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Speaker 2: He playclock, getting short Darnold back to his end zone,

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Speaker 3: Shot, game over.

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Speaker 4: Game over Byron Young with a safety agent zero calls

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Speaker 4: game FoST Thursday Night Football.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to NFL Daily. That was the great JB.

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Speaker 5: Long of k SPN in Los Angeles, not only on

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Speaker 5: the call, but on the show.

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Speaker 3: Still at the stadium. I made it my way through.

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Speaker 5: Traffic, got to the car very quickly, drove home, and

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Speaker 3: JB.

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Speaker 5: Long, the radio play by play man of the Rams.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to NFL Daily. Wow, I can feel like I

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Speaker 5: got to take a breath here on a night of offense. Yes,

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Speaker 5: I know it's a long day.

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Speaker 1: Good to see you. A couple of things.

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Speaker 6: One, I have commandeered someone's office just off the press

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Speaker 6: home and Secondly to all the Vikings listeners, Yes, I

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Speaker 6: did clean up that call by saying blatant face mask.

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Speaker 6: They missed it, the game should be continuing. I get it.

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Speaker 6: I feel your pain. We talked with Byron Young after

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Speaker 6: But same difference. Tough break, tough break for the now

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I was up there in the three

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Speaker 5: hundred section. No clue there was a face mask. In fact,

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Speaker 5: what face mask was that?

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Speaker 5: Kevin O'Connell. You know, if we're if we're talking about already,

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Speaker 7: You know, it looked like you got a pretty good

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So it feels unfortunate almost start on this because

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Speaker 5: So you know, I was sitting in the crowd. Of course,

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about Cooper Cup.

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Speaker 5: And it wasn't that touchdown drive. It wasn't any of

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Speaker 3: That was absolute total.

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Speaker 6: Again, I'm just shaking my head at all the incredible

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Speaker 1: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 3: No, you're not, You're not wrong. My daughter got to

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Speaker 5: but that that was. I love seeing great football and

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Speaker 5: but we went into people wondering like, is this Cooper

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Speaker 6: Well, here's why I think it's significant. We're not here

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Speaker 3: Tonight, great call there, JB.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and you did. He'd the call.

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Speaker 5: They called you up two and so you didn't a

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Speaker 5: Man, they really pulled fast one on everyone because Puka

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Speaker 9: I'm excited about this journey ahead. And you know, we've

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Speaker 5: And while we're here, you had Sean McVay on, you know,

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Speaker 3: How was that?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Wow.

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Speaker 6: He and John Madden are the only two men post

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Speaker 3: With the Madden Cruiser out front, by the way, I.

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Speaker 3: Son on the way back.

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Speaker 5: That's crazy because you know the Rams, it's not like, oh,

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Speaker 3: You know, everyone's going to talk.

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Speaker 5: The first Robinson touchdown was just like a quick, quick

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going to take it back to the defense

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Speaker 1: They've scored on defense three straight games now.

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Speaker 6: But I think the most important thing to highlight is

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Speaker 5: Verse especially was getting pressure after pressure, hit after a hit,

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Speaker 5: and just driving him back. And those are my kind

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Speaker 5: of pass rushers, maybe not the fancy ones, but like

441
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Speaker 5: the Jenevian Clowney types. When Clowney was at his best,

442
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Speaker 5: who's just stronger than the guy you know across from him,

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Speaker 5: and versus that guy, and he has such a motor.

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Speaker 5: I was really keeping an eye on Verse all night

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Speaker 5: and when he wasn't on the field. They just don't

446
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Speaker 5: have as much juice like he is that important for them.

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Speaker 5: If you're watching on YouTube, you can see how the

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Speaker 5: lights go off because because JB hasn't moved. But I'm

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Speaker 5: just gonna keep talking, which is pretty normal here on

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Speaker 5: NFL Daily.

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Speaker 3: You fixed it.

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Speaker 6: Good job, dav good save. Yeah, the motion didn't do it.

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Speaker 6: I had a hop up up and actually press the

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Speaker 6: button again. We should be good for another fifteen minutes

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Speaker 6: or so.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be

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Speaker 5: back in just a second. Let's knock a little viking.

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Speaker 5: I'll circle back a little bit in a second. But

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Speaker 5: you know, they start out this game getting two touchdowns

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Speaker 5: in the first two drives. Donald has all the time

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Speaker 5: in the world in the pocket. I kept writing down

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Speaker 5: in my notes, you know, just pick. He could just

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Speaker 5: pick whoever he wanted to. There was like two or

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Speaker 5: three guys open on every play. And you haven't seen

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Speaker 5: the coverage bus out of the rams the last couple

466
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Speaker 5: of weeks that you saw early. But there were open

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Speaker 5: receivers because they weren't getting pressure and everything is rolling,

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Speaker 5: and justin Jefferson is starting out fast. He ends up

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Speaker 5: with eight for one point fifteen. You know, what do

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Speaker 5: you think it was that changed for them? And what

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Speaker 5: they've done so well for most of this season is

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Speaker 5: keeping Darnold mostly com I don't think he had a

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Speaker 5: bad game tonight. It wasn't really on him. He didn't

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Speaker 5: have the ball aton either in the second half. That

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Speaker 5: was part of it.

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Speaker 6: No, I was super impressed with Kevin O'Connell's script or

477
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Speaker 6: dirty dozen or whatever it was to open that game,

478
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Speaker 6: because they drove down the field twice, locked in and

479
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Speaker 6: rightly so on justin Jefferson right, The Rams just played

480
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Speaker 6: a Raiders team that traded away one of the best

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Speaker 6: receivers in football, Devonte Adams before they came to so far,

482
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Speaker 6: and then five days later, like literally the best receiver

483
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Speaker 6: on the planet steps into your office and you got

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Speaker 6: to contend with that, and you felt that difference, You

485
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Speaker 6: felt that mismatch. But then when they got in those

486
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Speaker 6: tight red areas, they went to their secondary right, they

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Speaker 6: didn't throw the touchdown passes to Jefferson. They threw it

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Speaker 6: to Josh Oliver and what trent sherfield right, like kind

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Speaker 6: of the misdirection using the decoy of Jefferson it was

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Speaker 6: a beautiful game plan, and Aaron Jones, you know, running

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Speaker 6: pass continues to have a great season. There's a lot

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Speaker 6: of a lot of good there. I'm sure Rams did

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Speaker 6: make some adjustments in their secondary to try and take

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Speaker 6: that first read away. But I think the subject that

495
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Speaker 6: we just touched on the pressure and the discomfort in

496
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Speaker 6: the pocket probably the biggest thing. By the way, just

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Speaker 6: to circle back before that that field goal conversation we

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Speaker 6: talked about earlier.

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Speaker 1: They should have had a touchdown.

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Speaker 6: Like Donold does well to duct the initial Russ attacks

501
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Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage, hits I think Jalen Naylor over

502
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Speaker 6: the middle, he just drops it. Otherwise that's a touchdown.

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Speaker 6: It's a completely different game. I think that was one

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Speaker 6: of the pivot points, a missed opportunity there for the

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Speaker 6: Vikings to get their third touchdown.

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Speaker 3: See that's what live.

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Speaker 5: I should have watched the replay on the big Jumbo

508
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Speaker 5: John because I did not realize that was a drop tho.

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Speaker 5: That was like a good defensive player.

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Speaker 3: It was just tight there.

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Speaker 5: See this is why I want to listen to more

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Speaker 5: JB Long calls. But I just feel like this is

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Speaker 5: the ultimate, you know, radio play by play on radio

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Speaker 5: play by play, rivalry matchup, maybe a revenge game.

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Speaker 3: JB. Long I don't know. After he came in second

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Speaker 3: last year on the Calls of the Year.

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Speaker 5: Now it wasn't too Paul Allen, but Paul Allen has

518
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Speaker 5: probably won it before and as an annual contender. So

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Speaker 5: let's listen to Paul Allen's call of Justin Jefferson's crazy

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Speaker 5: catch down the sideline in the second half.

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Speaker 2: Darnold thirteen of sixteen one forty six and two. He's

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Speaker 2: out of the shotgun on first down, puts Josh Oliver

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Speaker 2: in motion to the right, Sam back to.

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Speaker 3: Pass Pate left at about the ten. It's Paul, hold,

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Speaker 3: are you kidding me? Can by just are you.

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Speaker 10: Just saying hit the fuve yard line?

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Speaker 7: Pease?

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Speaker 4: Putting on a show right.

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Speaker 3: Next to the Holy One. That was a good call.

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Speaker 3: Put that on the Calls of the Year list. I

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Speaker 3: like that a lot.

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Speaker 5: Paul Allen and Pete Bursus, here's what you need to

533
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Speaker 5: take you over the top, Taby. You need MJD to

534
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Speaker 5: start yelling out in the middle of the play. Oh

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Speaker 5: he's got it, you know, I can't believe that sort

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Speaker 5: of stuff. We need that you know, we need the

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Speaker 5: more homerism from MGD.

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Speaker 6: Poor MJD was so jet coming back from London on Sunday.

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Speaker 6: I think he was only half there. He brought it

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Speaker 6: with full force tonight and it was great. I love

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Speaker 6: Paul Allen. What's cool about that play is it was

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Speaker 6: coming right to us.

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Speaker 11: Right.

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Speaker 6: We're kind of situated back left pylon, North End Zona

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Speaker 6: Sofi Stadium, and I was chatting with Paul Prie game

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Speaker 6: and he was showing me the big binoculars that he

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Speaker 6: uses to call the game and howl the balls in

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Speaker 6: the air.

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Speaker 1: He'll kind of move the spot to find the target.

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Speaker 6: And I would love to know how that one looked

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Speaker 6: from his vantage point, because it was so close to

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Speaker 6: him that he probably didn't even need the binoculars. But man,

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Speaker 6: what a joy he is to listen to. And I

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Speaker 6: know he's just real with every moment he gets to have.

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Speaker 6: Justin Jefferson wearing purple.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's not thrilled tonight.

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Speaker 5: This Vikings team, some of their fans, I mean, they

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Speaker 5: were way more down on Darnold locally, like some of

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Speaker 5: the fans after the last couple of weeks than you

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Speaker 5: would have expected. Now, I did think he played pretty

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Speaker 5: poorly two straight weeks, including the Jets game in London.

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Speaker 5: But I thought he played well last night, I mean tonight,

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Speaker 5: and then I thought he played well last week. That

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Speaker 5: loss against the Lions was not on him. Although that

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Speaker 5: makes me think of what Colleen was saying on our

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Speaker 5: preview show on Tuesday talking about this game the Lion.

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Speaker 5: The post playing the Lions phenomenon is real. You play

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Speaker 5: the Lions, you lose the following week. Every single week,

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Speaker 5: and a lot of them are are games where the

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Speaker 5: team was favored. I maybe do think there is something

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Speaker 5: to that that it's such a physical team going up

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Speaker 5: against the Lions, and it's a mental challenge too, that

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Speaker 5: there maybe is a little bit of a physical and

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Speaker 5: mental letdown. Of course, in this case, they're also going

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Speaker 5: on the road on a Thursday night, which is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, on the road on a short week.

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Speaker 6: Maybe the Lions are like the Service Academy of the

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Speaker 6: National Football League. You know in college football, when you

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Speaker 6: have to play a triple option team and you pour

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Speaker 6: into that it's completely different than your normal game plan

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Speaker 6: and you can get over the hum great, but then

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Speaker 6: it's often the team you play next that beats you.

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Speaker 1: Because you're all banged up and exhausted.

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Speaker 5: So it's been the case with the forty nine Ers

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Speaker 5: in recent years, and I thought there is something to

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Speaker 5: that because they are the biggest, most physical team in

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Speaker 5: the league. And so yeah, the Vikings now at five

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Speaker 5: and two in the NFC North, which is the best

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Speaker 5: division in football. It's crazy, and they have the win

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Speaker 5: over the Packers, but the Packers will have the extra

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Speaker 5: game on them, and it's like, yeah, they could be

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Speaker 5: in fourth, third place by the end of the weekend,

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Speaker 5: TI tied for last place. Actually, if the Bears win

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Speaker 5: this game. It is something that division. It is such

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Speaker 5: a different scenario than the Rams, where like, if you're

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Speaker 5: the Vikings and all these teams, you're going to be

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Speaker 5: playing on the road in the playoffs unless you can

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Speaker 5: somehow go ahead and find a way to win. And

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Speaker 5: the Rams, you know, through nothing they've done at three

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Speaker 5: and four, are almost in just as good a spot

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Speaker 5: to try to win their division.

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Speaker 6: Obviously tough division, and they're just starting, just starting to

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Speaker 6: play each other. I mean, you probably remember when all

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Speaker 6: those you know, records were being said. You know, all

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Speaker 6: these teams with only one loss and the point differentials

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Speaker 6: like Okay, but they've only played headhead once and they

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Speaker 6: very well may be the best division in the football.

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Speaker 6: But now they're going to start to have to face

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Speaker 6: each other. But the sensitivity about the quarterback is real.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 6: It's a tough division to play and to compete in.

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Speaker 6: It's a tough division to be a quarterback game when

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Speaker 6: you're looking around at your peers and it's an ascending

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Speaker 6: Caleb the number one pick, Jared Goff playing at an

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Speaker 6: MVP level in Jordan Love, that's tough company.

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Speaker 5: Now, I'm not going to let Donald totally off the

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Speaker 5: hook here because, Okay, the sack, you know, probably should

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Speaker 5: have been a face master or should have been a

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Speaker 5: face mask. But he did hold the ball too long

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Speaker 5: on that play. That's it, a big spot. That wasn't

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Speaker 5: that quick of pressure. And then the sack that he

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Speaker 5: took that verse got the half sack. I forget who

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Speaker 5: got the other half there? Who finished off the play

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Speaker 5: where Sam Donald holds the ball a long time on

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Speaker 5: the play and then runs absolutely straight backwards. Again, if

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Speaker 5: you're watching on YouTube, you can see JB. Long holding

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Speaker 5: up his detailed notes what is it for this?

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Speaker 1: This is my call sheet?

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Speaker 6: And One of the notes that I had from next

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Speaker 6: Gen was that Donald has stayed in the pocket for

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Speaker 6: three point zero seven seconds on average this season, longer

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Speaker 6: than any other quarterback. Yeah, and also a handful of

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Speaker 6: fumbles where I think some opposing defenses, especially guard to

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Speaker 6: guard have been able to get pressure on him and

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Speaker 6: tee off on him. And those those turnovers I guess

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Speaker 6: are piling up now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's always taken too many sacks. And yeah,

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Speaker 5: that was Michael Hoyt who had the other half sack

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Speaker 5: on that plane. Those were two negative plays. There weren't

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Speaker 5: a ton. I do not think that that was his problem.

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Speaker 5: And actually Stafford and Darnold, because they're showing the next

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Speaker 5: Sten stats at the stadium, we're getting rid of the

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Speaker 5: ball quite quickly for most of the game.

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Speaker 3: It was. It was more towards the end that he

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Speaker 3: held on to it.

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Speaker 1: Can I before I lose the thread? Can I add

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Speaker 1: one more thing?

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Speaker 4: T J.

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Speaker 6: Hockinson being an active pregame was almost as good a

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Speaker 6: news as pookin Nakua being active for the Rams. Like

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Speaker 6: I think when Hawkinson gets back in there, that has

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Speaker 6: the potential to do for the Vikings offensively. What Cup

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Speaker 6: and Nakua did for the Rams offensively tonight, Like he's

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Speaker 6: just such a huge asset, and the Rams have had

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Speaker 6: difficult times with opposing tight ends, including rock Powers most recently.

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Speaker 6: I don't think you can overstate just how big of

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Speaker 6: a scratch that was for Hawkinson not quite ready to

658
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 6: rejoin the Vikings offense.

659
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good call.

660
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 5: And the expectation because they are going to have to

661
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 5: activate him by rule I believe on Friday, is that

662
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 5: he will play next week.

663
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 3: That he was close to playing this week.

664
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 5: And maybe they're wondering who Maybe we shouldn't have been safe,

665
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 5: but I give I give them a credit for you know,

666
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 5: it's a long season we've seen with the Rams, for instance,

667
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 5: like making sure that Pooka is all the way back

668
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 5: before getting him out there.

669
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: It was absolutely huge.

670
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 5: Speaking of Puka, let's as we listen to McVeigh talking

671
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 5: Puka after the game.

672
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 9: This guy's mindset, his mentality, he's a war daddy, he's

673
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 9: a stud I got you know. I love his play,

674
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 9: energy and what he brings. He was ready to go

675
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 9: tonight and he made a big impact on the game.

676
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: Ward daddy, what does that mean?

677
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 6: Warded on the hierarchy of Sean McVay compliments, that's either

678
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 6: one or one A right next to he's a G.

679
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 6: When Sean McVay says he's a G or he's a

680
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 6: ward dad, that is the utmost praise.

681
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: What about sixty percent G? Is that like? That's I

682
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 3: guess that's not all the way there.

683
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would love to hear him call you that.

684
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 6: I don't know that that's made his way into Sean's repertoire,

685
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 6: but that is a great little inside nod the two

686
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 6: of us.

687
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 5: No, I don't believe he's aware of me, although he did.

688
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 5: He always did the trick where he would remember Dan

689
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 5: Mark and I's name and Chris's name when we would

690
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 5: interview him a couple of times early on.

691
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: So so I still don't think he would be aware

692
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 3: of me.

693
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 5: All right, before, before we let you go, I'm going

694
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 5: to make you feel uncomfortable and make you listen to

695
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 5: one more of your calls at least, I really maybe

696
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 5: we'll bring in Eric here. We have the first Robinson touchdown,

697
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 5: which was I think the throw of the night in

698
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 5: the Play of the Night really important. I think DeMarcus

699
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 5: Robinson comes back for the long touchdown. We also have

700
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 5: the Cooper Cup touchdown where where Stafford ducks below the defender.

701
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 3: They're both good, but Eric.

702
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 6: Oh, I gotta tell you go for the cup one.

703
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 6: If for no other reason, then I know you're a

704
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,719
Speaker 6: tennis guy.

705
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: Okay.

706
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 6: And Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford both enjoyed tennis, actually

707
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 6: played tennis together in the offseason, and McVeigh told me

708
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 6: afterwards that that Stafford looked like a Carlos al Karatz,

709
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 6: you know, dodging the rush there.

710
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 5: Okay, Eric, I brought you in, but I guess JP

711
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 5: has made the choice for you.

712
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: I like.

713
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 5: I like the Dodgers jersey you have on here, of course,

714
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 5: representing the hometown team, you know, heading into the World Series.

715
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 5: I did think it was cool the final minute of

716
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 5: the game they just had on the huge you know,

717
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 5: JumboTron over everyone good luck in the World Series.

718
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 11: Al did butcher it a little bit, but we did

719
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 11: get the obligatory Clayton Kershaw and Matthew Stafford were nice

720
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 11: called him Curtis Clayshaw on the broadcast, so that did

721
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 11: get brought up on the game. But yeah, big sports

722
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 11: weekend LA.

723
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: So here close up all right here. Let's listen.

724
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: Stafford has a snap four man rush. Pressure in his face,

725
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: goes out the left side ducks the rush. Look to the.

726
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 10: Cut cut cooker cup from Matthew Stafford Prime Time edition

727
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 10: of nine and Time.

728
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 3: Ah, that's good stuff that.

729
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: Your audience has definitely quit on us, Greg, what.

730
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: Everyone's listening? You know?

731
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 5: Actually I heard I've had some of the you know,

732
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 5: I had the the Saints block party guys on.

733
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 3: I've heard from people it's like.

734
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 5: You should have more of just like the local people

735
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 5: on after these Thursday night games.

736
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 3: It's great.

737
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 5: You really get the inside, you get the emotion, you

738
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 5: get the feeling. And yeah, there were some emotions when

739
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 5: that when that touchdown happened, that was the kids started

740
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 5: going crazy. At that point. That was where I think

741
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 5: they started to believe Ellis is. Ellis always believes, she

742
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 5: is a true believer. She's thought they're good, she always

743
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 5: thinks they're gonna win the Super Bowl. But they are

744
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 5: sometimes critical of Stafford and they were like, oh, he

745
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 5: finally didn't just like fall over, you know, when he's

746
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 5: getting sacked. I'm like, look, he's he's thirty six years old.

747
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 5: They're thirty five years old. He's pretty athletic getting out

748
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 5: out of the way. You know, they think he should evade,

749
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 5: you know, more defenders. But that was they made Ellis

750
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 5: proud there.

751
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: He made it proud.

752
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 1: Well good.

753
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,959
Speaker 6: I'm glad they can rest easy tonight and the best

754
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 6: of Matthew Stafford is surely still to come.

755
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 3: Okay, I like that. Yeah.

756
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 5: I think I never bought the Stafford in season trade rumors,

757
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 5: which weren't even really rumors. They were just like random

758
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 5: people throwing stuff out there. There was no reporting behind that.

759
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 5: Never really bought that. I think the Cup situation was

760
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 5: different because, look, we've reported at NFL Network that they

761
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 5: were listening, that they were open to it, Jordan Rodrigue

762
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 5: at The Athletic, who obviously does a great job on

763
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 5: our show to report it as well, so it wasn't

764
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 5: just coming out of nowhere. I think a night like

765
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 5: tonight really confuses that. And not like he was out

766
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 5: there looking insanely athletic, but just that he has more

767
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 5: value ultimately to the Rams, I think, than he's going

768
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 5: to have to any other team. And if you're trying

769
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 5: to make the playoff and go making a run, you're

770
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 5: gonna want to do it. You're gonna do it. Want

771
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,479
Speaker 5: to do it with nine and ten? Like you're gonna

772
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 5: do it with both of them. It kind of be

773
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 5: crazy not to am I wrong.

774
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: It's an elite partnership.

775
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 6: And I'm not a big counting stats guy in this

776
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 6: era of quarterbacking, but the fact that he goes past

777
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 6: Marino for ninth on the all time list for completions

778
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 6: tonight is significant. That was called out by McVeigh, who

779
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 6: actually gave Matthew the game ball in the postgame locker room,

780
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 6: and Matthew turned around and gave it right back to

781
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 6: the all time winning its head coach of the Lost Angeles.

782
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 3: Oh good, good nugget love that before we go.

783
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 5: And by the way, it's it is kind of crazy

784
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 5: because Cup Cup has a hold on this audience. Todd

785
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 5: Gurley was there tonight. It kind of reminds me of

786
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 5: Todd Gurley. Todd Gurley was just such a fan favorite.

787
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 5: And you know when they had him on the jumbo tron,

788
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 5: they show all the number thirties for Todd Gurley all

789
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 5: around the stadium and there's a ton of ton of

790
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 5: them and you just see so many cups like you

791
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 5: see more cups than Staffords now in you he's been

792
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 5: here longer so and I get it, but it's just

793
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 5: he has that connection, so I think that that is

794
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 5: part of it too. I'm gonna make like the dumbest, smallest,

795
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 5: totally not relevant to what we've been talking about point

796
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 5: to end here just because it annoys me. And I

797
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 5: just am so sick of Sean McVay and Kevin O'Connell's

798
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 5: attitude towards the kickoff and the touchback rule is not working.

799
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 5: I get it, like with some coaches it's not working.

800
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 5: It's worth it with coaches that actually want to compete

801
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 5: and like want to try to improve their field position,

802
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 5: because when you do kick it off and it doesn't

803
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 5: go into the end zone, they're actually averaging like four

804
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 5: yards better field position. So basically these coaches are deciding, like,

805
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 5: we can't compete, we can't coach that up well enough,

806
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 5: so we're gonna give up those extra four yards. But

807
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 5: I'm especially annoyed about it having been at the stadium

808
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 5: because other stadiums do this too. But you know, the

809
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 5: Rams have their own version where it's it's the Rampede.

810
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 5: It's like, get everyone super juiced up before the the

811
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 5: you know, the game's arts, and there's you know, crazy

812
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 5: rams with like you know, glowing eyes, and then there's

813
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 5: you know, the lady on the guitar who's going crazy

814
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 5: rita whatever it is, like ripping her guitar, and the

815
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 5: whole stadium is screaming like crazy, and then there's like

816
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 5: a touchback.

817
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: And then we just like wait a minute, and it's

818
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: just like a.

819
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 5: Bad product, Like this is an entertainment product, and so

820
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 5: it's just stupid. The whole thing's stupid. We should do

821
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 5: it after the touchback. Actually we should do. Tell Kevin

822
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 5: Demoff or whoever is making these decisions, JB, if you

823
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 5: can talk to do Rampede after the touchback, because Sean

824
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 5: McVay has decided I'm giving up on that particular portion

825
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 5: of football, like I'm not going to compete at that.

826
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 6: That's by ramp You can step off the soapbox. That

827
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 6: was well done and listen for anyone who's still with us.

828
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 6: If you survived three of my in game calls tonight

829
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 6: and you were blessed to hear the brilliant future Hall

830
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 6: of Famer Paul Allen, and you made it all the

831
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 6: way to that pearl of wisdom from Ray Rosenthal.

832
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: Hit us up tomorrow morning. Let it snow. I'll retweet you.

833
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 5: I I think you're gonna You're gonna get a lot

834
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 5: of people, and I think people agree with me. It's stupid,

835
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 5: like this should be a great and there is something

836
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 5: I would love to ask, like a poorly worded question

837
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 5: to one of these coaches, like like that, because to me,

838
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 5: actually there is a level of what they talk about,

839
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 5: like competing and getting better and this and that, and

840
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 5: they're just like there is some something that strikes me.

841
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 5: It's like they've decided not to compete, because tonight these

842
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 5: are two coaches that just decided like we're not even

843
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 5: gonna mess with that. We were just gonna give up

844
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 5: the field position.

845
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: So okay, i'll stop.

846
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 6: Mcveigh's on the competition committee. Maybe you'll have a say

847
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 6: about it in the future, perhaps as soon as this offseason.

848
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: That's a good call.

849
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 5: I mean, they'll probably move it to the to the

850
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 5: thirty five coming out to just make the coaches do it.

851
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 3: JB.

852
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 5: Long, We've kept you long enough a long night at

853
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 5: Sofi Stadium, but the traffic is gone now you can

854
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 5: get out nice and smooth at this point.

855
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 6: I mean, the automated lights haven't even gone off for

856
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 6: the second time, so I feel like you were well

857
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 6: within your allotted time.

858
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: Greg.

859
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 5: It was It was an absolute pleasure. It was a

860
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 5: fun day at the stadium. It was a fun day.

861
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 5: I actually pre taped our pick show, so you will

862
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 5: hear that on Friday with Cynthia Friedelan. I'll give all

863
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 5: my Week eight picks. And there was some drama. Someone

864
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 5: from my family, maybe multiple members, were escorted out of

865
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 5: the building. You're gonna have to listen on Friday to

866
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 5: find out who, how and why. And Yeah, when the

867
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 5: Rosenthals are getting kicked out of NFL media, you know

868
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 5: football is back.