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Speaker 1: All right, guys, welcome back to eyl Hometown Hero.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a special Hometown he edition.

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Speaker 1: This is a special Hometown Heroes.

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Speaker 4: You know, we did a hometowl Hero edition in Houston,

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Speaker 4: shout out to Eastown, but we're gonna take it where

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Speaker 4: we're from, Greenberg, New York.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the town for real.

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Speaker 1: For sure for Greenberg, New York. Very special place.

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Speaker 4: So we've actually already had two guests from our hometown radio.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Valve Valencia.

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Speaker 4: That was a great episode and we had Simon also one.

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Speaker 1: Of the partners in Curlfest.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, we were lucky enough to have two people

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Speaker 4: that we already grew up and went to high school with.

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Speaker 4: So now we got the o G from our neighborhood

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Speaker 4: big dog, mister, mister Greg Barnett. So first and foremost,

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Speaker 4: thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 5: Man, Well, thanks for having me man Pleasures on mine.

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Speaker 5: You know, you guys what, I'm excited first podcast I did,

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Speaker 5: so I'm doing so you know, let's get it done.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, as you guys know, you know, we talk

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Speaker 4: about sports entertainment a lot. That's kind of the whole

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Speaker 4: theme of the show, and well not the whole theme

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Speaker 4: of the show, but a major part of the show

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Speaker 4: is the backstories of sports entertainment. So this this interview

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Speaker 4: right here is right up Alley. Greg is an NFL agent.

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Speaker 4: He does a lot of other things as well. He's

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Speaker 4: an entrepreneur, he's a family man. He's involved in AAU

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Speaker 4: basketball villa estate investory.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot used to actually be a school teacher.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, you enjoyed. Also Jamaican too, So.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know how all Jamaicans ended up in Greenberg,

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Speaker 3: right right.

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Speaker 5: Right, I was born in the States with the whole family,

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Speaker 5: everybody in everybody Jamaican. I got married at Jamaica too.

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Speaker 4: Shout out at Jamaica, man, Jamaica. So le guard there.

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Speaker 4: That's the agency that you're.

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Speaker 5: With, right, correct.

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Speaker 4: And you got some some some some high profile clients.

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Speaker 4: You got Cayl Fuller who was a pre Pro Bowl last.

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Speaker 5: Year Pro Bowler last year Cal Fuller justin.

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Speaker 4: Houston, Sean Jones, you had Percy Harvin, the legend.

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Speaker 1: He was a client of yours.

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Speaker 5: So retired now, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about a lot of different things

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Speaker 4: We're gonna talk about, you know, the journey, uh from

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Speaker 1: How you got there.

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Speaker 4: But before we start, I wanted to kind of give

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Speaker 4: a little backstory and I think it's interesting. So you

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Speaker 4: started as a school teacher, correct, and but you always

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Speaker 4: had a passion for sports. So how did you transition

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Speaker 4: from being a school teacher to an NFL agent?

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Speaker 1: Like most people went and put that correct?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's interesting because when I started school teaching, I

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Speaker 5: and it was a sports marketing front, and I did.

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Speaker 5: I used to, you know, follow him around, drive up

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Speaker 5: Joe Siegel, who at that time, you know, was a

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so you started out and if it's that, and

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Speaker 6: a lot of times people get the misconception, right, they

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Speaker 5: Those who can't teach, No, those who can't do teach

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Speaker 3: We've heard that plenty of times.

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Speaker 6: But you said that you created your multi marketing like

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Speaker 6: firm their gym, right that you have from that position.

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Speaker 6: So I mean, like, that's that's like super inspiring because

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Speaker 6: a lot of times people think, like, oo, that's just

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Speaker 3: That's the gym class.

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Speaker 6: Meanwhile, like you're actually plotting something in your head that's bigger.

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Speaker 6: I think one of the great advantage is that we

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Speaker 6: to have fun. Like our job is just to make

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Speaker 6: sure that the kids have fun and they learn. But

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Speaker 6: most teachers think like this is it your mindset was like,

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Speaker 6: I'm thinking bigger, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, and and and I was telling, as I was

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Speaker 4: So what was the process of actually opening up a

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Speaker 4: you just you know, you had a background in sports, obviously.

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Speaker 5: Had a background in sport, basically you look for a spot,

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Speaker 4: You had you had some some teams like high school teams.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, a lot of local high school teams in

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Speaker 4: How big is sports in it because we're from New York,

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Speaker 5: In the South. It's not like well in the South,

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Speaker 4: So I'm glad you said that about the SEC because

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Speaker 4: I just made me think about something. So it's a

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Speaker 4: So we talked about the s C double A before.

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Speaker 4: As far as you know, they don't allow you to

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Speaker 5: To you know, they want to make all the money themselves.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So what's your what's your as an NFL agent?

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Speaker 4: Right right, what's your what's what's your take on the

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Speaker 4: that's going to turn out in the future. They can't

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Speaker 1: It broken.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's been working this far. A hope they

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Speaker 5: I'm hoping because they're getting rich. The guys that they're

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Speaker 5: they're they're millionaires and they're they're making all the money

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Speaker 5: off these athletes. And they say, Okay, they're getting a

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Speaker 5: free education. But that's that's not enough. You know, you

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Speaker 3: That was a solid one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Jalen Road is talking about you. I'm sitting there

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Speaker 5: trying to get food, but you know, my jersey is

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Speaker 5: in the bookstore selling. But yeah, I got to borrow

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Speaker 5: That that hit hard?

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Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, not for sure, So.

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Speaker 5: I hope it changes, you know, I think it will.

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Speaker 4: So like for you, for for your clients that that

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's gonna be hard to happen right away. Basketball,

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Speaker 5: you can pick three guys, three to five guys this

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Speaker 5: high school seniors. This may be about three stars, four stars.

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Speaker 5: That's like, you know how they rank you the totalest

441
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Speaker 5: five star. It's gonna be hard to get five star athletes.

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Speaker 5: As McDonald's all Americans to go to an HBCU.

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Speaker 1: We already know that.

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Speaker 5: But they're schools that these guys are picking over HBCUs.

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Speaker 5: That's not any better athletically or academically. You know, I'm

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Speaker 5: not gonna throw any schools under the bus, But if

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Speaker 5: you go to a colonial school or those type of schools,

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Speaker 5: why not go to HBCU. You know a lot of those,

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Speaker 5: a lot of HBCUs are beating those schools. Football is

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Speaker 5: gonna be harder because you know you're gonna it's more

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Speaker 5: of a team sport where you need a lot of

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Speaker 5: pieces to be successful. But you know, I have a

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Speaker 5: lot of guys, high school guys that work at work

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Speaker 5: out there in my gym, and you know they're up

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Speaker 5: there when I hear their their offerers are from like Georgia,

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Speaker 5: Southern Firman, Wafford, Tennessee, Chattanooga. I'm like, you know, those

457
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Speaker 5: type schools are equal to HBCUs. Go look at HBCUU.

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Speaker 5: You will have the time of your life here. I

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Speaker 5: mean everything from the everything from the female. I mean,

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Speaker 5: but you know, and like I tell my sons, you know,

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Speaker 5: if they're blessed enough to go make pro money doing something,

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Speaker 5: that's that's just a blessing. But other than that, go

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Speaker 5: to HBCU. Get yourself some friends. You're talking about that

464
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Speaker 5: the other day. Get get yourself some friends, you know,

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Speaker 5: Get yourself a group. He's he's majoring in accounting, he's

466
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Speaker 5: majoring in engineer, he's majoring in whatever it may be.

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Speaker 5: Form yourself for group. And when y'all get out of there,

468
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Speaker 5: get yourself a business. Start a business. I mean, same

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Speaker 5: thing Puffy there. Puffy put a lot, a lot of

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Speaker 5: his guys on from Howard.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm hearing about the story of the former

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Speaker 5: mayor here in Atlanta, Cassine Reed. He went to Howard,

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Speaker 5: you know when he got an office here, a lot

475
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Speaker 5: of his same friends, you know, he put on so

476
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Speaker 5: you know, get to click together and go for it.

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Speaker 5: That's what That's what I'm you.

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Speaker 1: Know, hoping for.

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Speaker 4: That's what you did too. In Baltimore. You was actually

480
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Speaker 4: had a production company. He was doing promotions, jo promotion,

481
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Speaker 4: and he was throwing parties, right we started.

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Speaker 5: As I actually I was I was still a student

483
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Speaker 5: and myself and two other of my classmates we started

484
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Speaker 5: a company called Living Life Entertainment. We was throwing hoo

485
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Speaker 5: homecoming parties, shows, we did shows, we did that was

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Speaker 5: that was what we did. We was a promotion company

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Speaker 5: and we did that from probably about ninety six to

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Speaker 5: about about two thousand and two thousand and one. So

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Speaker 5: is that your first dive into the business world. Yes.

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Speaker 5: Obviously I always say you study education, right and health science.

491
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Speaker 5: So yeah, that's where I learned how to hustle. When

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Speaker 5: I say hustle, you know legally, I mean, everybody when

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Speaker 5: they hear hustling, they think of a negative connotation. Hustle

494
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Speaker 5: is somebody who could get money on any type of level. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: And that's when we started, we college students. But shoot,

496
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Speaker 5: sometimes I was getting my refund checked, you know what

497
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Speaker 5: I mean, and go throwing that, throwing a party with that,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But that's where I learned

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Speaker 5: my business. I got my business foundation from and we

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Speaker 5: learned and there was a lot of losses with that,

501
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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So we learned from that.

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Speaker 5: So that was interesting.

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Speaker 1: That's dope. That's dope.

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Speaker 4: So all right, So now with the NFL, Right, so

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Speaker 4: we're gonna talk about the nitty gritty. But I had

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Speaker 4: a couple of things that I always had questions about.

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Speaker 4: When you hit a franchise tag, Okay, what does that mean?

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Speaker 5: Franchise tag? Each team can choose one player that's gonna

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Speaker 5: they can franchise tag. That one player is usually gonna

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Speaker 5: be one of the top players on their team that's

511
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Speaker 5: getting ready to be a free agent. When they franchise him,

512
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Speaker 5: they got to own his right. They own him and

513
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Speaker 5: the contract is guaranteed for that whole year, but you

514
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Speaker 5: have to pay him an average of the top five

515
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Speaker 5: salaries of his position. But while agents don't like it

516
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Speaker 5: and players don't like it, because if he's the top player,

517
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Speaker 5: is about time for him to hit that big contract

518
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Speaker 5: where he can get that big sign of ball. He's

519
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Speaker 5: a multi year contract, so it really holds him up.

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Speaker 5: That is something that's in favor for the teamanchise.

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Speaker 6: I think one of the most famous ones, and I'm

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Speaker 6: ashamed to admit it, but I'm a I'm a Washington

523
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Speaker 6: fan and this happened with Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 3: Okay, right, where they had to franchise him twice, right,

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Speaker 3: can you.

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Speaker 5: Can fis the franchisees a player twice?

527
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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 6: And so like the last time, it was like either

529
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Speaker 6: we're going to sign this guy to a long term

530
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Speaker 6: deal and give him thirty million, which he never was

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Speaker 6: worth it, but oh, we're.

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Speaker 5: Gonna have to let him go and they and now

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Speaker 5: he's the viks. Correct.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that so it's two years that you can

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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 5: You can do it two years in a row.

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So it is the average of five the top

539
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Speaker 5: five salaries of your at quarterback if you in that

540
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Speaker 5: case with Kirk Cousins. Okay, And it's the cap number.

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Speaker 5: It's not the actual what they make. It's the cap number.

542
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Speaker 5: And that's what a lot of people know. It's the cap.

543
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Speaker 5: It's still high enough high money. But what the cap

544
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Speaker 5: number is basically what your amount is that the team

545
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Speaker 5: gets charged per year year contract per that year.

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Speaker 4: If they go over the cap, they get penalized for that.

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Speaker 4: You can't go over the gap because like in basketball,

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Speaker 4: you can go over.

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Speaker 5: The baseball you got the luxury. Yeah, you know what

550
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Speaker 5: I mean? Like Yankees, they just went paid years off

551
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Speaker 5: for the next thirty years. They just say we're going

552
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Speaker 5: over our cap, so football.

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Speaker 4: You can't go over to gather, right, Okay, So all right?

554
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Speaker 4: So and then all NFL eight rookies have four year contracts.

555
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Speaker 5: Four year contracts. The first if your first round. The

556
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Speaker 5: team owns the option the fifth for the fifth year.

557
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Speaker 5: So basically, if your first year your if your first round,

558
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Speaker 5: first round, there there's a chance you could possibly be

559
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Speaker 5: there for seven years. You got your four years, they

560
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Speaker 5: optioned the fifth. They franchised after that.

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Speaker 1: So all right.

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Speaker 4: So one thing I was always curious about because a

563
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Speaker 4: lot of time fans from the outside, they don't fully

564
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Speaker 4: understand how this thing works. Right, So like a Zeke Elliott, right,

565
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Speaker 4: who I think he was in his third year and

566
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Speaker 4: then he he sits out, but they always do it

567
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Speaker 4: the year before the fourth year, right, and.

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Speaker 5: Well this case, I mean.

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Speaker 1: Third, right, right?

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Speaker 5: Third? Sure?

571
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Speaker 4: But yeah, so how does that work as far as

572
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Speaker 4: like a player sitting out an entire season, Like I

573
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Speaker 4: think Le'Veon Bell did that?

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Speaker 3: Right? Did that last year?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Like as an agent, would you ever recommend your client

577
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Speaker 4: do that? Or how would you feel if your client

578
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Speaker 4: did that?

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Speaker 5: Each each situation is different, each situation. Some you're not

580
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Speaker 5: going to lose. Some of you're not going to win,

581
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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Some you gonna have to

582
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Speaker 5: play that year. You know, Le'Veon sat out of here.

583
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Speaker 5: But however, he lost money. You know, he lost money.

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Speaker 6: So there's been some recent comments where we watch the

585
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Speaker 6: NBA off season where players are kind of dictating where

586
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Speaker 6: they want to go, and now they's talk of the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Put your thoughts on that, right, because we got like,

588
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Speaker 3: even's good.

589
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Speaker 5: I think it's good. I mean I think you know,

590
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Speaker 5: I don't think the player. You know, you don't want

591
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Speaker 5: to every time you get in an argument with the coach,

592
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Speaker 5: trade me. But you know, right now the owners have

593
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Speaker 5: too much power. I mean, I'm hoping this new CBA

594
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Speaker 5: it's more a player friendly, you know what I mean.

595
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Speaker 5: So I like the fact that you know you'll be

596
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Speaker 5: able to trade or demand the trade if you're good

597
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Speaker 5: enough you know, to go on to another situation.

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Speaker 4: So one thing we was talking about off came also

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Speaker 4: is a lot of time people don't fully understand like

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Speaker 4: if you're a top player, I think, like top ten

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Speaker 4: draft pick, you can have a Lloyd's of London insurance contract, right,

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Speaker 4: and they kind of.

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Speaker 5: Like, now you're talking about when you're in college.

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Speaker 1: College.

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Speaker 5: Acted probably in the first two to three rounds you

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00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 5: can get. They'll carry you in college, yes, okay, and

657
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 5: so that and that's like, and what the this is

658
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 5: an insurance policy, whereas if you get hurt during that

659
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 5: senior year, you're gonna get that money. Now, I haven't

660
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 5: known of anybody who has cashed out on any of

661
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 5: those yet they got a couple of different from what

662
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 5: I because that's not my feel I don't sell insurance

663
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 5: or anything like that. But from what I understand is

664
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 5: two or three different policies, Like there's a loss of

665
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 5: value whereas maybe you get hurt in the bowl game

666
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 5: and you was projected first round but you dropped a third.

667
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 5: But nobody has been paid on any of those policies yet,

668
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 5: and it's hard to really say, like to prove that

669
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 5: your value was long, because no one actually said you

670
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 5: was going to get drafted in the first round or

671
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 5: the top ten. So because mel kiper or somebody puts

672
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 5: that on his page, that's not that. I don't know

673
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 5: how that's going to stand up in an insurance case.

674
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 5: I don't know. That's not my field, so you know

675
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 5: what I mean. But I know a lot of the

676
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 5: schools are taking these policies out and paying for it

677
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 5: for the kids, which is good.

678
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 4: I think the quarterback of USC a few years ago,

679
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 4: I forget his name, but he had I know he

680
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 4: had a sizeable Lawyers of London contract.

681
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 5: Did he cash out?

682
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: Well, he never got he never got.

683
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 5: Hurt, he never got Well, there's a lot of players

684
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 5: getting it right now. I haven't heard of any that

685
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 5: has cashed out yet.

686
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 4: Though.

687
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, in terms of like guys like you said, melkypo

688
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 6: time and say how much weight do you put in

689
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 6: what they're saying.

690
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 3: And when you're looking at an athlete or a potential client,

691
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: I go to.

692
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 5: Him before I go to them. Now, I usually talk

693
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 5: to management. In the NFL, those guys are usually the

694
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 5: mal cop not not bad mouth in them or anything

695
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 5: like that, but you know, they're there for entertainment most

696
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 5: of the time, you know what I mean. So I

697
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 5: like to actually talk to the decision makers, those guys

698
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 5: who really gives me my ins and outs on you know,

699
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 5: who's worth and who's not to go after where certain

700
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 5: guys are projected. So that's who you know. And that's

701
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 5: because I've been in the business for eighteen years now,

702
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 5: so I have good connections where I can call people

703
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 5: and they can help me out with them like that.

704
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: So like, how all right, how does draft day work?

705
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 4: That's another thing because you see sometimes people it's like

706
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 4: a top ten draft pick and then they drop.

707
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: To like thirty.

708
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 5: That's the most stressful day.

709
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: And so like what makes somebody rise or.

710
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 5: It's just like they don't know, they'll know probably leading

711
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 5: up to the like last the next last couple of days,

712
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I was in the green

713
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 5: room a couple of times, you know, and it's stressful.

714
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 5: You know, you'd rather just have your client just watch

715
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 5: it at home, be honest with you, but you know

716
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 5: you sitting there. You know, teams teams lie, they lie,

717
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 5: they tell you they're going to draft the guy next thing,

718
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 5: you know, they don't, you know what I mean. So

719
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 5: it's stressful. Different things come up off the field, incidents

720
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 5: that might hurt a guy and have him drop things.

721
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 5: They dig they go dig in. They might like your film,

722
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 5: but then they might find something else, all about your

723
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 5: drug test that you failed at college. Things like that,

724
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 5: you know, your brushes with the law, things like that.

725
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 5: They monitor your social media. They might see some things

726
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 5: which is social media that they don't like. And those

727
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 5: are ways that can always drop you.

728
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: And you remember that Nember that happened to the dude

729
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: from an old miss old miss.

730
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: It was like.

731
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 3: His name.

732
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 5: Was projected.

733
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so surprised.

734
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, so all right, So I mean so but you right,

735
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 4: as an adult that's lived life, that has a family,

736
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 4: there's a wife, and you experienced different things. But to

737
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 4: your clients are nineteen and twenty years old, right, So like,

738
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 4: how is it working with with you know, young men

739
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 4: that our celebrities overnight and have a bunch of money

740
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 4: overnight and have people that are like psychologically what is

741
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 4: your role? Is it more of like a big brother,

742
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 4: a father figure, all of the above.

743
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 5: I don't try to be anybody's father, because I'm not

744
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 5: their father. When I ask these guys to hire me,

745
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 5: I ask them for their trust. You're hiring me from

746
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 5: my expertise and my experience, so you are the boss.

747
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 5: But also I want you to respect me. If you're

748
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 5: hiring me from my knowledge, respect me. All I can

749
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 5: do is tell you what I recommend and the consequences

750
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 5: of it's something. If you're gonna listen to me on that,

751
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 5: you understand that. So yeah, I would love to be

752
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 5: a big brother type guy. But every situation is different.

753
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 5: Some guys don't want that. Some guys just want you

754
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 5: to do all business. Some guys I'm closer to, some

755
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 5: guys I'm not that close to. So it's different things.

756
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 5: Other than the contract that you do, you're helping manage

757
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 5: these guys' life. I'm helping him transition from a college

758
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 5: athlete to a professional athlete. You might have a case

759
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 5: where this guy's living in Atlanta, Georgia his whole life

760
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 5: and go to school in the University of Georgia be

761
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 5: gets drafted by the Seattle Seahawks. You know what I mean.

762
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 5: Now you're on a whole different part of the country

763
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 5: and you got to know how to survive. When I

764
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 5: say survived, like, okay, NFL want you to playbook all

765
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 5: day long and all that. So who's gonna help you

766
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 5: go and find somewhere to stay, Who's gonna help you

767
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 5: transport your vehic your vehicles out there? Who's going to

768
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 5: help you get set up? And that's what I do.

769
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 5: That's why I'm on the road a lot. I like

770
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 5: to be a part of their life as much as

771
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 5: they allow me to outside of doing their contracts and

772
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 5: getting their endorsements and things like that. So I help

773
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 5: them transition from you know, a college student into a professional.

774
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 5: Like you said, they're bank accounts in some cases go

775
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 5: from one hundred dollars to three four point million overnight.

776
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 5: Now I'm not a financial advisor, but in terms of

777
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 5: doing everything else, I want to help them adapt today.

778
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: So how is it negotiating? All right? So you do contract?

779
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: How is contract negotiating? Is it easy? Because it's pretty

780
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: much straightforward right now?

781
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you what it is right now. In

782
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 5: NFL their first contract, the money is lotted. But also

783
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 5: there's the fault language that you got a nego.

784
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: What does that mean?

785
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 5: The fault language is ways that they can take away

786
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 5: your guarantees from you. So that's something that you got

787
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 5: to negotiate. That's something that you have to have in

788
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 5: there and make sure that the teams aren't putting things

789
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 5: in their easy ways for them to come and take

790
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 5: that money from you. You understand that. So you will

791
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 5: have a contract and you know, okay, he's gonna if

792
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 5: he gets suspended for head on collision whatever whatever it

793
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 5: may be, you could take X amount of dollars away

794
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 5: from it. So that's something that can be negotiated. Aunt

795
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 5: of money you're gonna get is already there. But the

796
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 5: ways that you can lose that money, that's why you

797
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 5: need to have a good agent that knows what he's doing.

798
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: So how can what's a few ways that you can

799
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: actually lose? Like, how can you, Oh, you give me.

800
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,479
Speaker 5: An example, how I got okay. Let's say, like I said,

801
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 5: he's just okay. Maybe you're in jail for over seventy

802
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 5: two hours, A big difference. Man, Okay, you get charged

803
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 5: with something, you're there and they keep you for over

804
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 5: seventy two others that means it's something different. And in

805
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 5: a regular contract, it might just say okay, if he's arrested,

806
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 5: he can lose a guarantee, but why not put in there, Okay,

807
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 5: such and such an hours because he can he can

808
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 5: you know, urinate in the street and get and put

809
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 5: it jail and get released on his own recon in

810
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 5: two three hours. So is that fair for him to

811
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 5: lose all that? And you know, we know something serious

812
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 5: if you're there for over seventy jo or something like that.

813
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 5: So there's different ways you gotta look at that and

814
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 5: try to get That's something important you said too. A

815
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 5: lot of times people see contracts, they seem play it.

816
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 5: It's one hundred million, but the signing BoatUS could be

817
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 5: sixty nine million. That's the only thing that they're guaranteed

818
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 5: in the contract. Well they're signing not necessarily because it's

819
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 5: all you know, you have contracts and it's called you know,

820
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 5: contracts are guaranteed and something called that size see skill

821
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 5: injury cap. So just because you see that he's getting

822
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 5: that that that sign and bo there could be more

823
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 5: to that that's guaranteed. There might be Okay, perfect example,

824
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 5: you know Antonio Brown, because they had thirty million, people

825
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 5: thought that was guaranteed. But as you see, he lost

826
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 5: that because it's something he did. He just had to

827
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 5: make that first day right, And you see what I'm saying.

828
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 5: So everything is not always guaranteed, and sometimes there's things

829
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 5: more guaranteed than others. You really have to read the

830
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 5: whole contract for me to tell you. You know, a

831
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 5: lot of times I get called, say, yo, is that

832
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 5: all guaranteed? That I just saw such and such a

833
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 5: sign Like, you know, I don't. I have to read

834
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 5: the contract because I mean, these contracts is anywhere from

835
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 5: seventeen pages to Bobby forty fifty pages. So there's so

836
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 5: many things in there that might you know, trigger you're guaranteed,

837
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 5: and some things that might not be guaranteed. So you

838
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 5: just don't know.

839
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 6: A few years ago, you had one of the biggest

840
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,959
Speaker 6: signings in the history, Yeah, the NFL for a defense player,

841
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 6: right just in Houston, just in Houston, right with the Chiefs.

842
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 5: Correct said it.

843
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 3: Was the most stressful day of your life. It was.

844
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 3: It was, it was.

845
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 5: It was the most stressful negotiation thus far, because there

846
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 5: was just you know, going back and forth with the

847
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 5: team getting the numbers right. We actually was negotiating from

848
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 5: that past October all the way to July fifteenth, which

849
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 5: was the last day because he was end up. He

850
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 5: had to be enfranchised dad, and it was up into

851
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 5: that July. You head up until July fifteenth to negotiate

852
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 5: the contract or you would have to play that one year.

853
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 5: So you know, we got it done in the twelve hour.

854
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: How much? How much was it?

855
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 5: It was one hundred and one total and fifty two guaranteed.

856
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 4: And all right, all right, so you can talk about

857
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 4: that deal, right because it's done pretty much, right, So

858
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 4: all right, so how does that work? So you got

859
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 4: one hundred and one total.

860
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 5: Totally if you play out the whole contract, which would

861
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 5: have been for eight years with the same team.

862
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: With that team, all he had to do. All he

863
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: had to do was play. He didn't have to reach

864
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl or as long as he all.

865
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 5: Language on that at all. Okay, right, But what you

866
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 5: got to realize is sometimes, okay, the first four years

867
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 5: is guarantee, which was that's what was considered the whole guarantee,

868
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 5: which was the fifty two million. So after that, as

869
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 5: you know, they can cut you, which they did with

870
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 5: those bigger salaries. Is about to start the hit.

871
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: They cut them.

872
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 5: They cut him, they released him in this past here

873
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 5: and I negotiated another extension for him. Well another contract firm,

874
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 5: which is a two year deal right now, and he's

875
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 5: with the Indianapols.

876
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 4: So you had all right, the contract is seventeen to

877
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 4: twenty something pages. You said you have a legal department

878
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 4: actually reached out.

879
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: You have a lawyer that you work with.

880
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 5: Well, I'm not a lawyer. I'm CBA, So I'm a

881
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 5: certified contract advisor I have. There's about four of us

882
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 5: on our team. I work with a guy by the

883
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 5: name of Joe Siegel, who is about far the most

884
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 5: powerful man in NFL negotiation business, you know what I mean.

885
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 5: So he's a lawyer. We also have another lawyer on

886
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 5: our team, and we have two other agents. So we

887
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 5: all look at our contracts together. But you know, we

888
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 5: so a negotiation. You know, you might have all of

889
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 5: us looking at one contract, circling different things. And you know,

890
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,479
Speaker 5: when you do a contract, it's not like some people

891
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 5: think that you're just at the table talking numbers. You know,

892
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 5: contracts is usually done you know via email. They send

893
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 5: the offer over, you know, we send it back. You know,

894
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 5: this is what we last for. You know, it goes

895
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 5: back and forth and then once the numbers get right,

896
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 5: then you got a lot. The language has to be right,

897
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 5: so there's a lot to it in a negotiation for

898
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 5: a contract.

899
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 6: And you spoke about having trust and one of the

900
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 6: things in your resume you had a family.

901
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you had a series of brothers right.

902
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 5: That had Yep, the Fuller family. I had Corey Fuller,

903
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 5: who are represented first out of Virginia Tech. He's a

904
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 5: wide receiver. He got drafted in the sixth round two

905
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 5: Detroit lines. After that, I had Kyle Fuller, who was

906
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 5: the first round cornerback drafted to Chicago Bears. And the

907
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 5: last one who's in his third year now four third year,

908
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 5: Kendall Fuller who's with the Kansas City Chiefs. And they

909
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 5: are older brothers who I did not represent. Vincent Fuller

910
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 5: was a draft pick with the Tennessee Titans. He's retired

911
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 5: now he's actually working as a lawyer.

912
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 3: And the four brothers, for all four.

913
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 5: Of them, they're all siblings. All their siblings made it

914
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 5: to the NFL.

915
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 4: Wow, So what do you feel about There was a

916
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 4: quarterback of the I think the Colts. He just made

917
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 4: news because he he did his own contract and actually

918
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 4: got someone on the podcast Brandon Copeland negotiated Huh Brisbane

919
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 4: yea and Brandon Copeland. He also negotiated his own contract too.

920
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 4: He was a guest on the podcast, So what would

921
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 4: you What do you think about players not utilizing agents

922
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 4: and doing it themselves.

923
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 5: Well, it's a little saying the girls. Anybody who re

924
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 5: presence yourself as a lawyer as a fool for a client.

925
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, if you have the background and

926
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 5: you know it, that's all found and Dandy, I know,

927
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 5: he put comments out there in the media that he

928
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 5: didn't want an agent BS and BS and on his behalf.

929
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 5: Why does his agent have to be BS and you

930
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 5: know this language. I didn't look on his contract, for say,

931
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 5: everybody just looks at the numbers, and he was probably

932
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 5: you know, I'm not talking about them, but he was

933
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 5: probably just gunn help me because they came and offer

934
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 5: him something. Because Andrew Luck He's like, oh, I'm taking that. Hey,

935
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 5: I don't know whatever whatever it was, And maybe he's

936
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 5: looking at like I want to go to get this

937
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 5: if luckis I don't know. I haven't looked at the contract,

938
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 5: but I just hope he's protected, protected because there are

939
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 5: ways that he can lose. I don't know what his

940
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 5: guarantees was or anything like that, and that's why we

941
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 5: earned our keep. That's where we earn number. But you

942
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 5: know too, each is all if you don't want to

943
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 5: use an agent, you know what I.

944
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: Mean for sure?

945
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 4: All right, So yeah, we got a lot of good

946
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: gyms on the on the NFL. So in the next time,

947
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 4: we're going to talk about correct bit preparing players for

948
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 4: the career after sports with some other stuff that you

949
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 4: do as well.

950
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: So you've been getting to that, all right.

951
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 4: So now in the last segment, we're going to talk

952
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 4: about life after football for your client, because that's something

953
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 4: that you're really passionate about. Is is like, you know,

954
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 4: one thing to be an NFL agent and you know,

955
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 4: to work with guys when they're actually in the league.

956
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 4: But as famous Sheikh Lops said, you're going to be

957
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 4: older a lot longer than you're going to be younger.

958
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 1: To the lock stay from Westchester also for sure for sure,

959
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: So what does that look like?

960
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 4: Because I know you were talking, that's something that you're

961
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 4: real passionate about as far as like you know, helping

962
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 4: them out and like even with charities and things of

963
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 4: that nature. So like, what's that look like having like

964
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 4: the career after football.

965
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 5: Well, right now, because I've been in about you know,

966
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 5: sixteen or eighteen years around that time, some of my

967
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 5: first guys some are already retired, but you know, some

968
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 5: of my bigger guys are now you know, starting to

969
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 5: come upon retirement. And like, for example, one guy, Percy Harvin,

970
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 5: has hired me. I used to be his agent when

971
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 5: he was in the league, and now he's hired me

972
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 5: to be his business man. And what's that doing is

973
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 5: basically finding businesses for them to start with or to

974
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 5: start up and to get involved with. Not managing their

975
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 5: money or anything like that. But like, for example, someone

976
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 5: wants to get into cannabis, someone wants to get into

977
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 5: real estate, someone wants to invest in tech. So just

978
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 5: working as a business manager. When I recruit these guys,

979
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 5: I ask them, you know, and I let them know

980
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 5: like this is something I love to do. I love

981
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 5: to work with athletes, and even when they're done playing,

982
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 5: hopefully it'll be an opportunity where I can continue to

983
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 5: work for them. I've gained that trust where they allow

984
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 5: me to help them with their businesses, you know, as

985
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 5: they're not playing anymore. It might be things simple as

986
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 5: just keeping their football camp going in the off season,

987
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 5: you know, or something like, you know, creating a golfing

988
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 5: event to give back to a charity or something like that.

989
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 5: So it's not just always doing things for profit, but

990
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 5: also getting their name out there. And I always try

991
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 5: to tell my guys, you know, do things for company

992
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 5: while you're maximize your worth while you're playing. Once you're

993
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 5: done playing, nobody cares about you, you know, unless you're

994
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 5: a Tom Brady type guy. Yeah, thirty seven super Bowls

995
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 5: or whatever, you know what I mean. But these companies

996
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 5: might not need you when you're done, So do little things.

997
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 5: I encourage them to do things to do speaking engagements

998
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 5: and things like that for a company, even though it

999
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 5: might not be paying anything, that's going to make a

1000
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 5: real difference for them. Do that because they'll remember that

1001
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 5: after you're done playing, and sometimes that could be the

1002
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 5: difference between you picking a job or a job picking

1003
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 5: you or career once you're done, you know what I mean.

1004
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 5: You want to be able to do what you want

1005
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 5: to do when you're done playing. So that's what I

1006
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 5: try to set up for them.

1007
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 3: So the average NFL career is short lived.

1008
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 6: Right, So these athletes could be done playing by twenty five,

1009
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 6: thirty years old.

1010
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 5: Easy.

1011
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 6: So what is the toughest thing as far as that

1012
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 6: transition period that you see with your athletes finding.

1013
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 5: Out what they want to do after football, what they

1014
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 5: want to do for them? You still got two thirds

1015
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 5: of your life, right what they're trying to give us?

1016
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 5: What about seventy five eighty five? Right now?

1017
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: You know?

1018
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 5: So what you're going to do and if you've done

1019
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 5: it twenty five, whether you're rich or not, you know,

1020
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 5: what are you going to do? Because even if you're rich,

1021
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 5: that money's gonna run out if you're not doing anything.

1022
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 5: So hopefully they have a good financial advisor and then

1023
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 5: they downsize and what they're you know, and they're they're living.

1024
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 5: You know, you don't, you never need three cars.

1025
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 4: But all right, So one thing I was curious about,

1026
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 4: what's the difference between negotiating contracts for players and negotiating

1027
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 4: endorsement deals, because that's something that you do as well

1028
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 4: as far as the agent is concerned, is endorsement.

1029
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 5: Negotiating is negotiating. So when you say negotiating a contract, well,

1030
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 5: what you mean by.

1031
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 4: That, like, well, like, as far as all right, friends,

1032
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 4: So like, all right, the NFL player and gets drafted

1033
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 4: and you have to negotiate the contract right right, and

1034
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 4: the guarantee and stuff like that. But then they they

1035
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 4: know Coca Cola wants to, you know, endorse them. So

1036
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 4: that's a different I would assume conversation, right, like, how

1037
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 4: does that more?

1038
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 5: Well, you're still selling your client to both you know,

1039
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 5: you're selling your client to a team. You're selling your

1040
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 5: client to a brand. A lot of times you got

1041
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 5: to make sure it's the right fit. But that that

1042
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 5: goes also with football also. You know, sometimes I guess

1043
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 5: the difference, but it's very similar because I was going

1044
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 5: to say, you got a brand like Coca Cola that

1045
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 5: might say he's the right fit for us. But just

1046
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 5: that and the third same thing with the Raiders, they

1047
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 5: might say he's the right fit for us. So I

1048
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 5: don't think it's too much different. Now, of course, the

1049
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 5: contracts are structured much different, and doing an endorsement contract

1050
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 5: you're not governed by anybody, so of course it's different.

1051
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 5: It's really just whatever you're a green and greening on

1052
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 5: in the language and the contract on what that brand

1053
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 5: is offering.

1054
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 3: The endorsement jails are a lot shorter. What is like

1055
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 3: the average term for an endorsement.

1056
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 5: I would say is a lot of that's year by year,

1057
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 5: you know, in most cases it's year by year, season

1058
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 5: by season. You know, you know, your average a pair

1059
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 5: of you know, shoe deal might be for about two years,

1060
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 5: maybe three years the most, something like that.

1061
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember Iverson had the legendary lifetime.

1062
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 5: Lifetime and now Lebron has.

1063
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 3: Now Lebron has a lifetime NI those days, you got

1064
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 3: to be super level there.

1065
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 5: You go right right where they know they're going to

1066
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 5: sell your likeness for years and years after.

1067
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 6: I think they just they just built the whole building

1068
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 6: building for where at the Nike Nike I saw that.

1069
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 5: Something like that.

1070
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 4: So, all right, speaking about Lebron, So you're a football

1071
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 4: guy and he played football, and you're a football agent,

1072
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 4: but you have ties in basketball also AU circuit. I

1073
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 4: know your son's played AU and you've been around basketball level.

1074
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 5: That was actually, yeah, I love it a.

1075
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: Long time, probably longer than you played the football right

1076
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: all the same time.

1077
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 5: Time eight nine years old, seven eight years old, that's

1078
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 5: you know. But of course I made my living playing football.

1079
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 5: When I say living, got scholarship So.

1080
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 4: As far as AAU is concerned for basketball, when you're

1081
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 4: talking off camera, like how big it is, and a

1082
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 4: lot of times people don't fully understand, Like can you

1083
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 4: just like briefly talk about that, Like what's the influence

1084
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 4: of AAU on college basketball?

1085
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 5: And just a big business right now. It's a big business.

1086
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 5: And that's where you you know, you heard all the

1087
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 5: corrupt things that was going on, you know, and the

1088
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 5: charges or the fence came in and you know, the

1089
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 5: whole the whole thing with our Adidas and couple of

1090
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 5: college coaches, you know what I mean. It's such a

1091
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 5: big bottom line. These brands want kids in their brands.

1092
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 5: There their big picture is to make money off a

1093
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 5: player once they become pro. They need the next Lebron,

1094
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 5: They need the next Alan Moblinson, like you said, and

1095
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 5: that's how they make their money. They need the next

1096
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 5: or under Armour wants the next stuff, the next steph current.

1097
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 5: So what they do they go out and sponsor AAU

1098
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 5: teams and they give them a lot of product and

1099
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 5: pay for them to travel and hopefully that will funnel

1100
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 5: them to their brand college and it goes from there.

1101
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 5: Hopefully at the end of the day, they get that

1102
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 5: player wearing their shoes, they're going to sell those shoes

1103
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 5: for X amount of dollars and they.

1104
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 3: Make It's like that influence that will live with them.

1105
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 6: So like eleven, when we gave you all those niggas,

1106
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 6: right now you're eighteen, right, and they get directed towards

1107
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,479
Speaker 6: schools too, right, So like they have the a you can't,

1108
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 6: they're not supposed to.

1109
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 5: But that's what's going on.

1110
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 4: You you know, because like an Adidas school and then

1111
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 4: you had Adidas High school.

1112
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: Now you go to.

1113
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 5: Adidas Grassroots exactly the day you signed with Adidas, and

1114
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 5: they they give.

1115
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 4: It's like it's like it's like another person from our

1116
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 4: town that you may not know be from our town.

1117
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: Jonathan Well, I know.

1118
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 5: Is his dad. I knew of you know, knew we

1119
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 5: worked out a couple of times the Mets. Yeah, yeah,

1120
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 5: because he was with the Mets when I used to

1121
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 5: work out before. Yeah.

1122
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was a coincidence or not,

1123
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 4: but obviously he went to Louisville, which is which is

1124
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 4: Ada school, and now he's Adida is one of the

1125
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 4: premium athletes.

1126
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, he has his own shoe, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1127
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 5: yeah for sure, so shout to him to send me

1128
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 5: something from my kids.

1129
00:50:58,239 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: For sure? For sure.

1130
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 4: So all right, so oh okay, as far as you

1131
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 4: know picking an agent, right, we're gonna we're gonna end

1132
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 4: it with this. What what should have Because a lot

1133
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 4: of guys in the league listen to us, and a

1134
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 4: lot of aspiring guys, you know, have dreams of going

1135
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 4: to the league, and even parents and things of that nature.

1136
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 4: What should somebody look at when they're evaluating picking an agent,

1137
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 4: Like in your opinion, like, how do you do that?

1138
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 5: You want to make sure he's experienced. You don't want

1139
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 5: to be a guinea pig, you know what I mean.

1140
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 5: If you blow your knee out, you're gonna go and

1141
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 5: get surgery by the guy who did three thousand surgeries,

1142
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 5: or you're gonna go with the guy who just did

1143
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 5: one surgery. You know what I mean? Now, how does

1144
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 5: that guy with that one surgery get? You know, known,

1145
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 5: you got to work on just somebody who was doing

1146
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 5: a lot and eventually, like you said, get your break.

1147
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 5: But you don't want to be a guinea pig, that's

1148
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 5: number one. So you want to go with somebody with

1149
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 5: ex experience, expertise, and you want them to have power.

1150
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 5: You want them to have juice to be able to

1151
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 5: talk for you in the league. You know, the owners

1152
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 5: aren't your friend, you know what I mean, So you

1153
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 5: want to go and do contracts for yourself. They know

1154
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 5: they love it, They would love that. They love when

1155
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 5: they hear the mom is working as an agent or

1156
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 5: he's going to represent themselves because they're gonna take advantage

1157
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 5: of you. And then for the most important point, once

1158
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 5: you get past that, somebody you can relate to and

1159
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 5: you can trust when you sign with them. You can't

1160
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 5: trust them at that point yet if you just met them,

1161
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 5: uh during the recruiting process. So that's going to come

1162
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 5: with time. But somebody who's that guy you you can

1163
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 5: you have the least trust issues with and that you

1164
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 5: have a relationship with. Everybody's different sometimes, I mean, we

1165
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 5: just don't click some guys out here right off, you know,

1166
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 5: and you can feel it sometimes. I mean, so everything's different.

1167
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 5: Everybody's different. But going you want to look for somebody

1168
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 5: you can relate to and you can trust.

1169
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: That's for the most part, that's dope.

1170
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 4: Man.

1171
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: So once again, man, thank you for joining us a

1172
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: special hometown.

1173
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 5: Guys in my hometown elementary school when I was getting

1174
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 5: out of coming out of high school.

1175
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 4: For sure, for sure. So it's good to you know,

1176
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 4: have roma. It's good to have role models and hopefully

1177
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 4: we could see you to do what you did. You know,

1178
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 4: give the inspiration to people younger than us and even

1179
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 4: people older than us. You know, you can never be

1180
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 4: ashamed to learn from somebody, no matter what age they are.

1181
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 4: So how can the people contact you? And what's should

1182
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 4: you have any initiatives or anything going on that you

1183
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 4: want to make people aware of?

1184
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 5: Not right now? You know, right now, you know a couple,

1185
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 5: couple of business and devins throughout Atlanta, but you know,

1186
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 5: nothing where I need to promote. Right now, my main

1187
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 5: focus is being the best NFL agent I can. You know,

1188
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 5: I'm a family man. You know, I'm you know, uh

1189
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 5: married with two kids. You know, I didn't mention that

1190
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 5: before I got eight year old son and a twelve

1191
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 5: year old son. They have you in sports. And I

1192
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 5: have a wife, Katrine Us. She works in school system.

1193
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 5: She's a media specialist. She loves doing that. So you know,

1194
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 5: right now that's my focus, being the best you know,

1195
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 5: husband and I can do and dad and you know,

1196
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 5: focusing on being an NFL agent and see where it

1197
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 5: takes me in my upper years. You know, I love

1198
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 5: working with athletes, you know.

1199
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 3: What I mean?

1200
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, sure choice.

1201
00:53:58,680 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1202
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 6: So shout out to everybody on our Patreon that's patreon

1203
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 6: dot com, Backslash and your Leisure. That's our proud of

1204
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 6: pay program. We said there are five tiers. You can

1205
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 6: join any tier. We have new members every week, man,

1206
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 6: So we just want to give a huge shout out

1207
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,959
Speaker 6: to them. They allow us to come to different cities,

1208
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 6: come to Atlanta, come to Chicago, go to LA and

1209
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 6: Houston and have networking events. So shout out to y'all.

1210
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 6: Continue to support that, continue to support the merch. We

1211
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 6: have our tour merch up there now, so check out

1212
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 6: the new site, the new design site. Shout everybody that

1213
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 6: was behind that getting that, getting that out. So when

1214
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 6: we went to Houston, people were asking how we get

1215
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 6: the EYL Houston toy shirt is now available, So make

1216
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 6: sure y'all go cop that.

1217
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 3: Cop the Chicago one. Yeah man. Keep supporting that.

1218
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And once again shout out to the to

1219
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 4: the city of Atlanta. It's always a good time when

1220
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 4: we're out here, and shout out to the town of Greenberg.

1221
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 4: That's where we come from. Yeah, very special place, very

1222
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 4: funny place.

1223
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 5: And just know you guys are safe here in Atlanta.

1224
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 3: Shout out to Mike Man.

1225
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: My book.

1226
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 4: Tip of the week is Sole Influence, and that talks

1227
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 4: about grassroots basketball. Just kind of piggyback in all conversation

1228
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 4: that we had on AAU basketball. And once again, especially

1229
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 4: for parents a lot of times. You know, I'm a

1230
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 4: parent myself and my son plays basketball. Now he's talking

1231
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 4: about he wants to be on AAU teams and things

1232
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 4: of that nature. So it's a very competitive landscape. But

1233
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 4: unfortunately it's a lot of corruption like all things, so

1234
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 4: you just got to navigate that. And it's also important

1235
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 4: for athletes to to not just play the game, but

1236
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 4: to understand that, you know, there's a there's a career

1237
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 4: after that and the flip side of that. And that's

1238
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 4: why every player that's coming into the league and all

1239
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 4: the parents and coaches you need to hilt my man, Greg,

1240
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 4: so you can set you up right. Yeah, yeah, for sure,

1241
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 4: for sure. So once again, thank you guys for rocking

1242
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 4: with us. We'll see you next week.

1243
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: Peace.

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