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Wherever you may be 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: and however you may be listening, Thanks for making us 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: part of your day and listen. I got a lot 13 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 1: of opinions on Kadie's burner account, it just hasn't been 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: verified yet. When it gets verified, I got all sorts 15 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: of opinions. So a lot of people in our space, 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: the talk show space, they don't like to get called out. 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: That's why I've always respected guys who don't play it safe, 18 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: who have big opinions. They don't care what you think. 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: They don't care about the pushback. They The bottom line is, 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: you can't worry about the critics. You can't worry about fans. 21 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: Do your prep. Let it rip, it lands where it lands. 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: And I saw this this morning. Caleb Williams. According to 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com, they looked at all the numbers, is 24 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: the NFC North's best quarterback? And my take was, no, 25 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: we're getting into a discussion if you count everything that 26 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams may very quickly be the best quarterback. You've 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: got to count everything with a quarterback, including the cost, 28 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: not including what a quarterback costs. There's a reason the 29 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: Bills have no Pro bowlers on defense and the and 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: the Bears have a stacked roster. It's because Caleb Williams 31 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: cost ten million a year. It's a three and a 32 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: half percent cap hit. Lamar Jackson's going to be a 33 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: twenty five percent cap hit if you count mobility and 34 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: health and arm and lack of turnover this year he 35 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: corrected negative plays. Is Caleb Williams. I don't care about resume. 36 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm not into past celebrations or pass failures. I'm into 37 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: projecting twenty twenty six Labor Day weekend? Is Caleb the 38 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: best quarterback in the league? Because discussing quarterbacks without also 39 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: acknowledging the cost is like doing your family budget when 40 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: you sit down with your wife and not counting the 41 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: maserati you bought last year without asking her. Yeah, it's 42 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: going to kind of screw up the budget. Not going 43 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: to have a nanny this year, not going to be 44 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: going to the movies much, forget second vacation, can't afford one. 45 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: I looked up the stats this morning. Only one quarterback 46 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: in the league had more big time throws twenty plus 47 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: throws than Caleb Williams. It wasn't Josh Allen Mahomes and 48 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't Lamar Jackson. Caleb Williams has the lowest interception 49 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: since he entered the league, better than Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, 50 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, and Josh Allen. He is now officially the 51 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: fastest quarterback on clock, better than Lamar, faster than Josh 52 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: Allen and oh by the way, he also had the 53 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: longest completion in the league last year. So if you 54 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: count everything and you have to count cost, there is 55 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: a reason Drake May, bow Nicks, Caleb Williams have really 56 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: good rosters and the Buffalo Bills don't have a pro bowler, 57 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: or why the Chiefs O line in run games stinks 58 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: if you're counting everything I said when he came into 59 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: this league. I said two things he won't get a 60 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: lot of credit for because he's so dynamic. There's so 61 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: much horsepower that you're in awe of watching him as 62 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: he never gets hurt, and he doesn't throw interceptions. That's 63 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: just the little stuff on the edges. Now he throws 64 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: the longest ball and is the fastest quarterback and has 65 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: the lowest interception rate and his three point five percent 66 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: against the cap. Now, once he's gotten rid of the 67 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: negative plays which he did last year, is he next year? 68 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: All things in the best quarterback in the league. You 69 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: can keep telling me about Josh Allen and Mahomes and 70 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, CJ. Stroud regressed. I think Lamar regressed this year. 71 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm not into resumes. I'm into projecting. And he's also 72 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: an ascending player. Go look at his last seven regular 73 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: season games last year. It was like fourteen touchdowns, two 74 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: picks something like that. So you know, when I hear 75 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: this stuff, if you're gonna count, and I think you 76 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: should for quarterback, I mean we have a trend in 77 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: this league. Highest paid quarterbacks take out Mahomes in twenty 78 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: twenty three. They don't make super bowls. They don't make 79 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: super bowls. Sam Darnold just did, Drake May did, Bo 80 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: Knicks should have. So if you're gonna count everything, and 81 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's like, how do you not count what 82 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: a quarterback costs? I said it all this year. Look 83 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: at the Bears roster offensively, It's stacked interior, O line, 84 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: right tackle, running back, depth, wide receiver, that Snowa's arc. 85 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: They got two everything. Here's Caleb on Max Crosby's podcast, 86 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: not talking about himself, but what he thinks he can 87 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: be part of with the Bears offense this year. 88 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 2: I really want to become the greatest offense this year. 89 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: That's that's really on my mind. 90 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: I think the average was thirty eight point five or 91 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 2: something like that of Denver. 92 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: At Peyton year we have fifty touchdowns. 93 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: I think he's thirty nine is the is the number? 94 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: You know, average score and so yes, so what we're 95 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 2: going for. 96 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it's crazy. You know, we we 97 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: when things are right in front of you. The NFL 98 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: is a hard cap league. Every dollar matters. So you 99 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: can tell me how great Josh Allen Is and I 100 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: can tell you too bad. We can't afford to go 101 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: get Max Crosby. You know who can the Bears Denver. 102 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: Now they're out from under Russell Wilson's cap hit. So 103 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: there you go. And I don't think that's hyperbolic. I 104 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: think the kids that good. The numbers are now all 105 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: coming in, big throws, speed, longest completion interception rate, they're 106 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: all coming in, and it's like, oh, they're better than 107 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: Josh and Lamar and Mahomes and Burrow. And he never 108 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: gets hurt. And now there's no negative plays. Okay, I'm 109 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: here for it. So I saw this. I'm working on 110 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: a project right now with a couple of people and 111 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of people, and it's one of those Hollywood projects. 112 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: And the difference is our show is great because J 113 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: McK and I can prep do the show, go home, 114 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: it's done. Hollywood's very glacial, and because of that, actors 115 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: can be very frustra to work with at times. It's 116 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: very slow. It's let me get into character, let me 117 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: contemplate what the motivation is for this character. And I'm like, bro, 118 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: let's go got a life to lead, cha cha? So 119 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: I see this story with Aaron Rodgers and Erin's always 120 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: been the most Hollywood of the quarterbacks Peyton Manning and 121 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Urgency. Aaron Rodgers is very much like Christopher 122 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: Walkin staring out a window. It will be amazing when 123 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: I get to it. So I see a story this morning, 124 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: former general manager urges the Steelers to move on from 125 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. And I don't think the general manager dislikes 126 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. This is a very urgent league, and Aaron's 127 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: a very casual guy, and I think that's much easier 128 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: to do when you're in your prime. You know, when 129 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: Aaron first exploded onto the scene, he was a little 130 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: like the very first flat screen TVs. WHOA, what is that? 131 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: You hang it on your wall? Like god, it's like 132 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: eighty eight inches, Like not that many people, if anybody 133 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: else you know in your group had the giant flat screen. 134 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: Now everybody has them, and they're not that special, and 135 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: it's kind of embarrassing if you don't. And it's so 136 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: it's like something to not necessarily brag about. They're kind 137 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: of giving them away. And that's how I kind of 138 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: look at Aaron. Aaron's casual nature was much cooler when 139 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: he was much better, and I thought he had a 140 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: really good year. But I'm i'm I'm thinking about Mike 141 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: McCarthy's building his staff. Free agency starts in three weeks. 142 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: It's like, Aaron, you're forty two years old. There are 143 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: certain things By the time you're forty two, you mostly 144 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: give a quick answer to, like, Hey, do you want 145 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: to come back for your job? Do you like it here? 146 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: What do we got to pay you? That stuff's harder 147 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: at twenty, and maybe it's hard eighty, but when you're 148 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: like when you're a pro athlete at forty, you kind 149 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: of know when a season ends. I don't want to 150 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: go to that again. I don't want to get hit again. 151 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: I'm not into it. So I it's you got you know, 152 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: Albert Breer on Monday on the I would go get 153 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: Malie Willis And it's nothing against Aaron, who I defend 154 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,479 Speaker 1: it all year. But it's like, bro, this whole Hollywood 155 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: casual indifferent thing. I mean, Tom Brady is LFG, Aaron 156 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: Rodgers is LFC. Let's f and chill, and I think 157 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: that's much easier when you're in your prime. Here's Albert 158 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: Breer on if the Steelers should wait for ar. 159 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 3: I know the Steelers like Will Howard. 160 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 4: I don't they like him to the level where it's like, 161 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 4: we're not going to do anything else at. 162 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 3: Quarterback, you know. 163 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 4: And then if you are going to wait for him, 164 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 4: the problem is then all that quarterback movement that happens 165 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 4: in the middle of March. I mean you could be 166 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 4: left with you know, everybody's got their seat, you know, 167 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 4: in the game of musical chairs, and you're left with nothing. 168 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 4: I don't think Art Rooney wants to be bad this year. 169 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 4: I don't think he wants to bought him out. I 170 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 4: think bringing in Mike McCarthy as the head coach tells you, 171 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 4: you know, implicitly that they do not want to go 172 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: through the full rebuild all at once. Go be bad 173 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 4: for a couple of years and draft a quarterback. 174 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. When I read this story, I think to myself, 175 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: the whole casualness is is it works for actors. It 176 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: works when you're in your prime as an athlete. I 177 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: it would drive me insane if I was Mike McCarthy. 178 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out the draft. I got free agency, 179 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking at film, I'm trying to figure out my roster, 180 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: and the most important position is I'll get back to you. 181 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: Bring your wife. Maybe I'm married, maybe I'm not. Wait 182 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: what huh? It's just to me. It's like I need answers, 183 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: bro like fast. I'm building a business here, J Mack. 184 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: There's some Laker stuff percolating. I also want you to 185 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: work on that KD. Burner story. 186 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 5: Callery is firing at all cylinders today. It's almost like 187 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 5: he's excited about something. Is it the return of the 188 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 5: NBA tomorrow. 189 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: Maybe it's my vacation, Oh, vacation, that's what I thought. 190 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 5: It was Michigan Duke on Saturday. You got to set 191 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 5: an alarm in your phone for that one. 192 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: Michigan's a giant team, so if you don't have length, 193 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: you're in big trouble against the Wolverines. It's a great game. 194 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, you want the KD. Burner stuff, I'm on it, boss, Yes, sir, well. 195 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: There is. There's been stories about somebody found Kd's burner 196 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: and he takes a shot at teammates, and he's taking 197 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: it shots at guys he plays with. And I don't 198 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: know if it's true or not, but people are acting 199 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: surprised and My take is, guys, we always said this 200 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: about KD. Great player, not a great leader. You don't 201 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: build a round kit. You build around Steph, Magic Bird, Lebron, Kobe, 202 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: They're a player, Duncan, they're players you build around, and 203 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: then there's just players that are really talented leaders. Steph Curry. 204 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: You would never hear this story with Steph Curry on 205 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: the burner. You would never hear that story with Lebron 206 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: on the burner. You would never hear that story with 207 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: Tim Duncan in a burner account, Yokich, Luca sd k D. 208 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: If you told me this story, guess who it is, 209 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 1: I would say, well, who's not a leader, who's kind 210 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: of an independent, who's a guy that's just a baller 211 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: doing his own thing. I'd be like, Oh, that's probably KD. 212 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: So it plays into his brand, which is he's not married, 213 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: he's doing his own thing, he's a little thin skinned, 214 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: he battles on the internet. He's staring at his phone 215 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: all day. And that's remember we've talked about this before. 216 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: He's got rabbit ears because he's on the phone all day. 217 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: Married guys with a bunch of kids aren't on phones 218 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: all day at least guys I know, and so I 219 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: think single guys are If you go to a restaurant 220 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: and you watch two people on a date and they're 221 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: both singling, they're young, they're on their phones, that's generational. 222 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: So to me hauling out teammates people that are shocked 223 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: by it, I'm like, no, I'd be shocked if it 224 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: was Steph Curry or Duncan or or you know, the 225 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: guys in this league like Jalen Brunson, I'd be shocked. 226 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: No way, Steph Curry shocked, YO, get shocked. K D. 227 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: I'd be like, that's kind of what we've always said. 228 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: You don't build around him. He's not the cake. He's 229 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: just unbelievable icing And there you have it. If it's true. 230 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 231 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: in noon eastern nin am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 232 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 233 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio is taking over YouTube and you can 234 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 6: be a part of it. 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I'm watching 245 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: a documentary right now. It is fantastic. I'm three parts 246 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: of four parts through it. It's called Soul Power. It's 247 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: the story of the ABA. And the ABA was initially 248 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: legitimized because they stole a star from the NBA, Rick Berry, 249 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: the MVP. But it was ultimately legitimized not by Rick 250 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: Berry alone but by Doctor J, a star with star power. Yes, 251 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: he was a great player, Doctor J. The Dunks. And 252 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: then the NBA had a down period and David Stern 253 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: came in and what saved the NBA? Star power, Magic Johnson, 254 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: Larry Byrd and and and then this the league went global. 255 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: Who gets credit for that? Dave Stern agents no Michael 256 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: Jordan superstar. So in review, what legitimized the ABA? Why 257 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: did the NBA look at the ABA and go we 258 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: should merge Doctor J. And then there was saved by 259 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: Magic and Bird went global by MJ. What is the 260 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: biggest hole the NBA right now has. It's not money, 261 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: They're making a lot of money. It's not ratings. Now 262 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: All Star Game got great ratings. A lot of the 263 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: international guys lacked star power. SGA lacks star power. He's 264 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: just a great player, saying with Jokich, Wenby's got a 265 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: little bit of it, Luca's got a little bit of it. 266 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: Not close to Stephan Lebron. It's a star driven league. 267 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: And so when I watch what's happening, I'm reading a 268 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: story this morning on Magic. Johnson was on All the 269 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: Smoke a podcast and he was talking about how we 270 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: got Lebron, a very smart businessman, very shrewd businessman. Magic 271 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: and Lebron, how we got him too La. It wasn't 272 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: because the Lakers had the best front office, the best owners, 273 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: or the best roster. In fact, they were at the 274 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: bottom of the group of teams. But Magic new Lebron's 275 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: a star. Stars love La. You can hide in la. O. 276 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: Tani was offered a lot of places. He stayed in 277 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: La to a better baseball team. You can hide here, right, 278 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: And so what's interesting about this article. It really makes 279 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: me think of David Stern and Adam Silver. Adam Silver 280 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: is getting criticized during All Star weekend. The league's got 281 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: issues and they do so did baseball years ago, and 282 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: the commissioner tweaked them, change them, altered them, and it's 283 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: been a renaissance for baseball. But one of the things 284 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: basketball has to lean into is star cities. The reason 285 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: Rucker Park is cool is that it's not in Sacramento. 286 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: It's not in Cleveland, it's not in Omaha, it's not 287 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: in Memphis. It's in New York City. And New York 288 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: City's cooler than Memphis. And it matters more. Got two 289 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: trillion dollar GT beat GDPs in this country, LA and 290 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: New York trillion plus. Lean into it. Lean into stars. 291 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,239 Speaker 1: It saved your league. It legitimized the ABA. When your 292 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: league was broken, you leaned on them. Your most popular 293 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: teams have been star studed, your best players have been stars. 294 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: They made your sport global. They sell the most merchandise. 295 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: Stop trying to neutralize market size and market share. It 296 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: does matter. There's a reason on the East Coast in 297 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: a winter league, the one place that historically keeps landing 298 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: stars is Miami Star Friendly, no state tax, aqua water, 299 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: celebrities everywhere. That's the one. Eat Boston, New York, Philly. 300 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: Now a lot of them want to go to Miami 301 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: Winter League, warm weather, no state tax, aqua water. Lean 302 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: into it. This. Magic Johnson's a prime example. Magic figured 303 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: it out. He's like, this is a celebrity town. It's 304 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: a celebrity league. You're a star. It's spread out. People 305 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: aren't on top of you. Choose the Lakers because they 306 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: were good, and I just I think it's unnatural to 307 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: try and convince us we have to care about OKC 308 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: as much as the Knicks and the Lakers. It's always 309 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: been a city league. It's never been a rural league. 310 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: It's never been a media market league. Hell Portland, Oregon, 311 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: where I used to live, they've never even hosted an 312 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: NBA All Star Game. They don't have enough hotel rooms. Apparently, 313 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm not making it up. They've never been a proud 314 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: NBA franchise forever and will remain for the next one 315 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: hundred years. Probably. They've never hosted an All Star Game. 316 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: Why the league's like, you're not big enough. So the 317 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: league acknowledges and David Stern was very comfortable leaning into 318 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: the big city. So I don't know. I magic Johnson 319 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: figured it out. He recruited Lebron. There were seven teams 320 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: after him. He's like, you can hide here. You can. 321 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: In the story he's saying, you can be a billionaire here. 322 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: You're not going to be a billionaire in Acron unless 323 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: you're like in you know you've got factories, right, That's 324 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: not gonna work. Here. Was Nick Wright yesterday on Lebron's 325 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: future with the Lakers. 326 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 7: I do not believe Lebron James is retiring, and I 327 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 7: do not believe Lebron James will be a Laker next year. 328 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 7: I think wherever the final chapter is going to be 329 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 7: will be somewhere else. Is a basketball crime that you 330 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 7: had Lebron James on your roster, who Luca modeled his 331 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 7: game after, and the types of players that you need 332 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 7: to have around an older Lebron James to succeed are 333 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 7: the exact types of players you need to have around 334 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 7: Luke at Ancic. And they trade for Luke at Ancic 335 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 7: and we're more than a year removed, and they're like, man, 336 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 7: we sure don't have the right types of guys around him. 337 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: A lot of people think Lebron doesn't end his career 338 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: in LA. But there was a story yesterday and it 339 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: was written about and confirmed again today. The Lakers are 340 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: bringing him back if he wants to come back, and 341 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: of course he wants to come back. That's why Stafford's here, 342 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: and Otani's here and Freddie Freeman is here. Of course 343 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: he wants to come back. It's a city league. He's 344 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: a celebrity, he's a star. The league can try to 345 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: convince us that we have to care about Indiana, Okse 346 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: and San Antonio as much. The players don't. They may 347 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: get drafted and developed there. The players don't. They've always 348 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: had certain cities they want to play in. J Mack 349 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: with the news. No, No, No, turned on the news. 350 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: This is the herd Line News. 351 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 5: It's been a rough six months for the Kansas City Chiefs, Colin, 352 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 5: but they've got some good news this morning, and that 353 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes has restructured his contract and a pretty impressive 354 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 5: move from the Chiefs. Kansas City converted forty four million 355 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 5: of his base salary and a roster bonus into creating 356 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 5: forty three point five million dollars in caps. So that's 357 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 5: the good news. Okay, Mahomes restructure created forty three million 358 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 5: in cast base nine. Here's the here's the bad news, Collin, 359 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 5: the Chiefs still are eleven million dollars over the salary 360 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 5: cap even after this move. That's how dire things were 361 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 5: in Cansas. 362 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: They have three of the first I forget the number 363 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: three of the first, like seventy picks. They have to 364 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: nail an edge rusher, they've got to find a running back. 365 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: They've got to shore up the old line. 366 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 5: So then again, you expecting three rookies to come in 367 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 5: and do all that is. 368 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,239 Speaker 1: They don't need to carry the team. I didn't say that, 369 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: but they've got an upgrade at edge. I mean edge 370 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: and running back can play immediately. Offensive tackle is probably 371 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: a year or two develop into a really good player. 372 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: But running backs, I mean Bjeon Robinson, Saquon Barkley, Ezekiel 373 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: Elliott running back in Waukee in high school to college, 374 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: college to pro and play immediately. Here's the ball. Find 375 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: a crease, run hard. There are a certain visit cornerback, 376 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: running back, and I also think edge rusher, you've got 377 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: it or you don't. If you come out of Adison 378 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: came right out of college. He was immediately a factor. 379 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 5: So do you think they'll be able to be factors 380 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 5: in free agency because you know, really, oh well, that's 381 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 5: not great banking on rookies to come in and help 382 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 5: out instantly. 383 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: Banking on three rookies to be drafted and start and 384 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: a couple of them running backed and edge rusher to 385 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: make plays. I don't think it's a huge ask. 386 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, Jeremiah Love, I mean, I'm surprised you're on 387 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 5: board for that given the other needs. 388 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 3: And we know running. 389 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 5: Backs kind of a luxury, but he is a superstar. 390 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 5: He feels like a Bijon Robinson do now. 391 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: I don't feel running backs to luxury. I don't. I 392 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: think Kenneth Walker proved you can be driven largely, not exclusively. 393 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: But if you have a mean, when McCaffrey plays, the 394 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: Niners win seventy five erc under their games. When McCaffrey doesn't, 395 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: they don't. That's Kyle Shanahan. That's an excellent coach. So 396 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: I mean, I think if you start looking at the 397 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: best coaches in this league, most lean in. I mean, 398 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: what's one of the first things Jim Harbad did get 399 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: Najie Harris draft Amarion Hampton he knew where I'd start. 400 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: They may not have enough receivers and tight ends. They 401 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: want to make sure they have excellent running backs. JK. Dobbins. 402 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: They brought him on last year. 403 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 5: It seems like there's a couple guys on the defensive line, 404 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 5: including Chris Jones, who could be the next restructure. 405 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 3: We know Jones starting. 406 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 5: To fall off a little bit. Is that safe to say, well, 407 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 5: a big game every now. 408 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: Sean Payton brought in JK. Dobbins harbad did the year before. 409 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: The point being is I don't think. I think for 410 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: Kansas City, running back is not a luxury item. I 411 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: do not believe it is. 412 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 5: All right, Let's move on to the Baltimore Ravens. They 413 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 5: have finally named an offensive coordinator and that is a 414 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 5: gentleman by the name of Declan Doyle Colin. He comes 415 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 5: from the Bears, where he was the OC last year 416 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 5: at the age of twenty eight. Now he wasn't calling 417 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 5: plays in Chicago, but at twenty nine years old in Baltimore, 418 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 5: he becomes the youngest play caller in the league. 419 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: Colin, this is kind. 420 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 5: Of stunning, But Lamar Jackson's calling the shots there apparel, 421 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 5: so maybe he likes this. Here's what Doyle had to 422 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 5: say about his new quarterback and Lamar. 423 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 8: That trust is going to be earned through time. You know, 424 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 8: It's not like I can call up Lamar and say, hey, 425 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 8: I need you to trust me. We'll earn that over time, 426 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 8: and it's really going to be a two way street. 427 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 8: He's got to earn my trust. I have to earn 428 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 8: his trust. When you watch the tape, there's not really 429 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 8: any throws that he can't make. He's very arm talented. 430 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 8: I think there's a number of things that you watch 431 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 8: that I think that he can get even better. I 432 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 8: think there's even a higher ceiling to his game, you know, 433 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 8: where you're looking at a guy who's been the MVP 434 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 8: twice and yet I still think that just like all 435 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 8: of our guys. But I think he still has room 436 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 8: to grow as well. 437 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: Well, we'll see last year didn't feel quite as explosive, 438 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: wasn't as fast statistically as Caleb Williams, So we'll see 439 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: he didn't feel the same last year, but some of 440 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: that could have been injuries. 441 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 5: This is interesting, Colins, So Dick glan Doyle's twenty nine 442 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 5: years old, so is Lamar and Jackson. You know, we 443 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 5: talked about Matt Stafford in the Super Bowl. He's seen 444 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 5: every defense, he can handle everything. And then you know 445 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 5: that was a couple of years ago. Now we see 446 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 5: young Drake May in the Super Bowl. He was shook, 447 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 5: he was rattled an offensive coordinator who's twenty nine. 448 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 3: That feels like. 449 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 5: A Madden ish higher, doesn't it at twenty nine years old? 450 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: Colin, come on us, I think I think God, I 451 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: don't know. I people experience matters. I think young I 452 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: think brain power matters. If he's the smartest guy you interviewed, 453 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: McVeigh was a kid. He was six games into his 454 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: NFL coaching career. McVay was a top eight coach. A 455 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: year into it, he was probably a top three four coach. 456 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: Like I, age doesn't. There's a ton of really smart 457 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: people out there. Our kids are smarter than we were. 458 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: They have access to more information. So I twenty. I mean, 459 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: I don't really care about coaches. I worry about when 460 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: they get too old and they're not current, like they're 461 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: not they're just not up to speed. That worries me. 462 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: I don't worry about Yeah, I mean, if there's there'll 463 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 1: be a twenty six year old NFL head coach at 464 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: some point in my lifetime, and it's going to be 465 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: he I mean, Sean mcvay's first press conference. 466 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 5: You're like, Wow, he could have been an outlier though, 467 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 5: I mean. 468 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: Well, he probably was. But this kid's probably an outlier too. 469 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,479 Speaker 1: Mike McDonald was a kid when he got hired by 470 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: the Seahawks, seems and what do we say, Oh, he's 471 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: basically McVay on the defensive side. Timiko Ryans was right 472 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: out of the league. He's been excellent. 473 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 5: So we got rookie, first time head coach in a 474 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 5: mentor and a first time play call youngest play. 475 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: Caller in Deckland Doyle. Well, it's blond a team. You've 476 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: got some bandwidth on this roster. There's some older veteran 477 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: players that are really good. I don't worry about leadership 478 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: with the Ravens. I don't I worry about the cap 479 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: hit Lamar Jackson's new contract is because that's going to 480 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: completely limit what you can do. 481 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 5: It's February, But who's winning that division? 482 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, I don't feel strongly about anybody. 483 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: YF Malie Willis went to the Steeters. I think that 484 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: would be really interesting. 485 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 5: Okay, don't have that one final story, Calm college basketball, 486 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 5: your guy. Mick Cronan last night tough one for the 487 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 5: Bruins crush and one of his players made a poor 488 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 5: decision here, kind. 489 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: Of a hard found, not cheap. 490 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 5: He made an effort, got piece of the ball, but 491 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 5: down twenty five. It was a bit of a dangerous play, 492 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 5: and Mick Cronin, in a shocking move, ejected his own player. 493 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 3: I don't know that I've ever seen that. 494 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: I don't like him at all. I think you're embarrassing 495 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: a young man in front of fifteen thousand people or 496 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: whatever the arena holds. I don't like that. I think 497 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: it's over emotional. I think coaches jobs are to lose 498 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: d I think a really good coach, you know, Bobby 499 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: Knight used to preach discipline and yet had none. You know, 500 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: Bobby Knight was like, be disciplined, but you didn't have 501 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: any discipline with officials and how you were yelling and 502 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: screaming and throwing stuff like so to me, I think 503 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: this is showing up a player. I don't like it 504 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: at all. I think, I mean, you try that stuff 505 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: pro basketball to you get tossed into the stands. I 506 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: don't like to. 507 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 3: Quickly cullin if we're being real. 508 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 5: I know it in full speed, it looks scary when 509 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 5: you slow it down. It's a good hustle play, and 510 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 5: he got bold. The guy was in the air, which 511 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 5: makes him look initially like. 512 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: Holy hell, and Cronan flipped out. 513 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 5: Anyway, here's Cronin and Tom Izzo after the game talking 514 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 5: about the incident. 515 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 9: True toughness is on how you compete and how you 516 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 9: go to work every day. Steve's a good kid. He 517 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 9: made a bad decision. If you want to be a 518 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 9: tough guy, you need to do it during the game 519 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 9: for a blockout for a rebound. So I was thoroughly disappointed. 520 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 9: Guy was defenseless in the air. I know Steven shaying 521 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 9: to block the shot, but you know the game's a 522 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 9: twenty five point game. 523 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: You don't do that. I guess see upgraded that to 524 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: a segment too. Huh. That's first time I saw a 525 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: coach do it. But that sounds like mix. So you'll 526 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: get that straightened out now. 527 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 5: Listen, Cronin, who you and I both like after the game, 528 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 5: got a little I'm mad with the reporter who asked 529 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 5: him about the zone fans section, and he snapped at 530 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 5: the guy. I like Cronin, okay. I like his feiziness. 531 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 5: He's tough, he's not going to take any crap. It's 532 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 5: just a tough one. They're not great this year UCLA. 533 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: I just didn't like. I don't like the look of that. 534 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: I can like a coach. Two things can be true. 535 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,239 Speaker 1: I can I can like Iszoh, and he can make 536 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: a play call or a play design. I didn't like. 537 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: I just don't like. Well, first of all, you're a 538 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: very young player. When what's that kid nineteen years old? 539 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: You're competing your butt off you you don't want to 540 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: give up a freebie. It looks like he gets this 541 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: is a real it's not a cheap shot. He's going 542 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: for the block and the kid crashes. I don't like it. 543 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: I don't And I have no problem with coaches yelling. 544 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: I think volume occasionally is very effective. I don't like this. 545 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I listen in the moment. I can see him 546 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 5: getting heated. If he saw the replay, I don't think 547 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 5: he would have told his guy to get to the 548 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 5: locker room. 549 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: And I like it. Jmack with the news, Well that's 550 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd Line News. 551 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: And u c l A is not going to like that. 552 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 1: Like U c l A, I mean, you know, U 553 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: c l A has got a lot of people. They 554 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: answered to USC is private. They can pay their coaches 555 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: what they want to pay their coaches. Everything has to 556 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: be above board at u c l A. It's the 557 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: grand public institution. They're they're they're fan you know it's 558 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: it's it's listed right next door to bel Air very 559 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,959 Speaker 1: boogie there. This is not going to play well. This 560 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: is this is going to get massive pushback because u 561 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: c l A has got this sort of elegant, precious 562 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: feel to it, and they're kind of a lost athletic department. 563 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: They're lost in football. They can't really afford the nil 564 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: portal system, and the basketball is what they have. They 565 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: have a beautiful arena and mix kind of rough around 566 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: the edges and it makes a lot of people uncomfortable. 567 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: And I watch that and I'm like, oh, that will 568 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: not play well at u c l A. Will not 569 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: play what John did his coaching at practice. I mean 570 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: there's still it's the ghost of John Wooden, Like it's 571 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: this elegance, this expertise, the pyramid of success. That's not 572 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: gonna play well. I mean that, just watch the next 573 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: twenty four hours will not play well. It's the hurt. 574 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays 575 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 3: and Noon Easter not a em Pacific. 576 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 5: Sunday on Fox, the NASCAR Cup Series heads to Atlanta. 577 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 5: Kyle Larson and the best of the best take on 578 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 5: Echo Park Speedway for some high speed chaos. Pre race 579 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 5: coverage begins at to eastern with the green flag at three, 580 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 5: only on Fox. 581 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 1: So I hear all these gloom and doom stories about AI, 582 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: and I've always said this, the media exaggerates everything, not 583 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: the sports media, necessarily the political media. I don't know 584 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: what tariffs are going to do eventually to the economy, 585 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: but it sounded like within three weeks we were all 586 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: going to be on food stamps. And it looks like 587 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: we're all doing okay. You know. It's just it's one 588 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: of those things where the media, we're all going to die. 589 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: With COVID three hundred and forty five million people one 590 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: point three million passed. That's too many people, majority over 591 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: seventy five years old. Life expectancy in America is seventy 592 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: eight and a half years old. This was not children, 593 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: This was not teens. So I always you know everything 594 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: with the media, I always a I've seen it all before. 595 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: When you get older and have gray hair, you've seen 596 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: every crisis. It wasn't our first pandemic, believe it or not, 597 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: Like we've had stuff like this before. And so when 598 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: I hear the stories about AI, I'm like, this is 599 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: going to be jet fuel to the economy. Microsoft just 600 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: at a study where they found that AI found disease 601 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 1: four times faster than our best doctors. So they're not 602 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: AIS not replacing doctors. It's going to be used by 603 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: doctors to save lives. And I believe AI is. You know, 604 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: coders are probably in trouble. The software industry could be 605 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: in trouble, but I think AI is going to be 606 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: a massive economy. And we've got hundreds of shoulder economies 607 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: in this country. I just don't buy all the it's 608 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: all going to die, We're all in big trouble. I don't. 609 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: I take a deep breath. And the college football yesterday 610 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: I had Urban Meyer on and Mike Elko, the coach 611 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: of Texas A and M came out and he's like, 612 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: we need a CEO for the sport. I totally agree 613 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: with that, absolutely agree with it. That's why boxing died 614 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: and UFC got popular. They had a centralized voice. It's 615 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: why the NFL has pulled away from everybody. Strong leadership, 616 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: willing to adapt and innovate and change. College football needs 617 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: a CEO. I'd nominate Nick Saban, but urban Meyer talked 618 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: about Mike Elko's comments and the state of the sport. 619 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 10: The last thing that college football needs is more rules. 620 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 10: The rules are in place now, they're not enforced. That's chaos. 621 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 10: College football is chaos right now. I think we're in 622 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 10: the golden era of parody and college football. I mean, 623 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 10: you had to number ten. Miami really should have won 624 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 10: the game. I was there, and they should have. They 625 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 10: could have, and that I stood there and watched them, 626 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 10: wore them up. They were a national championship looking team. 627 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 1: So I have heard nothing but concern for the sport 628 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: and I don't see it. And here's my reason. If 629 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: you truly love something, you'll accept its flaws. It could 630 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: be your pets, your kids, your wife, if you're a 631 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: woman listening, your husband, your boyfriend. If you love something, 632 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: you'll accept flaws your neighborhood. You'll accept it. We love 633 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: college football. Half of you went to the school. You've 634 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 1: got plaques on the walls, tailgating. You think people are 635 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: just going to give up in the Big Ten in 636 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: SEC country, Notre Dame fans. We love this sport. One 637 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: of the reasons many people don't watch the Olympics, even 638 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: though there's paid triotism and great athleticism. You don't love 639 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: the sports. You don't love downhill skiing, you don't love curly. 640 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: With college football, it's totally flawed. You don't have to 641 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: love the NFL, the transfer portal, twelve teams in the playoff, 642 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: which will become sixteen or maybe twenty four, but you 643 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 1: love the sport and all. It's the same with AI. 644 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: It's going to end the world. I'm like, it's a 645 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 1: super economy. It's going to be used by every industry. 646 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: It's going to replace some people. But in the end, 647 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: I like my doctor, I like my accountant, I like 648 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: my agent. Hopefully you like me or you'll get some 649 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: AI version of it. So I got Indiana winning a 650 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 1: national championship. I've got more parody than I've ever seen. 651 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: I've got the Big Ten, the strongest has ever been. 652 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: No longer a two team conference. The SEC is no 653 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: longer has a stranglehold on the sport, and they're no 654 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: longer a two team conference. I've got an NFL like 655 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: playoff system I've never had before. I'm the older players. 656 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: Players are staying in college football longer because they're getting paid. Translation, 657 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: the teams are better. Miami and Indiana, you and guys 658 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: that could have been in NFL year ago. So like 659 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: the sports, better ratings up, revenue up, Indiana can win 660 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: a Natty. The Big ten's got six teams that could 661 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,479 Speaker 1: win the championship, maybe five. SEC's got four or five, 662 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: and one of them may not be Alabama. So it's 663 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: like I see hope, I see passion, I see revenue, 664 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: revenue and ratings. I don't see chaos. I mean a 665 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: lot of us like chaos. You don't go to Marty 666 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: Gras to get a good night's sleep, especially if you're 667 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 1: Shia La buff. You don't go there for a good 668 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: night's sleep. You don't go to the ball Drop in 669 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: New York City because you want to go to bed 670 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: at eight thirty. People like tailed and wild and loud 671 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: and crazy, and we sit in snowstorms to watch football games. 672 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: So we're not board sitting at home. So I think 673 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: the sport's fine. Now here's something that's not fine. Listen 674 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: to this story. This is brutal. This is brutal. So 675 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:27,479 Speaker 1: longtime NFL defensive assistant Wink Martindale interviewed twice last month 676 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: for the Jets defensive coordinator position. A new report says 677 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: he heard two different things from the head coach, Aaron Glenn, 678 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: because they believe what happened is Aaron Glenn had his 679 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: vision of defense, and then Woody Johnson has his vision 680 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: of what to do with the defense. And so now 681 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: Woody Johnson is meddling with a defensive coach on the 682 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. And a popular assistant said, 683 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: I heard two different pitches for the defense. So and 684 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this this morning. I do not 685 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 1: remember an NFL team going into the season with less 686 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: hope coach, F quarterback situation D minus F ownership. Brutal. 687 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: I mean, if you since twenty fifteen, the Jets have 688 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: had thirty four games with zero offensive touchdowns. Next closest 689 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 1: is the Giants with twenty one, and they've been futrid. 690 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: And you can. I mean, on the misery meter of 691 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: the NFL, you could make fun of Cleveland. But if 692 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm a Cleveland fan, I'm like, I've got maybe the 693 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: best player in the league. Miles Garrett and Shador Sanders. 694 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: Say what you want. Seven starts went three and four 695 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: and one is last two. There's a little bit of hope. Tennessee. 696 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: You can say, oh, the Titans, I got cam Ward, 697 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: a ton of cap space, got Sala and Brian Dabele. 698 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: I like, I like that coaching staff in a winnable division. 699 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: You look at the Raiders. I'm getting Mendoza. I got 700 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: Clint Kobiak. I got a tight end to running back 701 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: and one receiver. I like Colton Miller, the left tackles 702 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: coming back. You can talk yourself into a lot of positives, 703 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: even Arizona. I got one of these young coaches from 704 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: the Sean McVay tree. I've got tremendous tight end, running 705 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 1: back and wide receiver talent. I mean, they were scoring 706 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: a lot of points last year. But Jakobe Brissett, you 707 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: can talk yourself into Vegas and Cleveland. I mean, I've said, 708 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: just play a Shador Sanders. Why not? One of his 709 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: last two starts, roll it out. Got a couple of 710 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: first round picks, So see if he can play. I 711 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: don't think he's going to be great. Let's see if 712 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: he can play. Jets. There is I mean, the only 713 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: thing I like about the Jets is they got a 714 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: couple of firsts. And if I was the Jets, I 715 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: would trade down if possible, and I would just keep 716 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: drafting young players. They don't have to start. Just get 717 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: them in the building, cheap labor, get as many draft 718 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: picks as I can, get your quarterback next year, and 719 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: get a new coach bought them out. That's the best 720 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: thing I can say. But I mean, there's only three 721 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 1: teams that didn't have a pro bowler. It was the Jets, 722 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: and that story if Wink Martindale, and there's no reason 723 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: for Wink Martindale to make stuff up, basically saying he 724 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: went to Aaron Glenn and heard two different accounts of 725 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: what they want the defense to be. That is I mean, 726 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: that's that is a notch below on the misery meter. Cleveland, Vegas, 727 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: Arizona Titans. That's like a notch below their hopelessness. J Mack, 728 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,439 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but that's how I see it. 729 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 5: It's fine. That's what you're going to do on your 730 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 5: way out the door, taking jabs at my jets who 731 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,919 Speaker 5: are down, kicking them while they're down. Colin, Yeah, yeah. 732 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: Matt Hasselback today is showing up. 733 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 5: You think he's uh, you know he's fine. After the parade, 734 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 5: in the week long celebration in Seattle. 735 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,720 Speaker 1: That you know, that's they're getting after it. That story 736 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,240 Speaker 1: about Kenneth Walker. There's a lot of momentum building that Seattle. 737 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: This is tough choices, super Bowl MVP, and a lot 738 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: of people believe and they're probably not wrong. Seattle is 739 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: not going to franchise him because that running back does 740 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: not want to be franchised. There's no reason to get 741 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: a moody guy in the room. They're going to move 742 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: off him. We'll cook. You keep your post at a 743 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: corporate