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Speaker 2: Final Hour on this Thursday. More of your phone calls.

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Speaker 2: Tyler will take your phone calls. Sunday night, everything on

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Speaker 2: the line. Matthew Stafford leads the Rams against Caleb and

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Speaker 2: the Bears Sunday six Eastern on NBC and Peacock. By

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Speaker 2: the way, we have a Chicago Bears T shirt for

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Speaker 2: sale up on the website. Very proud of that T

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Speaker 2: shirt we do. It's a good one. Yeah, So, Paul,

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Speaker 2: could you explain why we have a T shirt of

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Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears up on the website.

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Speaker 3: You may have heard of a team called the eighty

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Speaker 3: five Bears day and I don't know if I've mentioned

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Speaker 3: him on this show, particularly they won the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 3: the only Super Bowl actually remember on that date January

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Speaker 3: twenty sixth, nineteen eighty six.

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Speaker 4: Okay, but you can get a T shirt.

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Speaker 3: Eighty five Bears eighty six Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, while the Bears are still alive in the postseason.

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Speaker 3: And again if they win the Super Bowl this year,

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Speaker 3: that shirt will lose its luster. You'd better buy now.

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Speaker 2: That would be the only reason why I'd be rooting

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Speaker 2: for the Bears. So we don't talk about the eighty

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Speaker 2: five Bears anymore.

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Speaker 3: I think they're on their fifth documentary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Poll question for the final hour, and then we'll

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Speaker 2: bring in Boomer or sciencin.

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Speaker 5: Would you rather talk about the eighty five Bears or

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Speaker 5: the twenty twenty five Bears.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather talk about the twenty twenty five Bears. Could

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Speaker 2: be a disaster?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Is John Harbaugh in a better football situation now than

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Speaker 5: he was a month ago? We're at about sixty five percent.

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Speaker 2: Say no. Boomer Sison co host WFA NS Boomer and

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Speaker 2: Goo and of course a quarterback for fourteen years. Good

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Speaker 2: to talk to you, Boomer. Did the Giants get it right?

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Speaker 6: Good to see you, Dano, And sorry about my background.

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Speaker 6: We're under construction here at WFAN, so you're gonna have

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Speaker 6: to deal with it. It's not quite as pretty as

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Speaker 6: your your studio there that has a ton of stuff

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Speaker 6: in it, by the way, you feel like a hoarder. Yes,

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Speaker 6: I want everything you got in there.

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Speaker 2: Believe you know what. I was called a elector and

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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden they came up with this

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Speaker 2: word hoarder, yes, and I'm guilty of that, but I

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Speaker 2: take it as a compliment. Thank you.

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Speaker 6: By the way, A happy Harball day here in New York.

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Speaker 6: For sure. The Giants got this one right. And no,

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Speaker 6: I don't want to talk about the nineteen eighty five

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Speaker 6: Bears because they kicked my ass many times. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: they need they needed somebody here Dan, They needed credibility,

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Speaker 6: they needed instant credibility. They do have a quarterback, as

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Speaker 6: we all know, that we think is going to be

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Speaker 6: really good. I think Todd Monkin is going to be

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Speaker 6: the perfect offensive coordinator for him. When you think about

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Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson's two previous years twenty four or actually twenty yeah,

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Speaker 6: twenty four and twenty three, he was awesome and Todd

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Speaker 6: Monkin was the offensive play caller. They had the number

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Speaker 6: one offense in the league one of those years, at

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Speaker 6: the fourth offense in the league another one of those years,

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Speaker 6: he won one of his MVPs. And that's exactly what

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Speaker 6: the Giants and Jackson Dart need here. So this is

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Speaker 6: going to bring stability. I think it's going to make

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Speaker 6: John Mara very happy, who's obviously ill deal with cancer.

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Speaker 6: I thought Chris Mahra's initial fora down to Baltimore last

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Speaker 6: week to have lunch with John Merraw. I mean, John

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Speaker 6: Harbaugh really set the tone for these negotiations. And I

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Speaker 6: think a Harbaugh to the Giants, to me anyway and

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Speaker 6: the NFL world makes a total, total sense.

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Speaker 2: But you go from Baltimore, where you have to win,

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Speaker 2: you got a Super Bowl roster, to now the Giants.

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Speaker 2: How much time do they give him to get this

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Speaker 2: team back to respectability?

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Speaker 6: I mean, Kenny Paula, Ben Johnson, Kenny paul A, Mike Rabel.

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Speaker 6: You know, these new guys went into places where they

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Speaker 6: had second year quarterbacks who were can't miss players, and

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Speaker 6: look at what those two coaches did with their quarterbacks

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Speaker 6: and what they did in free agency. Everybody forgets that

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Speaker 6: the Patriots spent the most money in free agency last offseason,

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Speaker 6: mainly on defense, and then the Bears spent mainly on

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Speaker 6: the interior offensive line to protect Caleb Williams. And how

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Speaker 6: has that worked out? So I think expectations would be

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Speaker 6: high here. I certainly think with elite neighbors with Andrew

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Speaker 6: the offense is pretty solid. I think they'll probably add

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Speaker 6: a wide receiver in the draft, but their defense is

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Speaker 6: really what needs the most work, and it'll be interesting

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Speaker 6: to see who he hires as his defensive coordinator, because

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Speaker 6: I haven't heard that yet.

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Speaker 2: What would you can you teach Jackson Dart to play differently?

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Speaker 6: No, you know, you always to his learn I call

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Speaker 6: it youthful inexperience is what it is. He's trying to

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Speaker 6: prove to his teammates that he belongs on the field.

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Speaker 6: I think he gets caught up in the emotion of

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Speaker 6: the game, wants to get the fans, especially at home,

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Speaker 6: into the game. He wants to lead by example. He

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Speaker 6: does remind me a little bit of Josh Allen the

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Speaker 6: way he plays and at times when he runs, he's

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Speaker 6: a little bit reckless. And Josh has learned and nobody

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Speaker 6: does it better than Josh for that matter. But I

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Speaker 6: remember when he was a rookie and even to a

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Speaker 6: second year they were saying the same things about him

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Speaker 6: Dan that they're saying about Jackson Dart and running with

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Speaker 6: the football and protecting himself. But blieve me, he will

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Speaker 6: learn quickly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, Josh wasn't in the blue tent

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Speaker 2: like Jackson Jackson darted. I mean, that's a co op

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Speaker 2: for him, Like, you know, we we can't have that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, slide, it's okay.

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Speaker 6: Well I know, and you know he actually did learn

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Speaker 6: when he came back from the late the latest injury,

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Speaker 6: you know, towards the end of the year against the

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Speaker 6: Raiders and at home, he learned how to play the

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Speaker 6: position better. I mean, look, he's a football player. That's

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Speaker 6: what I love about him more than anything else. You know,

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Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes, he's a football player. Drake May, He's a

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Speaker 6: football player.

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Speaker 4: C J.

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Speaker 6: Stroud. I mean, these guys all loved getting mixed up

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Speaker 6: into the action and taking some hits. Maybe I was

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Speaker 6: not one of those types of guys. I always try

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Speaker 6: to stay away from it as much as I could,

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Speaker 6: and maybe that's why I lasted so long. But again,

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Speaker 6: like I don't want to take the inner football player

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Speaker 2: Why did the Jets always get it wrong?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, it always starts at ownership. That's where

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Speaker 6: it always starts. And you know they've they've gone this

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Speaker 6: when they first acquired Aaron Rodgers. You know, when Aaron

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Speaker 6: I wish that I could have been in that uniform

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Speaker 6: like he was that night, and what it really brought

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Speaker 6: to all of us as football fans here in New York.

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Speaker 6: And then what three or four plays in he blows

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Speaker 6: out his achilles. I mean, that was the moment where

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Speaker 6: the Jets had it right, and he came back and

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Speaker 6: had a pretty good second year, by the way, but

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Speaker 6: then Woody Johnson got involved and they fired Rob solid

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Speaker 6: and then all hell breaks loose. So now Darren Mugie's

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Speaker 6: got to pick up the pieces. I would say that

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Speaker 6: Darren's done a great job here in terms of acquiring

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Speaker 6: assets for a team that desperately needs them. But until

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Speaker 6: they find a quarterback, they're going to be stuck in

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Speaker 6: neutral too, just like every other team that's in their

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Speaker 6: same situation.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Boomer as sisin, co host of w Fans,

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Speaker 2: Boomer to you, what do you do with that second

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Speaker 2: pick in the draft now that Dante Moore is going

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Speaker 2: back to Oregon.

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Speaker 6: I think the Jets lucked out, and I think Dante

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Speaker 6: Moore is making a fifty million dollar bet. I that

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Speaker 6: would be hard for me to do that, but I

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Speaker 6: had advised him on our show here in New York,

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Speaker 6: please stay in school. You need more playing time. And

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Speaker 6: I think he made the right decision. And I'm sure

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Speaker 6: he's going to get a nice paycheck from Oregon, but

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Speaker 6: he's making a fifty million dollar bet on himself, which

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Speaker 6: is really quite amazing. So for the Jets, the second

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Speaker 6: top defensive players from Ohio State, maybe an edge rusher.

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Speaker 6: It also could be another wide receiver to go along

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Speaker 6: with Garrett Wilson, I mean, or trade out of it

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Speaker 6: and even add more assets, which would probably be the

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Speaker 6: smart thing to do, because you know, the draft is

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Speaker 6: a is a you know, lottery picks, and you want

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Speaker 6: that's one thing that Jets have going for them going

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Speaker 6: into this year's draft.

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Speaker 2: What about Malik Willis or Mac Jones, you know, do.

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Speaker 6: They want to come here? That's the thing, you know,

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's if Mac Jones want to come play

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Speaker 6: his contract with San Francisco, Malik will be an unrestricted

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Speaker 6: free agent. I would hope that somehow Green Bay would

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Speaker 6: I'd want to go be a starter somewhere, or at least

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Speaker 6: That's not going to be the case, but I could

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Speaker 6: see the Jets trying to maybe use him as some

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Speaker 6: sort of, I don't know, gap year quarterback if you want,

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Speaker 6: if you want to say that. But then again, remember

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Speaker 6: next year's quarterback class could include Arch Manning and it's

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Speaker 6: probable and it will include Dante Moore and a few

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Speaker 6: other guys. So maybe they'll be in a better situation

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Speaker 6: to draft one of those guys next year, meaning that

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Speaker 6: I don't think you want to go out there and

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Speaker 6: try to win six or seven games. I mean, really, realistically,

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Speaker 6: you look at it, you want one of those young

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Speaker 6: Darter is doing here for the Giants. You're going to

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Speaker 6: have to have another bad year next year to be

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Speaker 6: at the top of that draft. To be able to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Boomer, they're trying to win six or seven

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Speaker 2: games and they can't do it. So it's not like.

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Speaker 6: I said. I was there for three years. I had

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Speaker 6: three different head coaches. You know, it was crazy. And

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Speaker 6: I always scream about one thing, Dan in professional football,

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Speaker 6: professional sports for that matter, is stability. You want to

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Speaker 6: know who's running the organization, who the GM is, who

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Speaker 6: the coach is. And if you keep changing, like Daniel

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Speaker 6: Jones found out as the quarterback of the New York Giants,

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Speaker 6: you know you're going to take two steps forward, three

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Speaker 6: steps back, two steps forward, three steps back. So the

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Speaker 6: one good thing about the Harball situation here for the Giants,

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Speaker 6: I think that this solidifies Jackson Dart's next ten years.

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Speaker 6: If everything works out right with Todd Munkin as his

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Speaker 6: be a ten year run. That should be great for

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Speaker 6: him as a quarterback and he should be really successful.

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Speaker 6: As for the Jets, I mean, who is that guy?

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Speaker 6: Where's that guy coming from? If it is Malik Willis,

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Speaker 2: Give me the surprise this weekend in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: If I threw out the eighty five Bears or the

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Speaker 6: Yeah it is, and you know what, and you got

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Speaker 6: You got to be totally focused, and you got to

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Speaker 2: What were Boomer's numbers against the Bears?

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Speaker 3: Pulley oh Man, Dan, September twenty eight, nineteen eighty six. Boomer,

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Speaker 3: I have the Bear Bears forty four to seven over

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Speaker 6: That sound crrect, that's right, that's right. And here's the

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Speaker 6: funny thing about that game. It was early in the season,

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Speaker 2: So what are the numbers? By the way, Boomer did

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Speaker 6: That's all right, listen, I've been around long enough. Take

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Speaker 3: Okay, the Boomer stats in that game fourteen for thirty

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Speaker 3: to twelve, one TD, four picks and three seconds. However, Boomer,

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Speaker 3: you did lead the team in rushing to carries fourteen yards.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 6: I was running for my life. Yes, that was the

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Speaker 6: assistant coaches, he came up with so many different plays

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Speaker 2: To talk to you, uh tell, Geo, we said hello,

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Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. All righty Dan, anytime see Bud

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Speaker 2: Boomer Sison, co host of WFAN radio show Boomer and

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Speaker 2: Geo spent fourteen years. I can't imagine facing the Bears,

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Speaker 2: facing the Giants back then. Oh man, you know the

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a weakness here. It's like

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Early results on the poll question, would you rather be

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Speaker 2: If I'm mac Jones, I I'd probably stay for another

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Speaker 2: you know I can Mac or brock Purty probably won't

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Speaker 4: Yes, but I don't.

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Speaker 6: Man, oh man, it's.

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Speaker 3: A real question.

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Speaker 2: But they're gonna pay him well for one more year there.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's say he stays. Once he make six million,

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Speaker 3: Mac Jones will make four million even next year as

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Speaker 2: He should go to Oregon, and then he can go

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Speaker 2: to Oregon, go back to Alabama. Yeah, but just watching

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Speaker 2: was that scary dexter manly. I remember asking him what

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Speaker 4: So basically, whoever won the NFC basically just won the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but god, you had the Niners and you had

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Speaker 4: When the Bears came into RFK for that playoff game, damn.

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Speaker 2: And watching the Giants got to see that defense up

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Speaker 2: In fact, for a couple of years, yes, Tod, And

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Speaker 2: therefore we saw the Bills lose four straight Super Bowls

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Tom.

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Speaker 2: Away, Paul, you ran around the neighborhood naked when the

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Speaker 2: Cubs won the World Series?

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Speaker 4: Correct?

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Speaker 2: What will you do if the Bears win the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 3: The same or more?

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Speaker 2: I guess more?

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Speaker 4: You got it.

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Speaker 3: I can't do what you did before, but I would

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Speaker 3: do the same for sure.

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Speaker 2: So you gotta run around a bigger block.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe longer, Okay, longer stretch?

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Speaker 4: Yes, Seaton?

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Speaker 2: Why why you run naked?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: I was asked, asked, asked.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you said ass I thought as you were asked.

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Speaker 1: You were asked.

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Speaker 3: In all seriously, when the Cubs won the everyone was asleep,

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Speaker 3: ran out of the house naked, yelled not very sleepy town.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right?

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Speaker 2: Were now let people know that you could be doing

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Speaker 2: it around here. Yeah, yes, Todd, tough.

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Speaker 4: Transition for you. Right now, to the guest and waiter

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Speaker 4: talking about PAULI running around.

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Speaker 2: Naked, we bring in Robert Griffin Junior, the third He

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Speaker 2: ran around naked when Baylor was winning football games, right

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Speaker 2: or Washington was winning football games or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you back, the Fox football analyst. I

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Speaker 2: was just talking to Boomer A. Siason about going to

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Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage and you look over and you go,

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Speaker 2: there's the eighty five Bears. Yep, eighty six Giants. Was

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Speaker 2: oh my god.

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Speaker 4: There wasn't Dan. But that's that's just the quarterback in me. Wow.

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Speaker 4: They don't want to be in the fearless guy that

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Speaker 4: You know, I look across the line of scrimmage and

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Speaker 4: admiring so to play against them, to play against DeMarcus Where,

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Speaker 4: You know. I got ed Reid, ed Reid tried to

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Speaker 4: it looked at coach and he was like, hey be careful.

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Speaker 4: Those kind of moments for me that were that were

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Speaker 2: All right, Uh, how did the Giants do?

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Speaker 4: Oh? I mean they's a plus plus plus higher with

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Speaker 4: got the receiver in the league Neighbors. They got the

439
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Speaker 4: young pass rushers, you know, I have Dual Carter, especially

440
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Speaker 4: from last year's draft, and they just need direction and

441
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Speaker 4: that's what John Harball provides. So I think I don't

442
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Speaker 4: know what the other hires are going to be during

443
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Speaker 4: the cycle, but this is the best higher and the

444
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Speaker 4: Giants knocked it out the park.

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Speaker 2: Is Pittsburgh a good chum.

446
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Speaker 4: Ooh? Prestige wise one hundred percent. It's a great job.

447
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 4: You know, when you have a team that's only going

448
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Speaker 4: to have their fourth head coach.

449
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Speaker 2: But let me take away that. It's let me just

450
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Speaker 2: give you the roster. Let's just look at rosters. Is

451
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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh a good situation?

452
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Speaker 4: Oh, that is so tough the answer. Outside of the

453
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Speaker 4: organizational prestige and the fact that you're going to get

454
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Speaker 4: an owner that's going to be dedicated to you, it's

455
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Speaker 4: not a great roster because it's aging and you don't

456
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Speaker 4: have a quarterback. So I know that's what you're getting

457
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Speaker 4: at Dan. It's like, I think Rogers is done. If

458
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Speaker 4: Tomlin stayed, I could see Rogers coming back for another year.

459
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Speaker 4: But I don't think Aaron Rodgers wants to deal with

460
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Speaker 4: the first time head coach coming back in there. And now,

461
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Speaker 4: if you're a coach, it's attractive if you if you're saying, Okay,

462
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna have t J. Watt like this Cam Hayward

463
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Speaker 4: coming back, I don't know. He's been fighting with the

464
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Speaker 4: organization the past couple off seasons for money and rightfully so,

465
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Speaker 4: he's he's one of the best players in the league,

466
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Speaker 4: although he's aging. So if you come in and you

467
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Speaker 4: think that one of these young quarterbacks in the draft

468
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Speaker 4: is the guy that's gonna that you can build around,

469
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Speaker 4: then I think it's an attractive job. If not, it's

470
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Speaker 4: really hard to go to a place that has a

471
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Speaker 4: bunch of old players and no quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Would you rather coach Atlanta or Pittsburgh. I'd rather coach Atlanta.

473
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Speaker 4: And it's not because of you know again, I think

474
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Speaker 4: you have to put a lot of value in the organization.

475
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Speaker 4: I think what they do there and how they run

476
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Speaker 4: their ship is a great thing for Pittsburgh. But if

477
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Speaker 4: I'm looking at it for division and talent, I'm going

478
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Speaker 4: to Atlanta. You know, I got v Jon Robinson arguably

479
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Speaker 4: the best runner back in the league this past year.

480
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Speaker 4: You know, I've got London at receiver. I've got you know,

481
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Speaker 4: potentially Kyle Pitts at tight end, like I've got a

482
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Speaker 4: young QB and Michael Pennock junior if you still believe

483
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Speaker 4: in him, like, I can go in there and make

484
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Speaker 4: that work and when pretty immediately because that division is

485
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Speaker 4: so I mean, it's tough to say, but it's a

486
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Speaker 4: weak division. Yeah, when your division winner has a losing

487
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Speaker 4: record every single year, like coaches should be falling over

488
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Speaker 4: themselves to go to Atlanta right now, What.

489
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Speaker 2: Do you think Mike Tomlin does next, I think he'll

490
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Speaker 2: be on TV.

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Speaker 4: He resigned step down, so you know, it's not like

492
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Speaker 4: he retired, so Pittsburgh still owns his right. So if

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Speaker 4: he goes and coaches somewhere else that they're gonna have

494
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Speaker 4: to trade him. And if you're looking at a place

495
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Speaker 4: like Atlanta, which he clearly fits in to the fabric

496
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Speaker 4: of what Atlanta is, you know, the Black Mecca, and

497
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Speaker 4: it's like yeah, but then you're gonna probably have to

498
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Speaker 4: trade one of those young assets or trade some picks

499
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Speaker 4: to get him to go there. So I think he

500
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Speaker 4: goes to TV. I think he's earned it. I think

501
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 4: every time I've heard him talk, he teaches you something,

502
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Speaker 4: and I think that's what TV networks they cove it. Personality,

503
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Speaker 4: the ability to still retail. I think he's the total

504
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Speaker 4: package when it comes to that. So I definitely see

505
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Speaker 4: him being in a studio show, you know, for one

506
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Speaker 4: of the major networks.

507
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Speaker 2: So I can RG three foks Football Analyst and his

508
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: podcast out of Pocket with RG three give me the

509
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Speaker 2: surprise this weekend.

510
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Speaker 4: Ooh, the surprise this weekend. Boil boy, that's a good one.

511
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Speaker 4: I think the Bears beat the Rams, I think people

512
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Speaker 4: will be surprised by that. You know, Matthew Stafford, number

513
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 4: one quarterback in the NFL, thrown the deep ball this year,

514
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Speaker 4: and I think it's gonna it's gonna stress that Bears secondary.

515
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Speaker 4: But I think the Chicago Bears played the three worst

516
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Speaker 4: quarters of football I've ever seen in my life wild

517
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Speaker 4: card round, and they found a way to have one

518
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Speaker 4: of the greatest comebacks in playoff history. I think Caleb

519
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Speaker 4: Williams in that locker room, did you did you see

520
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Speaker 4: you heard the speech after the game by Caleb to

521
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Speaker 4: Johnson that was so impactful if you just know the

522
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Speaker 4: whole story of what he went through last year and

523
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Speaker 4: how he wasn't being taught and how he felt, you know,

524
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Speaker 4: middle of the year, like he shouldn't have been there

525
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Speaker 4: to come back and now have a coach that believes

526
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Speaker 4: in you instills that confidence in you. I think the

527
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Speaker 4: Bears are one of the hottest teams in the league,

528
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Speaker 4: and if they could even play forty five minutes of

529
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Speaker 4: great football, I think no one in the league wants

530
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Speaker 4: to play them right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wondered about Caleb last year. Was he

532
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Speaker 2: being taught? I wondered about him at USC with Lincoln Riley,

533
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Speaker 2: did he want to be taught?

534
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Speaker 4: Okay?

535
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Speaker 2: And what was he taught? But with Ben Johnson there

536
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 2: was You're gonna be taught, There's no doubt that. So

537
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Speaker 2: there is a real difference in that, and you got

538
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Speaker 2: to embrace each other. Yeah, and having that head coach.

539
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Speaker 2: Normally you're OC, but you know Ben's your OC, your

540
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: quarterback whisper all those things, just like Kyle Shanahan. I

541
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Speaker 2: mean the value of having somebody like that who puts

542
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Speaker 2: you in those positions. I mean, you know that feeling

543
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 2: when you go to line of scrimmage and you're like, damn,

544
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 2: this is going to work. There's going to be a touchdown,

545
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: Like I got the answer to the test and that

546
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Speaker 2: feels like Caleb and I made the analogy. Ben probably

547
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Speaker 2: wants Caleb to be more like Jared Goff for the

548
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Speaker 2: first three quarters. In the fourth quarter you go be

549
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams correct and you're right, You're on hundred percent

550
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: right there. Dead personalities they have to match.

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Speaker 4: And when you look at Lincoln Riley and what he

552
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Speaker 4: was able to do with Caleb, like Caleb followed him

553
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Speaker 4: to us. It wasn't like he had to really try

554
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 4: to prove him to go there, Like Caleb knew, like

555
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Speaker 4: I've had success with this guy. You know, I know him,

556
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Speaker 4: I know this system. I'm going to be successful at

557
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Speaker 4: USC And he was maybe not as successful as they

558
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Speaker 4: wanted to be national championship wise, but he was successful.

559
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Speaker 4: Then you come in to a situation where you don't

560
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 4: have an offensive head coach. That coach is on the

561
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Speaker 4: hot seat. He's trying to do everything he possibly can

562
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Speaker 4: do to save his job, but you're not taking priority there.

563
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 4: And so Ben Johnson comes in, and I think they're

564
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 4: on completely opposite sides of the spectrum. I think, you know,

565
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 4: Caleb is the he's painting his fingernails, he's wearing the

566
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 4: craziest clothes. He's got a different personality. You hear him

567
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 4: when he talks like he's a deep thinker. And Ben

568
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,959
Speaker 4: Johnson is like a maniac, you know, like he wants

569
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Speaker 4: He's like Kurt Signetti. He wants to score sixty five

570
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 4: points on you and he doesn't care. Like that postgame

571
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 4: handshake with Matt Lafour was. It was hilarious because basketballship,

572
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 4: like I get, but this is the guy that said, hey,

573
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Speaker 4: I like beating that guy two times a year, you know.

574
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Speaker 4: So I love that part of it, and I think

575
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Speaker 4: they balance each other out. And I don't think Caleb

576
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 4: Williams will ever be Jared Goff, and I think that's okay.

577
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Speaker 4: When he was on the sideline during the game last

578
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Speaker 4: week and he was you know, some people were saying

579
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Speaker 4: he was throwing little, you know, little fits on the

580
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Speaker 4: sideline and getting upset. I just looked at it as like, hey,

581
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Speaker 4: when we do it's not good enough. When we don't

582
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Speaker 4: do good, it's not good enough. And he held them

583
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Speaker 4: to that standard and that's why I think they got

584
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 4: out of the rut that they were in. So I'm

585
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Speaker 4: seeing massive increases in the leadership ability from Caleb Williams,

586
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 4: and it's because Ben Johnson has created an environment where

587
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Speaker 4: he can lead. I thought that was the most impressive thing,

588
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 4: and I think they're flourishing together.

589
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Speaker 2: Finish this sentence. If the Bills lose in Denver.

590
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Speaker 4: Oh Sean McDermott is gone. I thought for sure if

591
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 4: they lost to the Jags, they would make an organizational shift.

592
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 4: But I think the narrative outside the building is really

593
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 4: strong right now that Lamar Jackson isn't there. Patrick Mahomes

594
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 4: isn't there, Joe Burrow isn't in the playoffs. And I've

595
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Speaker 4: been the very adamant and vocal about all the clowns

596
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 4: out there that keep saying that this is a legacy

597
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 4: defining playoffs for Josh Allen. I don't think it is.

598
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Speaker 4: He's one of the greatest playoff quarterbacks we've ever seen.

599
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 4: You know, you can list the stats. He's total touchdowns,

600
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Speaker 4: he think he's first or second in the in league history.

601
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 4: Total yards, he's number one touchdown interception ratio. I think

602
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: he's one or two. So like he he is a

603
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 4: high performer, and wins aren't a quarterback stat. But if

604
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 4: they lose with the same staff, essentially in the same

605
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 4: head coach, without those guys being there, the noise from

606
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 4: Bill's mafia alone would be enough for them to make

607
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 4: a change. So I think if they lose that game,

608
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Speaker 4: McDermott goes with it.

609
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Speaker 2: How did the Niners beat Seattle? Got to get pressure

610
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: on saying they don't sack anybody.

611
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Speaker 4: They don't. They don't got Bosa Fred Warner. I've seen

612
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 4: his miraculous come back. I don't know what he's taking,

613
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 4: but we all need to eat some of that, but

614
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 4: they're not They don't sack anyone. They don't have the pressure.

615
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 4: But when you look at Sam Darnold, like as a coach,

616
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Speaker 4: if I'm the defensive coordinator, I don't go with the

617
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 4: game saying, damn man, we can't we can't sack the quarterback.

618
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 4: I just have to look at the numbers and say,

619
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Speaker 4: when Sam Donald is pressured, he's a fifty to fifty quarterback.

620
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 4: I think he's His touchdown interception ratio is six to six,

621
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Speaker 4: and when he's not pressured, he is unbelievable. He might

622
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Speaker 4: be the league MVP when he's not pressured. So if

623
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Speaker 4: you're Sam Frian, you have to decide do you want

624
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 4: to die fast or do you want to die slow.

625
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 4: If you want to die slow, play play zone coverage,

626
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 4: don't don't bring any pressure, don't try to blitz him,

627
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 4: and just see if he has a you know what

628
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 4: many believe is like a Sam Sam Donald moment where

629
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Speaker 4: he he just doesn't perform in the playoffs, Or you

630
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 4: can say, you know what, I trust our guys. We're

631
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 4: gonna bring pressure and we're gonna try We're gonna try

632
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 4: to make him uncomfortable, not just by rushing for and

633
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 4: I think that's what they have to do. And the

634
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Speaker 4: same thing on the other side for Seattle at brock Purty.

635
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Speaker 4: Brock Purty was one for seven against the against the

636
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Speaker 4: blitz against the Eagles, Like I anticipate a lot of

637
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 4: blitzing in this game. I don't think they're gonna sit

638
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 4: back and say, well, let's just see if we got

639
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 4: it today. You know, I think they're going to try

640
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 4: to go make it happen and that's how they beat them.

641
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: The Texans, to me, are really fascinating because people just

642
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: don't talk about the Texans. They don't and that defense

643
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: has been staring at everybody the last half of the season.

644
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: I don't know about Nico Collins, c J. Stroud can't

645
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: have that kind of game on the road. But I

646
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised at all if they win that game,

647
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: and they win it with defense. But you know, you

648
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: got to get a couple of offensive touchdowns there and

649
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: take a little bit of pressure off that defense, correct.

650
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Speaker 4: You know, before we get into that, did you guys

651
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 4: see the postgame press conference when when Will Anderson was

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Speaker 4: sitting next to Alsherzir, the linebacker. The contrast and how

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Speaker 4: big of a human being will I mean, that's a

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Speaker 4: big linebacker. And Will Anderson was like doublest. It looked

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Speaker 4: like he ate him for breakfast. So like you look

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Speaker 4: at the offensive lineman and you're going against these guys,

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Speaker 4: and Will Anderson is even the biggest one. Daniel Hunter

658
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Speaker 4: is bigger than he is. I think that's an intimidation factor.

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Speaker 4: But for the Texans to win, they have to do

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Speaker 4: it essentially what they did to the Steelers. They have

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Speaker 4: to they have to run the football. You know what

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Speaker 4: he marks and and Shubb had you know, over one

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Speaker 4: hundred yards you know, combined, I think it was one

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Speaker 4: to sixty something like that. But they have to be

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Speaker 4: able to run the football to take pressure off of CJ.

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Speaker 4: Stroud because CJ has struggled this year. Yeah, and it

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Speaker 4: could be new offense. You know, Nico being in and

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Speaker 4: out of the of the lineup. You know, I don't

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Speaker 4: know what it is, but it's something is off with him.

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Speaker 4: So yes, CJ, you'll have ten great passes and then

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Speaker 4: you'll have seven throws. You're like, where did that come from?

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Speaker 4: So when you have that situation with your quarterback, you

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Speaker 4: have to play great defense and run the football. The

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Speaker 4: Patriots on the other side, Drake May, I noticed during

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Speaker 4: the game, like, you got sacked five times that first round.

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Speaker 4: It's like, at some point Drake May has to make

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Speaker 4: the decision to get jiggy with it in the open field.

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Speaker 4: He's got to use his legs. The Texans are top

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Speaker 4: ten in every dang near defensive category, the number one

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Speaker 4: defense in the league, I believe, But they're the worst

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Speaker 4: defense in the league against quarterback scrambles. So if you're

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Speaker 4: Drake May, you have to say to yourself, Hey, after

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Speaker 4: one or two of these sacks, man, I gotta give

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Speaker 4: my line some confidence and I got to break out

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Speaker 4: in the open field and go make a play happen.

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Speaker 4: You know, I could see in my offensive lineman's eyes

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Speaker 4: when they couldn't block someone. I walk in the huddle,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, we got three jet and they're like

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Speaker 4: three hit. Come on, man, I'm fighting for my life

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Speaker 4: out here. And of one run would give them the confidence,

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Speaker 4: Dan one run would give them the confidence to say,

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Speaker 4: all right, even if I miss this guy, I'm still

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Speaker 4: gonna fire my hands quick because my guy back here

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Speaker 4: is going to have my back. You know. Seventy percent

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Speaker 4: of the time. Maybe I'll give up a sack or two,

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Speaker 4: but I'm not going to get beat the entire game.

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Speaker 4: And I think Drake has to take that mindset into

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Speaker 4: this one. The quarterback scrambles going to be a big

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Speaker 4: part of it.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait until after the game with the Patriots

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Speaker 2: win and he has some of these runs and he said,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm just quoting RG three of just getting

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Speaker 2: jiggy with it.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that'd be better than some of the coaches he's

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Speaker 4: had with Cam tearing them down, right, I.

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Speaker 2: Know what, Why is Cam tearing down a kid who

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Speaker 2: idolized Cam Newton growing up?

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Speaker 4: It's it baffles me. And listen, I know Cam's your guy,

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Speaker 4: he's my guy. We like Cam like but at the

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Speaker 4: end of the day, they always say, don't meet your

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Speaker 4: heroes sometimes, and this is one of those moments. Like

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Speaker 4: Drake may loves Cam Newton. It's like top two and

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Speaker 4: MVP voting. I always find it weird when people hate

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Speaker 4: on people or try to devalue them when they're having

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Speaker 4: the like the greatest seasons they've ever had. Yes, like,

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Speaker 4: we're supposed to celebrate sports, but Cam was upset the

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Speaker 4: Colts didn't reach out to him, and they reached out

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Speaker 4: to Philip Rivers. I know that's a that's a relationship thing, Dan.

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Speaker 4: Philip was there and he knows those guys. He knows

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Speaker 4: that system. I think sometimes in this media game, when

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Speaker 4: it's when it's everyone's trying to compete for attention, like

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Speaker 4: some people are trying to find ways to be slighted,

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Speaker 4: and I, you know, I just I don't think that.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm not mad that the Coast didn't

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Speaker 4: reach out to me.

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Speaker 2: You know you are You're not in the College Football

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame yet?

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Speaker 3: Me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, did that vote?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Have you been breaking news here? I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: No, No, did you You're not in the College Football

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 4: Right? I'm not? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Are you upset that you're not in the College Football

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 4: That's a great question, Dan, I don't. I don wouldn't

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Speaker 4: say upset. I would say that it would be an

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Speaker 4: honor to be in the College Football I would say that,

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Speaker 4: you know, as a Heisman Trophy winner and everything that

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Speaker 4: I was able to accomplish at Baylor with my teammates,

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Speaker 4: that's a that's an honor that I look forward to

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Speaker 4: sharing with them. I wouldn't say I'm upset that I'm

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00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 4: not in. I would just say I look at it

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Speaker 4: as just being grateful and not not worrying about that.

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Speaker 4: That stuff's gonna happen when it happens.

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Speaker 2: Cam is not in either. Really, Yeah, that's yeah, Now.

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Speaker 4: I can go harder on that for you me to.

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Speaker 2: That's legitimate that he would be upset. You know, if

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Speaker 2: he was going to be upset not being in the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame College Football Hall of Fame, he can

752
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Speaker 2: he can be upset.

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Speaker 4: He should be more upset that he's not in the

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Speaker 4: college Football Hall of Fame as a guy that won

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Speaker 4: the Heisman National Championship, put a team on his back,

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Speaker 4: and had one of the probably the single greatest year

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Speaker 4: maybe him and Joe Burrow, single greatest year I've ever

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Speaker 4: seen in college football. He could be upset about that

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Speaker 4: more so than he should be upset at Drake may for.

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Speaker 2: Being an ad camp better college quarterback you or Cam

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Speaker 2: Newton better college quarterback?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Uh, I mean, that's just it's a hard question.

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Speaker 4: One year coage football, you had two played, I had

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Speaker 4: two great Americans. But here's the question, would I take

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Speaker 4: Cam Newton over myself in college football. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh, great to talk to you. Have fun this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Good luck with the podcast. Appreciate your brother, God blessed.

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Speaker 2: That's our G three out of Pockets With RG three podcast,

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Speaker 2: Cam Newton had. You can make a case like Joe

770
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Speaker 2: Burrow had two of the greatest receivers in college football history,

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00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: Cam Newton had Cam Newton. So if you want to

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Speaker 2: talk about single handedly, he's more responsible probably for a

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Speaker 2: national championship than maybe any other quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul, Yeah, as you said, Cam barely played it

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Speaker 3: all at Florida. One year at Auburn thirty touchdowns, seven picks,

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Speaker 3: and then of course you know he ran for almost

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Speaker 3: a thousand yards hycy check that check fourteen and seventy

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Speaker 3: three yards and twenty touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: We will take a break, last call for phone calls.

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Speaker 2: What we learn, what's in store tomorrow after this.

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Speaker 2: Just got more information here. Federal prosecutors have charged dozens

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Speaker 2: of people in a wide ranging scheme to fix basketball games.

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Speaker 2: In recent years, indictments target about two dozen people, sports,

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Speaker 2: gamblers and others to recruit players to participate in a

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Speaker 2: variety of schemes to impact the games, including point shaving.

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Speaker 2: Betters would cast wages against the player's team. Some of

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Speaker 2: those bets were for hundreds of thousands of dollars. The

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Speaker 2: scheme allegedly involved Division IE players from Tulane, Nickels State,

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Speaker 2: Kennesaw State, Northwestern State, and Leasal. The operation involved thirty

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Speaker 2: nine players on more than seventeen Division one teams, with

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Speaker 2: Better's waging millions of dollars on at least twenty nine

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Speaker 2: different games. One of the players who is indicted is

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Speaker 2: the leading scorer right now for Kennesaw State. Simeon Coddle

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Speaker 2: is currently the leading scorer in Conference USA at twenty

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Speaker 2: points per game. So there's a long list of players

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Speaker 2: former players that are indicted. Here, you're talking millions of dollars. Now,

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Speaker 2: as I said to you, sometimes you go to these

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Speaker 2: smaller schools, so we're talking Kennesaw State, Nickels State, Lasal,

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Speaker 2: tou Lane. I mean, these aren't basketball powers. That's why

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Speaker 2: you can go to these kids at these schools and

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Speaker 2: you probably they think nobody is going to follow this,

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Speaker 2: nobody is going to notice this. They're not making nil

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Speaker 2: money there. That's where if I was going to fix

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Speaker 2: a game.

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Speaker 4: That's where I would be going. Yes, un, I think

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Speaker 4: they're Billy making a nickel at Nickels State night.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes you got to do it under.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to too soon. How about we go around

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Speaker 2: the room. We're at the end of the show.

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Speaker 6: Where at the time.

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Speaker 2: Going, I don't know, let's do another hour. Who's with me?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: Well, Todd, would you learn today.

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Speaker 4: RG three sets?

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Speaker 3: If the bill was in Denver, Shaw mcderalid be fined

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Speaker 3: and Drake may have to get jiggy with it in

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Speaker 2: Marvin, it's harball day in New York.

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Speaker 3: Paul Kennesaw State played just last night with that player. Mmmm, Todd,

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