1 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Hey, it's stuck got Leeban. Welcome into the All Ball Podcast. Man, 2 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: do we have very little talk about? Kidding kidding? You 3 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: got college hoops on? I got mostly college hoops on 4 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: the docket today. I will only start with this in 5 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: terms of Lebron James. You're like, wait, it's marsh madness. 6 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: I want your picks. I want to know who do 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: you like to win it, who should get in the tournament, 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: coaches and who should replace different coaches. I'll get to 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: that in a second. I just want to give you, 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: give you one little tidbit here on this Rick Buker 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: story that Genie Buss at least contemplated it, called in 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: Rich Paul and said, hey, we might if this doesn't 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: we might trade Lebron James. Now, look, it's a it's 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: a veiled threat. Um. It's also it's a flimsy threat. 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, She's not trading Lebron James. 16 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: It's really hard to trade a guy who you just 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: moved out to California. Are you train him to the 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: Clippers or the Nicks. That's probably the only two possible destinations. 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: But I guess maybe, just maybe maybe maybe maybe the Celtics. 20 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: But you know you're talking very very limited, and what 21 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: do you say to your season ticket holders? What do 22 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: you say to your TV network? If you part ways 23 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: with the guy that you sold all your advertisement around, 24 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: that would be just super uncomfortable. It's only your first year, 25 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: but it points to this. All of those leak stories. 26 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: Remember first it was leaked out that Lebron could be 27 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: playing if you know, despite injury, if it was a 28 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: playoff run. Then there was the league story from Jackie 29 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: McMullen that he won a different coach. Then there was 30 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: all the leagues with the Anthony Davis deal and what 31 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,919 Speaker 1: I thought it was then, and I believe this proves 32 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: it was. It was a coup day top. It was 33 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: Rich Paul and Lebron James trying to own the Lakers. 34 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: They've always said they want to own an NBA team. 35 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: That's great, that NBA team is not actually for sale, 36 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: not even close to being for sale. And that's what 37 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: Jennie Bust did is she just said, hey, this is 38 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna shoot down this coup. Now the question becomes 39 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: does she honestly know how to do it right? Does 40 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: she know how to do it? Because if she trades 41 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: for she allows them to trade for Anthony Davis and 42 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: then they hire TYLERU or they hire somebody repped by 43 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: Rich Paul. What has she done? She's had a threat 44 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: but hasn't stood by that threat. Instead, they've still kind 45 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: of taken over her franchise and run it their way. 46 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: It's a disaster. Lebron is part of the reason, a 47 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: good parson the reason that it's a disaster, and Jeannie 48 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: is struggling to maintain some level of control over her 49 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: dad's late father's proud franchise. I think ultimately it's a 50 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: super smart move, but it's only made only made to 51 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: actually work if they don't trade for Anthony Davis and 52 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: they don't hire a Rich Paul client or a Lebron 53 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: James buddy to be the next head coach of the Lakers, 54 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: or maybe not make a head coaching change at all, 55 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: but I think there's probably one in the offing. Let's 56 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: get to college hoops, so Selection Sunday is upon us. Um. 57 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: I've decided to give you just a couple of stories 58 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: that I think are pretty awesome. First Selection Sunday, no 59 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: one ever gets to actually see how it works, and 60 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: having been on that set for was it four years? 61 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: I can tell you that's pretty awesome to be the 62 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: first one to lay your eyes on the bracket and 63 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: no you nanny nay boo boo, I got something you 64 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: don't have Like that was pretty incredible, pretty incredible, especially 65 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: for a guy who grew up watching the brackets be unveiled. Um, 66 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: I would say that I don't love the way CBS 67 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: has chosen to go back in time, back to the 68 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: way that we did it for the most part. When 69 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: I was there one year, obviously, we tried what was 70 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: pretty ill fated idea of how to unveil the brackets 71 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: a right where we had a two hour show and 72 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: we would do the old show and then like a 73 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: segment with Charles and Kenny and UM and Seth Davis 74 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: and it was kind of mishmash and there wasn't a 75 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: lot of hoop being told there, and people wanted their 76 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: their brackets. Look, this is not hard the four the 77 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: old format works, but you just don't have to do 78 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: it so tight. Oh. It's just kind of a classic 79 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: overreaction to the TV guys like a Richard Ditch. I 80 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: want the brackets and I want them now. Why so 81 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: you'll change the channel. No, no, no no, no, we have 82 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: you as captivated audience. And by the way, we have 83 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: really really good experts. And if your experts are really good, 84 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: then you know all we would get when I was there, 85 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: and that's all they get this year is fifteen seconds 86 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: to give a thought. One analyst gives one thought on 87 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: each game. That's it. And then we come back around 88 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: and say some verily generic stuff, and they interview some 89 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: coaches and they show some shots. But why why would 90 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: you give every game only fifteen seconds? Look, I'll be 91 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: doing a show on stadium uh Stadium Sports where will 92 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: break down every game and of course all the other networks, 93 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: so I'll breakdown games. But why why are we doing 94 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: a show where you only have fifteen seconds to talk 95 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: about each basketball game? That doesn't make any sense. All 96 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: of these games are worthy of discussion. Tell about the 97 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: players and styles, and who do you think is gonna win? 98 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: And why it's gonna be up tempo games, the team zone, 99 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: who's a player on one of the underdog teams that 100 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: need to get to know? You don't have any of 101 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: that when all you have is fifteen seconds. So congratulations, 102 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: TV guy, You've made it. Kind of lame. So congratulations 103 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: TV guy, right, like all these idiots on Twitter and 104 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: TV people like I promise you if I was in charge, 105 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: even if you had an hour and a half show whatever, 106 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: there's you just need to carve out time to talk 107 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: about each game, to talk about each team. Like Clark 108 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: and Seth and all those guys, they're perfectly capable of 109 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: breaking down each game. And I just always felt like there, 110 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: you know you don't. There's games that just get glossed over, 111 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: and then you give up that opportunity to every other 112 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: network when you're at CBS, Like, look, hold onto each bracket. 113 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: It's fine, give it, uh, show a bracket, go through 114 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: each game, talk about the talk about each game, and 115 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: then go to the next bracket. But you don't have 116 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: to have fifteen seconds for each game. It's just too 117 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: too type, especially when you can make a lot more 118 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: money off of if you'r CBS coming out of that 119 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: big ten championship game. But I don't. I don't work anymore, 120 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: so they can. They want to do it that way. 121 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: It's fine that that way still works and people will 122 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: still um, we'll still watch. I just think it's a 123 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: better way and and more you can give a more 124 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: informed viewer, and you can also say things that are 125 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: sometimes more right and sometimes more wrong. Bigger predictions, more 126 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: players to talk about, more coaches to talk about, more 127 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: outstay any stories. Instead, it kind of gets lost because 128 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: you just don't have the time. Why don't you have 129 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: the time. You're the one who sets the time. When 130 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: you're CBS. You have the bracket, hold onto it. And 131 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: and by the way, I would reveal all the other 132 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: brackets and then put the bubble teams last for the 133 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: first four, put them absolutely last. Why not? All right, 134 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: let's get to uh, let's get to selection Sunday. In 135 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: terms of the teams that are getting in, I do 136 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: think that Duke has a chance to win the whole thing, 137 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: especially because they have Zion back. It's top heavy team. 138 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: He's a unique player. They don't shoot it great, they 139 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: don't have much depth and those and they're very very 140 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: young at at at most their key spots. But they're 141 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: super talented, and this is not a crazy talented college 142 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: basketball season where there's other teams. On the other hand, 143 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: I'd love to see a match up with Kentucky and 144 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: see the improvement in this Kentucky squad that's kind of 145 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: figured themselves out. I put Kentucky and Duke right there 146 00:07:55,360 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: with Tennessee and Gonzaga and Virginia as the team. You know, 147 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: all those those are the teams. And I actually think 148 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: Michigan more than Michigan State has a chance to get 149 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: to the final four. We're gonna do this next week 150 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: as well. Thinking about this doing my radio show, which 151 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: you can catch every day three to sixt Eastern twelve, 152 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: three Pacific on Fox Sports traded the I Heart Radio 153 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,119 Speaker 1: app or you know, follow me on Twitter, will tweet 154 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: out where, where and how you can get the radio show. 155 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: I was thinking about my three different n actually four 156 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: different n A Tournament appearances. First year Notre Dame, we 157 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: were nine and eighteen, we were done on It was 158 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: the first year they expanded Big East. Our first year 159 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: in the Big East. We played Syracuse the last day 160 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: of the season, Senior Day. We played Syracuse in Syracuse, 161 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: New York. We led by fifteen and a half, We 162 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: led by six when a minute ago and had the 163 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: ball and lost. And then I feel like and I 164 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: don't remember the game as vividly because it really happened quickly. 165 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: We led in the first half against Syracuse in the 166 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: Big East Tournament. We played them in the first game, 167 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: and this was a Syracuse team that played for a 168 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: national championship. We had them dead to rights, beat beat 169 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: un senior day they went and played for national championship. 170 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: Like a month later in East breath Offford against Kentucky, 171 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: Crazy Lazarus sims, Otis Hill, Jeff Chippola and of course 172 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: j dub John Wallace. Al Right, remember that. Remember the 173 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: games in Denver. The game against Georgia was nutty, but 174 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: it's it's like three different lives of four different lives, 175 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: playing four different years of college basketball, playing college basketball, 176 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: but having your season be over on Thursday. The first 177 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: time that the Big East Tournament started on a Thursday, 178 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: I believe maybe it was Wednesday, but I think it 179 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: was Thursday. I remember walking around New York City after 180 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: the games. We played the very first game and we 181 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: were done at like two o'clock, and like, you know, 182 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: three thirty, we're in Times Square. We're walking around with 183 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: our Notre Dame sweatsun Like, oh, hey, Notre Dame, you're 184 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: in the Big East. Now, Hey, what time you guys 185 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: play tomorrow? Like now we're actually done, We're going home. 186 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: We did have spring break and that spring break coincided 187 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: with the Final four and got tickets, and I think 188 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: we sold him. I I think we got That was 189 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: the last year in the arena, the last time they've 190 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: had a Final four in arena. I think my dad 191 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: had two tickets and he paid for all of our trips, 192 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: my brother and my sister, me and my my dad 193 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: paid for all of our different trips because he had 194 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: two tickets and he sold them and we watched it 195 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: from uh Jim Oregngstein is a famous agent now his 196 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: dad was a attorney. Brothers and my dad. My dad 197 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: went to Syracuse for a year and anyway, like all 198 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: the stuff my dad, my dad is not alive anymore, 199 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: so I can tell his secret story, like he went 200 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: to Syracuse for a year and rushed the fraternity and 201 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: then I'm not sure he ever told anybody House State. 202 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: And I don't know if he rushed a different fraternity, 203 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: like what was Sammy and one was I don't know 204 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: the two him anyway, So uh Jim and Gus Orangstein's 205 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: dad was his fraternity brother. They were still friends and 206 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: so we watched the games at a bar. But it's 207 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: weird to like say, like you're playing college basketball, you're 208 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: not a part of the it's it's it's like it's 209 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: like you're not a part of the sport. And then 210 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: you know, fast forward two years later. I remember we 211 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: were a surprised team to win the Big Twelve South, 212 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: but we played a very soft schedule and then we 213 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: lost our first Big twelve tournament game against Texas. It 214 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: was Tom penders last win as a Texas said coach. 215 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: Came back and we got a terrible seed, got an 216 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: eight seed, and I just remember like we got an 217 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: eight seed and we played George Washington. Then the bracket 218 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: comes up and we're playing Duke, and all of a sudden, 219 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: the air was like let out of the balloon. It 220 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: turns out, I mean Duke was They were okay that year. 221 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: That was the year before H two, a couple of 222 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: years before they won the national championship, year before they 223 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: went to the Final four. They had batty A, they 224 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: had brand, they had Chris Burchess. Sean McLeod kicked her ask. 225 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: That was it in Kentucky and we the game was 226 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: tied with two and a half to go, and I'm 227 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: dribbling up the court and Eddie Sutton stands up and 228 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: he's doing this thing with his hands. It's like almost 229 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: like spreading his wings. And I was like, I don't 230 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: know what play you're calling, so I just did the 231 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: old twenty second call the time out. Well, it turns 232 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: out he was just telling us to spread out, but 233 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: I couldn't hear him because it was so loud in 234 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: the arena, and it was also our last time out. 235 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: I did not get a technical foul in Chris Webbert. Anyway, 236 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: we read a play called Cowboy Fade. It's one that 237 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: you can see Michigan State run. Um, you put your 238 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: two posts out wide, put two guards out top, putting 239 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: me in the middle, hit me in the at the 240 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: top of the key, and you set two flare screens 241 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: and we ran for Adrian Peterson. He caught it and 242 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: instead of shooting the jump shot because the man trailed him, 243 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: he smartly drove into the basket and I thought he 244 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: was foul, but I don't know he missed a drive. Um, 245 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: they come down, get a bucket, We come down, miss 246 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: a shot. They come down, get a bucket. Another Sean 247 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: McLoud and we end up losing by six points. But 248 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: it was tied with two minutes ago and we almost 249 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: beat Duke. And almost beating Duke at that time was 250 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: so big. Then when we got back to Stillwater, we 251 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: were like local legends, local heroes. St. Patrick's Day was 252 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: the next Tuesday, and all of a split on classes 253 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: and drank green beer and um eight eight great eggs 254 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: at ham. It was amazing al right. So that's that's 255 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: my first n c A tournament experience. That was in Lexting, Kentucky. 256 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: Of course Eddie Sutton had been the head coach. There. 257 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: Didn't end well, so we had like police escorts everywhere 258 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: we went. We stayed at like, oh, like a double 259 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: tree that had big tubs. The memories I have are 260 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: really interesting. Yeah, So I mean, like, look, anybody who's 261 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: playing the tournament, I would guess you remember so many 262 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: moments vividly, right, And I remember that that the first 263 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: tournament we played in, we won one of the first 264 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: games of the tournament against George Washington. I actually think 265 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: that's that's the best. The best is to win on 266 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: the early games on Thursday, because then everybody else is playing. 267 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: You get to watch all these other games. You're kind 268 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: of like you keep watching your highlights and Oak almost 269 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: started beats George Washington, blah blah blah. You just you 270 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: remember for those moments. So what we'll do next week 271 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: on the pod, I'll have a bunch of different guests 272 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: on and we'll tell like our favorite n c A 273 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 1: tournament stories. I have other stories from even the first year. Um, 274 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: I'll leave with this. I don't feel like it's a 275 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: huge controversial year, but I do think it's a year 276 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: in which the committee do you have to look at 277 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: every different number and make the case for every different team. Like, look, 278 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: if you want to make a case for the high 279 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: majors in the Indianas to get in, fine, but you 280 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: lose sixteen games, you lose twelve out of fifteen at 281 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: one point, are you really an ins A tournament team? 282 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: And and why not on on some level, reward even 283 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: if it's an inferior roster, one that you're not sure 284 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: in a neutral side if they actually win the game, 285 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: why not reward Belmont, Burman, UNC, green Sproke, multiple teams. 286 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: That's what the first four is designed for. Our first 287 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: guest is Boby Regan covers college hoops, NBA Draft, the 288 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: NBA and as he writes, other shenanigans at bar Stool Sports. 289 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: He's lefty, so I kind of like him. Means he 290 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: probably has a better looking jump shot than I do. 291 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: He joins us from his couch or his sofa or 292 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: his big man chair in his man cave. Alright, so, Bobby, 293 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: I guess here's my first question to you. What do 294 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: you think is the most interesting part of college basketball 295 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: heading into selection Sunday? Who? Um, I think it's there's two. 296 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: It's the race for the one seeds, because, let's be honest, 297 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: blue blood It's as much as we love upsets, blue 298 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: bloods Layton laton NS tournament is what matters. So whether 299 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: it's you know, you're talking about the ultimate blue bloods 300 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: and d Kentucky and un se battling for what to 301 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: one seeds probably, and then on the flip side, the 302 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: debate of mid majors getting in verse you know, five 303 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: hundred or something five conference record teams from major conferences. 304 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: I think those are the two most interesting ones. I'll 305 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: probably go with the top half just because I mean, 306 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: let's be honest, at the championship type caliber teams and 307 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: that's always a little bit more interesting. Um, let's let's 308 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: start the back end of it, because like, look, this 309 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: is gonna drop tomorrow morning, which is Friday morning, and 310 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: all of those blue bloods will likely still be playing, 311 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: and so we don't have kind of clarity on where 312 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: they stand, but of the of the low and mid 313 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: majors who have lost and are needing a flyer to 314 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: get in. And I called this the what the fund 315 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: is Tulsa doing in my bracket from a couple of 316 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: years ago. I'll never forget. Like I was in the 317 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: I was in the set of CBS, and the way 318 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: it worked was, um, we would go over to the 319 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: CBS UH CBS UH Sports Network studio and they had 320 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: a show going like the whole time while the Big 321 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: ten game was being played, and so we pop in 322 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: and then meanwhile, you had two packs, You had two microphones, 323 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: he had two year packs, whatever, and they would switch 324 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: you over and right before the show, um, literally right 325 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: before the show, they'd hand you a bracket and you 326 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: kind of have like five minutes to figure it out 327 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: before you know, and then then you look, you say, 328 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: all right, you know the South that's coming up first 329 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: or whatever, and you're just kind of scanning, scanning for 330 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: who's missing and who's in the bracket? And I'll never forget. 331 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: I think it was, you know, three or four years 332 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: ago right where they Tulsa popped up and they weren't 333 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: even really on most people's radars, a bubble team, and 334 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: I was like, what the fund is Tulsa doing in 335 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: this bracket? I remember saying out loudly like, dude, you 336 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: get a microphone on. It's not hot, but you gotta 337 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: be careful anyway. So, um, who is the team that 338 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: if you're gonna stick Boby Regan's gonna stick his flag 339 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: in and go like, hey, here's the team I believe 340 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: in and they should be in. Who is it? Um, 341 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: that's the team that I'll stick my steak in. From 342 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 1: the mid majors. They got to sweep over Let's Come, 343 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: which I think is uh a key a key component 344 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: when you're arguing these teams and then, uh, you know, 345 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: the win at U c l A doesn't look as 346 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: great now, but it's stole a win at U c 347 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: l A. Um, I'll go Belmont for the team. I'll 348 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: stick my my steak in if they end up, whether 349 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: it's in Dayton the first four or not, I I 350 00:17:55,840 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: would be completely cool with it from the major's I 351 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: don't know. I I guess Indiana. Why Indiana? There are wins? 352 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: I think you know, everyone points to the losses, but 353 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: wins matter too, and they have some of the best 354 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: wins in the country, especially talking about sweeping Michigan State, 355 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: who you know, two days from now, we could be 356 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: talking as a as a one season. My issue with 357 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: Indiana is they were consistently bad, right Like, it's it's 358 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: any anybody can have a bad day or um um 359 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: about two weeks or something like that. Yeah, I mean 360 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: and and and like and maybe this is classically unfair, 361 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: but they very easily could have lost both of those 362 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: Michigan State games, very easily could have lost the Wisconsin 363 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: game at home. And so I sit there and go, like, 364 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: I get that they have good wins in November, but man, 365 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm I'm just struggling with the why were they so 366 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: bad for so long? If they're really a good team, 367 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: right like, if you're a really good team and you 368 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: have an injury and then an injury, um, but do 369 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: you have a bad night or a bad had two 370 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: games or bad road swing, like they had bad home losses, 371 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: and the problem with the like, look the Big Big 372 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: Ten is super smart. Those guys are brilliant. They basically 373 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: did they've done to this system what the Valley did 374 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: ten years ago, which is, you know, expand the number 375 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: of conference games, and when your conference teams pick up 376 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: good wins and they're like, you know, the the the 377 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: quad one becomes top seventy five, which is a very 378 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: flimsy argument for who's really any good But regardless, um, 379 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: because they've had a good year, like, it doesn't look 380 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: as bad when you lose the Northwestern Northwestern sucks this year. 381 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, they're just not a good team. When they 382 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: played Ohio State, ohiu State wasn't good and they lost 383 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: at home, and then they got pummeled by Minnesota on 384 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: the road. So I struggle with Indiana unless they make 385 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: a Big Ten tournament run. Um, let me get back 386 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: to the right. Let me get back to the Belmont thing. 387 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating. Obviously lost their conference tournament championship. 388 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: I have no problem with Belmont if lipscum, if any 389 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: of these teams um get in. But I think one 390 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: of the things we undersell or when I'm when I've 391 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: been on TV on that big show, we don't get 392 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: time to sell. Is how difficult winning at U c 393 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: l A and a guarantee game is, Like people people 394 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: don't understand, like winning a bye game in college basketball 395 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: is really really really hard. Um, you go out there, 396 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: they picked the refs, they picked the game time, they 397 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: give you a check, and sometimes they give you hotel 398 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: rooms and no one has any expectations of them winning 399 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: that of you winning that game, and they did. So 400 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: I almost give that like a win and a half 401 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: when that happens. To me, it makes up for the 402 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: green Bay loss. The green Bay loss, even though on 403 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: the road is is bad. The way at U c 404 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: l A should make up for that to me. And 405 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: then you have the sweep of lipscumb which I think 406 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: is one of the more impressive things when you talk 407 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: about bubble teams. Is you sweep another bubble team home 408 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: and away. That that should you know that that that 409 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: counts for something to make. And then you look at 410 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: what they did in the conference. I mean did what 411 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: two conference losses in the regular season. They guts went 412 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: by Jacksonville State, make it to the finals and lose 413 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: you know what, was a close game to Murray State. 414 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: Like to me, that's that's an and the thing they 415 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: look they looked apart, they looked a part of one 416 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: of the thirty six best teams were now large. Well, 417 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: and here's the other thing that goes for them as 418 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: opposed to in Indiana. Um is like, look, I understand 419 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: we can use the metrics of how many current top 420 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: fifty wins you would have, and Indiana has some incredible 421 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: like Lipscomb, by the way, has has one win, but 422 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: Belmont has is three and two as opposed to Indiana 423 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: six and eight versus the current top fifty. But even 424 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: if you factor in that metric, you factor in your 425 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: quad one record as well. You put all this stuff together, 426 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: the computer, the net rating has said that Belmont they 427 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,479 Speaker 1: believe is better than Indiana, right, So well, this is 428 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: It frustrates me that we did this with r p I, 429 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: where we would take little pieces of the r p 430 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: I and say we don't like the overall RPI, but 431 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: we like this number from the r PI, And we're 432 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: kind of doing the same thing with the network, Like, look, 433 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: if we think the net rating actually spits out the 434 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: teams and how they should be ranked, then why are 435 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: we dismissing Furman's forty one? Right? Um, and I would 436 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: say one of the things working against Ferman is the 437 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: Nova team they beat is not the Nova team that's 438 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: winning in the Big East Tournament. Right, It's a little bit. 439 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: And the Loyola. Everyone talks about that win at Loyola, 440 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: and Loyola was a very average team, right. Um. Okay, 441 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: let's get to the top of the bracket. Give me 442 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: your pool of teams you think and win a national championship. Virginia, 443 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: u n C, Duke as long as Zion is healthy, Gonzaga, Kentucky, 444 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: Texas Tech. That's it. Tennessee can't win it. I don't 445 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: think so. I think they. I think they are very good. 446 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, I'm not. I don't want to not. 447 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: I don't want to knock Tennessee too much. I think 448 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: their Final four caliber. I think we've seen the peak 449 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: of Tennessee. I think we know who they are, whereas 450 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: the other schools I think have still a little bit 451 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: more of a peak. They have that kind of pop 452 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: end talent that you look for. Gret Williams, Amial school 453 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: Field both really really good. But go look, you know, 454 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: you look at national champions you have to have kind 455 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: of top end pro talent on the on the roster. 456 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: They're the one school that doesn't really have that you're 457 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: talking about back in first round picks. Um. Yeah, I 458 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: would also say, though, that wasn't that really what Villanova had, Like, 459 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: like the Villanova guys were all overdrafted because of how 460 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 1: good a team they were, like like the seven of them, 461 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: at least they had seven, then they had four. I 462 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: thought they had Bridges. Bridges was was the top guy. 463 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: DiVincenzo Spellman snuck in. I thought you were talking the 464 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: first year. Yeah, yeah, but even those guys like like yeah, 465 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: even even that team, like like Josh Hart was overdrafted 466 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: because of the culture of the place, Like he's a 467 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: nice player, Like he should have been a second mid 468 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: second round draft pick. And that's that's one of the 469 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: reasons I think Zion Williamson should should and is in 470 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: fact playing. Why all these guys should play, is because 471 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: what we see last and what we see you do 472 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: in the n c A tournament forever shapes who am 473 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: Tory and Green Remember was draft in the NBA. He 474 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: was an NBA player, but he was part of actor 475 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: back national championship teams. So my point is I think 476 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 1: that they're on their value, whereas I look at at 477 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: Tennessee and I think they're h I agree. My thing 478 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: is more like, look, Rick has not been a good 479 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: tournament coach. Well yeah, which is which is really stunning 480 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: because you have older players and you have Rick Barnes. 481 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: You think they would be rugging in tough defensively and 482 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: they're actually not. Yeah there, And I mean I know 483 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: they looked really good defensively against Kentucky and Mississippi States 484 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: back to back, but the rest of the season says 485 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: that you can go score on them ass you want. Um, okay, 486 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: So give me one outlier that could be a Final 487 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: four team. I have, I have my one. I love 488 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: your Texas Tech pic. By the way, I do, in 489 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: fact believe I'm not sure they're guards are good enough 490 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: to to make plays, but defensively and Couliver and coaching, um, 491 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: I would say yes. So I'm with you. If you're 492 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: going to have an outlier final four team, who would 493 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: it be? I have like two or three to pick 494 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: from the god yeah, yeah, I'm you know, I think 495 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: Florida's States of a possibility there. I know they were, 496 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: they were closes last year. They're quietly put together a 497 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: really good season. No, no, no, they're They're one of 498 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: these teams that you watch him walk through the airport 499 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: and go through lab lines, and at times they looked 500 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,239 Speaker 1: part of quite no question. But I think people kind 501 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: of dismissed them when they lost those three games in 502 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: a row because you lose back to back to Pitton 503 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: Boston College and then you know, I mean, let's be 504 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: honest to Florida State. You're not. You're one of the 505 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: least stro home A SEC teams, right, But that defense 506 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: is good enough. The question is can they hit enough shots? 507 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: But I think they are. I think they're one of 508 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: the sixteen best teams in the country. So if we're 509 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: going to go, you know, kind of somewhere like that, 510 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: they'll take Florida State as myotied. Alright, I got I 511 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: got two for you, and feel free to dismantle them. 512 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: They're more ones a mid major ones kind of yeah, 513 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: both kind of mid majors. I still believe in. I 514 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: still believe in Nevada and Buffalo. Those are the two. 515 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: Like I completely agreeful. Yeah, Well, like I'm watching Buffalo 516 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: play today against Akron and I've seen Acron a and 517 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: uh I called their games in the Cayman So I 518 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: saw him play three times and I was like, they're 519 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: not bad. And now look, look they haven't had a 520 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: great year and they've kind of moved line us, but 521 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: they've got older kids, and Buffalo just kicked the hell 522 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: out of them, and like, dude, like what are we doing? 523 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: Because it was when we do like a Buffalo team 524 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: drops a stinker and you're like, oh, they're not any good. Indiana, Michigan, 525 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: you know, Michigan drops the stinker. You're like, well, Michigan 526 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: had a bad shooting night, like you know, or they're 527 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: big ten team, like you lose the Crumby team. You 528 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: lose to a crumby team. Buffalo is really good, really 529 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: good defensively older mass and Birches stud They've shown the 530 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: abild to win the ns A Tournament. They're not going 531 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: to be scared. I think they'll get a pretty good 532 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: seed in a pretty good draw. And then the other 533 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: ones Nevada, who they have some stinkers as well and 534 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: they don't shoot it great. I think they're just bored 535 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: during the regular seas. Correct. I kind of think there's 536 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: a little Golden State Warriors to them. Yeah, well you 537 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: talk about their seven eight guys that are three years old. Yes, 538 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: they know how good they are. Yes, I mean how 539 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: hyped can you get for a game at air Force 540 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: or you know, games like that where we know we're 541 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: the best team in the conference, we know we're one 542 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: of the fifteen best teams in the country. Let's just 543 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: wait to the Mountain West Tournament and then then a tournament. 544 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: You know, just do enough to be comfortable, get the 545 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: top five seat and then go from there. Um, who 546 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: do you think it's u c l A job? I 547 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: have no idea. It's the most I've said it a 548 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: couple of times. It's the most fascinating. It's the most 549 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: fascinating coaching search I can remember. Because you're talking about 550 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: a big time program like u c l A. Every 551 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: other time a big time program has opened up, we 552 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: knew who was going to get hired. Like everybody knew 553 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: Chris Mack was going to Louisville. Everyone assumed like John 554 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: Calipari was linked to Kentucky. It's it's wide open. The 555 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: fact that we're going about six months until it's probably 556 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a higher or something. I guess four months, 557 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: five months, I don't know, Like is Matt Painter an option, 558 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: because I wouldn't be surprised with that. I just I 559 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: find it would be just weird to bring out another 560 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: Midwestern guy and put him in that chair, right, And 561 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: I think paint I think paints great, and I think 562 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: he could build the type of culture where they would 563 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: win and win for a long time. Like I don't, 564 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm not dismissing pain And obviously, you know, John Winden 565 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: is a produed former Produe player, form Produe coach, you know, 566 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: I mean he's I know, he's the exact same, He's 567 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: the exact same. You've got the same. But you had 568 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: Steve Alford, who granted came from New Mexico. But I 569 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: just I don't know if that same thing works again. 570 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: I think it would be a great higher and would 571 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: be interesting, But I don't know if that's what U 572 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: c l a. Is into. Like there's right now they 573 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,719 Speaker 1: because they finally spent some money on football, people are 574 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: convinced they're going to spend money on basketball, which means 575 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: it puts them in the Hey, we'll throw a bunch 576 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: of money and do whatever Tony Bennett wants. But I 577 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: just don't. I don't think Tony Bennett takes it, and 578 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think I think they need 579 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: Bill self. I think that's that's the guy. But I 580 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: don't know if that's an interesting one, that'd be an 581 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: interesting one. UM. I mean if if if we're talking, 582 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: you know, like Vegas favorites, is it is Walton the 583 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 1: Vegas favorite, or or and Edny or someone like that, 584 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: that well, Earl Wattson gonna be the ties. I don't know. 585 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: Eddy getting passed over to be the interim I thought 586 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: was kind of a dirty deal. I mean, I don't 587 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: understand why you don't give that guy the job. Um. 588 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: But they't even never even talked to him about it. Um. 589 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: Earle is kind of like the recent players, people's champ right. 590 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: They love the guy. I don't. I don't see the 591 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: Walton thing outside of Bill and the old guard, you know, 592 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: wanting that name an attachment, just because I don't think 593 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: he's into college basketball at all. I don't think that's 594 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: his jam. He people forget during the lockout he spent 595 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: time with Memphis. I don't think he loved it, um. 596 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: And I think he really likes the NBA, and I 597 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: think he thinks getting another NBA gig and like guys 598 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: that have legit coached in the NBA and have a 599 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: future in the NBA, they don't dig the college thing. 600 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: They just don't. They don't want to recruit, you know, 601 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: when they're off, they're off, and you know, they just 602 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: want to coach ball. They don't want to do all 603 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: the other stuff. And yeah, by the way, if he's 604 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: gonna take college job, I'm sure you prefer Arizona as 605 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: opposed to u c l A, which also might become open. Yeah, 606 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: I just I can't remember a job opening like u 607 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: c l A where it's this there's so many different 608 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: names linked to it with no one really having a 609 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: true idea of who's who feels like the real favorite. 610 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, it's really big jobs had that it's 611 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: it's a it's a great point you make where I 612 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: live here. Okay, I know people and no one everybody says, well, 613 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: Tony Bennett because that's kind of what's been leaked, and 614 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: what do you think about Woe Joe and all of 615 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: these all of these other guys. Um, alright, a couple 616 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: of things I want to get to and I'll let 617 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: you get back to watching the games. Because I know 618 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: you're spending thirteen hours in the same chair, which is 619 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: which I'm I'm totally jealous of. Give me the big 620 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: name team that will not be in the field of 621 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: sixty eight that people will be surprised by. Um, probably Clemson, 622 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: but I don't know if I would surprise anybody. Um, 623 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: you know, I think I think Oklahoma's fine. I'm trying 624 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: to think of people that have already walked. I don't 625 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: understand the Oklahoma thing. I mean, I know they'd be Kansas, 626 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: but god, they've been awful. Yeah, I know, I know, 627 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: but again in a second straight year of being bad 628 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: down the stretch, it's weird. It's weird that they can't 629 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: just get over like that February home. Um, I don't know, Like, 630 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any true surprise makes Florida. Yeah, 631 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: look like before it really hasn't done anything. But I 632 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: know the models kind of like them. Okay, give me 633 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: the player who We're gonna give me the Ali Fruitmanesh 634 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: of the first week, Well, that's a great one. Um. 635 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, like, who's all a little off 636 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: the radar? Obviously everyone was him out. I think we're 637 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: gonna take him out, do we? I mean I I look, 638 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: I think you and I do as college basketball guys do. 639 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: But this is what I explained to people. Um, you know, look, 640 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: I worked for ten years at ESPN, and I thought 641 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: everybody knew that I covered college basketball. And then I'd 642 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: work on one Selection Sunday and one n c Aterman Show, 643 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, you know, you're pretty good to 644 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: doing games in this basketball thing. You know, like, yeah, 645 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: I've been doing it a while. There's just a complete 646 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: there's a there's a whole population in people that don't 647 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: watch anything until the tournament. I think it's gonna be then. 648 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: It has to be fletching the game. He's the only 649 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: guy that can go get forty in the game, and 650 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: I think it's a real possibility he might, depending with 651 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: their matchup. Is okay? That's that? That's a good one. 652 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: Um is there what happens with will Wade at L 653 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: s U any chance he coaches again there? I'll tell 654 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: you what. It doesn't sound like that with everything that's 655 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: come out today, with the statements from both him and 656 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, the lawyers and everything. He wants to coach, 657 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: But L Shoe seems Joelieva seems very dead set on 658 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: just not letting him until something happens. And right now, 659 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 1: as of the state, they're on the complete opposite ends 660 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: of the spectrum. So I tend to think that he's 661 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: not gonna end up coaching this year. Um, all right, 662 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: give me um um Zion. Who's your national player of 663 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: the year, Zion Zion's national player there? Even missing that 664 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: many games, I think, I think anything that further strengthened 665 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: this case. What look at what Duke looked like with album? 666 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: What happened to Marquette? I don't know, Um, is their 667 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: defense really as average as we thought it was all 668 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: year or I guess above average because that was a 669 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: question coming into the year. Yeah, I mean we look, 670 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: you have you have three dudes who athletically struggle right 671 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: like the Housers are are have great basketball queues, have 672 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: big bodies, but in terms of the lateral foot movement 673 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: not great. And then Marcus Howard's and not a nondefender 674 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: as well. Um, And they don't have a backup point guard, 675 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: and they don't have a they don't have a backup 676 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: point guard like I've um I have. I have long 677 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: said that you know that if they had the kids 678 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: sitting out, what's his name from Utah State? What's this? 679 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: Gosh golly, um shoot the transfer from Utah State? Who's why? 680 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: Am I Kobe McEwen? Then when they have when when 681 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: if he was eligible this year? Like, that's a team 682 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: that could win the whole thing. I think they're a 683 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: guard short think that, but Howard's little turnover prone and 684 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: he has to be your your lead ball hammer. Yeah, 685 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: I mean, look, you can't having one guy. And um, 686 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm with you. But it is funny how 687 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: like they were. They kind of took the Big East 688 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: by storm and then all of a sudden petered out 689 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: and everybody's forgotten about them nationally, even US now I'm 690 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: not talking about I do think they're a team that 691 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: can make a run in the tournament, just because you 692 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 1: have three dudes that can absolutely light it up, spread 693 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: you way out. Like you I remember getting ready for 694 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: ends date tournaments and you're watching highlight clips of teams. 695 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: I just I'm thinking of watching highlight clips and you know, 696 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: Marcus Howard, you're watching and studying and then you're watching 697 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: these these two big boys, you know, hit NBA three's 698 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: and hit you know, post up shots and um and 699 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: then they have they never feel out of a game 700 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: just because of how quick they can they can they 701 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: can score yeah yeah, And and look defense, if you 702 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: look at the top defensive teams, they usually survived the 703 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: first game and sometimes the first weekend. But teams that 704 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: make a run to the n s a. Totermain now 705 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: that second weekend. It's ones that can make shots, like 706 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: you gotta have multiple shot makers and they and they 707 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: absolutely that they were very average defensively the Napier year. Yeah, 708 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,720 Speaker 1: and obviously Napier took over, and there's some similarities to Napier. 709 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: To do you think Marcus Howard comes back for a 710 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: senior year. I go back and forth. I don't. I 711 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: think he might because I don't. I don't know where 712 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 1: he's gonna be graded at this year. And I think 713 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: he can similar to to Shamory Ponds, where it was 714 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: well what can you do to get better? Okay, we 715 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: can be more efficient and Ponds became more efficient this year. 716 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: I think Howard can come back and be you know, hey, 717 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 1: I can take care of the ball a bit more 718 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: and be a true combo guard at the next level. Um, 719 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: like you said McKellen coming over, you can run more 720 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: sets with him off the ball, with Howard off the ball. 721 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: You know what would that that turnover percentage? You know 722 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: limit A should say limit touches, but limit you know, 723 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: ball handling touches with him is the main ball handler 724 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: and show I guess kind of his strength more than 725 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: his weaknesses. Yeah, I guess my thing is And I 726 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: think this is what they'll tell him. Look, your second 727 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,479 Speaker 1: round pick. If you come out this year, your second 728 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: round picks come out next year. The only difference is 729 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: you know again and this is if they don't um, 730 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: if they don't make a run. Like, if they make 731 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: a run, I think you go because you're probably a 732 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: first round draft pick. But if you know, make a 733 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: run to the final four. But if you don't, like 734 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: come back and worst case scenario a second round pick. 735 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: And you said every career scoring mark in Marquette history, 736 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: and you know, um, you know you left high school 737 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: year early. Why not kind of come out at a 738 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: normal age. He turns twenty after the season. I think 739 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: after the school year as well. I think if they 740 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 1: lose first week and he's back, if they make second 741 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: week and he's gone. There you go. When's your next 742 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: pot dropping? Uh? Right now, it's on the hold. So 743 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: I'm just just writing right now. We're we're doing at 744 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: a little things that a little different over parcels, so 745 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: you can just keep following or keep reading the site 746 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: and I'm on there. Awesome. Well, I look forward to 747 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: having you on my radio show as well this upcoming week, 748 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: getting ready for the n c a A tournament. Love 749 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: your work and uh I love I love the fact 750 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: that you are not moving. So hopefully you did not 751 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: move during this interview. Appreciate your time. I did not 752 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: just lay. Where are you watching? Where you watching? Next week? 753 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: I'll be at my house. I love it. I'm in 754 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: my I'm in my basement with with my my beer 755 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: fridge and my multiple TVs. There's no reason to move. 756 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 1: What what beer, whatever, whatever? My friends bring over. That's 757 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: the rule. You guys can all come over here. I 758 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: have everything set up. I'll order the food. You guys 759 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: just bring the beer so I don't have to leave 760 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: a Thanks so much, dude, all right, have a going. 761 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 1: My next guest is Brian snow Be. Snow As he's 762 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: known as a recruiting analyst, but also loves the college game. 763 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: I thought you'd love to hear his opinions on all 764 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: things college. Who All right, let's welcome in, my man 765 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: be Snow as he joins us. Of course, he's a 766 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 1: recruiting analyst for seven Sports. Uh. He lives in India, 767 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 1: which is the heart of all things hoop. Let's start 768 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: with this, Um, does Indiana basketball deserve a spot in 769 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: the field of sixty eight as it stands this moment 770 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: in time. I don't think you can say yes, but 771 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: you know it, keep winning, find a way to win, 772 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, maybe, but I would say no right now. Uh. 773 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,959 Speaker 1: They played a hard schedule, but the way they played 774 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,919 Speaker 1: down the stretch, it's it's tough to justify it. That said, 775 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: the rule, the golden rule of the nt A Tournament, 776 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: as you have to take teams let me let me 777 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: just ask you this. Okay. So again, at the time 778 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: of this recording, they're losing by thirteen with ninety to 779 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: go in the second half. Okay, So let's assume we'll 780 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: addit that part out. Okay. So let's assume right now 781 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: for the next two minutes that they've lost this game. 782 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: So you lose, you lose the Ohio State in a 783 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: must win game, you lose to Ahouse State, and so 784 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: you end up like, we can point out their wins 785 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: and they're really good wins, but you end up essentially 786 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: eight and thirteen in Big Ten play eight and thirteen 787 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: and um, as much as you could sit there and 788 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: go like, well, they had won four in a row, 789 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,720 Speaker 1: like okay, but they had lost five and row before, 790 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, or lost what was it like, eleven out 791 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: of twelve before they won four in a row, And 792 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: so then you lose to Ohio State. Um, who's a 793 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: borderline team at best in in their own right. I 794 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: just I struggle with the They had two miraculous wins 795 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: at home over Wisconsin and Michigan State late, and the 796 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: road win over Michigan State was a big one. Was 797 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: a big one. I'm not trying to diminish it. But 798 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: if you look at the whole of their season, who 799 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: they are in the tournament like that doesn't feel like 800 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: a tournament team to me. Yeah, I would say seventeen 801 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: and fifteen isn't good enough to get into the tournament. 802 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: I think you need a little bit more substance than that. Now, 803 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: they probably have the best wins of anybody on the bubble. 804 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: But at some point in time, you've got to be 805 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: a little bit more consistent. You can't lose to Northwestern 806 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 1: so or you lose a couple to a hostage. So 807 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 1: if you were going to take them out, because this 808 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: is the thing, there's sixty eight teams point out, it's 809 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,959 Speaker 1: hard to get up all in and you're gonna put 810 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: one of these non name brand teams in. We're talking UNC, 811 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 1: Greensboro and Belmont and Firman, and I'm sure I'm missing somebody, 812 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: missing somebody right now. Maybe a UC Irvine doesn't win 813 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: the doesn't win the Big West Tournament, I think they 814 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: get in if if they don't, Um, who do you 815 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: put in ahead of Indiana? Of those non named brand 816 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: mid major low major? For me, it might be Greensboro, Uh, 817 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 1: just because all their losses have been good um And 818 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 1: and I'm someone who tends to value good wins over 819 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: bad losses. So that's why I struggled with that versus 820 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: sake Fermin which did go to Villanova and win, but 821 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 1: I think Greensboro kind of earned it. I'm not trying 822 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: to hear any arguments on Belmont. I'll be completely honest 823 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: with you. I'm just not listening to them. Yea, here's 824 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,439 Speaker 1: here's an issue one on Fermin. Right, so we would 825 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: both agree that when they played Villanova, Villanova was probably 826 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: not as good a team as they are now. Right, 827 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: that is that fair? I mean, um, it could stand 828 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: a reason that Fermin might actually be better as well. Like, 829 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: it's funny we only look at one team and say 830 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 1: they're the only team that's gotten better, but it also did. 831 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated we don't use that same argument for 832 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: Indiana goes and beats Marquette on the road, but I 833 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,280 Speaker 1: don't know if it's on the road they beat Marquette 834 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: really Okay, so it was at home they beat they 835 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: beat the hell out of Marquette. But why is it 836 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: that only Furman playing Nova? Only that only that Villanova 837 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: team is better and improved because they lost four guys 838 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 1: in the NBA draft, But they're the only team that's 839 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: gotten better of all three of those teams. Yeah, that's 840 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: where it gets interesting. And I think you can parse 841 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: any part of a schedule, And that's why I kind 842 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: of want to take the whole in what overall? And 843 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: that's why I pointed Greensbrook, I look at Belmont. They 844 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: lost to Jacksonville State, twife, and why did they lose 845 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: to Jacksonville State Because they couldn't match athleticis? Well, who 846 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: are they can be playing in the n c A 847 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: tournament athletic teams. So I look at that, I say, 848 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 1: it's just a fundamental problem with them. So I'm not 849 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: really trying to hear Belmont. They have nothing to back 850 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: it up. So I would probably lean Greensborough if I 851 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 1: had to take one of those teams who we've kind 852 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: of lumped every body into mid major, I would say 853 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,919 Speaker 1: some of those teams are actually low major. If I'm 854 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: taking one of those lower level teams, I think I'm 855 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,479 Speaker 1: leaving Greensboro. Who gets the u c l A job? 856 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: That's a heck of a question. Okay, let me ask 857 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: you this, maybe maybe this, since nobody seems to know, right, 858 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 1: I put Brian Snow. You've been doing this a long time. 859 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 1: You know, everybody's sport, the realities of how much people make. 860 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: Who would actually if you're going to give me your 861 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,439 Speaker 1: wish list of three guys that you think you could 862 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: offer to and would probably take it if you were uh, 863 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: if you were Guerrero, if you were in charge of 864 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: the deal. Who would be the calls? My first call 865 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 1: probably Chris Beard. I know some might look at it 866 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: not a great personality fit in in l A. But 867 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: I think he's good enough and I think he would 868 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 1: let his guys be dudes just enough to keep people happy. 869 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: They'd probably my first call. If I could sign a 870 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: way to get Matt Painter, I would. I I don't 871 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 1: think Matt would leave, but if Matt would go, I 872 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 1: like him in that well, then you know, Fred Wiberg 873 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: makes some sense. You know, it's not perfect by any 874 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination. But he would have to get 875 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: the right assistance, that's for sure, because Fred's not a 876 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: big fan of recruiting. But if he could get some assistance, 877 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 1: that will that will do what he does and and 878 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: Fred can. The best thing he does is manage egos, 879 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: and as you know dugout in l A, that can 880 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: be a big thing. Well that's that's I kind of 881 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,760 Speaker 1: like Fred Hoiberg. That's that's the big thing with coaching 882 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,720 Speaker 1: at u C l A is it's not just managing egoes. 883 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: You got to pick the right kids in l A. 884 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: Like it's a it's a different deal. Out here where um, 885 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: you know, I know coaches in the Pac twelve, they're like, 886 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: why that team, why did that team fall apart? Too 887 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: many l A kids, you know, just too many l 888 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: You gotta get kids from you know, even if you 889 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 1: get Inland Empire kids or you get kids from nor Cow, 890 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: from Sacramento, from Vegas, Arizona. There's why are different than 891 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 1: l A kids that you know, everybody's got clothing line 892 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: and Instagram account they got And there's the conflicting alliances 893 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: of the the different AU programs as well. L A 894 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: is a different deal. And I wonder if Fred, who 895 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: kind of always carries himself as above, it would be 896 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: a good fit or it could be a complete disaster 897 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: because he doesn't really engage with the players. I think 898 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: Beard would be great. I just I don't know. I 899 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 1: would guess that I'm be interested to what Texas does. 900 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: You know he's a Texas alum and I know they're 901 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: in the same league. But there's no way that they 902 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: sit there and go like, hey, we're cool with the 903 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 1: Texas alum winning winning our league at Texas Tech and 904 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: then going to u C l A. I feel like 905 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: Texas at some point the ego of those donors is like, yeah, 906 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna, we're gonna, We're gonna make him an offer 907 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: and then you know, try and find a soft landing 908 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 1: for Shaka. That that's what's interesting. And you know you're 909 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 1: gonna have if buzz Ley's Virginia Tech, you know, that's 910 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: that's a natural spot for Shocka to get a soft landing. 911 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: If Wake moves on from Danny Manning, maybe they can 912 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 1: find a soft landing. And I think it probably. I 913 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: don't know that Shocka would be totally against that either, 914 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: we're being totally on it. Yes, So that that's what's 915 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to watch, is how these dominoes go 916 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: down when they start going down. But the other thing 917 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: I would say about the U c. L A job is, 918 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 1: you know, and I think where Fred might be good 919 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: is so much of it is keeping agents at an 920 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: arm's length, and Fred, with his NBA experience and his 921 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: ties to agents, might be able to do that because 922 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: every agent lives in that area of that lay. It's 923 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 1: wild to think about, but that that's a big part 924 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 1: of it as well. Yeah, it could also be interesting 925 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,760 Speaker 1: though he's a washerman guy, and washerman's kind of complete 926 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: control of the thing if he hires the coach and 927 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 1: he's a washerman client. Um that part, that part is 928 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: super interesting. All right, Who is your who are your 929 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: pool of teams that you can see whin the whole thing? Uh? 930 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: I think you gotta assuming Zion's a healthy human being, 931 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: I think you gotta start with Duke. Um. I'm so 932 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: even though I'm not, I can guarantee you I won't 933 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 1: pick him. Virginia has to be there. Gonzaga definitely, even 934 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: though Josh Perkins brought every fear I have of Josh 935 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 1: Perkins out against St. Mary's meaning what meaning what for 936 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 1: people who haven't and Josh Berken's play. When it goes bad, 937 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: it goes horribly, horribly bad, and it can do so 938 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: in a hurry, and he can struggle with pressure or 939 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 1: sometime not like not pressure, like oh my god, this 940 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 1: is a big game, but actual no, no, no pressure. Yes, 941 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: and look and and St. Mary's. I thought I had 942 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: a great game plan. Randy did an amazing job. But 943 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: those aren't elite, crazy level athletes, like he's going to 944 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 1: see it at the top of college basketball, right, like 945 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I just love their front court. 946 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 1: So I'm not going to count them out. I'm not either, 947 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 1: but it is interesting that they've always had a good 948 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,919 Speaker 1: front court, but Gonzaga has made it, made his mark 949 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: by one having good athletes in the front court. But 950 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 1: you know, all their early teams, it was all backcourt dominant, 951 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 1: you know, back like you know, from Santangelo to Dick 952 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: out to step Um two and Pargo somewhere in there 953 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 1: as well, Rivio and Um you know Pengos as well. 954 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: Although a lot of those guys they were limited athletically, 955 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,320 Speaker 1: they were great shooters, big shot makers, and exceptional pastors 956 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 1: as well and really really tough. Perkins feels like the 957 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: least true point guard worthy of those guys of of 958 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 1: of the runs. It just it does feel like a 959 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: fundamental flaw. But look, I think Tennessee might have that 960 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,319 Speaker 1: fundamental flaw as well. Okay, so so you put Duke, 961 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 1: you put Gonzaga. Who are the other teams? You know, 962 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 1: Virginia and the way they played it, even though I 963 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 1: don't love their talent, North Carolina because of the way 964 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 1: they're playing and it seems like they can always have 965 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 1: an answer when when you can score, you have a 966 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 1: chance to win it. Um and then I would say 967 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: Tennessee and Kentucky. I would say, it's going to be 968 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: from that group. I don't I don't necessarily love any team. 969 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 1: Like I don't look at any team and see a 970 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 1: Villanova from last year where I was like, that is 971 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,399 Speaker 1: the best team in the country. Yes, class was very 972 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,399 Speaker 1: it was it was very very easy. Okay. So here, 973 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 1: so outside of that group, give me a team that 974 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: Brian Snows says, I wouldn't sunt be stunned to see 975 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 1: them in the final four. Certainly Texas Tech. Uh, you know, 976 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: they've got experience winning in March. Would you have got 977 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 1: and you got a dude in Jerreed Colvern, you've got 978 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 1: a lottery pick. So I would I would point to 979 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 1: Texas Tech is one of those teams. And then this 980 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,439 Speaker 1: is going to sound insane because they're playing terrible right now. 981 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 1: But Marquette because a guy who can go for fifty, 982 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 1: and they have two other guys that can rise up 983 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 1: and shoot. They got a rim protect her there. I've 984 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: I've said, if Code McEwen was eligible, I think they 985 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 1: can win the whole thing. Yeah, So I look at 986 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 1: Marquette and I say, you know, if they catch fire, 987 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: you know that that's a team that they've kind of 988 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 1: got some of the markers of a team that's that's 989 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,839 Speaker 1: gone far in the past. I have I have two 990 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 1: teams that I'm I'm infatuated with, Nevada and Buffalo. I 991 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: feel like Nevada gets bored. They got twenty three year 992 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: old guys. They got Jordan Caroline, who's an absolute monster. 993 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,360 Speaker 1: They don't shoot it great, um and and we we 994 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 1: do look at Sweet sixteen last year and assume that 995 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 1: they were great. They had to have two miraculous comebacks 996 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 1: just to make the Sweet sixteen. But I like Nevada 997 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 1: and I really like Buffalo, really really really like Buffalo. 998 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,320 Speaker 1: Tell me I'm crazy. They're old and talented, old talented, 999 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 1: and they've got some shotmakers. So yeah, Buffalo, I just 1000 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,280 Speaker 1: I just wonder if if they can if they can 1001 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 1: stand up physically upfront. But again, old, they got shot makers, 1002 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,800 Speaker 1: and they play hard. And that's the heck of a combination. 1003 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: It is not a bad combination, all right. Give me. 1004 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 1: I got a couple of teams that I think we're bound. 1005 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 1: They just don't seem like they're as good as reputation. 1006 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: I would say Kansas and louisvoor are the two teams. 1007 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 1: Like I Louisville's ranked twenty one, but it's like we're 1008 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 1: kind of not paying. They have one true ball handler 1009 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: and he's really a low mid major. I mean he's um. 1010 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 1: You know, Christian has been outstanding for them, but he's 1011 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 1: not a great and like you talk about a guy 1012 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: who's not great under pressure, Look what happened against that 1013 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: Duke Press. Christian Cunningham just kind of wilted. I feel 1014 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,240 Speaker 1: like we're I mean, they had their big win against 1015 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 1: they have a couple of big wins, but in totality, Uh, 1016 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 1: they're a surprising team because Chris mac is an awesome coach. 1017 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,320 Speaker 1: And I think Kansas, Kansas and louisvor teams that wouldn't 1018 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 1: stun me if they lost the first game. The two 1019 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 1: the two he took one of mine in Kansas because 1020 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 1: they're they're terrible away from fall right now, like just awful. 1021 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,879 Speaker 1: And then Virginia Tech because they're not the same without 1022 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:16,280 Speaker 1: Justin Robinson. And even if Justin Robinson comes back, he's 1023 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 1: not gonna be Justin Robinson. I mean he's been out 1024 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 1: one a month now. You don't just step in and 1025 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: start playing basketball and be the same guy. So I 1026 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: wonder if Virginia Tech really has it, you know, to 1027 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 1: make a run. And I also think if Justin does 1028 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: come back, you kind of got the Kyrie Irving thing 1029 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,839 Speaker 1: when he came back for Duke, Like these guys are 1030 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: now used to playing without him, and now the guy 1031 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,359 Speaker 1: who's gonna handle the ball all the time is coming 1032 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 1: into the mix. And you have the hard adjustment and 1033 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 1: you have the buzz thing, which we all think buzz 1034 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,359 Speaker 1: is getting the A and M job, right, Yes, yeah, 1035 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: it's like worst kept secret ever. Yeah, it's been a 1036 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: worset cupt secret for like eighteen months. Yeah, yeah, that 1037 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,879 Speaker 1: that Billy's not He's not gonna get fired. He's gonna 1038 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 1: somehow do something else within the university system. Of course, 1039 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 1: he's been fighting Parkinson's really since he got got the job. 1040 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 1: And everybody likes b K. But the thing is, the 1041 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,360 Speaker 1: thing is not going right, not going in the right direction. 1042 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 1: And you know, Buzzes always want to get back to Texas, 1043 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: and then they have gobs and gobs of money, and 1044 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 1: it takes gobs and gobs of money to get him 1045 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 1: out of Virginia Tech, right, Yeah, And I don't see 1046 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: the other thing is I don't see Kelvin Samson leaving 1047 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: for A and M. I don't know if they'd hire him, 1048 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 1: but I don't think he would go to A and M. 1049 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,360 Speaker 1: So who's if Kelvin is not going to be the 1050 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 1: guy that kind of leaves buzz and every buzz is 1051 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 1: a very He's a different dude, but he's a very 1052 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 1: smart dude. One he knows he can wear on people 1053 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 1: and he doesn't like to stay somewhere too long because 1054 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 1: of that. And then too, he also knows if you 1055 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 1: stay somewhere too long, you want to be one step 1056 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 1: to have a deposity, because once you lose people, you 1057 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 1: never get them back. And he did it at Marquette, 1058 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: and I could see him wanting to do it at 1059 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech as well. All right, what about Arkansas? Does 1060 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 1: that come up in you know? I've I've heard yes, 1061 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 1: I've heard no, you put a gun to my head. 1062 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 1: I would probably guess yes. But you know that that's 1063 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 1: a tough one because there's so much you know Mike 1064 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,800 Speaker 1: Anderson such like the Arkansas guy, And while he hasn't 1065 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 1: had great success, he hasn't had great failures either, So 1066 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 1: that one's going to be interesting. I tend to agree 1067 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 1: with your National Player of the years who um. I 1068 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: still lean towards Zion Williamson, but I'm I'm stuck. I 1069 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 1: I might go Cassius Winston because he's taking a team 1070 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 1: that honestly is not talented at all without Nick Warden 1071 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 1: and Josh Langford. And they won the Big Ten. Now 1072 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 1: they shared it, but they still want it. And Cassius 1073 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 1: Winston has controlled everything on the court for them, and 1074 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 1: and and then the and then the two and then 1075 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,280 Speaker 1: the two wins, and and even they lost Indian twice. 1076 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 1: The two wins over Michigan, You're going against arguably the 1077 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,239 Speaker 1: best defensive point guard in the country. And so I mean, 1078 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 1: and look, I know everything does off a ball screen, 1079 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 1: but it's one thing to to, you know, to win 1080 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,359 Speaker 1: big games in the conference against inferior of competition. You're 1081 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,839 Speaker 1: playing against an absolute dynamic defensive player and he's won 1082 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 1: both those matchups personally and with his team. I don't 1083 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 1: hate that pick. I don't hate that pick at all. 1084 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 1: Who's the Who's the big name team that will not 1085 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 1: hear their name called on selection Sunday? I think there's 1086 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 1: a bunch of them. I mean obviously I would I 1087 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: would say Indiana's probe the most obvious answer, and then UH, 1088 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 1: And I still think MC State. I don't think the 1089 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: win over Clemson is enough, So I think that's another 1090 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 1: one that's not going to hear their name call. I 1091 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 1: tend to agree with you. I don't. I'm I've gone 1092 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 1: off on this podcast over strength of schedule and why 1093 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,880 Speaker 1: that that ranking doesn't make any sense. But I do 1094 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 1: think when you have the worst non conference strength of schedule, 1095 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,319 Speaker 1: when it's the worst, UH, committee members get locked onto 1096 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,319 Speaker 1: things and they can't get off of them. I think 1097 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 1: that's one that they get locked onto. All right, we'll 1098 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: let you get back to watching your ball again. Make 1099 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 1: sure you can follow be Snow for all your recruiting 1100 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: information and hoop commentary. He knows these guys back forth 1101 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 1: in between. Tell all your friends about him at b 1102 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 1: Snow two four seven. Brian, thanks so much for join us. 1103 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,320 Speaker 1: Enjoy the hoops. Appreciate it dog. All right, hope you 1104 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,560 Speaker 1: enjoyed all ball. My thanks to our guests. Make sure 1105 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 1: you subscribe, download and listen. We'll preview the entire n 1106 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 1: c A tournament all the storylines from basketball next week 1107 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,319 Speaker 1: I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is all ball.