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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: spreading live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Nicky Spagnola, Brian Brunts, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. Well that was ugly. We are here

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Speaker 1: to beautify things. Got a beautiful Monday at the Star

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Speaker 1: in Brisco. This is Talking Cowboys. And I would say

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us, Mickey Spagnola and Rob Phillips are just

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Speaker 1: the people to beautify things and put in perspective what

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Speaker 1: happened on Sunday night at at and T Stadium. Would

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Speaker 1: y'all agree? I don't think I can paint that well,

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Speaker 1: one of the ugliest preseason games you might ever see. Well,

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Speaker 1: mostly an address rehearsal air quotes. Well, let's put it

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Speaker 1: in historical perspective. Off the top, the worst Cowboys preseason

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Speaker 1: game ever. Do you know when that was? It was

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Speaker 1: like thirty four those no, no, no, no no. Do

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Speaker 1: you know when the worst Cowboys preseason game? I was

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Speaker 1: a part of. Some of that was before you You

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Speaker 1: might have been sitting before watching for your existence, But

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Speaker 1: was it a salesmanship club game. One of those, uh,

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Speaker 1: was a salesmanship club game. There we go. Give me

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Speaker 1: the year sixties, nineteen seventy four. How long did the

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Speaker 1: salesmanship club game last? I think it's it's gone all

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Speaker 1: the way? Oh, I think it went well. But did

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Speaker 1: it go all the way through? I think Andrew Shram

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Speaker 1: and Brandt Era, yes, yes, yeah, I think, Oh, then

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Speaker 1: that's given you a big time hit right there. Nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty eight, nineteen eighty eight. In fact, it was thirty

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Speaker 1: years ago today. On August twenty seventh, nineteen eighty eight,

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Speaker 1: the Houston Oilers beat the Cowboys fifty four to ten,

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Speaker 1: Good Lord in the final preseason game that year. So

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Speaker 1: it was the final preseason game of the Landry Shram Okay?

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Speaker 1: Was that? Was it the fourth game or the sixth game?

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Speaker 1: When did we start? It was? Yeah? When did we

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Speaker 1: stop playing? Nineteen seventy seven or eight? Did they play

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Speaker 1: entire sixteen game schedule? Yeah? When they went to sixteen,

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Speaker 1: they went to four. Now Parcel's first preseason, Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: were three Arizona. Yeah. Been the ugly as it was nothing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was actually the first preseason game that I called

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Speaker 1: at Sun Devil Stadium, and that was bad for our

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Speaker 1: deep blue. Bill told Ken and me that he told

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Speaker 1: Jerry after that game that we couldn't we won't be

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Speaker 1: able to beat a good junior high team this year.

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Speaker 1: That bad and they turned out being Okay, this is

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Speaker 1: up there though, right, this is this was pretty ugly

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Speaker 1: last night it was, but today we move on. Right, Wow,

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Speaker 1: it's a good thing. There wasn't any prime many prime

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Speaker 1: time players participating. I thought you were gonna say a

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Speaker 1: good thing. It wasn't on Prime time telling it was Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that to me. I think Mickey's right though.

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Speaker 1: It's it's one of those things that you can go

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Speaker 1: back and watch and not everybody played terribly, though there's

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Speaker 1: some guys. That's why you're going to beautify, Yes, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to sugarcoat things, but you know, I

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Speaker 1: think like there needs to be some serious discussions now

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Speaker 1: about what's going on wide receiver. And I'm not just

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Speaker 1: saying because the guy's fumbling punts and beautifying things. What

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Speaker 1: I'm saying is dig and find out what mattered from that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll say this. Going back and watching it again, I

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Speaker 1: think and I was I wanted to see Kadeem Edwards

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Speaker 1: play well. And I don't think kadem Edwards played badly

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Speaker 1: at all for a guy having to make a start, Now,

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Speaker 1: do you want him to go three, four or five

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Speaker 1: games as a starter. I don't think necessarily that's the case.

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Speaker 1: But I was looking for him to show some things

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Speaker 1: more than what I had seen in training camp, you know.

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Speaker 1: And but he was not terrible. You know, you look

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Speaker 1: at what look at Jordan Lewis. We'd kind of been

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Speaker 1: I've been very critical of Jordan Lewis and Anthony Brown

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Speaker 1: and guys like that. You go back and look at

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Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis. The way he played, you know, that to

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Speaker 1: me was something that, Okay, I can hang my hat

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Speaker 1: on that. March Lillard hasn't played really all that well

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Speaker 1: in all the preseason games he's been involved. Last night

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Speaker 1: he played pretty well. So there's there's some guys that

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Speaker 1: played well in that football game. Joe Looney's got a job.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be your starting center week one. We

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Speaker 1: all assume we'll see what happens with Travis and how

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Speaker 1: soon he can get back. He continues to play well

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Speaker 1: and so that's and he's getting reps next to Connor Williams.

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Speaker 1: To me, that's good. They need time together. You you

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Speaker 1: Travis is out, that's good, that's good, and it seems

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Speaker 1: they you know, Cole Beasley, you couldn't he couldn't run

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Speaker 1: hit that pass. You know you got you got him beat.

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Speaker 1: There's some there's some you know, you're you're throwing the

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Speaker 1: ball late to Patrick Peterson's side. That's not good. You

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Speaker 1: don't do that. But that's that's just you know, they

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Speaker 1: would have made a difference. I mean, they just made

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Speaker 1: so many miscues with the fumbles and the punt returns

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Speaker 1: never seen a game where eight turnovers. I've never I've

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Speaker 1: never I've never seen I've never seen a game with

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Speaker 1: that many turnovers, I mean by one team. You didn't

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Speaker 1: see the Oaklhoma Nebraska game in nineteen seventy eight, was

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Speaker 1: it that eight turnovers? I think they I think they fumbled.

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Speaker 1: David Overstreet didn't. Billie Simms fumbled on the three yard line.

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Speaker 1: And the regular season game, yeah, where you came back

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Speaker 1: never seen a game where this many, that many turnovers,

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Speaker 1: but it's just you know, and a lot of it

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Speaker 1: was something. You know, it's unfortunate what happened with the

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Speaker 1: Byron Jones thing. And Byron Jones. If Byron one side

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Speaker 1: single blocking with Byron Jones looping back. So if they're

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Speaker 1: just double team in that side as well, Lancelora, he's thinking,

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Speaker 1: I fair caught this ball. I've got to catch it

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Speaker 1: he's coming around. That's kind of a self inflicted deal

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Speaker 1: right there. Why one side you're double teaming, the other

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Speaker 1: the fact that they didn't see each other. He called

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Speaker 1: It was over your head. The guy kicked the ball

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Speaker 1: sixty yards boom that punt. That's pressure. That's pressure. That's

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Speaker 1: had such a good camp as a receiver, and ultimately

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Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be his job if he makes

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Speaker 1: the team. Can I ask you, guys, but this goes

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Speaker 1: back to last year. He's had trouble fielding punts. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's something you want him to do if

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Speaker 1: he's on this rock. That's the worst he's done. He

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Speaker 1: muffed some last year and practicing yeah, I know, But

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Speaker 1: this year he's been really good at it. That's that.

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Speaker 1: That was the strange thing. Well, question on on a rule,

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Speaker 1: so he nearly recovered it, it's a safety in the

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Speaker 1: end zone. It's a spot. Yeah, they called it a

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Speaker 1: muff on the score sheet. Yeah, that's a muff. So

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Speaker 1: but have been a safety if he recovered in the

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Speaker 1: marked the ball where he where firstly touched it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: see that that would have been I'm glad I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: broadcasting last night and they had a chance. I mean

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Speaker 1: he had he had he had the ball and it

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Speaker 1: squirted out. But Woosier had the ball right, if he

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Speaker 1: recovered it would have been safety. Should probably know the rules,

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Speaker 1: but I don't. I was just wondering when I when

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Speaker 1: I saw it, ask you guys this, how do you rate?

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Speaker 1: You know, Stephen Jones came in the radio's time about

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Speaker 1: maybe keeping seven receivers. Maybe, how do you how do

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Speaker 1: you rate this group so far what you've seen? Is

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Speaker 1: there seven worthy receivers? That's a safety. Never I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: it's got to be. Let's move on. Yeah, what you're

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Speaker 1: started talking about the muffed punt, right, you know, sometimes

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Speaker 1: you don't know. But does this team have seven legitimate

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Speaker 1: wide receivers? I mean does it? Or does it have

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Speaker 1: the league having the same debate about wide receivers. Because

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Speaker 1: there are wide receivers who, like Lance Lenoire's had a

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Speaker 1: great camp. Well, you can't expose him, right, waiver wire,

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Speaker 1: Deontay Thompson, what are you gonna do with them? Right?

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Speaker 1: You know? And what would this team better be better

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Speaker 1: off just picking their best five receivers and saying, you

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Speaker 1: know what, we use those other two positions to keep

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Speaker 1: an extra tight in, to keep an extra defensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: to keep an extra or your best five. Yeah, just

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Speaker 1: who your best five is? Is it? Is it? They

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Speaker 1: can't make a decision off seven. They're gonna they're gonna

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Speaker 1: trade one of them. Well think the max is they

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Speaker 1: would keep six, right, they're not gonna keep Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: but but the way your team is, the way your

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Speaker 1: team looks right now, do you cannot have seven wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: Stephen Jones, I respect the heck out of you, I

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Speaker 1: really do. But I don't know how you carry seven

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Speaker 1: them is going to go on ir Noah Brown probably yeah,

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Speaker 1: because they've protected him and having issue showsed him to anything.

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Speaker 1: And here was a young guy coming into the league

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Speaker 1: and so it's a red shirt year. All right, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: you said the word trade, Which one you trade? I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna. I don't know. I'm not sure which one

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Speaker 1: would have some value to get me an offensive and

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Speaker 1: all you're looking for is a backup, yes, offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: or safety. It's not like you're using it to trade

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Speaker 1: for Earl Thomas sus. The most valuable trade piece you got,

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Speaker 1: then a wide receiver, is it Williams Easley? Probably? Well

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Speaker 1: Beasley would be, but you're not parting with the Unfortunately

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Speaker 1: Beasley's Your best wide receiver might be Michael Gallup. But

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Speaker 1: I'm not trading now. I'm saying what was the question

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Speaker 1: most value? Yeah, I'm saying yeah, yeah, if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: try and get I mean to me, this is where

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Speaker 1: this is where Joe and Flower Mount gets a little

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Speaker 1: confused Joe and Flower Mounts thinks you could trade Chaz

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Speaker 1: Green for Earl Thomas. It doesn't work that way. They

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Speaker 1: watch tape two in Buffalo and New at the Jets

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Speaker 1: don't feel like that you could just say, Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get so if you legitimately want to go get

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Speaker 1: a real player, you've got to figure out who you

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Speaker 1: could part with. Who would Jacksonville one as wide receiver?

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Speaker 1: breaking news out of the Big Apple. Odell Beckham Junior

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Speaker 1: has a new contract five years, ninety five million dollars

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Speaker 1: sixty five million dollars guaranteed. That's the largest guarantee for

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver in National Football League history. Man, really

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Speaker 1: good player, he is. You're at the owners meetings in

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Speaker 1: Everything's on the table according to the Giants. So much

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Speaker 1: for that, right, Yeah, didn't take Dave Gettleman long. They're

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Speaker 1: gone out that he's pretty good and we need to

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Speaker 1: keep him. Yeah. He kind of looked around, saw what

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Speaker 1: was going on with his team. Sells a lot of jerseys. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I might need to make that one back. All right.

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Speaker 1: Giants versus Cowboys at the skill position, how do you

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Speaker 1: rate them? Giants got a better. They don't have a

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Speaker 1: real tight end. They have they have a pass catching

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Speaker 1: tight end their offensive line. Yeah, but he's not skill players.

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Speaker 1: Skill players we you know, even though Barkley was the

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Speaker 1: same I can pick in the draft we haven't seen

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Speaker 1: him play in an NFL game yet, but I would

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Speaker 1: take I would graded significantly there. I would take Elliot

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Speaker 1: over him myself, not just two coming out of college.

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Speaker 1: I would take even though I love Barkley, I would

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Speaker 1: take Elliot. Okay, So, and you mentioned tight end at first, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we know what Cowboys have. Giants have Ingram who had

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Speaker 1: sixty four catches last year. He's better than what you

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Speaker 1: got right now. Red Ellison and Jerell Adams are the

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Speaker 1: other tight ends on their roster. Okay. And at wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: they've got Beckham, who, of course only I was in

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Speaker 1: four games last year, injured, Sterling Shepherd, who had fifty

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Speaker 1: nine catches last year's third year, former second round draft pick.

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Speaker 1: They picked up Russell Shepherd from Carolina who had seventeen

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Speaker 1: catches last year. Cody Latimer, who had been a bust

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Speaker 1: in Denver. He signed there. Like two wide receivers right

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Speaker 1: Roger Lewis is their otherwide receiver who had thirty six

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Speaker 1: reception He played last year when they were when they

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Speaker 1: were down Beckham, when they were down Beckham was Bryce Butler.

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Speaker 1: I think that well. Clearly Beckham is the bell cow

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Speaker 1: of the group right there. But everyone else though, I

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Speaker 1: mean I think the okay, well, who who would you

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Speaker 1: say Sterling Shepherd is? Who would you say that? Who

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Speaker 1: would he? Who would who do you want to put

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Speaker 1: up against Sterling Shepherd? Who's Dallas is number one receivers

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Speaker 1: at Cole Beasley? Probably it is right now, Okay, Beckham's

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Speaker 1: better than Cole Beasley. Shepherd's better than Alan Hearns right there,

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Speaker 1: shout for Michael Gallop. Shepherd was a second round pick.

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Speaker 1: Gallop was a third round pick. Does the Shepherd's get

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Speaker 1: two years experience on him? Does it balance out at

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Speaker 1: all that this offensive line, even without Frederick, is a

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Speaker 1: better offensive line. Nate Solder at left tackle, Will her

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Speaker 1: Nand is at left guard, Derek Flower's playing right tackle now,

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Speaker 1: he's awful. Little Lapio John Jerry at right guard. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Solder he's had his moments. He's had a good career,

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Speaker 1: but not good enough for New England to keep him. No,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would not. I would put Dallas's line

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Speaker 1: clearly over them, definitely. But I'm thinking about the wide

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Speaker 1: receivers though. You know, if you said skill guys, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Giants have a guy that that's who you lean on.

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Speaker 1: And you have a couple young other players, you Mats

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Speaker 1: might have a difference maker running back. They might. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they might also have Jonathan Stewart and Wayne Gallman as Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they signed Jonathan Stewart in the office. Would you take

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Speaker 1: a quarterback Manning or Prescott man depends who's protected. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd still take Prescott. I mean, Eli without his protection,

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Speaker 1: He's not been the same guy his career. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: still he turnovers. I guess our guy turns over the

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Speaker 1: ball too, not as much red zone turnovers and stuff. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I just brought that up because of the Beckham contract.

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Speaker 1: Sixty two of the fans say, yeah, keep six plus

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Speaker 1: wide receivers. They terrible idea fans. They love them some

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Speaker 1: Lancelenor that's that's you know, that's that's just not building

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Speaker 1: your football team the right way. Yeah. Yeah, you're you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna play with six wide receivers. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you are. Who's gonna be up you know? Yeah, who's

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Speaker 1: on your forty six? Yeah, they tried to get Lance Lenore.

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Speaker 1: He was playing as a return man, he was playing

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Speaker 1: as a gunner. He was playing you know, he's playing

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. They're trying trying to get him a spot,

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Speaker 1: all right. I know he's played well. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: had some he's had some good moment. But I just

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Speaker 1: feel like that is a pretty average group of wide

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Speaker 1: receivers right now. I mean, and to keep seven average

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Speaker 1: wide receivers, I don't think is the right thing. Just

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Speaker 1: to bring everybody up to speed what you're looking at

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Speaker 1: or Colby Easley, Alan Hearns, Terrence Williams, Michael Gallup, Deonte Thompson,

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Speaker 1: and Tavon Austin are your six. Gallup has got the

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Speaker 1: guy's got the chance to go. He's the guy that's

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Speaker 1: got the chance to elevate. He's got a lot of

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Speaker 1: arrow up arrow up right. So he's a rookie. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you saw last night what happened to him. He clearly

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Speaker 1: beats Peterson on the route and he just he just

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Speaker 1: mistracked even you know, mistracked the ball, if that's what

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Speaker 1: you want to say. Didn't help that he got tackled

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Speaker 1: in the air. He did get tackled in the air.

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Speaker 1: That's a how do you not call that because it's

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Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson playing corner Mickey. That's exactly why when you

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Speaker 1: get beat that bad, you shouldn't get in. If that's

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Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, that's called all day. Right. Yeah, I can't

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Speaker 1: get the flag out of the pocket. And the worst

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Speaker 1: part was listening to the game and then they showed

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Speaker 1: the replay and it's like, oh, yeah, Patrick Peterson made

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Speaker 1: a great play, and it was like he ta, he

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Speaker 1: tackled him. He tackled the kid. Yeah, he tackled him

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Speaker 1: in mid air. Yeah, And poor rookie doesn't get up

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Speaker 1: and start doing this, he just kind of walks off,

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Speaker 1: like because he's so surprised you did Patrick Peterson on

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Speaker 1: the route burn he did. I like that about the rookie.

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Speaker 1: What's that? Not doing that? Well, I wanted to do

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Speaker 1: it before. I like the rookie that takes you ask

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Speaker 1: you as another question, Yes, running back? I keep bringing

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Speaker 1: that up. You don't want to keep four Scarborough and three? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Scarborough and Jackson do anything for you right now? Well,

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Speaker 1: I've said it. How many carries are those guys gonna

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Speaker 1: get behind? Rod Smith and Ezekiel Elliott? Well they may

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Speaker 1: not be active, That's my point. But you gotta have

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Speaker 1: on backup. I'm just saying, if you have to go

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Speaker 1: light somewhere you can. You could do that. I get

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Speaker 1: running back or tight end. Minute, you could go with

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Speaker 1: three tight ends instead. Minute you do that, you get

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Speaker 1: an injury, well then you go sign somebody. Practice squad guy.

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Speaker 1: I got a practice squad guy. Orleans Dark was out there.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to accommodate Brian because he's right, they

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Speaker 1: need to go heavier at a couple of spots where

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Speaker 1: they're really hurting right now. Well, but Darren Jackson has

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Speaker 1: played well, how you play well? How are you gonna

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Speaker 1: go heavy if you don't have enough guys to play

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Speaker 1: that position? You do have enough guys to play Zico oie,

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Speaker 1: it's not coming off the f I mean where you

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Speaker 1: said you gotta go heavy because you don't your injuries.

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Speaker 1: You gotta protect yourself, right. Yeah, I'm starting to see

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Speaker 1: things happen to my offensive line and my safeties. I'm

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Speaker 1: a little nervous about those peaces. That's ben't worry well.

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Speaker 1: How many how many okay, nine nine dbs No nine

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman. I'm not keeping eight, I'm keeping an extra guy.

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Speaker 1: Nine offensive Yes, I only got six, Well, but I

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Speaker 1: need Okay, let's go find three. Until then, hook or crook, however,

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Speaker 1: we have to do this. Let's figure this out. I

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Speaker 1: can keep seven wide receivers, four running backs, three quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: eight offensive lineman, three tight ends. Is there a team

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Speaker 1: that kept seven one? Have you looked it up? I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to bust on you, Mickey. Has anybody ever

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Speaker 1: kept seven wide receivers? They're gonna trade one. Okay, you're

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Speaker 1: being really confident right now? Keep six? How about just

631
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Speaker 1: keep one? Quarter is extra? Honestly, which one of the

632
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks you like? Last night? I thought Mike White

633
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: played his best game. Yeah, I tweeted that I want

634
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Speaker 1: Mike White to start Thursday in Houston. He just might.

635
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Speaker 1: Now he made two turnovers. Mike White better get a

636
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: little bit better pocket awareness. Yeah, he's got a step up.

637
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: And how about Mike White hold onto the ball when

638
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 1: you get hit? He's dropping. He's dropping the ball quite

639
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: a bit. I don't like. But that's why I want

640
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: to see him at the beginning of the game. That's

641
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: that's fair. But in terms of why the light it's

642
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: gonna be better no offense, mister and missus White, if

643
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: you're listening, but your son needs to hold on the

644
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: ball better. Did you show better command? I thought he.

645
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: I thought he's had really some good poise in this game.

646
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: You know, he made some good throws. That one though,

647
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: over he tried to fit the ball. It's third what

648
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: was it twenty Some don't do that. Especially if you

649
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: don't do that, don't talk about when he threw the interception.

650
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: He threw the ball. I mean, Lenora's opened, but there's

651
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: there's guys compressed in your face. Yeah, but but but

652
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: he was open. He just missed him like badly, like

653
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: he like he was like he was throwing hand garnades.

654
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: It's over the top. I mean, what did you make

655
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: on the past to Rico that hit him in the shoulder.

656
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: He was a little behind him. It was on a

657
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: steam route in the down near the red zone. If

658
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't in the red zone, yeah, yeah, he's got

659
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: to catch it. Yeah. See, to me, I was happy

660
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: that Mike White made some good throws. It's happy about that.

661
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: I am worried about his pocket awareness though. Damn. He's

662
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: a better player than that. Yeah, I know he gets nervous,

663
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: he well, you know, and that's one of the things

664
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Speaker 1: that that you don't know about these rookies and the

665
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: Garret will tay and he's right about this. You know,

666
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: if you throw Cooper Rush out there with the first

667
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: offensive line, the first wide receivers in a legitimate running back,

668
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: I think Cooper Rush is gonna look like a not

669
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Speaker 1: look like a bag. And you know what, I think

670
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna look like a real NFL quarterback out there. Now,

671
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: I just made a big mistake out to Peterson. Well,

672
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: he threw that and the ball he tried to fit

673
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: inside the gallop. Yeah, he just that was where he

674
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: was going all the way. He had no other intentionally,

675
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: he stared down Austin on the pick. Yeah, well, and

676
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: he threw it late, and he was late, but you

677
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: know what he saw, He saw Peterson playing off. They

678
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 1: were in zone. Yeah, but as soon as Patrick stared

679
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: over there, Peterson just drove. Peterson will tell you if

680
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: he could face the ball, he could play past defense.

681
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: And that's what and that's what he was. He was

682
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: because he threw the ball before Tavon Austin even came

683
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: out of his break. Yeah, And it's like and Peterson

684
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: broke faster and It's not like that Peterson has never

685
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: seen Tavon Austin before. Now, I gotta give the safety

686
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: credit on the interception in the end zone because he

687
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: was covering was a gallop, yes, and he was taking

688
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: a man and then he pulled off the guy and

689
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: stayed under draft playmakers in the second Yeah, he just

690
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: he just let the guy go. I think he saw

691
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: the ball going to be short though too well. And

692
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: so how problematic is it that Cooper rusher, backup quarterback

693
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: in a situation with forty one seconds left in the

694
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: first half, down in the red zone is thrown intersection.

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00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: It's problematic, Bill, It is very problematic. Yeah, if Brian

696
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: makes a good point, if you got all your pieces

697
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: around him, your hand, I actually agree on the hit

698
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: with the head coach on that your hand in the

699
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: ball to Zeke, Yeah, I agree with the head coach

700
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: taking the pressure off of him. That that is a

701
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: that is a let's run our offense. Let's you know,

702
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: let's have our guys out there, let's protect our quarterback.

703
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's made some good thought. But ever

704
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: since they've drafted Mike White, he's been a little bit

705
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: of a an up and down guy on some of

706
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: the stuff. I did think he was more decisive because

707
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 1: we've talked about him. Practice this thing, Mike fload a process.

708
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: I think you let it. He let it rip on

709
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Speaker 1: third and twenty four and got picked off better field though, too.

710
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: You can't make that mistake as it relates to this

711
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: week in September one. Okay, cut down day, three o'clock

712
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: on Saturday afternoon. They made the decision on draft day

713
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: they're keeping three quarterbacks. I don't disagree. When they drafted

714
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: him in the fifth round, they decided, okay, we're keeping

715
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks. They think about keeping seven wide receivers when

716
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: they traded for Tavon Austin on draft day. Now, I

717
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: just again, guys, I'm interested to see how they put

718
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: this thing together if they do with seven wide receivers. Guy,

719
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine doing it that way. I there's there's

720
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: there's folks I like out there, and trust I said

721
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Speaker 1: you in their right, you've got seven guys that are

722
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: pretty much the same. Guy, find five of those guys

723
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Speaker 1: and help your team in some other their spots. Well,

724
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna pare it down to four four wide receivers,

725
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: not keep four guys that are you gonna be central? Okay?

726
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: So that means I don't need seven? Right there you go.

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00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 1: You just played right into are you are you absolutely

728
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 1: convinced they're gonna do this? Or which four are gonna

729
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: be the four? Cole Beasley, Beasley, Hensall Gallop and then

730
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: Austin Yeah, Terrence Williams, Terrence Williams might trust five maybe

731
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Speaker 1: n Williams, Mickey might you know he's you know what, No,

732
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Speaker 1: he's not. I'm not putting words in his mouth, but

733
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Speaker 1: he's not wrong. Micky's not wrong. And in trying to

734
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Speaker 1: if you could get something for somebody, if you could,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I'm not talking about a bag of

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Speaker 1: and I'm hanging out at the lake drinking Dozekis you

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Speaker 1: know I'm talking about get something like mid dosekis whatever

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Speaker 1: with you know the when you're sitting there, you know

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Speaker 1: right now, you know I'm trying to think, Okay, how

741
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: can I help my team? Now? You know, if i'm

742
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: the head coach, I'm not interested in next year. I'm

743
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: interested in now, how can you help me? Now? I

744
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: got a whole new coaching staff you know, I got

745
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: a turnover in players. I got a quarterback that's in

746
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: a situation where he's playing for a contract. Do I

747
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: want to waste another year of an elite running back?

748
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: You know? My offensive line is, you know, one of

749
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: the best in the league. What am I doing? Maybe?

750
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: So you're not keeping seven receivers, that's what you're telling

751
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: The window is open now, right, wouldn't you think so?

752
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: In the NFL the window is always open. It's probably

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Speaker 1: why I'm doing radio with you guys, because I try

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Speaker 1: and do something. You know, maybe I would be a

755
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Speaker 1: little overly aggressive about it. All right, We're gonna find

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Speaker 1: to talking Cowboys. We're trading all the Cowboys players away

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Speaker 1: hundred sixty nine yards to two hundred nine yards. Well,

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Speaker 1: it helps when your your defense in the first quarter

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Speaker 1: for the Cardinals last night. For the Cardinals, you can't

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Speaker 1: didn't exactly lay well. No, that one guy rose and

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Speaker 1: he was probably glad he didn't have to go into

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Speaker 1: that right, especially with when Randy Gregory was in the game.

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Speaker 1: How about that Randy Gregory? How about that first step.

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Speaker 1: J Humphries hadn't seen it when he gave him that

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Speaker 1: little spin move. He got all that weight on that

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Speaker 1: outside foot, and once he got that weight transferred, he

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Speaker 1: said goodbye, and the and the running back tried to

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Speaker 1: chip him. Yeah, and he kind of avoided the guy.

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Speaker 1: He's got It helps when you're two forty two now

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Speaker 1: and stock stocky, he's like elastic man. Ask another question, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go for it full time, Tyron Crawford three technique, Yes,

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Speaker 1: or in a rotation with MALIEK. Collins. Maybe a mail

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Speaker 1: bad question tomorrow, you think, so getting it ready for you? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what do you think full time? Is? The is the

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00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: weight loss is the weight loss? And right here we're

823
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: watching it right now. Look at all that weight going

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00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: that outside foot. Humphrey's got no shot when that weight

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Speaker 1: gets all that left foot but if you're watching with us,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I was describing my listening. It will depend though,

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Speaker 1: on I think how well Taco plays, because it could

828
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 1: be like a shared position on the right side and

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00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: somebody's got to play the run. And remember what happened

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Speaker 1: last year Randy rand the ball down. Oh no, from

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Speaker 1: the backside, setting the edge, and they asked him to

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Speaker 1: do that. Would he get offord? No, I've taught Randy, well,

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Speaker 1: he's better just his frame. He looks better equipped to

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Speaker 1: do more than just rush. Now right, let me ask

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Speaker 1: you this though. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, Rob, you were

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Speaker 1: making a great play, but he played. He probably played

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Speaker 1: Marinell told me before the game the goal was twenty snaps. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he did ten the first time. I wanted to get

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Speaker 1: him twenty. I bet he got kind of close to it, right,

840
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: mostly Nickel. They did play him a couple downs on

841
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: bass bass. Yeah, Um, he's so quick. Yeah, but how

842
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: about this. You got guys now, linebackers that can get

843
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: to the ball. How about Joe Thomas. That's what I'm saying.

844
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna give it Tier right here.

845
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: Lee Smith watched him play Jeff heath Down. You got

846
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: three tacklers, you're really worried about the run. If you

847
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 1: can play heath down, that's why you can get away

848
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: with Crawford playing inside. I think you could get away

849
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: with with with Randy Gregory playing an end and he

850
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 1: got somebody that side. It's gonna make every single tackle.

851
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: So I looked it up on Crawford, though he has

852
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: point No, I hear, I hear what you're saying. I

853
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: like the fact that Crawford is whatever you want me

854
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: to do, it's gotta be ready for it. But Gregory, Yeah,

855
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: but Crawford real quick. The fact he's slimmed down kind

856
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,959
Speaker 1: of made his body look different. Might be a little

857
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: quicker to play that undertackle that three get you know four,

858
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: he's like a boxy, kind of stiff guys like he

859
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: was wrestling in Yeah, now he's like now he's like,

860
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: what hit the gap? Kind of a little bit a

861
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: little you know, a little movement to him. Learned how

862
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: to use that to his advantage. Instead of being the

863
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: big square guy. He's got a guy that's got some

864
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: understand what you are. And then the other thing I

865
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: noticed a lot of times Woods was getting double teamed. Yeah,

866
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: they were doubling him. That's good because that means fifty

867
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: four is running into the ball, and they were running

868
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: him to the ball. That means fifties running into the ball.

869
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: That means thirty eighth running into the ball. Even fifty

870
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: seven Crawford's only fifty seven didn't play bad either, by

871
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: the way, Trolle's well, yes he's only listened Tyrone at

872
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: five pounds lighter than last year. But that doesn't look

873
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: right now. Who looks like he's lost? March March played

874
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,959
Speaker 1: well too. Yeah, the Lord March cut off the last

875
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: part of his name. Why what's inside joke? He said

876
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: he was gonna do that. We were on the radio.

877
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: Someone asked me the question, does he just going by March?

878
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: Well he did in Oh that's the inside joke. Okay,

879
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: I got you guys still there? All right, let's go

880
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: to night in Fresco. Nate, is he really? Hey, guys,

881
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: thanks for taking the call of the Love the Dust

882
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: section of the game last night. I wanted to talk

883
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: a little bit about that. First off, I mean, the

884
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: first team defense was outstanding last night. It really keeps

885
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: that hope going for this team. I think, um, but

886
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: a few things. I mean like who you're gonna be,

887
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: who you're gonna be your starting safeties at this point

888
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: Keith and Robinson. I mean, like, I know that the

889
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: ball was in Seattle's court, but I mean they got

890
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: to figure out something. They got it. They're not a

891
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: way to you. They're not I mean Seattle to Seattle.

892
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: Don't have to trade him to you, Seattle part with

893
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: your one, part with your one Nate, look at it

894
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: this way, what if what has gone up? What if

895
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods was heard say game four and he was

896
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: gonna miss Game five? Where you'd sit there and go, Okay,

897
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: I got to make a trade because I need a safety. Yeah,

898
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: it just looks worse because it's the first game of

899
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: the Sea picking and you've got You've got trouble at

900
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: other positions that are more important, don't you think than

901
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: free safety? Agree? And I think we need to address those.

902
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: Mad a point Nickey about trading a receiver, completely agree.

903
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: Seven receivers, no way, even six receivers, No way I

904
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: would go with five. There you go. Keep Noah Brown

905
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: on high art Sorry I jumped on earlier. Would be Hearns, Gallup, Beasley,

906
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: Austin and Deancy Thompson I think Williams at this point,

907
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: even though he didn't have a great year last year,

908
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 1: he's a big target, which I think UM can give

909
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: him some trade value based on those those six that

910
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 1: we talked about contract Um and then with the running backs,

911
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: like that's that's your strongest, you know weapon in my

912
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: opinion for the Cowboys. So I think you have to

913
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: go somewhat heavy. You do have to take Zeke, Rod

914
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: and Bow and ask you a question, real quick, real quick.

915
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: Go ahead. Why take Bow because they drafted him and

916
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: I really give me, give me a reason. Jackson. This

917
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: is my point, so higher than the higher than because

918
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: Lenore is so shaky, like I didn't trust him last

919
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: year and he's in the dam Wait wait wait, whoa, whoa,

920
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: whoa whoa. You're busted on Lenore because he dropped two punts, right, yes,

921
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying like, don't keep on your practice squad,

922
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: but why don't we try various Jackson as a punt

923
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: returner and kickoff retuner. I mean he was kickoff returner,

924
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: lad kickoff returner. He's not a punt returner. They're just

925
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: trying to find another reason for to make it awesome

926
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: and Beasley will return to your punt that's why. Yeah,

927
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: that's fine as long as it doesn't take away from

928
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: their you know, potential playing time one play. I just

929
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: think I really like Jackson as well, um, and to

930
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: use him as like an emergency running back. But if

931
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: you could put him as if you're a special point

932
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: of special teams guys, that'd be cool for them to

933
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: keep them. Okay, okay, I'm not concerned with Lance Lenore

934
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: dropping punts. I would be concerning if Tavon Austin starts

935
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: up right there with you whole season. Yes, because he's

936
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: your punt returner in my opinion. Yeah, okay, let me

937
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: ask you this. If Lenore played himself off this team

938
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: last night with punt returns, was that the question was

939
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: that the question they were asking if he makes his team,

940
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to show us he could be the

941
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: punt return I think they were just seeing what what

942
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: he can do, and they saw him. Do you think

943
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: they were happy about that? No, I mean they they

944
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: weren't happy the answer. I'm sorry that was a that

945
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: was a Perry Mason question. I mean he made the

946
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: right decision on the first one called a fair catch. Yeah,

947
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: came flying up trying to make a play. He did

948
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: this last year. He muff punts last year. I don't

949
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: think they look at him as though he's a potential

950
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: punt return. I just don't believe it. I think they're

951
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: trying to find ways maybe to keep him. But he's

952
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: gonna make a team on the strength of his wide

953
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: receiver player. Are you saying twenty five practices he didn't

954
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: make this team? Right? Oh? He absolutely? Did you think

955
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: he's on the team he said twenty five practice? No, no,

956
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: twent I did say that. Do you think twenty five

957
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 1: practices made he made the team? I don't know that

958
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: he's made the team. Team Now we're up to seven

959
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: wide receivers. No, exactly. Think about this. What wide receiver

960
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: outplayed him in twenty five practices. I'm not going practice,

961
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: just practice. See, that's why I'm having the same problem

962
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: you are, Rob, because Beasley didn't play a lot, right,

963
00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: that's true. Gallup has Thompson didn't play. Gall Thompson straight

964
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: up beat him, beat him out. If he got to play.

965
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: Gallup has had highlight plays, but consistency wise, maybe it

966
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: is Lenore. However, the wide receivers coach loves Deante Thompson.

967
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: That's why I ask question. We're assuming that no he does,

968
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: so that carries some weight, right, What if Garrett says, well, hey,

969
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: by the way, son Jay, you didn't see Lance Lenora

970
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: last year when we had him her that year head

971
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 1: coach makes the final decision. But yeah, I mean that's

972
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 1: that's a factor. But it goes back to what Bill

973
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: said or what Mickey talked about it. Who's your top

974
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: four or five? Does Lance Lanor still crack that? Because

975
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: if he doesn't, like you said, you could maybe you

976
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 1: do go light and he doesn't make the team. Well,

977
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's guaranteed a spot based off

978
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: his camp so far, he's out a hell of a camp.

979
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: He cracked, He cracked the in in in camp. So

980
00:52:54,160 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: who would be your top four wide receivers? You know,

981
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: you know what the name we keep throwing in there,

982
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: that just kind of really doesn't make a whole hell

983
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: of a lot of sense. It is Herns. We keep

984
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: throwing his name in there's one of the four just

985
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: because he made money. No offense make Yeah, I know

986
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: you love the money factor. I had a thousand yards season,

987
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: but is he played enough this summer to make you

988
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: play the twenty five practice rule. Herns the top five

989
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: player in the twenty five practice rule. I'd put Lance

990
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: ahead of him based off of twenty five practices. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Bill,

991
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: you stood there and watch ball. Um. Yeah, I liked

992
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: Lance Lenoor what he did in practices. But I'm I'm

993
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: with you, guys, by the way. I'm with you. I'm

994
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: not against you, but I don't I would not we

995
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: automatically throw Lenor in there every single time. And it's

996
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: because he signed a contract Herns you mean, I mean Herns?

997
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Herns, my bad, thanks for creckt every time

998
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: we throw him in there? Is he is? He? I mean?

999
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: But it wasn't that great of a contract. See this

1000
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: was saying it's only what two years? Yes? Yeah, twelve

1001
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: million dollars right, six million a year? No, I think

1002
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: that's high, really, isn't it. I got it written down

1003
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: in here in the blue notebook we have. I got

1004
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: a blue notebook for this season, Alan a Hearns two years,

1005
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: eleven million dollars two point five guaranteed. So it's a

1006
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: one year deal. See this is where this is where

1007
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: I'm now having a problem among many problems that I have.

1008
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: Go ahead, keep going. Yeah, we keep automatically saying he's in,

1009
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: He's in, he's in. I would fight somebody right now, Okay,

1010
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 1: in that in that room. If you told me Alan

1011
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: Hearns is on this team, he's one of the five,

1012
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: I would fight you because I'm thinking because I would

1013
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: fight you if I if I love Lance Lenore, I

1014
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: would fight you if I was Thompson. Jay hasn't really

1015
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: practiced much practice. But you're but you're gonna put a guy. Yeah, yeah, okay, Yeah,

1016
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: I just bog down the show. But this is a

1017
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: great example of what goes on behind the scenes. I'm

1018
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: just trying to we automatically say you, gentlemen, I asked,

1019
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: or Bill asked, give me your top four, and I

1020
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: knew every one of you was going to include Hearns. Yeah,

1021
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: but does Hearns deserve to be one of the four?

1022
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: See if we just go on hoop played, you go

1023
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: totally on what they saw in twenty five practices. I

1024
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: think you have to factor in the track record. Okay,

1025
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: and so and the and the reason that they signed him. Okay,

1026
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: and not only this too, because Williams another one. But

1027
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: this is gonna be why this is why you're keeping Lenore? Yeah,

1028
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: because that you don't have the track record on him.

1029
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 1: But you do have a track record on Hearns, Williams, Beasley,

1030
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: Thompson to a certain degree, and Justin Austin. So what's

1031
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: the track record of Austin? He's got more yards per

1032
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 1: carry than he does reception yards. Thank you Stephen Thomas

1033
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 1: for telling me that one day or so. My question

1034
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: still stands, who's your Who are your top top four five?

1035
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: Who are you your top four? I know, okay, you

1036
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: we're talking. We're cutting this down. We've got an opportunity

1037
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: right now to trade a wide receiver to another team

1038
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: to get a backup interior offensive lineman. Now which one

1039
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: are we trading? Which is what I want to know

1040
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: is who are your top four or five wide receiver?

1041
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: Let's do this is a unit so you know, will Up?

1042
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: We all agree, right, yes, Gallup, Gallup, Beasley? We all agree.

1043
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: The air locks. Okay, Now you're gonna get into situation

1044
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: where okay, who can I I'm okay parting with guys.

1045
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 1: Now I'm putting on Austin in there, Okay. Why because

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Speaker 1: of the speed factor and the different things that they

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Speaker 1: have planned for, keeping the in the keepers. Yes see now, Brian,

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Speaker 1: And this goes back to what this is, Lenahan standing

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Speaker 1: on the table. Is the debate, This is this is

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Speaker 1: plans and expectations versus eye test, right right, You got

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Speaker 1: to have a balance of the two right when you're

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Speaker 1: cutting this thing down. You sure you can't go solely

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Speaker 1: off history or vision. Yeah, and you can't go solely

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Speaker 1: off eye test yet. But the offensive coordinator has a

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Speaker 1: vision for this player right on this team. Why he's

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Speaker 1: in there for this is the wide receiver conundrum because

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Speaker 1: there's not a great separation between the top seven guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Mickey, thank you. You You can make an argument.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. All these guys no one, no one has

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Speaker 1: definitely separated them. Halleujah. So we've got the senator from

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Speaker 1: Illinois saw the light. So how many of these receivers?

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Speaker 1: How many of these receivers are now on the trade block?

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Speaker 1: See what you're saying? If you okay, let's think about

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Speaker 1: if if you have the ones you want to keep,

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Speaker 1: if you want to keep Gallop, Beasley, Austin, everybody else's

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Speaker 1: free game? Am I right about that? From what we saw? Right?

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Speaker 1: And we're not going on history if when what we saw,

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Speaker 1: so that means Hearns, Terrence Williams, Deonte Thompson are all

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Speaker 1: on the bubble as far as trade, trade, trade possibilities. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that sounds right, and that may and that may give

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Speaker 1: you a spot if you trade a couple of them

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Speaker 1: from Lancelin. All right, that was enjoyable. We're gonna Jarrow

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