1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: The quest for immortality is kind of the holy grail 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: for human life. Would you want it? What would you 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: do to get it? If you did? Well? Centuries ago, 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: blood from children and teens seem to be the magic potion, 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: and guess what, for some folks it still is. And 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: then there was the nineteen twenties craze for transplanted monkey testicles. 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm Patty Steele, searching for forever. Next on the backstory. 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: We're back with the backstory. I mean, really, would you 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: actually want to live forever? Think about it? The people 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: and events that drive you nuts as things change in 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: our world would continue to drive you nuts forever. Would 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: you continue to have kids or would someone in charge 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: control your reproduction after a few centuries, since the world 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: would get really crowded really fast? Would you continue to work? 15 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: No retirement ever? And then there's the question of what 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: you'd have to do to achieve immortality. This has always 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: been the kind of ultimate existential question for us humans, 18 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: How can we live forever? And the follow up, what 19 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: the heck would we do with all that time on 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: our hands if we did live forever. The earliest writings 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: about immortality involve a mythical story based on a real 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: king in Mesopotamia over four thousand years ago, King Gilgamesh, 23 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: when his best friend died suddenly, he realized he was 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: vulnerable too, and he launched a pretty intense search for 25 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: a way to overcome death. He didn't find it, but 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,279 Speaker 1: he says the search finally taught him the meaning of life. 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: He said, humans are born, they live, and then they die. 28 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: Until the end, enjoy your life, Spend it in happiness, 29 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: not to spare love the child who holds your hand, 30 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: and give your wife pleasure in your embrace. Kind of 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: a nice wrap up for his search. Right. One of 32 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: the hottest quests in medieval times and right into the 33 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: early twentieth century was for the Holy Grail, said to 34 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: have been the cup that Jesus drank from at the 35 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: Last Supper. The story goes that sipping from it would 36 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: grant you eternal life. Even the Nazis searched for the 37 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: Holy Grail in the nineteen thirties and forties, it still 38 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: hasn't turned up now. Back in fourteen ninety two, Pope 39 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: Innocent the Eighth decided the best way to live forever 40 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: was to get himself injected with the blood of a 41 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: bunch of healthy little kids. That was really a no go. 42 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: He died, as did the children. And what about bathing 43 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: in the blood of virgins. At the turn of the 44 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: seventeenth century, one Hungarian countess regularly took dips in young blood, 45 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: believing it kept her skin from wrinkling. Then there was 46 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: the search for the Fountain of Youth. Spanish explorer ponste 47 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: Leone was intent on finding it, and that brought him 48 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 1: to what is now Saint Augustine, Florida in fifteen thirteen. 49 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: While there is a Fountain of Youth archaeological park there 50 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: with a fountain from which you can sip some really 51 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: awful tasting water, and I say that firsthand, it doesn't 52 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: appear to have any reverse aging effects, at least it 53 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: didn't for me. Fast forward now, right to the early 54 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: twentieth century. This is wild. Doctor Sergei Voranov, known as 55 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: the monkey gland expert, believed that shoving monkey testicles into 56 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: people was the ticket to reverse aging. He said the 57 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: sex gland stimulate cerebral activity, muscular energy, and amorous passion. 58 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: It restores the cells and spreads happiness. So he transplanted 59 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: small pieces of monkey testicle into aging humans and said 60 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: it restored vigor to men and turned grandmothers into debutantes. 61 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: By nineteen twenty five, at least three hundred people had 62 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: it done, and the numbers grew. It was so successful 63 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: he managed to buy himself a castle on the French Riviera, 64 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: where he raised monkeys for use in his rejuvenation clinic. 65 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: Can you imagine wanting to extend your life so much 66 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: you would allow someone to try this on you. Hundreds 67 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: of people were on his waiting list, and doctors all 68 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: over Europe cheered him on. Some of the celebrities who 69 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: spent time at the castle included the Prime Minister of France, 70 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: the King of Romania, the President of Turkey, as well 71 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: as the iconic Parisian singer Josephine Baker and famous American 72 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: actress Sarah Bernhardt. Voronoff was so popular there was a 73 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: Sherlock Holmes book that borrowed his story called The Creeping Man, 74 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: and it inspired the nineteen twenty six film classic The Magician. 75 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. This all sounds a little bit wacky, right, 76 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: but the search for a fountain of youth has only 77 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: increased immortality or anti aging. They say, is the next 78 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: big thing insiders estimate the industry's worth will hit a 79 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: staggering six hundred and ten billion dollars by the end 80 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: of this year. At least thirteen billionaires have invested in 81 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: life extension companies, including Jeff Bezos, Mark zucker Berg, Larry Ellison, 82 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: and Twitter founder Jack Dorsey, who didn't just put his 83 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: fortune into it, he put himself into it too. Jack 84 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: has adopted an intense health routine in his quest to 85 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: live forever that includes very little food, long fasts, meditation, 86 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: and daily ice baths. Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, worth just 87 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: shy of two hundred billion dollars, has invested in Altoslab, 88 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: a startup working on cellular rejuvenation programming. The idea is 89 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: that the main reason that we eventually die is because 90 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: every time our cells replicate, which is about every seven years, 91 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: they lose a little bit of their power and thus 92 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: the aging process now. PayPal co founder Peter Tiel meanwhile 93 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: put millions into the Methusla Foundation, a nonprofit that wants 94 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: to make ninety the new fifty by twenty thirty. Oracle 95 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: co founder Larry Ellison, worth one hundred and thirty billion bucks, 96 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: has donated Untold millions to anti AIDS research since nineteen 97 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: ninety seven. He says death has never made any sense 98 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: to me. How can a person be there and then 99 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: just vanish, just not be there. Then there's the retired 100 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: billionaire CEO of doll Fruits and Vegetables, David Murdoch. His 101 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: quest for a long life has him living on seafood, 102 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: egg whites, beans, nuts, and smoothies made with twenty different 103 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: fruits and veggies. He works out every day and says 104 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: he believes he can live until at least one hundred 105 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: and twenty five. He's about to turn one hundred and 106 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: one and going strong, married to his sixth wife. Finally, 107 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: maybe the weirdest rich guy in the search for eternal 108 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: life is Brian Johnson, a forty six year old who 109 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: made his money in biotech. He started a program called 110 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: Project Blueprint. He eats very little, fasts a lot that 111 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: seems to be a thing for these guys, exercises a lot, 112 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: takes a ton of supplements, and for a six month period, 113 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: spent hundreds of thousands of dollars each month on having 114 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: a leap of his teenage son's blood plasma separated and 115 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: infused into his own blood stream. I wonder if the 116 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: kid appreciated that now at the end of the day. 117 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: Maybe The company I'm most fascinated with is a biotech 118 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: startup that just got FDA backing. It's called Loyal and 119 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: its aim is to develop drugs that will allow dogs 120 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: to live longer. If their clinical trials are effective, They're 121 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: going to apply the same science to humans. Think about it, 122 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: what's the point of living forever if your best friend 123 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: isn't right by your side. If you have a story 124 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: you'd like me to take a deep dive into and share, 125 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: please direct message me on Instagram at Real Patty Steele 126 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: or on Facebook at Patty Steele. I'm Patty steel The 127 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: Backstory is a production of iHeartMedia, Premier Networks, the Elvis 128 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: Durand Group, and Steel Trap Productions. Our producer is Doug Fraser. 129 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: Our writer Jake Kushner. 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