1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: M hm, Hey everybody, I'm Robert Evans. That was another 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: classic terrible introduction to Behind the Bastards, the show where 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: we tell you everything you don't know about the very 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: worst people in all of history. And my guests today 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: are Katie Johnston. We've been talking for two hours so 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: and Katie still I am frazzled and have been reading 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: paper for two an hour talking. I mean we're tired. 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: You must this is the right Yeah, you're still sick. 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: I still feel fine. You guys are the patrons of 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: the some more news network Patreon, uh, and today we're 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: going to be talking about a subject that we should 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: be exhausted and a little bit frazzled to talk about. 13 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: You guys, remember that go fund me to try to 14 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: build that wall dollars. Now, if you paid attention to 15 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: sort of like the way that was presented on social media, 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: it was dumb. Rubes paid raised twenty million dollars to 17 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: build the wall, and then go fund me were funded 18 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: at all. That's not what happened. What happened is terrible 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: and frustrating. We're gonna get into that, but first we're 20 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: going to get into the guy behind that campaign, Brian Colefage. 21 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: On Tuesday, October eleventh, two eighteen, Facebook deleted eight and 22 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: ten pages from their site for quote inauthentic behavior. Some sites, 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: like Newsweek, we're quick to comment about the bias of 24 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: this purge. Quote Newsweek's title is Facebook biased against conservatives? 25 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: Right wing news? Other fake news sites taken down. American Thinker, 26 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: another conservative site, echoed this angle. Facebook's midterm purge of 27 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: conservative pages well under way now. While most of the 28 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: outrage came from the right, both left wing and right 29 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: wing sites were deleted wholesale, and in true Facebook fashion, 30 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: the purges seemed to have been a mix of legitimately 31 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: toxic bullshit being axed and also legitimate activist pages being 32 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: deleted because they ran a foul of an algorithm. Because again, 33 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: it's Facebook. They don't think about anything they do. They do. 34 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: Even if they're trying to do a good thing, they're 35 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 1: going to do it in the dumbest way. Abso yeah, yeah, 36 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: we promise we will do the right thing the wrong way. 37 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: Eventually is the face and algorithm do it? Can machine thoughts? Yeah? 38 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: Here's the Guardian quote and a statement posted to its 39 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: online newsroom. Facebook says it purge these pages because their 40 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: owners were using fake accounts, sharing the same content between 41 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: multiple pages, and linking to add supported websites. It calls 42 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: add farms, but what the social network called spam, the 43 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: owners of these pages called standard up procedures for operating 44 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: on Facebook. Nearly all the page owners contacted by the 45 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: Guardians say they use backup or fake accounts along with 46 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: their real ones. They do it in part to protect 47 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: themselves from being targeted by political opponents and having their 48 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: real accounts end up in Facebook jail, says Edward Lynn, 49 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: the editor in chief of Reverb Press, a left leaning 50 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: news side whose Facebook page disappeared yesterday. Now The Guardian 51 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: talked to left wing and right wing content makers who 52 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: believe they had been unfairly targeted. One of those people 53 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: was and cole Fage Quote Brian cole Fage, another disabled 54 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: veteran who administered the right wing news page, as well 55 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: as three other conservative pages that were removed, says his 56 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: organization worked closely with Facebook. He showed copies of emails 57 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: with a Facebook executive in which he tried to set 58 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: up a meeting to talk about how his pages could 59 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: adhere to the networks evolving policies regarding political content. The 60 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: meeting was abruptly canceled. A week later, his pages were gone. 61 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: I've talked with Facebook maybe fifty times in the last months, 62 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: he says, not once. Did they ever say we broke 63 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: any rules or did something wrong. If they had an issue, 64 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: they could have brought it up. We had a really 65 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: close working relationship. That's why this whole thing is a 66 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: complete shock. Now. Brian cole Fage will again be our 67 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: subject today. If you don't recognize his name immediately when 68 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: he's he's the guy behind build the Wall, Go fund 69 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: me now. In two eighteen, the website Media Matters launched 70 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: a study evaluating four hundred and sixty three prominent political 71 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: Facebook pages from January to July of that year. They 72 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: found that images posted on right wing pages did better 73 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: than any other kind of political content. A follow up 74 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: study on twenty six right meme generating pages found that 75 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: Facebook's algorithm changes tended to boost their traffic rather than 76 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: reduce it. On August thirty one, eighteen, Media Matters published 77 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: another study with the goal of tracking major narratives pushed 78 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: by these meme pages and identifying the pages most responsible 79 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: for spreading the sort of misinformation. The study heavily implicated 80 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: in network of sites focused around Brian Colefage's right wing 81 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: News quote. One Facebook network used pro Trump groups run 82 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: by fake news sites to push its content through right 83 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: wing circles. Five pages tied to the far right website 84 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: right wing News each post of the exact same engagement 85 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: bait meme calling for the cancelation of the TV show 86 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: the view in light of Roseanne's cancelation, within about an 87 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: hour of each other. The most popular post in this 88 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: batchhead over seven hundred thousand interactions. Between the five page posts, 89 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: the meme earned almost one point three million interactions. Three 90 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: pages in the same network shared the most popular post 91 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: from the Trump Republic later that night and in an 92 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: additional forty one seven hundred interactions. Right Wing News also 93 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: pushed this meme through its Facebook group and a now 94 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: deleted post. The personal account of Amanda Shay, who runs 95 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: two of right wing news pages, shared the most popular 96 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: post from right wing News is batch of memes into 97 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: the group President Donald Trump Official All Caps LLC with 98 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: a static text calling for a boycott of ABC. The 99 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: post got over eight thousand, four hundred interactions before it 100 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: was deleted. The group President Donald Trump Official LLC was 101 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: originally started by right Wing News is official Facebook page. 102 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: Six of the group's twelve administrators are pages that are 103 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: part of the right wing news networks. Amanda Chet's personal account, 104 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: along with the personal account of administrators and moderators to 105 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: the group, regularly pushes post from right wing News as 106 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: network of pages to the President Donald Trump Official LLC 107 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: groups a hundred and eighty three thousand plus members. So 108 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: we're building this something here. There were several large networks 109 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: of right wing meme and fake news generating pages. Right 110 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: Wing News, run by Cole fag was the center of 111 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: one of these networks. They all reinforced each other, creating 112 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: a never ending font of viral content. So the one 113 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: Roseanne related meme that right Wing News posted earned nearly 114 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: one point six million interactions solely from circulating through these networks, 115 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: Like you could get something an enormous amount of content, 116 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: and the main goal seems to have been driving ad revenue, 117 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: because they would have ads on these pages would make 118 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: a shipload of money. Now, when Facebook purged all these pages, 119 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: it seemingly wiped out Brian Cofage's digital empire. He responded 120 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: in the way of all aggrieved parties in the twenty 121 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: first century, using go fund me to raise money for 122 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: a court case. I'm not a conservative. I'm not a liberal. 123 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm an American with deep beliefs in what our country 124 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: stands for. I proved this by vowing to protect and 125 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: fighting for America's greatest tenant, free speech. Many Americans have 126 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: fought for these political freedoms, freedom of speech, and every 127 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: American has enjoyed those freedoms until today. On October eleventh, 128 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: two eighteen, Facebook shutdown thousands of Facebook accounts for their 129 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: political opinions, saying an effect that they don't have a 130 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: legitimate political argument. Stop social media censorship now, until today, 131 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: until everything now. Over the last two months, this campaign 132 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: has gained almost seven four thousand dollars if it's a 133 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollar goal. In the campaign, Brian talks up 134 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: his military credentials and his story is pretty incredible. Quote 135 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: from Brian, I'm a veteran of the United States Air Force. 136 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: I was severely wounded in combat. Combat is capitalized, not 137 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: with a camp four while serving in Iraq. I lost 138 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: both my legs entirely in my right hand. I'm the 139 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: most severely wounded US airmen to survive. You'll hear that 140 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: line a lot with any points out most severely wounded 141 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: US airmen. Maybe it's true, but like it's hard, you 142 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: can't quantify most, like it's the guy that loses two 143 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: hands and one leg less severely, Like yeah, Tammy Duckworth 144 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: can't walk, Yeah, exactly. You know. It's it's legitimately horrifying 145 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: injury that he suffered. Hard to imagine going through that. 146 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: But he's also really done a good job of painting 147 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: himself out, making lemons out of lemonade. He's the most 148 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: severely injured, and the buck stopped there was free speech. Yeah, 149 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: he was the he was the first guys been threatened. 150 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: Now also when he knows he was severely wounded in combat, 151 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: you kind of debate that too, because in other videos 152 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: he said he was on an air base when this happened. 153 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: A hundred and seven millimeter rocket landed a couple of 154 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: feet away from him and blew him up. He's heading 155 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: to the gym, um. I mean, you could argue, I guess, 156 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: and I think for the purpose of like getting an 157 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: award for something like this, like you get your shot 158 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: at by the enemy or whatever, like, I'm not gonna 159 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: split hairs with a guy who lost three limbs. But again, 160 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: you can kind of see what he's going for. On 161 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: his website, Brian Cole Fage motivational veteran speaker, there is 162 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: a picture of him severely wounded in the hospital with 163 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: a guy laying a purple heart on his chest. It 164 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: is the main picture of the website. This is like 165 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: the front page of his site as him severely wounded 166 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,599 Speaker 1: in a gurney. So that's him, and then that's his medal. Yeah, 167 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: that's his medal. Now, it is hard to imagine someone 168 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: getting injured worse than Brian cole Flag and surviving. He 169 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: said about his injury quote, I was fully conscious after 170 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: my friends rolled me over my back, remember every detail 171 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: like it was yesterday. I wasn't in any pain at first. 172 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: I remember being pissed because I knew what had happened 173 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: and how it happened. I looked at my hand and 174 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: it was hanging by skin like it had been shoot off. 175 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: My hand was folded backwards and hanging. I tried looking 176 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: at my legs, but my friend, Senior Airman Cortez, put 177 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: his hand over my eyes so I wouldn't see. I 178 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: told him to just get me home. Once he got home, 179 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: Quofage had to relearn virtually everything about day to day life, 180 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: from how to tie his shoes to how to do 181 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: everything else we do that's not shoe tying. Brian's story 182 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: is undoubtedly harrowing, and the rather spectacular nature of his 183 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: survival and recovery ensured that he would get work as 184 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: a sort of inspirational figure. He's been on Anderson Cooper, 185 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 1: He's met George W. Bush, he's done photo ops with 186 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: Mike Huckabee, he's won awards, and he's pretty plugged into 187 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: a certain corner of the conservative media ecosystem. But he's 188 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: also never been quite mainstream. So Brian still in progress. 189 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: Go fund me to fight Facebook made vague promises about 190 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: his access to the Trump inner circle. In an update, 191 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: he posted quote, we're talking with a major law firm 192 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: who worked with the Trump transition team, and they are 193 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: now assisting us in moving ahead on our legal case 194 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: and also getting Zuckerberg hauled back into a Senate Congress 195 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: hearing so Americans can hold him accountable. Your donations will 196 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: be used to jump start the legal proceedings. Against Facebook. Now, 197 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: I want to note right now that this is not 198 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: Brian's first go fund me. His first go fund me 199 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: was made in two thousand fifteen, and its goal was 200 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: to support what he called a veteran mentorship program. In 201 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: the original Facebook post for that, he claims, quote, my 202 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: wounded warrior mentor engagement program was created after Obama slashed 203 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: military spending. Up to that point, the U. S Military 204 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: would fund my trips to visit wounded warriors who needed 205 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: a little motivation. When doctor saw a patient struggling, they 206 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: reached out to me and I donate my time to 207 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: put these vets back on track. So he claimed to 208 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: have deals in place with Walter Reid, laun Stool and 209 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: other official military hospitals. His campaign raised sixteen thousand, two 210 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: hundred and forty six dollars. BuzzFeed confirmed through go fund 211 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: me that all of these funds went directly to Brian 212 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: cole Faje. I have not found any information on his 213 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: mentorship programs since, although just based on what he promised, 214 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: going out and hanging with wounded vets who are buddies 215 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: of his on occasion would technically qualify. BuzzFeed reached out 216 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: to all of the medical centers call fage named. None 217 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: of them had any agreements in place with him or 218 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: had ever heard of his mentorship program. Sure BuzzFeed actually 219 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: published the best article I found on this guy. It's 220 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: titled I Felt Dirty. Former employees of veteran crowdfunding Trump's 221 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: Wall say he pushed fake news to get rich. The 222 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: article does not paint a positive picture of Brian cole Foch. 223 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: Lindsay Lowery, who wrote under the alias Prissy Holly, wrote 224 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: for a cool Fasch's main site, Freedom Daily. Quote. After 225 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: I started challenging some of his business decisions that I 226 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: felt were reckless for the company and for my career, 227 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: the real Brian emerged. Everything is only about his war 228 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: hero persona and money. If there's a perceived slight on 229 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: his part, he viciously attacks people and in my case, 230 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: tries to destroy their life and livelihood. Now in their conversations, 231 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: he claimed to run a multimillion dollar business, which may 232 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: well have been true. He also advised her on how 233 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: to gin up fake stories for outrage clicks. Quote. Former 234 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: employees told BuzzFeed News that col fag instructed his crew 235 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: to produce Facebook content to more flagrantly convey a false narrative, 236 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: and one instance photoshopping former President Obama's head onto another 237 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: body to make it appear as though he was having 238 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: an affair with the caption breaking Obama Busted video leaked. 239 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: You'll love this one, he texted employees during a conversation 240 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: about manipulating images. Um, yeah, You're free speech is being silenced, bro, 241 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: I mean that makes me so angry. It's really gross, 242 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: and it's it's one of these things like the people 243 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: BuzzFeed are talking to we're all fine writing for far 244 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: right hill pages, so like, oh yeah, no, I mean, 245 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: and were like, yeah, that's part of what we did. Yeah, 246 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: we'd create these fake things. Knowingly pushing the fake stuff 247 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: is like really, it makes me insane. And there's some 248 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: stuff I left out about her, like accusing him of 249 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: going after her and her husband and stuff, because it's 250 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: just like, I just don't know how credible you are, 251 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: but it's not. I can't. But I'm not gonna feel 252 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: sorry for you. Right, you had a job lying and 253 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: now you're you know, the person that you were working with. 254 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: Yeah you know, you know, Yeah, You're job is to 255 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: breaking Obama Busted. But which I guess that was a 256 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: line too far for them, right, But like, yeah, even 257 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: like knowingly photos shopping it. It's not even like we're 258 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: misrepresenting it accidentally or like we heard it from somebody else. 259 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: Like no, it's gonna make up something, put it out 260 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: there like they're one of the biggest. There's such a 261 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: big problems. So yeah, how do you get people to 262 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: stop focusing on that and stop believing it? You can't anyway, Yeah, 263 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: or well was right that people just want to spend 264 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: some time every day hating something, Yeah, with other people, 265 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: and Facebook has made that easier than ever. Thanks Mark, 266 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, Mark, You're really you're gonna do Hey, remember 267 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: when Mark Zuckerberg was touring the country because he thought 268 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: he was going to run for president. I'm glad we've 269 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: shut that. I feel like the whole country got unified 270 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: for a second, to be like we all hate each other, 271 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 1: but no, no, no, no, absolutely, under no circumstances. We 272 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: can't agree on whether or not we should be one country, 273 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: but we're all agreed. That's not okay. Oh god, what 274 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: if we could just turn him into like the kind 275 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: of like alien invasion that we need to unify human 276 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: What if we all eat Mark Zuckerberg eat eat. Yeah, 277 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: Like it's like the exidential crisis of climate change or 278 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: something like that could do it. But I think eating 279 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: Mark zucker it might be an easier we can all 280 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: get on board that. Maybe. Yeah, I mean I feel 281 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: like that's ethical consumption under capitalism. Eating Mark Zuckerberg. It's 282 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: not like he's going to taste like meat. No, we're 283 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: not doing it for the flavor he has, eat my 284 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: human meat. No, yeah, that's exactly how we'd say, Oh, Mark, Okay, 285 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: So we're going to get back to the rest of 286 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: Brian cole Flage's story and how it gets way more 287 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: sinister than I had guessed west of this research. But 288 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: first products and services. Maybe here's some ads, and we're back. 289 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: We're talking about Brian cole Fage. Now, Brian ran a 290 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: constellation of sites. The Guardian was definitely off when they 291 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: said he only had three, at least ten, probably more 292 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: like dozens more. These pages had names like Patriot Nation 293 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: and right wing News. Every page was boosting and sharing 294 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: what went up on every other page. Co Fage claimed 295 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: you have purchased one page with a reach of one 296 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: million people per week for a hundred thousand dollars. He 297 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: seems to have started hiring people in two thousand and sixteen, 298 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: paying two dollars per thousand clicks on Facebook, which was 299 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: seen as a good rate by the employees interviewed. It's 300 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: hard to say just how many pages he operated or 301 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: how much money he made. It was enough to drive 302 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: twenty million page views to his website Freedom Daily and 303 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: one month in two thousand seventeen, or at least according 304 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: to BuzzFeed, which was about three thousand dollars in monthly 305 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: ad revenue on just that website. He's making money off 306 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: of the revenue of this stuff on Facebook. He has 307 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: other websites. He's potentially making millions of dollars a year 308 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: doing this, at least he was until his revenue stream 309 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: from Freedom Daily was cut off in March two. Yeah, 310 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: well that was later. That was when Facebook was sounds 311 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: his website Freedom Freedom Daily was cut off in March 312 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: of eighteen. He was NBC News explaining why. Quote. The 313 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: shuttering of kofass sites came a month after Michigan man 314 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: Joel van vangele Huge sued Freedom Daily and other right 315 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: wing sites from misidentifying him as the driver of the 316 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: car that plowed into a group of peaceful protesters at 317 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: a two thousand seventeen white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. 318 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: The Freedom Daily article relied on an image board four 319 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: Chan as its major source. According to a letter provided 320 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: by the court by the contributor named in the suit, yep, yep, yeah, 321 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: so he lost his websites before he lost his face books. 322 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: Um good good yeah uh NBC quote. The site often 323 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: trafficked and false, inflammatory and racist content, including headlines like 324 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: obnoxious black people lose their minds when Victoria's secret model 325 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 1: says this one word on live video, and Trump just 326 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: released embarrassing VIDs of Obama's Muslim friends that he never 327 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: wanted seen. I hate it really really gross, really gross. Yeah. 328 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: So the website is currently defunct, and it does seem 329 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: that Facebook sweep succeeded and, if not wiping out, severely 330 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: damaging Brian co Faj's empire of bullshit. Co Fash himself 331 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: is permanently banned from Facebook due to both his manipulation 332 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: of their system and a number of harassment complaints smiled 333 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: against him. Now that all went down in the middle 334 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: of October. On December six, that same year, Brian cole 335 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: Fas created the fundraiser for Donald Trump's long promised wall. 336 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: It quickly went viral and then viral or. The goal 337 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: this time was to raise one billion dollars. Co fa 338 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: planed to have. Didn't realize how much money that was, 339 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: did you. Brian co Fag claimed to have some vague 340 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: connection to the Trump administration who had assured him that 341 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: there was a way the government could take the money. 342 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: So his promise at the beginning was I'm not getting 343 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: a dime of this, A hundred percent of it is 344 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: going to the government. On January eleven, two thou nineteen, 345 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: after raising well over twenty million dollars from threety six thousand, 346 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: two d and thirty seven donors, Brian co Fag posted 347 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: an update and I created the viral campaign that raised 348 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: over twenty million dollars for the Southern border wall. And 349 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: it's only possible because of your donation. So thank you. 350 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: But do you really think the Democrats and Congress will 351 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: take the money you donated and put it towards the 352 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: Southern border wall? I doubt it. That's why we are 353 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: changing our mission from we fund the wall, so we 354 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: build the wall, and we the people can build the wall. 355 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: We consulted with our nation as leading experts on border 356 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: security and construction. There's hundreds of miles of private land 357 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: along the border. To continue this mission, we need you 358 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: to opt in so that your donation counts. The one 359 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: thing I learned from being a triple amputee is that 360 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: anything is possible. We the people can build the wall, 361 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: but I need your help. If you're sick and tired 362 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: of Democrats holding national security over our heads, opt in now. 363 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: We build the wall, and we can start now. We'll 364 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: be getting the opt in in a second. Wait a minute, 365 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: privately build the wall. Yeah, you're gonna have to. That's 366 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: people's land. Like I have to say, what I'm about 367 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: to explain is actually a kind of genius con It's not. 368 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: He's not a dumb man. Give him credit for that. 369 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: So below the video, in the text on the go 370 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: fund me update, he admits offhandedly that the federal government 371 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: won't be able to take donations quote anytime soon. Notice 372 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: in the video he says, the Democrats you just wouldn't 373 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: spend on the Yeah, Caflage Braggs quote are highly experienced. 374 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: Team is highly confident that we can complete significant segments 375 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: of the wall and less time for less money than 376 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: the federal government. So he opened a new site, We 377 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: Build the Wall, where he solicits donations for We Build 378 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: the Wall, Inc. The idea he very much puts across 379 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: on the go fund Me page is that they're just 380 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: raising the funds in a different area because they can't 381 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: donate directly to the government anymore, and that was part 382 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: of the original promise. Now, the way this became framed 383 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: in news reports was that go fund Me was refunding 384 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: all of the donations. That's not what's happening. They are 385 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: giving people until April to opt in and transfer their 386 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: donations to We Build the Wall in. So you do 387 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: have to opt in in order to transfer the donations, 388 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: but it is not a straight refund. So here's how 389 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: We Build the Wall, Inc. Describes their mission quote, Our 390 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: mission is to unite private citizens that share a common 391 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: belief in providing national security for our souven border through 392 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: the construction, administration, and maintenance of physical barriers inhibiting a 393 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: legal entry into the United States, and interpreting the purpose 394 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: of the corporation. The Board of Directors and members of 395 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: the Advisory Board will consider the impact of a prose 396 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: structure on a selected sites and environment, and construct effective 397 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: barriers primarily designed to prevent illegal access to the United States. 398 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: We will focus on building portions of the US Southern 399 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: Border Wall and managed support operations required four and the 400 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: processes associated with the design, engineering, construction, and maintenance of 401 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: the wall. Now, this is officially a five oh one 402 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: C four. Do you guys know anything about five oh 403 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: one C fours? I came across something interesting about the 404 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: mono legal blog I found because I didn't know much 405 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: about this either. So I'm gonna quote from this legal blog, 406 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: which is run by a nonprofit legal aid group, and 407 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: this this article is from July sixteen. Quote. The Treasury 408 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,959 Speaker 1: Department announced to change in the regulations making it no 409 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: longer necessary for five one C four and one C 410 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: six organizations to disclose the identities of their donors on 411 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: their annual information returns to the i r S. The 412 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: concern with the elimination of the disclosure requirement, however, is 413 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: that more dark money will flow through one C four 414 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: social welfare organis stations like the n r A. Yeah. 415 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: So this same blog, which is part of a nonprofit 416 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: called the Neo Law Group published another fun article in 417 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: January of two eighteen. They called it a prediction for 418 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: nonprofits in two thousand eighteen rise of the five oh 419 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: one C four and then, to quote another exert from that, 420 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: we'll see an increase in the number of five one 421 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: C four social welfare organizations being formed and receiving contributions. 422 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: While contributions to five O one C four organizations are 423 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: not deductible as charitable contributions, this won't matter to many 424 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: donors for two major reasons. With the increase in the 425 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: standard deduction, there will be a substantial reduction in the 426 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: number of taxpayers who itemize their deductions. This means that 427 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: the vast majority, possibly nine of taxpayers, will get no 428 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: tax benefits from making a charitable contribution to a five 429 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: O one C three charitable organization. The Tax Cuts and 430 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: Jobs Act did not eliminate the charitable contribution deduction, but 431 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: the act made the deduction useless for all but a 432 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: small number of taxpayers. The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center estimates 433 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: that charitable contributions will decline by about twelve point three 434 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: billion to nineteen point seven billion per year as a 435 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: result of the change. Because five oh one c four 436 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: organizations can engage in unlimited lobbying and further into of 437 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 1: their social welfare purposes. And because they can use their 438 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: resources to support or oppose political candidates, they have greater 439 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: flexibility and potential power to affect social change than three organizations. 440 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: So that is the kind of organization Brian cole Fage 441 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: has founded. That's some bullshit, has some bullshit, Mark smart guy. 442 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: Go fund me has confirmed that so far of the 443 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: Wall's original donors have responded and of those have opted 444 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: in rolling their money into this new venture, we Build 445 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: the Wall, Inc. But is he going to keep that? 446 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: Seems like not the way It's not the way it's 447 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: been presented. It seems like Brian went from go fund me, 448 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: a platform that's very tries to be pretty open about 449 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: how the money that gets raised on it gets spent 450 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: in a platform would have held him accountable to a 451 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: platform to where he is completely unaccountable for how the 452 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: money is spent, and both in the mission statement and 453 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: in the legal operation about five oh one c four. 454 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: He could use that money to build a wall, or 455 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: you could justify, well, I'm going to spend it putting 456 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,719 Speaker 1: in donations to political candidates will help the wall get mad, 457 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: and that's how will further the wall. As long as 458 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: it has to do with the wall. As long as 459 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: it has to do with the wall, it's going to 460 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: pay for my life as I try to get the wall. Bell. Yeah, 461 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: of course that counts. That is something else. That is 462 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: something guy now, uh yeah, I mean here's this is 463 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: a start. Now. Brian still uses that twenty million dollar 464 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 1: raised number on its site. Here's one of his tweets 465 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: by Amanda Shay, who you may recognize from that Media 466 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: Matters report was also a big part of his fake 467 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: news Facebook network, and its first month, Weld the Wall 468 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: link has raised over twenty five million from five thousand 469 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 1: opt in today. Badly photoshop picture of Donald up giving 470 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: a thumbs up at the wall. Great tweet, great tweet 471 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: that they were like, it was like twenty almost that's 472 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: a fourth of a billion dollars. I saw a lot 473 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: of people say that we're on our way. They only 474 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: needed million dollars. Now we build the wall. In has 475 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: joy of Joyce released the names of their team members. 476 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: You can get some of the names on this list. 477 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: Tom tan Credo, former congressman and failed presidential candidate sheriff 478 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: David Clark, former Kansas Secretary of State, Chris Kobach, some 479 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: guy named Dustin, and Eric Prince. This is a real 480 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: I am not kidding you like that. Don't allow that. 481 00:25:53,880 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: That's yeah. We talked about Betty often of Yeah, we 482 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: just did a k episode before recording this the world. Yeah, wow, 483 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: So it's Dustin. He's just some guy. He's like right 484 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: in between Chris Kobak and Eric Prince. I think he's 485 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: he's gonna he just isn't anyone famous. He's just a 486 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: dude named Dustin. The team dust he has a last name, 487 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: doesn't called the man. They called me the old Man. 488 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen, but I am 489 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: certain we are all going to be hearing about this 490 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: fun scam slash multimillion dollar five of one C four 491 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: in the very near future and probably during the shocking. Yeah. 492 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm definitely going to tell people on our podcast come 493 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: listen to all of your episodes. But like this is 494 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: I don't give a ship. If you guys want to 495 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: report the same thing, I'll send you my notes. It's 496 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: fucked up and people should know about five years before. Yeah. Well, 497 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it, and we'll say we talked about 498 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: it in depth, but like, yeah, yeah, the news really 499 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: fell down on the job of reporting. What the funk 500 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: went Prince and David Clark with an extra at least 501 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: around eight to ten million dollars. Yeah, that's like, I mean, 502 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: that's spitting money for Eric Prince. But I still don't 503 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: want him to have it. But like it sounds made up, 504 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: Like what you're describing is like but that's like some 505 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: someone would make that up to say like, oh, this 506 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: is our situation. No, no, no, it's just reality. This 507 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: is just reality. Dang, fun on the bone. I haven't 508 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: waiting for you to to uh be Like, by the way, 509 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: he was never even like in the Middle he was 510 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: in the military. He got horribly injured in Iraq. I 511 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: do think he's kind of fudging a little bit when 512 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: he says it's a capital C combat injury. But that's debatable. 513 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: It's not debatable that it was a horrific horrific But again, 514 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: well he was going to battle with his abs at 515 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: the gym. Ye, the battle with his abs at the gym. 516 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to I'm not. Also, no, he's a 517 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: legitimate like guy who went to war and was horribly injured. 518 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 1: Nothing about that I've ever read seems exaggerated. It's probably 519 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: an asshole before the war too. Just I mean maybe 520 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 1: not traumatic brain injuries realities, And it's hard to imagine 521 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: getting hit by a rocket at that range and not 522 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: having a traumatic brain injury. And it can change people's 523 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: personalities dramatically. All right, Well that's a slightly kinder push. 524 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: On a fun note, I read a neat article recently 525 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: about a guy named Doctor Rapp who was an elderly 526 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: white neuro doctor like brain doctor, who had a series 527 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: of minor strokes and started rhyming things and then started 528 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: hanging out and like a chunk of Los Angeles where 529 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: there was like nightly rap battles and just became like 530 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: a fixture of the rap scene in l A for 531 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: years and it was like like professional rap art us 532 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: and stuff, and was like everybody loved him. He was 533 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: just he was Dr Rapp with two piece being made. No, 534 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: but there's like a documentary that that talks about it 535 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: and stuff. It's amazing. Yeah, it's really call himself doctor Stroke. 536 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: Well pretty good too, Yeah, I mean doctor Strokes definitely 537 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: cooler sounding Yeah, yeah, you know, but then again, Dr 538 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: Rablets you know what he does mean a doctor and 539 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: he's very descriptive. Yeah, good times. Wow, this has been fascinating. 540 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm very upset that you said, Eric princess name get 541 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: you get a little little rage spike every down and 542 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: that motherfucker comes into something adrenaline rush. Yeah. Well live 543 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: doodled this entire page. There's not an inch left. Then, 544 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: I think it's time for y'all to plug your plugables. 545 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: You can check us out at Patreon dot com, slash 546 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: some more news. That's where we are, and on other 547 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: places like other places like the Twitter, Twitter, same name, YouTube, 548 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: same name. 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We also have cups uh stickers 559 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: we sell uh. I always throw a joke in about 560 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: my place of my fried right now. We don't sell 561 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: peace of mind. It's unattainable at any christ my friend. Yeah, 562 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: I don't pretend I said something funny about that. I 563 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: don't have anything funny. Go to t public and buy 564 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: a thing. Behind the Bastards Public we have a website 565 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: Behind the Bastard's dot com where you can read all 566 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: the sources for this super fun episode. You can find 567 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: me on Twitter at I right. Oh yeah, I already 568 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: plug the funcket Twitter podcast. Who whoa? That was the 569 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: end of the episode. That, yeah, things really go off 570 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: the rails and stuff. It's gonna do it. H m