WEBVTT - Pod Meets World: TGI- The BMW DNA!

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever thought about how incredibly complex I spit is.

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<v Speaker 1>It may only be water, but just aliva isn't simple.

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<v Speaker 1>That remaining one holds incredibly meaningful information that could change everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not just talking about your family treat Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Barrett to day Thurston, and on this season of

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<v Speaker 1>Spit and I Heart Radio podcast with twenty three and Me,

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<v Speaker 1>we explore how DNA isn't just about ancestry, it can

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<v Speaker 1>also be key to understanding your health. Hey, you, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back for today's show. We've got all the nineties nostalgia

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<v Speaker 1>you can handle, but going back to the days of

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<v Speaker 1>T G I F and hanging with the cast of

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<v Speaker 1>the iconic sitcom Boy Meets World. Danielle Fishel Rider, Strong,

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<v Speaker 1>Will Fred dell Or as you might remember them to Panga,

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<v Speaker 1>Seawan and Eric are the host of pod meets World,

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast dedicated to revisiting the show one episode at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. But today the gang has taken a break

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<v Speaker 1>from their rewatch to talk about their experience with twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three and Me and what they learned from their health

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<v Speaker 1>and ancestry reports. Danielle, Writer, and Will are all blown

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<v Speaker 1>away by the amount of information contained in their reports,

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<v Speaker 1>and each one of them is walking away with steps

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<v Speaker 1>to better themselves. It's almost like an episode of their

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<v Speaker 1>role show. For Writer, his DNA showed a likelihood of

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<v Speaker 1>increased anxiety, something he's dealt with for some time. Seeing

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<v Speaker 1>it actually show up in his report has inspired him

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<v Speaker 1>to exercise more, a proven way to lower stress. For Danielle,

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<v Speaker 1>it was learning she was at risk for type two diabetes.

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<v Speaker 1>Having that information top of mind will make her think

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<v Speaker 1>twice next time she's going for her beloved candy or

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<v Speaker 1>her next fast food fixed. And for will Well, information

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<v Speaker 1>about his ancestry has inspired him to ask his parents

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<v Speaker 1>some more questions. Just like to Panga, Sean and Eric, Danielle, Writer,

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<v Speaker 1>and will are looking to learn from their experience is

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<v Speaker 1>better themselves and grow as adults. Let's listen in and

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<v Speaker 1>hear how twenty three and Me's helping them make that happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to a special episode of Pod Meets World. This

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<v Speaker 1>episode is brought to you by twenty three and Me,

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<v Speaker 1>which you guys have heard us now over almost an

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<v Speaker 1>entire season of Boy Meets World talking a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>our background actors and how important they were to the

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<v Speaker 1>feel of the show to our set environment, how we

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<v Speaker 1>were friends with a lot of them. I'm gonna start

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<v Speaker 1>right off by saying, spoiler alert, there is no Dusty

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<v Speaker 1>in this episode. I'm really bummed about it. We have

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<v Speaker 1>been on a on a worldwide search for Dusty Gould

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<v Speaker 1>see Valley either. Yeah, we haven't heard from see me.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way that came up. You called her see

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<v Speaker 1>me to her face, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, she knew

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<v Speaker 1>her name was see Me. Well, yeah it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the people thought that it was like a behind

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<v Speaker 1>her back sort of thing. Oh my gosh, yeah no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think there was something a little mean

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<v Speaker 1>about it at first, but then it just became that's

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<v Speaker 1>the problem. We don't remember her name because we always

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<v Speaker 1>called her see Me and she responded to it like

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we did. Um. It was just because it

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<v Speaker 1>was the first week of the first season that we

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<v Speaker 1>asked her where she was from and she said, see

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<v Speaker 1>me Valley and um, so we were just like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, you're so you're a Valley girl. We'll call

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<v Speaker 1>you see me. Um. But yeah, I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to her. Yeah, and Dusty, we're still on a hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>so you never know, but we are going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to a few of our other background actors today because

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<v Speaker 1>it is very important for us and everyone to know

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<v Speaker 1>your back ground, speaking of which I am coming to

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<v Speaker 1>you today. So sleep deprived, and I guess it's really

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<v Speaker 1>come to my attention through my twenty three and me

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<v Speaker 1>results that I am less likely to be a deep sleeper,

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<v Speaker 1>which are you? Isn't that what it said? Yes? I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think we can say this from your genes.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it cool? By the way, another thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>think is amazing is that it tells me I am

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<v Speaker 1>most I am more likely to be photo sensitive, which

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<v Speaker 1>means I might sneeze when looking at the sun. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I tell you I have never once walked into

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<v Speaker 1>the sun and not sneezed, it's the exact same way.

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't see that. Where did this say that?

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of your so much to read. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like like i'ven't explored all all the ins and out

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<v Speaker 1>And that's really That's the really cool thing is that

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<v Speaker 1>there are so many different reports and some of them

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<v Speaker 1>are just really fun, like finding out you're more likely

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<v Speaker 1>to be photo sensitive. I'm also so more likely to

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<v Speaker 1>drink more caffeine than most, and that checks right off right.

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<v Speaker 1>You probably have that too. I'm less likely to drink

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<v Speaker 1>caffeine than most, and I drink no caffeine. I have

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<v Speaker 1>no caffeine in my life whatsoever. And it says I'm

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<v Speaker 1>less like and I am not likely to be an

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<v Speaker 1>especially deep sleeper. I still don't get you. We were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about delta ways or something. Now as I heard

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<v Speaker 1>what you're explaining to me, Danielle, I'm a superhero, did

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<v Speaker 1>you Did you explain it wrong? That's what's said, Uh, superhuman?

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<v Speaker 1>You have mediclorians or whatever it is, that you're a Jedi. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, let's not's that's it's in my jeans though,

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<v Speaker 1>that apparently due to my sleep patterns. That's because of

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<v Speaker 1>the underwear. That's because of the underwear. That too, The

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<v Speaker 1>underwear just makes me lucky twenty three and me is

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<v Speaker 1>telling me I'm a weak hold on. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>ancestry just really quick. Did you guys learn anything new

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<v Speaker 1>or yeah? I totally did. So what what was what

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<v Speaker 1>was the story that your family told you and the

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<v Speaker 1>reality of your Well, it's not that my family told

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<v Speaker 1>me something that was just we just heard that we

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<v Speaker 1>were Dutch and Irish and German primarily. Um, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I knew. And it come came out that I am

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<v Speaker 1>almost Jewish. Nice, I am nine ash can Nazi Jewish. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>and you didn't know that, no idea whatsoever. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course then when I said that to my my parents,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad was like, well, of course my great grandfather

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<v Speaker 1>was jew or something where we were like, well, why

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<v Speaker 1>didn't anybody tell about that? Yeah? You know, so that

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<v Speaker 1>was completely I'm I'm I'm nine point eight percent European

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<v Speaker 1>and it's mostly northwestern European, so British and Irish. What

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<v Speaker 1>we thought, Um, lots of Irish, lots of lots of British,

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<v Speaker 1>but eighteen point seven percent as ashke Nazi Jewish. So

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<v Speaker 1>no no idea, no idea whatsoever. I was shocked. Writer,

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<v Speaker 1>did you learn anything in yours about specifically about health,

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<v Speaker 1>anything you're more likely to have or not have? Oh? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it nailed me. In three categories. It said, I am

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<v Speaker 1>most likely to I am most likely to have restless

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<v Speaker 1>legs restless leg syndrome, which I've had all of my

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<v Speaker 1>life and just had to deal with. More likely for

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<v Speaker 1>increased anxiety, check and severe acne which you guys couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>remember from when I was on I had severe acne. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so did my dad. I remember when I when

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when I started breaking out during boy MEA's work.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it A little bit later. I got it

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<v Speaker 1>more like at fifteen fourteen fifteen, um, when I had

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<v Speaker 1>the really bad acne. So we haven't gotten to it

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, but well we'll start to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to see the the amount of makeup they had a

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<v Speaker 1>cake on my face. It was the worst, the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, knowing this then about your your d n

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<v Speaker 1>A makeup now that like, is there something now you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to change about your life? Will you talk to

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<v Speaker 1>your doctor about restless leg syndrome? Is there anything or

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<v Speaker 1>do you take anything for anxiety? Will you start? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Well no, The anxiety thing is really interesting because, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never really thought of myself as as an anxious person. Um, like,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when I was a kid, I was not an

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<v Speaker 1>anxious kid. Um, But I do. I have noticed lately

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<v Speaker 1>that like I need to exercise, Um, it's hugely important anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I realized is like if I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>the only the way I manage anxiety and I put

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<v Speaker 1>that in air quotes would be like drink alcohol and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the worst thing you can do to manage anxiety. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And especially like during the pandemic, there were

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<v Speaker 1>there's these these periods where like there would be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not working, you're not taking your kids to school,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's sitting at home. It would be like, well, why

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<v Speaker 1>is the day over? Why is it? You know? How

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<v Speaker 1>do we know the days over? We have a glass

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<v Speaker 1>of wine and then you know, and we just got

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<v Speaker 1>into the habit of like, oh, that's just it's five

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock time to drink um. So I definitely only think

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<v Speaker 1>that like being able to recognize that there's in a

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<v Speaker 1>genetic component to like the feelings I have of anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>and that it might just be part of my body

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<v Speaker 1>makes me remember to just move my body to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with it in terms of my body, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>thinking like, oh, there's something wrong, I need to like,

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<v Speaker 1>uh change you know the way I think, or no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just part of my body. Is that I get

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<v Speaker 1>these feelings that other people might not have, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that that and I don't need to associate it with

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<v Speaker 1>like necessarily things I'm I'm I've done wrong or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't want to. I just don't. I basically

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<v Speaker 1>it allows me to contextualize my anxiety and recognize it

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<v Speaker 1>as like it mostly physical thing, like something that is

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, I'm born with and that I just

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<v Speaker 1>have to contend with and it's and you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>just have to find healthy ways to contend with it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know that I'm anxiety boy, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was hit with this very bad during during Boy. Me

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<v Speaker 1>thrilled like very during Boy. So then you'll see during

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<v Speaker 1>the episodes, you know, the seasons where I come back

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm really heavy, and it's because I was medicated

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<v Speaker 1>to even record. And the things I always tell people

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<v Speaker 1>now that I've been dealing with it for so long

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<v Speaker 1>is the three most important things for me that help

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<v Speaker 1>more than anything are talking about it, diet and exercise

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<v Speaker 1>and getting off of social media. And the first two

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<v Speaker 1>people are like, I can easily do that, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, I'm not gonna get off social media.

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<v Speaker 1>I need it for work. What what do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>I work at a bank. Okay, you don't need your

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<v Speaker 1>social media. You're just addicted to it. But it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>those three things where moving your body exactly what you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying is just so unbelievably important. And it is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all genetic. I mean, I found out other people in

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<v Speaker 1>my family down the line. They might not have called

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<v Speaker 1>it that at the time. They might have said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the fifties they had spells or whatever because they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know how to how to diagnose it. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>all that it was was it is, it's genetic anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>And and but that's one of the things about the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three and me that was so amazing is those

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<v Speaker 1>little markers. For instance, that what it says when I

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<v Speaker 1>looked at the thing, your average wake up time, judging

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<v Speaker 1>by your genetics, is seven AM. And that's like almost

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<v Speaker 1>exactly every morning when I roll out of bed. Whoa

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<v Speaker 1>literally literally almost exactly every morning. Susan gets up before

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<v Speaker 1>me because she's got early clients. I doze in bed,

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<v Speaker 1>and by about seven forty to seven fifty I'm up

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<v Speaker 1>and out. And when so when this thing comes out

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<v Speaker 1>and it says it's seven forty am, I'm going You've

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<v Speaker 1>got to be kidding me. How is that even possible? So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>some of these things are some of them I gotta say.

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<v Speaker 1>It says that I'm not predisposed to being afraid of heights,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm hugely afraid of heights, but that could also

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<v Speaker 1>be the anxiety part. But there are certain things that this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the muscle. Here's the other thing where it

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<v Speaker 1>made me feel like, yes, I am in fact magic.

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<v Speaker 1>Um is it says my muscle composition is common in

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<v Speaker 1>elite power athletes with mine. I'm man, thank you, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a stallion. Yeah, me too, me too. I'm also though, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not such a positive thing. I am also

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<v Speaker 1>more likely to have to develop type two diabetes. And

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<v Speaker 1>as you guys know, I love my sweets, I love

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<v Speaker 1>my fast food, and so the good news is I

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<v Speaker 1>have generally my upbringing was that of like very healthy

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<v Speaker 1>eating and exercising, so I really try to enjoy those

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<v Speaker 1>things like sweets and fast food in some sort of moderation.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is really good for me to know that

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<v Speaker 1>um as I age because it's I think it literally

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<v Speaker 1>says like from the time you're forty one, which is

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<v Speaker 1>my exact age, up until the time I'm e d

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<v Speaker 1>I am like likely so like really it's a worse

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<v Speaker 1>than a chance, and so It's good for me to

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<v Speaker 1>know those things because that's something I can stay on

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<v Speaker 1>top of with my doctor. Now, Like, let me get

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<v Speaker 1>regular screenings, let me stay on top of that, let

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<v Speaker 1>me make sure I'm watching my diet, and then I'm exercising,

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<v Speaker 1>because maintaining a healthy weight is one way to help

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<v Speaker 1>prevent that from happening. So, I mean, I'm actually really

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<v Speaker 1>excited that I know that. The last time writer and

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<v Speaker 1>I were at your house for a party, there was literally,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm using that word correctly, a board that had

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<v Speaker 1>donuts hanging all off of it, and the second you'd

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<v Speaker 1>grab a donut, it would reappear as if by magic.

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<v Speaker 1>So I do love doughnuts, donut fan. That's just called

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<v Speaker 1>Sundays around here, diner food. But you're a big diner

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<v Speaker 1>food fans. At least it's Sundays and not every day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just Sundays. Yeah, No, I I do. I love salty,

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<v Speaker 1>I love sweet, I love fried um. I just like

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of food. So first salty or sweet. That

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<v Speaker 1>that was the other thing the app told me is

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<v Speaker 1>that is that I prefer salty over sweet, which is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely correct. So it does, and it told me this

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<v Speaker 1>is where the history kind of buff and me loves it.

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<v Speaker 1>Told me that I have that I have more Neanderthal

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<v Speaker 1>DNA than most of the other people. Yes, yes, we're

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<v Speaker 1>elite power athlete Neanderthal's magical sleep. This is the coolest

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<v Speaker 1>app in the world. I'm waiting for my laser vision

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<v Speaker 1>which will come. Um, but yeah, this is I was.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so amazed a by how detailed it gets. I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to show you guys my ancestry makeup because, um,

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<v Speaker 1>look at how almost exactly fifty percent of one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I am. Wow you are Yeah, that is my uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that is my um, my Maltese side. That is my

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<v Speaker 1>Southern European side. Wow, look at you. Yeah, that's me

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<v Speaker 1>right there. So I'm I'm kind of all over the place. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I am forty nine point five percent Southern European and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty point five percent Northwestern European. That's what I'm north

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sixty two percent Northwestern European, which is which is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm also it's like eight percent Italian. I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea there's Italian anywhere in my family line, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>no idea. What's however, that we're partially Italian? So it's

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<v Speaker 1>really really cool kind of getting these breakdowns. But the

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<v Speaker 1>other things where it's just talking about like whether you're

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<v Speaker 1>lactose in tallerant or not, your make your wake up time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whether you like cilantro, like all those kind

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<v Speaker 1>of things. The breakdown is is really neat. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>it is really fun. Well, continuing to get to know

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<v Speaker 1>our background, let us bring in our very first background guest.

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<v Speaker 1>So to give you a little background about background actors.

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<v Speaker 1>The actor the background actor definition is someone who performs

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<v Speaker 1>in a non speaking role, usually in the background of

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<v Speaker 1>a scene. They helped make movies, TV shows, and other

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<v Speaker 1>productions look and feel more authentic and so hospitals, concert

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<v Speaker 1>city streets would be completely empty if not for hiring

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<v Speaker 1>background act Criterias, yes, school cafeterias, holy classrooms. So let

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<v Speaker 1>us welcome our first background actor, g An Torres. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so good to see your faces again. I know this

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<v Speaker 1>is so fun. How did you become a background actor?

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<v Speaker 1>And how old were you? I was I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was eighteen and it was my first year of community

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<v Speaker 1>college and I'm still trying to figure out what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I was creative, Um, I kind of liked filmmaking, editing

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. Um, maybe I wanted to be an actor,

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<v Speaker 1>but I felt a little shy to be on stage.

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<v Speaker 1>So I remember talking to my dad and he had said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you sign up to be a background actor.

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<v Speaker 1>You know they can be on set, you can see

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<v Speaker 1>everything that they do. And I thought, okay, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea. So I went down to the casting agency,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, paid the little fee that you pay, take

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<v Speaker 1>a picture, get all your information, sign up, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>how I started. And so it's I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys want me to tell you about how that

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<v Speaker 1>whole process goes, and you already know about it, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So the way they did, at least back in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineties was that you called a hotline and you listen

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<v Speaker 1>for something that maybe you fit. So for me and

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<v Speaker 1>I swear, it's like the only time we're looking young,

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<v Speaker 1>like really paid off. I'd always um looked for eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>to look younger shows, which, of course Boy Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those shows. And so you listen to recording.

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<v Speaker 1>If you felt like you fit that, you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>type of those specs that they're looking for, you called

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<v Speaker 1>the number and then you gave them your social Security

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<v Speaker 1>number everything. Yeah, apparently like there was no big deal

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<v Speaker 1>back then. So you gave them your social security number.

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<v Speaker 1>That's actually how how they had you filed. And they

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<v Speaker 1>looked you up and they thought, yeah, you fit good,

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<v Speaker 1>you're working tomorrow. Here's your call time, bring you know,

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<v Speaker 1>three sets of clothes. That's where you're going, and that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then described my stuff pop in the car next morning.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm mama, way that's to me. I'm sorry. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at a great picture of the two of us

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<v Speaker 1>together right now. Yeah, I am. I'm looking at an

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<v Speaker 1>awesome picture of the two of us right now. It's

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<v Speaker 1>on on set. That's so cool. That is where were

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<v Speaker 1>you living, What was the what was the commute like

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<v Speaker 1>then from where you were living to where we were shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would never do this commute nowadays. But I

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<v Speaker 1>was in South Orange County. I was down in Mission Gate, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember called times being about seven thirty for

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<v Speaker 1>us in the morning in the morning, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>leave my house at six and that was fine, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I could get to the kil A studios by six wow,

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<v Speaker 1>And that was okay. Back then. It is not okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you were you a Mission Vie? Here? Were you

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<v Speaker 1>a Diablo? I wasn't. I was okay, my wife was

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<v Speaker 1>a Diablo. I won't tell you really rivals exactly. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>that's so funny. So what other shows were you a

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<v Speaker 1>background actor on? UM? I got booked on two and

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<v Speaker 1>oh uh, let's see a Party of five step by

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<v Speaker 1>Step with Christine Laken. Yes, there is a few those.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why those seemed to like stick out. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>A few movies. Babylon five that was really random but cool.

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<v Speaker 1>That was one of the coolest because you actually got

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<v Speaker 1>as an extra. You still got to have makeup done

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<v Speaker 1>and I got to look like an alien and it

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<v Speaker 1>was so not me, but it was great. It was

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun. That's fun. So okay, So you were

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<v Speaker 1>on season three and four of Boy Meets World walk

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<v Speaker 1>people through? Then what would happen? So your call time

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<v Speaker 1>seven thirty am. What happens when you arrived to set?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the process? Like? They arrived a set and then

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<v Speaker 1>the A D would pass out scripts to everyone and

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<v Speaker 1>you'd actually go through we probably spend like a good

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<v Speaker 1>hour maybe, and we'd go through the entire script and

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<v Speaker 1>she would say something like Okay, Jeannie on this line,

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<v Speaker 1>on writer's line, you're gonna go from the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the stairs to locker two, you know, and have a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with somebody and then you know, let's say, Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>in your line, I was to exit and leave, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>walk off set or whatever. So everyone had, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's blocking. Yeah, different blocking with different crossings. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing. I don't know who put it together, because

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like that would take a long time to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out at least twenty extras and where they were

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<v Speaker 1>going and how they're not going to cross in front

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<v Speaker 1>of you, and it just it's like I I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a dance exactly. And so this would have

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<v Speaker 1>been Deed, right, Yes, so she was our second second

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<v Speaker 1>stage manager, and so she would have been in charge

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<v Speaker 1>of So yeah, I wonder if Deed mapped out all

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<v Speaker 1>of those moves. I mean, it must we have to

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<v Speaker 1>have dd on, Yeah, we will, we should. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>she was so good at it, like she was She's

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<v Speaker 1>just on and she's so friendly. That was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I'm sure was like a really you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, and I don't want to put words in

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<v Speaker 1>your mouth was. Was every ad you worked with on

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<v Speaker 1>sets like wonderful and fun to be around? Or were

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<v Speaker 1>there some that were better than others? She was the best.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say she was the best. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe because I got the opportunity to come back and

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<v Speaker 1>do more shows. But she was amazing, and Mike was

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<v Speaker 1>Mike was great too. I just I think everyone sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>is in work mode and as you guys know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>pressed for time, You've got to get lines done. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you just gotta really nail it. And I think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>some were just like whatever, do this, But with her,

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<v Speaker 1>she was I don't know, she was on it. She

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<v Speaker 1>was on it, but still like awesome. And I have

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<v Speaker 1>a question, just because I'm curious. Behind you on your

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<v Speaker 1>your your shelf back there is that say Transformers? Or

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<v Speaker 1>am I wrong? You are correct? Thank you? And it's

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<v Speaker 1>a G I Joe. Is a G I Joe? Next

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<v Speaker 1>to that that is G I Joe. We are absolutely friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Which Transformers? Is it? Can I ask from here? Is

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<v Speaker 1>not robots and robots in disguise? Is it? No? It's well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's well, the game is for information protocol. It's I

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<v Speaker 1>can't I can't tell American. Sorry, I think it's Bumblebee

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<v Speaker 1>on the cover. They're sorry. I'm just that's actually my

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<v Speaker 1>career job, So that is what. I'm a creative director

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<v Speaker 1>for a boarding game company called Renegade Game Studios, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am in charge of the Hasbro Yes, I worked

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<v Speaker 1>for Hasbro for years, so I was that's I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know my Transformer, I know my nerves,

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<v Speaker 1>so I know my g I Joe, my transformers in

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<v Speaker 1>the background. I'm gonna call that out every time. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that. Yeah, so I want to know. Background actors

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<v Speaker 1>are not allowed to talk, but you have to make

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<v Speaker 1>it look like you're talking. Did you have any tricks

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<v Speaker 1>to making it look like you were talking but staying

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<v Speaker 1>totally silent? Um? No, there were no tricks, and there

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<v Speaker 1>were no tricks. But I will say that becoming a

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<v Speaker 1>regular right on the show and working with other regular extras,

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<v Speaker 1>there were times it was almost like we're trying make

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<v Speaker 1>each other laugh without really blowing it. Right. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have conversations saying ridiculous things to each other at

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<v Speaker 1>the lockers, saying things that just maybe are inappropriate. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>you're reading lips. Yeah, you're saying things that you can

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<v Speaker 1>go back through the episodes and read your lips. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you might be saying inappropriate stuff appropriate. Oh my god. Yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you become friends with all the other actras? Mean,

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<v Speaker 1>did you hang out offset because you were kind of

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<v Speaker 1>regulars there? We did sometimes. Yeah, I went out a

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<v Speaker 1>lot with Wendy Smith. Um. And then there's a few

0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:39.600
<v Speaker 1>of them that I've become Facebook friends with and we

0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:41.640
<v Speaker 1>just keep in touch and we talked about the old

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<v Speaker 1>days of Boy Meets World in certain episodes. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And any episodes stick out in your head that you did, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's actually one with you well, it's um, it's

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<v Speaker 1>with the guitarist oh, um, Lesha Haley. Yes, yeah, shallow Boy. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a fun episode. That was That was a

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 1>fun episode. She was amazing. I really hope we get

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:08.440
<v Speaker 1>to have her on the show because she was absolutely incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a fun episode to do. Were you in

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<v Speaker 1>the Were you in the chubby scene where she was

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<v Speaker 1>singing that's cool? Yeah? Oh yeah, you can see me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm holding a French fry and I I just go

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<v Speaker 1>right into disgust and she starts singing, and I throw

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<v Speaker 1>the French fry down and I get up and walk

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:30.040
<v Speaker 1>away out of Chubbies. That's a fun action. Oh I

0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:34.119
<v Speaker 1>can't wait to go back and watch that. Laugh. That's cool.

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 1>I think the most pressing question we have were we nice? Yes,

0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:44.719
<v Speaker 1>but like but professional? Right? So I think as an extra,

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:48.440
<v Speaker 1>you feel like it's like a privilege to be on set,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just you don't wanna You don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>mess that up. So you know I would. I would

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 1>see you guys, And I have no idea if you

0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:57.960
<v Speaker 1>if you remember this face are not? Are not? But

0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:01.639
<v Speaker 1>I just I don't. I would just like smile. But

0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I ever tried to start up conversations

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:05.879
<v Speaker 1>unless it was like the last show of the season

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 1>and I felt like, Okay, it's cool. Everyone's just happy

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:13.120
<v Speaker 1>and excited and celebrating and things like that. But um,

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:15.719
<v Speaker 1>I think you guys probably all were approachable. I just

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:18.119
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to. I wouldn't. I didn't want to do

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:21.360
<v Speaker 1>anything to have me not back on the set. Well,

0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:23.639
<v Speaker 1>it's also it's because I think about it now, like

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:25.920
<v Speaker 1>I just I just wrapped a movie I was directing,

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and it's um, sets are fun environments, or they can

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:33.119
<v Speaker 1>be fun environments and actors like to talk, and kids

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>like to talk, and yet if you think about what

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:37.919
<v Speaker 1>it would be like to have twelve kids in a

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>classroom set, we're also work needs to get done. If

0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:43.640
<v Speaker 1>if they were allowed to just talk and joke and laugh,

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 1>it would be completely out of control. So it's a

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:49.720
<v Speaker 1>it's um, it's a little bit of like, you talk

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 1>as much as you can before somebody says, all right,

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:55.040
<v Speaker 1>keep it down, you know, no personal conversations. We need

0:25:55.080 --> 0:25:57.200
<v Speaker 1>to get work done. And so it was it was

0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>always like a tough balance between wanting to be like,

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:01.919
<v Speaker 1>so what's your name and where are you from and

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 1>what do you like to do without actually then being

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:07.240
<v Speaker 1>in trouble because there's no time for that. Yeah. I

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:10.840
<v Speaker 1>think I really don't. I don't remember you guys having

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 1>much conversation right before your liones. Yeah. I think you

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 1>just all seemed very focused, especially you writer. You were like,

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:19.600
<v Speaker 1>it just seemed like you were so on it, and

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I was he was, he was. So do you tell

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:30.400
<v Speaker 1>anybody now about your history as a background actor? Yeah?

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:34.399
<v Speaker 1>I do sometimes. Um, it's been what like twenties for

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of beers. Yeah, so let's just say twenty

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot, Yes, twenty a lot. Uh, if I have

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:44.159
<v Speaker 1>made new friends, like you know my kids. You know,

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.359
<v Speaker 1>you start making new friends with your kids, you know,

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:48.679
<v Speaker 1>they're their friends and parents and things like that. And

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 1>then let's say I have a few drinks and we're

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>watching or whatever, flipping through in Disney Plus and the

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, hey, you should you should put a

0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 1>woman's rolled for a second, you know, so like, go,

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:02.399
<v Speaker 1>should I something? You know, I'll find it episode And

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that's so fun, like me, it's it's it's

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:14.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of a fun conversation. Do you know how many

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:16.640
<v Speaker 1>episodes you're actually in that you that you can see

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 1>yourself in? Haven't you added it up? I haven't. It's

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:25.240
<v Speaker 1>maybe close to fifteen, but it's over the course of

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:27.919
<v Speaker 1>two seasons or yeah. Yeah, I mean obviously there were

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:31.400
<v Speaker 1>some shows where you didn't have the school scenes, right

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>if there was a lot of shooting, and some days

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:36.200
<v Speaker 1>it was it was just a one one day call

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 1>and one scene and that was it was Dusty there

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 1>with you while you were there. Dusty Gould red hair,

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:45.919
<v Speaker 1>one of the one of the background actors. He was

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 1>one of the Yeah, he was in the classroom with

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 1>me in the class, probably, and I realized that most

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 1>of the kids in the classroom were miners. Yeah, I

0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 1>wanted to keep them young in the classroom, so I

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 1>think they kind of had a step right, because you know,

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 1>they had to go to school. And yeah, we're just

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:08.200
<v Speaker 1>on a sitting sitting on our chairs and empty stage, waiting, waiting,

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:13.879
<v Speaker 1>so much downtime on a set. Yeah, yeah, thank you

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 1>for sending us these amazing pictures that I have, this

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>great picture. We will post them on our social media

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:22.199
<v Speaker 1>so that you guys get to see exactly who she

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 1>is and then you can spot her when we get

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:27.919
<v Speaker 1>to her her episodes and seasons three and four. It

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 1>was really great to catch up with you, Genie. I

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>totally remember your face. You haven't changed at all. Thank you, guys.

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>You're all the same to me too. It's funny, it's awesome.

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>It's really nice to reconnect with you. Thank you for

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 1>all of the Yeah, thanks for coming on our show,

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>and thank you for all the work you did for

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 1>us all those twenty plus years ago. Thank you, Thank you, guys.

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love your podcast. Been listening. I

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 1>think it's really cool. I love everyone's perspective and and

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, what you went through. I think it's really

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 1>neat because I was just a small part of it,

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and it really I don't know, you know, you always

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 1>try and guess and think how everyone else is thinking,

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 1>or what it is their challenges, or maybe they don't

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 1>have challenges and only I have challenges. But it's great,

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 1>it was really great. Thank you so much. It's great

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 1>to see you. All right, all right, guys. Our next

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>guest was a background actor on Boy Meets Worlds in

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:27.480
<v Speaker 1>seasons two through four, and then he came back in

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 1>season six just to watch a taping and was invited

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:34.479
<v Speaker 1>back to be an extra in that episode. That's awesome.

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. So cool. Um, so let's please welcome. I

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>think I bleeve Justin if I'm saying your name wrong,

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>justin our Mayo. That's absolutely perfect, Yes, all right, justin welcome.

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, this is insane. Right off the bat,

0:29:53.920 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I absolutely remember Justin, absolutely do. The second I saw

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 1>your picture, I was like, oh yeah, yeah, absolutely not. Yeah,

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I knew exactly you were right away. You did a

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of episodes and I completely remember you. Yeah,

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>that's awesome. Thanks. Well, of course I think it did

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 1>like fifty maybe, Yeah, you did a whole lot of episodes.

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 1>You were one of the regulars there for most of

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 1>the time, so yeah, I completely remember Justin Wait, so

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 1>you did maybe fifty episodes just within seasons two, three,

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 1>and four. So I just I just watched um. So

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 1>the first episode I did was season two, episode eight,

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>banned on the Run, and then I did the rest

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:39.719
<v Speaker 1>of that season, did season three, season four, and then

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I missed the show so much like I went to

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>an audience taping of it when you moved to Radford.

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I watched the show. Then I snuck over to the bathroom,

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>which was in a sound stage next door. I hid

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 1>in the bathroom for half an hour, waited for the

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 1>audience to leave and everybody get escorted out. Then I

0:30:57.320 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 1>walked back onto the sound stage and I saw Steve

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>and Deed and they saw me and they jumped up

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 1>and they said, oh my god, Justin what are you

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 1>doing here? And I said, I came to see the show.

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:10.000
<v Speaker 1>And they said you have to come back and do

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 1>an episode, and I said, please, that would be honest.

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, we have So Steve Hayfer and d

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>d to Stephano. We talked about them a little bit,

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 1>our stage manager. I'm sure you remember that justin. Yes,

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>you guys had so many I don't really remember the

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 1>catch right, but you guys had so many in jokes

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>and catchphrases. And you guys are always having such an

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>awesome time. It's so funny. One of the pictures that

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>we have of you justin you are in the scene

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>with Lesha Haley, which is exactly the same scene we

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 1>were just talking about with Genie. There's another background actor

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 1>we have from that set that that Lesha Haley episode

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Shallow Boy was really special. Oh, I remember that. I

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 1>still had my script somewhere in the garage. Wow. I

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 1>think it's because everybody has to react to her playing

0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>the song. I think that was why it was in Bees.

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 1>She's she does a whole It's like the whole part

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>point of the scene is that if she's making a

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 1>scene right, and everybody has to sort of react to it,

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to other scenes where we're just like talking

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 1>the foreground and everybody's just kind of, you know, living

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 1>normal life. Background. That's the Atlantis Morris set. Oh, you're

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 1>giving some I'm looking at the picture right now. You're

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 1>giving such a great like over the shoulder, look at

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Lesha Haley, this kind of your eyebrow race. You've got

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>the boy mes World eyebrow rais and you are sitting

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 1>there looking at her like she's she's off her nut.

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 1>It's great. It's absolutely phenomenal that the second I saw

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>that picture, I was like, oh, yeah, I know just exactly.

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 1>They kept coming back to me over and over and

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 1>said bigger, bigger, bigger. But that's how I totally learned

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>on that set that you have to go pretty big

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 1>for people to notice things. Sometimes. It's true you would

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>have been, especially in that episode, what would have been

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 1>characterized as a featured extra, right, yeah, I mean it

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>doesn't you don't get any extra money. It's just a

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>it's just a good you know, you're saying really well

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>and you do a little bit which is really cool.

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>And the longer I was there, the more they threw

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 1>me cool bits to do, like I think there's one

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>time you hit a ball off the pool table and

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 1>like kids me in the foot, And then one time

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I played they came in I think a Train of

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Consequences where we're you're on the train the New Year's

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 1>e party. Yeah, and I played the pizza guy and

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Wrider comes up to me and he's like, does anybody

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 1>know anything about deliveries? And then then he like rushes

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 1>me out the door and then comes back and says,

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's gonna good thing is he's going to

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 1>deliver ms Mrs g Andelle's babies and they'll be they'll

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>be in an under thirty minutes or whatever is the joke.

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>That's right. I forgot about that. That's so funny, and

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>so that's why, right, Yeah, but you and not because

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 1>we were around the same age. You weren't really in

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 1>the classroom, right, you were? You and I were always

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of in the same scenes together. Yeah, so I

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>was too old to be one of the classroom regular kids,

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 1>and they wanted to have you know, kids that were

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:08.959
<v Speaker 1>people were over eighteen to be you know, the hallway kids,

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Chubbies and whatever else like that. So yeah, I was.

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm fifty two now, it's still a bit older than you,

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 1>but I was, yeah close, What are your old? Do

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 1>you know? I'm I'm forty six, So yeah, we're pretty

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 1>so we're decently close. Did you have to eat in

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 1>all those chubby scenes? Um? I think I ate a

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 1>few times in a chubby scene. Mostly I was standing

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 1>up or you know, pretending to be breaking up with

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 1>a girlfriend in the background or something crazy. You know,

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 1>so much fun. Do you have any particular episode or

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>scene that you remember the most. Oh gosh, I mean

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I really like the Train of Consequence, so that was

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>really funny. And I remember Charisma Carpenter was in that episode.

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know who that was. I think we're sitting

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 1>back and train me well on Charisma, and I had

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 1>no idea who she was. And it was really fun.

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 1>It was just it was different because it was a

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 1>different set. So there's a really good memory there. And

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the the one with the monkeys was really cool because

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I grew up watching I mean I was a little

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 1>too young to watch the Monkeys originally, but you know,

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 1>when I was a kid, there's only like three channels,

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 1>so I had to watch the Monkeys. You met the

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Monkeys the band. I instantly went to the episode where

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Eric has monkeys. Yeah, okay, that was an episode where

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Eric has monkeys. Y's got the same monkey that that

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Ross has on Friends. That same Marcel monkey was on

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 1>our show. I have no recollection of that. Yeah, so

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>that's where my head went. I was like, oh, you're

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 1>in the episode where I'm with the monkey. Um, So

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:47.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, can you tell us a little bit about

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:51.400
<v Speaker 1>how you started in in the business. Yeah, I mean

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I I absolutely obsessed with movies as a kid, and

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:55.759
<v Speaker 1>I used to cut out and use paper ads and

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 1>pasted my wall with mouse because I couldn't afford posters.

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 1>So I had a movie ads from the Sunday calendar

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 1>all over my wall. And then I just wanted to

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 1>be an extra in my but I just wanted to

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 1>do something, and I was, you know, just out of college,

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't know what to do with My sister goes,

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:12.399
<v Speaker 1>why don't you be an extra? IM like, you can

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 1>do that. She's oh, yeah, why don't you get the

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>drama logue and go? She said, go do something free

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 1>and if you like it, um, you're meant to do this.

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:22.920
<v Speaker 1>So I went and worked on a science fiction movie,

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:26.880
<v Speaker 1>played a cracked out space guy or something, and it

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 1>worked for like fourteen hours for zero pay, and I

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:33.279
<v Speaker 1>couldn't wait to do it again. And then eventually I

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 1>got an agent agency. So I was working on like

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 1>nine O two and no and like Step by Step

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 1>and Party of five, and the same that that same

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 1>group of three that age Grange. Right, if you were

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 1>if you if you were eighteen or over eighteen but

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:53.880
<v Speaker 1>still look young, you could be in the background of

0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 1>all those shows. That's what they needed. Oh yeah, like

0:36:56.760 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 1>seven and Clueless and so many JA was crazy. And

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>then it's the best to get on the show and

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 1>be a regular, because to be a regular like nine

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:11.879
<v Speaker 1>or two one, so basically doing like nine, Party of five,

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Boy meets World. And then I then I do a

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 1>random day and I work on like show Girls for

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 1>three days or something and something random. That's so cool.

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 1>And I got into and I got into SAG and

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 1>and dd I said, DEDI, if I get into SAG

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 1>with you, keep me on the show. She said yes,

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 1>And do you want to hear my SAG story? I

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:35.319
<v Speaker 1>got into SAG. So I get a call one day

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 1>from from like my age and agency, and they said,

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:40.840
<v Speaker 1>would you be interested in being Johnny Depps but double

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 1>and I said, um, and and my brain just said,

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:49.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, normally you might think Beckham. I'll think about that.

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:52.919
<v Speaker 1>I said, oh, yeah, absolutely, she goes or she said,

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:58.279
<v Speaker 1>like trying, but yeah exactly. Yeah. So well here's a

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:01.800
<v Speaker 1>bat and she goes, I said, what is that entail exactly?

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 1>And she said, well, okay, you go I lived in

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I live in Orange County. And she said, okay, um,

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:09.440
<v Speaker 1>you have to go up to the studio, shows goes.

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll call you back in down and give you the details.

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 1>You'll go up there, You'll talk to them for a

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:17.440
<v Speaker 1>mental interview for a moment. You'll pull down your pants

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 1>and they'll take a bit through of your butt a polaroid.

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 1>They'll they'll give it to a producer and and they'll

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 1>probably give it to Johnny Depp. And and I said,

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 1>so okay, yeah, yeah, I'll do that, I guess, and

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:34.360
<v Speaker 1>and she hangs on the phone. I go take a shower,

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:35.799
<v Speaker 1>I get ready, and like what the hell am I doing?

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 1>And then she she calls back an hour lan and

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 1>she goes, oh, they I'm sorry, they just found somebody

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>to do that. And I said, okay, but I'm like,

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 1>oh bummer. And I was so disappointed. Man, I could

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 1>have been Johnny Depps. But but and when did they

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 1>get you back? Okay, Well, first of all, do you

0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 1>remember when it was from? So it's it's it's don

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Juan DeMarco with Johnny Depp and Marlon Branda film I

0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 1>good movie. So two days later I get a call

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 1>and so they threw me a bone and they put

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:09.600
<v Speaker 1>me on um Don Juan de Marco. So I get

0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 1>up there and I didn't realize that was the movie.

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, Hey, that guy looks like Marlon

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Brando and they're like, that's because that is Marlon Brando

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:19.719
<v Speaker 1>and as ooh and that's Johnny Depp on Holy Ship.

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 1>So we're in working on scenes and Marlon Brando really

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 1>like loves like the little guy, the low and the

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 1>totem pulp person. He was like talking to me, like

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 1>justin He's like he heard my name. He said, it's

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 1>getting kind of warm in here, don't you think? Is that? Yeah?

0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 1>It was getting kind of warm, and they brought an

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 1>air conditioner just for him, and I got stuck in

0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 1>a stairwell with Marlon Brando. So I'm eating snacks and

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Marlon Brando and a a assistant director come in and

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 1>they're arguing and they're like, you say, Marlin, can you

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 1>work at like an extra fifteen minutes? Like I sure,

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:56.879
<v Speaker 1>I'll work an extra fifty minutes and I'll just come

0:39:56.920 --> 0:40:00.399
<v Speaker 1>in fifteen minutes late tomorrow, and they kept going back

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:02.359
<v Speaker 1>and forth and Marlin Brandon was just handling this guy

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 1>really easily and really calmly, and the guy turned to

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:07.840
<v Speaker 1>me and saw me, and he got really mad and

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>he he said, you like you need to leave, And

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Marlon Brando said, oh no, no, no, no, no, the

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:18.959
<v Speaker 1>kids stays. And I was like, holy like, I'm gonna

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 1>tell this story for the rest of my life. So

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:26.439
<v Speaker 1>he gave one. So Marlon Brando gave one extra girl.

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 1>She played a nurse. He goes, okay, you're you have lines,

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 1>because he was there doing like small talk and they

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 1>were mentioned talking about how to get into SACK. Do

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 1>you know the voucher system? How you got into SAD

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:40.240
<v Speaker 1>So you needed three SAG vouchers. And for our listeners,

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:44.879
<v Speaker 1>SAG is Screen Actors, just the union for actors that

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:46.239
<v Speaker 1>you have to be a member of in order to

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, collect your residuals and have your health insurance

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and all that exactly, and get paid eighty bucks instead

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:56.800
<v Speaker 1>of forty bucks exactly. That's an extra And um, he said, okay,

0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 1>you want to get into He he like he was hurt, hurt.

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 1>We were all like trying hard to get into SAG.

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 1>We need are like last voucher. Hes, okay, you have lines,

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have lines. You gave this nurse lines. Marlon

0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Brando out of nowhere, just gives her lines. So we shoot.

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I go home. Um, I get a call like two

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 1>days later, they really need you on set donal Wanda Market.

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:19.280
<v Speaker 1>They have to do a reshoot or whatever. I rush

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>up to the set. I get there and I was

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 1>non union and I needed one more voucher and I'd

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 1>waited a whole year. I didn't get my third voucher.

0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:31.880
<v Speaker 1>And she signs signs of vouchers handsome to me, and

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 1>she said, go home. You're done for the day. And said,

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:36.919
<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about? She goes, welcome to SAG.

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:38.839
<v Speaker 1>I said, what do you? I said, this is SAG

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 1>voucher because yeah, somebody up there likes you. Somebody, somebody

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 1>really big is really looking out for you. I said,

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:49.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, are you telling me Marlon Brando one got

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:53.480
<v Speaker 1>me into SAG. And she's like, I'm not saying that. Goodbye.

0:41:55.120 --> 0:42:02.360
<v Speaker 1>I walked away. Random you into SAG. I think you

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 1>know who knows like And I heard from a couple

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 1>other people that that's what they heard, the same thing

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:11.439
<v Speaker 1>because either Marlon or Johnny or somebody they were they're

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 1>really cool and you know, and I got into SAD.

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 1>I got to stay on boy Meats World, so I

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 1>had a regular gig because normally when you got into

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:21.800
<v Speaker 1>SAG is an extra, your jobs just went down because

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 1>you could, you know, because the first I don't want

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:25.680
<v Speaker 1>to pay you the extra money. Yeah, because only the

0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:28.799
<v Speaker 1>first certain number of people on a SAG TV show

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 1>or or extras have to be SAG, and everybody above

0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 1>that number could be non union. So in a crowd scene,

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:38.920
<v Speaker 1>there's forty SAG people in a thousand non union people.

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 1>So did you stay in the entertainment industry? Do you

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 1>still work in the entertainment industry? Now? I do, Well,

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I have a regular job. I'm a buyer for a

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:50.360
<v Speaker 1>medical company, but for um so. I had a daughter,

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 1>so eventually I had a quit, quit extra work, and

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 1>but I worked on about three hundred things, and then

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I started to move into local commercials. And then I

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:03.479
<v Speaker 1>are writing, and I said, if if no one's gonna

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 1>put me in anything, I'll put myself in something. So

0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I started writing and directing indie movies. So I directed

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 1>a movie called blood Sucker Jones, which is a like

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:17.719
<v Speaker 1>a black exploitation movie. So here's something really interesting. When

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I first started, when I was cast on the show

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and I shot my first episode A couple episodes before

0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:27.640
<v Speaker 1>that was the episode called Who's Afraid of Corey Wolf? Yeah?

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:31.800
<v Speaker 1>And the Halloween one right yeah, And there's a small

0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 1>theme in about how he thinks he has to kill

0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Tapanga to like become a full fledge werewolf or something.

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:40.960
<v Speaker 1>And I took that colonel with an idea, and that's

0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 1>the plot of the first movie I made, Bloodsuck at Jones,

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 1>but it was about a vampire making um, becoming a

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:50.799
<v Speaker 1>full fledge vampire. He has to kill his first love.

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 1>So we made that, we got into vessels that did

0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 1>pretty good, and then we made a sequel, blood Suck

0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:58.880
<v Speaker 1>at Jones Versus A Creeping Death. Where can we find

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:02.759
<v Speaker 1>these movies? Where can every one stuff? So they're both

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:09.879
<v Speaker 1>on Amazon and you can get um but you can

0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 1>you can rent them on Amazon. You can rent them

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:15.120
<v Speaker 1>on Amazon Prime. We used to be there for free,

0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:17.200
<v Speaker 1>but now it's only for antial. But we're rereleasing it

0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:19.719
<v Speaker 1>to put it on a lot of platforms. And then

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I just finished our biggest movie. It's called Zanna Do

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 1>hell Fire and I love these titles, thanks Matt. And

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I wrote it for my daughter, like I was a

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:31.399
<v Speaker 1>single dad, so I wanted to write a movie about

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:33.040
<v Speaker 1>a single dad. So it's about a nine year old

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 1>girl who brings her comic book character from the future

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:39.760
<v Speaker 1>to the present just to hang out, and her evil

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:43.320
<v Speaker 1>sister follows and all hell breaks loose. That's so cool.

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I want to watch that. And okay, well here's another

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:49.319
<v Speaker 1>little tidbit. I was gonna make it Union, and I

0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:51.879
<v Speaker 1>wanted to cast you in it as the single dad,

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:55.719
<v Speaker 1>and then I didn't have enough money, um to make

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:58.960
<v Speaker 1>it Union, so I didn't. I never ended up contacting you,

0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:01.160
<v Speaker 1>but that my play and was always to get all

0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 1>of you in a movie. One day that would be

0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe we could do blood Sucker Jones three, blood Sucker

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:12.360
<v Speaker 1>totally many scripts, so but that's still my dream and

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I hope to do that one day for sure. Just

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for being here with us and

0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 1>telling us about your life now and your experiences as

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:22.279
<v Speaker 1>a background actor. It really means a lot to us,

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 1>So thanks so much. This podcast is incredible, Like hearing

0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:28.880
<v Speaker 1>all you hearing your feelings about how you thought you

0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 1>were going to be fired, and and then I thought

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get invited back, and then I found out

0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 1>the next week it was like an off day, off

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 1>week ago. Well, thank you again, Justin. This has been

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:46.279
<v Speaker 1>a real, a real pleasure. So thank you for being

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 1>here with us. We wish you the best and we

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:51.399
<v Speaker 1>can't wait to reconnect on our our movie set. I'm

0:45:51.520 --> 0:46:07.000
<v Speaker 1>sure i'm checking out, please please, thank you, Justin. Jason,

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:11.080
<v Speaker 1>how are you doing. I'm well, it's great, you guys,

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:14.040
<v Speaker 1>nice to see you were You were a background actor

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:17.960
<v Speaker 1>in season three. Tell us a little bit about some

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:19.640
<v Speaker 1>of the episodes you were a part of, and like,

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:22.240
<v Speaker 1>what is your favorite memory from being a background actor

0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 1>on Boy Meets World. The only episode I really remember

0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 1>vividly was there was a scene in the I want

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 1>to say it was in the lunch room or maybe

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:34.359
<v Speaker 1>in that um that hangout place that that you guys

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:41.720
<v Speaker 1>always went to, and uh, Corey uh was being bullied

0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:43.920
<v Speaker 1>by this guy and they brought in this like really

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:48.399
<v Speaker 1>really really tall, good looking like Nordic cooking kid, and

0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:51.080
<v Speaker 1>there was always there was a big height differential which

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 1>was very funny. But they made it even funnier because

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 1>they had this guy who was already quite a bit

0:46:56.520 --> 0:47:02.280
<v Speaker 1>taller than Ben stand on an apple box like watching

0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:04.840
<v Speaker 1>that as like I want to be actor, uh, you know,

0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:07.800
<v Speaker 1>trying to start my career, and just watching the decisions

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:09.279
<v Speaker 1>being made on the fly, and I thought that was

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:12.720
<v Speaker 1>so cool. So how old were you were you eighteen?

0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:16.839
<v Speaker 1>Playing younger? I was twenty three? Wow, okay, but if

0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:19.759
<v Speaker 1>you were in Chubby's you could really be any age? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 1>because you guys were in high school by the time

0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I was on the show. I don't think I could

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:28.920
<v Speaker 1>if I get started, yeah, uh doing background work or

0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:31.000
<v Speaker 1>just in the in the business and you know in general.

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Um I had well, I had just moved to l

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:36.319
<v Speaker 1>A when I was doing extra works, so so I

0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:40.080
<v Speaker 1>moved here in so I was on the show nine six,

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 1>So I didn't know anyone here. I didn't have any friends,

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:44.759
<v Speaker 1>and I had heard that oh if you could go

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 1>do background work and goes sign up and you know,

0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:49.480
<v Speaker 1>so that's how I paid my bills sort of the

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:54.680
<v Speaker 1>first here here. Where'd you move from Pennsylvania? Oh? Nice,

0:47:54.800 --> 0:47:57.480
<v Speaker 1>outside of Allentown, you know the billy Joel song. That's

0:47:57.480 --> 0:47:59.759
<v Speaker 1>where of course I know Pennsylvania. Well, both my brothers

0:47:59.800 --> 0:48:03.600
<v Speaker 1>went to school in Pennsylvania. Okay, so that's very cool. Now,

0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 1>what made you come out here? What made you come

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:07.440
<v Speaker 1>out to Los Angeles? Was it just the bug to

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:09.319
<v Speaker 1>be an actor? It was a little bit of that.

0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:13.600
<v Speaker 1>It was there was a really really big snowstorm. So

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:16.239
<v Speaker 1>I used to work in radio, and the station I

0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:19.360
<v Speaker 1>worked at back in Allentown, we were known for the

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:21.680
<v Speaker 1>school closings, like back before the internet, who would do

0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the school closing the best form on the radio. So

0:48:25.320 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I I worked overnight, So I would stay overnight, uh

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:31.200
<v Speaker 1>and do my shift, and then in the morning I

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:33.200
<v Speaker 1>would have to stay and help the morning show take

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:37.799
<v Speaker 1>the calls. So I remember driving home after being completely

0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:40.759
<v Speaker 1>sleep deprived in this blizzard, and I got home, I'm like,

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:48.400
<v Speaker 1>why why am I here? Why? It's terrible. Yeah. For

0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:51.239
<v Speaker 1>for Jason, just very quickly, for Writer and Danielle, the

0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:53.759
<v Speaker 1>two West Coast kids. So when we were East Coast

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:55.600
<v Speaker 1>kids growing up, you would wake up on a day

0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:57.160
<v Speaker 1>when there was snow on the ground, and you would

0:48:57.200 --> 0:49:00.640
<v Speaker 1>put on the radio and you would wait for your

0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:03.480
<v Speaker 1>school to be called, and then they tell you if

0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:05.360
<v Speaker 1>you were delayed, or if you're if you had a

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:07.440
<v Speaker 1>snow day and it was canceled, it was the best.

0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:09.279
<v Speaker 1>So I don't think you had that out here on

0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:12.440
<v Speaker 1>the West Coast, did you, and the mountains and the

0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 1>mountain towns, But but you would. You'd sit there and

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:17.160
<v Speaker 1>you'd wait. It would say like, and the Avon Public

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:19.920
<v Speaker 1>schools are and if if it was a good dj

0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:24.720
<v Speaker 1>they would pause because they would either be are open

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:27.399
<v Speaker 1>and running normally and you go, or in which case

0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:30.440
<v Speaker 1>the horse and buggy couldn't get you to school right eat,

0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:36.000
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't get we had slaves, but that's what it was.

0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:37.960
<v Speaker 1>It would be and they'd be like Avon Public Schools

0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:40.279
<v Speaker 1>are closed today and be like, yes, not thinking that.

0:49:40.320 --> 0:49:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Of course, then you had to do an extra day

0:49:41.719 --> 0:49:44.960
<v Speaker 1>in the summer because they just tack it on. Yeah,

0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:46.600
<v Speaker 1>but it was you just have a day off where

0:49:46.600 --> 0:49:49.279
<v Speaker 1>you'd go sledding or you would play snowball. You it

0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:51.040
<v Speaker 1>was the greatest thing in the world. So it's something

0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:53.160
<v Speaker 1>that is just Jason and I know what this is.

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:54.640
<v Speaker 1>But if you did not grow up in that, you

0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:57.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't you didn't know. So yeah, it's totally cool. Jason,

0:49:57.040 --> 0:50:00.840
<v Speaker 1>were you a background actor on any other shows. I

0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:04.279
<v Speaker 1>was on Friends a couple of times. Cool. Actually, like

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you can see me really well because it was like

0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 1>the season two premier, like when the show was just

0:50:08.960 --> 0:50:12.040
<v Speaker 1>like absolutely white hot at the top of the zeitgeist,

0:50:12.400 --> 0:50:15.759
<v Speaker 1>and it's like great, Ross gets off the plane with Julie. Yeah,

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Rachel does this like pratfall on the airport over the furniture.

0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm right there addressed as a limo driver. How fun.

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I have to watch that again. And uh, I got

0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:28.280
<v Speaker 1>my sag card on Executive Decision, which was a movie

0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 1>with Steven Seagal and Kurt Russell, John Leguizamo, everybody jumping

0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:38.520
<v Speaker 1>on the airplane. Yes, beat wrong, pump wasn't. Yes, it

0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:41.120
<v Speaker 1>was great. Yes, it was a great I love the

0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:43.520
<v Speaker 1>title because that sounds exactly like a Steven Seagal movie.

0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:48.680
<v Speaker 1>There's like a hard to kill as an executive decision

0:50:48.680 --> 0:50:51.480
<v Speaker 1>and not it's a spoiler alert, but it's from Seagal's

0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:53.160
<v Speaker 1>only in like the first fifteen minutes and then it's

0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:57.120
<v Speaker 1>killed off. That's a straight up Kurt Russell. Uh. Yeah,

0:50:57.160 --> 0:51:00.479
<v Speaker 1>it's a great movie. It's a great movie. We should

0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:03.839
<v Speaker 1>explain to everybody why having your SAG card is so

0:51:03.920 --> 0:51:06.400
<v Speaker 1>important because it's now come up a couple of times.

0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Um and so as writer mentioned, SAG stands for the

0:51:09.680 --> 0:51:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Screen Actors Guild, and you it's it's joining SAG is

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:17.839
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a catch twenty two because you

0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:21.840
<v Speaker 1>cannot have a speaking role in television or a movie

0:51:22.440 --> 0:51:25.440
<v Speaker 1>until you are a member of SAG. But you can't

0:51:25.520 --> 0:51:28.560
<v Speaker 1>become a member of SAG until you have a speaking part.

0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:30.600
<v Speaker 1>So we can do one, right, you can do one,

0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 1>and then you do you get something that's called lead.

0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:37.120
<v Speaker 1>You get your voucher. Yes, so top being taft heart

0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:39.440
<v Speaker 1>lead in means I think actually you get the option

0:51:39.480 --> 0:51:42.440
<v Speaker 1>to join right away. You can get yeah, and but

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:45.239
<v Speaker 1>there are other ways to earn your SAG, like you

0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:47.960
<v Speaker 1>get like three SAG vouchers, right, and that what it

0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:50.359
<v Speaker 1>needs to be here a time limit. Can you just

0:51:50.440 --> 0:51:53.880
<v Speaker 1>get three? Okay? Just three? Yeah? When I was doing

0:51:53.960 --> 0:51:57.359
<v Speaker 1>it because STAG and after we're separate unions at the time,

0:51:57.440 --> 0:52:00.959
<v Speaker 1>So win SAG. You you would get three vouchers doing

0:52:01.000 --> 0:52:04.120
<v Speaker 1>background work because they would have a certain allotment of

0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:07.319
<v Speaker 1>union background actors they would have to use, and then

0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:09.640
<v Speaker 1>a certain allotment of non union so if you worked

0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:11.279
<v Speaker 1>on the show as a non union you wouldn't get

0:52:11.280 --> 0:52:13.520
<v Speaker 1>a voucher. But sometimes there was an slot they would

0:52:13.560 --> 0:52:15.560
<v Speaker 1>open up, somebody didn't show up and you would get

0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:17.760
<v Speaker 1>bumped up and you would get to use the union voucher.

0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:22.480
<v Speaker 1>But the day wow, wow, that's so cool. Yeah. So

0:52:22.560 --> 0:52:24.759
<v Speaker 1>I got into SAG because I did. I was a

0:52:24.800 --> 0:52:26.920
<v Speaker 1>member of Equity, which is the theater Union. And I

0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:28.399
<v Speaker 1>don't know if this is still the case, but back then,

0:52:28.400 --> 0:52:30.720
<v Speaker 1>if you were a member of Equity, after you were

0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:33.160
<v Speaker 1>in Equity for a year, you could get you were

0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:35.759
<v Speaker 1>eligible for sex. I think just by being in Lame

0:52:35.800 --> 0:52:38.640
<v Speaker 1>as Rob as a kid, I then became eligible for sex.

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:40.120
<v Speaker 1>So I never had to do like the voucher at

0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Half Heartley thing. I just you know, I think I

0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:43.920
<v Speaker 1>did the same thing. I think well, after being in

0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:46.120
<v Speaker 1>the Harvard Stage, I was in Equity and then I

0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:47.960
<v Speaker 1>was able to join SADE. What year did you join

0:52:48.000 --> 0:52:57.120
<v Speaker 1>SAG writer? Do you remember? Nineteen nine? Daniel Jason? Nineties five. See,

0:52:57.120 --> 0:52:59.520
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing most actors, because it's a very big

0:52:59.560 --> 0:53:02.560
<v Speaker 1>deal as an actor to get your SAG card. It

0:53:02.800 --> 0:53:04.880
<v Speaker 1>still says when you joined too on the card, right,

0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:08.120
<v Speaker 1>But you don't need to look at it. Most actors,

0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:09.680
<v Speaker 1>you ask them like when did you join SAG, and

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:11.800
<v Speaker 1>they can instantly. I was eighty nine, Like I'll always remember,

0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:15.200
<v Speaker 1>but now I remember, there used to be a screen

0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Extras guild, remember that, I think pre like it wasn't

0:53:19.800 --> 0:53:23.480
<v Speaker 1>until the mid nineties that the two guilds merged. It

0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:25.239
<v Speaker 1>used to be that if you were an extra, you

0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:27.759
<v Speaker 1>you were in a separate union and then and then

0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:30.640
<v Speaker 1>it became all under SAG, and that was a big

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:33.120
<v Speaker 1>deal because that's that's how then you could become a

0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:35.520
<v Speaker 1>SAG member by doing background work. Before that you couldn't

0:53:35.520 --> 0:53:37.759
<v Speaker 1>even do it by doing background work. Yeah, yeah, I

0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:40.439
<v Speaker 1>do remember that. Yeah, background work didn't used to count.

0:53:41.719 --> 0:53:43.839
<v Speaker 1>And once you're a member of SAG you get health

0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:46.759
<v Speaker 1>insurance as well, So there's there's again, it's a it's

0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:52.000
<v Speaker 1>a a double edged sword. Joining SAG means you pay dudes,

0:53:52.880 --> 0:53:55.560
<v Speaker 1>So you have to pay kind of a lot of

0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:58.640
<v Speaker 1>money every year in order to stay in SAG. You

0:53:58.719 --> 0:54:01.399
<v Speaker 1>also have to earn a certain amount of money every

0:54:01.480 --> 0:54:03.399
<v Speaker 1>year to stay in ZAG. And there are like two

0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:07.400
<v Speaker 1>levels of earnings. Like you know whether you're going to

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:10.000
<v Speaker 1>be in Plan A or Plan B and Plan A

0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:12.400
<v Speaker 1>is the better insurance, but it means you also have

0:54:12.480 --> 0:54:16.239
<v Speaker 1>to be earning a significantly larger portion of money a year.

0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:18.920
<v Speaker 1>That's gone. Now. I don't real think there's Plan A

0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Plan B anymore. I think there's just one plan that's

0:54:22.600 --> 0:54:24.839
<v Speaker 1>not as good as Plan A and not as bad

0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:26.640
<v Speaker 1>as Plan B. I think they kind of went in

0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:29.359
<v Speaker 1>the middle and now it's one and some people were

0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:30.960
<v Speaker 1>happy with that and some people where. There's been a

0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:32.839
<v Speaker 1>lot of changes at SAG and some of them haven't

0:54:32.880 --> 0:54:36.040
<v Speaker 1>been great. But so, Jason, do you still work in

0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:39.280
<v Speaker 1>the entertainment industry and what are you doing now? Now?

0:54:39.360 --> 0:54:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm managing a tour company called Bikes and Hikes l A.

0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:45.719
<v Speaker 1>But I am still in entertainment a little bit. I

0:54:45.719 --> 0:54:48.480
<v Speaker 1>host my own podcast called a Lifetime of Hallmark where

0:54:49.080 --> 0:54:52.960
<v Speaker 1>we review and kind of pick apart Lifetime and Hallmark movies.

0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:58.319
<v Speaker 1>And they're so it's very like earnest and wholesome or

0:54:58.400 --> 0:55:03.120
<v Speaker 1>they are just murdering sex seven. I'm trying to get

0:55:03.120 --> 0:55:05.160
<v Speaker 1>more into hiking. Is your company? Is it like cool

0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:07.200
<v Speaker 1>hikes around l A? Is that what you guys do?

0:55:07.640 --> 0:55:10.680
<v Speaker 1>We we cater to tours from around the world, so

0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:13.000
<v Speaker 1>that we do biking tours and do three daily bike

0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:15.880
<v Speaker 1>tours of l a ones of thirty two mile one

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:18.800
<v Speaker 1>that goes out to the back, that we do shorter

0:55:18.840 --> 0:55:21.279
<v Speaker 1>ones in Beverly Hills and Hollywood, and then we do

0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:23.440
<v Speaker 1>hikes to the front and back of the Hollywood Sign.

0:55:23.520 --> 0:55:26.839
<v Speaker 1>And that's cool. Arc. Yeah, I might have to join

0:55:26.880 --> 0:55:28.560
<v Speaker 1>you for the one to the Hollywood Sign. I've never

0:55:28.600 --> 0:55:30.200
<v Speaker 1>all the years I've been here, thirty so many years,

0:55:30.239 --> 0:55:31.759
<v Speaker 1>I've never done a hike to the Hollywood Sign. And

0:55:31.760 --> 0:55:36.200
<v Speaker 1>it's something, Yeah, come on, all right, let's do it. Oh,

0:55:36.280 --> 0:55:38.040
<v Speaker 1>we should all go. We should totally do that. That

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:40.000
<v Speaker 1>would be really cool. Does it ever come up in

0:55:40.000 --> 0:55:41.960
<v Speaker 1>your life that you were a background actor on Boy

0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:44.839
<v Speaker 1>Meat's World. Yeah, because I I have a lot of

0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:47.440
<v Speaker 1>friends that watched it growing up. In some it'll come

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:50.040
<v Speaker 1>up in conversation. I'll tell them and they're like, what,

0:55:50.040 --> 0:55:53.360
<v Speaker 1>what what? And now? So I live in West Hollywood

0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:55.960
<v Speaker 1>and just that I'm sure people have heard in the

0:55:55.960 --> 0:55:59.000
<v Speaker 1>news that Ben is running for a city council was Hollywood.

0:55:59.719 --> 0:56:02.799
<v Speaker 1>I in my I've lived in we Hope for fifteen years.

0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I've never once seen him out. I've run been ten

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:10.440
<v Speaker 1>times in the past month ten. That's so funny. Have

0:56:10.520 --> 0:56:12.160
<v Speaker 1>you have you talked to him when you've seen him

0:56:12.160 --> 0:56:13.960
<v Speaker 1>out of you The first time I saw him, it

0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:16.360
<v Speaker 1>was right after I found out I was gonna be

0:56:16.440 --> 0:56:18.040
<v Speaker 1>on with you guys, and so I just went up

0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:20.440
<v Speaker 1>to I was like, Ben, Hi, I'm a resident here.

0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:22.360
<v Speaker 1>We hope it also is on Boy Meets World. And

0:56:22.360 --> 0:56:25.600
<v Speaker 1>we just had like a twenty minute conversation. That's amazing.

0:56:25.640 --> 0:56:27.800
<v Speaker 1>So you knew you were a background actor, you didn't

0:56:27.840 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 1>remember me, but now when he sees me, he recognizes

0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:32.200
<v Speaker 1>me and like makes a point of staying hi. That's

0:56:32.239 --> 0:56:36.440
<v Speaker 1>so cool. That's cool. Good. I'm happy to hear that. Well, Jason,

0:56:36.480 --> 0:56:38.360
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for being here with us. It

0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:39.840
<v Speaker 1>was really fun to catch up with you. And I

0:56:39.840 --> 0:56:41.600
<v Speaker 1>think we'll take you up on that offer to go

0:56:41.640 --> 0:56:44.399
<v Speaker 1>on a hike to the Hollywood time because I've ever

0:56:44.400 --> 0:56:46.200
<v Speaker 1>done it. All right, what was what was the name

0:56:46.200 --> 0:56:48.920
<v Speaker 1>of the podcast, One More Time A Lifetime of Hallmark?

0:56:49.200 --> 0:56:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I checked that out, perfect, Yes, Well, thank you for

0:56:52.719 --> 0:56:57.839
<v Speaker 1>being here with us, Yeah, alright, by I want to

0:56:57.840 --> 0:57:00.600
<v Speaker 1>do I've wanted to do that Hollywood hike because it's

0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:02.680
<v Speaker 1>just such an iconic thing. Going and actually seeing the

0:57:02.719 --> 0:57:04.799
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood Sign, which you see it, you drive by, and

0:57:04.840 --> 0:57:06.719
<v Speaker 1>you just get everybody gets at wherever they live. They

0:57:06.760 --> 0:57:08.839
<v Speaker 1>get so complacent about where they live that they don't

0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:12.879
<v Speaker 1>do the things that, yeah, that show them the joy

0:57:13.040 --> 0:57:15.040
<v Speaker 1>of of the town or city that they live in.

0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:18.720
<v Speaker 1>So that nightmare. Like the roads up to the Hollywood

0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Sign are like so congested, like the local residents hate

0:57:21.160 --> 0:57:23.280
<v Speaker 1>it so much because and there's probably no place to park,

0:57:23.320 --> 0:57:25.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's awful exactly trying to make it hard. Yeah,

0:57:25.800 --> 0:57:28.240
<v Speaker 1>because people live up there, you know. But that's I'm

0:57:28.280 --> 0:57:30.400
<v Speaker 1>surprised you didn't. It's like that's how I knew I

0:57:30.400 --> 0:57:31.720
<v Speaker 1>was at a rider house. It was like, well, I

0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:35.040
<v Speaker 1>can't the streets are are turning everywhere and I can't

0:57:35.080 --> 0:57:37.720
<v Speaker 1>actually park, So hey, I must be at the rider's house.

0:57:37.880 --> 0:57:40.000
<v Speaker 1>It's just a scant thirteen miles from where I had

0:57:40.000 --> 0:57:42.320
<v Speaker 1>to park my car. That's gonna be nice, man. I like,

0:57:42.520 --> 0:57:44.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, I like to be around trees. I like

0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:46.520
<v Speaker 1>to be so that means being a little off the

0:57:46.520 --> 0:57:49.720
<v Speaker 1>beaten path. My place now is right off a big,

0:57:49.760 --> 0:57:51.920
<v Speaker 1>big road. No no, no no, your place now has decent parking,

0:57:51.920 --> 0:57:53.360
<v Speaker 1>But the other ones it was like, are you. I'd

0:57:53.360 --> 0:57:54.960
<v Speaker 1>have to call you and be like, I'm acclimatizing for

0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the night. I'll see you in the morning. Oh my gosh,

0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:02.680
<v Speaker 1>that is I once my car got stuck hanging off

0:58:02.680 --> 0:58:09.200
<v Speaker 1>a cliff outside of Writers right, that's right, because I

0:58:09.280 --> 0:58:12.400
<v Speaker 1>was on the curb. I was backing and it was

0:58:12.520 --> 0:58:15.920
<v Speaker 1>really curved. It was a terrible, terrible thing, and I

0:58:15.960 --> 0:58:18.000
<v Speaker 1>can don't see and it was dark, and I turned

0:58:18.080 --> 0:58:21.480
<v Speaker 1>my wheel and I like went, literally my car was

0:58:21.560 --> 0:58:24.480
<v Speaker 1>dangling off. That's right. I forgot. Did it rip off

0:58:24.520 --> 0:58:26.280
<v Speaker 1>the front of your car too? And we know nothing,

0:58:26.360 --> 0:58:29.160
<v Speaker 1>nothing like happening. I just couldn't get the wheel back

0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:31.000
<v Speaker 1>up onto the things. So the tow truck just had

0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:34.280
<v Speaker 1>to basically bring my car down the We just started

0:58:34.360 --> 0:58:36.560
<v Speaker 1>driving tow trucks to Rider's house. It was just easier

0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:41.120
<v Speaker 1>that way, say a lot safer. Oh my god. That

0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:43.160
<v Speaker 1>was one of our boy Beats World dinners that we had,

0:58:43.200 --> 0:58:47.360
<v Speaker 1>remember one of our boy Meats World dinners. It was

0:58:47.400 --> 0:58:50.320
<v Speaker 1>really fun. Well, I'd love to introduce our next guests.

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<v Speaker 1>Her name is Jessica Bibbo. I hope I said that right.

0:58:53.800 --> 0:58:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Jessica Um. She was one of the background actors that

0:58:57.200 --> 0:59:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Genie are very first guest. Genie had friends that she

0:59:00.720 --> 0:59:04.000
<v Speaker 1>would bring in as being other background actors, and Jessica

0:59:04.160 --> 0:59:08.880
<v Speaker 1>was one of those people. Hi are you. Jessica was

0:59:08.920 --> 0:59:13.200
<v Speaker 1>one of the background actor actors in the famous Danielle

0:59:13.200 --> 0:59:17.640
<v Speaker 1>to Penga cutting her hair episode Hair Today, Gone Tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you're actually in the bathroom scene with me, right, yes? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It was my first time ever being on the show too.

0:59:25.880 --> 0:59:30.520
<v Speaker 1>That was the first episode. Yes, And I remember they

0:59:30.560 --> 0:59:32.960
<v Speaker 1>picked me, I think because I have obviously big hair.

0:59:37.000 --> 0:59:40.520
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so the lady picked me and I was like,

0:59:40.960 --> 0:59:43.880
<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, like I've never even been here before,

0:59:43.880 --> 0:59:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I've done this. So I and my friend Ginie was like,

0:59:49.320 --> 0:59:56.400
<v Speaker 1>She's like, you got a feature and whatever. Three years

0:59:57.320 --> 0:59:59.200
<v Speaker 1>and so what happened? So was it de de de

0:59:59.240 --> 1:00:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Stefano who pay d out? It was? Yeah, she picked

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<v Speaker 1>me in another um extra I called Wendy and it

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<v Speaker 1>was the three of us and I made me Indy

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<v Speaker 1>bathroom and I I think it was it was such

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<v Speaker 1>a fun experience. I was so nervous the first day

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<v Speaker 1>and it just it was just so much fun to

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<v Speaker 1>be in that episode, especially because it was such a

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<v Speaker 1>big hit. Yeah, and you're so featured in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom at the sink right there, So, um, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you really like remember about that day? I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember you actually, Um, I was so nervous for

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<v Speaker 1>you because you had to cut your hair on camera

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh my gosh, this is like

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<v Speaker 1>I was so nervous for you and like you had

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<v Speaker 1>to get it in the So I really remember that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just remember thinking like being nervous for you,

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<v Speaker 1>and and just I thought it was it was just

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<v Speaker 1>so fun because it was really my first time on

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<v Speaker 1>a set and so the whole thing like it looked

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<v Speaker 1>smaller than I thought it would. You know how everyone

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<v Speaker 1>always says that's true. It's totally true. It is true.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's just something about when you actually see

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<v Speaker 1>the limits of the set, You're like, oh, well that's

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<v Speaker 1>all it is. I'm like it's shorter, and like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, like there was there. I had like this

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<v Speaker 1>perception of what it would be and then it was different.

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<v Speaker 1>So I remember that. And then um, I also remember

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<v Speaker 1>I got to get my makeup done, so that was

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<v Speaker 1>super exciting because I was featured. I'm like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>get to get my I did. I'm like, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>bother with the hair. No one's gonna know how to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, not my hair, but I did. So. The

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<v Speaker 1>other actor that was featured with you, Wendy. Had you

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<v Speaker 1>ever met her before? Did you know her at all?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't, but my my best friend Genie was friends

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<v Speaker 1>with her. They worked together every week, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>connected immediately. We're still friends to this day. And because

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<v Speaker 1>I think Jennie was talking about Wendy, yeah, we're all

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<v Speaker 1>still friends and I, you know, I met her that

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<v Speaker 1>one time. I live in Orange County too, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see her, but um, we're still connected just because

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<v Speaker 1>of that one day and we still like reminisce about it.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like so excited to be chosen too. So

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<v Speaker 1>are you are you a Mission Viejo as well? I am, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're also not a Diablo. You were a Cougar exactly. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you know? That's because we talked to We

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<v Speaker 1>talked to Jeannie and my wife is Diablo, so so

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<v Speaker 1>my kids are going to be Diablos. Okay, there you go, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>and my my uncle and my mom and like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's a lot of mission video history in this

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<v Speaker 1>there is why we were. My My wife lived off

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<v Speaker 1>a spartan right right across from anton Across from Antonucie

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<v Speaker 1>is Antonucci still there, like the greatest Italian restaurant. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's totally that I used to go. They're growing up

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<v Speaker 1>with my grandfather. I'm Italian, so that was like his spots. Yeah. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>little little mission viejo. So it's for my wife. Shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to my wife. Can I ask you a question?

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<v Speaker 1>Had you heard of boy Mets World or seen Boy

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<v Speaker 1>Me's World before you came on the show. I had

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<v Speaker 1>heard of it, um, you know, I was. I was

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<v Speaker 1>older at the time, so I was I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I had seen it. I had seen it maybe on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>But the funny thing is because I was in college.

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<v Speaker 1>The day after the show aired and I went to school,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody came up to me, I'm not kidding you. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw you on TV, Oh my gosh, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wow, like so many college people, college age people

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<v Speaker 1>were watching the show, boys, girls, everything, so I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's so cool. Yeah. I mean, at first I knew

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<v Speaker 1>about the show was such a big hid Do you

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<v Speaker 1>ever tell people about it? Now? Do you have children?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they know about your past as a background actor.

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<v Speaker 1>My kids like think it's so fun because I showed

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<v Speaker 1>him the picture of the three of us at the bathroom. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they think it's very cool. They know I'm doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't wait to hear about it. Um And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I still I have so many friends who are like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe that that was you. They knew the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, so they think it's amazing that I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I like, not, I was not the actor, but like

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<v Speaker 1>they think it's like the coolest thing. So, yeah, it does.

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<v Speaker 1>It still comes up. It's so funny. Now you remember

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<v Speaker 1>being nervous for me? Do you remember? Did I seem nervous?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you? If anything, you you were very focused

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<v Speaker 1>and concentrated and maybe a little stressed. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that was my feeling. It was an

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly stressful day. I remember it. I remember set was

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<v Speaker 1>on edge. We were all like, it was not a

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<v Speaker 1>fun It's I have to say, like, I do not

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<v Speaker 1>have fond memories of it. I have like I get

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<v Speaker 1>like not in my stomach when I think about that

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<v Speaker 1>day on set. Yeah, I think people also thought you

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<v Speaker 1>were gonna cut your hair. Sure. I thought you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>cut your hair shorter than you did, so when you

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<v Speaker 1>actually cut it, I was like okay. Like it was

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<v Speaker 1>like more of like a like a relaxed, relaxed moment

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<v Speaker 1>for me, because I thought you were going to go

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<v Speaker 1>like up, like bobbing it up. So seeing that you

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<v Speaker 1>lifted it up and cut it, I was like okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like that that. I was given very specific

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<v Speaker 1>instructions about where I was allowed to cut, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was was a very stressful day. And Michael came

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<v Speaker 1>out and said, you know, okay, show me where, show

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<v Speaker 1>me where, and I was like like right here, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was like lower and I was like no, because

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to go a little shorter, and Michael really

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<v Speaker 1>had a spot that he he really wanted me to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Um. Now I have a question. Has anybody

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<v Speaker 1>asked you because you're holding the scissors at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, you get to decide where the cut happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever think, even for a moment about cutting

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<v Speaker 1>it in a different spot than people told you to? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>not really, mostly because I didn't want to screw anything

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<v Speaker 1>up for the one take we have on camera. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was like things were very set, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>had we only had a certain amount of time we

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<v Speaker 1>had we could rehearse it and and then you get

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<v Speaker 1>the one take with the scissors. But it also was

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<v Speaker 1>a little like the way she cut it, she meaning me,

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<v Speaker 1>the way I cut my hair. I just swung my

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<v Speaker 1>hair around and then grabbed it and cut it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>like so I knew there was a margin of error

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<v Speaker 1>that was kind of out of my control. But I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely didn't want to do anything that was going to

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<v Speaker 1>make anybody mad at me. And I also knew that

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to cut it in a place where there

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<v Speaker 1>was still room for then when I got a real

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<v Speaker 1>haircut where that could still it was still going to

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<v Speaker 1>get shorter from that wherever I cut it, because I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to cut a blunt cut and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Lorie was going to put layers in it and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So I knew it was going to end up being

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<v Speaker 1>a little shorter than wherever I cut it. So I

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<v Speaker 1>also didn't want my hair to be too short. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a really stressful. Remember the rehearsing and blocking

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<v Speaker 1>of that scene where then Jeff McCracken would yell before

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<v Speaker 1>we got to it because they wanted to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>we got the scene all the way up until the

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<v Speaker 1>point of the cut perfectly. And yeah, I remember being like,

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<v Speaker 1>you can say stop in a normal voice. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>because Jeff as an actor, Jeff took on. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember watching his face when he faces of the emotions

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<v Speaker 1>of the actor on the scene he was on the

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<v Speaker 1>set with, which made him totally find myself doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do that, Danielle, you're watching the monitor. I

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<v Speaker 1>totally do it too. I'm constant. I'm I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm as exaggerated as Jeff, but I'm definitely like putting

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<v Speaker 1>myself through whatever the actor right when I'm directing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, that's what makes I also do it, even

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<v Speaker 1>with hair in the face. Like I was watching you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just directed a movie. I was telling you about

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<v Speaker 1>it on camera there was a piece of hair in

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<v Speaker 1>one of the actor's faces and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, and it was like, Okay, that's not gonna work. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think we we all got that from from Jeff. Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>are you still in the business. So I did like

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<v Speaker 1>a couple more things after your show, um, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>very little things and then I ended up going into

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<v Speaker 1>the skincare business, so I became an esthetician. I have

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<v Speaker 1>my own skincare line now called Skincare, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I've been doing literally since. Like I was twunny, simply,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your website skin care? Yeah? Do you go at website? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's just simply just skinkcare dot com. It's all natural.

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<v Speaker 1>It's out of Orange County, so it's doing really well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good. It's I should send you some please, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we we will all take it, you guys. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It works really well. I need it because we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how I washed my entire body with head

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<v Speaker 1>and shoulders. Was that in this episode? I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. So I need some sort of skincare

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<v Speaker 1>regime because the one apparently good. It's simple, like, it's great,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay, perfect. I don't have dandrif on my face?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I write her? Do? I? I don't know. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Jessica was really nice to reconnect with you. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for being here with us. I'm I'm so glad you're

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<v Speaker 1>in that iconic scene and set with me. We have

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<v Speaker 1>this adorable picture of the three of us that I'll

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<v Speaker 1>put on and put on the Instagram and thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for being here with us. I love it. It It was

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<v Speaker 1>so good talking to you guys. Thank you for having

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<v Speaker 1>me as well. Thanks for joining us. It's so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>She's so sweet, so sweet, and so many background actors

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<v Speaker 1>from Orange County, Orange County, which makes perfect sense. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess for people who aren't out here that that can

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<v Speaker 1>be a hike. I mean, I'm from Orange County. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's at the very I mean, with great traffic,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still at least an hour. Oh yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>now with with traffic, traffic, it's an hour and twenty minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>and with traffic you're looking at two hours plus. It

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<v Speaker 1>makes the question why not kids in Los Angeles? Like

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<v Speaker 1>why didn't why didn't teenagers in Los Angeles become background?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe because they kind of grew up around the industry

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<v Speaker 1>and it just took about it. And yeah, and whereas

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<v Speaker 1>like in the Orange County you'd be like, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>right over there and get these jobs. That's interesting. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but it is. That's and then they

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<v Speaker 1>all seem the other thing that's very interesting so far,

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<v Speaker 1>and we we didn't ask Jessica, well, she kind of

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<v Speaker 1>told this this, but it doesn't seem like you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of were on the circuit where it's you did nine

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<v Speaker 1>O two and no, you did step by step, you did,

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<v Speaker 1>you did, It's like you had you did Party of five.

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<v Speaker 1>There are certain shows that you did everywhere. Interesting. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Our next guest is a woman named Melody Morrero, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was a background actor in seasons two and three,

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<v Speaker 1>but then she was featured in season two, episode twelve

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<v Speaker 1>called Turnaround, and she was given a name Jacqueline. So

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to hear about how that happened and

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<v Speaker 1>who Jacqueline was. Hi, Oh my gosh, it is so

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<v Speaker 1>cool to see you guys. It's been almost thirty years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just set. It's been eight years. That's amazing. A

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<v Speaker 1>few years. It's so good to see you. So you

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<v Speaker 1>were a background actor in seasons two and three, but

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<v Speaker 1>then you were featured as Jacqueline in an episode. So

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<v Speaker 1>how did that come about? I was, Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I was so over the moon that day. They said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen you around, said a lot. You were the

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<v Speaker 1>Um I was the waitress at Chubby's a few times,

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<v Speaker 1>and UM, I don't know. It's just happenstance. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just trying not to stick out too much. But when

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<v Speaker 1>one of the producers came up, I think I forget

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<v Speaker 1>her name. The one of the assistant producers said we

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<v Speaker 1>have a spot for you. Just come with us now,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I was like, okay, whatever you whatever you say,

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<v Speaker 1>and then had me walk with with Eric. Oh really,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the two of us together? Is that why I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the picture I have. I have a photo

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<v Speaker 1>of us together. It's so great. So where we dad?

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<v Speaker 1>Where we were Eric and Jacqueline dating at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>is it? Yeah, we were totally a thing. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>write a whole backstory? Is there a history there, scripted

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<v Speaker 1>idea about us dating or the Yeah, they didn't exactly

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<v Speaker 1>go with that, but yeah, I just come around the

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<v Speaker 1>corner of the lockers and Eric, you you walk up

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<v Speaker 1>and say hey, Jacqueline, I was just headed that way

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<v Speaker 1>or something along those lines, and I was so geeked out.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so much fun. Man, that's so cool. I'm surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>That must have been the episode that they had Eric

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<v Speaker 1>girl crazy that one episode. Yeah, No, I'm kidding, that

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<v Speaker 1>was Eric's thing? Was It was so great that we

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<v Speaker 1>got a chance to do that. That's very cool. How

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<v Speaker 1>did you become a background actor? UM? In college, one

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<v Speaker 1>of my friends was telling me about she was going

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<v Speaker 1>to a movie set the next day and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you What are you doing? She said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm an extra and I was like, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea what that means. And she told me

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<v Speaker 1>about what she was doing, and it was Central Casting

1:12:15.240 --> 1:12:18.519
<v Speaker 1>at the time, and I was a young mom in

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<v Speaker 1>college and I had a mouth to feed, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>this will be a cool way to make a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of extra cash. So I did it, and UM

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<v Speaker 1>did a number of things, but we be Scrolled happened

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<v Speaker 1>to be absolutely my favorite, obviously, But I did it

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<v Speaker 1>for two years, two and a half, Yeah, three seasons almost,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did an episode of Friends and Er and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things. But yeah, first it was just

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<v Speaker 1>a way to make some cash. And then I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll get bit by the acting bug. And that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't exactly plan pad out that way, but yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>how I kind of stumbled upon this. So do you

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<v Speaker 1>still work in the entertainment industry? What do you do now? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in human resources. Yeah, I went from background acting

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<v Speaker 1>to human resources. So yeah, for what company? For Toyota?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh nice, Yeah, that's cool. It's a great gig. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about to celebrate twenty three years with Toyota, so but

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much my my very last extra gig was Buffy

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<v Speaker 1>the Vampire Slayer. I was hired by Toyota the next week,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was like, cool, I guess I have a career.

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<v Speaker 1>The acting thing is just not gonna help from Buffy

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<v Speaker 1>the Vampire Slayer to the career you're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of your life. That's kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of cool. Yeah, people like, what was your

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<v Speaker 1>last job? I was like, a vampire slayer? What did

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<v Speaker 1>you do? I'm looking at a picture you sent us

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<v Speaker 1>of me and you and another one of our background

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<v Speaker 1>actors and script am I doing? What earth is this? Pose?

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<v Speaker 1>It's You're the only one who didn't realize that you

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<v Speaker 1>weren't in a chorus line at the time, I Danielle,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but it was adorable and I loved it,

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<v Speaker 1>and clearly I've treasured it for twenty years. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so glad you guys are in like matching denim too. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I completely recognize you. By the way, I totally recognize you.

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<v Speaker 1>You do not, I swear to God. From the second

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the picture, I completely recognize you because you

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<v Speaker 1>did multiple episodes, and again we were around the same age,

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<v Speaker 1>so we were always kind of together. You were in

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like you were in the classroom scenes as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid. Um we were. It was always kind of

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<v Speaker 1>around Eric. So yeah, I recognized you from the second

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the phone. Oh my gosh. Oh that just

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<v Speaker 1>warms my heart. I wasn't sure if you guys would remember,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I'm looking at the picture. I'm like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I totally remember you and being in the hallways with

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<v Speaker 1>you with the lockers and all that stuff. Yeah, that picture.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they made me change my shirt though right

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<v Speaker 1>after they're like, yeah, you both can't. We're denthely, so

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<v Speaker 1>see they're like, Danielle's wearing denim, take it off. That's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much what would happened. I mean, I'd walk into

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<v Speaker 1>certain outfits and they'd be like, yeah, honey, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna work. So that's so funny. You in So Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>at the time we were you were doing the show. Yeah, yes,

1:15:03.640 --> 1:15:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I lived near Pasadena, so just a quick quick ride

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<v Speaker 1>on the four or five every day. Yeah, it was local.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm going to ask you, but I have a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling your favorite scene was probably when you were featured

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<v Speaker 1>as Jacqueline with Will. But do you have any like

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<v Speaker 1>other real specific memory of something that just really stands

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<v Speaker 1>out from your time on Boy Meats World? I do.

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<v Speaker 1>That is definitely my favorite. But there's just a flashback

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<v Speaker 1>to the fifties. You were in that episode two. I

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<v Speaker 1>was in that one. I had a poodle skirt, the

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<v Speaker 1>pony tails scarf um and we were at Chubby's in

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<v Speaker 1>the scene that I was in. So that was one

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<v Speaker 1>of my other favorites. Was just because I got to

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<v Speaker 1>go through full like hair and makeup and wardrobe and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that wasn't really that was a fun costume.

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<v Speaker 1>So they provide Did they provide the costume for you

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<v Speaker 1>that time? You didn't have to bring your own? That's

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<v Speaker 1>so cool. Yeah, it was cool. I was looking for

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<v Speaker 1>it and I forgot the title of the episode, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a good one. I can't wait till we

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<v Speaker 1>get to those. I don't know. We know so many

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<v Speaker 1>of the flashbacks at different times, but the fifties one

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<v Speaker 1>was the was the was that the toaster one? I

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<v Speaker 1>think that was the forties? I don't remember. We can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember we did the forties. The forties? Was the cat

1:16:14.600 --> 1:16:16.880
<v Speaker 1>that took us from the cat from Sabrina took us

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<v Speaker 1>back in time from episode? I think it was the toaster.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something that the coaster back to the fifties. That's

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<v Speaker 1>when we're like most of the cast of Happy Days

1:16:24.840 --> 1:16:28.519
<v Speaker 1>was on the episode, right, I'm like Shanzarelli or whatever. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get a lot of I'll get a

1:16:30.520 --> 1:16:33.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of emails telling us exactly how it happen. We

1:16:33.520 --> 1:16:37.799
<v Speaker 1>should stop talking about it now, that's so funny. Well, Melody,

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<v Speaker 1>we thank you so much for being here with us,

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you for for being a part of Boy

1:16:41.880 --> 1:16:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Meets World with us all that twenty plus years ago.

1:16:45.680 --> 1:16:49.040
<v Speaker 1>A lot to us. Oh, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>including me. This was so much fun. I was so

1:16:51.200 --> 1:16:53.439
<v Speaker 1>stoked when I got the email. So it's just so

1:16:53.479 --> 1:16:55.160
<v Speaker 1>great to see you all again. It was so great

1:16:55.200 --> 1:16:58.240
<v Speaker 1>to see you. Is there is there anywhere if if

1:16:58.240 --> 1:17:00.200
<v Speaker 1>people want to want to find you could do? Are

1:17:00.200 --> 1:17:03.519
<v Speaker 1>you on social media or anything? Yeah? Yeah, Melody m

1:17:03.800 --> 1:17:09.320
<v Speaker 1>M one three is my handle. I'm pretty sure I

1:17:09.320 --> 1:17:12.320
<v Speaker 1>don't message myself a lot, so I forget so funny.

1:17:12.800 --> 1:17:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for joining us. It was great to see you,

1:17:18.640 --> 1:17:22.080
<v Speaker 1>and everybody is so nice. I totally remember, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the picture, Like at first I was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of and then I completely remember, because again, we had

1:17:26.680 --> 1:17:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the extras were kind of extras. I don't like that connotation.

1:17:30.240 --> 1:17:34.920
<v Speaker 1>The background actors were were like compartmentalized, so it's you

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<v Speaker 1>all had your kind of classroom extras, I said it again,

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<v Speaker 1>which I was never really a part of, so you know,

1:17:41.400 --> 1:17:43.479
<v Speaker 1>like I got to meet Dusty and everybody else. But

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<v Speaker 1>then as we grew up and Eric was more involved

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<v Speaker 1>with other people around as opposed to just being in

1:17:47.760 --> 1:17:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the school, there was a group of background actors where

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<v Speaker 1>I was with a Lot and Justin and Melody. Those

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<v Speaker 1>are all the kind of the same people that were

1:17:53.320 --> 1:17:55.200
<v Speaker 1>around there, which is really neat. So I sort of

1:17:55.240 --> 1:17:57.320
<v Speaker 1>buried this lead. But it actually didn't occur to me

1:17:57.360 --> 1:18:02.080
<v Speaker 1>until we were already recording this episode. But my one

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<v Speaker 1>of my best friends, um, one of my closest friends,

1:18:05.680 --> 1:18:08.240
<v Speaker 1>He's coming over to my house for dinner tonight. He

1:18:08.280 --> 1:18:10.320
<v Speaker 1>was going to bring this up. He was in my

1:18:10.360 --> 1:18:12.559
<v Speaker 1>wedding party. Actually, he was one of my group's been

1:18:12.560 --> 1:18:15.080
<v Speaker 1>at my wedding. His name is Chris Levitts and he's

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<v Speaker 1>a director from a writer director, and I met him

1:18:18.120 --> 1:18:20.320
<v Speaker 1>because I was I acted in a movie that he

1:18:20.400 --> 1:18:23.080
<v Speaker 1>directed in my twenties and that's when we became friends.

1:18:23.080 --> 1:18:27.639
<v Speaker 1>But he was an extra on Boy Leats World, one

1:18:27.680 --> 1:18:30.280
<v Speaker 1>of his first jobs as a kid, and it was

1:18:30.280 --> 1:18:33.080
<v Speaker 1>when he was under age, I think because he was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid actor, so he remember seeing his s but I,

1:18:36.040 --> 1:18:37.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, I talked him about it because I remember

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<v Speaker 1>when we first talked about doing this episode. I was like, oh,

1:18:39.280 --> 1:18:42.400
<v Speaker 1>you should come on. He actually doesn't have many memories.

1:18:42.439 --> 1:18:44.479
<v Speaker 1>I think he only did one or two episodes, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was one of the first things he said to

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<v Speaker 1>me when we started working either He's like, you know

1:18:48.320 --> 1:18:50.160
<v Speaker 1>we I was actually on your show back of this.

1:18:50.280 --> 1:18:52.360
<v Speaker 1>So I've always been curious if I can see him

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<v Speaker 1>in an episode, So as we do our are it

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<v Speaker 1>would probably be the second or third season, so I

1:18:57.400 --> 1:18:58.920
<v Speaker 1>have to keep an eye out for him somewhere in

1:18:58.920 --> 1:19:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the background of one of our epis. Another one of

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<v Speaker 1>our background actors was cal penn Real Yes really yes.

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<v Speaker 1>In what he was in like a sports scene. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get him on our show. Let's talk about um,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think the chances so so we're watching a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of alone right now. Do you think the chances

1:19:18.880 --> 1:19:21.759
<v Speaker 1>are that Dusty maybe lives a life off the grid,

1:19:21.800 --> 1:19:25.920
<v Speaker 1>which is why he knows nothing about the podcast communing

1:19:25.960 --> 1:19:28.720
<v Speaker 1>with the Bears? Yeah, like maybe we just Dusty has

1:19:28.760 --> 1:19:31.320
<v Speaker 1>no idea because he's like skinning something right now or

1:19:31.439 --> 1:19:34.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, making a fire with sticks or pete. I

1:19:34.880 --> 1:19:39.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm still I'm still determined. I'm still holding

1:19:39.439 --> 1:19:43.600
<v Speaker 1>her Dusty for Dusty. So well, this was really a

1:19:43.680 --> 1:19:46.240
<v Speaker 1>great way to wrap up our twenty three and Me episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much to twenty three and Me for

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<v Speaker 1>helping us get to know our backgrounds both personally and

1:19:52.080 --> 1:19:55.719
<v Speaker 1>from from boy Meat's world. It was really a really

1:19:55.760 --> 1:19:58.960
<v Speaker 1>smart way of bringing this all together. And like I said,

1:19:59.080 --> 1:20:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I am really I did. Now that I have a

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1:20:04.000 --> 1:20:05.960
<v Speaker 1>about myself, but now I can take to my doctor

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