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Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Goal, Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we do it? Well, that's

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Speaker 2: good us too. Our number two here of the Drive

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Speaker 2: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

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Speaker 2: and the Gold, and the regular season is in the books.

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Speaker 2: With that, we're kind of, as Stevie Rayvaughn would say,

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Speaker 2: best guitar player ever. By the way we're walking the

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Speaker 2: tight rope. He's number one for you, he's number one

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Speaker 2: for me. But I understand that's a personal preference.

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Speaker 3: It's not like Brady's best quarterback or Jordan's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, Yeah, I think I've said this to you though,

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Speaker 2: that I understand Stevie Rayvaughn's an acquired taste. If you're

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Speaker 2: talking best guitar player ever, okay, and you don't mention

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Hendricks, Eddie Van Halen or Jimmy Page, I immediately

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Speaker 2: tune you out.

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Speaker 3: Really okay.

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Speaker 2: So if you want to tell me best guitar player

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Speaker 2: ever and one of those three isn't up at the

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Speaker 2: top in the conversation, I immediately tune you out.

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Speaker 3: Okay. You know my utter love for Zeppelin but I

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Speaker 3: was shocked at Page.

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Speaker 2: Was one of your three godfather of the riff. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I guess you could throw Clapton in that conversation.

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Speaker 3: In that conversation, I would have picked van Halen and

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Speaker 3: Hendrix as two of your three for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, buddy, yeah buddy, just absolute game changers. I

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Speaker 2: forget who it was the other day, but I told

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Speaker 2: somebody somebody was UH was listening to uh to Beat

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Speaker 2: It by Michael Jackson and like dancing along and singing along.

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Speaker 2: It might have been on the Steelers bus, like on

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Speaker 2: the way to Cleveland or something. And I was like,

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Speaker 2: you know, Eddi van Halen wrote that riff, right, edievan

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Speaker 2: Halen who wrote that riff? So not only is he

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Speaker 2: you know, Eddie friggin van Halen, he also wrote the

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Speaker 2: riff for the King of Pop, Michael Jackson. I digress.

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Speaker 2: These are the conversations that Matt and I have every

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Speaker 2: year when we drive five hours each way ten hours

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Speaker 2: round trip to indian a little bit. We used to

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Speaker 2: every year debate the hockey stuff. Crazy best guitar players

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Speaker 2: and like mount rushmore of hockey players.

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Speaker 3: And year on hockey stuff.

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Speaker 2: Just be losing his mind guys, can we talk about

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Speaker 2: baseball instead?

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Speaker 3: Please?

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Speaker 2: Last year, did you guys have this same conversation as

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Speaker 2: we cross over the Ohio Turnpike every single year? Matt

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Speaker 2: Speaking of awards, let's talk some NFL awards now that

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Speaker 2: this regular season is in the book. You want to

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Speaker 2: start at the top with m v P. You want

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Speaker 2: to start with let's let's let's start with the with

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Speaker 2: the big, with the big klublamy. And I think it's

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Speaker 2: a two horse race, right, Drake May or Matthew Stafford?

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Speaker 2: Is that fair? And did the way the season ended?

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Speaker 2: Does that give Drake May the nod? Yes? And yes,

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 3: Now, I hate being so driven by recency bias for

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Speaker 3: an award like this great, but I think it's enough,

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Speaker 3: you know, because they were so close.

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Speaker 2: What I tend to do when it's splitting hairs like

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Speaker 2: with with deserving candidates like this is I like to

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Speaker 2: have the which team would drop off a cliff more

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Speaker 2: if you took that guy away from them?

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Speaker 3: Especially for valuable in the converts.

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Speaker 2: It's not the Heisman Trophy, it's not the most outstanding.

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Speaker 2: I almost wish it was worded most outstanding player, as

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Speaker 2: opposed to the most valuable because that leaves a ton

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Speaker 2: open for interpretation.

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Speaker 3: Like Herbert has kind of a case in both out

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Speaker 3: you just Joe average quarterbacks in there.

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen maybe in that same right, that same that

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Speaker 2: I think it's Drake May slightly over Matthew Stafford because

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Speaker 2: I just I think the Rams are a better organization,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the tie breakers, I think favor May, except for

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Speaker 3: he played an easier schedule and Patriot played a very

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I would take I would take Davonte and

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Speaker 3: Better lines, better scheme, you know, right for sure?

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Speaker 2: For sure. So yeah, as much as I would love

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Speaker 2: for him. I think I'd give Drake May the slight edge,

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Speaker 2: as much as I hate to say that. Another another

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Speaker 2: another MVP quarterback in New England.

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Speaker 3: In the second season. All right, Jerks.

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Speaker 2: Gat offensive Player of the Year, Matt Does that go

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Speaker 2: to Puka Nukua? Or did he did? Missing? Missing time?

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Speaker 2: You go in Jackson?

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Speaker 3: But Jacoba has a really strong case pretty much start

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Speaker 2: He sure does. Taylor's no longer say Taylor kind of

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Speaker 2: fell off. What's funny is I've seen in these articles.

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Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of people mentioned in Trey McBride

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's had a historic tight end year.

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Speaker 2: But I think when your team's that bad and that

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Speaker 2: out of the playoff picture, I don't know if you

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Speaker 3: Award, like I don't think Offensive Player of the year, right,

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Speaker 3: Not to imagine, I mean you might have like a

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Speaker 3: I'm not bash and McBride, but he doesn't influence the

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Speaker 3: game like Gronk. Did you know? I think it's a

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Speaker 3: two horse race, two receivers.

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Speaker 2: I think it's between those two receivers.

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Speaker 2: No, I think I'll go Puka Nakua slightly over Jackson

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Speaker 2: was along the lines of most valuable, would get the award.

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Speaker 2: But offensive Player of the Year. You look at Puka

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Speaker 2: Nakua and what he's done and it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: It is ridiculous, like yards for route if you break

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Speaker 2: I agree with you on it.

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Speaker 3: Less around him, lesser quarterback, higher target share.

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Speaker 2: Agree with you on all those.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I'm going against my own logic here.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure who the better football player is. I

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Speaker 3: don't think he the one's the best wide receiver walking

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Speaker 2: I think Puka's a little more complete because he's really

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Speaker 2: Like he likes he likes the contact plays, big, likes

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna go slightly Smith and Jig.

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Speaker 2: I don't hate it. Yeah, I'll go Puka just so

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Speaker 2: we can be different. Kah Defensive Player of the Year

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Speaker 2: It's a real tough one to discuss. I guess the

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't bring up Will Anderson because obviously they're on

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Speaker 2: If this was a Heisman style yeah, yeah, you have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Simmons and I think Cam deserved to be first

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Speaker 2: And Will Anderson on the edge is the first teamers.

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Speaker 3: Parsons had a case if he had kept going, get

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Speaker 3: you know, but he was awesome. I would go Anderson

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is uh and all. I mean, all those

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Speaker 2: I don't think I know that would be getting a

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Speaker 3: So, Folks, everyone's been I mean you probably know by

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Speaker 2: Fair Matt, what might be the most difficult of all

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Speaker 2: these Coach of the Year. Oh, I know there are

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Speaker 2: so many.

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Speaker 3: About any of them as the clear number one.

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Speaker 2: I think the top three Ben Johnson, Kyle Shanahan, Mike McDonald.

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Speaker 3: I think Jacksonville has a case too, totally, Liam Cohen.

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Speaker 3: I think Vrabel has a case.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be too recentcy biased, because just

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Speaker 3: a week or so ago I said it was Shanahan,

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Speaker 3: and I know he just lost to McDonald. But boy,

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Speaker 3: just don't want to hold one game that if that

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Shanny. I mean that that was possibly

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Speaker 3: the best offense in the league. Did a party first,

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Speaker 3: Stratch didn't, a Kittle wide receiver has been a rotating door.

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Speaker 3: Trent Williams didn't play some. But boy, there's five or

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Speaker 3: six really good candidates.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm going Ben Johnson. And here's why sometimes

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Speaker 2: I rail on this, but I think it applies here.

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Speaker 2: The exceeded expectations and what you did with what you

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Speaker 2: had type thing like Seattle, I mean, like went to

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Speaker 2: the playoffs before McDaniel got there, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I think I picked them to be a playoff team

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Speaker 3: this year. I didn't pick them to the one seed,

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Speaker 3: but I picked them to be a playoff team.

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Speaker 2: Like they made the playoffs in twenty two. They went

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Speaker 2: nine to eight in twenty three. So it's not like

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Speaker 2: They haven't sniffed double digit win seed in some postseason

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Speaker 3: And it's always a weird war.

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Speaker 2: It's always a weird because how do you judge it

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Speaker 2: Not bad, not bad. Yeah, there have been examples like

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Part of it's like, because you were so bad

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Speaker 2: Some of it has been you know, like Damar Hamlin

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Speaker 3: Like there's yeah, there's not Lacko won when he came

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Speaker 2: Would have taken them to the playoffs, there's not. This

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, So who are some names.

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Speaker 2: I think Aaron Rodgers should be getting some love in

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely. Aiden Hutchinson's a good one. Chris o'lave is

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Speaker 2: I mean eleven hundred yards.

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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott's the new favorite.

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Speaker 2: I could see that because he's he's another he's another

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a great year.

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Speaker 2: He was outstanding. I mean, they're they're the attention on

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Speaker 3: He was out Christian McCaffrey's mentioned on this article, which

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Speaker 2: You know, I might go wading Hutchinson Okay, is tough though, man,

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Speaker 2: I agree with you on that. Protector of the Year

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Speaker 2: He was unbelievable and heading into the last year of

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Speaker 2: He goes on, He goes on ESPN every year and

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Speaker 2: And he had Aaron Brewer and staid he thought him

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Speaker 3: He the other name there and it was there the

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Speaker 3: He became a lot more consistent in Washington and became

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Speaker 3: Always those guys, and I'm with them. Lane Johnson is

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Speaker 3: time he can't do it. But his time was out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe Trovill, who knows? I mean, but I think Johnson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, with Brewer, I think it'd be very cool to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because a lot of people be like, who's that?

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Speaker 2: Who's that? Just with all the ups and downs they

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Speaker 3: you go for the Patriots to the Chiefs and now

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Speaker 3: he's with the Bears.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like he's never coming second.

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Speaker 2: Not bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

442
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Speaker 2: With Delon Dawkins deserve a shout in this in this conversation, second.

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Speaker 3: Or third team type guy maybe, I mean really good player.

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Speaker 2: I think it'd be really cool if Brewer won it. Yeah,

445
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Speaker 2: because this type of war typically goes to a tackle.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Seember center. The award is going to be

447
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 3: a thing last year, like it's always a go to

448
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Speaker 3: a left hack or right right.

449
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Speaker 2: Maybe not, and maybe some of these guards too will

450
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Speaker 2: work their way into the conversation coming down the home

451
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Speaker 2: stretch here, Matt Williamson, Rookie of the Years, Rookie of

452
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Speaker 2: the Years, it's.

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Speaker 3: Not very rookie class.

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Speaker 2: It is certainly not, certainly not what it's been these

455
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Speaker 2: past couple of years where there's been some really great

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Speaker 2: debates here, I think, particularly on the defensive side of

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Speaker 2: the football. So let's start there, because I think the

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Speaker 2: offensive Rookie of the Year is a little more fun conversation.

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Speaker 2: Let's save that for last defensive rookie of the year?

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Speaker 2: Is it Carson Swessinger of the Browns? Abdul Carder maybe

461
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Speaker 2: working his way into the conversation, swers might pick here's

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Speaker 2: from the Falcons. I feel like has been getting some love.

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Speaker 3: It's a bad group.

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Speaker 2: It's not at it really is. And like Carter and

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Speaker 2: Carson Swashinger are very good players, but they're not the

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Speaker 2: typical names that we're discussing in this conversation. Sweassenger. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't hate that.

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Speaker 3: He missed the game or two, but that's not that

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Speaker 3: big a deal.

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Speaker 2: For I know you've discussed this before. We've discussed this before.

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Speaker 2: Off Ball linebacker is one of the hardest positions to

472
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Speaker 2: transition from college to pro. It's it's underrated in that

473
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Speaker 2: regard how how much your game brain has to develop

474
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Speaker 2: and come along and catch up with.

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Speaker 3: Your skills set so much.

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Speaker 2: And for him to do what he's done in year one,

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Speaker 2: there all be it on a very good defense. I mean,

478
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Speaker 2: he got drafted a very good defense. But I think

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Speaker 2: I think he's I think he's the answer him Carter.

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Speaker 3: I would think, I don't really know who Carter was

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Speaker 3: kind of not even every down guy though Thibodeau and

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Speaker 3: Burns and him, they had rotate and Burns was second

483
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Speaker 3: league in sacks, and I mean he was good. It

484
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Speaker 3: was flash.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure there's like a third or fourth round

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Speaker 3: pick that like had a good year, you know that,

488
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Speaker 3: but not better than.

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Speaker 2: Even someone like Johan Campbell had a really hot start

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Speaker 2: off towards.

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Speaker 3: The Another one that kind of was a rotation with

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Speaker 3: j And.

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Speaker 2: If Derek Harmon would have been healthy all year, maybe

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Speaker 2: he'd be in this conversation.

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Speaker 3: He's in the conversation for best like defensive tackle. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm trying to go position by position in

497
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Speaker 3: my head, like who was the Another an honorable mention

498
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Speaker 3: is uh from the the from the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: From the Seahawks Heavy Impact, Xavier Watt's honorable mention.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean they would probably be your safeties, yeah,

501
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Speaker 3: and wries that Hamilton move will Chase Chess peace and

502
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Speaker 3: that McDonald slash Ravens defense.

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Speaker 2: Though not a great group, not not a great group.

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Speaker 2: They also mention the Niners Upton Stout as a as

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Speaker 2: someone who deserves a shout. That means a stout deserves

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Speaker 2: a shout. He's a he's a yeah, Matt Offensive Rookie

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Speaker 2: of the Year. Uh Teed McMillan, Tyler Warren.

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't be Warren for me, No, I think it's

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Speaker 3: McMillan or Shock.

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Speaker 2: Chuck is a great call, but it's so recent. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I put him ahead of Jackson Dart Oh yeah, head

512
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Speaker 2: award like the guy. The running backs like Henderson and Judkins.

513
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Speaker 2: I don't know if they had the complete body of work.

514
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: They all got hurt a Meccha Buka fell off, Luther

515
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Speaker 2: Burden I think started too late. Like great second. He

516
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Speaker 2: does that the whole year. He might win the award.

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Speaker 2: Tat McMillan, I mean my favorite picks, and I might

518
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Speaker 2: even throw them. I mean, playing worth the breath almost

519
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 2: is Membo and Zabel. They were both high, high quality

520
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Speaker 2: offensive linemen. They have no chance to win it. I

521
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Speaker 2: can't imagine offensive lineman winning that award ever, but that

522
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Speaker 2: they were the best. They deserve shouts.

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Speaker 3: Players amongst them. I think it'll be McMillan.

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Speaker 2: He is the only rookie in this class to finish

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Speaker 2: with over a thousand rushing or receiving yards is tat McMillan,

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Speaker 2: I know, the running back or receiver like I think

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Speaker 2: Tyler Warren was close. I think he had like almost

528
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Speaker 2: a nine hundred receiving yards, but McMillan the only one

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Speaker 2: in the rookie class to finish over a thousand yards

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Speaker 2: receiving or rushing.

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Speaker 3: I think he will win it, and he'd probably get

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Speaker 3: my vote as well. But I don't know if you

533
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Speaker 3: remember the Saquon Barkley's rookie year, Baker Mayfield end up

534
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Speaker 3: winning it that year, Yeah, yeah, but he didn't become

535
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Speaker 3: the starter until like week six for the Browns as

536
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Speaker 3: the first overall pick, and Barkley was good from the jumps,

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Speaker 3: I meant, right off the bat, and they gave it

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Speaker 3: to the quarterback, which I thought Barkley deserved it at

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Speaker 3: the time.

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Speaker 2: Tigers to the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Quarterbacks, right, and Chuck's got a decent case considering the

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Speaker 3: competition this year.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, maybe maybe winning last week would have really helped

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Speaker 2: his case, but I think you're right, he absolutely deserves

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Speaker 2: to be in the conversation.

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Speaker 3: They almost won their last five, He won their last five.

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Speaker 2: One loss was like a field goal game to the fountains.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and if he were to end on a

549
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Speaker 3: five game winning streak, that's pretty strong.

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Speaker 2: It is, it is, And what you do down the

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Speaker 2: stretch is more heavy weighted than what you did. You

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Speaker 2: know in October certainly, But there's some thoughts on the

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Speaker 2: NFL Awards that we'll find out here in just a

554
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Speaker 2: few weeks before we completely turn all of our focus

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Speaker 2: to the postseason. One more segment to go when we

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Speaker 2: return here. On the other side, we'll cross some te's dot,

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Speaker 2: some eyes, get to some of your tweets of the

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Speaker 2: week as well. We'll do all of that when we return.

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Speaker 2: What's you aler at, Matt Williamson. It is the Drive

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Final segment here of the Drive on this Wednesday, as

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Speaker 2: we are getting closer and closer to wild Card weekend,

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow will have our first semi final college football playoff game.

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Speaker 2: As we mentioned, we'll spend a few minutes, nothing crazy

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Speaker 2: because all eyes will be on Steelers Texans, but we'll

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Speaker 2: spend a few minutes, Yeah, two days. Yeah, and we

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Speaker 2: got to talk a little bit about Ty Simpson as well.

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Speaker 3: And the four quarterbacks are still left all or draft

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Speaker 3: relevant at least.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they could all be top fifty picks in the

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Speaker 2: upcoming NFL Draft. I do want to get to some tweets,

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Speaker 2: but Matt, this caught my eye here when I was

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Speaker 2: kind of just scrolling through during break. NFL dot com

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Speaker 2: posted one potential fatal flaw for every team in the playoffs. Okay,

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Speaker 2: and I'm laughing because what they put for the Broncos

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Speaker 2: was their run game, which was something that we discussed

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Speaker 2: when we were talking about Drake May. We talked about

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Speaker 2: how he doesn't have that, you know, reliable of a

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Speaker 2: run game to lean on, and could that end up

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Speaker 2: costing him? Could that end up be the difference. So

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Speaker 2: before we get to some of these tweets, I just

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Speaker 2: wanted to roll through the rest of these and see

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Speaker 2: what you thought. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fatal flaw Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Yes, according to NFL dot com, one potential fatal flaw

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Speaker 2: for every team in the playoff Patriots red zone defense.

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Speaker 3: I'm not on top of it enough.

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Speaker 2: That's very that is very detailed, but they have the

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Speaker 2: third worst red zone defense in the league. They're the

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Speaker 2: only team only team in the bottom ten of red

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Speaker 2: zone defense to make the postmakers.

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Speaker 3: That's a good one.

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Speaker 2: They allowed twelve touchdowns on fifteen red zone drives against

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Speaker 2: other teams in the postseason. Would call it, wouldn't call

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Speaker 2: that great?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Number three the Jacksonville Jaguars. Here biggest weakness fading rushing game.

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Speaker 3: They're a tough one for me. I think they're pretty

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Speaker 3: well rounded. I don't think they're awesome in any just experience. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that wouldn't be a bad call either. I mean you

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Speaker 3: got a rookie head coach and a young quarterback, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, and then just a roster full of guys that

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Speaker 2: haven't done that. Yeah, but that is an interesting one

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Speaker 2: because you're right now that I think about it, they

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Speaker 2: don't have.

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Speaker 3: They don't have a glaring one to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they It might just be the cumulative cumulative, like,

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Speaker 2: are they elite in any area? And do they have

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Speaker 2: the experience? For the Steelers, Matt, this is not a

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Speaker 2: surprising one. Explosive plays, That's where I was going to

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Speaker 2: lack of them on offense, allowing them on defense.

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Speaker 3: A lot better. With the allowing part and they they

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Speaker 3: do get some explosive especially on the ground. It's better

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Speaker 3: than better.

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Speaker 2: It has been better, and hopefully with DK Metcalf that

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Speaker 2: will continue. But Aaron Rodgers five point nine air yards

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Speaker 2: per attempt lowest of any quarterback in the league. Next

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Speaker 2: lowest is Geno Smith at six point six.

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Speaker 3: Yep, I get it.

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair. I mean, we've talked about explosives

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Speaker 2: for the offense and the defense just about every single

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Speaker 2: Weekason he probably will once again in the off season.

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Speaker 2: The Houston Texans, the Steelers opponent offensive line, completely agree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I would say, if you want to break running

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Speaker 3: game more so, Yeah, it's not a great running game

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Speaker 3: at all. I think the line is still a huge

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Speaker 3: question mark.

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Speaker 2: It's not the albatross around their neck that it has

631
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Speaker 2: been the last two or three years, but it's horrible.

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Speaker 3: It's still bottom of the league.

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Speaker 2: It's still below average. Yeah. Uh. Houston also though, and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll talk about this red zone conversion rate

635
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Speaker 2: of just forty six percent, that's thirtieth in the National

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Speaker 2: Football League. And part of that is because you can't

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Speaker 2: run the ball in those tight spaces with the field.

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Speaker 2: When the field constricts Yeah, Buffalo Bill's biggest weakness one

639
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Speaker 2: potential fatal flaw lack of a go to target on offense. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I think that's well said.

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Speaker 3: I would say run defense is also right there too.

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Speaker 3: It's been a problem all year, but you really need

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Speaker 3: it's really nice to have a difference makeror mismatch outside receiver.

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Speaker 2: When and not even it doesn't even have to be

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Speaker 2: like a Jamar Chase Hall of Famer outlier. If you

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Speaker 2: gave them a Medcalf, a Metcalf, Higgins, yes, Zay Flowers even.

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Speaker 3: They might be the my pick to win at all.

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Speaker 2: Then it might be do we need to do that

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Speaker 2: before the week's over too, don't we?

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Speaker 3: We're gonna pick all our games.

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00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but just make a prediction of who's gonna win

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Speaker 2: it all before the sure, I think that's an easy

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00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: some of these teams, it's a little bit harder to

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Speaker 2: pick one. A lack of a dynamic playmaker not named

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Speaker 2: James Cook that that's not your running number seven. No

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Speaker 2: surprise here too. For the Chargers, what do you think

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Speaker 2: it is matter? It's the offensive.

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Speaker 3: Line, particularly protections horrible.

659
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: I mean they've been without Slater and Joe Alt forever

660
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: they've had more injuries since then. It's it's bad of

661
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: all the teams and their one potential fatal flaw. This

662
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: might be the biggest of of of everybody.

663
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 3: It's certainly the most obvious.

664
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: Yes, into the NFC Seattle Seahawks offensive turnovers.

665
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 3: That's a Darnold thing. I mentioned that when we were

666
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 3: talking quarterbacks. He makes three or four decisions where you're like,

667
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 3: what are you doing you? Yeah?

668
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, fourteen interceptions this year for Darnald, six fumbles lost

669
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: for twenty turnovers in seventeen games.

670
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: For him, Yeah, that could derail things.

671
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: He's also only pressured twenty nine percent of the time,

672
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: six lowest in the NFL on his pass attempt So

673
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: it's not like he's yeah, it's a Herbert situation or

674
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: a Stroud situation exactly. That's a pretty clear one for

675
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: Seattle too. Bears interesting potential fatal flaw. Leaky defense.

676
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 3: Okay, something on defense, I'm not sure.

677
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: Twenty eighth most yards allowed per game in the NFL

678
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: at three hundred and sixty two per game, that's a lot.

679
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, they could be another playoff experience type one most

680
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 3: but I definitely picked something on defense. They kind of

681
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: made a nice.

682
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: Broad Yeah, I would have probably gone lack a reliance

683
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: on turnovers on defense. I guess this fits into that

684
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: conversation too.

685
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: A big thing in the playoffs too. It's great to

686
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: have a pass rush or pass rusher that can close

687
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 3: out a game for you, you know, bringing Rivera out of

688
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: the pen. They don't really have that.

689
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: They do not know, they do not They don't have

690
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: the Chris Jones, they don't have the dynamic guys that

691
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: the Eagles have had. They allow three hundred and sixty

692
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: two yards per game, twenty eighth in the NFL, twenty

693
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: four and a half points per game, the most of

694
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: any team that is qualified for the postseason Philadelphia Eagles

695
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: at number three. Fading disappearing offense.

696
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 3: It has to be something offense, agree. I mean it's

697
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 3: probably a little rough to say quarterback.

698
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: I might say rush game, but that means hurts, that

699
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: means the offensive line. Yeah, but I think I think

700
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: fading offense. Yeah, Like, does Lane Johnson still have it

701
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: in the tank to be Lane Johnson for three or

702
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: four games?

703
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: I think he'll be back. And they did rest everybody,

704
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: which could help, you know in that that situation.

705
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting. It'll be interesting. But that defense

706
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: pretty stinking good, really good. They can get the other

707
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: side of the ball, move and they will be dangerous

708
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: once again. Carolina Panthers biggest fatal flaw passing attack.

709
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure what.

710
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: There's a lot you could list there for those guys.

711
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah again, there, quarter back play, passing attack.

712
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 3: I mean, they'd be lasting a lot of categories. You know,

713
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 3: it'd be harder to say whether it's strengths.

714
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, defense is good.

715
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 3: It's fine, but yeah, I mean, none of them are

716
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 3: not elite, but it's it's good. You know, like the

717
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 3: Texans could ride their defense to a Super Bowl championship.

718
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 3: I don't think Carolina could ride any aspect of their

719
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: team too. An NFC championship game.

720
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: You don't look at it and you go, this is

721
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: where they cut their teeth. At least they can do this.

722
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 3: Like maybe they beat the Rams. If they turned Stafford

723
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 3: over four times and have a kickoff return.

724
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: For a touch, you're gonna be saying the same thing

725
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: the next week.

726
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: And then the next week they're gonna be a ten

727
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 3: point dog again. You know.

728
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: Number five in the NFC, the Los Angeles rams, Matt.

729
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: This is probably the most encouraging of all the potential

730
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: fatal flaws. Special teams.

731
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not great on there. You're thinking, who's will.

732
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: Change their kicker? Yeah, they've had They've allowed some fake

733
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: punts and some issues in the punt game.

734
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 3: They're also hard to find.

735
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 2: But the other stuff, that's your big potential fatal flaw,

736
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: that's a pretty good place to be usually.

737
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, not that it's not important totally. Absolutely, one of

738
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: their games is gonna come down to a kick, you know, Yes.

739
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: They always do this time of year. Number six, the

740
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: forty nine ers lack of a pass rush.

741
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 3: It's the worst pass rush going and the defense as

742
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 3: a whole is worrisome. A lot of youth, not a

743
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 3: lot of playmakers, but the pass rush in particular is

744
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: bottom of the.

745
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 2: League, especially without Bosa. Yeah yeah, yeah, uh you buying

746
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: Fred warnerback, by the way, I don't know, I don't know.

747
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: He's a freak man. Yeah yeah, if anyone could do it.

748
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 3: I think it's in they think this week or they're

749
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: talking like if they I think.

750
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: He said divisional round, okay, so it would be one

751
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 2: more week. I think he's saying and Finally, the Green

752
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: Bay Packers potential fatal flaw run defense.

753
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 3: Run defense, and we saw what Henry did against them,

754
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 3: and defense in general has been great post Parsons, but

755
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 3: the run deees a problem.

756
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: It is it is. And they traded Clark, you know,

757
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 2: back in the off season as part of that to

758
00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: get Parsons.

759
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 3: We forget about that part. You'd always hear up the middle.

760
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: You'd obviously make that decision again, Sure, but costs.

761
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got worse than an area. Wasn't just picks.

762
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: Yes, Uh. Some tweets here as we go to close

763
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 2: this thing down, Rodney tweets us and he says, hey, guys,

764
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: I'm not saying but I'm just saying, Dome teams in

765
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: the postseason, or sorry, Dome teams over the last decade

766
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 2: on the road in games below forty degrees one in fourteen,

767
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: really Dome teams in the last decade on the road.

768
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: Temperature below forty degrees one and fourteen. The predicted temperature

769
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: for Monday night, Matt Williamson, because I pulled up my

770
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: weather app here is twenty five degrees for the Steelers

771
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: around kickoff.

772
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 3: So just so happens, found this out this Morning Stroud

773
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: averages six point one yards per past outdoors this season

774
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 3: compared to seven point eight in the Dome. Who they

775
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 3: play a lot more Dome games.

776
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 2: I mean that's a real thing.

777
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, it's a real thing. Yeah.

778
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: You look at some of these guys, even someone like

779
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: Drew Brees, who is a no doubt all time great

780
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame quarterback.

781
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 3: Oh, it's way different than like Ben's career.

782
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 2: The year they went to the Super Bowl and won,

783
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 2: it was the year that they had were the one

784
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 2: seed and had the home field advantage.

785
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: They trying to bring up Ben because they basically were contemporaries.

786
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 3: Of course, you can make the argument who had a

787
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 3: better career, who did a better career, blah blah blah,

788
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: and they both were better for their respective city, then

789
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: the other one would have been you know what I mean.

790
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 3: But I get the odd to Ben just because I mean,

791
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 3: Breeze's passing numbers are in the NFC South and in

792
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: the Dome and.

793
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: Dome, and with the guy that everyone regards as one

794
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 2: of the greatest offensive mines in terms of had saches

795
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: in the NFL history, whereas Ben did it with a

796
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: defensive guy.

797
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 3: Do we have much time.

798
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: We got nothing but time.

799
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 3: Okay. I was asked this question on my podcast today

800
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: and I've been rattling around my skull and it was

801
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 3: with all these new stadiums going towards domes, yes, is

802
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 3: this late season playoff running game gonna be less important

803
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 3: than ever?

804
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 2: Possibly?

805
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: And we spent like ten minutes on this conversation. I

806
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 3: know we don't have that, but I just wanted to

807
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 3: put that out in this neck of the woods, I mean, Cleveland.

808
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: Buffalo, all that stuff, New England.

809
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 3: And then I started talking through it, talking.

810
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: About Phillies, talking about remodeling the link and yeah, retractable roof.

811
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 3: I'm shocked all those ones don't have retractables at least, you.

812
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 2: Know, because because they want those bigger city places too,

813
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: Like they want to host events, you know, they want

814
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 2: to host Super Bowls and concerts and final fours and

815
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: like that.

816
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 3: Well that brought me to this conversation too, like in

817
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 3: fifty years, will every stadium be a dome?

818
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 2: Probably?

819
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like hockey or basketball, or you know, are

820
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: we to talk about weather in this sport, Matt?

821
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: Are we gonna have newspapers and radio stations in fifty years?

822
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: Or is it just all gonna be podcasts and tiktoks.

823
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 3: I mean, like it's hard to predict the future, folks,

824
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 3: but things change drastically.

825
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 2: Look at really rectable stadiums in sports fifty years ago

826
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: compared to now, What do you think it's gonna be

827
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: like it?

828
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, I kind of lean that way.

829
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, yes, yeah, yeah.

830
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 3: And people are like, oh, that'd be terrible, But the

831
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: next generation will know any different.

832
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: You know their loss. Let's see here. Favorite c J

833
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 2: tweets us and says, after watching your Guys show yesterday,

834
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 2: listening to you talk about head coaching openings, any chance

835
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: you'd still choose the Titans or Raiders job over the

836
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: Ravens or is it now the best available opening? As

837
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 2: a Steelers fan, I really don't want Kevin Stefanski to

838
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: end up in Baltimore.

839
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 3: No, Ravens are definitely my one.

840
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 2: We did. We talked about that a little bit earlier.

841
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 3: Than one if it's a male or female, but mentioned Raiders.

842
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: Raiders are still distant last for me? Is it? Yeah?

843
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: See, I think I'd rather have that job than the Cardinals.

844
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: Cardinals bad Brown is bad. I mean, the these are

845
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 3: the worst.

846
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 2: The thing with the Raiders is at least you're getting

847
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: a blank slate, like you can go and take Fernando

848
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: Mendoza or Dante Moore. Yeah, you want to go. You've

849
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: got brock Bauers and Ashton Gent But.

850
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 3: That's like two good players and positions of aren't true.

851
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: That's true. But like in Cleveland, everything you do, every

852
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: decision you make is going to be hyper scrutinized. In Vegas,

853
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: you got I don't know. It's an interesting conversation, but

854
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 2: the Ravens is definitely number one of all the open jobs.

855
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 3: Right, you get to work at Lamar, right?

856
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: Uh?

857
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: Steele Curtin says, do you think? Asks us if any

858
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 2: of the reasoning behind Stefanski's firing is him being at

859
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: odds with the organization over Shador Sanders after he already

860
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: didn't want the Sean Watson and now the organization is

861
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 2: saddling him with another quarterback he did not want.

862
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: That's definitely possible.

863
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's ever happy to get fired, but

864
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 2: I think Stefanski might be greener for him. On the

865
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: on the other side, Uh, I.

866
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 3: Mean, I think he'd be great for cam Ward Jackson Dart.

867
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: I mean, let alone like a Lamar, but like a

868
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: young quarterback that's in place already. I think he'd be

869
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: great and I absolutely absolutely see him in Baltimore. But

870
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: you talk about waking up on the Rider's side of life,

871
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 3: you know, man.

872
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: Christopher tweets us and says, can you guys remember a

873
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 2: team having a more insane ending of the season like

874
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: the Steelers just had Detroit a gold to goal situation

875
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: came down to the last play of the game. Cleveland

876
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: gold to goal situation came down to the last play

877
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 2: of the game except for one irrelevant kneel down. Baltimore

878
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Speaker 2: came down to the last play of the game with

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00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: everything hanging in the balance over that three game stretch. Wow,

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00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 2: it's I mean, yeah, it's the wildest kind of down

881
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: the stretch that I could remember for the Steelers.

882
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 3: Steelers as long as I can remember, and certainly that

883
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 3: last game is as crazy as anyone's last game of

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Speaker 3: the season, without a.

885
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 2: Doubt, Without a doubt, it's.

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Speaker 3: A pretty crazy league. I mean, there's a lot of

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00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: teams that are dealing with nutty stuff down the road,

888
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: down the stretch year after year.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, uh JG tweets us and says, any concern about

890
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: Chris boswell Er is he's still the proverbial wizard of Boss.

891
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: I never was super concerned, but I was happy to

892
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 3: hear that that got deflected and he and just shank

893
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 3: and extra point.

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Speaker 2: Yes, now he missed a kick in Cleveland, he missed

895
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Speaker 2: a kick in Detroit. I wouldn't say I'm worried about Boss.

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Speaker 2: I might not. I might not think he's bulletproof, ironclad,

897
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 2: no questions asked, like he's been for the last handful

898
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Speaker 2: of years. But I'm not. I'm not panic. I feel

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Speaker 2: like I.

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Speaker 3: Walk away from the TV when he comes out, you know,

901
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't, but I feel like I don't

902
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 3: even have to. I put my head down, I start

903
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 3: typing or whatever. I don't know that I'll do that

904
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Speaker 3: on Monday night.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if. I don't know if I will

906
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Speaker 2: do uh. If I will do that either, we'll see.

907
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm uh, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: Along those lines, the Texans had the most field goals

909
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 3: made by a very wide margin in the league this year.

910
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 3: Did they Yeah, he made six last week, fair barn

911
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 3: and I think they had like seven or eight more

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00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 3: made field goals than any other team.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this, man, if it's going to

914
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Speaker 2: be a Texans team that's going to try and rely

915
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 2: heavily on their kicker to win Monday, that will go

916
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Speaker 2: in the Steelers favor in that weather, in those conditions games,

917
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Speaker 2: whichever team relies less on their kicker on Monday night

918
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Speaker 2: is a good thing just for the optics of finding

919
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Speaker 2: the back of the end zone. And of course because

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00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: in January at night time and the you know, the

921
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Speaker 2: confluence of rivers is not the most ideal place to

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Speaker 2: It's it's not a dome in Houston, Texas or a retractable,

923
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Speaker 2: retractable roof in Houston, Texas.

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Speaker 3: So back to that tweet real quick. I mean, if

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00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 3: it comes down to putting balls out there to win,

926
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Speaker 3: it a tough kick that's fifty nine yard or into

927
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Speaker 3: the open end, I wouldn't hesitate one bit.

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Speaker 2: Completely agree, completely agree. I think that's a good way

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Speaker 2: to wrap this thing up for the day. I enjoyed this.

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Speaker 2: We were all over the place a lot of different topics.

931
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Speaker 2: Tomorrow will narrow our focus a little bit here on

932
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: the program, we will dive into Matt's stats and really

933
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: start to preview matchups with the Houston Texans. Where are

934
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Speaker 2: they good? Where do they have the advantage? Where can

935
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: the Steelers make some hey cut their teeth and find

936
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Speaker 2: an advantage of their own. We'll get into all of that.

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Speaker 2: We'll also talk to the Great Bob Labriola for the

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Speaker 2: first time in a little while off. Yeah, we've missed

939
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Speaker 2: Labs these past couple Thursdays with some holidays and things

940
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: of that nature. So we'll catch up with the Demon Doo,

941
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Speaker 2: with the Dean of Doom and the Lord of Living

942
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Speaker 2: in his fears tomorrow on the show, as we will

943
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Speaker 2: really turn the page and start to focus a little

944
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: bit on the college football playoff and completely on wild

945
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Speaker 2: card weekend. That'll do it for us today. Thanks to

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Speaker 2: our buddy Chris Hallick for joining us. Thanks to Nathan

947
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: for producing on the radio side, Tyler V Mister TV

948
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Speaker 2: keeping us handsome on the video side of things for

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, um Wesheeler, Take care everybody, and we will

950
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Speaker 2: talk to the Inn's Tamairo as always. You know where

951
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 2: to find us. It's on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 2: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network.