills after about actually before I went when

433
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 1: by the time I went back to work. I got

434
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 1: off of them. Yeah, low dosage and they're very safe

435
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: for breastfeeding. Thank god. I was so freaked out about

436
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: going on medication. Same But honestly, I I'm so grateful

437
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 1: because I was upshits Creek man, Like I was such

438
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: an emotional wreck after my daughter, Like I was having

439
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 1: panic attacks and I was I was crying all the time,

440
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: like for no reason, Like nothing was wrong. My baby

441
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 1: was healthy, I was healthy, but I was just really

442
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 1: crying a lot and feeling overwhelmed and having panic attacks.

443
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 1: What did you feel like, I mean, you were dealing

444
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: with the whole physical thing too, which is insane, right,

445
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: But I was crying a lot too. I honestly didn't

446
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: have um the connection with my babies. I I would,

447
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 1: And because my mom was living with us, I remember, like,

448
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: you know, during the day and this was like Michael

449
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 1: Stake for the first two weeks, and it was great

450
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: because that's right when like we found out about my

451
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: face and stuff. But I just remember like being alone

452
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 1: with my mom with the babies during the day the house,

453
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: and like my mom is just like playing with them

454
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,239
Speaker 1: and like singing to them and like links singing her

455
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: Spanish songs and like all this stuff, and I was

456
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: just like stare at them. I did not feel connected

457
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 1: at all. I felt I felt out of body. I

458
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: felt not like myself. I was like a zombie. Yeah,

459
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: And so I knew I needed to talk to my

460
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: doctor at that point, and and then the face thing happened.

461
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: I matter, I honestly can't remember how it all happened,

462
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 1: like what day, what, but like it was just all

463
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: within like that first two weeks of like being home

464
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: with them, people who are listening. You know, you can't

465
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: go to your obi like I was talking. I have

466
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: been in therapy for like twelve years, so I was

467
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: talking to my therapist a whole time. She was like,

468
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: I think you should go talk to your psychologist and

469
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: see if you might need to be on be put

470
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: on medication because I think you're not doing well, Like

471
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: I was already at week six, and she was like,

472
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 1: you've been trying to dig yourself out of these feelings

473
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: for six weeks. You're still uncontrollably crying, You're still having

474
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: panic attack. You just don't need to struggle like this.

475
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: You could be enjoying it more and you're not. Is

476
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,479
Speaker 1: there any plan in place? In case that happens with

477
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: your daughter or you just like, you know what, let's

478
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: be open and like see how I feel. Yeah, I

479
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: think that's kind of my plan. The aries in me

480
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: is just kind of like I'm gonna be fine, and like,

481
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: you know, you might be. I mean, that's what's so

482
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: crazy about that I am these hormones though, Like there's

483
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: no rhyme or reason. It's it's not like a person.

484
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: It's like literally some people react to childbirth and meeting

485
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: their baby and they're never felt the love and the

486
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: connection and the happiness they do. And that's not everybody.

487
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: It was not my case at all, and it was

488
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: worse with my second than my first. But you don't

489
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: know how you're going to react this time. I had

490
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 1: no idea in my head. I'm like, oh, it'll be

491
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: different because I was like such survival mode with the twins,

492
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: and I think that that was part of the reason

493
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: why I didn't have that connection, because I was like

494
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: my my attention and my love was split between each

495
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 1: one of them, and I was just like going back

496
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: and forth, and you know, I never had the time

497
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: to like really kind of just like nuzzle them and

498
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: like Lane, like I mean, I would, but it wasn't.

499
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: As soon as I did that with one of the

500
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: other one started crying, and so I had to put

501
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: the one that was already asleep down and then pick

502
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: up the other one. And it was just NonStop ship

503
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: over revolving door, babies crying and poopy. Yeah, because one

504
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 1: baby poops like fourteen times a day, So if you

505
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: add two babies doing that, that's absolutely bananas. First of all,

506
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: you're pregnant. How far along are you at the time

507
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 1: of this recording? Right now? I am twenty gosh, I'm

508
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: gonna go a calendar. I am twenty six weeks preg

509
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: so next week we're in the third trimester. Yes, it's one,

510
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: it's one embryo. Did you want one or the other?

511
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: Did you care? Since you want to say the girl,

512
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: I was preparing myself for a boy because I just

513
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: was like, you know, stepdover goes my way sometimes and

514
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: so I'm just like, it's a boy. It's a boy.

515
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: So I was so thrilled when we found out it

516
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: was a girl. I just like, I have a sister.

517
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: I want Asa to have a sister, not that like

518
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: I don't want Max and have a brother, but I

519
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess I'm selfish. No, it's I'm with you.

520
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: Girls are the best. I'm with you, Like I'm just

521
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: so I'm I'm actually really happy that Max is my

522
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: only boy. Like I the love I have with him

523
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: is so special and I don't want to have to

524
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 1: share that with another son. It's like, it's like that

525
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: is my that's your boy, that's your boy. So you're

526
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: about to go into your third trimester. I feel like

527
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: you've had a great pregnancy this time around. I mean,

528
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: it must feel so different being pregnant with one. Is

529
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: there less swelling, is they're less eating? Is there less symptoms?

530
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 1: Or is it like you're pregnant, you're pregnant all of

531
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: the above. I haven't experienced any swelling yet. I'm way

532
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: more active. I was scared to move with the twins.

533
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: I was just like, I don't want to like rock

534
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: the boat, and like I was just so scared. I

535
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: was considered high risk, so I what was told not

536
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: to really truly exercise that much. She was like walks

537
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: around the neighborhood and that's pretty much it. Um And

538
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: I still didn't even do that with this one. I'm

539
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: working out a lot more, and I'm like, active, I

540
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: feel a lot better. You were on my podcast and

541
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: I remember I was like, I don't want to jink

542
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 1: sit because it's going so well. Yes, I shoot you not.

543
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 1: Two hours later, my doctor calls me my results for

544
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: my Glucoast screening, which is like the glucoast that they

545
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: screened for gestational diabetes. You have to fast for it,

546
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: and like it's just a nightmare you get. They take

547
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 1: your blood every four hours for like the whole day.

548
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: It came back inconclusive. The lab must something up and

549
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: somehow the final two tubes of my blood work could

550
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: not be tested because they clatted. And she's like, you

551
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: need to come back and do it all over again.

552
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: So then I'm like trying to find the time, and

553
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: like I broke down. I haven't cried in like forever,

554
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: and I like broke down last week and I was

555
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: just like let it out, a good cry. I let

556
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: it all out, and I was just like, it's not fair,

557
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: but I'm almsot like it is what it is. It

558
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: could be worse. At least everything else is healthy. And

559
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 1: I know I could probably I could tell Ryan in

560
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: my work, like hey, I need to take this the

561
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: out work so I can go to the screening. But like,

562
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm not that type of person, Like I have a workaholic.

563
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to rock the boat at work either,

564
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: And so I were like, what are my options? And

565
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't want to fast and I don't

566
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: want to do this. I think this test again to say,

567
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: other option is you monitor your glucoast testing at home

568
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: by pricking your finger four times a day for a

569
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: week and we just take those results. So that's what

570
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm doing. So you're pricking your finger four times a

571
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: day and you're going to find out whether or not

572
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: you have gestational diabetes. Yeah. And then I didn't realize

573
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: and I did a lot of research on this afterwards.

574
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,959
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that this is an option. Like if

575
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: you don't want to take that sugary drink and do

576
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: all that, then you could do this and it's the

577
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: same exact result. I didn't know that either. That's awesome. Um,

578
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: I feel like that's so great. Women pregnant women hate

579
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: that glue coast tested. Some It wasn't that hard for me,

580
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: but some people like it's really bad. So Okay, you're

581
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: feeling good you're feeling much better and during this pregnancy

582
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: than with twins, understandably, So this time around, are you

583
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: scheduling a C section again or you going for a

584
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: v back, which is a vaginal birth after cesarean is

585
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: what that stands for. Are you interested in that or

586
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: you like forget it? Um, I am gonna go for

587
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: a V back. I don't know if that's a crazy

588
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: thing to do, but my doctor thinks that that I'm

589
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: like a good candidate for it. The only reason she

590
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't do a V back, she said, if for whatever reason,

591
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: my c section was like cut the other way, which

592
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: I didn't even know why they would have to do that,

593
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: and I guess in an emergency situation. But everything looks

594
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: normal for me to do a V back, So we're

595
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: going in that direction. I'm terrified of it because I

596
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: don't know what it'll be like, but I know that

597
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: that's the natural way of a baby, so well, it's

598
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: it's really you know what's crazy is you've already had

599
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: a C section with twins. You already know what that

600
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: experience is like, you know what that healing was like

601
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: for you, and and honestly, you know, some people say

602
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: a vaginal birth that afterwards healing isn't as bad, isn't

603
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: as hard. Um. But you know what's great is it

604
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: sounds like you have a great doctor and you'll go

605
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: in there and try. And I mean, the only thing

606
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: I know about the backs really is that if the

607
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: c section scar has anything off about it, they really

608
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: don't want to do it because it could rip again

609
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: or or something could happen. But it's but if your

610
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: c section and your uterus from being cut has healed

611
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: up pretty well and can take it. I know a

612
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: lot of people who have had a successful v back.

613
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: Did you have both of your kids? I had both vaginally. Um.

614
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: I tried my first kid to have a C section.

615
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: I asked, you did well? I really wasn't. I was

616
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: like terrified of like a vaginal birth. I was. I

617
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: was terrified. I was scarred when I was thirteen. God,

618
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: I hope they don't do this in schools anymore. But

619
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: when I was thirteen in biology class, or maybe younger,

620
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: maybe eleven, they showed that horrifying miracle of life video

621
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: to our school where it's like a woman with a

622
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: crazy seventies bush birds and they have a camera really

623
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: up close and I was like, I'm never doing that,

624
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: Like that looked absolutely terrible, and I've been terrified my

625
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: whole life. I when I was pregnant with my son,

626
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: I never like watched birthing videos and thought it was

627
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: like this beautiful thing. I was like, I'm scared, and

628
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: I talked to my doctor about it endlessly. I was like,

629
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: I really think I want to see section because I'm scared.

630
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: And my doctor said, look, Katie, if we get to

631
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: the end of this pregnancy and your baby's measuring huge,

632
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: or you're still feeling really afraid, or he's not head

633
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: down or there's anything, then we can talk more about

634
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: a C section. And she said, but I have to

635
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: be honest that if he's head down and measuring, you know,

636
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: he was small. He was six pounds twelve ounces. She

637
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: was like, I just think you're gonna be happy to

638
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: attempt a vaginal birth because the hell you're going to

639
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: go back to work and you're healing will be much faster.

640
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: You'll be up and on your feet and going in

641
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: like a couple of days versus a C section, which

642
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: sometimes can be challenging on the healing end of life.

643
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: It really is the c section is because and also

644
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: then they give you pain medication, so you almost don't

645
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: realize like how bad it is. And that's what Michael's like,

646
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be walking around as much, you shouldn't be

647
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: really lifting the babies as much. And I'm like, I

648
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: feel fine though, He's like, it's because you're on payments,

649
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: like and then it wasn't until it was off of

650
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: them where I was like, holy crap, my stomach or

651
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: at least what the incision was was numb for like

652
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: six months. Yeah, it's it's major surgery. Yeah. Well, I

653
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: wish you the best of luck just to get what

654
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: you want. That we're safe and you're in good hands. X.

655
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: Question your twins, they're three, How is it going? My

656
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: three year old is kicking my ass? I don't know.

657
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes I think you almost might have it harder than

658
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: I because they have each other. They feed off of

659
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: each other in in in a way, so it's like

660
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: if we're going to bed, they're both going to bed,

661
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: so they have a buddy that like is also going

662
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: to bed with them, like even if they don't want to.

663
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: We have tantrums, we have all that stuff. We have.

664
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: My daughter is way more passionate than my son is

665
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: when it comes to all that stuff, and she does

666
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: the throwing her head and on the ground and for

667
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: something so like you know, stupid, like she didn't you know,

668
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: she didn't get to put the toothpaste on her toothbrush,

669
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: like total melt out. They sleep in the same room,

670
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: they got their own beds. And do they wear the

671
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: same outfits sometimes on special holidays or pajamas you know, yeah,

672
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: pajama We're big on pajamas, like, if not the same

673
00:33:54,920 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: like he has the like you know. Yes, I loved

674
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: matching them when they were babies. I loved it and

675
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: it was so far hard for me to find outfits

676
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: actually that weren't super cheesy. I didn't want him like

677
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: matchy matchy. I just wanted him like like him in

678
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: a black shirt and like little jeans and hers to

679
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: be like in a black dress with like cute people

680
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: stuff like that, like nothing crazy. But um, even so

681
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: this day I still kind of do. I'm gonna imatchin

682
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: him as long as I can until they refuse. Have

683
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: the twins picked up Spanish yet? So yes, I would

684
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: like to say they're bilingual. Um, they understand Spanish completely

685
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: every now and then they'll they'll give you a sentence

686
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: in Spanish or ask for something in Spanish. But I

687
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: would say the majority of the time they speak English

688
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: to us and to our nanny who are nanny speaks

689
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: Spanish with them. So does my mom, so does my aunt,

690
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: like all family members do. I totally understand it. I

691
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: wish they spoke it a little bit more, but um,

692
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: they will. That's that's on us too. It's like my

693
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: husband and I don't speak Spanish to each other, but

694
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: we we do speak get How would you describe you

695
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: and your husband's parenting styles? Are they similar or are

696
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: they different? I think they're pretty similar. We kind of see.

697
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: He's a little bit more tough sometimes and I'm more nurturing.

698
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: I think when it comes to like the meltdowns and

699
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: things like that, like I'm easy. I cave faster, and

700
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 1: I'll be like, okay, we'll just come here and let's

701
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: let's try to like, you know, hug, you know, count

702
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: to four. I always say, like, count of four, and

703
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: when they're just hysterical and so you just like deep

704
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: breaths all that stuff. He does that too, but he's

705
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: way more like I don't know how to describe it.

706
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: I think he's a little bit more strict than I am.

707
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: I think every couple has one that's more strict than

708
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: the other. My husband's definitely more strict, definitely far stronger

709
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: when it comes to boundaries, and I'm just so much

710
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: more of a hippie, like, oh whatever, it's fine. But

711
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: what's what we always do is we And what I've

712
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: heard is so important is that you always have to

713
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: both be on a united front in front of them.

714
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: So like, even if if my husband sets a line

715
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: and I don't really give a ship one way or

716
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: the other, but if the line is you're not getting

717
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: that right now, I have to get on board with

718
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: the line my husband has set. As soon as we

719
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 1: start to undermine each other in front of the kids,

720
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: they smell out the weak link, which, let's be honest,

721
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: my three dager already knows it's me. Like when my

722
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: husband says no to something, I'll be runs right to

723
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: me and it's like, mom, but can I have TV?

724
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: And I'll say yeah, like whatever, it's fine, and I'm

725
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: like I just told him no, and I'm like, oh,

726
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know, I'm changing my mind. Dad said no,

727
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: But Adams like, albe, you cannot run to mommy and

728
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: ask for something because I said no, Like this is

729
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: the new ship show that we're dealing with. Um, how

730
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: do you feel like carving out time for both of them,

731
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: like one at a time? Do you get to do that?

732
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: Like do you spend time separately with your daughter and

733
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: your son? And then how what are your plan is

734
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: going to do that when you throw a third in there?

735
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: I know it's gonna be crazy. So we're still keeping

736
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: our nanny, which we need. Obviously, my head's kind of

737
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: spinning with what I will like try to do, but um,

738
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: with them, I do carve out time separately. My husband

739
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: does too, and we can feel it. I think it

740
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: was last weekend and he was just like, hey, he's

741
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: like I really think like we need to like separate

742
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: the twins this weekend or something. That's like fine, And

743
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: so he had Max and I took as of she

744
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: and I would shop you into home goods and it

745
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: and just kind of like had a mommy daughter day

746
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: and then I otherwise I'll do all we'll flip it

747
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: and do the other way around. And also, I think

748
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: it's so important if you're a twin parent to have

749
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: them have separate time. I separate them like constantly. I

750
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: was like, okay, it's time for you know, and to

751
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: have a long time. So Max and why don't you

752
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: play in the room and as you plan to play

753
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: room and then they play separately for like an hour,

754
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, because they just go at it all day long.

755
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: That's such a good practice though, because my son, you know,

756
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: he was so low the whole pandemic, and I was like,

757
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: we've literally created a monster. But I don't think that

758
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: makes a difference though, because they find over stuff. And

759
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, is that when you go to school you're

760
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: gonna have to share? She's like no, oh yeah, I'll

761
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: be so pissed. I was like, figure it out on

762
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: your own, sister. Yeah. Yeah. He just started school three

763
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and I'm like, this is the greatest ship ever.

764
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: He came home like day three a kid had bit

765
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: him and I was like, yeah, see life. No, I

766
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: was like, life is heard. Well, first of all, I

767
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: heard a great thing years ago, which was like if

768
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: the head of the nursery school is saying that there's

769
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: no biting or hitting here, they're lying, okay there, it's

770
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: just not possible. And it's not like a bite bite.

771
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: I mean the kid is to it two and a

772
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: half and they ripped choice from each other and he

773
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: like put his teeth on my son. There wasn't even

774
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: skin broken. Kids are scrappy. Man, Tell me how your

775
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: kids reacted and how you told them that they you

776
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: were pregnant and then it's a baby sister coming into

777
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: the family. Um, no reaction they I mean, I honestly

778
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: didn't even try to make it cute or try to

779
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: do anything exciting. Um. We waited until we were in

780
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: our second trimester and um, and I was starting to

781
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: show a little bit. I actually started to show early

782
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: with this pregnancy. We just kind of told him that

783
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: there's a baby in mommy's belly. And I don't even

784
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: think they understood it. Um, they know it's baby sisters.

785
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: They do know it's a girl. I will I do

786
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: remember this, and I don't know if you ever forget it.

787
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 1: But it was so my one of my best friends

788
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: came over and he brought the baby these like ridiculously

789
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: small little like pink baby Jordan nikes or whatever, and

790
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: there's like there's such pointless shoes because like they you know,

791
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: you don't put shoes on the baby. But yeah, I know,

792
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: we have all these little baby shoes. I'm like, we're

793
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: never gonna all she wears his barefoot or a sock.

794
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know. So it's just it's

795
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: funny when people give you gifts and they don't have kids.

796
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: It was one of those, and so I brought it

797
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,959
Speaker 1: into the house and it was just on the counter

798
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: and Asa looked at me and she was just like

799
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: are these asas? And I was like no, because they're pink.

800
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: You know, It's like she automatically associates anything. And I

801
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: was like, no, this is for baby sister. This is

802
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: not Fraser. And I was like no. And it was

803
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: like the first moment of like her realizing that like

804
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: not everything is going to be hers. That's girly or that.

805
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: I guess. I think this is so meant to be though,

806
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: because you've said to me before and when I was

807
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: on your podcast, your daughter is very is a much

808
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: stronger personality in terms of like getting what she wants.

809
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: She's driven, She's very like that. So I feel like

810
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: this is so great that she's going to have a

811
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: baby sister for her, and so great for the baby

812
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: sister to have her older sister. I think so too

813
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: a little teacher to share it. But then it also

814
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: given the opportunity to boss somebody around. Yeah, Like, it's both.

815
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: She's gonna have to find middle ground. She's gonna have

816
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: to like boss her around, and she's also going to

817
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: have to have compassion and empathy for or you know,

818
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: a little system. Do you have any advice for women

819
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: who have multiples? Advice don't be afraid to ask for help,

820
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: especially early on, because you don't need to tackle it

821
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: all yourself. When people would come over, they'd be like,

822
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: can I help, Like, you know, I was like, I

823
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: need to take a shower, Like can you just want

824
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: you watch them? Like I just want to take a shower,

825
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: or can you help me with the dishes? Like it's

826
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: that type of help that you that you need, not Oh,

827
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: let me come over and seat on your couch and

828
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: just like take pictures of the baby. I was like, no,

829
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: we need like help. Yeah, and yeah, I mean I

830
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: think it's kind of just important to let them, uh,

831
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: both have their own identity. I don't have identical twins,

832
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: but we took a twin class um when I when

833
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: they were first born, and it was like a four

834
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: months old. You could start the class and it was

835
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: all twins that were around that same age. It was

836
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: just twin parents. They you know, give you tips and

837
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: tricks throughout raising them in the three years of life.

838
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: The instructor really encouraged parents and had identical twins not

839
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: to dress them alike. And I thought that was interesting

840
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: because she was just like, you really want them to

841
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: have their own identity, and if they have that, they're

842
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: constantly being compared to or be like, look exactly the same,

843
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: even clothes wise. It does something to their mental state.

844
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I was just like, yeah, I

845
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: understand that. I could see that. You know, it would

846
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: be hard for me because I don't I think I

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Speaker 1: would want to still dress them alike. You know, well,

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Speaker 1: you're also not battling the identical thing. They're already different

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Speaker 1: because once a boy was a girl, do you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? So like their makeup is different. It's like,

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Speaker 1: it's so interesting. Do you have any tips or tricks

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Speaker 1: for moms when your kid has a tantrum? What do

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Speaker 1: you do? I liked the one, two, three four thing.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was really helpful and I haven't heard

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Speaker 1: that before tell us about that. I just, you know what,

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Speaker 1: that's so funny that you say that, because we my

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Speaker 1: husband and I, it's an inside joke there. So my

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Speaker 1: nieces and my nephews, um are you know, my my

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Speaker 1: brother and sister a lot older than me, so that

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Speaker 1: I have a nephew who's gosh, he's seventeen years old,

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Speaker 1: and then the youngest is the youngest is ten. So

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Speaker 1: we've been through the baby game with nieces and nephews

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Speaker 1: for so many years before we had our own kids.

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Speaker 1: And one of them one year, I don't know, we're

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Speaker 1: watching this little show and there was a song. It

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Speaker 1: was just like when you're feeling frustrated, take a deep

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Speaker 1: breath and counter four one two and then so my

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Speaker 1: husband and I, we didn't even have kids, we would

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Speaker 1: always say that to each other, like just jokingly, like

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Speaker 1: other and it is stuck. And now we pass it

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Speaker 1: along to our kids. So that's brilliant. So your kids

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Speaker 1: have a tantrum and you say, everyone, take a deep breath,

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Speaker 1: we're going to count for which is really good for

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Speaker 1: you too, because it regulates you having a reaction to

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Speaker 1: the tantrum. Yes, and if that doesn't work, because it

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Speaker 1: doesn't work every single time, I'm a firm believer in

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Speaker 1: letting them have the tantrum. And look, we've been in

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Speaker 1: embarrassment thing of being in a public place and them

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Speaker 1: having a tantrum. So I let them cry it out.

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Speaker 1: And if they're still kind of not coming back to reality,

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Speaker 1: I say, hey, why don't you go and have some

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Speaker 1: quiet time in your room? Why don't you just go

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Speaker 1: And I'll let them go and cry in the room,

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Speaker 1: right And they'll half the time, they'll just come back

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Speaker 1: out maybe five ten minutes later, and they're they're fine.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I think that's super helpful letting the

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Speaker 1: kids just have it, because honestly, you can't get through

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Speaker 1: to them while they're in it. No, this was so helpful,

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Speaker 1: sis E. Parenthood is and then what do you think?

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Speaker 1: Parenthood is a roller coaster? That's what we haven't had yet.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Thank you Sissy so much for coming

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