Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: spreading live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Nicky Spagnola, Brian Brunts, Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. Well that was ugly. We are here
Speaker 1: to beautify things. Got a beautiful Monday at the Star
Speaker 1: in Brisco. This is Talking Cowboys. And I would say
Speaker 1: Brian brought us, Mickey Spagnola and Rob Phillips are just
Speaker 1: the people to beautify things and put in perspective what
Speaker 1: happened on Sunday night at at and T Stadium. Would
Speaker 1: y'all agree? I don't think I can paint that well,
Speaker 1: one of the ugliest preseason games you might ever see. Well,
Speaker 1: mostly an address rehearsal air quotes. Well, let's put it
Speaker 1: in historical perspective. Off the top, the worst Cowboys preseason
Speaker 1: game ever. Do you know when that was? It was
Speaker 1: like thirty four those no, no, no, no no. Do
Speaker 1: you know when the worst Cowboys preseason game? I was
Speaker 1: a part of. Some of that was before you You
Speaker 1: might have been sitting before watching for your existence, But
Speaker 1: was it a salesmanship club game. One of those, uh,
Speaker 1: was a salesmanship club game. There we go. Give me
Speaker 1: the year sixties, nineteen seventy four. How long did the
Speaker 1: salesmanship club game last? I think it's it's gone all
Speaker 1: the way? Oh, I think it went well. But did
Speaker 1: it go all the way through? I think Andrew Shram
Speaker 1: and Brandt Era, yes, yes, yeah, I think, Oh, then
Speaker 1: that's given you a big time hit right there. Nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty eight, nineteen eighty eight. In fact, it was thirty
Speaker 1: years ago today. On August twenty seventh, nineteen eighty eight,
Speaker 1: the Houston Oilers beat the Cowboys fifty four to ten,
Speaker 1: Good Lord in the final preseason game that year. So
Speaker 1: it was the final preseason game of the Landry Shram Okay?
Speaker 1: Was that? Was it the fourth game or the sixth game?
Speaker 1: When did we start? It was? Yeah? When did we
Speaker 1: stop playing? Nineteen seventy seven or eight? Did they play
Speaker 1: entire sixteen game schedule? Yeah? When they went to sixteen,
Speaker 1: they went to four. Now Parcel's first preseason, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: were three Arizona. Yeah. Been the ugly as it was nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was actually the first preseason game that I called
Speaker 1: at Sun Devil Stadium, and that was bad for our
Speaker 1: deep blue. Bill told Ken and me that he told
Speaker 1: Jerry after that game that we couldn't we won't be
Speaker 1: able to beat a good junior high team this year.
Speaker 1: That bad and they turned out being Okay, this is
Speaker 1: up there though, right, this is this was pretty ugly
Speaker 1: last night it was, but today we move on. Right, Wow,
Speaker 1: it's a good thing. There wasn't any prime many prime
Speaker 1: time players participating. I thought you were gonna say a
Speaker 1: good thing. It wasn't on Prime time telling it was Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that to me. I think Mickey's right though.
Speaker 1: It's it's one of those things that you can go
Speaker 1: back and watch and not everybody played terribly, though there's
Speaker 1: some guys. That's why you're going to beautify, Yes, and
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sugarcoat things, but you know, I
Speaker 1: think like there needs to be some serious discussions now
Speaker 1: about what's going on wide receiver. And I'm not just
Speaker 1: saying because the guy's fumbling punts and beautifying things. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying is dig and find out what mattered from that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll say this. Going back and watching it again, I
Speaker 1: think and I was I wanted to see Kadeem Edwards
Speaker 1: play well. And I don't think kadem Edwards played badly
Speaker 1: at all for a guy having to make a start, Now,
Speaker 1: do you want him to go three, four or five
Speaker 1: games as a starter. I don't think necessarily that's the case.
Speaker 1: But I was looking for him to show some things
Speaker 1: more than what I had seen in training camp, you know.
Speaker 1: And but he was not terrible. You know, you look
Speaker 1: at what look at Jordan Lewis. We'd kind of been
Speaker 1: I've been very critical of Jordan Lewis and Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: and guys like that. You go back and look at
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis. The way he played, you know, that to
Speaker 1: me was something that, Okay, I can hang my hat
Speaker 1: on that. March Lillard hasn't played really all that well
Speaker 1: in all the preseason games he's been involved. Last night
Speaker 1: he played pretty well. So there's there's some guys that
Speaker 1: jobs were on the line. Maybe it might be too late,
Speaker 1: but there were some guys that actually stepped up and
Speaker 1: played well in that football game. Joe Looney's got a job.
Speaker 1: He's going to be your starting center week one. We
Speaker 1: all assume we'll see what happens with Travis and how
Speaker 1: soon he can get back. He continues to play well
Speaker 1: and so that's and he's getting reps next to Connor Williams.
Speaker 1: To me, that's good. They need time together. You you
Speaker 1: asked Jason Garrett about that, the fact that Travis and
Speaker 1: Connor didn't have a lot of time together. And now
Speaker 1: Travis is out, that's good, that's good, and it seems
Speaker 1: to be playing well. They missed some opportunities last night
Speaker 1: to make some plays, you know they did, they mean
Speaker 1: they you know, Cole Beasley, you couldn't he couldn't run
Speaker 1: a better stutter go than what he did. You gotta
Speaker 1: hit that pass. You know you got you got him beat.
Speaker 1: There's some there's some you know, you're you're throwing the
Speaker 1: ball late to Patrick Peterson's side. That's not good. You
Speaker 1: don't do that. But that's that's just you know, they
Speaker 1: had some opportunities, and you know, but it would it
Speaker 1: would have made a difference. I mean, they just made
Speaker 1: so many miscues with the fumbles and the punt returns
Speaker 1: and the things like that. You can't can't overcome. I've
Speaker 1: never seen a game where eight turnovers. I've never I've
Speaker 1: never I've never seen I've never seen a game with
Speaker 1: that many turnovers, I mean by one team. You didn't
Speaker 1: see the Oaklhoma Nebraska game in nineteen seventy eight, was
Speaker 1: it that eight turnovers? I think they I think they fumbled.
Speaker 1: I think, oh you fumbled seven or eight times, and
Speaker 1: David Overstreet didn't. Billie Simms fumbled on the three yard line.
Speaker 1: And the regular season game, yeah, where you came back
Speaker 1: in one of the orange bulleys seven. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: games where where the weather, you know, where the weather
Speaker 1: was a factor and stuff. I mean, this was I've
Speaker 1: never seen a game where this many, that many turnovers,
Speaker 1: but it's just you know, and a lot of it
Speaker 1: was something. You know, it's unfortunate what happened with the
Speaker 1: Byron Jones thing. And Byron Jones. If Byron one side
Speaker 1: of the field they're blocking, they're double team and the
Speaker 1: guy and the other side where Byron Jones is, they're
Speaker 1: single blocking with Byron Jones looping back. So if they're
Speaker 1: just double team in that side as well, Lancelora, he's thinking,
Speaker 1: I fair caught this ball. I've got to catch it
Speaker 1: on their side of the fifty. So he's hustling to
Speaker 1: try and do that. You know, when you get Byron
Speaker 1: Jones trying to position himself to make a block because
Speaker 1: he's coming around. That's kind of a self inflicted deal
Speaker 1: right there. Why one side you're double teaming, the other
Speaker 1: side you're looping guys around, and he probably didn't see
Speaker 1: the fact that they didn't see each other. He called
Speaker 1: a fair catch, you know, because it was and he
Speaker 1: made a good decision because he had to come way
Speaker 1: up to come way up to get it. Now he
Speaker 1: countered it with the next one that was a terrible
Speaker 1: should have never touched the ball, just let it go.
Speaker 1: It was over your head. The guy kicked the ball
Speaker 1: sixty yards boom that punt. That's pressure. That's pressure. That's
Speaker 1: pressure to try and make place right there. And he's
Speaker 1: had such a good camp as a receiver, and ultimately
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be his job if he makes
Speaker 1: the team. Can I ask you, guys, but this goes
Speaker 1: back to last year. He's had trouble fielding punts. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's something you want him to do if
Speaker 1: he's on this rock. That's the worst he's done. He
Speaker 1: muffed some last year and practicing yeah, I know, But
Speaker 1: this year he's been really good at it. That's that.
Speaker 1: That was the strange thing. Well, question on on a rule,
Speaker 1: so he nearly recovered it, it's a safety in the
Speaker 1: end zone. It's a spot. Yeah, they called it a
Speaker 1: muff on the score sheet. Yeah, that's a muff. So
Speaker 1: but have been a safety if he recovered in the
Speaker 1: end zone himself. I gotta look that up because they
Speaker 1: marked the ball where he where firstly touched it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: see that that would have been I'm glad I wouldn't
Speaker 1: broadcasting last night and they had a chance. I mean
Speaker 1: he had he had he had the ball and it
Speaker 1: squirted out. But Woosier had the ball right, if he
Speaker 1: recovered it would have been safety. Should probably know the rules,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I was just wondering when I when
Speaker 1: I saw it, ask you guys this, how do you rate?
Speaker 1: You know, Stephen Jones came in the radio's time about
Speaker 1: maybe keeping seven receivers. Maybe, how do you how do
Speaker 1: you rate this group so far what you've seen? Is
Speaker 1: there seven worthy receivers? That's a safety. Never I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: it's got to be. Let's move on. Yeah, what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. But it was just safety. But when he
Speaker 1: started talking about the muffed punt, right, you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: you don't know. But does this team have seven legitimate
Speaker 1: wide receivers? I mean does it? Or does it have
Speaker 1: five legitimate wide receiver? And when you look around the league,
Speaker 1: I bet you there are thirty one other teams in
Speaker 1: the league having the same debate about wide receivers. Because
Speaker 1: there are wide receivers who, like Lance Lenoire's had a
Speaker 1: great camp. Well, you can't expose him, right, waiver wire,
Speaker 1: they got an injured guy like a Noah Brown or
Speaker 1: Deontay Thompson, what are you gonna do with them? Right?
Speaker 1: You know? And what would this team better be better
Speaker 1: off just picking their best five receivers and saying, you
Speaker 1: know what, we use those other two positions to keep
Speaker 1: an extra tight in, to keep an extra defensive lineman,
Speaker 1: to keep an extra or your best five. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: who your best five is? Is it? Is it? They
Speaker 1: can't make a decision off seven. They're gonna they're gonna
Speaker 1: trade one of them. Well think the max is they
Speaker 1: would keep six, right, they're not gonna keep Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but but the way your team is, the way your
Speaker 1: team looks right now, do you cannot have seven wide receivers.
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones, I respect the heck out of you, I
Speaker 1: really do. But I don't know how you carry seven
Speaker 1: wide receivers. If that's what he's talking of. One of
Speaker 1: them is going to go on ir Noah Brown probably yeah,
Speaker 1: because they've protected him and having issue showsed him to anything.
Speaker 1: And here was a young guy coming into the league
Speaker 1: and so it's a red shirt year. All right, Mickey,
Speaker 1: you said the word trade, Which one you trade? I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna. I don't know. I'm not sure which one
Speaker 1: would have some value to get me an offensive and
Speaker 1: all you're looking for is a backup, yes, offensive lineman
Speaker 1: or safety. It's not like you're using it to trade
Speaker 1: for Earl Thomas sus. The most valuable trade piece you got,
Speaker 1: then a wide receiver, is it Williams Easley? Probably? Well
Speaker 1: Beasley would be, but you're not parting with the Unfortunately
Speaker 1: Beasley's Your best wide receiver might be Michael Gallup. But
Speaker 1: I'm not trading now. I'm saying what was the question
Speaker 1: most value? Yeah, I'm saying yeah, yeah, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: try and get I mean to me, this is where
Speaker 1: this is where Joe and Flower Mount gets a little
Speaker 1: confused Joe and Flower Mounts thinks you could trade Chaz
Speaker 1: Green for Earl Thomas. It doesn't work that way. They
Speaker 1: watch tape two in Buffalo and New at the Jets
Speaker 1: and Giants and Raiders. They watch film there, so you
Speaker 1: don't feel like that you could just say, Okay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get so if you legitimately want to go get
Speaker 1: a real player, you've got to figure out who you
Speaker 1: could part with. Who would Jacksonville one as wide receiver?
Speaker 1: They just lost Mark Easley. Think about how they play
Speaker 1: though with what they had. I don't know. Maybe does
Speaker 1: think Coughlin would one? Does? I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think. Well they had Alan had
Speaker 1: Alan Hurns. Yeah, I'm just throwing they probably wish they
Speaker 1: still did. What kind of guys Lee? You know? I
Speaker 1: mean a speedy, shifty, playing the slot kind of guy.
Speaker 1: But you know I'm interested because Mickey's telling me he okay,
Speaker 1: he's saying that he thinks they're gonna trade a guy. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm interested. I'm always interested. I'm not interested in keeping
Speaker 1: seven guys. I'm not interested in keeping six if they're
Speaker 1: all the same guy, I'm not interested in that. I
Speaker 1: got other problems on this football team. I got, I
Speaker 1: got safety problems, I got backup offensive lineman problem. You got.
Speaker 1: You got a center issue now even more than you did.
Speaker 1: Dustin Stanton leaves the game last night. What happened to
Speaker 1: his knee? Right? It didn't look good? Bad? And that's
Speaker 1: your backup to Joe Louis. Well, there's your there's your
Speaker 1: you know the safety you lost the other day in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: It's the same situation. I mean, you're you know you're
Speaker 1: losing guys that. Yeah, But I'm with you, Brian. I
Speaker 1: mean those are two Stephen Jones spoke to this on
Speaker 1: the fan today. Those two positions stick out like a
Speaker 1: sore thumb right now. In terms of depth. Deontay Thompson
Speaker 1: trade him. I think he's got value. I don't disagree
Speaker 1: with you, Mickey. They always talk though about how much
Speaker 1: the element of speed and Deontay Thompson and Tavon is
Speaker 1: going to change this offense. You have to give something
Speaker 1: up of value to get what I need. Yea, Uh,
Speaker 1: it's almost like that becomes a luxury right now. How
Speaker 1: do you know, though, I mean you can look into it, right,
Speaker 1: but we've talked about how important it is if you
Speaker 1: have quality offensive linemen, you keep them, right unless you're dying,
Speaker 1: Unless you're dying for a wide receiver, right, or you're
Speaker 1: dying for a lineback, you're dying for something. Maybe there's
Speaker 1: a team out there that needs a receiver badly, but
Speaker 1: you don't know that you can flip a receiver for
Speaker 1: a quality backup lineman. I mean, I don't know. Those
Speaker 1: are harder to find than maybe a backup isn't necessarily
Speaker 1: that when you've got the surplus of wide receivers in
Speaker 1: the league, and then it's like running backs, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and convince you guys offensive lineman. I
Speaker 1: don't care whether it's a tackle or an interior guy.
Speaker 1: They're hard. They're not letting those guys go because they're
Speaker 1: you don't have as many. Take pless a dime a dozen, deal, right,
Speaker 1: Take take this for what it's worth. I was talking
Speaker 1: with Gil Brandt about no one has any backup offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: He goes one team has some good depth, and he
Speaker 1: said Jacksonville. Yeah, oh, I was just looking up Jacksonville
Speaker 1: right now. That's about they have a need for a
Speaker 1: wide receiver. So you never know. How about that? See,
Speaker 1: how have you talked to Gil last night? Last night?
Speaker 1: Okay was at the game, so it was after the
Speaker 1: wide receiver had gone down for Jacksonville. So he's thinking
Speaker 1: he's along the same lines we are, you know. I'm no,
Speaker 1: he wasn't saying trade receiver. I was just saying, no
Speaker 1: one has any depth. Yeah, on the offensive line. If
Speaker 1: you watch the preseason games, it's ugly once you get
Speaker 1: past the starters. Well, see that's what I'm saying. Though,
Speaker 1: you've got to give something up, and you have to
Speaker 1: give up the horse trading. You go give up Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis you up Anthony Brown? You're gonna have to give
Speaker 1: up somebody to get somebody that can help you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm all for doing that. I'm all for giving up
Speaker 1: a guy if it means I could get somebody in return. Now,
Speaker 1: you better be able to identify the guy you want.
Speaker 1: So you're not confident that those guys that death can
Speaker 1: be found just off of cuts around the league. No, no, No,
Speaker 1: you'd have to trade to get a quality guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because there are you are. We are seeing guys this
Speaker 1: past week by team's cut. Loco was one. I mean
Speaker 1: guys that are veterans, that that's the best veteran that
Speaker 1: can go where he wants. I mean, you're gonna have to.
Speaker 1: You know where Mickey was talking about the other day.
Speaker 1: You know, he took a deal because he went to
Speaker 1: a place where he's familiar with the coach. There were
Speaker 1: only two places he was going to go, Minnesota and Oakland.
Speaker 1: Everybody else was out which right by the way, he
Speaker 1: traded Ryan Switzer today. Well, I was about to say that, Okay,
Speaker 1: with the new rules that are in place where there
Speaker 1: there's no cutdown until September first, Okay, do you expect
Speaker 1: this week there might be more trades than what we've seen.
Speaker 1: I would hope, so Yan, Yeah, just got traded. The
Speaker 1: fact that you can now trade compensatory picks. You don't
Speaker 1: know what they are, but you kind of have an
Speaker 1: idea in your mind, wait until number one. No, go
Speaker 1: get guys. You don't want to wait until September first, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're into game weight now. Yeah. And secondly, what's gonna
Speaker 1: be out there? I don't want to battle somebody else
Speaker 1: for an offensive lineman that I like, you're solving another
Speaker 1: team's roster bubble right at the same time, you're You're right,
Speaker 1: it's it's benefiting both teams in a trade. It is,
Speaker 1: And you know, to me, that's where I feel like
Speaker 1: though you help your team. You know, the second draft
Speaker 1: is really using the waivers, that's a second draft, but
Speaker 1: to get the players you really cover it. I don't
Speaker 1: want to fight where I finished last year. I'm in
Speaker 1: the middle of the pack as far as claiming rights go.
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in fighting bad football teams for players.
Speaker 1: You know that this. You know there's teams are gonna
Speaker 1: look at their roster and say, boy, we did a
Speaker 1: terrible job signing college free agents. Yeah. And there are
Speaker 1: bad football teams who with a record of zero and
Speaker 1: zero right now, who think that they are going to
Speaker 1: the playoffs this year and they're gonna they're gonna nab
Speaker 1: that backup center that you had your eye on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's that's because you could look at your own team,
Speaker 1: and Mickey just said it. You watch these preseason games.
Speaker 1: There are not a lot of offensive linemen backup offensive
Speaker 1: linemen out there. So if it means me having to
Speaker 1: go give up somebody, if I could go young player
Speaker 1: for young player, fine, If I have to give up
Speaker 1: a draft pick. I'm okay with that too. I don't
Speaker 1: have a problem with that. I'm trying to play for
Speaker 1: now is what I'm trying to do. I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about April of two thousand and nineteen in a draft,
Speaker 1: unless it's the fourth overall pick or something like. That's
Speaker 1: the safety things. Have you gone? John Geesick, that's good,
Speaker 1: that's a they traded for him, yeh yeah, but can
Speaker 1: you find somebody? Well, that's what I'm saying that that's
Speaker 1: where that's why they've been to all these you know,
Speaker 1: all these they've been watching the film, they've been to
Speaker 1: these games live. You know, guys are watching. They're saying, Hey,
Speaker 1: they're trying to stash this guy, or they're trying to
Speaker 1: do this, or hey, ask for this guy. You know.
Speaker 1: That's where that's where your pro department has to come in.
Speaker 1: That's where they have to save the day for you
Speaker 1: because they're saying, Okay, well what about this guy? Should
Speaker 1: we trade for this guy? Yes, trade for this guy.
Speaker 1: So behind the scenes this week, paint the scene for
Speaker 1: us and pull back to kurtin a little bit. What's
Speaker 1: going on as far as getting close to countdown date
Speaker 1: and the Pro Department and Stephen Jones and Jerry what
Speaker 1: it used to be have to do you used to
Speaker 1: have two cuts? Yeah today, so now now you've getten.
Speaker 1: Now you've got you know, you've seen three games on
Speaker 1: most of these guys one team Baltimore in Chicago you've
Speaker 1: seen four games on. But we're talking about players here
Speaker 1: who are going to make your fifty three man rosters,
Speaker 1: so players who wouldn't be playing on Thursday anyway. Significant
Speaker 1: discussions today has to be the scouts are the scouts
Speaker 1: are in today eating lunch. That tells me they're getting
Speaker 1: ready for a down. It's what they're telling because we'll happen.
Speaker 1: The waivers will roll in and they'll say, okay, what
Speaker 1: about this guy? Claim claim claim no, not this guy,
Speaker 1: don't do this guy? You know that's what that's the
Speaker 1: discussions you have. Did they put a board together? But
Speaker 1: do you take all the cut tags off the board
Speaker 1: and you put them in there by position? And then
Speaker 1: we used to just go through and say claim this
Speaker 1: guy practice squad this guy, you know that's how he
Speaker 1: used to do that. Did they already anticipate that and
Speaker 1: create a board and not yet, not yet? You will
Speaker 1: not mean, you have an idea how people are playing people,
Speaker 1: how they're using the guy, whether they're going to keep
Speaker 1: him around or not. So but you get one more
Speaker 1: shot at looking at a bunch of players and hopefully
Speaker 1: a guy that you kind of like doesn't get hurt
Speaker 1: in this last game if he's playing. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you look at the offensive lineman they have right now,
Speaker 1: they're and count Travis Frederick in the in the group. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I think we have to do this. Okay, So
Speaker 1: they got five solids, so I'm saying six six total,
Speaker 1: and then you got two open spots. Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: there's a I this is where. This is where if
Speaker 1: you said, okay, I'm not carrying seven wide receivers or
Speaker 1: even six wide receivers, I'm carrying extra offensive linemen because
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that's proven to be an area
Speaker 1: where I don't know how you guys feel great about
Speaker 1: Cam Fleming get up a sack in the second half
Speaker 1: to right now it's Cap Cappy and otherwise it was
Speaker 1: the open door policy for the Cowboys offensive lied last
Speaker 1: night as Dora had three sacks. Yeah you like that,
Speaker 1: Mickey opened door open. I didn't. I didn't I didn't
Speaker 1: feel like like you say, I mean to me, I
Speaker 1: look at Edwards. I don't. I'm starting not to have
Speaker 1: a problem with him. But I need other bodies, which
Speaker 1: I need others you can I mean, you're talking about
Speaker 1: going lighter at receiver, right, yeah, running back receiver. You
Speaker 1: have the option to once once cutdowns or may the
Speaker 1: first week at the season you put Frederick on a
Speaker 1: reserve list and sure and create an open spot there.
Speaker 1: Um can't do it right now, right, but yeah, cut
Speaker 1: down date you it's Cameron Fleming on your fifty three.
Speaker 1: I think he has to be. There's your seven right there.
Speaker 1: You find so on Saturday, you've got seven offensive linemen.
Speaker 1: See that's where I'm saying, I feel good about six.
Speaker 1: Start if I started better, I'm feeling better about seven.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I I I'm what I'm looking at
Speaker 1: right now. I'm trying to protect this offensive line. I've
Speaker 1: got a I've got a backup center. Do I have
Speaker 1: a backup center? To the backup center? Now you don't
Speaker 1: see that's I'm saying, No, So I better I can't
Speaker 1: if you tell me, oh, we've got to carry Lancelor.
Speaker 1: But by the way, you don't have a backup center. Okay,
Speaker 1: and along those same lines, do you have a backup guard? Well,
Speaker 1: Kadem Edwards right now, if you have a backup guard, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of where you like better. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: played better. See, that's that's the whole thing that we're
Speaker 1: dealing with right now. You don't feel good about your safeties.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say that's the other I mean,
Speaker 1: Cavon Frazier said last night, I'll be okay, Yeah, anytime, anytime?
Speaker 1: Can I just finish anything? Sorry, I'm sorry, pops out
Speaker 1: and you've got to get it popped back in and
Speaker 1: you got to get an MRI the next day. And
Speaker 1: he's telling me, you know, I'm probably have to put
Speaker 1: a harness on to play and all that. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's and you're gonna make it through six games? I mean,
Speaker 1: come on like that. That is precarious situation right now.
Speaker 1: Jeff Eath is your healthy safety. Well, now you got
Speaker 1: rookies behind them, and and Xavier Woods. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's gonna be ready for week one. Okay, so
Speaker 1: he's not ready for week one. You keep huff right,
Speaker 1: can you watch him miss how many times last night?
Speaker 1: And the fifty nine yard run was directly responsible for
Speaker 1: him not breaking down the right way. No, it was no,
Speaker 1: it was the new guy Johnson. No, that was twenty
Speaker 1: It was twenty not twenty nine. Right, that was Hoff,
Speaker 1: But there was one twenty nine missed at at on
Speaker 1: the edge. He came up to support trust me, Mike you,
Speaker 1: I was what we're going to do. We're going to
Speaker 1: go back and look at the coaches film and check
Speaker 1: that out. I went back. Cowboys will continue set play.
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Speaker 1: breaking news out of the Big Apple. Odell Beckham Junior
Speaker 1: has a new contract five years, ninety five million dollars
Speaker 1: sixty five million dollars guaranteed. That's the largest guarantee for
Speaker 1: a wide receiver in National Football League history. Man, really
Speaker 1: good player, he is. You're at the owners meetings in
Speaker 1: Florida in March and about trading to talk about trading him.
Speaker 1: Everything's on the table according to the Giants. So much
Speaker 1: for that, right, Yeah, didn't take Dave Gettleman long. They're
Speaker 1: gone out that he's pretty good and we need to
Speaker 1: keep him. Yeah. He kind of looked around, saw what
Speaker 1: was going on with his team. Sells a lot of jerseys. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I might need to make that one back. All right.
Speaker 1: Giants versus Cowboys at the skill position, how do you
Speaker 1: rate them? Giants got a better. They don't have a
Speaker 1: real tight end. They have they have a pass catching
Speaker 1: tight end their offensive line. Yeah, but he's not skill players.
Speaker 1: Skill players we you know, even though Barkley was the
Speaker 1: same I can pick in the draft we haven't seen
Speaker 1: him play in an NFL game yet, but I would
Speaker 1: take I would graded significantly there. I would take Elliot
Speaker 1: over him myself, not just two coming out of college.
Speaker 1: I would take even though I love Barkley, I would
Speaker 1: take Elliot. Okay, So, and you mentioned tight end at first, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we know what Cowboys have. Giants have Ingram who had
Speaker 1: sixty four catches last year. He's better than what you
Speaker 1: got right now. Red Ellison and Jerell Adams are the
Speaker 1: other tight ends on their roster. Okay. And at wide receiver,
Speaker 1: they've got Beckham, who, of course only I was in
Speaker 1: four games last year, injured, Sterling Shepherd, who had fifty
Speaker 1: nine catches last year's third year, former second round draft pick.
Speaker 1: They picked up Russell Shepherd from Carolina who had seventeen
Speaker 1: catches last year. Cody Latimer, who had been a bust
Speaker 1: in Denver. He signed there. Like two wide receivers right
Speaker 1: Roger Lewis is their otherwide receiver who had thirty six
Speaker 1: reception He played last year when they were when they
Speaker 1: were down Beckham, when they were down Beckham was Bryce Butler.
Speaker 1: I think that well. Clearly Beckham is the bell cow
Speaker 1: of the group right there. But everyone else though, I
Speaker 1: mean I think the okay, well, who who would you
Speaker 1: say Sterling Shepherd is? Who would you say that? Who
Speaker 1: would he? Who would who do you want to put
Speaker 1: up against Sterling Shepherd? Who's Dallas is number one receivers
Speaker 1: at Cole Beasley? Probably it is right now, Okay, Beckham's
Speaker 1: better than Cole Beasley. Shepherd's better than Alan Hearns right there,
Speaker 1: shout for Michael Gallop. Shepherd was a second round pick.
Speaker 1: Gallop was a third round pick. Does the Shepherd's get
Speaker 1: two years experience on him? Does it balance out at
Speaker 1: all that this offensive line, even without Frederick, is a
Speaker 1: better offensive line. Nate Solder at left tackle, Will her
Speaker 1: Nand is at left guard, Derek Flower's playing right tackle now,
Speaker 1: he's awful. Little Lapio John Jerry at right guard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Solder he's had his moments. He's had a good career,
Speaker 1: but not good enough for New England to keep him. No,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would not. I would put Dallas's line
Speaker 1: clearly over them, definitely. But I'm thinking about the wide
Speaker 1: receivers though. You know, if you said skill guys, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Giants have a guy that that's who you lean on.
Speaker 1: And you have a couple young other players, you Mats
Speaker 1: might have a difference maker running back. They might. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they might also have Jonathan Stewart and Wayne Gallman as Yeah,
Speaker 1: they signed Jonathan Stewart in the office. Would you take
Speaker 1: a quarterback Manning or Prescott man depends who's protected. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd still take Prescott. I mean, Eli without his protection,
Speaker 1: He's not been the same guy his career. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: still he turnovers. I guess our guy turns over the
Speaker 1: ball too, not as much red zone turnovers and stuff. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I just brought that up because of the Beckham contract.
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Speaker 1: Sixty two of the fans say, yeah, keep six plus
Speaker 1: wide receivers. They terrible idea fans. They love them some
Speaker 1: Lancelenor that's that's you know, that's that's just not building
Speaker 1: your football team the right way. Yeah. Yeah, you're you're
Speaker 1: not gonna play with six wide receivers. I don't think
Speaker 1: you are. Who's gonna be up you know? Yeah, who's
Speaker 1: on your forty six? Yeah, they tried to get Lance Lenore.
Speaker 1: He was playing as a return man, he was playing
Speaker 1: as a gunner. He was playing you know, he's playing
Speaker 1: all that stuff. They're trying trying to get him a spot,
Speaker 1: all right. I know he's played well. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: had some he's had some good moment. But I just
Speaker 1: feel like that is a pretty average group of wide
Speaker 1: receivers right now. I mean, and to keep seven average
Speaker 1: wide receivers, I don't think is the right thing. Just
Speaker 1: to bring everybody up to speed what you're looking at
Speaker 1: or Colby Easley, Alan Hearns, Terrence Williams, Michael Gallup, Deonte Thompson,
Speaker 1: and Tavon Austin are your six. Gallup has got the
Speaker 1: guy's got the chance to go. He's the guy that's
Speaker 1: got the chance to elevate. He's got a lot of
Speaker 1: arrow up arrow up right. So he's a rookie. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you saw last night what happened to him. He clearly
Speaker 1: beats Peterson on the route and he just he just
Speaker 1: mistracked even you know, mistracked the ball, if that's what
Speaker 1: you want to say. Didn't help that he got tackled
Speaker 1: in the air. He did get tackled in the air.
Speaker 1: That's a how do you not call that because it's
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson playing corner Mickey. That's exactly why when you
Speaker 1: get beat that bad, you shouldn't get in. If that's
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, that's called all day. Right. Yeah, I can't
Speaker 1: get the flag out of the pocket. And the worst
Speaker 1: part was listening to the game and then they showed
Speaker 1: the replay and it's like, oh, yeah, Patrick Peterson made
Speaker 1: a great play, and it was like he ta, he
Speaker 1: tackled him. He tackled the kid. Yeah, he tackled him
Speaker 1: in mid air. Yeah, And poor rookie doesn't get up
Speaker 1: and start doing this, he just kind of walks off,
Speaker 1: like because he's so surprised you did Patrick Peterson on
Speaker 1: the route burn he did. I like that about the rookie.
Speaker 1: What's that? Not doing that? Well, I wanted to do
Speaker 1: it before. I like the rookie that takes you ask
Speaker 1: you as another question, Yes, running back? I keep bringing
Speaker 1: that up. You don't want to keep four Scarborough and three? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Scarborough and Jackson do anything for you right now? Well,
Speaker 1: I've said it. How many carries are those guys gonna
Speaker 1: get behind? Rod Smith and Ezekiel Elliott? Well they may
Speaker 1: not be active, That's my point. But you gotta have
Speaker 1: on backup. I'm just saying, if you have to go
Speaker 1: light somewhere you can. You could do that. I get
Speaker 1: running back or tight end. Minute, you could go with
Speaker 1: three tight ends instead. Minute you do that, you get
Speaker 1: an injury, well then you go sign somebody. Practice squad guy.
Speaker 1: I got a practice squad guy. Orleans Dark was out there.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to accommodate Brian because he's right, they
Speaker 1: need to go heavier at a couple of spots where
Speaker 1: they're really hurting right now. Well, but Darren Jackson has
Speaker 1: played well, how you play well? How are you gonna
Speaker 1: go heavy if you don't have enough guys to play
Speaker 1: that position? You do have enough guys to play Zico oie,
Speaker 1: it's not coming off the f I mean where you
Speaker 1: said you gotta go heavy because you don't your injuries.
Speaker 1: You gotta protect yourself, right. Yeah, I'm starting to see
Speaker 1: things happen to my offensive line and my safeties. I'm
Speaker 1: a little nervous about those peaces. That's ben't worry well.
Speaker 1: How many how many okay, nine nine dbs No nine
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. I'm not keeping eight, I'm keeping an extra guy.
Speaker 1: Nine offensive Yes, I only got six, Well, but I
Speaker 1: need Okay, let's go find three. Until then, hook or crook, however,
Speaker 1: we have to do this. Let's figure this out. I
Speaker 1: can keep seven wide receivers, four running backs, three quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: eight offensive lineman, three tight ends. Is there a team
Speaker 1: that kept seven one? Have you looked it up? I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to bust on you, Mickey. Has anybody ever
Speaker 1: kept seven wide receivers? They're gonna trade one. Okay, you're
Speaker 1: being really confident right now? Keep six? How about just
Speaker 1: keep one? Quarter is extra? Honestly, which one of the
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks you like? Last night? I thought Mike White
Speaker 1: played his best game. Yeah, I tweeted that I want
Speaker 1: Mike White to start Thursday in Houston. He just might.
Speaker 1: Now he made two turnovers. Mike White better get a
Speaker 1: little bit better pocket awareness. Yeah, he's got a step up.
Speaker 1: And how about Mike White hold onto the ball when
Speaker 1: you get hit? He's dropping. He's dropping the ball quite
Speaker 1: a bit. I don't like. But that's why I want
Speaker 1: to see him at the beginning of the game. That's
Speaker 1: that's fair. But in terms of why the light it's
Speaker 1: gonna be better no offense, mister and missus White, if
Speaker 1: you're listening, but your son needs to hold on the
Speaker 1: ball better. Did you show better command? I thought he.
Speaker 1: I thought he's had really some good poise in this game.
Speaker 1: You know, he made some good throws. That one though,
Speaker 1: over he tried to fit the ball. It's third what
Speaker 1: was it twenty Some don't do that. Especially if you
Speaker 1: don't do that, don't talk about when he threw the interception.
Speaker 1: He threw the ball. I mean, Lenora's opened, but there's
Speaker 1: there's guys compressed in your face. Yeah, but but but
Speaker 1: he was open. He just missed him like badly, like
Speaker 1: he like he was like he was throwing hand garnades.
Speaker 1: It's over the top. I mean, what did you make
Speaker 1: on the past to Rico that hit him in the shoulder.
Speaker 1: He was a little behind him. It was on a
Speaker 1: steam route in the down near the red zone. If
Speaker 1: it wasn't in the red zone, yeah, yeah, he's got
Speaker 1: to catch it. Yeah. See, to me, I was happy
Speaker 1: that Mike White made some good throws. It's happy about that.
Speaker 1: I am worried about his pocket awareness though. Damn. He's
Speaker 1: a better player than that. Yeah, I know he gets nervous,
Speaker 1: he well, you know, and that's one of the things
Speaker 1: that that you don't know about these rookies and the
Speaker 1: Garret will tay and he's right about this. You know,
Speaker 1: if you throw Cooper Rush out there with the first
Speaker 1: offensive line, the first wide receivers in a legitimate running back,
Speaker 1: I think Cooper Rush is gonna look like a not
Speaker 1: look like a bag. And you know what, I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna look like a real NFL quarterback out there. Now,
Speaker 1: I just made a big mistake out to Peterson. Well,
Speaker 1: he threw that and the ball he tried to fit
Speaker 1: inside the gallop. Yeah, he just that was where he
Speaker 1: was going all the way. He had no other intentionally,
Speaker 1: he stared down Austin on the pick. Yeah, well, and
Speaker 1: he threw it late, and he was late, but you
Speaker 1: know what he saw, He saw Peterson playing off. They
Speaker 1: were in zone. Yeah, but as soon as Patrick stared
Speaker 1: over there, Peterson just drove. Peterson will tell you if
Speaker 1: he could face the ball, he could play past defense.
Speaker 1: And that's what and that's what he was. He was
Speaker 1: because he threw the ball before Tavon Austin even came
Speaker 1: out of his break. Yeah, And it's like and Peterson
Speaker 1: broke faster and It's not like that Peterson has never
Speaker 1: seen Tavon Austin before. Now, I gotta give the safety
Speaker 1: credit on the interception in the end zone because he
Speaker 1: was covering was a gallop, yes, and he was taking
Speaker 1: a man and then he pulled off the guy and
Speaker 1: stayed under draft playmakers in the second Yeah, he just
Speaker 1: he just let the guy go. I think he saw
Speaker 1: the ball going to be short though too well. And
Speaker 1: so how problematic is it that Cooper rusher, backup quarterback
Speaker 1: in a situation with forty one seconds left in the
Speaker 1: first half, down in the red zone is thrown intersection.
Speaker 1: It's problematic, Bill, It is very problematic. Yeah, if Brian
Speaker 1: makes a good point, if you got all your pieces
Speaker 1: around him, your hand, I actually agree on the hit
Speaker 1: with the head coach on that your hand in the
Speaker 1: ball to Zeke, Yeah, I agree with the head coach
Speaker 1: taking the pressure off of him. That that is a
Speaker 1: that is a let's run our offense. Let's you know,
Speaker 1: let's have our guys out there, let's protect our quarterback.
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's made some good thought. But ever
Speaker 1: since they've drafted Mike White, he's been a little bit
Speaker 1: of a an up and down guy on some of
Speaker 1: the stuff. I did think he was more decisive because
Speaker 1: we've talked about him. Practice this thing, Mike fload a process.
Speaker 1: I think you let it. He let it rip on
Speaker 1: third and twenty four and got picked off better field though, too.
Speaker 1: You can't make that mistake as it relates to this
Speaker 1: week in September one. Okay, cut down day, three o'clock
Speaker 1: on Saturday afternoon. They made the decision on draft day
Speaker 1: they're keeping three quarterbacks. I don't disagree. When they drafted
Speaker 1: him in the fifth round, they decided, okay, we're keeping
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks. They think about keeping seven wide receivers when
Speaker 1: they traded for Tavon Austin on draft day. Now, I
Speaker 1: just again, guys, I'm interested to see how they put
Speaker 1: this thing together if they do with seven wide receivers. Guy,
Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine doing it that way. I there's there's
Speaker 1: there's folks I like out there, and trust I said
Speaker 1: you in their right, you've got seven guys that are
Speaker 1: pretty much the same. Guy, find five of those guys
Speaker 1: and help your team in some other their spots. Well,
Speaker 1: they're gonna pare it down to four four wide receivers,
Speaker 1: not keep four guys that are you gonna be central? Okay?
Speaker 1: So that means I don't need seven? Right there you go.
Speaker 1: You just played right into are you are you absolutely
Speaker 1: convinced they're gonna do this? Or which four are gonna
Speaker 1: be the four? Cole Beasley, Beasley, Hensall Gallop and then
Speaker 1: Austin Yeah, Terrence Williams, Terrence Williams might trust five maybe
Speaker 1: n Williams, Mickey might you know he's you know what, No,
Speaker 1: he's not. I'm not putting words in his mouth, but
Speaker 1: he's not wrong. Micky's not wrong. And in trying to
Speaker 1: if you could get something for somebody, if you could,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm not talking about a bag of
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Speaker 1: and I'm hanging out at the lake drinking Dozekis you
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Speaker 1: with you know the when you're sitting there, you know
Speaker 1: right now, you know I'm trying to think, Okay, how
Speaker 1: can I help my team? Now? You know, if i'm
Speaker 1: the head coach, I'm not interested in next year. I'm
Speaker 1: interested in now, how can you help me? Now? I
Speaker 1: got a whole new coaching staff you know, I got
Speaker 1: a turnover in players. I got a quarterback that's in
Speaker 1: a situation where he's playing for a contract. Do I
Speaker 1: want to waste another year of an elite running back?
Speaker 1: You know? My offensive line is, you know, one of
Speaker 1: the best in the league. What am I doing? Maybe?
Speaker 1: So you're not keeping seven receivers, that's what you're telling
Speaker 1: The window is open now, right, wouldn't you think so?
Speaker 1: In the NFL the window is always open. It's probably
Speaker 1: why I'm doing radio with you guys, because I try
Speaker 1: and do something. You know, maybe I would be a
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Speaker 1: Good Cowboys actually out gained the Cardinals last night two
Speaker 1: hundred sixty nine yards to two hundred nine yards. Well,
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Speaker 1: for the Cardinals last night. For the Cardinals, you can't
Speaker 1: be too happy about the way that well, their quarterbacks
Speaker 1: didn't exactly lay well. No, that one guy rose and
Speaker 1: he was probably glad he didn't have to go into
Speaker 1: that right, especially with when Randy Gregory was in the game.
Speaker 1: How about that Randy Gregory? How about that first step.
Speaker 1: J Humphries hadn't seen it when he gave him that
Speaker 1: little spin move. He got all that weight on that
Speaker 1: outside foot, and once he got that weight transferred, he
Speaker 1: said goodbye, and the and the running back tried to
Speaker 1: chip him. Yeah, and he kind of avoided the guy.
Speaker 1: He's got It helps when you're two forty two now
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Speaker 1: go for it full time, Tyron Crawford three technique, Yes,
Speaker 1: or in a rotation with MALIEK. Collins. Maybe a mail
Speaker 1: bad question tomorrow, you think, so getting it ready for you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you think full time? Is? The is the
Speaker 1: weight loss is the weight loss? And right here we're
Speaker 1: watching it right now. Look at all that weight going
Speaker 1: that outside foot. Humphrey's got no shot when that weight
Speaker 1: gets all that left foot but if you're watching with us,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I was describing my listening. It will depend though,
Speaker 1: on I think how well Taco plays, because it could
Speaker 1: be like a shared position on the right side and
Speaker 1: somebody's got to play the run. And remember what happened
Speaker 1: last year Randy rand the ball down. Oh no, from
Speaker 1: the backside, setting the edge, and they asked him to
Speaker 1: do that. Would he get offord? No, I've taught Randy, well,
Speaker 1: he's better just his frame. He looks better equipped to
Speaker 1: do more than just rush. Now right, let me ask
Speaker 1: you this though. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, Rob, you were
Speaker 1: making a great play, but he played. He probably played
Speaker 1: Marinell told me before the game the goal was twenty snaps. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he did ten the first time. I wanted to get
Speaker 1: him twenty. I bet he got kind of close to it, right,
Speaker 1: mostly Nickel. They did play him a couple downs on
Speaker 1: bass bass. Yeah, Um, he's so quick. Yeah, but how
Speaker 1: about this. You got guys now, linebackers that can get
Speaker 1: to the ball. How about Joe Thomas. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna give it Tier right here.
Speaker 1: Lee Smith watched him play Jeff heath Down. You got
Speaker 1: three tacklers, you're really worried about the run. If you
Speaker 1: can play heath down, that's why you can get away
Speaker 1: with Crawford playing inside. I think you could get away
Speaker 1: with with with Randy Gregory playing an end and he
Speaker 1: got somebody that side. It's gonna make every single tackle.
Speaker 1: So I looked it up on Crawford, though he has
Speaker 1: point No, I hear, I hear what you're saying. I
Speaker 1: like the fact that Crawford is whatever you want me
Speaker 1: to do, it's gotta be ready for it. But Gregory, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Crawford real quick. The fact he's slimmed down kind
Speaker 1: of made his body look different. Might be a little
Speaker 1: quicker to play that undertackle that three get you know four,
Speaker 1: he's like a boxy, kind of stiff guys like he
Speaker 1: was wrestling in Yeah, now he's like now he's like,
Speaker 1: what hit the gap? Kind of a little bit a
Speaker 1: little you know, a little movement to him. Learned how
Speaker 1: to use that to his advantage. Instead of being the
Speaker 1: big square guy. He's got a guy that's got some
Speaker 1: understand what you are. And then the other thing I
Speaker 1: noticed a lot of times Woods was getting double teamed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were doubling him. That's good because that means fifty
Speaker 1: four is running into the ball, and they were running
Speaker 1: him to the ball. That means fifties running into the ball.
Speaker 1: That means thirty eighth running into the ball. Even fifty
Speaker 1: seven Crawford's only fifty seven didn't play bad either, by
Speaker 1: the way, Trolle's well, yes he's only listened Tyrone at
Speaker 1: five pounds lighter than last year. But that doesn't look
Speaker 1: right now. Who looks like he's lost? March March played
Speaker 1: well too. Yeah, the Lord March cut off the last
Speaker 1: part of his name. Why what's inside joke? He said
Speaker 1: he was gonna do that. We were on the radio.
Speaker 1: Someone asked me the question, does he just going by March?
Speaker 1: Well he did in Oh that's the inside joke. Okay,
Speaker 1: I got you guys still there? All right, let's go
Speaker 1: to night in Fresco. Nate, is he really? Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: thanks for taking the call of the Love the Dust
Speaker 1: section of the game last night. I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about that. First off, I mean, the
Speaker 1: first team defense was outstanding last night. It really keeps
Speaker 1: that hope going for this team. I think, um, but
Speaker 1: a few things. I mean like who you're gonna be,
Speaker 1: who you're gonna be your starting safeties at this point
Speaker 1: Keith and Robinson. I mean, like, I know that the
Speaker 1: ball was in Seattle's court, but I mean they got
Speaker 1: to figure out something. They got it. They're not a
Speaker 1: way to you. They're not I mean Seattle to Seattle.
Speaker 1: Don't have to trade him to you, Seattle part with
Speaker 1: your one, part with your one Nate, look at it
Speaker 1: this way, what if what has gone up? What if
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods was heard say game four and he was
Speaker 1: gonna miss Game five? Where you'd sit there and go, Okay,
Speaker 1: I got to make a trade because I need a safety. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just looks worse because it's the first game of
Speaker 1: the Sea picking and you've got You've got trouble at
Speaker 1: other positions that are more important, don't you think than
Speaker 1: free safety? Agree? And I think we need to address those.
Speaker 1: Mad a point Nickey about trading a receiver, completely agree.
Speaker 1: Seven receivers, no way, even six receivers, No way I
Speaker 1: would go with five. There you go. Keep Noah Brown
Speaker 1: on high art Sorry I jumped on earlier. Would be Hearns, Gallup, Beasley,
Speaker 1: Austin and Deancy Thompson I think Williams at this point,
Speaker 1: even though he didn't have a great year last year,
Speaker 1: he's a big target, which I think UM can give
Speaker 1: him some trade value based on those those six that
Speaker 1: we talked about contract Um and then with the running backs,
Speaker 1: like that's that's your strongest, you know weapon in my
Speaker 1: opinion for the Cowboys. So I think you have to
Speaker 1: go somewhat heavy. You do have to take Zeke, Rod
Speaker 1: and Bow and ask you a question, real quick, real quick.
Speaker 1: Go ahead. Why take Bow because they drafted him and
Speaker 1: I really give me, give me a reason. Jackson. This
Speaker 1: is my point, so higher than the higher than because
Speaker 1: Lenore is so shaky, like I didn't trust him last
Speaker 1: year and he's in the dam Wait wait wait, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: whoa whoa. You're busted on Lenore because he dropped two punts, right, yes,
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying like, don't keep on your practice squad,
Speaker 1: but why don't we try various Jackson as a punt
Speaker 1: returner and kickoff retuner. I mean he was kickoff returner,
Speaker 1: lad kickoff returner. He's not a punt returner. They're just
Speaker 1: trying to find another reason for to make it awesome
Speaker 1: and Beasley will return to your punt that's why. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fine as long as it doesn't take away from
Speaker 1: their you know, potential playing time one play. I just
Speaker 1: think I really like Jackson as well, um, and to
Speaker 1: use him as like an emergency running back. But if
Speaker 1: you could put him as if you're a special point
Speaker 1: of special teams guys, that'd be cool for them to
Speaker 1: keep them. Okay, okay, I'm not concerned with Lance Lenore
Speaker 1: dropping punts. I would be concerning if Tavon Austin starts
Speaker 1: up right there with you whole season. Yes, because he's
Speaker 1: your punt returner in my opinion. Yeah, okay, let me
Speaker 1: ask you this. If Lenore played himself off this team
Speaker 1: last night with punt returns, was that the question was
Speaker 1: that the question they were asking if he makes his team,
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to show us he could be the
Speaker 1: punt return I think they were just seeing what what
Speaker 1: he can do, and they saw him. Do you think
Speaker 1: they were happy about that? No, I mean they they
Speaker 1: weren't happy the answer. I'm sorry that was a that
Speaker 1: was a Perry Mason question. I mean he made the
Speaker 1: right decision on the first one called a fair catch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: came flying up trying to make a play. He did
Speaker 1: this last year. He muff punts last year. I don't
Speaker 1: think they look at him as though he's a potential
Speaker 1: punt return. I just don't believe it. I think they're
Speaker 1: trying to find ways maybe to keep him. But he's
Speaker 1: gonna make a team on the strength of his wide
Speaker 1: receiver player. Are you saying twenty five practices he didn't
Speaker 1: make this team? Right? Oh? He absolutely? Did you think
Speaker 1: he's on the team he said twenty five practice? No, no,
Speaker 1: twent I did say that. Do you think twenty five
Speaker 1: practices made he made the team? I don't know that
Speaker 1: he's made the team. Team Now we're up to seven
Speaker 1: wide receivers. No, exactly. Think about this. What wide receiver
Speaker 1: outplayed him in twenty five practices. I'm not going practice,
Speaker 1: just practice. See, that's why I'm having the same problem
Speaker 1: you are, Rob, because Beasley didn't play a lot, right,
Speaker 1: that's true. Gallup has Thompson didn't play. Gall Thompson straight
Speaker 1: up beat him, beat him out. If he got to play.
Speaker 1: Gallup has had highlight plays, but consistency wise, maybe it
Speaker 1: is Lenore. However, the wide receivers coach loves Deante Thompson.
Speaker 1: That's why I ask question. We're assuming that no he does,
Speaker 1: so that carries some weight, right, What if Garrett says, well, hey,
Speaker 1: by the way, son Jay, you didn't see Lance Lenora
Speaker 1: last year when we had him her that year head
Speaker 1: coach makes the final decision. But yeah, I mean that's
Speaker 1: that's a factor. But it goes back to what Bill
Speaker 1: said or what Mickey talked about it. Who's your top
Speaker 1: four or five? Does Lance Lanor still crack that? Because
Speaker 1: if he doesn't, like you said, you could maybe you
Speaker 1: do go light and he doesn't make the team. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's guaranteed a spot based off
Speaker 1: his camp so far, he's out a hell of a camp.
Speaker 1: He cracked, He cracked the in in in camp. So
Speaker 1: who would be your top four wide receivers? You know,
Speaker 1: you know what the name we keep throwing in there,
Speaker 1: that just kind of really doesn't make a whole hell
Speaker 1: of a lot of sense. It is Herns. We keep
Speaker 1: throwing his name in there's one of the four just
Speaker 1: because he made money. No offense make Yeah, I know
Speaker 1: you love the money factor. I had a thousand yards season,
Speaker 1: but is he played enough this summer to make you
Speaker 1: play the twenty five practice rule. Herns the top five
Speaker 1: player in the twenty five practice rule. I'd put Lance
Speaker 1: ahead of him based off of twenty five practices. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Bill,
Speaker 1: you stood there and watch ball. Um. Yeah, I liked
Speaker 1: Lance Lenoor what he did in practices. But I'm I'm
Speaker 1: with you, guys, by the way. I'm with you. I'm
Speaker 1: not against you, but I don't I would not we
Speaker 1: automatically throw Lenor in there every single time. And it's
Speaker 1: because he signed a contract Herns you mean, I mean Herns?
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Herns, my bad, thanks for creckt every time
Speaker 1: we throw him in there? Is he is? He? I mean?
Speaker 1: But it wasn't that great of a contract. See this
Speaker 1: was saying it's only what two years? Yes? Yeah, twelve
Speaker 1: million dollars right, six million a year? No, I think
Speaker 1: that's high, really, isn't it. I got it written down
Speaker 1: in here in the blue notebook we have. I got
Speaker 1: a blue notebook for this season, Alan a Hearns two years,
Speaker 1: eleven million dollars two point five guaranteed. So it's a
Speaker 1: one year deal. See this is where this is where
Speaker 1: I'm now having a problem among many problems that I have.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, keep going. Yeah, we keep automatically saying he's in,
Speaker 1: He's in, he's in. I would fight somebody right now, Okay,
Speaker 1: in that in that room. If you told me Alan
Speaker 1: Hearns is on this team, he's one of the five,
Speaker 1: I would fight you because I'm thinking because I would
Speaker 1: fight you if I if I love Lance Lenore, I
Speaker 1: would fight you if I was Thompson. Jay hasn't really
Speaker 1: practiced much practice. But you're but you're gonna put a guy. Yeah, yeah, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just bog down the show. But this is a
Speaker 1: great example of what goes on behind the scenes. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to we automatically say you, gentlemen, I asked,
Speaker 1: or Bill asked, give me your top four, and I
Speaker 1: knew every one of you was going to include Hearns. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but does Hearns deserve to be one of the four?
Speaker 1: See if we just go on hoop played, you go
Speaker 1: totally on what they saw in twenty five practices. I
Speaker 1: think you have to factor in the track record. Okay,
Speaker 1: and so and the and the reason that they signed him. Okay,
Speaker 1: and not only this too, because Williams another one. But
Speaker 1: this is gonna be why this is why you're keeping Lenore? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because that you don't have the track record on him.
Speaker 1: But you do have a track record on Hearns, Williams, Beasley,
Speaker 1: Thompson to a certain degree, and Justin Austin. So what's
Speaker 1: the track record of Austin? He's got more yards per
Speaker 1: carry than he does reception yards. Thank you Stephen Thomas
Speaker 1: for telling me that one day or so. My question
Speaker 1: still stands, who's your Who are your top top four five?
Speaker 1: Who are you your top four? I know, okay, you
Speaker 1: we're talking. We're cutting this down. We've got an opportunity
Speaker 1: right now to trade a wide receiver to another team
Speaker 1: to get a backup interior offensive lineman. Now which one
Speaker 1: are we trading? Which is what I want to know
Speaker 1: is who are your top four or five wide receiver?
Speaker 1: Let's do this is a unit so you know, will Up?
Speaker 1: We all agree, right, yes, Gallup, Gallup, Beasley? We all agree.
Speaker 1: The air locks. Okay, Now you're gonna get into situation
Speaker 1: where okay, who can I I'm okay parting with guys.
Speaker 1: Now I'm putting on Austin in there, Okay. Why because
Speaker 1: of the speed factor and the different things that they
Speaker 1: have planned for, keeping the in the keepers. Yes see now, Brian,
Speaker 1: And this goes back to what this is, Lenahan standing
Speaker 1: on the table. Is the debate, This is this is
Speaker 1: plans and expectations versus eye test, right right, You got
Speaker 1: to have a balance of the two right when you're
Speaker 1: cutting this thing down. You sure you can't go solely
Speaker 1: off history or vision. Yeah, and you can't go solely
Speaker 1: off eye test yet. But the offensive coordinator has a
Speaker 1: vision for this player right on this team. Why he's
Speaker 1: in there for this is the wide receiver conundrum because
Speaker 1: there's not a great separation between the top seven guys.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Mickey, thank you. You You can make an argument.
Speaker 1: Thank you. All these guys no one, no one has
Speaker 1: definitely separated them. Halleujah. So we've got the senator from
Speaker 1: Illinois saw the light. So how many of these receivers?
Speaker 1: How many of these receivers are now on the trade block?
Speaker 1: See what you're saying? If you okay, let's think about
Speaker 1: if if you have the ones you want to keep,
Speaker 1: if you want to keep Gallop, Beasley, Austin, everybody else's
Speaker 1: free game? Am I right about that? From what we saw? Right?
Speaker 1: And we're not going on history if when what we saw,
Speaker 1: so that means Hearns, Terrence Williams, Deonte Thompson are all
Speaker 1: on the bubble as far as trade, trade, trade possibilities. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds right, and that may and that may give
Speaker 1: you a spot if you trade a couple of them
Speaker 1: from Lancelin. All right, that was enjoyable. We're gonna Jarrow
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