WEBVTT - Patriots Catch-22 7/20: Training Camp Primer, What to Watch and FAQ

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan

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<v Speaker 1>Lazar and Alex Barth.

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<v Speaker 2>And Lazarre. Hello, everybody nailed it? Joined us always by

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<v Speaker 2>our bark. Here is Evan Lazar and Alex bars eighty

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<v Speaker 2>eight to forty one? Was that one on a napkin?

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<v Speaker 1>I was about but then he threw back to me

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<v Speaker 1>too quickly the other one And and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>shout out.

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<v Speaker 2>To whoever put in the chatay rowling, shout out to

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<v Speaker 2>what Hello everybody, and welcome into a new edition of

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots Cast twenty two podcasts here on Patriots dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>Evan Lazar joined us always by Alex Barth. Even though

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<v Speaker 2>we're not we're not live live okay, So don't don't

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<v Speaker 2>call in, don't email in, don't don't blow up the

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<v Speaker 2>phones for morell because there's nobody to speak to on

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<v Speaker 2>the air. So just putting that out there again. This

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<v Speaker 2>is like one of those things where we need to

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<v Speaker 2>like have a written disclaimer at the top too, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like this isn't live okay, uh so don't don't get lost.

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<v Speaker 2>But the idea behind this show and Alex and I

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<v Speaker 2>were trying to think of a way to do something

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<v Speaker 2>that's that is what we call in the biz evergreen, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to worry about breaking news or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that, making it uh not relevant anymore. So we

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<v Speaker 2>thought what a great idea would be is to break

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<v Speaker 2>down how Alex and I watch training camp practices, what

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<v Speaker 2>our routines are, what are what things we're looking for

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<v Speaker 2>out on the football field during practice, so that when

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<v Speaker 2>you guys hopefully come get an opportunity to come down

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<v Speaker 2>to Patriots training camp here at Gillette, you can watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to call us pros, but media pros, not

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<v Speaker 2>saying football how the nerds. That's a better way of

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<v Speaker 2>putting it. How the nerds watch it. That that's the

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<v Speaker 2>goal here. We're also gonna have some fun with it.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll give you a couple of little tricks of the

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<v Speaker 2>trade to make sure that you have a good day.

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<v Speaker 2>One one is particularly important that I'll get to you

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<v Speaker 2>in a second. And also some of our favorite lunch spots,

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<v Speaker 2>because usually practices around ten and it gets out around

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<v Speaker 2>noon twelve thirty. If you stay for autographs after practice,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's perfect opportunity to go to Patriot Place or

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<v Speaker 2>some of the nearby spots to grab lunch afterwards. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're coming with your family for come with your kids,

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<v Speaker 2>it's great. But let's start with the football side of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have a couple of things, a couple things

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about. Then we'll get into like

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<v Speaker 2>the nitty gritty of how we watch practice. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think one of the biggest things that I can can't

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<v Speaker 2>stress enough, and I think sometimes we I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>couple lumpus all in so I'm not calling out anybody individually.

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<v Speaker 2>We kind of give off the impression that we see

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<v Speaker 2>everything at a training camp practice. And I'm here to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that anybody that says that they saw everything

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<v Speaker 2>that happened at a training camp practice is lying. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's impossible to see everything. It's two fields. They're on

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<v Speaker 2>a two field. It's ninety guys, it's two hundred yards

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<v Speaker 2>of football field, right Like, there's no way you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to see everything. Don't come to camp, and don't be demoralized.

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<v Speaker 2>If you do come to camp and you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you miss stuff, it's it's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're watching on one field and hear a big

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<v Speaker 1>cheer all of a sudden because something happened on the

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<v Speaker 1>other field that happens. It happens to all of.

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<v Speaker 2>Us, and that's that's a big thing because we get

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<v Speaker 2>lucky and that we cover the team and so we

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<v Speaker 2>get to come every single day. So if I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really watch the defensive line much on Monday, I can

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<v Speaker 2>come back and Tuesday can be the defensive line day.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's sort of how I go approaching it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the other thing is like a lot of us,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're not the only one from our outland, right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>like I work with Matt dolofense, so we'll be like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I'm gonna watch the you know, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>the ones on offense and the ones on defense or

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<v Speaker 1>a different field, I'm gonna watch the offense, you watch

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<v Speaker 1>the defense, or I'm gonna watch this I'm gonna watch

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<v Speaker 1>this player, you watch this player.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So what we do with Deuce and I, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>usually more the offense guy, and he's usually more because

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<v Speaker 2>he's more interested in the defense. I'm more interested in offense,

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<v Speaker 2>so he'll watch defense a lot of the time. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>watch offense, or like during O line and D line

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<v Speaker 2>one on one, sometimes the be doing cornerback and receiver

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<v Speaker 2>one on one. So we'll split it up. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>something that I think is an advantage of us covering

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<v Speaker 2>the outlet, you know, covering for outlets that have multiple

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<v Speaker 2>people to be able to watch practice. So don't be demoralized,

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<v Speaker 2>don't think, don't get your hopes up that you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>see everything and then come and feel like, ah, dang,

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<v Speaker 2>like I miss so much. That's that's gonna happen. The

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<v Speaker 2>second little thing that I have here is I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>big scheme guy. All you guys know that I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>big x's and O is play design all that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff. In reality, camp is more about players than plays.

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<v Speaker 2>They're running a lot of their base formations, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of their base concepts in terms of the actual drawing

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<v Speaker 2>out of the plays right, the play design, all of

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<v Speaker 2>it is pretty much rudimentary stuff to an NFL team.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not getting into game planning, they're not getting into

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<v Speaker 2>exotic blitzes, they're not getting into all these crazy you know,

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<v Speaker 2>double passes and all that kind of stuff. So what

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<v Speaker 2>you're really going out there to do is focus on

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<v Speaker 2>who looks good, what players popping. You know, when when

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<v Speaker 2>Christian Gonzales goes up against DeVante Parker and Uh and

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<v Speaker 2>Juju and some of the top receivers on the team,

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<v Speaker 2>or when we get into joint practices. You might not

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<v Speaker 2>be there, but if you live in Nashville, in or

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<v Speaker 2>in the Green Bay area, you can come. It's there

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<v Speaker 2>open to the public. You can come when Juju or

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, Christian Gonzales goes up against Christian Watson at Lambeau, right, like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be a big matchup. So it's more about

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<v Speaker 2>players than plays. The other last thing and this one's

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<v Speaker 2>more tongue in cheek, but I gotta say it. Bring binoculars, binoculars.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know can people people can bring binoculars. I

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<v Speaker 2>think so. If not, don't bring binoculars, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>they can. Now, this is real. This is the real,

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<v Speaker 2>And I know it's it's sort of a joke, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's I cannot stress this point enough. You absolutely positively

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<v Speaker 2>need to come to training camp with sunscreen. If you

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<v Speaker 2>don't come with sunscreen or properly apply sunscreen before coming

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<v Speaker 2>to training camp, you will look like a red lobster

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<v Speaker 2>by the end of the day. Every single beat writer

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<v Speaker 2>under the sun, myself, Alex, we have all out how

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<v Speaker 2>many times have one of us gotten toasted out at

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<v Speaker 2>trading camp. It happens every year. It happens even if

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<v Speaker 2>you apply sunscreen. Sometimes there's not a lot of shade,

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<v Speaker 2>there's not a lot of cover from the sun. You

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna get your that sun's gonna come beaten down

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<v Speaker 2>on you. And the one thing you'll say about camp, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I love camp. It's my favorite time of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>We get to watch practice. As you know as two

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<v Speaker 2>football nerds, this is this is it. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>best part of covering the team. But it's hot, it's sticky,

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<v Speaker 2>it's humid. It's New England in August and it's and

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<v Speaker 2>it's sunny and you're gonna get burnt if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>wear sunscreen. People and you can being binocular.

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<v Speaker 1>So definitely bring binoculars because that's.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that whenever somebody starts out anew on the beat,

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<v Speaker 2>if they if they say that and reaches out to

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<v Speaker 2>me and asks me for for tips for training camp,

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<v Speaker 2>binoculars is my number one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I in terms of items to bring sunscreen, yes, binoculars,

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<v Speaker 1>yes it unless you're gonna get there really early and

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna end up on the bleachers. Bring like a

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<v Speaker 1>blanket or something to sit on the on the hill,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is better. Or if it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those days where it's overflow and you can get up

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<v Speaker 1>on the ramps. That's my favorite spots. Yeah, I love it,

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<v Speaker 1>So we do the shows from up on the ramps.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm spoiled being up there as I miss going up there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the other thing, make sure your phone's charged

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<v Speaker 1>because you're gonna want to look up, oh, who's this player?

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<v Speaker 1>And they'll give you a roster and like have your

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<v Speaker 1>roster ready too, but you're gonna want to look up

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<v Speaker 1>where'd they get this play? Where did this guy come from?

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<v Speaker 1>What did this guy do last year? Right? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of new players, and for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for us, it feels a little less new. I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of remind myself about this one because this is what

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing all spring. I'm on my phone, like

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, we as the guys come in, we

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<v Speaker 1>learn about them. But then you get there and you're like, oh, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>they're playing this guy here. How much did he play

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<v Speaker 1>there last year? I want to look this up and

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<v Speaker 1>that up. So charge definitely, you want a charged phone, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So what what tip do we have in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of like actually viewing live play.

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<v Speaker 1>So the best advice I ever got on this when

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<v Speaker 1>I covered you know, we went to college and I

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<v Speaker 1>covered the team there and the coaches were we got

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<v Speaker 1>to watch every day like all season, all the practices,

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<v Speaker 1>and the coaches were super awesome about helping me learn

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<v Speaker 1>the game. And I think the best advice I got

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<v Speaker 1>from them is if you really want to know what's important,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's hard to say, like, Okay, just watch this

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<v Speaker 1>at practice because different days are all about different things.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch what the coaches are watching. So look at Bill,

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<v Speaker 1>look at Girod, look at Bill O'Brien, look at Steve

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<v Speaker 1>right where are their eyes? Yeah, and then go where

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<v Speaker 1>their eyes are because those are the guys that are

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<v Speaker 1>making the decisions. Those are the guys that are going

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<v Speaker 1>to build a team, Those are the guys that are

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<v Speaker 1>going to come up with the game plans. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to try to like get ahead of it

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<v Speaker 1>and really learn what they're thinking, you've got to watch

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<v Speaker 1>what they're watching. And now they have the luxury if

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<v Speaker 1>they go back and they watch film of the whole

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<v Speaker 1>day and they'll see everything. But what are they looking

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<v Speaker 1>for what are they looking for, See where they're looking,

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<v Speaker 1>and then look at that because odds are that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>pretty important. And it's all sorry to add another it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you see, like if Bill's working one on one

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<v Speaker 1>with a player, you might notice, right, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times he's pulled this guy as side and

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<v Speaker 1>he talked to him, Or Bill O'Brien, same thing. He's

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<v Speaker 1>pulled the same receiver aside three or four times and

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<v Speaker 1>talked to him. Clearly there's an interest in that player

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<v Speaker 1>more so than just the base level. So honestly, look

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<v Speaker 1>at the coaches and look at what they're looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>That's generally where my eyes go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a great point. And I think one of

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<v Speaker 2>the coolest things that you hear about about coach Belichick

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<v Speaker 2>is he he's the exception to my number one thing

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<v Speaker 2>when we started this of you can't see everything. Somehow

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<v Speaker 2>Bill sees pretty much everything. Like he has that ability

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<v Speaker 2>to watch an eleven on eleven sequence with and he

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<v Speaker 2>can correct all twenty two guys. It's incredible. Yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 2>never seen anything like it. We are not that gifted, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So when I watch camp again, it kind of goes

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<v Speaker 2>back to what we were saying earlier. I tend to

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<v Speaker 2>try to focus on like one area of the field. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I try to narrow my scope because things, especially

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<v Speaker 2>when they get into team drills, it's too fast, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't it's too fast to dissect it to the

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<v Speaker 2>point where you can call out everything that happened. So

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<v Speaker 2>I will look at the secondary for one play, then

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<v Speaker 2>I might look at the trenches for another play, and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of go back and forth. I also tend to

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm an offense guy and I like quarterbacks and receivers.

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<v Speaker 2>I tend to try to play quarterback a little bit too,

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<v Speaker 2>and like kind of look at the coverages and the

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<v Speaker 2>route combinations and try to figure out where the ball

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<v Speaker 2>should be going, and seeing where the quarterbacks go and

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<v Speaker 2>then trying to either reverse engineer why did they go

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<v Speaker 2>there or figure it out from there.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say on top of that, And I generally

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<v Speaker 1>go back and forth between, Like sometimes I have the

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<v Speaker 1>binoculars and I'm on one player, and then sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>just put the monoculars down. I say, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to watch, Like I said, I can't see everything, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can get the general flow will play, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see how this whole thing plays out, route combinations,

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. Yeah, no, oh, what you're watching before

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<v Speaker 1>the play. You don't want to go what you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do. I learned this the hard way my

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<v Speaker 1>first year. You don't want to go into a play

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<v Speaker 1>saying all right, I'm just gonna wait and see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just gonna look to where the actions because like,

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<v Speaker 1>you can follow the ball, but if you're following the

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<v Speaker 1>ball to the catch point, by the time the ball's caught,

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<v Speaker 1>that receiver has already made his play. If you're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>following the ball and somebody gets a sack because there's

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<v Speaker 1>no you don't tackle the quarterback. But you saw the

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<v Speaker 1>player get sacked. You didn't see what he did, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't see the movie put on, so and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you'll miss it sometimes, you know, I'm like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to watch this receiver on this play, and

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<v Speaker 1>I get the binoculars out and I can't even see

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on at the line, you know, in the box.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just watching the receiver and then to run And

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<v Speaker 1>I just watched a run off that sucks. It happens sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why I also, you know, it's another point

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get too bigger. Know the drills listened for the drills,

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<v Speaker 1>but before each play kind of decide, I'm gonna use

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<v Speaker 1>the binocas, I'm gonna watch this guy, I'm gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>him down and I'm gonna watch all this or I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna watch Trent Brown on this player, I'm gonna watch

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<v Speaker 1>Taekwon Thornton on this player, I'm gonna watch Christian Gonzalez.

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<v Speaker 1>Decide before the play happens what you want to watch,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you wait until the play starts, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very faster.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, and with the in the trenches in team drills, frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you're not going to see what the blocking scheme

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<v Speaker 2>is if you if you know how to dissect blocking schemes,

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<v Speaker 2>like if it's you know, a gap player, if it's

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<v Speaker 2>his zone player, if it's a there's a polar like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes the runner just kind of comes out of the

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<v Speaker 2>line of scrimmage and you're just like, oh, oh, they

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<v Speaker 2>he got through right, like you know they You we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the benefit of the film, like we can't

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<v Speaker 2>go back and watch practice film like the like the

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<v Speaker 2>team does. So there's that what's some of the like

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<v Speaker 2>standard drills. I think some people like don't necessarily people

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<v Speaker 2>know that level, so maybe yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think so there's there's different kinds of practices,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's different drills within the practice. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to know that there's non padded practice, padded practice,

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<v Speaker 1>and joint practices, and.

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<v Speaker 2>They they're they're waited.

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<v Speaker 1>You put a lot more stock into what you see

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<v Speaker 1>to padded practice than in a non pad practice. The

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<v Speaker 1>joint pract are the cream of the crop.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like it, right, So those are like glorified preseason game.

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<v Speaker 1>If if you think an offensive lineman had a bad

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<v Speaker 1>day and an odd padded practice, you'd miss something like

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<v Speaker 1>you just you can't go off of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Within that, I mean there's three kind of umbrella drills

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll break down from there. There's generally there's

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<v Speaker 1>is sometimes you might see some other numbers, but there's ones,

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<v Speaker 1>there's fives, and there's seven. Yeah, so ones is one

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<v Speaker 1>on one and that can be receiver corner, that can

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<v Speaker 1>be a nine ozer line.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you get like the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Carrier linebacker safety drill where it's like tackling in space.

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<v Speaker 2>I also like the personally they do. Sometimes they do linebackers,

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<v Speaker 2>safeties versus tight ends and running.

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<v Speaker 1>Backs, which I like one on ones yeah so so,

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<v Speaker 1>but but you'll have guys going one on one. Ye,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll have seven on seven or I think some people

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<v Speaker 1>call it shells or scale U skeleton, and that's basically

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<v Speaker 1>that's only a passing drill and it's the quarterback and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a center there, but he doesn't do anything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's quarterback, center and five skill position players and then

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<v Speaker 1>it's seven place in the secondary. And that's more so used.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not evaluating off sevens. It's very rare evaluating off sevens.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a all right, we're gonna that's essentially the rehearsal.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, this is what we want the concepts to

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<v Speaker 1>look like. Let's get the timing down, let's get the

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<v Speaker 1>rhythm down, and then you get into eleven's which is

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what it sounds like, eleven on eleven live reps.

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<v Speaker 1>This is it when they go like sometimes it's a

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<v Speaker 1>long practice all a minute. Sometimes with the chat in

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<v Speaker 1>the tent, there were chatting or you know, whatever, What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think of this?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think of that?

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<v Speaker 1>How is your day eleven's happened the game one. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>stops what they're doing. You're watching eleven. So eleven padded practices,

0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:39.880
<v Speaker 1>eleven drills padded practice. That's where it's being decided. That

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<v Speaker 1>is as close to real football as you're gonna get.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the stuff you want to watch. And then i'd say,

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<v Speaker 1>on top of that, you'll if you listen, you'll usually hear.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're on a clock and there's a clock, you

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<v Speaker 1>can see it. There's a scoreboard, and that's how long

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<v Speaker 1>each drill is. And sometimes they go a little over.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a big horn at the end of each

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<v Speaker 1>session and somebody calls out what the next drill is?

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<v Speaker 2>Sticks? Is it sticks? Okay? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's got a massive voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it just him? Sometimes?

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<v Speaker 1>I think other people?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well the echobs sticks is the is the tall

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<v Speaker 2>black you'll see sis.

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<v Speaker 1>He's tall, he's got a beard, he's got an airhorn,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a big booming voice, and he'll yell out

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<v Speaker 1>with the drill is and.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes he's the Patriots equipment manager. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes we don't know what it means. Sometimes it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a code word. But sometimes he'll be like he'll say

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<v Speaker 1>like run fits, run fits. It's like, all right, they're

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<v Speaker 1>practicing runs. So what I said before about if you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna pick one player and watch, if you hear Stix

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<v Speaker 1>call out something that says run in it, probably don't

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<v Speaker 1>watch a receiver during that period because odds are they're

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<v Speaker 1>just doing runs. If you hear something about like during sevens,

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<v Speaker 1>don't watch the center. You don't need to watch the

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<v Speaker 1>center during sevens. Yeah, some and some drills are both.

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<v Speaker 1>Some drills are running and passing, and then you have

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<v Speaker 1>to decide. But if you can kind of hear what

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying, or you watch a couple of reps, you

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<v Speaker 1>might get an idea, and it can be more narrow

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<v Speaker 1>than run or pass. It might be outside run, it

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<v Speaker 1>might be screens, it might be this, it might be that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you get a better idea of what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>it helps you know what to look for and look

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<v Speaker 1>for where the action is really gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's a really good point. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>early on, for everybody, it's not it's not just don't

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<v Speaker 2>take it like like it's just you. For everybody, early on,

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<v Speaker 2>figuring out what the heck is going on is a

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<v Speaker 2>challenge it's a lot and if you didn't play football

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<v Speaker 2>growing up at like like in high school or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that, you're you're really looking at something that's a

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<v Speaker 2>completely different language in a lot of ways. You mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>one on ones uh, skeleton or seven on seven as

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<v Speaker 2>some people call it, eleven's Uh. The Patriots are a

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<v Speaker 2>team that does does do some nine on seven as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and nine on seven is typically running. Some teams call

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<v Speaker 2>it inside six. I think the Patriots called old school

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<v Speaker 2>nine on seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>That's usually seven blockers against nine defenders. And it's a undrill.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's that too. And then the Pats, as you

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<v Speaker 2>probably would expect, do quite a bit of open field

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<v Speaker 2>tackling stuff as well. But what they're not necessarily tackling

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<v Speaker 2>to the ground in those drills, But what they're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to do is they're trying to play the leverage right,

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<v Speaker 2>so play to help or play to the sideline. So

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<v Speaker 2>you'll often hear coaches yell during those drills, and that

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<v Speaker 2>those drills get intense, like the coaches try to get

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<v Speaker 2>on guys during that portion and they'll yell things about,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, force them to your help for them to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, play your leverage things like that, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about as either your help is either in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the field, like you're trying to funnel him

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<v Speaker 2>into the help defender in the middle of the field,

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<v Speaker 2>or you're trying to use the sideline as your help

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<v Speaker 2>and that might be where your leverage is at, so

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<v Speaker 2>you're taking that outside leverage position to push them back

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<v Speaker 2>out to the sideline. Those are some of the other

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<v Speaker 2>kind of nuanced drills that I think that they do.

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<v Speaker 2>They did some new drills in the spring of some

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<v Speaker 2>conditioning stuff. I don't know if we're going to see

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<v Speaker 2>that in camp.

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<v Speaker 1>I got that last day when they were doing all

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<v Speaker 1>that running.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that might that might just be a spring thing

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<v Speaker 2>because it is more of a conditioning camp than it

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<v Speaker 2>is a real football camp. So I think the other

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<v Speaker 2>couple of things that I wanted to mention were just

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<v Speaker 2>some of the other like tells that you can kind

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<v Speaker 2>of pick up on music. Music is key, yes, because

0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:13.879
<v Speaker 2>the Patriots they try to simulate a game environment, so

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<v Speaker 2>they used music as crowd noise essentially, and you can

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<v Speaker 2>tell that they are really ramping it up during team

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<v Speaker 2>drills during elevens is Alex laid out when the music starts.

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<v Speaker 1>Going right because they want to make it tough to communicate.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you hear bon Jovi or it tends to

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<v Speaker 2>be like eighties rock, right, I wonder who's picking it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it tends to be like some bon Jovi or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Every once in a while you can tell

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<v Speaker 2>the players have the ox cord and it will be

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<v Speaker 2>rap or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Or Luke Colms if it's David Andrews. There's that one

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<v Speaker 1>day the spring where it was all Luke Colms stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and I would just add on top of

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<v Speaker 1>that goal line too, is another sign that they're really

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<v Speaker 1>ramping up. Like music and goal line means okay, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said before, you had like one seven's, eleven's and

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<v Speaker 1>then there's another and then padded and unpadded. The other

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<v Speaker 1>factor here is music, no music, and where are they

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<v Speaker 1>on the field? Are they doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Two minute?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they doing? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>If they bring out the downs.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they do eleven on eleven, they just do it

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the field, right, and they just

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<v Speaker 1>keep resetting the ball at the same spot. But sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you'll see they'll bring out down markers and they'll move

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<v Speaker 1>the ball based on the place. If they're moving the

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<v Speaker 1>ball they're at like the more layers there are, the

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<v Speaker 1>more stock you should put into that drill.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, Yeah, and then you also have to think about

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<v Speaker 2>or look at you talked about looking at the coaches

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<v Speaker 2>during team drills during eleven on elevens, Belichick will often

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<v Speaker 2>call out situations. And that's another sort of patriot centric

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<v Speaker 2>thing that you know. I've been to a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>joint practices and now at this point, they don't do

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<v Speaker 2>that as much as far as they can tell, at

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<v Speaker 2>other places. Now, in Vegas they did it because you

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<v Speaker 2>know who's coaching Vegas, right, But in other places they

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<v Speaker 2>don't do it quite as much. But what you'll see

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<v Speaker 2>is is you'll see a bill kind of bark out

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<v Speaker 2>some things of like thirty seconds left on the clock,

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<v Speaker 2>it's first and ten, you're at your twenty five, you

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<v Speaker 2>need a field goal to win the and they'll literally

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<v Speaker 2>play out the entire situation. They'll drive the football and

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<v Speaker 2>it goes either way. Sometimes Alex, they they just move

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<v Speaker 2>the ball to the spots just to go through the

0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:16.120
<v Speaker 2>motions of the drill. Right. Sometimes it's truly competitive and

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<v Speaker 2>like the defense has an opportunity to get a stop

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<v Speaker 2>and if they get to stop, the defense wins the drill.

0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:24.920
<v Speaker 2>And sometimes the offense just moves the ball anyways, just

0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:28.800
<v Speaker 2>so that they can practice the situation. So thirty seconds

0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:32.239
<v Speaker 2>ago balls on the twenty five you need to get

0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:34.879
<v Speaker 2>into field goal range and they'll play it out. They'll

0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.359
<v Speaker 2>go down the field and then they'll sub off the

0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:40.399
<v Speaker 2>offense for the field goal team and they'll force a

0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:42.720
<v Speaker 2>field goal up and if it goes through, it goes through.

0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:46.080
<v Speaker 2>So there there's a lot of that at a Patriots practice.

0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:49.879
<v Speaker 2>A lot the Patriots, don't you mentioned like putting the

0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:51.119
<v Speaker 2>ball in the middle of the field and just do

0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:53.639
<v Speaker 2>an eleven on eleven to do The Patriots do that

0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:56.480
<v Speaker 2>sometimes for sure, but they don't do as much of

0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:58.280
<v Speaker 2>that as some other teams do, I don't think, because

0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:02.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot of their stuff is strictly situational. Last thing

0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:03.720
<v Speaker 2>for me, maybe if you.

0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Haven't got I got one more.

0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, last thing for me. If you're gonna come to

0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:10.600
<v Speaker 2>early training camp, like first couple of days, it's not

0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:12.720
<v Speaker 2>gonna be in pads. They put that out there first

0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:16.520
<v Speaker 2>and foremost. Second thing every single year that I've covered

0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:19.600
<v Speaker 2>the team, which for camp, the full game it's been nineteen,

0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:21.800
<v Speaker 2>so that's what four years now. Yeah, this is going

0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:26.600
<v Speaker 2>on five. They have started with red zone and every single.

0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:29.159
<v Speaker 1>No, we started in eighteen. We covered a super Bowl, dude, I.

0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:31.119
<v Speaker 2>Know, but it wasn't a camp at eight you were, No,

0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:31.600
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't.

0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:34.560
<v Speaker 1>You were definitely had a couple practices late in the year. Okay,

0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:39.960
<v Speaker 1>they started in red zone every single time. Yeah, every time.

0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:41.920
<v Speaker 2>If they don't start in red zone, it will be

0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:43.840
<v Speaker 2>the first time that Paul Perillo said that they haven't

0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:45.760
<v Speaker 2>started in red zone in like twenty years. Eight. I

0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:47.840
<v Speaker 2>don't think that they barely did non red zone stuf.

0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Last year. Everything was in red zone. So get prepared

0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:51.960
<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna come for the very first practice on

0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:55.879
<v Speaker 2>July twenty sixth, to it not be padded and for

0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:58.640
<v Speaker 2>them to live the entire time inside the twenty.

0:21:58.480 --> 0:21:59.960
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna live in red zone. Whenever you come.

0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:02.320
<v Speaker 2>They do a lot of red ze. Yeah.

0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:04.879
<v Speaker 1>The last thing I would say, it's gonna sound very

0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:08.240
<v Speaker 1>predictable coming from me. Uh, be careful judging a playoff

0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:10.800
<v Speaker 1>single mistake. Yeah, And there's two reasons for that.

0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:14.760
<v Speaker 2>One is that everybody's susceptible to this because it does

0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:16.879
<v Speaker 2>stand out in your right, it's impossible for it not to.

0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:20.760
<v Speaker 1>So one. This is a classic belichickism. It's okay to like,

0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:23.720
<v Speaker 1>everybody's gonna make mistakes, don't make the same mistake twice.

0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:25.919
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I watch for. Right, Tom Brady got

0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:26.719
<v Speaker 1>picked off in training camp.

0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:27.440
<v Speaker 2>At times it happened.

0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:29.840
<v Speaker 1>What they want to see is do you learn from

0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:32.359
<v Speaker 1>that mistake and do you prevent yourself from making it again.

0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:35.520
<v Speaker 1>You've got to remember, like And the other thing is

0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:39.880
<v Speaker 1>sometimes there's instances where they're trying things. This is an

0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:43.919
<v Speaker 1>experimental kind of atmosphere where you can fool around things.

0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:46.320
<v Speaker 1>They may say, hey, Mac, you know, try throwing this

0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:48.040
<v Speaker 1>route on this concept and see what happens. And he

0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:50.280
<v Speaker 1>might get picked and everybody goes, oh, Mac Jones threw

0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:51.800
<v Speaker 1>a pick. Well, the coach might told him to throw

0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:53.800
<v Speaker 1>the ball. Throw the baller and see what happens, right,

0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:56.320
<v Speaker 1>and things like that, or sometimes it's and this is

0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:57.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if the Patriots do this, but I

0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:01.040
<v Speaker 1>know there's other teams that do this at certain players ready,

0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Like for instance, to get Mac ready, they may go

0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:05.040
<v Speaker 1>to Trent Brown and eleven on eleven peer and say,

0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:07.680
<v Speaker 1>let you down through the snap just let you done

0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:09.760
<v Speaker 1>through and it looks like Trent Brown took a snap off,

0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 1>but they wanted Mac to have to deal with that pressure.

0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:15.480
<v Speaker 1>And people go, oh, so you're excusing Trent Brown. He said, no,

0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:17.400
<v Speaker 1>it can happen to anybody. But yeah, they may tell

0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:20.320
<v Speaker 1>a corner. Hey, just you know, just fall off, fallfter out,

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:23.400
<v Speaker 1>fafter out. We want to see things.

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 2>Like That's a big one. Is especially late in the

0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:26.000
<v Speaker 2>practice when they are go to like more like a

0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:28.679
<v Speaker 2>glarth fied walk through. Yeah, a lot of the times

0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:31.280
<v Speaker 2>they are just letting them catch it, like right, it's

0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:33.520
<v Speaker 2>not a true live drill. I think that that's a

0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:36.160
<v Speaker 2>really good point that that this is a hard thing

0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:36.840
<v Speaker 2>to decipher.

0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's not like it's really not Oh this

0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:43.040
<v Speaker 1>player messed up, he's done. It's is the same Are

0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:46.720
<v Speaker 1>you seeing the same player making the same mistake or

0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:49.280
<v Speaker 1>trailing or like, is the same player putting himself in

0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the same bad spot repeatedly? That's when you get into it.

0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:55.920
<v Speaker 1>One bad play sometimes and sometimes guys have bad plays.

0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:58.280
<v Speaker 1>It's not to excuse all of it. One bad play.

0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:00.159
<v Speaker 1>You can't write a guy off because one day a

0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:02.040
<v Speaker 1>chance makeup for it. And two you don't know what

0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the scheme was, the situation, the story I always tell

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:06.840
<v Speaker 1>and I don't This wasn't one where the coaches told

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:08.440
<v Speaker 1>him to do it, like that's something that happens. This

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 1>is one where I think a guy made a bad mistake.

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I was a training camp. I used to go every

0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:14.280
<v Speaker 1>here with my dad. I was a training camp two

0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 1>thousand and nine. He was kind of late in the summer,

0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:19.560
<v Speaker 1>and they were padded and they were doing red zone

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:21.399
<v Speaker 1>and it was a rough day for the defense, and

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:22.879
<v Speaker 1>you could tell they were getting frustrated. I think there

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:25.159
<v Speaker 1>was a fight earlier in the day and it was

0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:28.720
<v Speaker 1>the ones against the scout team. And Brady drops back

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:32.320
<v Speaker 1>and this journeyman defensive end comes flying around and clocks

0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 1>him Tom Brady, and he had a run two laps.

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the only time I've ever seen a

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:38.879
<v Speaker 1>player run two laps for like one mistake. And my

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 1>dad leans over. So that guy's not making the team.

0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 2>It was Rob Nikovic.

0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:45.920
<v Speaker 1>So you know it's like if a guy makes one

0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:49.240
<v Speaker 1>bad play, yeah, you can say he made a bad play,

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:52.920
<v Speaker 1>but clearly Rob Nikovitch made the team. Clearly he overcame

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:55.720
<v Speaker 1>that because the rest of that camp, he was excellent.

0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 1>He was great that year. So that's why again, it's

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:01.440
<v Speaker 1>not about oh, this guy made a bad play, let's

0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:04.199
<v Speaker 1>move him down the depth chart. It's I keep like,

0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:06.760
<v Speaker 1>I keep seeing this guy coming up on the wrong

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 1>end of a drill. It's that kind of thing. And

0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:11.200
<v Speaker 1>it may not be he may not be making these

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 1>massive mistakes, but it's like, man, you know, it feels

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:17.680
<v Speaker 1>like four or five times today, I've seen this corner

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:19.800
<v Speaker 1>in coverage when a ball gets completed.

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:21.639
<v Speaker 2>It's that and maybe they're not.

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:23.960
<v Speaker 1>He's not clearly getting beat, but it's like he's allowed

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of catches today, or you know, I just

0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:28.119
<v Speaker 1>this edge rusher has not shown up. It's been a

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:30.119
<v Speaker 1>good day for the defense, but this edge rusher is not.

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:32.359
<v Speaker 1>That's more what you're looking for than just oh he

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 1>made a bad play.

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 2>He sucks. Yeah, I think that just to wrap this up,

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 2>and then we'll get into some of the the fun

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:42.480
<v Speaker 2>suggestions here. Yeah. The one of the harder things to

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 2>do as well is to decipher what is truly live

0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 2>and what is is not are what or what's like

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:52.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, sort of the line of lines that you

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:55.120
<v Speaker 2>were saying, like they're telling them to do this right right,

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 2>So a lot of the time we get you know,

0:25:57.200 --> 0:25:59.720
<v Speaker 2>a perfect example just happened at the end of the spring.

0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 2>They're doing a job what i'd call jog through, which

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:06.879
<v Speaker 2>is a walk through, but they're at least kind of

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 2>trying to put some pace to it. They're jogging around

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 2>and Mac Jones just kind of lazily flicked the ball

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 2>out into the flat because it's not a live drill,

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 2>it's not meant to be a live drill. And Kyle

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Duggar jumped in front of the pass and returned it

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 2>for a pick six. Yeah, and Mac kind of got

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:27.360
<v Speaker 2>on him about it, and after the practice he kind

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:31.240
<v Speaker 2>of mentioned it in his press conference as well. And

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:35.359
<v Speaker 2>I'll give credit to the beat. Most of the guys

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 2>said Mac threw a pick six at the end of

0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:41.439
<v Speaker 2>practice to Kyle Duggar, but it looked like it was

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't a live drill, Like, don't take it seriously.

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:46.920
<v Speaker 2>So when those things happen, you got to be able

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 2>to try to keep in mind or decipher that that

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:54.200
<v Speaker 2>wasn't actually live. Kyle dugger shouldn't have picked that off.

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:56.919
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't the point of the drill, and that was

0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 2>just that wasn't something to hold against Mac like you

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:03.200
<v Speaker 2>herew that in. Right. There's also instances where they might

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:06.320
<v Speaker 2>be practicing hail mary's, and of course the hail mary

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:08.399
<v Speaker 2>might get picked off or heile mary might go for

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:11.160
<v Speaker 2>a touchdown or whatever. It might be a horrible decision

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 2>that he's throwing at hell Mary into three defenders, right,

0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 2>But that was the drill. It wasn't like Mac just

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 2>chucked it up. It just that they were running a

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 2>hell Mary.

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:20.199
<v Speaker 1>There's even time I know, So I don't know if

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots have done this. I know I went to

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 1>a a Bills training camp when I was up in

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>New York. This was years ago, so like pre Josh

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Allen and all that, and there was one where like

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 1>three plays and I forget who the quarterback was that

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:35.400
<v Speaker 1>it was like their third string quarterback, like the guy

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>like never made it in the league. But like three

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 1>plays in a row, the guy throws a pick and

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 1>we're sitting there like what's going on?

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 2>It's terrible.

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Nobody was close. And then we found out because some

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:45.159
<v Speaker 1>day I knew like intern for the team whatever, it

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:49.399
<v Speaker 1>was a interception return drill. Oh, so is everybody. I

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 1>remember everybody walked in. I remember seeing Bill's writers being like,

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 1>this was one of the worst periods I've ever seen.

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 1>He couldn't stop but throwing interception and I don't know

0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 1>if the Patriots do that not. At the point is

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:00.919
<v Speaker 1>like you never really know. So again, it's kind of

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 1>that consistency thing. Are you seeing it throughout the day?

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:05.640
<v Speaker 1>If you go multiple days, you continuing to see it,

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:08.239
<v Speaker 1>that's more what you're looking for.

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:10.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, that was a lot of information, but hopefully it

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 2>was helpful, and I think the biggest the biggest thing

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.120
<v Speaker 2>that we could suggest, other than to bring sunscreen, that's

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 2>the biggest thing I could suggest. But other than that,

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:20.159
<v Speaker 2>the biggest thing that we could suggest is have a

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 2>game plan, just like they do right, come into practice

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:26.360
<v Speaker 2>or go into every single drill with a plan of

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 2>this is what I'm watching, this is what I'm focusing on,

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 2>and stop trying to see the forest because you're not

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 2>going to be able to so just focus on the trees, right,

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:37.360
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's that's the hardest part. And we're

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 2>like I said, you know, we have the benefit of

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 2>being able to split up duties with our colleagues and

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 2>also going every single day. So it's different for us

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 2>in that respect than it is for somebody coming out

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 2>to camp once. All right, a couple of more fun

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 2>things here. Yeah, what what's like your your favorite activity

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 2>to do while you're down here other than going into practice. Like,

0:28:57.200 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 2>if I had to make a suggestion just to I

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 2>would say, if you have the time, if you're looking

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 2>for to kind of make a day out of it,

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 2>the Pats Hall of Fame.

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, go to the hall. Go to the hall, and

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people just like I want to walk around.

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to watch the movie. Watch the movie.

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Watch them there's a movie before you go in.

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 2>It's the best part. I love the movie.

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I get at one point in my life I could

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>like quote a word for it. Have you been fifteen minutes?

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Have you been to Cooperstown? I have?

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So they have a little movie there as well.

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 2>It's you I know. But I'm not saying it's better.

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, like, when you go to a Hall

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 2>of fame, you go to you watch the movie.

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>It's autumn in New England.

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 2>That's how it's That's how it starts.

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 1>If that's not enough to sell, if that doesn't give

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>you chill, And there's like do you want to narrate it?

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Or I probably could. I used to be able to

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 2>prose good.

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 1>There's like like high shot and they're panning over like

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Cranberry bogs, and you see the trees are like.

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 2>Orange and brown?

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you know we in New England? So good every time.

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 2>The first time that I learned about the Cranberry bogs

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 2>were when I started working here. I had no idea

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 2>those even exist.

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean I grew up down the ship like I

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>grew up, you know in Sharon, Cranberry bogs in Sharon,

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>ocean sprays right behind.

0:29:58.040 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 2>You can go watch you can go look at the

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 2>craw Brady box up at Patriot Place in the in

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 2>the back. That's true, they're behind.

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to call it a hike because it's

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>a fun block. It's a nice walk. It's a little

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:11.479
<v Speaker 1>bit of a walk probably in the summer is probably tough.

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I normally do that like in the fun.

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 2>All right, most important lunch recommendations. Okay, this is important.

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 2>This is really what we're talking about here.

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<v Speaker 1>So I at Patriots Place. Yeah, I really like Anchildo's

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 1>it's a good suggestion, which it used to be a

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>mos if you're familiar with it, that's like obviously Burrito

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>the Middle five Guys is and uh, what is that still?

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to say, bunch of places around. Yeah, Anchelito's

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>is good. Bartloui is always good. If you're like staying

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 1>late you want to do dinner. Saga is a LATCHI

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 1>play sushi. That spot's really good. But if you just

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>want to grab like a quick lunch on your way in,

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the spot is.

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Good food Store. We gotta go to Good Food I.

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Have been going there since I was in high school.

0:30:57.840 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a US, so it's I used to go there

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>when I was in high school and I see like

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 1>my grease there. Yeah, and now I go there.

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:10.000
<v Speaker 2>But that's you can't wrong. Don't undersell how popular you

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 2>are at good food Store. I walk in with Alex

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 2>a good food store and you would think the freaking

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 2>mayor of Shamnon.

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>You are going to see odds are if you go

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 1>to good food storre you're gonna be either see somebody

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>went to high school with or somebody went to high

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 1>school with with parents.

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, every time somebody knows Alex and we walk into

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Good Food Store full disclosure. We try to go every

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Friday during the season to flow. Yeah, it's a mandate,

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 2>we know. And we go to Good Food Store for

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 2>lunch in between practice and a media availability in the afternoon.

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 2>You have a little bit of a gap there most

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 2>of the time, a couple of hours and we go

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 2>to Good Food Store and we both get the same

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 2>thing every single time, which I think is al we.

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Don't we we don't change our or we get different things,

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 1>but like each.

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Week, Yeah, so I typically go with the honey turkey sandwich. Yeah,

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 2>which Morella, who knows my turkey sandwich order, is not

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 2>going to be surprised at all by this. It's smoked honey, turkey, honey, mustard, lettuce.

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 2>You know you. I'm not a big like veggies guy.

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 2>But like, you can get the works on it. You

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 2>can get cheese on it if you want. And but

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 2>but Alex gets the samwich. Yeah.

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Well no, So there's a couple when you go in

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>on the wall, they have like all the big posters

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>of all their sandwiches.

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Alex Bartha is gonna be on there some.

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 1>No, it's called the Blackjack. I hope they don't change it.

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>It's called the blackjack. That's what I get. But there's

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 1>like a little like all the sandwiches that you I

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 1>had the other sandwiches there at other times you cannot

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 1>go wrong.

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 2>It's it's really freaking good. It's really good. We had

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Matt Dolla from ninety eight five. He came with us

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 2>last year for the first time, and even he had to.

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Everybody who goes rolls their eyes because they're like, oh,

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>you're definitely over hyping it, and then they get the

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 1>sad one with you, like it's no way it's this good,

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>and then you win, You're like, that's good.

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 2>There's also jersey mikes. There's also jersey mikes. That's that's

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 2>the uh, I can't do jersey mikes like that. I

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>gotta go No. I know that's your spot wall pull

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 2>right at the end of root one. But if you're

0:32:57.240 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 2>going in Patriot Place, Angelito is a game sensitive stomach,

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 2>like I do, they'll be prepared for afterwards.

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 1>But so I would say, of all the like, there's

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 1>some like obviously good like sit down places, right, but

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 1>if you just want to like go in grab food,

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>keep your day going, like like grabbing gold places, I

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>don't think you beat the Toledo's up there. It's it's

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 1>it's really good.

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 2>It might be the kid in me, but Red Robin

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 2>still does it for me a little bit. I mean,

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 2>I like that. That's different.

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 1>It's like you're sitting down or like committing Toledo's. It's

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>a burrito place. You get your bawl or your burrito.

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 2>It's just like a Chipotle, but it's nicer than better. Yeah.

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 2>But if I'm sitting down at Patriot Place, I'm still

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 2>going to the Red Robin. I am. I like Barlouis.

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I like, I can't remember what it's called that. It

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 1>used to be CBSC and they've changed the game so

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>many times. Sport Club now CBS Sports Club, whatever it is. Yeah,

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 1>that place is pretty good.

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 2>That I think. If I if I had to watch

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 2>a game at Patriot Place, not that we have to

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 2>do that.

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember our first year we covered a gate,

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 1>covered a game from there with drags. It was that

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Lions game.

0:33:57.960 --> 0:33:59.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they got killed.

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>They got killed by bad game. Bentley got hurt.

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 2>That was awful. Yeah, but that that's Uh. Those are

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:10.839
<v Speaker 2>the most important recommendations we give. And good food store

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 2>if you're just looking for like a sandwich. You know,

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 2>in and out. You're not looking to really spend a

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 2>ton of time. It's worth the drive down the street.

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 2>It's not it's not in Patriot Place, but it's like

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 2>ten minutes away. Yeah, it's It's it's a like a

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 2>local spot. So you're not going to I love Jersey Mice,

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 2>but you're not going to Jersey Mice. You're not going

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:30.360
<v Speaker 2>to Panera like it's it's one of those like authentic

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 2>to the to the area. So TVs Sports Scenes is

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 2>no longer there. It's called the Harp. Now that's right.

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Well I love the Heart by the Garden, So there

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 2>you go. Are they expecting I'm not gonna we work

0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:45.520
<v Speaker 2>with Patriot Place. I'm not taking shots at the people

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Patriot Place. But are they expecting people to like go

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.320
<v Speaker 2>out like they do in Boston at the Harp placed.

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 2>I'll go to the Harp before Celtics game just for dinner.

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah oh really, Yeah, I didn't know it was like

0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 2>a place like that.

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah no, they got good food. I assume it's

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 1>the same. I'm gonna assume it's same. Men, you were

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>close to it, So yeah, the Harp down by the

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Garden is really good food. People don't know that, but

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 1>they do so. I again, if the food is anything

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:09.719
<v Speaker 1>like that, that's definitely a spot you can go.

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well that they just opened that. I'm still going

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:14.359
<v Speaker 2>to Red Robin, all right, I'm pretty sure the Red

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Robin still does the unlimited fries if you sit down,

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 2>get as many fries as you want.

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:19.319
<v Speaker 1>I remember the Onion Ring Tower.

0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 2>So there's like seventeen different like huge burgers that you get.

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean that like you're in for it. You know

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna you're gonna.

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:31.560
<v Speaker 1>See that you have if you're doing Red Robin or

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 1>or the Harp or like one of these sit down

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 1>place or even Angelitos because it's heavy. It's a burrito

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 1>that's after practice. Do not do that before practice. Well,

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:41.799
<v Speaker 1>you are gonna hate yourself. I'll give you.

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Want one more spot. Yeah, it's good. So it's it's

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:46.280
<v Speaker 2>probably about the same drive as good food stores.

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Not at Patch place, but if you go to Ward's

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Berry Farm and Sharon, oh we we've been there before. Yeah. Yeah,

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 1>they also have really good sandwiches. You can sit outside.

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Smoothies are amazing. Uh, that's another good spot around here.

0:35:56.560 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 2>You might also see many deuce deuces works at words.

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 2>He does. I gotta go to it. I've been meaning

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:05.279
<v Speaker 2>to go there. Now I really gotta go, he does.

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:09.400
<v Speaker 2>And is is your ice cream spot too far away?

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Like that? Oh Cridge Crescent Ridge?

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's if you really want to make a

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:15.879
<v Speaker 1>day of it, like at the end of the day,

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:17.799
<v Speaker 1>it's on the other side. It's like, so you got

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:20.400
<v Speaker 1>to drive. I guess it's not that far because you

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:23.880
<v Speaker 1>come up Route one. You basically got to drive through Sharon.

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 1>You gotta drive all the way across Sharon. But yes,

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 1>there's an ice cream place called the Crescent Ridge. It

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 1>was I think it was Time or CNN did this

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 1>big thing a couple of years ago. That was the

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 1>one hundred best ice cream place in America and Crescent

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:38.399
<v Speaker 1>Ridge came in second. And I've been to the place

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 1>that came in first, and I didn't think it was

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:41.799
<v Speaker 1>very good. Crescent Ridge is the best ice cream you'll

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 1>ever have. If you really want to wrap up your

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 1>day in style, you go to Cridge.

0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 2>What can you tell he's from Sharon or can you

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 2>tell you's from Sharon? You know I'm from around here.

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 2>I know where to go. What's the what's so bad

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 2>about It's good dhen Alex and I first started working together.

0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 2>He gave me, you know, I had the whole lowdown.

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.759
<v Speaker 2>I knew where to go to eat for lunch, it's important,

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 2>and all those types of things. So there we have it.

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 2>That's that's our Patriots training camp day. If we had

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 2>to sum it up, you got get to practice a

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 2>little bit early. You don't have to be there an

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:11.239
<v Speaker 2>hour early. Well, I guess with the fans that you

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 2>if you want a good spot.

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 1>If you're going on the weekend, do you want to

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 1>get there pretty early. If you're coming during the week

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 1>especially like after the first day, it's it's not too bad.

0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 1>But if you're coming on the weekend, either show up

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 1>really early or if you show up like right on

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>time and you're part of that later group, you might

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 1>get in the overflow, which is up on the rams, right.

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 2>So come a little bit early. I would say, it

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have to be two hours. You don't have to

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 2>camp out, but come a little bit early. The second

0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 2>thing that I would say, you know, all the things

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:41.799
<v Speaker 2>that we said about, you know, try to focus in

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:44.280
<v Speaker 2>on little things that practice. Try to see the trees,

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 2>not the forest. This isn't you know, you're not gonna

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 2>be able to see everything, and most importantly, post practice

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 2>launch it at Good Food Store. We're giving Good Food

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Store the top spot. And I'm sorry Jersey Mikes, please

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:58.399
<v Speaker 2>don't take it personally. I still love you, but we're

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:01.399
<v Speaker 2>giving Good Food Store the top spot and that does

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:04.439
<v Speaker 2>it for our training camp. FAQ. This was fun. I'm glad.

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad we did this. This was fun, a little

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:09.239
<v Speaker 2>bit different, a little bit outside the box. But Alex

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:11.919
<v Speaker 2>and I will be back next week on Thursday, same time,

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:15.359
<v Speaker 2>same place to break down training camp. Well maybe same time.

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 1>We don't know same time because we don't know what

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 1>the practice schedule is going to be true, but it'll

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.240
<v Speaker 1>be at some point on Thursday afternoon.

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 2>To break down training camp. Can you believe it? We

0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 2>made it. We made it, folks, We made it through

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:30.160
<v Speaker 2>the NFL offseason once again. Football will be back. I'm excited,

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Alex is excited. We're living it up and we'll be

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 2>back next Thursday to break down all of the happenings

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:38.479
<v Speaker 2>out at Patriots training camp and hopefully we'll see you there.