1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: Al Zone Media. 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: Book Club book Club book Club book Club. Hello and 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: welcome to the Coolzone Media book Club rerun edition. It's 4 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 2: the Cool Zone Media book Club, the only book club. 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: You don't have to do the reading because I, Margaret 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: Kiljoy do it for you. And it's a rerun episode 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: because I'm on the road and terrible things are happening. 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: Not on the road specifically, but I'm on tour, and 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: also an election went badly, and so I didn't record 10 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: a new episode. But I thought to myself, you know 11 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: what episode has been a while since people heard, and 12 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: actually it predates Coolzone Media book Club. It's part of 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: the precursor to Coolzone Media book Club. When I would 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: just come on and read stories on it could happen here. Well, 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: I thought I would read a story called the Northern Host, 16 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: which is actually most people call it my no Nazis 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: in Valhalla story. And that's fine because for some weird reason, 18 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 2: a lot of people are thinking about what the civil 19 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: conflict in the United States might look like, and so 20 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: what a good time to tell you a story about 21 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: the Battle of Asheville as fought by some ghosts. Here's 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 2: the story. Well, here's me introducing the story again because 23 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 2: I don't know what's about to happen. I'm just this 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: is the introduction to a rerun episode. Here it goes, It's. 25 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: All right, I did it, Sophy, I'm done for the day, Okay, 26 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 3: taking the rest off by It's okay. 27 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: We have a cooler replacement for you today. Anyways, we 28 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: sure do. 29 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: Uh So, you know, normally this is a show about collapse, 30 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: all that good stuff, YadA, YadA YadA, but fuck it, 31 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: it's Halloween week. So we're we're we're we're we're making 32 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: sure all of our stuff has a little bit of 33 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: an extra spooky twist. It's like when you make a 34 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: martini and you decide to actually put vermouth inside it, 35 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: as opposed to just kind of waving it nearby. That's 36 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: what we're doing this week, with spookiness being the vermouth 37 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: and mixing up our martini. Today is Margaret Kiljoy. 38 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 4: Margaret Hello, Hello, I'm a famous mixologist, so literally this 39 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 4: will be very good. 40 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: Now, Margaret, Today, for this very special episode of it 41 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: could happen here on Spooky Week. You have written us, well, 42 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 3: you've written a short story, and you're going to read 43 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 3: it and and and we're all gonna enjoy it? Is 44 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: that is that accurate? 45 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 4: I hope at least I can. I can testify to 46 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 4: the first parts, and I hope for the last part. 47 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: Excellent. All right, well with without further ado or with 48 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 3: minimal further ado. Let's uh, let's let's let's you know, 49 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: with the stuff, with the stuff, Margaret with the stuff. 50 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 4: Well, and this is great because this is actually a 51 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 4: short story that you start reading of. 52 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: Oh shit, yeah, where's that link? You tasted it to me, 53 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: but I don't have my phone on me. 54 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 4: Okay, let me put it in the chat here. 55 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: Based impressive, to say the least. 56 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 3: Based in fiction, pilled. Okay, I start reading the italics. 57 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the first couple paragraphs of introduction, and then 58 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 4: you're interviewing me. 59 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: All right, motherfuckers, let's get it started. The Northern Host 60 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: for all it's lingering horror and misery. The wake of 61 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: a war is rich terragn for a folklorist like myself. 62 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: More people report more supernatural experiences during times of war 63 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: than times of peace. Some of my peers have argued 64 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: the stress and shock of battle leaves our brains more 65 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: susceptible to mass illusion. Others claim that the veil between 66 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: worlds remains thin when so many are passing from life 67 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: to death. The Second American Civil War has been no exception. 68 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 3: Most famously, of course, soldiers from each of the three 69 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 3: armies present at the fifteen day Siege of Saint Louis 70 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 3: reported a wailing man who walked among the wounded, healing 71 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: some and ending the lives of others. On the Cascadian Front, 72 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: rebel forces spoke of black bears, who in effect stood 73 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 3: sentry for their guerrilla positions. During the White Army's occupation 74 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: of Washington, d C. Civilians and soldiers alike reported apparitions 75 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 3: pouring out from the Pentagon Crater every new moon. Of 76 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 3: all the various myths and legends to spring up in 77 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: the wake of the recent conflict, however, I find myself 78 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: most strongly drawn to the stories of the Northern host. 79 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: Never have I heard a myth recounted in such detail 80 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 3: by such a wide variety of people. My favorite telling 81 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: comes from Private Sarah Dollar in the Battle of Asheville. 82 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: This interview was recorded in the spring of twenty thirty 83 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: five and lightly edited for clarity with permission of the subject. 84 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: Note that the subject refers to the White Army by 85 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 3: pejoratives throughout these have been left intact for the historical record. 86 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: Could you introduce yourself and tell me what you saw. 87 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, my name is Sarah Daher. I'm thirty one years old. 88 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 4: I live in Ashville, in the Appalachian region of the 89 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 4: United States of America, on stolen Cherokee Land. My US 90 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 4: military rank was private. They made us all privates when 91 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 4: they incorporated the Irregulars into the army, but I only 92 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 4: served in the Union to fight the White Army a 93 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 4: year later. I'm one of those crazy radicals who doesn't 94 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 4: think the reconfiguration goes far enough. I'd never fired a 95 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 4: gun in my life before the Irregulars, and I hope 96 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 4: I never fire another one again. By temperament, I'm neither 97 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 4: a lover nor a fighter. I'm just your average trans 98 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 4: girl who likes Kats and hates Nazis. I fought in 99 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 4: three engagements in Weaverville, Leicester, and Asheville. I think I 100 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 4: killed two. 101 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: One of them. 102 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 4: I know I killed him. I saw him bleed out 103 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 4: and I saw him taken away in a black bag. 104 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 4: The other person was a man I shot in the 105 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 4: thigh during the Battle of Ashville. I didn't know you 106 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 4: could die from a bullet in the thigh, But I've 107 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 4: spent a lot of time looking at casualty records, and 108 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 4: someone who fit that man's general description died in that 109 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 4: battle from a bullet to the thigh. 110 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 3: Does that bother you? Yes? 111 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 4: No, I don't know. I don't lose sleep over it, 112 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 4: but I think about it a lot. I look at 113 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 4: the docks on both of them. The first guy was 114 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 4: a true believer, a real blood and soil type. It 115 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 4: doesn't bother me that I mingled those two things for him. 116 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 4: The second man, though, I'm not so sure, he signed 117 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 4: up because his son signed up. I don't have any 118 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 4: kids myself, but I could see myself doing that. His 119 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 4: son survived the war. 120 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: Have you been in contact with his son? 121 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 4: No? Fuck that guy. That kid's a fucking Nazi, and 122 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 4: I don't know how he talked his way out of 123 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 4: the tribunals. 124 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 3: Can you tell me what you saw at the Battle 125 00:06:58,600 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: of Asheville. 126 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 4: This was during the Fascist Spring Offensive last year. You 127 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 4: know Hitler's birthday, April twentieth. By that point, the White 128 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 4: Army was pretty much done, but they weren't about to 129 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 4: go down without doing some major symbolic damage. So there 130 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 4: were about forty of us, all irregulars, with our own commanders, 131 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 4: no army oversight. Morale was down. We felt pretty abandoned, 132 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 4: common sentiment in the South. I was on the street 133 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 4: out in front of the library, walking rounds. Downtown was 134 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 4: half rubble at that point. Only the library was standing, 135 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 4: because symbols matter and all that bullshit, So that's where 136 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: we were making a stand. Neither side had artillery. Really, 137 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 4: by that point, the brass had just commandeered even our 138 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 4: RPGs for the quote real fight. Air support wasn't coming, 139 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 4: not for them and not for us. Really, the Battle 140 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 4: of Asheville was like nothing to the rest of the world, 141 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: and we knew it. So I was doing the rounds 142 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 4: thinking about my shit luck, thinking maybe I was going 143 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 4: to die, and how so many people had died, and 144 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 4: what's another dead girl to add to the pile. I 145 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 4: was thinking about how at least this dead girls going 146 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 4: to die surrounded by or in defense of books. Then 147 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 4: I heard dogs from around the side of the building. 148 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 4: One barked loud and near, the other sort of distant 149 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: and echoey. I went to check it out, turned the 150 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: corner and there was this naked guy. He was pale 151 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 4: as hell, tall, tattooed and scarred, and like I said, 152 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: he was naked as the sun. I stared at him, 153 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 4: he stared at me. I got so distracted trying to 154 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 4: figure him out that it took me a moment to 155 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 4: realize there were nine others behind him, or maybe they 156 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 4: weren't there at first, I don't know. Most of them 157 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 4: were men, mostly of the tall Norse looking variety, but 158 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 4: there was a Middle Eastern man and three women, including 159 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 4: one who by my read was Latin X No dogs 160 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 4: anywhere that I could see. The man closest to me 161 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 4: he asked me something in a language I didn't know. 162 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 4: I just kind of stared. He asked me another question 163 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 4: in another language. What I asked? 164 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: Who are you? 165 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 4: Who are we fighting? He asked? His accent was thick, 166 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 4: and I couldn't place it for the life of me. 167 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 4: I mean, I know now, but I'm sure shit didn't 168 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 4: know it then we I asked what I was due 169 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 4: back out front, because I was a century doing the 170 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,599 Speaker 4: rounds and this sure needed reporting. What the hell was 171 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 4: I going to tell people? Who are we fighting? Where 172 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 4: are we You're in Asheville? Who are you ah the 173 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 4: American conflict, the man said behind him, others nodded. Their 174 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 4: movements were sloppy, dream like they were drunk. I later 175 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 4: realized one of them had dried blood running down from 176 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 4: her lip onto her not insubstantial belly. You're fighting the nationalists, 177 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 4: the first one said, We're here to help you. Who 178 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 4: are you, I asked this third time he actually answered, 179 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 4: my name is Bellgear. 180 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 5: We are the dead. 181 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 4: We are the ainhear from Valhalla. Every day we are 182 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 4: sent to a battle to fight, and we die. The 183 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 4: others behind him nodded, definitely drunk. Now, I know there 184 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 4: were good folks on our side who were into European paganism, 185 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 4: but you have to understand that a lot more of 186 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 4: the fashion were into that shit than anybody else. If 187 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 4: they hadn't been naked and drunk, I might have mistaken 188 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 4: them for the enemy and shot them. Valhalla, I said, 189 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 4: reciting the tiny bit. I knew that's where vikings go 190 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 4: if they die in battle, feast every day and fight 191 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 4: every night in Odin's Hall until the end of the world, 192 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 4: where you like also fight and die. But uh wolf 193 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 4: feeds the sun or something close enough, Belgar said. I mean, 194 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 4: Odin only gets half the battle dead, and Viking isn't 195 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: a good name for us. But sure, and you're here 196 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 4: because we are to take arms alongside you, fight your 197 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 4: enemies and die today. Am I going to die today? 198 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 4: Only the seers and the gods know that. I'd been 199 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 4: calling myself a witch half my life, but honestly that 200 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 4: was mostly because I like tarot and astrology and panagrams 201 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 4: and shit. I've never been someone who took the supernatural 202 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 4: all that seriously. But nothing in the world made sense 203 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 4: like it used to. Fascists had just been driven out 204 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 4: of DC. Cascadia had not only succeeded, but was an 205 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 4: civil war of its own now. Mexico was gone and 206 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 4: replaced by self governing states of almost every stripe in 207 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 4: the political rainbow. China had backed white supremacists and other 208 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 4: nationalist types in an American civil war, and anti government 209 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 4: leftists were fighting alongside weirdos like me in the damn 210 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 4: US Army. I can't say those things were as weird 211 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 4: as naked dead don't call us vikings talking to me 212 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 4: in the street. But somehow all of that was just 213 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 4: comparably bizarre. Come let us arm ourselves and fight together. 214 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: You and I belgar said, So that's how I met 215 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 4: the Northern Host. Most people don't believe me, assume it 216 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 4: was just some kind of drunk wing nuts, maybe some 217 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 4: irregulars I'd never met before. But I saw what I saw, 218 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 4: and I believe it. The rest of us who survived 219 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 4: they saw it too. 220 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 3: And how did it go? Yeah? Pardon the battle? How 221 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 3: did it go? 222 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 4: We got the einherar into irregular's garb and armed them. 223 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 4: There were plenty of guns at that point in the 224 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 4: forgotten hell hole. Afront bullets not so much, but plenty 225 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 4: of guns. They were all comfortable with firearms, though one 226 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 4: fellow groused about what he wouldn't do for an axe 227 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 4: and shield, and another said what we had was fine, 228 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 4: but monofilament web guns were better than any combat shotgun. 229 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 4: To hear them, tell it. Fuck it? Why am I 230 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 4: pretending like I don't believe them. I believe them with 231 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 4: every bit of my soul, And damn what people think 232 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 4: of me for it. The Northern Host fight every night, 233 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 4: and every night there in a different time and place 234 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 4: most battles in human history were in the past, they said, 235 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 4: which sounds optimistic, doesn't it? But they said they fought 236 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 4: in every century up to the twenty fourth. Nothing happens 237 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 4: after the twenty fourth century. Ragnarok most likely the end 238 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 4: of the world, wolves eating the sun and the moon. 239 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: All that. 240 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 4: They stood guard out with me out front. Around midday 241 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 4: we got hit with an EMP. We knew that was coming. 242 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 4: It didn't screw us up much. We had a hardened 243 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 4: phone in the basement, and all our weapons operated just 244 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 4: as well in dumb mode as smart mode, including our 245 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 4: own EMPs. The White Army showed up, maybe a hundred men, 246 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 4: all men. That's their whole shtick. They came in on motorcycles, 247 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 4: ATVs and horses. More shtick like how fucking folksy they are. 248 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 4: We hit them with the EMPs anyway, level the field, 249 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 4: took out the ATVs. The bikes were retrofitted, no electric. 250 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: And a horse. 251 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 4: You can't e MP a horse. I don't know if 252 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 4: there was a skirmish in that war that didn't start 253 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 4: with both sides ritually knocking the other one. Back to 254 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 4: basically the twentieth century. I think the tactical EMP is 255 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 4: the reason there's anything left of this country. We took 256 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 4: a few pot shots while they were still at range, 257 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 4: but we didn't have the amo to waste on anything else. 258 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 4: Don't think we did any damage. They took up position 259 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 4: further up the hill in the ruins of the old Basilica. 260 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 4: Then we waited. We should have mined the church. That 261 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 4: old thing was blown half to shit anyway. It wouldn't 262 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 4: have made the world any worse if we'd either leveled 263 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 4: it or hidden explosives throughout. But you know, ethical war 264 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 4: or whatever, don't mind churches. The other side leveled every mosque, 265 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 4: synagogue and quote heretic church they got their hands on, 266 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 4: not to mention libraries in universities, and even the goddamn 267 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 4: Statue of Liberty because they had imigrants. But we were 268 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 4: supposed to be fighting a quote ethical war. Those two 269 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 4: words don't got nothing to do with one another, and 270 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 4: everyone knows it. So they hold up in the basilica, 271 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 4: and we pulled back into the library and we had 272 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 4: one of those good old fashioned standoffs where people die 273 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 4: slowly from sniper fire and everything is awful. That's when 274 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 4: Laura got shot right in the head because we missed 275 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 4: a spot when we bulletproofed the facade. She's dead. She 276 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 4: had natural red hair, but she always died at Redder 277 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 4: and her favorite show is Buffy the Vampire Slayer and 278 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 4: she liked to drink water out of long stem glasses. 279 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 4: She was I think she was thirty seven, way past 280 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 4: drafting age. She volunteered. It was her first engagement. She 281 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 4: was only there because she loved books, had plenty of 282 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 4: time to avoid looking at her corpse while she was 283 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 4: in there with us dead. Dwight was another one of 284 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 4: my friends in the unit, one of my favorite people, 285 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 4: hands down, total weirdo, and he was all obsessed with 286 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 4: that Viking shit and dark ages in general, as parents 287 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 4: had come over from Sweden, though his dad was originally 288 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 4: from Nigeria. Dwight had one degree in medieval studies and 289 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 4: another in African history, and I can't tell you how 290 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 4: many times during basic he'd run down the details of 291 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 4: this or that ancient battle, whether in Europe or Africa. 292 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 4: If there were guns involved, he didn't care about it, 293 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 4: but if there were swords and armor or spears and shields, 294 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 4: he was all in. He started talking to the Vikings 295 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 4: first thing. He was the first person to believe them, 296 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 4: to really believe them, and his faith was contagious. While 297 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 4: we were pinned down. He asked them everything. Mostly they 298 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 4: were quiet, even taciturn, but there was one thing they 299 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 4: were very insistent on that I overheard them talking about. 300 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 4: Nazis don't go to Valhalla. But why not? Dwight asked, 301 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 4: It takes two things to go to Valhalla. The spokesperson said, 302 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 4: you have to die in battle, and you have to 303 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 4: venerate Odin. A bunch of those fuckers are Odina's, He said, no, 304 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 4: they aren't. They're nationalists, fascists, racial separatists, They're all kinds 305 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 4: of things, but they don't venerate Odin. Whatever they think, 306 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 4: what do you mean? They only know one half of Odin. 307 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 4: They know the masculine side, the heterosexual side, the Christian side. 308 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 4: They worship a bastardization of our God, a basstardization first 309 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 4: created by a nationalist Christian eight hundred years ago that's 310 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 4: only gotten further afield since our Odin practices women's magic, 311 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 4: the magic of these sexually penetrated. We also worship female 312 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 4: gods of war, and male gods of the hearth, and 313 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 4: gods who change their gender when they're bored. Nazis don't 314 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 4: understand that any of it. In life, we raided sometimes traded. 315 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 4: Other times, we also did all sorts of things that 316 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 4: won't fit your modern sensibilities, things that were I alive, 317 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 4: you might kill me for. But we're not Nazis, and 318 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 4: people who worship a Christian version of our God most 319 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: certainly do not go to Valhalla. It was as if 320 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 4: the man had used up every word allotted to him 321 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 4: for the day, because I don't believe a one of 322 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 4: them spoke again before the battle began in. 323 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: Earnest And how long was that. 324 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 4: Another hour? Maybe the sun was still right overhead when 325 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 4: the White army rushed us. It was a bullshit move, 326 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 4: rushing us one part over confidence in one part desperation. 327 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 4: If you can imagine that they knew they were losing 328 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 4: the war at that point, but they had us more 329 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 4: than two to one, and we all know the KKK 330 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 4: commanders don't give two shits about the lives of their men. 331 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 4: That's when I put a bullet in a man's leg 332 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 4: while he was in the street running. It was a 333 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 4: good shot. He was running, and I led the target 334 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 4: and everything I've been aiming for center body masks, but 335 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 4: still at least one hundred yards against a moving target. 336 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 4: I was proud of that shot at the time on 337 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 4: a technical level, even if I'm not sure I'm proud 338 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 4: of it anymore now that I know the man's name. 339 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 4: We expected the charge. What we didn't expect was the 340 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 4: ordinance that knocked the reinforced front off its hinges. But 341 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 4: that happened, and almost all the fighting happened right there 342 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 4: on the first floor among the empty shelves. The whole 343 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 4: thing felt like it lasted half an hour. I've looked 344 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 4: it up since, from the time of the first blast 345 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 4: at the time the last shot was fired, talking about 346 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 4: three minutes and twelve seconds. We thought they were going 347 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 4: to pour in through the door after they blew it 348 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 4: the fuck off. So James got in there with our 349 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 4: one functioning automatic and he took at least ten of 350 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 4: the fash down with him before someone got him in 351 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 4: the neck. It was a faint and they blew a 352 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 4: hole in the side. 353 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:16,479 Speaker 3: Of the building. 354 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 4: Well, well that was going on, and that's where they 355 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 4: got in close quarters. Combat is a whole different beast, 356 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 4: a worse one, maybe maybe a better one. I go 357 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 4: back on forth on that. Sometimes instead of sleeping, I 358 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 4: think about the pros and cons of various types of 359 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 4: absolute horror. Is it better to see your death coming 360 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 4: or to get picked off without knowing it? I would 361 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 4: have thought the Vikings would expend themselves right off. I 362 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 4: mean Vikings. They were starting to sober up by that point, 363 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 4: but still they'd been drinking, and they were already dead, 364 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,479 Speaker 4: and they were doomed to die. But they were smarter 365 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 4: than that. Never risk themselves unnecessarily. Your next assumption of 366 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 4: a comrade you know is doomed is that they'll sacrifice 367 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 4: themselves to save others. None of that either. They knew 368 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 4: they were the best trained soldiers on the feet, and 369 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 4: that in order for us to win, they had to 370 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 4: be in the fight as long as they could. They 371 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 4: were smart like that. Assholes like that. I stationed myself 372 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 4: in the back. I fancy myself more of a sniper 373 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 4: than the assaults sort, so I watched the whole thing 374 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 4: go down. I also only hit three targets out of 375 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 4: one hundred and seventeen bullets I fired. But that's another story. 376 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 4: I watched us win. We took casualties of fifty percent, 377 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 4: half of those were KIA, but we defeated a force 378 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 4: twice our strength. I watched the einhear, but bayonet men 379 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 4: and shoot them. And I saw one of the Viking 380 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 4: women break a man's face apart with her fists. Soon after, 381 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 4: a bullet found her heart and she collapsed with a 382 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 4: smile on her lips. She disappeared, like literally she phased 383 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 4: out of existence. Beam me up, Scottie. We pushed them 384 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 4: back onto the pavement. And when I say we, I'm 385 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 4: honestly not being fair because I didn't do much of 386 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 4: it myself. We had them scattered and running, most of them. 387 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 4: Dwight was out there waving a pistol in one hand 388 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 4: and swinging a wooden stock right like a club in 389 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 4: the other. A Viking with a shotgun stood beside him. 390 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 4: I think the same fascy little shit killed them both, 391 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 4: maybe in the same three round burst. I tagged the 392 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 4: Fasci in his belly, and his friends helped him get away, 393 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 4: and the remaining Nazis ran. He survived his wound. Why 394 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 4: do we have so much information about the war? Does 395 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 4: it do me any good to know who I killed 396 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 4: and who I didn't? 397 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 3: And Dwight? 398 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 4: Dwight lay alone in the concrete, face down. There wasn't 399 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 4: much blood, but he was dead. Two ravens sat atop him, 400 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 4: one on each shoulder. I've never seen a raven in 401 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 4: Asheville in my life, not before, not since. There were 402 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 4: two of them, as big as people say those things are. 403 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 4: They barked and they sounded like dogs. One was loud, 404 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 4: like it was right where I was. The other was distant, echoing. 405 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 4: Then they flew away, directly up and towards the sun, 406 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 4: and I tried to watch to see where they went, 407 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 4: but you can't look directly at the sun like that. 408 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 4: I looked back down and Dwight was gone. Okay, so 409 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 4: his body was still there, but there was there was 410 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 4: something about him that was gone, and I don't know 411 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 4: how to tell you what it was. That was that 412 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 4: we won sort of. They didn't storm the library, which 413 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 4: I guess means we won. But sometimes I'd think I'd 414 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 4: burn every single book in that place that would bring 415 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 4: back Lare or Dwight or any of the rest of 416 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 4: my friends. The war was over at that point, even 417 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 4: if we didn't know it yet. So what did they 418 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 4: die for? I guess for symbols. Maybe symbols matter that much. 419 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. 420 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 4: I deserted after that. Half the survivors of the Battle 421 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 4: of Asheville died less than a week later up in Pittsburgh. 422 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 4: And I suppose I'd be dead if i'd gone, And 423 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 4: it probably makes me a coward that I didn't. It's 424 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 4: not that I was afraid of dying. It's that I 425 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 4: was afraid of dying in battle because I believe in 426 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 4: Odin now it's hard not to believe in a god 427 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 4: without venerating him. I don't want to go to Valhalla. 428 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 4: I don't want to fight ever again, let alone every night. 429 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 4: I don't want to serve with the iron and they 430 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 4: are at the twilight of the gods sometime in the 431 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 4: twenty fifth century. If I don't want to do that, 432 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 4: then I don't want to die in battle. Dwight, though 433 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 4: I expect he's happy. I expect he dies every day 434 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 4: with a smile on his lips and meat and his belly. 435 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 4: He won't have to fight alongside the monsters of the 436 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 4: human race either, because, as I learned in Nashville, Nazis 437 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 4: don't go to Valhalla. 438 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 3: All right, that was awesome, Margaret, thank you, Yeah, thanks. 439 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: Stan'll put a bunch of applause noise here because this 440 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: is not translating over. 441 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and and and uh, an airhorn. 442 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 5: Definitely an. I don't think the air horn is going 443 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 5: to be that as. 444 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 3: Nope, Garrison airhorn. Thank you, Thank you, Garrison. Margaret. How 445 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: how long did you write that? 446 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 4: I wrote that I believe in twenty seventeen, maybe twenty eighteen. 447 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,239 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well it's not gotten less relevant. 448 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I uh, there's definitely some times where I've 449 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 3: wished for a platoon of vikings, yeah, to deal with 450 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 3: some shit. 451 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 5: Yeah. 452 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 3: Well this has been it could happen here and this 453 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 3: has been spooky week. I hope you enjoyed this scary 454 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 3: story that's also relevant to our theme of collapse. Margaret, 455 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 3: you want to tell the people where they can find you. 456 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm on Twitter at Magpie Killjoy. I'm on Instagram 457 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 4: at Margaret Kiljoy. I'm on Patreon at patreon dot com 458 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 4: slash Margaret Kiljoy, where this story and many other stories 459 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 4: are available for anyone who sponsors me at a dollar 460 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 4: a month. And if you make less money than I do, 461 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 4: then just message me and I'll give you all my 462 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 4: ship for free. And I have an upcome because you've 463 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 4: asked me to plug things and I'm definitely just gonna 464 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 4: ahead and plug things Hell yeah, I have a book 465 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 4: coming out from AKA Press. It's a reissue of my 466 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 4: anarchist yutopian book A Country of Ghosts. If you like 467 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 4: my very I like writing war stories, but I specifically 468 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 4: like writing war stories that are actually sad and how 469 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 4: about how war is horrible? And so A Country of 470 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 4: Ghosts is such a book and this story will eventually. 471 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 4: I'm excited to say I just signed a contract for 472 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 4: AK Press is going to put out a short story 473 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 4: anthology of mine, which will include the story. 474 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, that sounds incredibly rad. 475 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 3: Yes, great publisher. Yeah, not biased at all of that. 476 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 4: No, no, no, nor towards stories of the Second American 477 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 4: Civil War with never heard of. 478 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 3: Characters I've been introduced to just today. Yes, all right, 479 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 3: we'll check out Margaret's book Parentheses, s uh and and 480 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 3: check out this show when and it comes back someday 481 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: one day. 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