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Speaker 1: Warning, Today's episode contains spoilers for Alien Romulus in theaters now,

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Speaker 1: so if you haven't seen it, let's see it then listen. Suit. Hello,

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Speaker 1: my name is Jason and I'm Merday Night and welcome

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Speaker 1: back the Extra Vision of podcast where we dive deep.

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Speaker 1: It's your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture coming

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Speaker 1: to you from our podcasts where we're bringing you to

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Speaker 1: action packed episodes every Tuesday and Thursday.

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Speaker 2: In today's action Packed episode, previously on, there is news, news, news,

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Speaker 2: the Acolytes been casting, rip to that show black Smith

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Speaker 2: Wukong is here and shadd James Streemis, shadd those steam records,

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Speaker 2: borderlines for trailer, secret level trailer, some sad news from

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Speaker 2: the world of anime, and a new date for Marvel Rivals.

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Speaker 2: There's all kinds of news and we're getting into it.

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Speaker 2: In the airlock, we are breaking down Alien Romulus, Fede

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Speaker 2: Alvarez's box office smash hit, So if you haven't listened,

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Speaker 2: make sure you go back. I watched that movie before

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Speaker 2: you come in here because it's gonna be all spoilers.

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Speaker 2: And then we have a special guest star as Jason

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Speaker 2: interviews one of the fantastic stars of Alien Romulus Aileen lou.

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Speaker 1: Up next. Previously on Well, folks, we woke up to

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Speaker 1: some crazy news this morning. The Acolyte has been canceled.

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Speaker 1: There will be no season two. This is reported by

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Speaker 1: all the trades, Deadline, forty, et cetera. The show ended

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Speaker 1: up with a seventy eight percent on Rotten Tomatoes. But

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say there was some divisions.

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Speaker 1: It was certainly divisive in terms of ratings. It was

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Speaker 1: the worst performing Star Wars show. Now, a quick note

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Speaker 1: about ratings. It's impossible to get accurate streaming ratings from

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Speaker 1: Illuminate Data, some third party data site. And the thing

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Speaker 1: is their formulas are all different and have a lot

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Speaker 1: themselves would say that's not accurate. That aside, it certainly

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Speaker 1: appears that The Ecolyte was in terms of watches, in

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Speaker 1: terms of ratings, the worst performing and fell off over

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Speaker 1: the course of the series. And that is, you know,

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Speaker 1: in addition to the pretty toxic conversation around the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was hammered.

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Speaker 2: I definitely feel like we obviously can't know what's going

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Speaker 2: this was surprising to me because you know the surprised.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: The show had a very passionate fandom that loved it,

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Speaker 2: I think Disney has been seeking for their shows. That

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Speaker 2: negative parts of the fandom and choosing to cancel a

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Speaker 2: show based on that. I would say something we need

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Speaker 2: to notice. The show was incredibly expensive. It was one

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Speaker 2: by the way, like that's all that's a Disney problem.

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Speaker 2: Like if you want to make the show for less money,

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Speaker 2: which I know you do, Disney, then don't give it

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Speaker 2: I think there was so much more to come from this.

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Speaker 1: That would not surprise me. I think this is in

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Speaker 2: Also interesting that they just straight up canceled it rather

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Speaker 1: Next up, there is a new hit video game, and

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Speaker 1: Marv rivals. We have a release dates. What are you

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Speaker 1: Looks great. I can't wait to get in there with you.

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Speaker 2: Now, Roses big hit, Baby.

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Speaker 1: It's a huge all around the world.

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Speaker 2: People are enjoying it, people are feeling it, people are

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Speaker 1: Well, Rosie, I'll start. I like this movie. This is

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Speaker 1: I love the practical effects. I love the more of

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Speaker 2: that was pointed out in our pre production and people

432
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 2: are very upset about and Reddit, is that that Cousins

433
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: in the screen? Yeah, but no, that's Freddy says. It's

434
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 2: it's happening baby, And if you've seen Don't Breathe, this

435
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: man probably does not have a problem with that.

436
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll just say that's true. I mean, I'll

437
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: just say, of the Cousins thing, there's two thousand people

438
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: that live on this planet, like you've gotta you've got

439
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: to get busy somehow, and I think that obviously it's

440
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: not an ideal situation, but people, you know, life finds

441
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: a way, you.

442
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.

443
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: You simply can't have the same kind of uh red line,

444
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, criteria for finding a mate on a planet

445
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: where there's probably less people that live there than live

446
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: on your street. Yeah, like in certain areas of the country.

447
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: So I just feel like that didn't that didn't bump me.

448
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. That also I'm a big fan of Uh. I'm

449
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: a big fan of the fact that Feddy just made

450
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 2: his own like Reddit profile and then he kept getting

451
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: in trouble on Reddit because they were saying he was

452
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: impersonating himself because he was going around just like answering

453
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,239
Speaker 2: people's questions about the movie and read it was like

454
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: you are not Freeddy Alvarez and he was like, no,

455
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 2: I am, I really am. I promise. But yeah, I

456
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: think I definitely think that something about the First Alien

457
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: movie that makes it so special is look, Okay, first

458
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 2: of all, doesn't hurt that it has like a cast

459
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: of just absolutely stella character actors who would go on

460
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: to you know, become huge stars like Ian Holm and

461
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: yeaf At Koto and you know John Hurt, you know

462
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: you have and and I do think here they do

463
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: channel that because Isabella McCart is going to be a

464
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: huge star.

465
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: But there there was this there was this like ultimate

466
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: esque banter. Yeah, in that movie exact it's where they're

467
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: talking about their shares, and there all these little things

468
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: that add texture exactly where you know, you know what

469
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: they care about, you kind of understand what the situation

470
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: of working for this company.

471
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: Is, you understand really miss that. Yeah, I agree, I

472
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: wanted to know more about each of the characters before

473
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: they were in that situation. And I will say, pacing wise,

474
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: and I believe this is something that Fed's talked about

475
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: as well. Pacing wise, it does follow the first half

476
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: of the movie is far more in that alien slowburn

477
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: getting to the aliens, and then the second half is

478
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: more of an alien's kind of situation, lots of shooting,

479
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: lots of cool, gooey aliens. But I do think that

480
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: what's missing from that slowburn aspect is that interrogation of

481
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: like what are these relationships, Like how do they what

482
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: do they care about? Like what brought them together? What

483
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: do they pure And ironically is the one we get

484
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: to kind of know the most about just because we

485
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: learned that his mom was killed in a mining accident

486
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,719
Speaker 2: where they basically to see the androids had to like

487
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: seal her in the mind. But we don't really get

488
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: a lot And I think, you know, you made a

489
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: great point when we were talking about this ahead of it.

490
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: One of the things that the movie is definitely kind

491
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: of missing is like a lot of the set dressing

492
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: is just references to old alien movies. Fun, but it

493
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: takes away from like I would like you you know,

494
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: what were you saying about Tyler, about his like interest

495
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: in the military.

496
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: I thought that was Yeah, so there's like there's another

497
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: early in the film, when they first arrived on the

498
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: space station, you know, he's Tyler is giving these like

499
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: hand signism, like why are you giving these hand signals?

500
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: What's what's up with that? And that's our first hint

501
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: that Tyler is interested in the military. Maybe he wants

502
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: to join the Colonial Marines. And I thought it was

503
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: a real wasted opportunity to not we go to Tyler's apartment,

504
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: you don't see like to your point about the dressing, Yeah,

505
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: how about a poster for the Colonial Marines, how about

506
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: like some books about something, how about anything in that

507
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: living space that would suggest to me that that's an

508
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: interest to him. We open on Rain's bunk and it's

509
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: like anodyne. There's like nothing there. Uh, you know. Caren

510
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: was talking about the fact that we see that little

511
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: duck that little dunking duck. That's a callback to the

512
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: Alien film. That's great, But how about some stuff in

513
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: there that's personalized to these It makes it feel like

514
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: a living space. And again small note, really because I

515
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: loved everything else about the movie, But I I guess

516
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I wanted to love it more.

517
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: I want to love it so much more.

518
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: Than I do. I love the experience of it. I'm

519
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: gonna always be thinking about the animatronic alien and the

520
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: real animatronic face huggers. Like the way this movie looks

521
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: and feels is so fantastic, and I already do. Like

522
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: I said, I love the canon of like a I

523
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: would die for these kids, and like this is definitely

524
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: in that canon for me because I have a lot

525
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: of love Fatchi Renaut, who plays Tyler. He was in

526
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: Shadow and Bone and I saw he was so fantastic

527
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: in that. Kaylee Spenny, she's really, you know, giving that

528
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: like she was in the Oscar contention. She's been in

529
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: a twenty four movies and now she's here leading like

530
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: an action movie. I thought Aileen Woer's Navarro was easily

531
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: the coolest character who I wanted to know.

532
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: More punched above her weight.

533
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And I also think that something that she

534
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: really represents that I think the film does well is

535
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: the interconnections between the Alien movies and then the Prometheus

536
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: movies that Ridley Scott came back and made, because Navarro

537
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: has that connection to this religious exploration and that is

538
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: really a huge part of Prometheus. And then obviously we

539
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: get die more direct connections when we sort of start

540
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: to learn about the black Goo from this animorphs and

541
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: that the alien, the big chap alien from the first

542
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 2: movie survived. So this does lead us on to one

543
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: more conversation point, which is once you get onto the ship,

544
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 2: there's all this beautiful practical effects, but they find a synthetic,

545
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: the dead body of a synthetic who is revealed to

546
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 2: be as you mentioned, Ash, but this is Brook, but

547
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: he looks like Ash, who was played by Ian Holm

548
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 2: in one of the most chilling performances in the franchise.

549
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: I'll never forget when he wraps that tight little magazine

550
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: up to stuff down Sigourney Weaver's throat. So this is

551
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: this is Rook, who's another He is the science officer

552
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: on this ship, and he is the same model. So

553
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: you have Ian Holm's face, I just don't look. His

554
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: family supported this, which I love and that's important. That's

555
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: all mask But why didn't they do it with an

556
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: actual physical cast of I believe that one of those

557
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: must still exist somewhere from the original movie. I think

558
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: that the CGI of it all took the movie, but

559
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: it still has that uncanny valley.

560
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I did. My only thought is that

561
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: they must have tried, and they couldn't get it to work,

562
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: couldn't get it to look anywhere near good enough. Now,

563
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: I suppose there's a world in which if you can't

564
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: get it to look anywhere near good enough, maybe make

565
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: it look a lot worse and you really tear it

566
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: up and so it's only barely recognizable. But I'm sure

567
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: that they tried that, and this must have been the best,

568
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, the best option that they could have gone with.

569
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: It did it was for a movie that feels so tactile.

570
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 1: It was interesting. I let's talk about the phones. Characters

571
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: are phones in this.

572
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow, could you believe it?

573
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: There's a lot of other parts of this, like I

574
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: I love the weapon design, I loved the I loved

575
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: the face huggers. Oh they think the face Huggers were

576
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: more of a front. That's something we've kind of not

577
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: seen before. Also, is a more direct threat from the

578
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: face huggers where yes, warm of them coming at you.

579
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: And they did a really I think they did something

580
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: really smart as well, which is they're in the trailer.

581
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: They showed like all of the characters, Eileen Wu, you know,

582
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 2: Archie Renault, the Spike who played Beyond, they kind of

583
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 2: had these clips of them looking like they were getting

584
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: got by the face huggers. But actually they kind of

585
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 2: introduced this, if you can get the face hugger's horrific

586
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: tentacle out of your mouth before it implants the egg,

587
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: oh wait, you can maybe survive this. So we kind

588
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: of got this great horrific, very grotesque sequence where they're

589
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: all kind of fighting it first until it ultimately, you know,

590
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 2: gets at Navarro. But I thought that was really good.

591
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: I loved the face hugger scene where we finally got

592
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: to see it connect with Navarro. I thought that Eileen

593
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 2: Woo did an unreal job getting to do her own

594
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: version of that chest burster scene. I just generally did

595
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 2: think this was really fun. I loved getting to see

596
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 2: the proto pulse rife for kind of like the colonial

597
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 2: Marines having aliens. I also thought that there was a

598
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 2: there's a really really clever sequence that did something we'd

599
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: never seen before, which was this use of the anti

600
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: gravity with the acid blood when Spanny. That's really cool. Again.

601
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 2: I just think I'm like, David Johnson, give him an award, please,

602
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: because he just grounds this. It's like when you know

603
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: when they cost Adam Driver and Force Awakens, and the

604
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: whole time you're watching the movie, you're like, You're so

605
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: lucky that Adam Driver said he would play Kylo Ren

606
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: like you. This movie is great, and I obviously I

607
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: love the Force Awakens. I would die for my children Cannon,

608
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: it's definitely a part of it. But like when Adam

609
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 2: Driver is in that movie, You're like, this man is

610
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 2: bringing like Shakespearean Thespian levels of tragedy to this these

611
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: scenes with like Harrison Ford, and I feel like David

612
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: Johnson is that grounding kind of elevating force in this movie.

613
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: So and it's absolutely wild to see him from He

614
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: was in this absolutely delightful Hulu uh rom com called

615
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: Rye Rye Lane that was set in London in South

616
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: London and he's so charming and delightful in that. Please

617
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 2: go watch it. It's so good. But it was crazy

618
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: to then see him kind of playing this more complicated

619
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: like spooky figure when he you know, depending on which

620
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: andy we got, and I just thought it was like

621
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 2: really cool.

622
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: He's also great in the first two seasons of Industry.

623
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: Yes, oh my gosh, Industry season three, just saying if

624
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: you are looking for because this feels like there's it's

625
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: gonna be the new succession, right.

626
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: This is as in as quick aside about Industry season

627
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: three on HBO and Max. It has definitely leveled up.

628
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: If you're watching season one and season two, you're trying

629
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: to get through it and you're wondering, is this is it? Really?

630
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is for me. I promise

631
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: season three is thus far.

632
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: Coalesces is hitting three hard.

633
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: Anyway, back to the movie, I want to one final thing,

634
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: which is your thoughts on the engineer like alien xenomorph

635
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: human hybrid born from K's womb, bonded, bonded with her

636
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: unborn child, and let's talk about this alien. What did

637
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: you think of it? Also? Should this alien have tried

638
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: out for the NBA.

639
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 2: Definitely he should he should have been in the club

640
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: or shooting hoops. He's seven foot tall. You know what,

641
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: I'll be real with you. I thought it was very

642
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 2: clever design. I definitely liked that they made it look

643
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 2: like an engineer now knowing that this is now, knowing

644
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: that Fede has like confirmed that it is like it

645
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: was Buhn's baby. I also think this was probably Fede

646
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: doing some like, oh, incest baby with a xenomorph. I'm

647
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: not gonna lie. I'm just the lover of the original

648
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: xenomorph designs, and the Queen's aenomorph and like the alien

649
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: queen and basically anything Geiger does. So that that didn't

650
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 2: hit for me in like a spooky, like scary way.

651
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: I didn't think like, oh, I'm scared of this, but

652
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: I will say I did think it was like a cool,

653
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: unexpected twist. And I do think that every alien movie

654
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 2: needs to introduce some new version, and so I think

655
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: this was a unique way to bring together Prometheus and

656
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: the alien movies and kind of create something that was

657
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: really unique and never before seeing Carmen super producer Princess Carmen,

658
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: who's also an alien Stannus, you want to. Carmen was

659
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: terrified by the offspring, so it did. I think it

660
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 2: worked differently for other people.

661
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: It was gonna look. I really liked it and was

662
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: completely creeped out by it. Yeah. Uh, it was really disgusting.

663
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: And they grow so fast. I mean the thing grew

664
00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: to like seven foot.

665
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like it was twenty minutes. It was

666
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: like Twilight speed birth, like there giving birth and then

667
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 2: the baby and then the babies in the NBA. You know,

668
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: it's like so quickly, they grow up so fast. Okay,

669
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: So one thing I want to ask you quickly before

670
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: we end on this is like I feel like, because

671
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 2: the movie's made a lot of money and because it

672
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: was relatively affordable to make in the grand scheme of

673
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: like a dead poor Wolverine, I think this could lead

674
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: to more movies. But the question is is it gonna be.

675
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: I feel like they could do like a spin off

676
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: of this where they kind of follow Rain and Andy

677
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 2: because she said, you know, I believe she'll fix Andy.

678
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: They're both together, and they could kind of explore more

679
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 2: about like the mysterious life giving goo that we see

680
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: in Alien, that we see in Prometheus, and then we

681
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: now see in Alien Romulus, or they could just keep

682
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: making like weird anthology movies that fit more around different timelines.

683
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: I think I would the latter as much as I

684
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: want to see Andy, But like, what do you think, Like,

685
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: what do you think the next Alien movie is going

686
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: to be?

687
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: There is, of course Noah Hawley's Alien Earth. Yes, which

688
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: is it's going.

689
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 2: To be a true prequel, I guess saying.

690
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: In some kind of place in its production life cycle.

691
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: We don't know where. I personally, I think that the

692
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: tried and true. Here's the thing about Alien Romulus. It

693
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: is directly lifted from the original Alien formula, which is

694
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: Haunted House in Space.

695
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: Trapped room, trapped Room.

696
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: And I think that that that has a lot of

697
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: life and vitality in it, different places, different cast You

698
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: can do a lot of things with that, and you

699
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: can make pretty relatively cheap movies that people want to

700
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: see just based on that formula. Me personally, I would

701
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: I'm hoping to see. One of the things I liked

702
00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: about Prometheus is that it evolved the story, and I

703
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: think that's what I want is I want those scares.

704
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,479
Speaker 1: I want that monster movie, I want that Haunted House

705
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 1: in Space. But I'm hoping to see more of the world,

706
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: have it more fleshed out, maybe have there be more

707
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: challenges as we get more of these movies. But I

708
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: think one of the things that I'm really excited about

709
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: is that it's for sure we're gonna get that, We're

710
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: gonna get more opportunities for more alien movies. I agree

711
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: with how Gangbusters this film is going right now all

712
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: around the world.

713
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: I definitely didn't expect. I mean, this came out what

714
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 2: like three weeks after Deadpool and Wouverine and managed to

715
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: take it off, which I don't know if anyone saw coming.

716
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: Also as well, FEDDEI did have a cool idea and

717
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: we'll leave you with this, which is he did an

718
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 2: interview I believe it was with Deadline where he said,

719
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 2: I want to do an alien versus preditor movie that's

720
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: half directed by me and half directed by Dan Trachtenberg

721
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 2: who made Prey. Now I want to see that. I mean,

722
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: I'm like Disney green Light that movie.

723
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: It's like from Dusk Till Dawn but in Spain.

724
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: Oh, now we're talking.

725
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: We like this movie. Hope you go hope you liked

726
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 1: it too. Up next, you want more Alien Romulus. We've

727
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: got more. We've got an interview with Alien Romulus star

728
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: Alien Wu, who plays Navarro.

729
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: Check that out.

730
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: We're so excited to welcome Alien Wu, who plays Novarro

731
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: in Alien Romulus. Alien, thank you so much for joining us.

732
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 4: Of course, thank you for having me.

733
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: I was reading about the process of you getting the role,

734
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: and it's so fun. I was wondering if you might

735
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: share that with us.

736
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 4: I think it was February twenty twenty one. I was

737
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 4: back home in Vancouver having finished undergrad at NYU, and

738
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 4: my husband and I were actually working together when I

739
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 4: got the self tape. He was producing and I was

740
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 4: directing a bunch of high school students in a production

741
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 4: of Shakespeare's The Tempest, which is I was kind of

742
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 4: a fun odd job that he had gotten me. We

743
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 4: weren't married yet, and that was like one of his

744
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 4: schemes to get me to come back home from New York.

745
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 4: He was like, I got you a job. He can't

746
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 4: turn down a job, and I was like, yeah, I

747
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 4: really can't. And he made it first time working on

748
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 4: anything theater Shakespeare related. Yeah, it was. We were having

749
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 4: a blast, and you know, we were a month away

750
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 4: and this self tape request comes in from my manager Helen,

751
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 4: and she's like, bracket, this is alien because they don't

752
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 4: usually tell you what it is in the title when

753
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 4: it's such a big franchise. Yeah. We went over to

754
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 4: my husband's producing partners apartment to film it after like

755
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 4: a twelve hour rehearsal day because he had this really

756
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 4: cool setup with like the blue screen backdrop and oh wow. Yeah,

757
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 4: and I was like, yeah, let's let's use this because

758
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 4: mainly one of the scenes or a couple of the

759
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 4: scenes had the entire ensemble, and we thought it would

760
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 4: be a good idea to kind of like have two

761
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 4: people read with me so I wouldn't get confused and

762
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 4: help me with my eyelines. But yeah, I did watch

763
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 4: the first film before doing the tape because I had

764
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 4: never watched any of them before.

765
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 5: Did I read your introduction was through your brother's action figure.

766
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 4: Yes, this could tract. Yeah. So, while we moved to

767
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 4: Vancouver when we were still in elementary school, and my

768
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 4: mom as an incentive to get us to really learn English,

769
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 4: if we did well at our English class, like, she

770
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 4: signed us up for outside of school English classes to

771
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 4: help us, you know, get better faster. If we did

772
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 4: well at those. Every week, she'd bring my brother and

773
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 4: I to like this Action figure store every Friday and

774
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 4: we would get to pick out a toy. But it's

775
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 4: really just like me following my older brother around and

776
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 4: watching what he would pick out. And he'd always give

777
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 4: me like a big introduction or like description of who

778
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 4: this is, what universe they're from, what powers they have.

779
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 4: But one day, like a xenomorph showed up. I didn't

780
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 4: know what it was, and I was like, this is weird,

781
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 4: and he's like, don't worry about it. I'll tell you

782
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 4: about next week's but this one's just for me.

783
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 5: Has he seen you in the movie yet?

784
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 4: No? He hasn't.

785
00:46:51,800 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, David, my older brother David, He like we

786
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 6: have a funny relationship.

787
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 4: Like he's the only person I feel like in my

788
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 4: life who's like never impressed with what I do. It's

789
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 4: just like you will always be like my stupid, annoying

790
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 4: little sister who would not leave me alone ever growing up,

791
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 4: who I always have to clean up after because like

792
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 4: I threw a lot of parties during high school and

793
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 4: he would My parents would assign him as like babysitter

794
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 4: and he would have to like show up at these

795
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 4: parties and like help clean up and like like clean

796
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 4: puke off the floor, so like and be like stop

797
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 4: smoking in the backyard and like drive my drunk friends home.

798
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 4: And he wouldn't get to like drink and have fun

799
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 4: at these parties. So that's that's kind of our relationship,

800
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 4: which which I think honestly is very good for me,

801
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 4: Like it keeps me very grounded, humble. Yeah, so I

802
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 4: think he'll see it at some point, but I think

803
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 4: when it all dies down and like he gets to

804
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 4: like see it and by himself, you know, in our hometown.

805
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: So sometimes when you send in a self tape, you

806
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: know you're waiting. You don't know how, you know, you

807
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: don't know what the what the reaction is. How quick

808
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: did the process happen? After sending in the tape, Oh,

809
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: it was.

810
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 4: The next day they were like, they want to do

811
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 4: a zoom callback. I was like, great, I'd never gotten

812
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 4: a zoom callback from doing a self tape before. I

813
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 4: had only been with my agent, my manager, Helen, for

814
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 4: a year up to that point, and she was great.

815
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 4: She sent me things like back to back to back

816
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 4: and I would tape for them, and I feel like

817
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 4: it really built like that audition muscle in me. But

818
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 4: that was truthfully the first a callback that I got.

819
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 4: And then yeah, I did the callback, met Mary Renew

820
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 4: and Sydney. They were great to give me a couple

821
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 4: of notes. I did it like twice, and then two

822
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 4: days after I had that call back, they sent me

823
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 4: the full script, had me read it, and then I

824
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 4: was on a call with Fede who was in Budapestuary

825
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 4: and then he kind of gave me the role during

826
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 4: the call like that call, but I didn't really know

827
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 4: that that was what was going on. It was like,

828
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 4: so you you down to do this, and I was like, yeah,

829
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 4: this is are you tricking me? Because you know, my

830
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 4: my manager and my husband as well, who works mainly

831
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 4: as a film producer, they warned me. They're like, hey,

832
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 4: you have to wait for the official contract from studio. Like,

833
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 4: don't get your hopes up. There's a lot lot of

834
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 4: horror stories with actors getting in the process of getting

835
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 4: roles that like last minute they pull out and it's

836
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 4: like getting the rug pulled out from under them. It's

837
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 4: the worst feelings. So like, just really stay grounded, plant

838
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 4: your feet and we wait no matter what happens on

839
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 4: the zoom call we wait until your name is on

840
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 4: a piece of paper underneath the line where you can

841
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 4: sign your name. I was like, okay, got it. So

842
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 4: when he said that, I was like, they warned me

843
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 4: about this.

844
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 5: It's funny. We'll talk to us about the first time

845
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 5: you walk on set.

846
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 4: Oh man, I was so never been to Budapest before.

847
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 4: A beautiful, beautiful country. And then the studio is huge.

848
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 4: It's where they also filmed like Doom Part one and

849
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 4: part two, so it's like giant, giant buildings that look

850
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 4: like warehouses. And Fete is giving me, Archie and Spike

851
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 4: a tour. So we just went in and every studio

852
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 4: had like different sets were built in them, and I

853
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 4: was just like can I film this? I'm very like

854
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 4: or is that not allowed? But yeah, he was just

855
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 4: so excited to was so excited to show us everything.

856
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 4: It truly was like his his baby.

857
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: You know, I've read that, And this is kind of

858
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: unique for feature films that it was filmed in order.

859
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 4: Yes, it was a film all chronologically.

860
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: That's wild. So your first scene is the first thing

861
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: that you did after arriving on set?

862
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much.

863
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: Wow? So what was that like?

864
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 4: It was such. I mean, this is my first feature film.

865
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 4: I had no idea what I was. I was like,

866
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 4: is this normal? Do we always shoot in chronological order?

867
00:51:54,600 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 4: And everybody was like, no, this never happens. I was like, oh, okay,

868
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 4: well this is a treat. I think it really kicked

869
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 4: in afterwards. Oh, I just got a miss call from

870
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 4: wonder what's going on. I'll call him back if.

871
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: You want to close it of a text? Wee can

872
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: you don't want to?

873
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 4: No? No, it's okay, I like to. Yeah, it didn't

874
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 4: for the chronological part. Oh, he's really calling again.

875
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we'll meet the Yeah, feel free to.

876
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 4: Meet in Sorry guys.

877
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 5: Oh my god, that was the sweetest thing.

878
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 4: He's a sweet, sweet man. So just called me. I

879
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 4: missed the first one, but I picked up the second one.

880
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 4: He was like, this, this movie is making so much money.

881
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 4: I'm not very good with numbers, he said the number,

882
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 4: but it's making a lot of money.

883
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: In the China market, it really is.

884
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 4: And yeah, and he said there's not like a massive

885
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 4: cult following in China, so it really is just credits

886
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 4: to us and specifically me. That was very sweet because

887
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 4: this is the thing even in the audition request. They

888
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 4: were like, if you speak another language, please do one

889
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 4: of the tapes in the other language that you speak.

890
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 4: So I did that. Yeah, I've never seen that before.

891
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 4: I've never experienced that with a tape before. And after

892
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 4: we got on set, he was like, hey, your tapes,

893
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 4: those Mandarin takes that you did were so cool. Do

894
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 4: you mind if we bring some of that while filming

895
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 4: and like brainstorm some moments where Navarro would speak in

896
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 4: her mother tongue. So there's a couple moments in the

897
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 4: film where I got to speak Mandarin and I'm getting

898
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 4: some like traction like just on Instagram and stuff like

899
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 4: that of people being like, wow, this is this is

900
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 4: so special. First Asia an actress in this franchise and

901
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 4: she's speaking Mandarin. This is so cool.

902
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: That is really cool. How did you choose the moments?

903
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 4: Like what were the I went for the private moments.

904
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 4: I went for the more private moments that Navarro was having.

905
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 4: And really it was like very collaborative with Fei. He

906
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 4: would be like half the time he'd be like, hey,

907
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 4: I think this is a and I was like, yes,

908
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 4: I agree. I was just going to go to you

909
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 4: and say that maybe it's here. Yeah, And he'd be

910
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 4: like saying maybe something like this, and I'll be like, okay, okay,

911
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 4: I got you. And then I would like try to

912
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 4: come up with something and like call my mom and

913
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 4: call my husband right before we roll and be like,

914
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 4: does this make sense? Because my Mandarin is not perfect?

915
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 4: Like it's been a long time since I've been in

916
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 4: an environment where it's all Mandarin speaking, so I feel

917
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 4: like I kind of speak it brokenly.

918
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 5: That he seems like such a actor's director as watch

919
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 5: a bunch of like videos with him and talking about

920
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 5: his process and everything. And one thing that really stuck

921
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 5: out to me that that was interesting, is it sometimes

922
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 5: he'll barbecue for the cast and crew, he said, especially

923
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 5: if there's like a really difficult day or week ahead,

924
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 5: like to sort of prep them. I was wondering if

925
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 5: he barbecued for you guys, and if so, can you

926
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 5: raise his food so good?

927
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 4: Such good barbecue? He he brings the meat from Uruguay.

928
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 4: I'm not kidding, he like, he puts, yes, I don't

929
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 4: know how you did that. He's like, guys, this is

930
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 4: meat from Uruguay arrived this morning. And he barbecues for

931
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 4: the entire cast and crew, like hundreds and hundreds of

932
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 4: thousands of people. And he says this is a tradition

933
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 4: of his and he does this every film that he's directing.

934
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 4: Before we start shooting. Wow, and like his his wife

935
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 4: is like chopping up the bread and making the chimmy

936
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 4: churry and the salad, and his uncle is there and

937
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 4: his kids are running around like it's the best, it's

938
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 4: the best vibes.

939
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: That is so cool, you know, it struck me thinking

940
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: about this movie, which is notable for use of extensive

941
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: use of really practical like in camera effects, and it's

942
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,720
Speaker 1: so interesting that your self tape like had a blue screen,

943
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: Like Yeah, I talk to us about like the contrast

944
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: between you know, going from this self tape and this

945
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: really quick process to then ending up on set where

946
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,479
Speaker 1: you know, you've got a chest burster thing like on

947
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: you three chess burster. Yeah, there's like what there's water

948
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: and grease and stuff dripping off everything. I talked to

949
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: Loube apparently, yeah, Loube, apparently you're stuck in a hole

950
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: for a period of time, So what is that? What's that?

951
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 5: Like?

952
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 7: That was really crazy. I really just tried to take

953
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 7: it one day out of time. You're honest, with y'all,

954
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 7: and I think folmin in chronological order again really helped

955
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 7: with that because like you could track with the script

956
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 7: as we went on really.

957
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 4: Easily, and it came very naturally. The journey of her downfall,

958
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 4: which is also very short, yeah, because it just it

959
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 4: happens and then all shit goes down once it once

960
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 4: she's attacked, everything happens super fast paced. So yeah, that

961
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 4: was very exhilarating. It's just like, Okay, face hugger's check,

962
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 4: We've done a week of that, next week the chess

963
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 4: burser check, and then okay, let's do the appendage coming

964
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 4: out of my mouth with second You know, we kept

965
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 4: looking forward to that moment and it never came on tip.

966
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,439
Speaker 4: Right before I was stepping off set, they were like, yeah,

967
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 4: that's right, we haven't shot.

968
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 8: That one scene one moment yet. Let's let's do that

969
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 8: with second unit. And I was like, damn, I wish

970
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 8: I got to do it with FEddi. But once we

971
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 8: started filming that, I was like, Okay, it makes a

972
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 8: lot of sense that we're doing this on second unit

973
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 8: because it's just like a very technical shot and it's

974
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 8: like one set up and yeah, we spent like I

975
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 8: think six seven hours doing that one one take, over

976
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 8: and over and over.

977
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 5: This is where you're pulling the face hugger off you.

978
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 4: Yes, everybody thinks it's CGI, but it's not.

979
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 5: Wow holy yow.

980
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 4: And no, no, it doesn't actually go all the way

981
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 4: down to my stomach. I didn't have to swallow a

982
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 4: thing every take.

983
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: As a producer, director yourself, were you able to glean

984
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: anything from being on set that you're like, oh, this

985
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: is this will help me as I evolve in my career.

986
00:58:54,520 --> 00:59:00,479
Speaker 4: Two things Fedi's kindness. Kindness as the director goes such

987
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 4: a long way, especially when the task at hand is

988
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 4: very large and challenging. Yeah, his patience and his kindness.

989
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 4: And then that leads to my second thing. When you

990
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 4: have that, it's easier to get everyone to have the

991
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 4: mentality of like, let's get this shot. We either have

992
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 4: this or we don't. We have to do this for

993
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 4: the audience and really honor what their experience, what experience

994
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 4: we want them to have and aim for the fucking stars.

995
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 4: If you aim for it, then there's that's the only

996
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 4: possible way that you might have a chance of reaching

997
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 4: that well.

998
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: Alien the movie is a huge hit, You're a big

999
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,479
Speaker 1: part of that. Congratulations on the success of the film

1000
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: and your success, and thank you so much for joining

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00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: us again.

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00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 4: Thank you guys so much. This is lovely much.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to Alien Wu for joining us. Coming up on

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00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: X ray Vision, we're gonna be diving into Godzilla, Monster Island,

1005
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: Summer Cambriton by somebody who is on this it's recording session,

1006
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna be recapping Rings of Power season one.

1007
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: Oh baby, stay tuned for that. And that's it for

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Speaker 1: this episode. Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 2: Bye.

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Speaker 1: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Kenseepsion and Rosie

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01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our executive

1012
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: producers are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer

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Speaker 1: is a Boo Zafar. Our producers are Carmen Laurent and

1014
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Speaker 1: Mia Taylor. Our theme song is by Brian Basquez.

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Speaker 2: Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman

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Speaker 2: and Heidi A discolled moderata