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Download 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.440 the app and you can watch all three hours for free. 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:40.160 We couldn't charge you for this content. I'm not sure 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.440 there's any coach in the NFL that needs a win 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:46.160 more than Urban Meyer does this weekend. The Jags coach 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.640 hasn't exactly been getting the right kind of headlines. In 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:53.440 his first NFL Stint got nailed for violating practice rules. 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:55.960 He brought in Tim Tebow for a tryout that was 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.760 a failed experiment, brought in a strength and conditioning coach 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:04.720 with a checkered past. There's a report out that maybe 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:08.560 he was rubbing people the wrong way inside the organization 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:11.240 that his team got blown out by the Texans, and 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.520 no wonder Urban's name came up when USC fired its 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:18.280 head coach Clay Helton. Urban said, no chance that he 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:22.000 would be interested. There's no reason not to believe him. 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:25.200 But the fact that everyone assumed he'd be interested says 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.080 a lot. Because people don't have a lot of faith 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.920 that urban Meyer will be able to replicate his college 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.920 success in the pros and mainly because urban Meyer doesn't 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.600 appear to have a lot of patients. He better find 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:39.319 it because the Jags don't seem to be close to 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:42.520 becoming a winning team anytime soon. And that is the 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:45.520 hardest part I talked about the transition. It's one thing 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:49.560 to go from being a successful college coach to then 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:53.560 going and being a successful pro coach, because the chances 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:57.160 are you're getting the job because they're desperate to find 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:01.640 somebody and they're willing to overpay. I mean the Dolphins. 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:06.280 Nick Saban had success at LSU, Steve Spurrier had success 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:10.239 at Florida. Washington rolled out the red carpet the Jags. 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:12.799 Let's see, let's make a run at urban Meyer. We're 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:14.720 gonna have to give him a lot of money the 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.560 Raiders to get John Gruden out of the broadcast booth. 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:22.280 But you need a couple of successful drafts, and right 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.519 now you've got Trevor Lawrence and we're going to see 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.360 if they're able to build upon that right now. But 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.440 also you're not You don't lose. You don't lose this 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.040 time of the year. Trevor Lawrence doesn't lose this time 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:38.400 of the year. Urban may lose late, maybe loses in December, 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.839 but he's not losing that many games. I don't care 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:46.600 how successful you are. It's not the winning, it's the losing. 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.120 You know you can win ten games, it's the one 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.560 loss of the two losses that eat away at you. Now, 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:56.679 these coaches expect to win. Trevor Lawrence expects to win. 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.560 He's never lost a regular season game until last week 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.760 against the Texans. His losses in high school were in 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:07.200 the postseason, and his losses at Clemson were in the 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:12.920 postseason as well. Urban doesn't lose regular season games. He's 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:16.760 going to have to get used to losing ten games 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:20.560 at the minimum. I mean, imagine that for a guy 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:24.960 who doesn't have patience, and you know he's had total autonomy. 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:28.240 You control everything, And now you go in and you're 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:31.519 trying to control and you can't, and then it starts 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:35.000 to spiral out of control, and then you know, you 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.560 get short with people. Hey, this isn't the way it's 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.400 supposed to happen. We're supposed to win. And now you 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:46.200 get national TV criticism because NFL coverage is different than 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:51.360 Big ten coverage. Everybody wants to talk about, Hey, look 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.560 what's going on with Urban? Hey you interested in USC? 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.640 Urban decides that apparently he doesn't want to talk to 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.320 the Denver media. They have Denver coming up this weekend. 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.680 They're a home underdog to Denver. You can't do that 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:08.080 at Ohio State. You can not in the NFL. And 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:12.040 it starts to eat away at you. And then you go, 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.360 what am I thinking? I'm going to go back to 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:18.320 college as Steve Spurrier did, as Nick Saban did, and 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:22.039 is Urban going to go back to college? That's why 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.160 I think for a guy who's not interested in anything 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:30.240 to do with USC, apparently his name came up by everybody. 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:36.200 First name that came up Urban Meyer. Now subsequently we've 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:39.640 heard other names. I gave you James Franklin yesterday and 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:43.600 Bob Stoop's name came up, Matt Campbell came up from 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:45.839 Iowa State. You know, so there's names that are going 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.200 to be out there, but a lot of these coaches 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.000 are going to use this to get a pay raise. 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.359 Urban's got a great job. You know, he wanted to 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.520 come back. He had the number one pick in the draft. 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:58.440 The reason why he's coming back he had Trevor Lawrence. 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.800 They're waiting for him, a once in a generation quarterback. 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.320 But this is all about the staff that you build, 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.680 the infrastructure you have, and that's what's going to be 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:12.719 interesting to watch with Urban because you don't you don't 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:15.719 want to get used to losing, but you better get 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:19.120 used to losing, certainly this year. Yeah, Paul, you want 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.560 to play the guess how many regular season losses Urban 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.719 Meyer had in his seven years at Ohio State game? 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.280 In seven seasons at Ohio State, how many regular season 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:35.200 losses did he have? Seven? That's correct? One a year, yeah, 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:39.640 and one of the years he had done Yeah. How 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.120 long does it take for him to get seven losses 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:50.800 this year? By thanksgivings? Yeah? What's seven weeks today? Let's 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:54.120 they have a bye. They're they're going to win. I mean, 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.359 they're going to win a couple of games, and you know, 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:01.120 I think they're underdogs in every game, but they will. 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.760 It's like the Texans, they're bad, but it just it's 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:08.479 really hard to go undefeated and really hard to go 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:12.279 winless in the NFL. But if you if you have 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.320 that great draft class in college, you can have a 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.440 great recruiting class and that can change your fortunes. But 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:22.240 he's so used to having the best talent at Florida 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:26.039 and certainly at Ohio State. You know, the coaching he 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:29.200 did prior to that, you know, that's where we didn't 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.200 know him. He wasn't on the radar as much. And 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:35.440 the fact that he stopped through Notre Dame and wanted 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.120 to have from what I'm told, he wanted to have 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:42.680 the same kind of recruiting windows that Lou Holtz ad 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:44.479 and they said, no, we're not going to allow you 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:46.880 to have two players that we can get in who 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.560 shouldn't be getting into Notre Dame. And he just kept 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:54.040 driving down to Florida. That was it. Urban would have 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.920 been at Notre Dame all right eight seven seven three 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.640 d P show email address DP at dan Patrick dot com, 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:03.320 Twitter handle at DP show Here's Urban. Yesterday, when asked 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:08.000 about the possibility of USC, you sip from the get 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:10.560 go with this job with the kind of your dream 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:14.160 job as a right scenario. Unfortunately for you, some rumors 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.560 came out yesterday and connecting you to the USC job. 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:18.960 I just just want to give you doctunity to refute it, 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:23.520 so there's no chance that I'm here and committed to 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:28.680 try to build an organization. Okay, First of all, I 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.240 think i'd phrase the question a little bit more manly. 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:37.280 Not an opportunity to refute it, how about an opportunity 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.040 to comment? Yes, and actually if you go right back 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.760 before that he goes. Unfortunately for you, your name came 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.080 up in rumors. What do you mean? Unfortunately, it should 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.520 be flattered that his name was the first one. Unfortunately. Yeah, 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:54.280 what does that mean? Yeah, not exactly an interrogation there, 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:55.960 you know, I just want to give you an opportunity 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.880 to refute, to refute that, of course. And yes, mclovin, 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:00.960 I mean it is pretty crazy. One game into his 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:06.160 NFL career and he's already been a rumored for the places. Well, 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:08.680 I think it's the timing of the firing at USC, 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.920 because you're not used to this, and you're going, okay, 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:18.520 September firing at a big programs. That's why I was like, wow, 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:21.040 why would they fire him unless they knew? And you know, 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.520 Eric B. Enemy's name came up yesterday the Kents City 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:28.440 Chiefs offensive coordinator, and you know, while he said, hey, 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:31.000 that's one of the jobs that I would take in college, 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.640 I think he still wants to be an NFL coach. 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:36.840 But when can you get Eric B. Enemy. Let's say 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:41.960 USC says, hey, Eric B. Enemy, who's interested. We'll hire you, 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:45.880 but you have to leave now. I don't want you 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:48.760 to be waiting until February, and you'd have to wait 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:52.640 for Eric B. Enemy until February. And I think that's 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.800 another interesting part of this is when do you get 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:59.200 the coach that you want? Because you've opened it up 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.760 and everybody knows USC has an opening now, But when 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:04.640 do you get to take advantage of that and be 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.080 able to hire somebody. It's going to be a while. 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.240 And I think that that's something you got a factor 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.560 in as well. Who were you getting and when are 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.640 you getting them? I don't know if somebody's going to 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:19.000 ask James Franklin based off what I said yesterday. I 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:22.199 don't know if he was available after our show yesterday, 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.400 but I'd be curious what he would say about that, 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:30.160 because his response that we played yesterday was not really 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:34.680 a denial, kind of a non denial denial. Yeah, McLevin. 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:37.600 There's nothing dumber than the fact that the assistant coaches 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:41.280 on the Super Bowl teams can't get hired. I don't 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:44.280 know if they've changed the rules, but those are supposedly 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.480 the best assistant coaches and they never get the job 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:48.679 because the guys who are out of the playoffs do. 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.079 But I think that they change that or tweaked that 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:53.199 a little bit because I know that that had been 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.800 a big issue and it was unfair to somebody who 0:09:56.880 --> 0:10:00.160 was the more success you had, the less likely it 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.000 was you were going to get hired because you were 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.760 going to be playing in late January or February. This 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:07.480 program brought to you by Dollars Shave Club. You can 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:10.160 upgrade to the Dollar Shave Club six blade razor for 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:13.960 a noticeably smooth shave thanks to their sixth precision cut 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.440 stainless steel blades. Find your perfect shave a Dollar Shave 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.800 Club in stores or Dollar Shave Club dot Com. Chris 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:23.120 Collinsworth is going to join us in about ten minutes 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.959 from now, Yes, Polly. About a year ago, the NFL 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:29.720 approved a change to the NFL's hiring cycle. Assistant coaches 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.880 would be allowed to take a promotion elsewhere or interview 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.959 without getting permission from their employer. So it gives you 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:39.200 a little more wiggle room, but it's still a kind 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:42.160 of a crapshoot. What else do you have in clubbing? Well, 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:45.200 I have a poll question. If you're Urban Meyer and 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:49.360 you've got access to a time machine, do you go 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:51.520 back and not take the Jags job? Do you go 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:55.960 back and not leave Ohio State? Or do you go 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.120 back and as a fun one, do you start Joe 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:02.400 Burrow over Dwayne Haskin. Although Haskins was pretty good too, 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:04.480 Yeah he was. They had a pretty good one and 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.480 done year. It's amazing that he beat out Joe Burrow 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:15.600 a time machine poll question. Well, I think health wise 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.839 that that helped the decision to step down at Ohio State. 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:28.120 I think Urban needed to um Man. There's there's only 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.400 a couple of great jobs in college football, like truly 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.760 great jobs. I heard Bill Plashky the Only Times columnists 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.559 yesterday on around the Horn. He said, USC is one 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:40.760 of the top three programs or top three jobs, and 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.520 I went, no, it's not. No, that's the problem with 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:48.320 you know, these guys who were in their fifties, they're like, oh, 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.599 you know student body right and all the Heisman trophies, 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:58.040 And kids nowadays don't care. They don't care about all 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:01.319 these Heisman trophies. They want to know who's the coach? 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.800 Can I play? And can I play on Sunday? What 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:09.440 kind of style? What do we have? Like, you're eighteen 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.960 years of age, what do you know? What do you 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:15.360 know about USC? What do you care about USC? If 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:17.080 I said, hey, what do you know about USC? And 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.560 what do you know about Oregon? Oh? Man, Oregon's got 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.840 those great uniforms. Have you been around an eighteen year old? 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:28.280 Because I've had four go through my family here. You 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.640 know they're now older. But when they're eighteen and you 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.040 have a conversation with them, like what do you like? 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:37.960 What do you want to do? They're eighteen, they're not fifty. 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:44.080 Where you go, yeah, oh my god, USC? I love it? Well, yeah, 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:47.800 we saw it at its peak. These kids nowadays, they 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:51.040 may look at Coastal Carolina and go man, I love 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:54.400 I love the colors, Matt. I mean, that's what you 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:58.240 have to understand. And it's hard to understand that because 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.880 you're going. Of course, you want to go play, you 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:04.559 want to play there. What in your lifetime or in 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.040 the last ten years, what is it about USC that 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.000 you'd go, Yep, that's where I want to be. Yeah. 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.760 Like the last star player that really crossed over at 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.120 USC football has got to be Reggie Bush right where 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:17.440 he was a household name going into his junior year 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.000 and up for the Heisman, great highlights, all that stuff. 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.440 Reggie Bush graduate left USC in two thousand and five. 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.920 That's sixteen years ago. So if you're seventeen, you were 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:30.720 one when he was a star there and unless your parents, 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.320 but then you don't listen to your parents, and when 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.600 your parents go, you know, you need to go to USC. 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:40.240 Like USC is losing some marquee quarterback or well, you know, 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:43.040 Southern California. These are more key quarterbacks who are playing 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:47.839 at Clemson in Alabama. That never happened. Sean Salisbury, you 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.720 played at USC. He's going to join us coming up 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:56.160 next hour. He's agitated about this because I agree with 0:13:56.200 --> 0:14:00.280 what he's been saying these kids nowadays, Hey, it's on 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:04.839 TikTok and before you go now that, I mean, these 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.679 kids are aware of other things name, image and likeness. 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:13.439 Oh you can take advantage of Southern California, can you? Like? Okay? 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:18.040 It seems like when you get to the a city 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:21.600 where the school is the only thing, that's when you 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:26.440 take advantage of name, image, and likeness Southern California, USC UCLA. 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:29.360 It's like, uh, yeah, I gotta wait in line for 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:33.880 all the other guys who are getting benefits. Yeah. Yeah, 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:37.800 it's like, oh, I have Lebron here, Anthony Davis, Cody Bellinger. 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.000 You're not going to get to the USC quarterback until 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:44.200 one hundred. Yeah, it's I watch a highlight this morning, 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.480 the Florida Alabama rivalry in two thousand and nine. Florida 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:51.200 was the dominant team. They're like, Alabama shocked Florida, like 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.880 made a statement if changes, doesn't it. What do you 0:14:54.920 --> 0:15:01.360 think of my quarterback at Florida, the kid Anthony Richardson. Yes, 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:05.920 well he's not starting yet, I know, but I'm fascinated 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:09.440 by him. Who does he remind you of? Like if 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:14.400 Kyle Pitts played quarterback. He's he's one of those guys. 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.880 He's like six to five about you know, two forty 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:23.120 and you're just going and that's a quarterback. He's listen 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.640 at six four two thirty eight and I don't think 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:29.000 he's only two thirty eight. Yeah, he's he's a Really 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:32.120 he was doing backflips prior to the game last week. 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.119 I mean not that that you want that from your quarterback, 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.760 but I'm just I was. I was watching the highlights 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:41.160 and they go, oh, boy, get ready for this whatever 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:45.440 this is. And you know, it's like a train final week. 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:49.360 In fact, you got till tomorrow the next Great Podcast Contest. 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:53.200 It's a great opportunity. Submit your podcast idea to myself 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:56.080 and we'll go into business together. 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It's the perception of 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:41.960 Thursday Night, the standalone game. The standalone game on Sunday 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:45.240 Night is Chiefs and the Ravens. Chris collins Worth will 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:48.480 be there with Al Michaels Michelle Tafoya. Kickoff at eight 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:52.040 twenty and the festivities begin at seven Eastern on Football 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:55.000 Night America. Chris, thanks for joining us. I know that 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:58.520 you were at Florida, spent your college days at Florida. 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:03.320 Were you recruited by West those teams back then? I was. 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:08.560 I got recruited by USC and flew out there knowing 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:12.280 there was no way I was leaving Florida at eighteen 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.920 years old and flying and go in LA. But somebody 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:18.280 offers you a free trip to Los Angeles. You've never 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.520 been before. I've never even been on an airplane by 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.480 the time I got my first recruiting trip to Florida State, 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:28.080 and I can remember just sitting there staring out the window, 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:32.480 like this is the most incredible thing ever. But here's 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.840 my recruiting trip Anthony Munos took me to a Lakers game. 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:40.040 They gave him. They gave him two hundred bucks to 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.480 take me out on the town. He takes me to 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:45.480 halftime the Lakers game, goes at this game's kind of boring, 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:47.880 Let's get out of here, like, oh, okay, we're gonna 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:49.880 go party in La All right, let's go do this, 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.959 driving me back to the hotel, hands me twenty bucks 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:55.800 to get a cheese barker and says, hey, it's been 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.280 a great time. Hope you come here. It takes the 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:01.199 other one hundred eighty bucks and pockets as sucker and 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:04.359 goes home. But as part of the trip, I got 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:08.040 to watch O. J. Simpson play tennis. They turned me 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.400 to his house. I got to see the Heisman trophy. 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:13.240 I got to set out in a little chair and 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:16.919 I think it was his agent's house while they played tennis. 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:18.679 And that was that was a big part of my 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:22.840 recruiting trip. We were talking about Urban Meyer. You know 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.480 that that you can get a recruiting class in college 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:28.000 and it can change you know, your your your program. 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:31.280 He can't really do that, and uh, and I don't 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.200 know if you can get used to losing. So it 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.520 doesn't eat away you would as much. But you know, 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:40.760 that whole college experience of going from Ohio State where 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:44.399 he lost seven regular season games, he might lose seven 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:48.320 by Thanksgiving. What advice would you give Urban to sort 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:53.280 of not accept losing but somehow tolerate losing for a 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.040 little while so it doesn't eat him up. You know, 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:58.800 it's a really good point that you control the whole 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.720 process when you're college football. If you have bad players 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:04.280 at your own fall right, you didn't go recruit the 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:08.439 best players that are out there. It's a humbling experience, 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:11.600 you know, either one way or the other. At Florida 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:15.239 my junior year, we switched coaches and we went oh 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:19.719 ten and one, And I'll never forget that experience as 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:22.879 long as I lived, just because it was like every 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:25.200 time you went into one of these big lecture halls 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.800 that had four or five hundred people in it, and 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:32.280 you would inevitably there would be some joke made about 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:35.439 the football team. And I never really experienced that. You know, 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:37.680 in high school we were always good. We started off 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:39.600 pretty good at Florida, and when you were oh ten 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:42.640 and one, and I always thought that alone I could 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:45.840 win one game. You know, just just like, go on, 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:48.880 surely I can make enough players to win one game 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:52.399 in a season, and it just was so insane to 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:54.880 go through that. And for Urban, I don't think he's 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:58.200 ever had a losing season in college. I had him 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:00.879 on a show once and I looked, I remember, like, 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:03.800 I think it's seventeen years, he's never had a losing year. 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:06.800 And sitting on the sideline the other day watching what 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:10.000 was supposed to be the worst team in football kind 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:13.200 of eat is a bunch alive over there. I don't 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:15.480 think there's any way to get used to that. I 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:19.080 don't and I'm sure he was flattered and when some 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:22.040 of the USC rumors were starting to kick around out there, 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:25.199 But I don't think that's him either. You know, I 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:28.000 think he'll stay the course. He's gonna be fine. He's 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:31.440 a good coach. But the other thing is you may 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:35.160 not be able to quite work NFL players the way 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:38.480 that you could just sort of work Tim Tebow in 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:40.560 that crowd. The only guy that I really ever saw 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:43.640 and get away with that was Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy Johnson 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:47.640 when he first went to Dallas, they said those were 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:51.920 among the hardest practices in the history of the National 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:54.040 Football and of course when they went one game I 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:56.600 think their first year, and then after that it was 0:21:56.720 --> 0:22:00.720 game on. Yeah, I just don't know. You can see 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:04.720 every loss on Urban's face, and there's not a lot 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:08.800 of lossuits, but it just feels like you it's going 0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:11.440 to eat you up, like you know Saban when he 0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:14.240 went to the Dolphins or Spurrier when he went to Washington. 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:17.199 You know, they were like, I can't control this. I 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:20.119 don't like this. I'm going back to college. And I 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:23.080 don't want to say that Urban pulls the rip cord 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:26.399 after one year. But I don't see him coaching the 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:29.760 entire contract there because I just don't. I don't think 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:33.080 it's in his DNA. Well. You know the other thing 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:36.040 about Urban is he did walk away from it at 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:38.239 one point, right, and I'm not so sure if it 0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:42.800 was him or his family or the pressure. And even 0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:46.440 in broadcasting, you know, I mean, would I do this 0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:48.919