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Speaker 1: I Am all in again.

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Speaker 2: Oh, let's just you.

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Speaker 1: I Am all in Town meeting with Suzanne French and

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Speaker 1: Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to

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Speaker 1: another episode of I'm All in Town meeting with myself,

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Speaker 1: Tar and Suzanne. Heh, Hi, Sorry if I sound a

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Speaker 1: little nasally. You've got this winter cold that's going around.

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Speaker 2: You do sound a little congested.

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Speaker 1: It was worse yesterday. I took a suit of fed

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Speaker 1: so feeling a little bit better. All right. So today

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Speaker 1: we're talking about season three, episode fourteen, Swan Song, which

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Speaker 1: aired on February eleventh, two thousand and three. And I

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Speaker 1: have to start by saying, at last time Susanna and

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Speaker 1: I were on, she told me that this theory that

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Speaker 1: I didn't know about about the Swan situation with Jess

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Speaker 1: and that people don't think it's true.

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Speaker 2: Well that's my hot take, Okay. I think everybody else

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Speaker 2: believes the Swan story. I personally think he was lying.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I watched it with a completely different mindset

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Speaker 1: this time, and I think I'm on your side, yay.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is is, like I can understand where

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Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, well, like it's definitely true. Because it's

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Speaker 1: just such a Gilmore thing, like it's so stupid, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but there's no payoff, right, I mean there is a payoff.

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Speaker 1: The payoff is that he claims that like, oh I

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Speaker 1: got hit by a swan, but like that's it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I've mentioned this in Facebook groups in the past,

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Speaker 2: like a long time ago, and everybody like jumped all

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Speaker 2: over me and they were like, well, they went and

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Speaker 2: they saw the swan, so of course it was the swan.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't prove anything, though, I mean, the fact that

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Speaker 2: there's a swan in a lake does not prove that

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Speaker 2: it attacked Jess because they went to see the swan

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Speaker 2: and the swan did nothing, like it ignored them. And

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Speaker 2: I just have a hard time thinking about Jess kind

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Speaker 2: of as a person and all the shenanigans that he

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Speaker 2: gets into when he comes to Stars Hollow. He doesn't,

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Speaker 2: especially to grown ups. He doesn't tell the truth, and

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Speaker 2: I just have a hard time believing that Luke would

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Speaker 2: be the one person that he tells the truth too.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And I remember even the very first time I saw

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Speaker 2: the episode, when my very first run through of the show,

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Speaker 2: and I remember like when the episode ended, and he

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Speaker 2: because he talks about the swan and then he tells

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Speaker 2: Rory he got hit in the face with a football,

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Speaker 2: and I remember the episode ended and I thought, but what,

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Speaker 2: like how did how did it happen? Like I was like, wait,

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Speaker 2: that's the end. They can't just leave with me, Like

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Speaker 2: I never thought that we got resolution to that question.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think it was this one.

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Speaker 1: There's no payoff, and even like in the episode after

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Speaker 1: still nothing happened. But also I feel like he was

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Speaker 1: extra angry, So I would be not that I'm I

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Speaker 1: would fight someone, but yeah, it would be that level

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Speaker 1: of angry if I got into a fight with someone,

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Speaker 1: not if like I tripped and got a bruise. Like

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many times where like I've banged

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Speaker 1: my like elbow or hip or something into like you know,

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Speaker 1: like the corner of the table. The amount of times

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Speaker 1: I've hit a corner of a table on my hip

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Speaker 1: and then my my hip bone gets a bruise, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what am I angry at the table? Right? You know,

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Speaker 1: like especially that angry. I also know that he didn't

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Speaker 1: want to go to Friday night dinner, so right.

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Speaker 2: And we've also seen him get in random fights. Before

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Speaker 2: there was that fight the Dean trying to break up. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like just getting on some random guy. So like it

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Speaker 2: seems like it probably was just he just had some

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how he got the black eye.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think it was the Swan. And it

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Speaker 2: was finning. My husband watched this episode with me and

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Speaker 2: he did the opposite, like he always distrusted that story also,

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Speaker 2: but then this time he's like, you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: know it was Swan because his point, and I can

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Speaker 2: see his point, was that why would if he was

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Speaker 2: making up the story, Like why would he have gone

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Speaker 2: to all that trouble to go to the lake? And yeah,

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Speaker 2: the same time, he was also by then so committed

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Speaker 2: to the lie, maybe that he had to prove his point.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know the right answer. I

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Speaker 2: just my gut feeling is that it was not a Swan.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to hear people's opinions on our Instagram. Yes,

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Speaker 1: then when you put it that way, Like, why would

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Speaker 1: he go out of his way to go canoe into

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Speaker 1: the lake? Just a full effort in the Luke.

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Speaker 2: Right for a lie? I mean yeah, I just feel

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Speaker 2: like I.

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Speaker 1: Would have believed more like, Oh, I was playing basketball

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Speaker 2: But then he comes up, He's like, oh, I was

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Speaker 2: throwing a football with a buddy and I got hit. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know that's a.

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Speaker 1: Lie, but that was more believable.

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Speaker 2: Well, but just doesn't have buddies, Like who the hell

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Speaker 2: is he gonna be throwing a football with?

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Speaker 1: It's okay, complaints Luke. He was playing with Luke.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I feel like it's an unresolved

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Speaker 2: question for me personally, and I think I'm in an

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Speaker 2: already in that and I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, my one thing is Rory pissed me off

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Speaker 1: of Friday night dinner because she might freaking drop it.

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Speaker 2: She was terrible.

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Speaker 1: Just wait, just wait one hour and then deal with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I you know, Jess is not my favorite person,

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Speaker 2: but I was one hundred percent on his side in

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Speaker 2: this episode. She made it so much worse than it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially like.

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Speaker 2: She knows, don't do that crap in front of Emily,

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Speaker 2: She of all people know, is gonna latch onto that,

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Speaker 2: and it's gonna like she's never gonna let it go.

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Speaker 1: And and when she's like, oh, Grandma was cool with it,

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Speaker 2: Right exactly exactly. She made it so much. And then

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Speaker 2: she like drags him into the other room.

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Speaker 1: And that part it was one thing to bring it

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Speaker 2: Well, and the whole Dean thing for me, like we're

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Speaker 2: going totally out of order. But that's okay, I gotta

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Speaker 2: I gotta say this. So the whole Dean thing for

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Speaker 2: because Jess is saying we didn't get in a fight,

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Speaker 2: we didn't get in a fight, we didn't get in

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Speaker 2: a fight, And Rory's like, you're lying, tell me the truth.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe you, and then Dean says exactly the

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Speaker 2: same phrase. Dean says, we didn't get in a fight,

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Speaker 2: and Rory's like, oh okay, like she believed right, she

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Speaker 2: wouldn't believe Jess. But when Dean says exactly the same thing,

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Speaker 2: and then She's like, oh okay, you know, carry on.

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Speaker 2: So I think that kind of that that lack of trust.

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Speaker 2: I mean, their their relationship is pretty much doomed from

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Speaker 2: but she said something about she doesn't trust Jess as

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Speaker 2: much as she trusted Dean, and she said that to Jess.

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Speaker 2: I mean, ye, that says a lot about the future

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Speaker 2: of their relationship. I think, yeah, but yeah, but I

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Speaker 2: thought it was a good episode. I really enjoyed.

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Speaker 1: It was a great episode. It was just yeah, she

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Speaker 1: she bugged me, which is weird because like, I feel

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Speaker 1: like I should have been more like on Rory's side,

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Speaker 1: I was a little bit more like, Okay, Jess is

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Speaker 1: being annoying, but like at least the like give it

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Speaker 1: and also she I feel like she's also searching, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Well, And I feel like she's second guessing the way

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Speaker 2: that it all went down, that she basically broke up

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Speaker 2: with Dean because she checked out of that relationship, you know,

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Speaker 2: trying to see, wait, did I do you know? Did

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Speaker 2: I make a mistake here? Should I have stayed with Dean?

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Speaker 2: So she's almost like looking for something to be wrong

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Speaker 2: I think she's definitely second guessing herself.

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Speaker 1: With that being said, I think Jess was very rude

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Speaker 2: I think Jess was himself.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, just how he is, he kind have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he could have been He definitely could

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Speaker 2: He was kind of snarly, yeah, but you know, he

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Speaker 1: And with a she.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't gonna accept him no matter what, Like he could

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Speaker 2: and it wasn't going to make a difference. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean Jess was Jess.

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Speaker 2: But can I also say as crappy as Rory's behavior

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Speaker 2: was in this episode, her hair was on point. I

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Speaker 2: loved the curly hair. Yeah, I thought it was super

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Speaker 2: cute this entire episode.

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Speaker 1: Ye. Yeah, did you see the clown pillow?

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Speaker 2: I did? Yes, In right right before Alex in the

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Speaker 2: lor life, we kissing on the.

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Speaker 1: Porch, which like so awkward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, that was a little clunky.

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Speaker 1: I know that when we watched this the first time around,

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Speaker 1: I think with Amy we were like, oh, we like

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Speaker 1: this relationship. That makeout scene maybe I don't know what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's so he was in it. So

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Speaker 2: I think we said last time he was only in

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Speaker 2: three episodes and this was I think this was the third. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I feel like we didn't get enough of a chance

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Speaker 2: to really we don't have enough information to go on with.

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Speaker 1: He just started he just kind of like started dating

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Speaker 1: LAURALI Like it wasn't like Max Medina where we had

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Speaker 1: a build up. It's like, oh, okay, they're double dating

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Speaker 1: with going on double dates with Suki and yeah Jackson,

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Speaker 1: and like, okay, he's in the picture. I guess, all right, And.

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Speaker 2: And he comes off a little one dimensional, like he

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Speaker 2: I know he did Twilight, maybe he moved on to.

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Speaker 1: That and Twilight was way after this is two thousand

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Speaker 2: thing when Laurala thought that Dean and Rory spent the

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Speaker 2: she's a senior in high school by now, so I

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Speaker 2: assume that they've already had those conversations. So I didn't

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Speaker 2: think that's what Laura I was saying at all. It wasn't.

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Speaker 2: That's not how I read it as like, hey, let

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Speaker 2: me know so that we can get you on birth control,

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Speaker 2: because Rory said I'm thinking about it, Like that would

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Speaker 2: have been the time right there to be like, okay,

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Speaker 2: you know, let's.

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe that was it she was thinking about it,

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Speaker 1: but maybe it's like when you're ready to go on

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Speaker 1: birth control, let me know, we'll get you worth like

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Speaker 1: without saying it up front. It was a weird way

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Speaker 1: of wording it that could have been. But yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 1: I forgot she's a senior in high school. Senior in

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Speaker 1: high school, people are I'm sorry, people are having sex

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Speaker 1: in like ninth grade.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean look at Laura. She already had

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, like in general, like she doesn't need to

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Speaker 1: eighty percent of the senior classes probably if not done it,

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Speaker 1: they know about it.

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Speaker 2: And I just didn't understand, like because Rory is saying

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Speaker 2: does she need to tell Loralai again when she decides to,

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Speaker 2: Like that is just weird to me.

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Speaker 1: See, I thought I think I was thinking more of

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Speaker 1: like not when she says not right before, like that, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do like making out with your boyfriend?

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Speaker 1: You're gonna call hey mom, it's about to happen. Click,

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Speaker 1: go have sex. Like that's the part where I was like,

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Speaker 1: that's weird. But now that you like, actually we break

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Speaker 1: it down, like yeah, it was weird life She's like.

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Speaker 2: No, don't say right before, but just before. But that's

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Speaker 2: what Rory's doing now, it's before and she's telling her.

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Speaker 1: Is that a way of the network like trying to

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Speaker 1: like not talk about You have to remember this is

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Speaker 1: two thousand and three. Like, I feel like shows now

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Speaker 1: there's a lot more talk about having sex in high school,

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Speaker 1: but in two thousand and three it was kind of

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Speaker 1: and it's a family show.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, we've already talked in season one

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Speaker 2: about her going on the pill.

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Speaker 1: No, I know, but I'm saying about protection. So like

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Speaker 1: I wonder if like and also so if someone's watching

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Speaker 1: season one, I'm sorry, someone's watching season three, it's two

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Speaker 1: years after season one. Yeah, so maybe that maybe the

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Speaker 1: network needed some kind of like if you are having

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Speaker 1: wonder if that's what it was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It was a weird because sometimes networks have a certain

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Speaker 1: say in scripts when it comes I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know everything for sure, but I do know that

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Speaker 1: like when it comes down to that stuff, they can

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Speaker 1: change scripts based on what they do, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, like based on like their their guidelines. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for that show, because if it's also in like you know,

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Speaker 1: if it's a show at eight o'clock, that's going to

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Speaker 1: be different than what's airing in a show at ten o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Right, so it's true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but very weird. I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just a weird interaction. Like I can't

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Speaker 2: imagine having that conversation with my kid. It would be like, hey,

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Speaker 2: you know, if you're thinking about doing this, here's what

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Speaker 2: you need to.

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Speaker 1: Know just tomorrow tomorrow afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not be like tell me. I don't know. It

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Speaker 2: just wasnge.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I get there close, but I don't know

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Speaker 1: if we needed that that moment anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 1: On that note, Uh, next week we're going to be

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Speaker 1: talking about season three, episode fifteen, face Off. We'll see

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Speaker 1: next week.

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Speaker 2: Meeting adjourned. Hey, everybody, don't forget Follow us on Instagram,

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