1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex Barth. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 2: And Lazarre. Hello, everybody nailed it? Joined us always by 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 2: our bark. Here is Evan Lazar and Alex bars eighty 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: eight to forty one? Was that one on a napkin? 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: I was about but then he threw back to me 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: too quickly the other one And and by the way, 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: shout out. 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: To whoever put in the chatay rowling, shout out to 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: what Hello everybody, and welcome into a new edition of 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 2: the Patriots Cast twenty two podcasts here on Patriots dot Com. 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 2: Evan Lazar joined us always by Alex Barth. Even though 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: we're not we're not live live okay, So don't don't 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: call in, don't email in, don't don't blow up the 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: phones for morell because there's nobody to speak to on 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: the air. So just putting that out there again. This 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: is like one of those things where we need to 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: like have a written disclaimer at the top too, right, 19 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: like this isn't live okay, uh so don't don't get lost. 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: But the idea behind this show and Alex and I 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: were trying to think of a way to do something 22 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: that's that is what we call in the biz evergreen, right, 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: you don't have to worry about breaking news or something 24 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: like that, making it uh not relevant anymore. So we 25 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: thought what a great idea would be is to break 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: down how Alex and I watch training camp practices, what 27 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 2: our routines are, what are what things we're looking for 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: out on the football field during practice, so that when 29 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: you guys hopefully come get an opportunity to come down 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: to Patriots training camp here at Gillette, you can watch it. 31 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 2: I hate to call us pros, but media pros, not 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: saying football how the nerds. That's a better way of 33 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: putting it. How the nerds watch it. That that's the 34 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: goal here. We're also gonna have some fun with it. 35 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: We'll give you a couple of little tricks of the 36 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: trade to make sure that you have a good day. 37 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: One one is particularly important that I'll get to you 38 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: in a second. And also some of our favorite lunch spots, 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: because usually practices around ten and it gets out around 40 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: noon twelve thirty. If you stay for autographs after practice, 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: and it's perfect opportunity to go to Patriot Place or 42 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: some of the nearby spots to grab lunch afterwards. If 43 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: you're coming with your family for come with your kids, 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: it's great. But let's start with the football side of it. 45 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: So I have a couple of things, a couple things 46 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: I want to talk about. Then we'll get into like 47 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: the nitty gritty of how we watch practice. So I 48 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 2: think one of the biggest things that I can can't 49 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: stress enough, and I think sometimes we I'm going to 50 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: couple lumpus all in so I'm not calling out anybody individually. 51 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: We kind of give off the impression that we see 52 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: everything at a training camp practice. And I'm here to 53 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: tell you that anybody that says that they saw everything 54 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: that happened at a training camp practice is lying. Yes, 55 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: it's impossible to see everything. It's two fields. They're on 56 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: a two field. It's ninety guys, it's two hundred yards 57 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: of football field, right Like, there's no way you're going 58 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: to see everything. Don't come to camp, and don't be demoralized. 59 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: If you do come to camp and you feel like 60 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: you miss stuff, it's it's tough. 61 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: Like you're watching on one field and hear a big 62 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: cheer all of a sudden because something happened on the 63 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: other field that happens. It happens to all of. 64 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 2: Us, and that's that's a big thing because we get 65 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: lucky and that we cover the team and so we 66 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: get to come every single day. So if I didn't 67 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: really watch the defensive line much on Monday, I can 68 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: come back and Tuesday can be the defensive line day. 69 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 2: And that's sort of how I go approaching it. 70 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes the other thing is like a lot of us, 71 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: you know, we're not the only one from our outland, right, So, 72 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: like I work with Matt dolofense, so we'll be like, 73 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna watch the you know, if it's 74 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: the ones on offense and the ones on defense or 75 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: a different field, I'm gonna watch the offense, you watch 76 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: the defense, or I'm gonna watch this I'm gonna watch 77 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: this player, you watch this player. 78 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, So what we do with Deuce and I, I'm 79 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: usually more the offense guy, and he's usually more because 80 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: he's more interested in the defense. I'm more interested in offense, 81 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: so he'll watch defense a lot of the time. I'll 82 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: watch offense, or like during O line and D line 83 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: one on one, sometimes the be doing cornerback and receiver 84 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: one on one. So we'll split it up. And that's 85 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: something that I think is an advantage of us covering 86 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: the outlet, you know, covering for outlets that have multiple 87 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: people to be able to watch practice. So don't be demoralized, 88 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: don't think, don't get your hopes up that you're gonna 89 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: see everything and then come and feel like, ah, dang, 90 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: like I miss so much. That's that's gonna happen. The 91 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: second little thing that I have here is I'm a 92 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: big scheme guy. All you guys know that I'm a 93 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: big x's and O is play design all that kind 94 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: of stuff. In reality, camp is more about players than plays. 95 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 2: They're running a lot of their base formations, a lot 96 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 2: of their base concepts in terms of the actual drawing 97 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: out of the plays right, the play design, all of 98 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,119 Speaker 2: it is pretty much rudimentary stuff to an NFL team. 99 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 2: We're not getting into game planning, they're not getting into 100 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: exotic blitzes, they're not getting into all these crazy you know, 101 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: double passes and all that kind of stuff. So what 102 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: you're really going out there to do is focus on 103 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: who looks good, what players popping. You know, when when 104 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: Christian Gonzales goes up against DeVante Parker and Uh and 105 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 2: Juju and some of the top receivers on the team, 106 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: or when we get into joint practices. You might not 107 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: be there, but if you live in Nashville, in or 108 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: in the Green Bay area, you can come. It's there 109 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: open to the public. You can come when Juju or 110 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 2: excuse me, Christian Gonzales goes up against Christian Watson at Lambeau, right, like, 111 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: that's gonna be a big matchup. So it's more about 112 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: players than plays. The other last thing and this one's 113 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: more tongue in cheek, but I gotta say it. Bring binoculars, binoculars. 114 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 2: I don't know can people people can bring binoculars. I 115 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: think so. If not, don't bring binoculars, but I think 116 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 2: they can. Now, this is real. This is the real, 117 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: And I know it's it's sort of a joke, but 118 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: it's I cannot stress this point enough. You absolutely positively 119 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: need to come to training camp with sunscreen. If you 120 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: don't come with sunscreen or properly apply sunscreen before coming 121 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: to training camp, you will look like a red lobster 122 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 2: by the end of the day. Every single beat writer 123 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 2: under the sun, myself, Alex, we have all out how 124 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: many times have one of us gotten toasted out at 125 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: trading camp. It happens every year. It happens even if 126 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: you apply sunscreen. Sometimes there's not a lot of shade, 127 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: there's not a lot of cover from the sun. You 128 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: are gonna get your that sun's gonna come beaten down 129 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: on you. And the one thing you'll say about camp, uh, 130 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: I love camp. It's my favorite time of the year. 131 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: We get to watch practice. As you know as two 132 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: football nerds, this is this is it. This is the 133 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 2: best part of covering the team. But it's hot, it's sticky, 134 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: it's humid. It's New England in August and it's and 135 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: it's sunny and you're gonna get burnt if you don't 136 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: wear sunscreen. People and you can being binocular. 137 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: So definitely bring binoculars because that's. 138 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 2: That's that whenever somebody starts out anew on the beat, 139 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: if they if they say that and reaches out to 140 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: me and asks me for for tips for training camp, 141 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: binoculars is my number one thing. 142 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: So I in terms of items to bring sunscreen, yes, binoculars, 143 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: yes it unless you're gonna get there really early and 144 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna end up on the bleachers. Bring like a 145 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: blanket or something to sit on the on the hill, 146 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: which I think is better. Or if it's one of 147 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: those days where it's overflow and you can get up 148 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: on the ramps. That's my favorite spots. Yeah, I love it, 149 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: So we do the shows from up on the ramps. 150 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm spoiled being up there as I miss going up there. 151 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: And then the other thing, make sure your phone's charged 152 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: because you're gonna want to look up, oh, who's this player? 153 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: And they'll give you a roster and like have your 154 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: roster ready too, but you're gonna want to look up 155 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: where'd they get this play? Where did this guy come from? 156 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: What did this guy do last year? Right? You know, 157 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of new players, and for you know, 158 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: for us, it feels a little less new. I kind 159 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: of remind myself about this one because this is what 160 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: I was doing all spring. I'm on my phone, like 161 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: because you know, we as the guys come in, we 162 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: learn about them. But then you get there and you're like, oh, wow, 163 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: they're playing this guy here. How much did he play 164 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: there last year? I want to look this up and 165 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: that up. So charge definitely, you want a charged phone, absolutely. 166 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: All right, So what what tip do we have in 167 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: terms of like actually viewing live play. 168 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: So the best advice I ever got on this when 169 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: I covered you know, we went to college and I 170 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: covered the team there and the coaches were we got 171 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: to watch every day like all season, all the practices, 172 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: and the coaches were super awesome about helping me learn 173 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: the game. And I think the best advice I got 174 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: from them is if you really want to know what's important, 175 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: because it's hard to say, like, Okay, just watch this 176 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: at practice because different days are all about different things. 177 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: Watch what the coaches are watching. So look at Bill, 178 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: look at Girod, look at Bill O'Brien, look at Steve 179 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: right where are their eyes? Yeah, and then go where 180 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: their eyes are because those are the guys that are 181 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: making the decisions. Those are the guys that are going 182 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: to build a team, Those are the guys that are 183 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: going to come up with the game plans. So if 184 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: you want to try to like get ahead of it 185 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: and really learn what they're thinking, you've got to watch 186 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: what they're watching. And now they have the luxury if 187 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: they go back and they watch film of the whole 188 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: day and they'll see everything. But what are they looking 189 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: for what are they looking for, See where they're looking, 190 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: and then look at that because odds are that's probably 191 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: pretty important. And it's all sorry to add another it. 192 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes you see, like if Bill's working one on one 193 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: with a player, you might notice, right, this is a 194 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: couple of times he's pulled this guy as side and 195 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: he talked to him, Or Bill O'Brien, same thing. He's 196 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: pulled the same receiver aside three or four times and 197 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: talked to him. Clearly there's an interest in that player 198 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: more so than just the base level. So honestly, look 199 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: at the coaches and look at what they're looking at. 200 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: That's generally where my eyes go. 201 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point. And I think one of 202 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 2: the coolest things that you hear about about coach Belichick 203 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 2: is he he's the exception to my number one thing 204 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 2: when we started this of you can't see everything. Somehow 205 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 2: Bill sees pretty much everything. Like he has that ability 206 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: to watch an eleven on eleven sequence with and he 207 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: can correct all twenty two guys. It's incredible. Yeah, I've 208 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: never seen anything like it. We are not that gifted, right, 209 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: So when I watch camp again, it kind of goes 210 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: back to what we were saying earlier. I tend to 211 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: try to focus on like one area of the field. Yeah, 212 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: And I try to narrow my scope because things, especially 213 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: when they get into team drills, it's too fast, and 214 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: I don't it's too fast to dissect it to the 215 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: point where you can call out everything that happened. So 216 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: I will look at the secondary for one play, then 217 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: I might look at the trenches for another play, and 218 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: kind of go back and forth. I also tend to 219 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: because I'm an offense guy and I like quarterbacks and receivers. 220 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: I tend to try to play quarterback a little bit too, 221 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: and like kind of look at the coverages and the 222 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: route combinations and try to figure out where the ball 223 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 2: should be going, and seeing where the quarterbacks go and 224 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 2: then trying to either reverse engineer why did they go 225 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: there or figure it out from there. 226 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: I would say on top of that, And I generally 227 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: go back and forth between, Like sometimes I have the 228 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: binoculars and I'm on one player, and then sometimes I 229 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: just put the monoculars down. I say, I just want 230 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: to watch, Like I said, I can't see everything, but 231 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: you can get the general flow will play, Like I 232 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: want to see how this whole thing plays out, route combinations, 233 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: things like that. Yeah, no, oh, what you're watching before 234 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: the play. You don't want to go what you don't 235 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: want to do. I learned this the hard way my 236 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: first year. You don't want to go into a play 237 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: saying all right, I'm just gonna wait and see what happens. 238 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna look to where the actions because like, 239 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: you can follow the ball, but if you're following the 240 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: ball to the catch point, by the time the ball's caught, 241 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: that receiver has already made his play. If you're you know, 242 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: following the ball and somebody gets a sack because there's 243 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: no you don't tackle the quarterback. But you saw the 244 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: player get sacked. You didn't see what he did, right, 245 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: You didn't see the movie put on, so and sometimes 246 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: you'll miss it sometimes, you know, I'm like, all right, 247 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: I want to watch this receiver on this play, and 248 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: I get the binoculars out and I can't even see 249 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: what's going on at the line, you know, in the box. 250 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm just watching the receiver and then to run And 251 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: I just watched a run off that sucks. It happens sometimes, 252 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: and that's why I also, you know, it's another point 253 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: I'll get too bigger. Know the drills listened for the drills, 254 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: but before each play kind of decide, I'm gonna use 255 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: the binocas, I'm gonna watch this guy, I'm gonna put 256 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: him down and I'm gonna watch all this or I'm 257 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: gonna watch Trent Brown on this player, I'm gonna watch 258 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: Taekwon Thornton on this player, I'm gonna watch Christian Gonzalez. 259 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: Decide before the play happens what you want to watch, 260 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: because if you wait until the play starts, like you said, 261 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: it's very faster. 262 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and with the in the trenches in team drills, frankly, 263 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: sometimes you're not going to see what the blocking scheme 264 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: is if you if you know how to dissect blocking schemes, 265 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 2: like if it's you know, a gap player, if it's 266 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 2: his zone player, if it's a there's a polar like that. 267 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 2: Sometimes the runner just kind of comes out of the 268 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage and you're just like, oh, oh, they 269 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: he got through right, like you know they You we 270 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: don't have the benefit of the film, like we can't 271 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: go back and watch practice film like the like the 272 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: team does. So there's that what's some of the like 273 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 2: standard drills. I think some people like don't necessarily people 274 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: know that level, so maybe yeah. 275 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: So I think so there's there's different kinds of practices, 276 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: and there's different drills within the practice. So I think 277 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: it's important to know that there's non padded practice, padded practice, 278 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: and joint practices, and. 279 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: They they're they're waited. 280 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: You put a lot more stock into what you see 281 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: to padded practice than in a non pad practice. The 282 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: joint pract are the cream of the crop. 283 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 2: That's like it, right, So those are like glorified preseason game. 284 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: If if you think an offensive lineman had a bad 285 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: day and an odd padded practice, you'd miss something like 286 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: you just you can't go off of that. 287 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 288 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: Within that, I mean there's three kind of umbrella drills 289 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: and then we'll break down from there. There's generally there's 290 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: is sometimes you might see some other numbers, but there's ones, 291 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: there's fives, and there's seven. Yeah, so ones is one 292 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: on one and that can be receiver corner, that can 293 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: be a nine ozer line. 294 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 2: Sometimes you get like the ball. 295 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: Carrier linebacker safety drill where it's like tackling in space. 296 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 2: I also like the personally they do. Sometimes they do linebackers, 297 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 2: safeties versus tight ends and running. 298 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: Backs, which I like one on ones yeah so so, 299 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: but but you'll have guys going one on one. Ye, 300 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: you'll have seven on seven or I think some people 301 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: call it shells or scale U skeleton, and that's basically 302 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: that's only a passing drill and it's the quarterback and 303 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: there's a center there, but he doesn't do anything. Yeah, 304 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: there's quarterback, center and five skill position players and then 305 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: it's seven place in the secondary. And that's more so used. 306 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: You're not evaluating off sevens. It's very rare evaluating off sevens. 307 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: That is a all right, we're gonna that's essentially the rehearsal. 308 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: All right, this is what we want the concepts to 309 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 1: look like. Let's get the timing down, let's get the 310 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: rhythm down, and then you get into eleven's which is 311 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: exactly what it sounds like, eleven on eleven live reps. 312 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: This is it when they go like sometimes it's a 313 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: long practice all a minute. Sometimes with the chat in 314 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: the tent, there were chatting or you know, whatever, What 315 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: do you think of this? 316 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: What do you think of that? 317 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: How is your day eleven's happened the game one. Everybody 318 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: stops what they're doing. You're watching eleven. So eleven padded practices, 319 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: eleven drills padded practice. That's where it's being decided. That 320 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: is as close to real football as you're gonna get. 321 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: That's the stuff you want to watch. And then i'd say, 322 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: on top of that, you'll if you listen, you'll usually hear. 323 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: So they're on a clock and there's a clock, you 324 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: can see it. There's a scoreboard, and that's how long 325 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: each drill is. And sometimes they go a little over. 326 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: But there's a big horn at the end of each 327 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: session and somebody calls out what the next drill is? 328 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: Sticks? Is it sticks? Okay? Yeah? 329 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: And he's got a massive voice. 330 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: Is it just him? Sometimes? 331 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: I think other people? 332 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, well the echobs sticks is the is the tall 333 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: black you'll see sis. 334 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: He's tall, he's got a beard, he's got an airhorn, 335 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: he's got a big booming voice, and he'll yell out 336 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: with the drill is and. 337 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: Sometimes he's the Patriots equipment manager. Yeah. 338 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes we don't know what it means. Sometimes it's like 339 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: a code word. But sometimes he'll be like he'll say 340 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: like run fits, run fits. It's like, all right, they're 341 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: practicing runs. So what I said before about if you're 342 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: gonna pick one player and watch, if you hear Stix 343 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: call out something that says run in it, probably don't 344 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: watch a receiver during that period because odds are they're 345 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: just doing runs. If you hear something about like during sevens, 346 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: don't watch the center. You don't need to watch the 347 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: center during sevens. Yeah, some and some drills are both. 348 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: Some drills are running and passing, and then you have 349 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: to decide. But if you can kind of hear what 350 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: he's saying, or you watch a couple of reps, you 351 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: might get an idea, and it can be more narrow 352 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: than run or pass. It might be outside run, it 353 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: might be screens, it might be this, it might be that. 354 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: If you get a better idea of what they're doing, 355 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: it helps you know what to look for and look 356 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: for where the action is really gonna be. 357 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a really good point. I think that 358 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: early on, for everybody, it's not it's not just don't 359 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: take it like like it's just you. For everybody, early on, 360 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: figuring out what the heck is going on is a 361 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: challenge it's a lot and if you didn't play football 362 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: growing up at like like in high school or something 363 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: like that, you're you're really looking at something that's a 364 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: completely different language in a lot of ways. You mentioned 365 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: one on ones uh, skeleton or seven on seven as 366 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: some people call it, eleven's Uh. The Patriots are a 367 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: team that does does do some nine on seven as well, 368 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: and nine on seven is typically running. Some teams call 369 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: it inside six. I think the Patriots called old school 370 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: nine on seven. 371 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: Uh. 372 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: That's usually seven blockers against nine defenders. And it's a undrill. 373 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: So there's that too. And then the Pats, as you 374 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: probably would expect, do quite a bit of open field 375 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: tackling stuff as well. But what they're not necessarily tackling 376 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: to the ground in those drills, But what they're trying 377 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: to do is they're trying to play the leverage right, 378 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,239 Speaker 2: so play to help or play to the sideline. So 379 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 2: you'll often hear coaches yell during those drills, and that 380 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: those drills get intense, like the coaches try to get 381 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 2: on guys during that portion and they'll yell things about, 382 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: you know, force them to your help for them to 383 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: you know, play your leverage things like that, and they're 384 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 2: talking about as either your help is either in the 385 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: middle of the field, like you're trying to funnel him 386 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 2: into the help defender in the middle of the field, 387 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: or you're trying to use the sideline as your help 388 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: and that might be where your leverage is at, so 389 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: you're taking that outside leverage position to push them back 390 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 2: out to the sideline. Those are some of the other 391 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: kind of nuanced drills that I think that they do. 392 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: They did some new drills in the spring of some 393 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 2: conditioning stuff. I don't know if we're going to see 394 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 2: that in camp. 395 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: I got that last day when they were doing all 396 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: that running. 397 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, that might that might just be a spring thing 398 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: because it is more of a conditioning camp than it 399 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: is a real football camp. So I think the other 400 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 2: couple of things that I wanted to mention were just 401 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 2: some of the other like tells that you can kind 402 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: of pick up on music. Music is key, yes, because 403 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 2: the Patriots they try to simulate a game environment, so 404 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 2: they used music as crowd noise essentially, and you can 405 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 2: tell that they are really ramping it up during team 406 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: drills during elevens is Alex laid out when the music starts. 407 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: Going right because they want to make it tough to communicate. 408 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: So when you hear bon Jovi or it tends to 409 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: be like eighties rock, right, I wonder who's picking it. Yeah, 410 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: it tends to be like some bon Jovi or something 411 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 2: like that. Every once in a while you can tell 412 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: the players have the ox cord and it will be 413 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: rap or something like that. 414 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: Or Luke Colms if it's David Andrews. There's that one 415 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: day the spring where it was all Luke Colms stuff. 416 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, and I would just add on top of 417 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: that goal line too, is another sign that they're really 418 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: ramping up. Like music and goal line means okay, like 419 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: I said before, you had like one seven's, eleven's and 420 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: then there's another and then padded and unpadded. The other 421 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: factor here is music, no music, and where are they 422 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: on the field? Are they doing? 423 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: Two minute? 424 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: Are they doing? You know? 425 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 2: If they bring out the downs. 426 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: Sometimes they do eleven on eleven, they just do it 427 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, right, and they just 428 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: keep resetting the ball at the same spot. But sometimes 429 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: you'll see they'll bring out down markers and they'll move 430 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: the ball based on the place. If they're moving the 431 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: ball they're at like the more layers there are, the 432 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: more stock you should put into that drill. 433 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: Basically, Yeah, and then you also have to think about 434 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: or look at you talked about looking at the coaches 435 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 2: during team drills during eleven on elevens, Belichick will often 436 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 2: call out situations. And that's another sort of patriot centric 437 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: thing that you know. I've been to a bunch of 438 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 2: joint practices and now at this point, they don't do 439 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 2: that as much as far as they can tell, at 440 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: other places. Now, in Vegas they did it because you 441 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: know who's coaching Vegas, right, But in other places they 442 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 2: don't do it quite as much. But what you'll see 443 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 2: is is you'll see a bill kind of bark out 444 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 2: some things of like thirty seconds left on the clock, 445 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: it's first and ten, you're at your twenty five, you 446 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: need a field goal to win the and they'll literally 447 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 2: play out the entire situation. They'll drive the football and 448 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: it goes either way. Sometimes Alex, they they just move 449 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: the ball to the spots just to go through the 450 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 2: motions of the drill. Right. Sometimes it's truly competitive and 451 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 2: like the defense has an opportunity to get a stop 452 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: and if they get to stop, the defense wins the drill. 453 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 2: And sometimes the offense just moves the ball anyways, just 454 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: so that they can practice the situation. So thirty seconds 455 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,239 Speaker 2: ago balls on the twenty five you need to get 456 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 2: into field goal range and they'll play it out. They'll 457 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 2: go down the field and then they'll sub off the 458 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 2: offense for the field goal team and they'll force a 459 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: field goal up and if it goes through, it goes through. 460 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: So there there's a lot of that at a Patriots practice. 461 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 2: A lot the Patriots, don't you mentioned like putting the 462 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 2: ball in the middle of the field and just do 463 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 2: an eleven on eleven to do The Patriots do that 464 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: sometimes for sure, but they don't do as much of 465 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: that as some other teams do, I don't think, because 466 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: a lot of their stuff is strictly situational. Last thing 467 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: for me, maybe if you. 468 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: Haven't got I got one more. 469 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, last thing for me. If you're gonna come to 470 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: early training camp, like first couple of days, it's not 471 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: gonna be in pads. They put that out there first 472 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: and foremost. Second thing every single year that I've covered 473 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: the team, which for camp, the full game it's been nineteen, 474 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: so that's what four years now. Yeah, this is going 475 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: on five. They have started with red zone and every single. 476 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: No, we started in eighteen. We covered a super Bowl, dude, I. 477 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 2: Know, but it wasn't a camp at eight you were, No, 478 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: it wasn't. 479 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: You were definitely had a couple practices late in the year. Okay, 480 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: they started in red zone every single time. Yeah, every time. 481 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 2: If they don't start in red zone, it will be 482 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: the first time that Paul Perillo said that they haven't 483 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: started in red zone in like twenty years. Eight. I 484 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 2: don't think that they barely did non red zone stuf. 485 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 2: Last year. Everything was in red zone. So get prepared 486 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: if you're gonna come for the very first practice on 487 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 2: July twenty sixth, to it not be padded and for 488 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 2: them to live the entire time inside the twenty. 489 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: They're gonna live in red zone. Whenever you come. 490 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: They do a lot of red ze. Yeah. 491 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: The last thing I would say, it's gonna sound very 492 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: predictable coming from me. Uh, be careful judging a playoff 493 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: single mistake. Yeah, And there's two reasons for that. 494 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: One is that everybody's susceptible to this because it does 495 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: stand out in your right, it's impossible for it not to. 496 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: So one. This is a classic belichickism. It's okay to like, 497 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna make mistakes, don't make the same mistake twice. 498 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: And that's what I watch for. Right, Tom Brady got 499 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 1: picked off in training camp. 500 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: At times it happened. 501 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: What they want to see is do you learn from 502 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: that mistake and do you prevent yourself from making it again. 503 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: You've got to remember, like And the other thing is 504 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: sometimes there's instances where they're trying things. This is an 505 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: experimental kind of atmosphere where you can fool around things. 506 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: They may say, hey, Mac, you know, try throwing this 507 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: route on this concept and see what happens. And he 508 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: might get picked and everybody goes, oh, Mac Jones threw 509 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: a pick. Well, the coach might told him to throw 510 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: the ball. Throw the baller and see what happens, right, 511 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: and things like that, or sometimes it's and this is 512 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: I don't know if the Patriots do this, but I 513 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: know there's other teams that do this at certain players ready, 514 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: Like for instance, to get Mac ready, they may go 515 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: to Trent Brown and eleven on eleven peer and say, 516 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: let you down through the snap just let you done 517 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: through and it looks like Trent Brown took a snap off, 518 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: but they wanted Mac to have to deal with that pressure. 519 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: And people go, oh, so you're excusing Trent Brown. He said, no, 520 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: it can happen to anybody. But yeah, they may tell 521 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: a corner. Hey, just you know, just fall off, fallfter out, 522 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: fafter out. We want to see things. 523 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: Like That's a big one. Is especially late in the 524 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 2: practice when they are go to like more like a 525 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 2: glarth fied walk through. Yeah, a lot of the times 526 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: they are just letting them catch it, like right, it's 527 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: not a true live drill. I think that that's a 528 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: really good point that that this is a hard thing 529 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: to decipher. 530 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not like it's really not Oh this 531 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: player messed up, he's done. It's is the same Are 532 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: you seeing the same player making the same mistake or 533 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: trailing or like, is the same player putting himself in 534 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: the same bad spot repeatedly? That's when you get into it. 535 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: One bad play sometimes and sometimes guys have bad plays. 536 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: It's not to excuse all of it. One bad play. 537 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: You can't write a guy off because one day a 538 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: chance makeup for it. And two you don't know what 539 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: the scheme was, the situation, the story I always tell 540 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: and I don't This wasn't one where the coaches told 541 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: him to do it, like that's something that happens. This 542 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: is one where I think a guy made a bad mistake. 543 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: I was a training camp. I used to go every 544 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: here with my dad. I was a training camp two 545 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: thousand and nine. He was kind of late in the summer, 546 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: and they were padded and they were doing red zone 547 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: and it was a rough day for the defense, and 548 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: you could tell they were getting frustrated. I think there 549 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: was a fight earlier in the day and it was 550 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: the ones against the scout team. And Brady drops back 551 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: and this journeyman defensive end comes flying around and clocks 552 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: him Tom Brady, and he had a run two laps. 553 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: I think it's the only time I've ever seen a 554 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: player run two laps for like one mistake. And my 555 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: dad leans over. So that guy's not making the team. 556 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: It was Rob Nikovic. 557 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: So you know it's like if a guy makes one 558 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: bad play, yeah, you can say he made a bad play, 559 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: but clearly Rob Nikovitch made the team. Clearly he overcame 560 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: that because the rest of that camp, he was excellent. 561 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: He was great that year. So that's why again, it's 562 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: not about oh, this guy made a bad play, let's 563 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 1: move him down the depth chart. It's I keep like, 564 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: I keep seeing this guy coming up on the wrong 565 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: end of a drill. It's that kind of thing. And 566 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: it may not be he may not be making these 567 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: massive mistakes, but it's like, man, you know, it feels 568 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: like four or five times today, I've seen this corner 569 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: in coverage when a ball gets completed. 570 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 2: It's that and maybe they're not. 571 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: He's not clearly getting beat, but it's like he's allowed 572 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of catches today, or you know, I just 573 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: this edge rusher has not shown up. It's been a 574 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: good day for the defense, but this edge rusher is not. 575 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: That's more what you're looking for than just oh he 576 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: made a bad play. 577 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 2: He sucks. Yeah, I think that just to wrap this up, 578 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: and then we'll get into some of the the fun 579 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: suggestions here. Yeah. The one of the harder things to 580 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: do as well is to decipher what is truly live 581 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: and what is is not are what or what's like 582 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 2: you know, sort of the line of lines that you 583 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 2: were saying, like they're telling them to do this right right, 584 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: So a lot of the time we get you know, 585 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: a perfect example just happened at the end of the spring. 586 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: They're doing a job what i'd call jog through, which 587 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 2: is a walk through, but they're at least kind of 588 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: trying to put some pace to it. They're jogging around 589 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: and Mac Jones just kind of lazily flicked the ball 590 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: out into the flat because it's not a live drill, 591 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: it's not meant to be a live drill. And Kyle 592 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: Duggar jumped in front of the pass and returned it 593 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: for a pick six. Yeah, and Mac kind of got 594 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 2: on him about it, and after the practice he kind 595 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: of mentioned it in his press conference as well. And 596 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 2: I'll give credit to the beat. Most of the guys 597 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: said Mac threw a pick six at the end of 598 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 2: practice to Kyle Duggar, but it looked like it was 599 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: it wasn't a live drill, Like, don't take it seriously. 600 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 2: So when those things happen, you got to be able 601 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 2: to try to keep in mind or decipher that that 602 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: wasn't actually live. Kyle dugger shouldn't have picked that off. 603 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 2: It wasn't the point of the drill, and that was 604 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 2: just that wasn't something to hold against Mac like you 605 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 2: herew that in. Right. There's also instances where they might 606 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: be practicing hail mary's, and of course the hail mary 607 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 2: might get picked off or heile mary might go for 608 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 2: a touchdown or whatever. It might be a horrible decision 609 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: that he's throwing at hell Mary into three defenders, right, 610 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 2: But that was the drill. It wasn't like Mac just 611 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: chucked it up. It just that they were running a 612 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 2: hell Mary. 613 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: There's even time I know, So I don't know if 614 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: the Patriots have done this. I know I went to 615 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: a a Bills training camp when I was up in 616 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: New York. This was years ago, so like pre Josh 617 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: Allen and all that, and there was one where like 618 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: three plays and I forget who the quarterback was that 619 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: it was like their third string quarterback, like the guy 620 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: like never made it in the league. But like three 621 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: plays in a row, the guy throws a pick and 622 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: we're sitting there like what's going on? 623 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 2: It's terrible. 624 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: Nobody was close. And then we found out because some 625 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: day I knew like intern for the team whatever, it 626 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: was a interception return drill. Oh, so is everybody. I 627 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: remember everybody walked in. I remember seeing Bill's writers being like, 628 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: this was one of the worst periods I've ever seen. 629 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: He couldn't stop but throwing interception and I don't know 630 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: if the Patriots do that not. At the point is 631 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: like you never really know. So again, it's kind of 632 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: that consistency thing. Are you seeing it throughout the day? 633 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: If you go multiple days, you continuing to see it, 634 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,239 Speaker 1: that's more what you're looking for. 635 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 2: Well, that was a lot of information, but hopefully it 636 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: was helpful, and I think the biggest the biggest thing 637 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 2: that we could suggest, other than to bring sunscreen, that's 638 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: the biggest thing I could suggest. But other than that, 639 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 2: the biggest thing that we could suggest is have a 640 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: game plan, just like they do right, come into practice 641 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 2: or go into every single drill with a plan of 642 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: this is what I'm watching, this is what I'm focusing on, 643 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: and stop trying to see the forest because you're not 644 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 2: going to be able to so just focus on the trees, right, 645 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 2: And I think that's that's the hardest part. And we're 646 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 2: like I said, you know, we have the benefit of 647 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 2: being able to split up duties with our colleagues and 648 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: also going every single day. So it's different for us 649 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: in that respect than it is for somebody coming out 650 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 2: to camp once. All right, a couple of more fun 651 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: things here. Yeah, what what's like your your favorite activity 652 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: to do while you're down here other than going into practice. Like, 653 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: if I had to make a suggestion just to I 654 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: would say, if you have the time, if you're looking 655 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: for to kind of make a day out of it, 656 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: the Pats Hall of Fame. 657 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, go to the hall. Go to the hall, and 658 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people just like I want to walk around. 659 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: I don't want to watch the movie. Watch the movie. 660 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: Watch them there's a movie before you go in. 661 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: It's the best part. I love the movie. 662 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: I get at one point in my life I could 663 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: like quote a word for it. Have you been fifteen minutes? 664 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: Have you been to Cooperstown? I have? 665 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: Okay, So they have a little movie there as well. 666 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: It's you I know. But I'm not saying it's better. 667 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, when you go to a Hall 668 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: of fame, you go to you watch the movie. 669 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: It's autumn in New England. 670 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: That's how it's That's how it starts. 671 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: If that's not enough to sell, if that doesn't give 672 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: you chill, And there's like do you want to narrate it? 673 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 2: Or I probably could. I used to be able to 674 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 2: prose good. 675 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: There's like like high shot and they're panning over like 676 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: Cranberry bogs, and you see the trees are like. 677 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: Orange and brown? 678 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: Do you know we in New England? So good every time. 679 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: The first time that I learned about the Cranberry bogs 680 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: were when I started working here. I had no idea 681 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 2: those even exist. 682 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean I grew up down the ship like I 683 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: grew up, you know in Sharon, Cranberry bogs in Sharon, 684 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: ocean sprays right behind. 685 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 2: You can go watch you can go look at the 686 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: craw Brady box up at Patriot Place in the in 687 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 2: the back. That's true, they're behind. 688 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to call it a hike because it's 689 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: a fun block. It's a nice walk. It's a little 690 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 1: bit of a walk probably in the summer is probably tough. 691 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: I normally do that like in the fun. 692 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: All right, most important lunch recommendations. Okay, this is important. 693 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 2: This is really what we're talking about here. 694 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: So I at Patriots Place. Yeah, I really like Anchildo's 695 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: it's a good suggestion, which it used to be a 696 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: mos if you're familiar with it, that's like obviously Burrito 697 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: the Middle five Guys is and uh, what is that still? 698 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: I want to say, bunch of places around. Yeah, Anchelito's 699 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: is good. Bartloui is always good. If you're like staying 700 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: late you want to do dinner. Saga is a LATCHI 701 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: play sushi. That spot's really good. But if you just 702 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: want to grab like a quick lunch on your way in, 703 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: the spot is. 704 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: Good food Store. We gotta go to Good Food I. 705 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: Have been going there since I was in high school. 706 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: It's a US, so it's I used to go there 707 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: when I was in high school and I see like 708 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: my grease there. Yeah, and now I go there. 709 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: But that's you can't wrong. Don't undersell how popular you 710 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: are at good food Store. I walk in with Alex 711 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: a good food store and you would think the freaking 712 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: mayor of Shamnon. 713 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: You are going to see odds are if you go 714 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: to good food storre you're gonna be either see somebody 715 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: went to high school with or somebody went to high 716 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: school with with parents. 717 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, every time somebody knows Alex and we walk into 718 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: Good Food Store full disclosure. We try to go every 719 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: Friday during the season to flow. Yeah, it's a mandate, 720 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: we know. And we go to Good Food Store for 721 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: lunch in between practice and a media availability in the afternoon. 722 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: You have a little bit of a gap there most 723 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: of the time, a couple of hours and we go 724 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: to Good Food Store and we both get the same 725 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 2: thing every single time, which I think is al we. 726 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: Don't we we don't change our or we get different things, 727 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: but like each. 728 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 2: Week, Yeah, so I typically go with the honey turkey sandwich. Yeah, 729 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: which Morella, who knows my turkey sandwich order, is not 730 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: going to be surprised at all by this. It's smoked honey, turkey, honey, mustard, lettuce. 731 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: You know you. I'm not a big like veggies guy. 732 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: But like, you can get the works on it. You 733 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: can get cheese on it if you want. And but 734 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: but Alex gets the samwich. Yeah. 735 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,719 Speaker 1: Well no, So there's a couple when you go in 736 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: on the wall, they have like all the big posters 737 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: of all their sandwiches. 738 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: Alex Bartha is gonna be on there some. 739 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: No, it's called the Blackjack. I hope they don't change it. 740 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: It's called the blackjack. That's what I get. But there's 741 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: like a little like all the sandwiches that you I 742 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: had the other sandwiches there at other times you cannot 743 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: go wrong. 744 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 2: It's it's really freaking good. It's really good. We had 745 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: Matt Dolla from ninety eight five. He came with us 746 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 2: last year for the first time, and even he had to. 747 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: Everybody who goes rolls their eyes because they're like, oh, 748 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: you're definitely over hyping it, and then they get the 749 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: sad one with you, like it's no way it's this good, 750 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: and then you win, You're like, that's good. 751 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 2: There's also jersey mikes. There's also jersey mikes. That's that's 752 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 2: the uh, I can't do jersey mikes like that. I 753 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: gotta go No. I know that's your spot wall pull 754 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: right at the end of root one. But if you're 755 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 2: going in Patriot Place, Angelito is a game sensitive stomach, 756 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: like I do, they'll be prepared for afterwards. 757 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: But so I would say, of all the like, there's 758 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: some like obviously good like sit down places, right, but 759 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: if you just want to like go in grab food, 760 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: keep your day going, like like grabbing gold places, I 761 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: don't think you beat the Toledo's up there. It's it's 762 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: it's really good. 763 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 2: It might be the kid in me, but Red Robin 764 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: still does it for me a little bit. I mean, 765 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: I like that. That's different. 766 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: It's like you're sitting down or like committing Toledo's. It's 767 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: a burrito place. You get your bawl or your burrito. 768 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 2: It's just like a Chipotle, but it's nicer than better. Yeah. 769 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 2: But if I'm sitting down at Patriot Place, I'm still 770 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 2: going to the Red Robin. I am. I like Barlouis. 771 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: I like, I can't remember what it's called that. It 772 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: used to be CBSC and they've changed the game so 773 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: many times. Sport Club now CBS Sports Club, whatever it is. Yeah, 774 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: that place is pretty good. 775 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: That I think. If I if I had to watch 776 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 2: a game at Patriot Place, not that we have to 777 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: do that. 778 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: Do you remember our first year we covered a gate, 779 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: covered a game from there with drags. It was that 780 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: Lions game. 781 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, they got killed. 782 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: They got killed by bad game. Bentley got hurt. 783 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 2: That was awful. Yeah, but that that's Uh. Those are 784 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 2: the most important recommendations we give. And good food store 785 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 2: if you're just looking for like a sandwich. You know, 786 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 2: in and out. You're not looking to really spend a 787 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 2: ton of time. It's worth the drive down the street. 788 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 2: It's not it's not in Patriot Place, but it's like 789 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 2: ten minutes away. Yeah, it's It's it's a like a 790 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 2: local spot. So you're not going to I love Jersey Mice, 791 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 2: but you're not going to Jersey Mice. You're not going 792 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 2: to Panera like it's it's one of those like authentic 793 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 2: to the to the area. So TVs Sports Scenes is 794 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 2: no longer there. It's called the Harp. Now that's right. 795 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 2: Well I love the Heart by the Garden, So there 796 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 2: you go. Are they expecting I'm not gonna we work 797 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 2: with Patriot Place. I'm not taking shots at the people 798 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 2: Patriot Place. But are they expecting people to like go 799 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 2: out like they do in Boston at the Harp placed. 800 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 2: I'll go to the Harp before Celtics game just for dinner. 801 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah oh really, Yeah, I didn't know it was like 802 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 2: a place like that. 803 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah no, they got good food. I assume it's 804 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: the same. I'm gonna assume it's same. Men, you were 805 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: close to it, So yeah, the Harp down by the 806 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: Garden is really good food. People don't know that, but 807 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: they do so. I again, if the food is anything 808 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: like that, that's definitely a spot you can go. 809 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 2: Okay, well that they just opened that. I'm still going 810 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 2: to Red Robin, all right, I'm pretty sure the Red 811 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 2: Robin still does the unlimited fries if you sit down, 812 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 2: get as many fries as you want. 813 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: I remember the Onion Ring Tower. 814 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: So there's like seventeen different like huge burgers that you get. 815 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 2: I mean that like you're in for it. You know 816 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 2: you're gonna you're gonna. 817 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: See that you have if you're doing Red Robin or 818 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: or the Harp or like one of these sit down 819 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: place or even Angelitos because it's heavy. It's a burrito 820 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: that's after practice. Do not do that before practice. Well, 821 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: you are gonna hate yourself. I'll give you. 822 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 2: Want one more spot. Yeah, it's good. So it's it's 823 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 2: probably about the same drive as good food stores. 824 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: Not at Patch place, but if you go to Ward's 825 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: Berry Farm and Sharon, oh we we've been there before. Yeah. Yeah, 826 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: they also have really good sandwiches. You can sit outside. 827 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: Smoothies are amazing. Uh, that's another good spot around here. 828 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 2: You might also see many deuce deuces works at words. 829 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 2: He does. I gotta go to it. I've been meaning 830 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 2: to go there. Now I really gotta go, he does. 831 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 2: And is is your ice cream spot too far away? 832 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 2: Like that? Oh Cridge Crescent Ridge? 833 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's if you really want to make a 834 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 1: day of it, like at the end of the day, 835 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: it's on the other side. It's like, so you got 836 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: to drive. I guess it's not that far because you 837 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 1: come up Route one. You basically got to drive through Sharon. 838 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: You gotta drive all the way across Sharon. But yes, 839 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: there's an ice cream place called the Crescent Ridge. It 840 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: was I think it was Time or CNN did this 841 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: big thing a couple of years ago. That was the 842 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: one hundred best ice cream place in America and Crescent 843 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 1: Ridge came in second. And I've been to the place 844 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: that came in first, and I didn't think it was 845 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 1: very good. Crescent Ridge is the best ice cream you'll 846 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: ever have. If you really want to wrap up your 847 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: day in style, you go to Cridge. 848 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 2: What can you tell he's from Sharon or can you 849 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 2: tell you's from Sharon? You know I'm from around here. 850 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 2: I know where to go. What's the what's so bad 851 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 2: about It's good dhen Alex and I first started working together. 852 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 2: He gave me, you know, I had the whole lowdown. 853 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 2: I knew where to go to eat for lunch, it's important, 854 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 2: and all those types of things. So there we have it. 855 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 2: That's that's our Patriots training camp day. If we had 856 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 2: to sum it up, you got get to practice a 857 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 2: little bit early. You don't have to be there an 858 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 2: hour early. Well, I guess with the fans that you 859 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 2: if you want a good spot. 860 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: If you're going on the weekend, do you want to 861 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: get there pretty early. If you're coming during the week 862 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: especially like after the first day, it's it's not too bad. 863 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: But if you're coming on the weekend, either show up 864 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: really early or if you show up like right on 865 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: time and you're part of that later group, you might 866 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: get in the overflow, which is up on the rams, right. 867 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 2: So come a little bit early. I would say, it 868 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 2: doesn't have to be two hours. You don't have to 869 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 2: camp out, but come a little bit early. The second 870 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 2: thing that I would say, you know, all the things 871 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 2: that we said about, you know, try to focus in 872 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,280 Speaker 2: on little things that practice. Try to see the trees, 873 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 2: not the forest. This isn't you know, you're not gonna 874 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 2: be able to see everything, and most importantly, post practice 875 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 2: launch it at Good Food Store. We're giving Good Food 876 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 2: Store the top spot. And I'm sorry Jersey Mikes, please 877 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 2: don't take it personally. I still love you, but we're 878 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 2: giving Good Food Store the top spot and that does 879 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,439 Speaker 2: it for our training camp. FAQ. This was fun. I'm glad. 880 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 2: I'm glad we did this. This was fun, a little 881 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 2: bit different, a little bit outside the box. But Alex 882 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,919 Speaker 2: and I will be back next week on Thursday, same time, 883 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 2: same place to break down training camp. Well maybe same time. 884 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: We don't know same time because we don't know what 885 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: the practice schedule is going to be true, but it'll 886 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,240 Speaker 1: be at some point on Thursday afternoon. 887 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 2: To break down training camp. Can you believe it? We 888 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 2: made it. We made it, folks, We made it through 889 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 2: the NFL offseason once again. Football will be back. I'm excited, 890 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 2: Alex is excited. We're living it up and we'll be 891 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 2: back next Thursday to break down all of the happenings 892 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,479 Speaker 2: out at Patriots training camp and hopefully we'll see you there.