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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor Protection of iHeartRadio. I'm Annie Reese.

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Speaker 2: And I'm Lauren Vogel bamb And today we have a

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Speaker 2: short episode for you, a savor snack perhaps about pumpkins

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Speaker 2: and like pumpkin shenanigans and what kind of pumpkin shenanigans

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Speaker 2: people are getting up.

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Speaker 3: To a lot as it turns out.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I just carved a pumpkin last night,

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Speaker 2: which is tame but wholesome.

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Speaker 1: I painted pumpkin recently. Oh and it was a beautiful.

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Speaker 1: It was beautiful.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was a half Star Wars Night Sky and the

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Speaker 1: other half was Pride themed.

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Speaker 3: And my friend ran over it. Oh no, accidentally.

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Speaker 4: Oh but sorry, I have.

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Speaker 3: This losses shook me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can tell.

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Speaker 1: She sent me a picture of it and was like,

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Speaker 1: murder has occurred.

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Speaker 3: I would take her to court immediately, pumpkin court.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, yes, I hadn't carved my main pumpkin yet

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Speaker 1: because something about my apartment. I never had this problem

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Speaker 1: when I was growing up in North Georgia, but's something

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Speaker 1: about my apartment Atlanta. It rots in like two to

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Speaker 1: three days.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, so you're keeping it fresh for Halloween. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the pumpkin is purchased, but the carving much closer to Halloween. Yes,

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Speaker 2: what design did you do?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Just a face?

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Speaker 4: Just a face.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like a little winki face. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if it's effective. I'm not I'm not an artist.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a visual artist. That's my My medium is words.

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Speaker 3: Hmm, I agree. Yeah, I just wasn't expecting such a statement.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have this, like I have a really

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Speaker 2: overactive like sense of like perfectionism or kind of a

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Speaker 2: need for competitive one upmanship or something along those lines.

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Speaker 2: I hate being bad at things.

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Speaker 3: I hate it.

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Speaker 2: And so yeah, when when like other people are better

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Speaker 2: at art than me, I'm a little bit mad. It's

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Speaker 2: a completely useless emotion. I should probably figure out how

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Speaker 2: to not.

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Speaker 3: Do that anymore.

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Speaker 2: But but insecurity, that's the word that I'm generally looking for.

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Speaker 3: Very secure about my pumpkin art. I bet your pumpkin

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Speaker 3: art is great.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm sure it's just fine. I'm sure it's excellent.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you put a candle in that sucker. It's terrific. Yes, Well,

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Speaker 2: this went a little bit deep.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, guys, I know we're getting to the depth of

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Speaker 3: the matter. We won't go into it.

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Speaker 1: In this episode that I was telling Lauren before, I

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Speaker 1: almost went on big tangent about pumpkin revenge horror movies.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, A surprisingly wide category.

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Speaker 1: It is, actually, and one of them, at Pumpkinhead, is

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Speaker 1: pretty well reviewed.

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Speaker 3: People like that one.

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Speaker 2: Oh I love Pumpkinhead. I don't think it's not really

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Speaker 2: pumpkin related strictly, not.

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Speaker 1: Strictly, but it is a category. And I will say, Lauren,

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Speaker 1: I just just treat your pumpkin. Well, don't slight your pumpkin,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 4: See that.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing. I don't want to slight the pumpkin

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Speaker 2: with an inadequate carting.

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Speaker 1: Oh, the pumpkin, it's probably already a little upset that insight.

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Speaker 3: Been carved out.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it could be freeing.

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Speaker 3: Sure, let's go with that.

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Speaker 1: Let's ignore the whole category of pumpkin horror movies.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sure, anyway, not to scare.

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Speaker 4: You, No, no, we don't.

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Speaker 2: We don't want to. We don't want to scare anyone.

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Speaker 2: That's not We're we're not trying to be too spooky here.

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Speaker 2: Although I am going to start off with a bit

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Speaker 2: of pumpkin related news that could in some ways be

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Speaker 2: considered spooky. So in in the city of Cleveland on

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Speaker 2: giant inflatable pumpkin escaped its lawn and blocked off a

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Speaker 2: whole street. Terre of that, the BBC reported that no

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Speaker 2: harm was done to officers or the pumpkin during the incident.

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Speaker 2: And uh, and there were photos and it's hard to

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Speaker 2: tell from the photos, but like similar, I tried to

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Speaker 2: and it turns out that they come in sizes from

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Speaker 2: big pumpkin. So yeah, it's hard. It was hard to

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Speaker 3: These inflatables, they can call some mayhem.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, speaking of mayhem, perhaps more controlled mayhem.

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Speaker 2: We need to talk about pumpkin smashing, okay, because you know, okay,

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Speaker 2: so like we all use a lot of pumpkins for

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Speaker 2: jack lanterns here in the United States. It's weirdly difficult

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Speaker 2: to track down actual numbers of pumpkins sold for carving.

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Speaker 2: But that being said, something like a little less than

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Speaker 2: half of Americans, about one hundred and fifty million of us,

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Speaker 2: say that we plan to carve a pumpkin for Halloween

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Speaker 2: every year. I don't know how many people actually wind

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Speaker 2: up doing it, but there you go. However, these pumpkins,

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Speaker 2: of course, do not last forever. As you said, sometimes

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Speaker 2: it's a very brief life that a jack o lantern has.

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Speaker 2: And when we send pumpkins to landfills, it turns out

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Speaker 2: they leech water because they're kind of mostly water. They

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Speaker 2: leech water that carries gross stuff from the other trash

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Speaker 2: out into our local groundwater systems. So if you can

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Speaker 2: compost your pumpkin, that's great. And there are some other

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Speaker 2: local initiatives to make it more fun. Enter the aforementioned

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Speaker 2: pumpkin smashes. So Illinois produces the most pumpkins in America,

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Speaker 2: and starting in twenty fourteen, this environmental nonprofit called Scarce

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Speaker 2: started hosting smashes. You bring your pumpkins, they provide like

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Speaker 2: giant mallets and other tools, and you utterly destroy some

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Speaker 2: gourds and they compost the results.

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Speaker 3: Wow. That sounds so fun, right.

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Speaker 1: Also, if no one has made a it was a smash,

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Speaker 1: it was a pumpkin smash song.

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Speaker 2: Do that please? Yes, it's right there, it's right there. Yeah. Apparently,

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Speaker 2: over the past ten years, Scarce alone has composted over

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Speaker 2: one two hundred tons of pumpkins through these events, thus

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Speaker 2: diverting some two hundred and seventy thousand gallons of water

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, they are not the only ones who

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Speaker 2: host these events. The University of Illinois Extension Department host

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Speaker 2: smashes now too. There are I think that there are

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Speaker 2: you might be able to toss your pumpkin in with

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Speaker 2: yard trimming bags. Check with your local services.

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Speaker 1: This sounds really cathartic. So if oh, yeah, any listener

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do compost, and I'm like, I am definitely

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Speaker 2: going to uh do this to my pumpkin before I

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Speaker 2: put it in the compost. I'm not making it better

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Speaker 1: No, now that I think about it, we're feeding into

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Speaker 2: Well, this next one isn't going to help either, uh,

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Speaker 2: because we also have to talk about punkin, check in,

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Speaker 2: or chunkin as it is sometimes referred to. So this

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Speaker 2: is a perhaps more spectacular way to get rid of pumpkins,

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Speaker 2: and that is by building a device from which you

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Speaker 2: hurl that pumpkin as far as you can. This is

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Speaker 2: we are talking about the sport of pumpkin checking or

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Speaker 2: chunkin you if you seach use. The most famous gathering

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Speaker 2: and competition for this was the World Championship Pumpkin Chunkin,

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Speaker 2: which got started in Delaware in nineteen eighty six and

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Speaker 2: using neither electricity nor explosives.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh.

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Speaker 2: Similar competitions popped up around the world. Teams build like

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Speaker 2: whatever kind of device they want within the parameters. You know, catapults, trebochets,

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Speaker 2: air cannons, and yeah, send a weight specified pumpkin a flying.

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Speaker 2: five hundred and forty five feet. That's one thousand, six

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Speaker 2: hundred and ninety meters. That's a long way. It was

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Speaker 3: Hold on, let me just put this pumpkin in my

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Speaker 3: air cannon. Then I'll be with you. Oh.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, the World Championship Punkin Chunkin ran into some legal

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Speaker 2: like basically realized that liability laws are not in the

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Speaker 2: have amateurs building big machines to fling heavy guards around.

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Speaker 1: Well, it is quite impressive if you've ever seen it.

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Speaker 1: The pictures of what people make.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, made really fascinating.

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Speaker 3: Really fascinating, very creative.

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Speaker 2: And I guess speaking of world records, we do have

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Speaker 2: in our Pumpkin episode, the field of giant pumpkin growing

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Speaker 2: development of a new varietal called the Atlantic Giant in

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine by this Canadian grower whose name is

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Speaker 3: And I love that.

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Speaker 2: I love that mister Dill produced this amazing pumpkin. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: spaking at punts, we got the first thousand pound pumpkin

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three in Minnesota was two thousand, seven hundred

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of pumpkin. Wow.

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Speaker 2: The record holder, a man by the name of Travis Geinger.

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Speaker 2: Ginger told Slate magazine that he started the year with

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Speaker 2: two seedlings. You know, it's good to have a backup

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Speaker 2: in case one fails, as one did. As it turned

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Speaker 2: out for him, he told them quote. After the seeds germinated,

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Speaker 2: be right there as they grew. They had good soil, heating, cables,

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Speaker 2: because I skipped the opening day of fishing to take

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Speaker 2: care of a giant pumpkin. This is so wholesome. They're

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Speaker 2: also it's not cheap. I hadn't considered the costs not

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Speaker 2: cheap to grow a giant pumpkin. Ginger reports that he

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Speaker 2: There is prize money for winners of the growing contests,

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Speaker 2: of that for top winners. There is a global regulating

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Speaker 2: body for pumpkin sized contests. It's called the Great Pumpkin Commonwealth.

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Speaker 3: Hmmm, what a great name. Yeah, Oh, flawless, excellent.

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Speaker 1: I feel like they need robes, oh right, right, befitting

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: But there's more to do with giant pumpkins than just

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Speaker 1: There certainly is, and I believe we talked about this

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Speaker 1: in our Pumpkin episode. You can carve out these big

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Speaker 3: And people do it. Yeah, and they race in them

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Speaker 3: wouldn't they, Why wouldn't they? Exactly So.

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Speaker 1: Recently Tualatin, Oregon, held its annual West Coast Giant Pumpkin Regatta.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, people in.

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Speaker 1: Costumes took the helm of carved out gourds and paddled

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Speaker 1: and previous competitor John Cestek Sea Stack took the top

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Speaker 1: prize while dressed as a taco. He gave credit to

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Speaker 1: his vessel, which he called the perfect pumpkin.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he went into detail about how it's shape and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you.

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Speaker 1: Have not looked up pictures of this, it's glorious.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's so glorious. It's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're like people dressed as Santa Claus Paddally,

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Speaker 3: It's very good.

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Speaker 2: Again, just incredibly incredibly aholesome. I love all of this.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and yeah, they If you want more details, you

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Speaker 1: come from and who carves them out, because it's not

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Speaker 1: necessarily competitors often. But if you have been listeners, Oh,

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Speaker 1: if you have pictures, oh my goodness, you are honor

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Speaker 1: bound Yeah to contact us.

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Speaker 2: Yes, if you have experience with any of the things

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Speaker 2: send us a photo of your pumpkin, yes you don't.

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Speaker 2: You don't need to be insecure like me.

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Speaker 4: You can no.

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Speaker 3: Show that pumpkin. It deserves some love and admiration.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, let's all treat them nicely.

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Speaker 3: Yes, until we let them rot.

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Speaker 4: Oops.

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Speaker 3: Hey, sorry pumpkins, no wonder, there's a horror. It's the

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Speaker 3: circle of life. It moves us. All.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's about what we have to say about pumpkins

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Speaker 1: for now. But if you have any experience with any

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Speaker 1: of this, if you have seen any pumpkin based horror movies, please.

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Speaker 3: Let us know.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, you can email us at hello at savorpod

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Speaker 2: Thanks as always to us producers Dylan Fagan and Andrew Howard.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to you for listening, and we hope that lots

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Speaker 4: In a pumpkin boat